Re: Centering chorus between even verses
\concat is your friend. It's also my friend. Am 18.11.2008 um 16:36 schrieb Dominic Neumann: There is only the definition of leftbrace and rightbrace but these are not used in any place. So they don´t show up. I´ve tried to add \rightbrace after \dropLyrics which works quite good, but has one fundamental problem: The brace uses one note as a syllable would. Maybe someon else has a helping idea ... 2008/11/18, james bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is it just me, or does the brace not show up? 2008/11/18 Marek Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe this snippet is what you are looking for: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=503 -- Marek Klein http://gregoriana.sk 2008/11/18 Cordilow [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sometimes it's desirable to have the chorus begin on the same system as the end of the rest of the song. I have a situation where I need to do this. Unfortunately, there are an even number of stacked lyric verses (or whatever you call them). I'd rather have the chorus centered between the two verses in height, rather than having looking like a continuation of one of the verses. Is this possible? I'm trying to mimic what I see printed. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Centering-chorus-between-even-verses- tp20554992p20554992.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: creating a centred column of markups
does this work for you: \markup { \fill-line { \left-column { \line {roses are red} \line {violets are blue} \line {honey is sweet} \line {and so is sugar} } } Am 26.11.2008 um 15:43 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: [Lilypond 2.11.64] Hi all, I need a centred column of (left-aligned) markups — it's a poem that I want floating in the centre of the leading page of a choral score. I know there have been a lot of changes recently, e.g. the thread http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-08/ msg00573.html. I've looked through the docs and the LSR, but can't find a simple example showing how this can be done. What's the final verdict on how to accomplish this? Thanks, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: creating a centred column of markups
Am 26.11.2008 um 16:42 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi James, does this work for you Not as an example of great poetry… ;-) I don't know. That poem is one of my favorites. It's full of surprise and whimsy. It's cute and clever, it gets its point across. I've read a lot of much worse poetry in my time. p.s. Out of curiosity, I'd still be interested in how to accomplish this with \markuplines as opposed to \markup — anyone? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multiple right-aligned lines in composer field
If you insist on using 2.10, then you need to use \right-align in addition to \column http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Overview-of- text-markup-commands#Overview-of-text-markup-commands Am 27.11.2008 um 19:49 schrieb Marius Andersen: I am using LilyPond 2.10.33 to arrange a few Radiohead tunes, so in the composer field I want to write the following long text which spans two lines: Words and Music by Thomas Yorke, Jonathan Greenwood, Edward O'Brien, Philip Selway and Colin Greenwood The composer field is right-aligned, and so I want both of these two lines to be right-aligned, too. However, if using \column, the second line gets left-aligned with reference to the first: composer = \markup \column { Words and Music by Thomas Yorke, Jonathan Greenwood, Edward O'Brien, Philip Selway and Colin Greenwood } } yielding Words and Music by Thomas Yorke, Jonathan Greenwood, Edward O'Brien, Philip Selway and Colin Greenwood And using center-aligned doesn't cut it, either: composer = \markup \center-align { Words and Music by Thomas Yorke, Jonathan Greenwood, Edward O'Brien, Philip Selway and Colin Greenwood } } yielding Words and Music by Thomas Yorke, Jonathan Greenwood, Edward O'Brien, Philip Selway and Colin Greenwood I notice in the Notation Reference for LilyPond 2.11 that a new command, \right-column, is available, which would probably accomplish what I want. However, I'm stuck with 2.10. How do I get the alignment I want? _ Alt i ett. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: pianist's needs
Am 28.11.2008 um 20:28 schrieb Tim MacEachern: I like the thrust of your notation software. As a pianist, I'd like to make a comment on what I would like to see. Although the traditional method of marking accidentals works, it can be time-consuming to figure out whether a note is to be played as an accidental and this is often time a pianist does not have. I'd like to have my music all colour coded: naturals should be in black, sharps in some other colour, perhaps red, and flats in maybe green (double sharps and flats are rare and could be done in black or a different colour). Then I would not have to figure things out. This colour coding could be added to normal notation without changing the traditional aspects. As an alternative to colour coding, it might be possible for the note heads to be different shapes for accidentals. These differences might be too small to notice at pace though. in contrast with other notation programs I've used, that's quite simple with lilypond. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
wrong link in AU 2.11.64
I don't know if it's true in other versions, but in Application Usage, 1.2.2 Requirements, the link to fontconfig points to http:// www.freetype.org, but it should probably point to http:// fontconfig.org/ Unless there is a fontconfig at freetype.org that I just didn't see. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \partial problem?
Am 02.12.2008 um 01:35 schrieb Jay Hamilton: Hello- I'm using 2.10 on windoze And I figured out a solution but not sure that it's the only or best one. Problem, I'm setting/arranging a sonata for a duet. The first movement begins on the beat the 2nd movement begins with a \partial 8 The third movement begins on the beat. I checked the docs for 2.10 under repeats and partials and there's no information on how to deal with the end of the 2nd movement and the beginning of the 3rd, for my case. I ended up using a skip8 at the end before repeat of the 2nd movement. Is this the best way to do this? I don't want to get into book or such and prefer for my students to just flow from one movement to the next. If this is 'the' way to deal with such a problem something (and perhaps it is in the new docs) should be mentioned or explained as it took me a while to figure out what was wrong. You could always have an invisible time signature at the last (incomplete) measure of the second movement. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
convert-ly osx 10.4
I remember it being discussed, but I didn't do it at the time. What do I need to change so convert-ly knows where to find python 2.6? I haven't been keeping up with all the updates, but with 2.12 being released soon, I figured I'd start. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: convert-ly osx 10.4
Am 03.12.2008 um 11:34 schrieb Graham Percival: On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 11:24:42AM +0100, james wrote: I remember it being discussed, but I didn't do it at the time. What do I need to change so convert-ly knows where to find python 2.6? I haven't been keeping up with all the updates, but with 2.12 being released soon, I figured I'd start. Edit the file; change #!/usr/bin/python to #!/usr/bin/env python So basically, I'm just making it so the computer doesn't find python / usr/bin? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: convert-ly osx 10.4
Am 03.12.2008 um 11:34 schrieb Graham Percival: On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 11:24:42AM +0100, james wrote: I remember it being discussed, but I didn't do it at the time. What do I need to change so convert-ly knows where to find python 2.6? I haven't been keeping up with all the updates, but with 2.12 being released soon, I figured I'd start. Edit the file; change #!/usr/bin/python to #!/usr/bin/env python Oh, I just realised, I need to change the first line of convert-ly. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
vertical spacing question
I have a question about vertical spacing between systems of a single score inside a book. how do I access page0limit-inter-system-space inside a \layout block? I want those settings only for a single score. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: vertical spacing question
Am 03.12.2008 um 22:41 schrieb Neil Puttock: Hi James, 2008/12/3 james [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have a question about vertical spacing between systems of a single score inside a book. how do I access page0limit-inter-system-space inside a \layout block? I want those settings only for a single score. I think you'll have to use \bookpart, since page-limit-inter-system-space won't have any effect inside \layout. I'm sorry, \bookpart is new to me, and I don't find it when I search for it in the one big page option. Where can I learn more about this? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
font switching help
I'm not understanding how font switching in a \markup block works. I thought that I could just do \markup \override #'(fontname . #'Courier) {test} and it would work, but it doesn't. Is there some other command that I've missed? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: font switching help
Am 04.12.2008 um 06:41 schrieb Jan van Dijk: Op Thursday 04 December 2008 00:47:52 schreef james: I'm not understanding how font switching in a \markup block works. I thought that I could just do \markup \override #'(fontname . #'Courier) {test} and it would work, but it doesn't. Is there some other command that I've missed? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user You can try this one: \override #'(font-name . Courier) I hate it when I miss a closing quotation mark. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: font switching help
Am 04.12.2008 um 06:41 schrieb Jan van Dijk: Op Thursday 04 December 2008 00:47:52 schreef james: I'm not understanding how font switching in a \markup block works. I thought that I could just do \markup \override #'(fontname . #'Courier) {test} and it would work, but it doesn't. Is there some other command that I've missed? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user You can try this one: \override #'(font-name . Courier) Ah, I see now that courier was a poor choice, because Lilypond has its own courier. I'm trying to get to a font that's just installed on the computer, Palatino, to be precise. So far, I've been unsuccessful in my attempt. I found a thread from kieren a while ago that mentions, Pango on OSX can only use Truetype fonts (including dfonts) that contain only one font variant. Unfortunately, the answer is apparently in a regression test document, font-family-override.ly and I don't know where to find input/regression (which is where I assume from the documentation this file would live). I'm on MacOSX 10.4. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: font switching help
Am 04.12.2008 um 01:02 schrieb Neil Puttock: Hi James, 2008/12/3 james [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm not understanding how font switching in a \markup block works. I thought that I could just do \markup \override #'(fontname . #'Courier) {test} and it would work, but it doesn't. Is there some other command that I've missed? Have a look at this section: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/ Fonts#Single-entry-fonts Also, in the interest of being completely explicit, I took the palatino installed by MacTeX, converted it with fontforge to a macintosh acceptable font, and installed it with the default font manager, fontbook. It's available to every other application. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: font switching help
I did. I have the list of all the fonts. Well, I have the directories that the available fonts are in. If that actually listed font names accepted, it would be perfect! Is there another option to do this? Am 04.12.2008 um 12:01 schrieb Mats Bengtsson: Did you read http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/ Fonts#Fonts-explained In particular, it explains how to obtain a list over all fonts on your system that are available to LilyPond. /Mats james wrote: Am 04.12.2008 um 06:41 schrieb Jan van Dijk: Op Thursday 04 December 2008 00:47:52 schreef james: I'm not understanding how font switching in a \markup block works. I thought that I could just do \markup \override #'(fontname . #'Courier) {test} and it would work, but it doesn't. Is there some other command that I've missed? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user You can try this one: \override #'(font-name . Courier) Ah, I see now that courier was a poor choice, because Lilypond has its own courier. I'm trying to get to a font that's just installed on the computer, Palatino, to be precise. So far, I've been unsuccessful in my attempt. I found a thread from kieren a while ago that mentions, Pango on OSX can only use Truetype fonts (including dfonts) that contain only one font variant. Unfortunately, the answer is apparently in a regression test document, font-family-override.ly and I don't know where to find input/regression (which is where I assume from the documentation this file would live). I'm on MacOSX 10.4. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing School of Electrical Engineering Royal Institute of Technology (KTH) SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: font switching help
Well, to be completely explicit, it lists the fonts that lilypond installs by name, and then the directories for the system fonts. I just don't know what name to call the system fonts by. I've tried the file name and the name that shows up in fontbook, but nothing so far works. Am 04.12.2008 um 12:01 schrieb Mats Bengtsson: Did you read http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/ Fonts#Fonts-explained In particular, it explains how to obtain a list over all fonts on your system that are available to LilyPond. /Mats james wrote: Am 04.12.2008 um 06:41 schrieb Jan van Dijk: Op Thursday 04 December 2008 00:47:52 schreef james: I'm not understanding how font switching in a \markup block works. I thought that I could just do \markup \override #'(fontname . #'Courier) {test} and it would work, but it doesn't. Is there some other command that I've missed? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user You can try this one: \override #'(font-name . Courier) Ah, I see now that courier was a poor choice, because Lilypond has its own courier. I'm trying to get to a font that's just installed on the computer, Palatino, to be precise. So far, I've been unsuccessful in my attempt. I found a thread from kieren a while ago that mentions, Pango on OSX can only use Truetype fonts (including dfonts) that contain only one font variant. Unfortunately, the answer is apparently in a regression test document, font-family-override.ly and I don't know where to find input/regression (which is where I assume from the documentation this file would live). I'm on MacOSX 10.4. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing School of Electrical Engineering Royal Institute of Technology (KTH) SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: font switching help
Oops, I looked more closely at the list, and it does name all the system fonts. I just don't see palatino in the list. Am 04.12.2008 um 12:01 schrieb Mats Bengtsson: Did you read http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/ Fonts#Fonts-explained In particular, it explains how to obtain a list over all fonts on your system that are available to LilyPond. /Mats james wrote: Am 04.12.2008 um 06:41 schrieb Jan van Dijk: Op Thursday 04 December 2008 00:47:52 schreef james: I'm not understanding how font switching in a \markup block works. I thought that I could just do \markup \override #'(fontname . #'Courier) {test} and it would work, but it doesn't. Is there some other command that I've missed? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user You can try this one: \override #'(font-name . Courier) Ah, I see now that courier was a poor choice, because Lilypond has its own courier. I'm trying to get to a font that's just installed on the computer, Palatino, to be precise. So far, I've been unsuccessful in my attempt. I found a thread from kieren a while ago that mentions, Pango on OSX can only use Truetype fonts (including dfonts) that contain only one font variant. Unfortunately, the answer is apparently in a regression test document, font-family-override.ly and I don't know where to find input/regression (which is where I assume from the documentation this file would live). I'm on MacOSX 10.4. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing School of Electrical Engineering Royal Institute of Technology (KTH) SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: font switching help
After much searching, I found it. Fontbook installs user-installed fonts to a directory that isn't indexed by fontconfig ~/Library/ Fonts. After I realised that, I knew to tell fontbook to install my fonts system-wide, apparently, osx doesn't use ~/.fonts/ which fontconfig does index. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
breakbefore help
I wanted to have a title page before the music begins. I assumed I'd set up my title page, have breakbefore=##t in my \header, and have my title page on the first page, the header information on the second page. I see that is not the case. Whent does breakbefore work? The documentation mentions it, but it isn't included in the example that shows the usage of header titles. I made a minimal snippet to see, but I can't figure it out. \version 2.11.65 \header { title = title breakbefore = ##t } \markup { page one } \pageBreak \relative c' {\time 5/4 c d e f g a g f e } \markup { page two } \pageBreak \markup { page three } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: breakbefore help
Am 04.12.2008 um 18:24 schrieb -Eluze: james bailey-2 wrote: I wanted to have a title page before the music begins. I assumed I'd does this about what you're looking for? Sadly, no. My title page consisted of just markups organised on the page. I just decided to scrap the pre-designed \header and copy it in markup. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: vertical spacing question
Am 03.12.2008 um 22:59 schrieb Neil Puttock: 2008/12/3 james [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm sorry, \bookpart is new to me, and I don't find it when I search for it in the one big page option. Where can I learn more about this? It's hot off the press. :) Here are some links from the 2.11.65 docs: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/topdocs/NEWS http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Multiple- scores-in-a-book#index-_005cbookpart-1 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/File- structure#File-structure http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Page- breaking#index-_005cbookpart-3 I'm having some difficulty. So far, in a score that compiles fine without \bookpart, I only get bus errors when I try to use \bookpart. I've tried having just one \score in the \bookpart, I've tried having all of them in \bookparts. The example from eluze works, so I'm sure bookpart works, but on my score that works without \bookpart, \bookpart doesn't work. So, is there something I can do to remedy this? I thought the score was fine, I don't get any errors when processing, but when it comes to using \bookpart, I get bus error and no file. I'm using OSX 10.4 and lilypond 2.11.65 (release candidate) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
unfold and tremolo have different math
The only difference between these two is the unfold/tremolo, so why do they render differently? \version 2.11.65 \relative c' { \scaleDurations #'(2 . 3) { \repeat tremolo 9 c e g8 \repeat tremolo 3 c e fis8 \repeat unfold 4 { \repeat tremolo 3 c d fis8 } } } \relative c' { \scaleDurations #'(2 . 3) { \repeat unfold 9 c e g8 \repeat unfold 3 c e fis8 \repeat unfold 4 { \repeat unfold 3 c d fis8 } } } inline: tremolo.pnginline: unfold.png___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: unfold and tremolo have different math
How does this apply? Am 05.12.2008 um 23:52 schrieb Toine Schreurs: See section 1.4.2 Short Repeats: The \repeat tremolo syntax expects exactly two notes within the braces, and the number of repetitions must correspond to a note value that can be expressed with plain or dotted notes. Thus, \repeat tremolo 7 is valid and produces a double dotted note, but \repeat tremolo 9 is not. There are two ways to put tremolo marks on a single note. The \repeat tremolo syntax is also used here, in which case the note should not be surrounded by braces The only difference between these two is the unfold/tremolo, so why do they render differently? \version 2.11.65 \relative c' { \scaleDurations #'(2 . 3) { \repeat tremolo 9 c e g8 \repeat tremolo 3 c e fis8 \repeat unfold 4 { \repeat tremolo 3 c d fis8 } } } \relative c' { \scaleDurations #'(2 . 3) { \repeat unfold 9 c e g8 \repeat unfold 3 c e fis8 \repeat unfold 4 { \repeat unfold 3 c d fis8 } } } Toine Schreurs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: unfold and tremolo have different math
Sorry, cut off. How does this apply \times 2/3 { c8 c c} \times 2/3 {c c c} \times 2/3 {c c c} is 9 repetitions of the note c, expressed as a tremolo, this should be \repeat tremolo 9 \times 2/3 {c8} Am 05.12.2008 um 23:52 schrieb Toine Schreurs: See section 1.4.2 Short Repeats: The \repeat tremolo syntax expects exactly two notes within the braces, and the number of repetitions must correspond to a note value that can be expressed with plain or dotted notes. Thus, \repeat tremolo 7 is valid and produces a double dotted note, but \repeat tremolo 9 is not. There are two ways to put tremolo marks on a single note. The \repeat tremolo syntax is also used here, in which case the note should not be surrounded by braces The only difference between these two is the unfold/tremolo, so why do they render differently? \version 2.11.65 \relative c' { \scaleDurations #'(2 . 3) { \repeat tremolo 9 c e g8 \repeat tremolo 3 c e fis8 \repeat unfold 4 { \repeat tremolo 3 c d fis8 } } } \relative c' { \scaleDurations #'(2 . 3) { \repeat unfold 9 c e g8 \repeat unfold 3 c e fis8 \repeat unfold 4 { \repeat unfold 3 c d fis8 } } } Toine Schreurs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
suppress page number
Is it possible to not print the second page number? I don't see an option for that. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
two simultaneous marks
Hello, I'd like to have two simultaneous marks, fine under the staff and a rehearsal letter above the staff. I've found http:// lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-04/msg00492.html which suggests I split all of the music after the fine into a coda section with a \stopStaff \startStaff, and I'm not really fond of that idea. Is there another way of getting two marks to print at the same time? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
blank pages
I'm wondering how I can force lilypond to have blank pages. I see the blank-page-force, but I don't understand how to get it. For example: \paper { blank-page-force = ##t } \markup { page one } \pageBreak \pageBreak \markup { page four } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: blank pages
Ha, I found a solution, empty markups: \markup { page one } \pageBreak \markup {} \pageBreak \markup {} \pageBreak \markup { page four } Am 18.12.2008 um 13:35 schrieb james: I'm wondering how I can force lilypond to have blank pages. I see the blank-page-force, but I don't understand how to get it. For example: \paper { blank-page-force = ##t } \markup { page one } \pageBreak \pageBreak \markup { page four } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
avoid slur help
I'm having some difficulty understanding the 'avoid-slur property. This doesn't work: \version 2.11.65 \relative c'' { \override TextScript #'avoid-slur = #'inside c2*1/2( s4^\markup {\natural} d4.) c8 } In fact, it increases the space between the slur and the notes, but doesn't move the markup down. inline: avoid slur.png___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
also, lyric help
I'm trying to figure out ways to incorporate lyrics associated with different voices. I can only seem to get it to work using associatedVoice. Is this possible using \lyricsto? \version 2.11.65 instrument = \relative c' { \context Voice = NumberOne { c4 d e f } \context Voice = NumberTwo { c4 d e f } \context Voice = NumberThree { c4 d e f } \context Voice = NumberOne { c'4 b a g } \context Voice = NumberTwo { c4 b a g } \context Voice = NumberThree { c b a g } } Text = \context Lyrics { \lyricsto NumberOne { Cee Dee Eee Eff } \lyricsto NumberTwo { Doh Re Mi Fa } \lyricsto NumberThree { This is my text. } \lyricsto NumberOne { Cee Bee Ay Gee } \lyricsto NumberTwo { Doh Ti La Sol } \lyricsto NumberThree { Here is some more. } } TextTwo = \context Lyrics \lyricmode { \set associatedVoice = #NumberOne { Cee4 Dee Eee Eff } \set associatedVoice = #NumberTwo { Doh4 Re Mi Fa } \set associatedVoice = #NumberThree { This4 is my text. } \set associatedVoice = #NumberOne { Cee4 Bee Ay Gee } \set associatedVoice = #NumberTwo { Doh4 Ti La Sol } \set associatedVoice = #NumberThree { Here4 is some more. } } \score { \new Staff \instrument \Text } \score { \new Staff \instrument \TextTwo } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: avoid slur help
In the meantime, I figured out another solution: I can just do everything in markup, and set the baseline skip myself. \version 2.11.65 \relative c'' { \override TextScript #'avoid-slur = #'inside \override TextScript #'outside-staff-priority = ##f c2*1/2( s4^\markup \tiny \override #'(baseline-skip . 1) { \center-column {\musicglyph #accidentals.natural \musicglyph #scripts.turn } }d4.) c8 } Am 26.12.2008 um 21:46 schrieb James E. Bailey: Neil, thanks for the help, now I guess I move on to the next part of this problem: \version 2.11.65 \relative c'' { \override TextScript #'avoid-slur = #'inside \override Script #'avoid-slur = #'inside \override TextScript #'script-priority = #-100 \override TextScript #'outside-staff-priority = ##f c2*1/2( s4^\markup \center-column {\natural}^\turn d4.) c8 } And it's so close, too. Perhaps Graham can point me in the direction of the appropriate section of the documentation. It would be very helpful, and most appreciated.avoid slur.png Am 26.12.2008 um 17:57 schrieb Graham Percival: On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 03:50:46PM +0100, Eyolf ?strem wrote: On 26.12.2008 (15:06), Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: If so then I'd just use d!4. instead. No, it was common practice to put accidentals above notes in older times. Sometimes these were meant to be optional, sometimes they were cautinary accidentals. In any case, if you try to be close to the source, you should write it above the note and not as d!4. Slight correction: it is customary in modern editions to put editorial accidentals above the note. They are not optional, but frequently left to the performer to apply, according to more or less strict rules (see Musica ficta in the docs). Thanks, Eyolf. I was going to post something very sarcastic. :) No, wait -- I'm going to do that anyway. *ahem* To everybody apart from Eyolf who posted in this thread: musica ficta can be found through a see also link under NR 1.1 Accidentals, directly in NR 2.8.3 Annotational accidentals (musica ficta), or in NR appendix F index. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
\lyricsto vs. \set associatedVoice
What exactly is the difference between \lyricsto and \set associatedVoice? The documentation isn't very explicit on this point, and I've come to situation where I think I need to use \set associatedVoice because the output is different from the \lyricsto output. The important issue here is that using \set associatedVoice it works, and using \lyricsto it does not. I think it might be helpful to point out at least this one difference between the two. Also, if I try to put the two staves in the same \score block, I get a segmentation fault. \version 2.11.65 instrument = \relative c' { \context Voice = NumberOne { c4 } \context Voice = NumberTwo { d4 } \context Voice = NumberOne { e4 } \context Voice = NumberTwo { f4 } } Text = \context Lyrics { \lyricsto NumberOne { Cee } \lyricsto NumberTwo { Ray } \lyricsto NumberOne { Eee } \lyricsto NumberTwo { Fa } } TextTwo = \context Lyrics \lyricmode { \set associatedVoice = #NumberOne { Cee4 } \set associatedVoice = #NumberTwo { Ray4 } \set associatedVoice = #NumberOne { Eee4 } \set associatedVoice = #NumberTwo { Fa4 } } \score { \new Staff \instrument \Text } \score { \new Staff \instrument \TextTwo } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
emacs midi support
I just noticed that the midi and midi all commands don't correctly escape paths on OSX. I think this is similar to the previous emacs mode not escaping paths. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-09/msg00301.html ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Error in footnote documentation
Hello, On 29 February 2012 21:25, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote: In the NR at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/creating-footnotes#automatic-footnotes, the documentation on automatic footnotes says (asterisks are mine) The command \footnote must come *before* the grob that the footnote is being attached to. At http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/creating-footnotes#manual-footnotes, it states Like automatic footnotes, manual \footnote commands must come *after* the grob that the footnote is annotating, which conflicts with the earlier statement. http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2367 Thanks -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: templates for writing mysicological book
Hello, On 4 March 2012 10:07, vedran.vu...@gnulinuxcentar.org wrote: Hello, ... Do you know is Lilypond plugin for OpenOffice updated regularly. I could not find decently new versions for Libre Office. You mean this: http://ooolilypond.sourceforge.net/ ? I don't think so. I'll cc the development list to see if anyone has any comment or suggestions. -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LSR updates: was: polychords: a working solution
Phil, On 4 March 2012 18:30, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com To: David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com Cc: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 11:14 PM Subject: Re: LSR updates: was: polychords: a working solution ... warning: MIDI channel wrapped around warning: remapping modulo 16 I never saw them before during my testings. And I can't appraise them. LIAR! http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2011-06/msg00833.html ;) I think if look in the Archives you might find the others too. -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \cadenzaOff and accidentals
Hello, On 5 March 2012 15:20, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Neil Thornock neilthorn...@gmail.com writes: In my mind, the real bug is that \cadenzaOff does not seem to turn the cadenza off immediately, but rather one measure later. I'm not sure why it behaves as it does. It resets timing to normal, and normal does not mean the end of a measure. Normal from what perspective? Where it left off before \cadenzaOn or simply that it starts back at '0' immediately \cadenzaOff I'm wondering if we need something (a sentence of two) in the NR to avoid what is obviously something that does confuse people. Regards -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Vertical Spacing - A Newbie Question
Hello, On 5 March 2012 17:57, Robert Thompson robert_thomp...@xplornet.ca wrote: I've used Lilypond a few times and been generally impressed. However, there is one thing I cannot figure out: how do I leave a vertical blank space between lines of music? For example, if I'm transcribing a chart that has a D.S. al coda, I'd like an inch or so of space between the main chart and the coda. This seems like such an obvious requirement, and I apologize if my befuddled brain hasn't recognized it in any of the documentation. The way I do it is to create a separate \score { } for my main piece and for my coda. Then you can use 'score-system-spacing' http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing-_005cpaper-variables Something like \version 2.14.2 musicMain= { a b c d ... } musicCoda = { e f g h ...} \score { \musicMain } \score { \musicCoda } \paper { score-system-spacing #'basic-distance = #20 } Then I also use ragged-last-bottom in my \paper variable as set to #t else that interferes with the overall gap I want by 'pulling' the coda to the bottom regardless. That works for me. This also indents the coda as it is a new \score, by default but if you don't want that you can just add indent = 0\mm to your \paper (I think, I haven't tried that specifically but I think it will work). Anyway, I hope you get the idea. -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: The LilyPond Report #24 has been released
Hello, On 5 March 2012 18:20, Christophe Poncy c...@canaxis.org wrote: More broadly, my feeling is that GNU hackers should use the Wikimedia projects, wikibooks for the manuals for example... Oh yuk no. How do I view a 'wikibook' offline *easily*? PDF is nice, searchable, indexable. How do we simply get all our examples into a wiki? At the moment we use lilypond to create its own examples in the doc, with a wiki we'd have to what cut and paste all the examples in as pngs? What happens when we change our spacing or some other aspect of output which would then require all the examples to be regenerated and put in the wiki. Reg tests anyone? Also while wikis are often seen as 'democratic' part of what makes our manuals good (even if I do say so myself as a doc editor) is that we have a pretty good and strict doc review process. -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: difficulty filling the whole page
Hello, On 7 March 2012 10:26, Jean-Alexis Montignies j...@montignies.info wrote: Hi there, I've written a score and after playing with spacing, and margins I made it a one page score. But at the end of the page, there is about 20 mm left. If I increase the top margin to 1mm (it's 0 for now as is bottom margin), lilypond add a second page, though obviously from the human perspective there is still plenty of room :) Any clue? I'd suggest generally that you get into the habit of setting some \paper { } variables for all your scores. For example I always use (among other specific settings) \paper { indent = 10\mm left-margin = 15\mm right-margin = 15\mm bottom-margin = 15\mm top-margin = 10\mm line-length = 180\mm ragged-last-bottom = ##f } which suits my needs for A4 paper. So you could then play about with ragged-last-bottom and bottom-margin. Hope this helps. James -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: difficulty filling the whole page
hello, On 7 March 2012 11:17, Jean-Alexis Montignies j...@montignies.info wrote: On 7 mars 2012, at 12:10, Hans Aikema wrote: On 7-3-2012 11:26, Jean-Alexis Montignies wrote: Hi there, I've written a score and after playing with spacing, and margins I made it a one page score. But at the end of the page, there is about 20 mm left. If I increase the top margin to 1mm (it's 0 for now as is bottom margin), lilypond add a second page, though obviously from the human perspective there is still plenty of room :) Any clue? Also which version of LilyPond are you using? -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Status of Lilypond for MacOS X
hello, On 10 March 2012 10:38, Hans Aikema hans.aik...@aikebah.net wrote: On 9-3-2012 18:39, Graham Percival wrote: On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 03:00:33PM +, Colin Hall wrote: There is a known critical issue with Lilypond for MacOS X version 2.14.2. I'd use different terminology. The lilypond osx download page clearly says MacOS X 10.7 Lion is not yet supported.. As such, any failure to run on 10.7 is not a bug. - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user . Graham, I tend to agree, but cannot resist to mention that your claim is incorrect. It's not clearly noted on all download-page (some don't even mention 10.4 as the lowest supported version). The remark is missing afaics on the pages in Czech (cs), Hungarian (hu), Japanese (ja), Dutch (nl) and Chinese (zh) download pages. Not all musicians speak English/French/German/Spanish/Italian. (Landing on the Dutch page by default made me crawl the other languages). That is unfortunate, however 'most' (not all) of the non-english pages are 'out of date' compared to the English one. It's not that there is any bias, it's that if no one offers to translate these pages then those of us who do doc and don't speak these languages cannot make any changes to the files. I am not sure therefore what you expect to happen. Any suggestions welcome. Regards -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Status of Lilypond for MacOS X
Hello again, On 10 March 2012 10:38, Hans Aikema hans.aik...@aikebah.net wrote: On 9-3-2012 18:39, Graham Percival wrote: On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 03:00:33PM +, Colin Hall wrote: There is a known critical issue with Lilypond for MacOS X version 2.14.2. I'd use different terminology. The lilypond osx download page clearly says MacOS X 10.7 Lion is not yet supported.. As such, any failure to run on 10.7 is not a bug. - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user . Graham, I tend to agree, but cannot resist to mention that your claim is incorrect. It's not clearly noted on all download-page (some don't even mention 10.4 as the lowest supported version). The remark is missing afaics on the pages in Czech (cs), Hungarian (hu), Japanese (ja), Dutch (nl) and Chinese (zh) download pages. Not all musicians speak English/French/German/Spanish/Italian. (Landing on the Dutch page by default made me crawl the other languages). All I can do for now is http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2385 -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond 2.15.33 on Mac OSX
Hans, On 10 March 2012 13:59, Hans Aikema hans.aik...@aikebah.net wrote: On 10-3-2012 11:12, Colin Hall wrote: On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 08:50:35PM -0600, James Worlton wrote: I have downloaded and extracted Lilypond 2.15.33 on my PPC Mac 10.4.11. Everything seems to work fine. No problems here! James Worlton Thanks for the feedback, James. Cheers, Colin. Just downloaded and tested Lilypond 2.15.33 on my MBP (Core i5; early 2011) Mac OS X 10.7.3 Opening up the app and typesetting the trial music works fine. Is hyperlinking from the noteheads of the PDF (in Mac OS X's Preview app) to the lilypond editor supposed to work out-of-the-box? (It's not, but it might be that it never worked, it's just me trying for the first time) Add \pointAndClickOn to your LilyPond file and recompile. I haven't used MacOSX for a while so cannot remember if it is out of the box or not. -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tupletFullLength clashes with barline
Hello, On 10 March 2012 08:18, Peter O'Doherty m...@peterodoherty.net wrote: Hi list, tupletFullLength = ##t causes the right hand part of the tuplet bracket to clash with the barline. This only happens with a barline at the end of a line. Is there a way to avoid this? Tiny example and the version you are using might help us. Thanks -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond
Hello, On 13 March 2012 12:02, Rodolfo Zitellini xhero...@gmail.com wrote: ... If you are used to finale/sibelius, this is indeed shocking as the first times you use lilypond it is very difficult to correlate your textual input to what will end up in the pdf. It took me some deal of time to stop finding the layout as magical. I've never stopped thinking it's like 'magic' =8 ) - I've been using LP for the last 2 years. Oh if you've ever had to transcribe a piece of 'real' music (by real I mean an old dog-eared printed complete score that's in the 'wrong' pitch for your instrument) I cannot believe that typing letters on a keyboard is anything but *significantly* faster than dragging and dropping graphics on a page, especially if they are peppered with slurs, dynamics and articulations. -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: localized horizontal spacing
Hello, On 13 March 2012 17:15, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote: 2012/3/13 Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com: { \override Score.SpacingSpanner #'base-shortest-duration = #(ly:make-moment 1 2) b4 b b b \newSpacingSection \override Score.SpacingSpanner #'base-shortest-duration = #(ly:make-moment 1 16) b4 b b b \newSpacingSection \override Score.SpacingSpanner #'base-shortest-duration = #(ly:make-moment 1 2) b4 b b b } And the default is #(ly:make-moment 3 16) BTW What would one use if (for instance) one wanted all notes to touch or rather be exactly touching the edge of the 'note column' of the previous note so if I were to write a32 a a a a a a a a a a a a (assume no bar lines) all the notes would be touching? -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: localized horizontal spacing
Hello, On 13 March 2012 17:39, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote: 2012/3/13 James pkx1...@gmail.com: Hello, What would one use if (for instance) one wanted all notes to touch or rather be exactly touching the edge of the 'note column' of the previous note so if I were to write a32 a a a a a a a a a a a a (assume no bar lines) all the notes would be touching? \override Score.SpacingSpanner #'packed-spacing = ##t Gracias -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Old style numerals for page numbers
Hello On 13 March 2012 15:40, Benjamin Bloomfield bhb...@gmail.com wrote: I tried sending this earlier, but didn't receive it myself, so I am trying again. For some reason this email ended up marked as 'spam' for me. So maybe that was the reason? -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.0.4
Hello, 2012/3/14 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Wilbert Berendsen wbs...@xs4all.nl wrote: Please let me know the things you miss most! Note that F2 is only (roughly) one year old and really written from scratch, the first commit is of Nov 11, 2012. I intend to keep developing and adding new features. I think the current technical infrastructure and code setup is very nice. I miss: https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/issues This is where you need to put this stuff, so Wilbert can keep track of it. -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Add more space between arbitrary groups of notes
Hello, On 14 March 2012 08:07, Svetlana eurid...@yandex.ru wrote: Hello all, I have three wishes that I can't accomplish: 1) I'd like be able to add more space between notes where s1 doesn't help. See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-03/msg00379.html This might help. I cannot help you with the others :/ -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?
Hello, On 14 March 2012 23:35, Father Gordon Gilbert fatherg...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Wilbert, I had figured it was something like that, but I am too far from geeky to be able to implement something that complicated. I certainly do make use of it, though! I have another problem now, however. When I upgraded Lily to the latest (2.15.33) and began to use Fresco again to work on a new file, the whole thing seems broken! Not sure what I did, but in the compliation panel, all I get is the following: Starting lilypond-windows.exe. [file.ly]... Could not start lilypond-windows.exe. Please check path and permissions. I didn't *actively* do anything to the path or permissions, and I even tried uninstalling and reinstalling both Frescobaldi and LilyPond, with no improvement. Where to I look to find the problem, and how can I fix it? Holy Week is coming up, and I have some things I need to do! Help! It almost certainly won't be Frescobaldi it'll be where/how windows has installed your later version of LilyPond. Install LilyPond as normal and then open a 'cmd' prompt (if you don't know what that is then click on the start menu in the task bar and either look for the 'run' menu option and type cmd or you can search for 'cmd.exe' and open it. Then from that command prompt type path This will list all the 'paths' to the applications you have installed. It'll be a long list, and you should (hopefully) see something like C;/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin; in there (I may have got that slightly inaccurate - I am doing this from memory) but you will see 'LilyPond' somewhere. If you don't see it then this is the problem and you will need to add it manually. I am about to leave for work, but if you still have problems or no one else answers I'll be around in an hour or so. -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?
Father Gilbert On 14 March 2012 23:35, Father Gordon Gilbert fatherg...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Wilbert, I had figured it was something like that, but I am too far from geeky to be able to implement something that complicated. I certainly do make use of it, though! I have another problem now, however. When I upgraded Lily to the latest (2.15.33) and began to use Fresco again to work on a new file, the whole thing seems broken! Not sure what I did, but in the compliation panel, all I get is the following: Starting lilypond-windows.exe. [file.ly]... Could not start lilypond-windows.exe. Please check path and permissions. I didn't *actively* do anything to the path or permissions, and I even tried uninstalling and reinstalling both Frescobaldi and LilyPond, with no improvement. Where to I look to find the problem, and how can I fix it? Holy Week is coming up, and I have some things I need to do! Help! Thanks for a fantastic program. I have realised that *if* you do not have LilyPond in your 'path' (see my last email to you) and you need to add it, the instructions will be slightly different depending if you are running Windows XP or Windows 7 - as things like file names and where settings are have changed. What I would do because I forgot we had added this to our instructions on teh website is to look here http://lilypond.org/windows.html See 'Running on the command line' section. This tells you how to check and configure. I do not know your technical ability (so sorry if I am patronizing you - many of us on these lists take it for granted users know how to configure these settings in Windows) to understand how to set a PATH etc. and as I know you have a very limited internet connection so are not permanently online, can you let me know if my last response is helpful and if not which version of Windows you are using and I can give you more detailed instructions in 'one go' -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Combine \default rehearsal mark with another mark
Hello, 2012/3/15 Siska Ádám sa...@sadam.hu: Dear List, I'd like to put two rehearsal marks over the same barline. However, this gives an error: \mark \markup{ \center-align{ \line{ \default } \line{ 8 } } } s4*8 The error is: 'error: syntax error, unexpected \default' I also tried to access the value of \default, however, I couldn't find out how to do that. The documentation says: 'The value to use is stored in the property rehearsalMark', however, I didn't find any property like RehearsalMark.rehearsalMark nor Score.rehearsalMark, or at least I didn't find out how to access these in a \markup block. Do you have any suggestion for this? http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Search?q=rehearsal+mark -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: wrong beaming
Hello, On 15 March 2012 02:45, luis jure l...@internet.com.uy wrote: hello list, i have a problem with beaming when combining a sixteenth notes triplet with straight 16ths. without any kind of tweaks, the following code produces the output in the attached image: \relative c' { \time 2/4 c16 c \times 2/3 { c8 c16 } \times 2/3 { c8 c16 } c16 c } as you see, lilypond behaves differently if the triplet is in the first part of the quarter note, or in the second. in both cases the beaming is wrong. i guess this is related to issues that have been discussed before. i tried both the latest stable (2.14.2) and the latest unstable or development version. the results are similar. This actually worked in 2.12.3 So I have opened http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2408 is there a simple tweak to get the correct output? Use manual beaming? -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tabloid papersize
Hello, On 29 February 2012 18:05, Neil Thornock neilthorn...@gmail.com wrote: While we're at it, it would be nice to enable ledger (17x11) -- noted in paper.scm but not included for some reason. This and a few other sizes have been added and will be in the next development release - 2.15.34 (I believe). Thanks for taking the time to suggest this. -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: override Beam #'color = #red not applied to all beams
Ming On 16 March 2012 13:07, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com wrote: try to use \override Beam #'color = #red seems that not all beams are becoming red. Are you confusing 'beam' with 'flag'? I cannot compile your ly file but the PDF shows me that one voice has red stems and red beams but the non-beamed notes (the 16th notes) have black 'flags'. Does this help? -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Combining lyrics lines
Jean-Charles, On 18 March 2012 12:49, Jean-Charles Malahieude lily...@orange.fr wrote: Le 18/03/2012 12:38, James disait : Hello, On 18 March 2012 11:33, Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote: Le 17/03/2012 11:14, Reedmace Star disait : In the first line, Alice and Eve alternate strictly in singing, so their lyrics get collapsed: ALICE EVE ALICE EVE maybe that the second words are After the manual line break, Alice cuts off Eve with a bit of overlap. Their lyrics stay on different lines, which makes sense: EVE ALICE Shut up, you fool! ...and then I was like- I wished I had found it myself... Would be worth a selected snippet in NR 2.1.2 Techniques specific to lyrics, Placing lyrics vertically? http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-03/msg00508.html I don't understand this request for a 'snippet', are you saying it already exists as a snippet and you want it in the NR or that you want a new snippet created *as well*? If it is the latter, and someone can give me a 'clear' explanation of what this snippet shows (so I can write a concise texidoc entry) I can arrange that, else if the snippet already exists tell me the name of it and I can add it very easily. Searching the LSR does not return it, and I think it is worth to have it in the NR. I would sort of call it a partcombine for lyrics: it often happens that a soloist shares a staff with a choir part (let's say the diva and the soprani) when they sing alternatively, or two characters like in Reedmace Star's example. The fact is that Lily place /two/ lines of lyrics when the change appears on the same system. I don't understand how Lyrics work in LilyPond or what your last paragraph means (it is meaningless to me, sorry - I play trumpet, I don't sing, so never need to read or use lyrics in a score) I was hoping that you could give me a texidoc string I could simply copy.paste into the example at http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-03/msg00508.html Then I can create a snippet from that. I can't articulate it myself. -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi
Peter, On 19 March 2012 13:50, Peter Gentry peter.gen...@sunscales.co.uk wrote: I have recently converted from jedit to Frescobaldi and like what I find. In particulr FB can accept files on a netdrive almost. The problem I find is that the fonts for headers are not found the text ends up as little boxes or parts of boxes. When looking at Netdrive files FB doesn't indicate that it is using a temporary file as it does for files on the computer. Is there a simple fix for this? Someone might be able to help (the frescobaldi developer reads these lists), but Frescobaldi is its own piece of software and is nothing to do with the LilyPond development in that regard. http://frescobaldi.org/links I have cc'd the Frescobaldi developer in case he (assuming no one else can help) can answer you. -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Fingering avoidance of accidentals depends on Fingering #'script-priority
Nick On 19 March 2012 05:19, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote: In a chord with two accidentals, if I set the fingering script-priority to -99, the fingerings still avoid both accidentals, but if I set it to -100, each fingering indication is positioned without regard to the accidental on the other note. Is this related to https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2182, or soemthing else? \relative c' { \set fingeringOrientations = #'(left) fis-4 dis-21 \override Fingering #'script-priority = #-99 fis-4 dis-2 \override Fingering #'script-priority = #-100 fis-4 dis-2 } I've updated https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2182 with this new example. -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond-book - vertical space and font questions
Svetlana 2012/3/21 Svetlana eurid...@yandex.ru: Hello all! I try to combine latex text and lilypond scores. Lot of documentation read, but there remain two issues, I can't solve. 1) Is there any way to control vertical space between systems while using lilypond-book? Maybe I have missed something but I cannot see any of the other spacing in your \paper {} block http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing-within-systems I am not saying they will/will not work but we have a known issues and warnings in teh current dev version of the Application Usage http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/usage/invoking-lilypond_002dbook --snip-- Known issues and warnings The \pageBreak command will not work within a \begin{lilypond} … \end{lilypond} environment. Many \paper block variables will also not work within a \begin{lilypond} … \end{lilypond} environment. Use \newcommand with \betweenLilyPondSystem in the preamble; \newcommand{\betweenLilyPondSystem}[1]{\vspace{36mm}\linebreak} --snip-- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Error in documentation
Hello, On 22 March 2012 19:09, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote: In the snippets documentation, the second of the coda symbols (beginning of the third stave of output) in the snippet http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/snippets/repeats#repeats-positioning-segno-and-coda-_0028with-line-break_0029 is shifted to the left and only partly visible in the snippet output. http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2428 james ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: dynamic/beam/stem/tuplet number/tuplet number collisions
Hello, On 24 March 2012 06:57, Jeffrey Trevino jeffrey.trevi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I'm rendering some dense notation, and there are lots of collisions between beams, stems, dynamics, tuplet numbers, and tuplet brackets. I'd like to be sure I'm aware of best practices with two questions: 1) What are the global actions I should take to keep this from happening upon render (I think there's something called padding for most of the grobs, according to the online documentation? Perhaps the order the things are engraved?)? Yes you can use padding, however LilyPond should do most collision avoidance out of the box. I'd also recommend making sure you are on at least 2.14.2 - the latest stable and if possible try the latest dev release (2.15.34) as there have been many improvements on layout since then. If you are using 2.12.x you'd just be making more work for yourself unnecessarily. It is possible to have both dev and stable releases installed on a system (with Windows, it is just a case of renaming the LilyPond dir that is installed in 'Programs', ditto mac (just rename the .app) and flick between the two types. You don't give any tiny examples so it is hard to say if you want to add 'padding' or not, and to what grob/glyph etc. Give us a chance to 'see' your problem. Perhaps even just a small screenshot. 2) Failing #1, what are the best ways to solve these problems by locally moving these things around via position overrides after I see my mangled output? Yes again that is possible, but really, unless you are hitting known bugs http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list It should just work(tm). To be honest, I'd say these questions are too broad o give anything other than 'possibly', 'maybe', 'it depends' or 'could do' answers, and you'd do well to give us an 'idea' of specifics - without filling the list with a hundred line .ly file. I'd say the most common question we get from beginners about 'dense' and 'colliding' things are either because of known bugs (which will need overrides and tweaks) or because of incorrect usage of multiple voices in the same staff. For example NOT using explicit voices but trying to use .. constructions or // constructions with \xxxUp \xxxDown type commands peppered all over. Sorry I cannot give you more explicit instructions, but if you find yourself having to make more and more overrides starting out, you may not as I think you are guessing, be 'thinking in LilyPondese'. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Question about missing accidentals, and banishing stems
Hello, On 26 March 2012 17:05, Robert Schmaus robert.schm...@web.de wrote: Hi Michael, the whole music is defined in a single cadenza with manual barlines in between. so, from pov of lilypond, all the music is in one bar, thus, the second ees doesn't sport an accidental. Use ees! to force the accidental ... I've added a Doc Enhancement request here http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2438 James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Self-contained Lilypond in a Dropbox folder for Windows users?
Hello, On 27 March 2012 17:38, Michael Ellis michael.f.el...@gmail.com wrote: I've been collaborating with some other members of my choral group who've decided to learn LilyPond (more converts, hooray!) to help with transcribing individual parts. For the OS X users, it was very easy to set up a folder in Dropbox that included the latest LilyPond.app bundle so I don't have to troubleshoot installation and version issues on their individual machines. Works great so far. Now I'm getting inquiries from Windows users. Is it possible to do the same thing for them, i.e. have a LilyPond Windows install self-contained in a Dropbox folder that they can just run with no other installation effort? I really want to avoid spending time figuring out why things aren't working in Vista :-( All my LilyPond files reside in a DropBox folder (if not the binary itself) - this means no matter what machine I am on (Linux/Mac/Windows) I can easily access all my files. It works well, although on a slow network connection it can, depending on the size of the .ly file and the resulting output - slow down the compilation, perhaps by a few seconds my scores rarely go more than 8 pages. Because you are creating a few temp files (.ps for instance) that then get deleted, Dropbox will still replicate the creation and then replciate the deletion. However when I am doing lots of changes you can 'pause' syncing very easily and then when you are all done and finished, just resume sync and dropbox updates the most current files. I cannot speak about Vista but Windows 7 works great. Installing LilyPond in a dropbox folder is no different to say installing it on the 'd' drive. What I am not sure of though is You *might* need to set your path (or at least check it is set properly) so that LilyPond can run http://lilypond.org/windows.html See 'running on the command line' half way down. Regards James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Self-contained Lilypond in a Dropbox folder for Windows users?
Michael, On 27 March 2012 18:08, Michael Ellis michael.f.el...@gmail.com wrote: Cheers, Mike On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:01 PM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote: I cannot speak about Vista but Windows 7 works great. Installing LilyPond in a dropbox folder is no different to say installing it on the 'd' drive. What I am not sure of though is You *might* need to set your path (or at least check it is set properly) so that LilyPond can run http://lilypond.org/windows.html See 'running on the command line' half way down. Thanks, James. That's the kind of issue that scares me. Trying to explain to someone who's got no concept of 'path' how to append to it can eat an amazing amount of time. Guess I'll just have to see how it goes ... I'm afraid that we have found cases where the windows installer simply doesn't add the path at all. I believe that if you incorporate the latests version Frescobaldi (and I would certainly recommend that as a 'front end' for Windows users) you can configure it there in the preferences. Install LilyPond Install Frescobaldi use Frescobaldi's preferences to make sure the LilyPond exe is being found, if not point to it using Frescobaldis easy-to-use windows-like-browse-to-find-me GUI and click ok. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: scores produced with lilypond
Thomas, On 28 March 2012 19:47, Thoams Griffin tgriffin94...@gmail.com wrote: A modern edition of the serenata Erminia by Alessandro Scarlatti, edited by Thomas Griffin using Lilypond, is now available from the Istituto Italian per la Storia della Musica. The score was performed on 22 October 2010 in the Galleria of the Palazzo Zevallos Stigliano, Naples, Italy. Details of this and other scores by Scarlatti produced with Lilypond can be found at http://www.ascarflatti2010.net We have two spots on the LilyPond webpage http://lilypond.org/reviews.html http://lilypond.org/productions.html Either of which, if you don't mind (and perhaps if you have a quote, and a 'title' (composer, lead something or other)) then we could use this to forward the cause by adding a link or two. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: First measure partial with only grace notes
Hello, On 29 March 2012 10:00, Silvio ARDITO silvioard...@gmail.com wrote: The first ( or better the zero ) measure contains only the following grace notes: grace { d''16-2 [e'' fis''] } I tried with \partial but I always got errors. the bad solution is: ... \time 4/4 ... \set Score.currentBarNumber = #0 s2 \afterGrace s2 { d''16-2 [e'' fis''] } | % zero measure \sd g''-5 d''-2 bes'-18 d'' bes'4. g'' d'' bes'4.. ( a''-5 es''-2 c''-116 ) | % 1 ... Please , I need an help. Then just look in the manual ;) http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/special-rhythmic-concerns#index-grace-notes-1 See known issues and warnings. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: vertical spacing between systems
Hello, On 29 March 2012 16:17, Gagi Petrovic gagig...@gmail.com wrote: Dear LilyPond users, the last few days I've been trying some vertical spacing (in v2.14.2) and somehow I can't seem to understand the mechanics of the spacing between systems as explained here. This is 2.12 documentation. Spacing has changed *significantly* with 2.14.x http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/vertical-spacing Have a read through here see if this helps. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \repeat percent {} breaking \drummode context
Hello, On 30 March 2012 17:48, Eluze elu...@gmail.com wrote: hi Uwe in the snippet you sent \new DrumStaff = main is never closed! That is just the email program processing '' as a quote. In gmail you will see '||'. This happens all the time. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \repeat percent {} breaking \drummode context
Hello, On 30 March 2012 17:05, Uwe Falke fa...@horst.in-chemnitz.de wrote: Trying to save some space and simplifying the scores, but either I am doing something wrong / odd, or there is a bug. Everything following the \repeat percent {} in the example below is set to separate staffs with clefs, i.e. nit in drummode anymore. Yep, I know my version is quite outdated but as I have not found any mentioning of such a behaviour in the web I might doing it wrong and it has nothing to do with the version. This works properly in 2.14.x and 2.15.x (see attached - this is the output from both) I'd suggest trying those versions. james attachment: Capture.PNG___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: midi 2 wave (Mac OS X)
Alberto, 2012/3/31 Alberto Simões al...@alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt: Hello, Friends Quicktime plays midi, but too quiet. I was looking for some other application that plays midi, or a way to export quality wave fro Midi. On old times, when I used linux, I used timidity++ for that. What's the current solution? http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-03/msg00030.html This was discussed a few weeks back as well. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Another tricky music situation. This time: Repeat Nightmare with alternative endings.
Hello, On 5 April 2012 15:20, Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote: Hello list, Maybe you have an opinion about this musical situation, described here: http://www.nilsgey.de/2012/04/05/nightmare-repeats/ In my eyes it should be forbidden. The real cause it that alternative endings use the same glyph as boundary as repeats: the repeat close barline. Better would be a glyph that is explicitely and only for the first/second ending bracket, but well.. we don't got that over the last few hundred years. better would be to write out in full, it's not like we need to worry about the cost of parchment is it ;) Why muck about like this in the first place? James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Another tricky music situation. This time: Repeat Nightmare with alternative endings.
Hello, On 5 April 2012 15:42, Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote: Am Thu, 5 Apr 2012 15:31:48 +0100 schrieb James pkx1...@gmail.com: Hello, On 5 April 2012 15:20, Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote: Hello list, Maybe you have an opinion about this musical situation, described here: http://www.nilsgey.de/2012/04/05/nightmare-repeats/ In my eyes it should be forbidden. The real cause it that alternative endings use the same glyph as boundary as repeats: the repeat close barline. Better would be a glyph that is explicitely and only for the first/second ending bracket, but well.. we don't got that over the last few hundred years. better would be to write out in full, it's not like we need to worry about the cost of parchment is it ;) Why muck about like this in the first place? James I is somehow my (future) Job as music theorist to think about these problems. At least I want to think about it. Writing your music down in a correct way helps the intpreter to play better and the composer to think better. There are many strange and inconsequent things in music notation. If you know them you can avoid them and make your music or score clearer. This is where Lilypond comes in because I use it to create scores :) Isn't this just the old adage, 'Just because we can, doesn't mean we should'. I cannot think what problem this is solving. or how it is adding to the music in any way at all. Otherwise you simply add a note saying to go back to repeat X instead of Y. I think your example is far too short to get the point across. Maybe there could be some piece where you start at A got Z repeat back to B got to Y repeat back to C and so on, in ever decreasing 'circles', that may be something a 'modern' composer might do. Or even me come to think of it. :) But then you'd just label your repeat bars. regards James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Rehearsal Mark Shown Above Tempo
Hello, On 6 April 2012 10:50, lesmondo lesmo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm using rehearsal marks for each section of my piece, for example Introduction' Section One etc. For the first bar, the mark appears above the tempo, how can I move to the same vertical position as the rest of the marks? Here's an example. Could you have made a tiny example (why do we need a \paper block to see this) ? http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html Anyway, here are some tweaks you can do with Rehearsal marks http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Search?q=rehearsal+mark else don't think of them as rehearsal marks but just normal \markups and use padding to move them up and down as you need. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/formatting-text#text-alignment James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: New LilyPond scores -- video editing software
Hello, On 6 April 2012 16:58, PMA peterarmstr...@aya.yale.edu wrote: Hi List. I'm planning similar YouTube entries, i.e., music performances sync'd with their score-page turns. But this will be a first for me, and I see a hefty bunch of (Linux) softwares for video editing. If any of you has a favorite among those options (or among how-to docs), I'd appreciate hearing. Also see http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=965 Not quite as slick as some methods, but anyway.. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \markup beneath a fermata?
Hello, On 6 April 2012 11:47, Father Gordon Gilbert fatherg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, In the following (last note in my bass clef), I'd like the \markup to appear *below* the \fermata, for obvious reasons. What's the best way to accomplish this? \clef F c,2._\fermata _\markup \small \italic {(Blue Bk 139)} http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/learning/outside_002dstaff-objects James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: non-standard mensural clef
Hello, On 7 April 2012 15:57, Wasil Sergejczyk szelga@gmail.com wrote: i'm trying to re-create this hymn and i've stumbled upon the clef(s) i didn't find in lilypond documentation and anywhere on the Internet. does anybody know what's this and how can i do it in lilypond? here's the scan: http://i35.fastpic.ru/big/2012/0407/b2/0d1272c45e5e8c98575c8fa1838c5ab2.png it's from Manvale choricanum ab utriusque sexus choricistis concupitum by Casoni, Giovanni Agostino (1649). I'm absolutely no expert but looks sort of petrucci to me http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/the-feta-font#petrucci-glyphs James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \cadenzaOn + accidental-style not working
Hello, On 8 April 2012 10:36, Wasil Sergejczyk szelga@gmail.com wrote: when i set \cadenzaOn, set-accidental-style has no effect. do i use it correctly? is it a bug or a feature? are there any workarounds? Remember when you set a \cadenzaOn it is like one giant *single* measure - even if you put in \bar |, until *after* cadenzaOff, so you have to manually set your Accidentals. Hope that helps. James \version 2.15.36 \include italiano.ly global = { \cadenzaOn \key do \major \autoBeamOff \pointAndClickOff \override Staff.NoteHead #'style = #'altdefault #(set-accidental-style 'forget) } melody = { \global \clef alto \transpose do do' { do re mi fa sol la sib do' sib } } \score { \new Staff { \melody } \layout { %indent = 0 \context { \Staff \remove Time_signature_engraver } \context { \Score \override BarNumber #'transparent = ##t } } thanks in advance. -- Best regards. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musicxml2ly
Hello, On 8 April 2012 17:47, Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl wrote: ... Or are many problems already known? http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list?can=2q=musicxmlsort=prioritycolspec=IDx=typey=prioritymode=gridcells=tiles There is also this recent - seemingly unfinished patch http://codereview.appspot.com/5697059/ And see http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2011-12/msg00025.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-11/msg00280.html This will give you an idea of the current issues and the effort still required. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multimeasure rests over a cadenza
Hello, On 9 April 2012 11:03, Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 9. April 2012 04:26 schrieb James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com: At Sun, 8 Apr 2012 09:39:13 -0500, David Nalesnik wrote: Hi James, Possibly the following thread will be useful to you: http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg68492.html Thanks, this is a lot closer. (By the way, it seems that mail-archive is on the wrong side of the Great Firewall of China -- not a big deal, but it did make it less convenient to access the link. Speaking just for myself, I'd prefer links to gmane or nabble archives.) It's closer -- I'm now getting bar check failures only at the ends of the two cadenzas, where I think I was getting more of them before. But, it's still failing and the multi-measure rests are drawn in the wrong place. So, a more illustrative example, using actual notes from my piece and replicating the context (one bar of cadenza, one metered bar, and another bar of cadenza). It looks to me like time advances the correct number of beats, but LP doesn't recognize that it should roll over to the next bar at that point. I'm guessing that for each cadenza + following-bar pair, where there should be two full-bar rests, only one is being drawn (probably the first one, for the cadenza) and the other one is being dropped because of the bar check failure. Then it draws the single full-bar rest in the middle of the span for /both/ bars. It doesn't help to include an explicit \bar | after the \cadenzaToMusic calls. LP output. For debugging I restored the (format...) call, which shows that the duration of both cadenzas is being calculated correctly. Hi James, the cadenzaToMusic-function _replaces_ \cadenzaOn and \cadenzaOff. If you delete these commands it works and there is no need for manual bars: Thanks Thomas, I have added this snippet to the LilyPond Snippet Repository - awaiting approval. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: System in different colors
Hello, On 10 April 2012 10:41, uunail uwena...@kabelmail.de wrote: Hi everybody Using this wonderful tool I again have a problem. I want to use different colors in a piece to illustrate that they are played by different people (and not using multiple systems). The snippet below works almost fine with only one little thing that I want to have changed: \version 2.14.2 #(set-global-staff-size 18.65) \header { title = System in different colors } \language deutsch staffVoice = \new Staff { \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \time 2/2 \key f \major \clef treble \tempo 2=78 \relative c' { \context Voice { \override Staff.Clef #'color = #red \override Staff.TimeSignature #'color = #red \override Staff.KeySignature #'color = #red \override NoteHead #'color = #red \override Staff.StaffSymbol #'color = #red \override Stem #'color = #red \override DynamicText #'color = #red \override Tie #'color = #red \override TextScript #'color = #red \override Staff.BarLine #'color = #red \override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color = #red \partial 4*3 d' b4^\markup{ \larger {Part 1}}_\f c a f4 \stopStaff } \context Voice = melodyVoi { \dynamicUp % \partial 4*3 \startStaff \revert Staff.Clef #'color \revert Staff.KeySignature #'color \revert Staff.BarLine #'color \revert Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color \revert Staff.StaffSymbol #'color \revert NoteHead #'color \revert Stem #'color \revert Tie #'color \revert DynamicText #'color c4\(_\mf h c\) \bar || f c f c f c f c f c f c f c f c f c f c f c f c } \context Voice = melodyRep { f1 R1 \bar |. \stopStaff } \context Voice = interlude { \startStaff \override Staff.VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t \override SystemStartBar #'color = #black \override Staff.StaffSymbol #'color = #red \override NoteHead #'color = #red \override Stem #'color = #red \override DynamicText #'color = #red \override Tie #'color = #red \override TextScript #'color = #red \override Accidental #'color = #red \override Rest #'color = #red \override Staff.BarLine #'color = #red \override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color = #red f4^\markup { \larger {Part 3 }} e f g c,4 r h f' g r \bar || } } } \score { \staffVoice \layout {} } \paper {} The double bar in front of part 3 is printed in red but I want to have it in black as it belongs to part 2. Can't you just use \once \override and then pick the colour you want? James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Avoiding tie/prall collision
Hello, 2012/4/11 Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net: Am 10.04.2012 08:37, schrieb Janek Warchoł: On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Helge Krusehelge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net ... Honestly, I used the 2.13 documentation. Now I downloaded the 2.14 documentation. Searching for stemDown\Up\Neutral I didn't find any hint to favor voiceOne/Two/Three. But I did not read thorough 763 pages. Which section are you referring? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/direction-and-placement It was added middle of March. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: more space between systems?
Erik, On 11 April 2012 07:19, eriksbike eriksb...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm having some trouble creating more space between systems. I have tried increasing the system-system-spacing #'minimum-distance and system-system-spacing #'padding variables. But when I compile I receive the message warning: cannot fit music on page: ragged-spacing was requested, but page was compressed and the systems are very tightly packed on the page. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Well first make sure you are on at least version 2.14.x not 2.12 as there are many significant improvements/changes to system spacing. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing-within-systems Then if this doesn't help, you'd need to give a *brief* example of the spacing code you are using. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: node head positions
Hello, On 11 April 2012 09:43, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: Am 11.04.2012 00:28, schrieb Tim Roberts: Huang wrote: Yes, I am looking for a way to highlight notes while playing MIDI. I will definitely check Frescobaldi to see how it works. I need to understand how Lily generates these notes and find out their positions. I just want to caution you about how difficult this task will be. The PDF output does contain a link for each note that tells you where, in the original LilyPond input file, that note or chord originated. It does NOT tell you the note's pitch or duration, and that information is not trivially derivable from the original source, either. There's no good way to line up the PDF with the MIDI. But there _have_ been efforts in such directions, isn't it? I recall someone having a (drum?) score doing exactly this. He used the SVG output IIRC http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-05/msg00331.html You may need to contact Mike directly. james ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Avoiding tie/prall collision
Hello, On 11 April 2012 17:53, Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net wrote: Am 11.04.2012 09:36, schrieb James: 2012/4/11 Helge Krusehelge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net: Honestly, I used the 2.13 documentation. Now I downloaded the 2.14 documentation. Searching for stemDown\Up\Neutral I didn't find any hint to favor voiceOne/Two/Three. But I did not read thorough 763 pages. Which section are you referring? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/direction-and-placement It was added middle of March. Yes, unfortunately you can't find it in the German translation, what is displayed by default. But English is also fine for me. Thank you for this pointer. Do you think I should use the v2.15 docs for Lilypond 2.14? The release candidate for Lilypond 2.16 is already announced and so it might be sensible to look forward. More or less - there may be some differences, some of the examples in the Notation Reference that explicitly show '\relative c' (I think) are different in 2.14 than 2.15 and won't apply for 2.14 - this was because of a syntax change internally, it doesn't affect the code you have in your .ly file (or shouldn't) but might if you copied and pasted the examples in your .ly file. There may have been some more subtle changes but I would suggest that for 98.75354887% of your work, the 2.15 docs should be ok. I use them all the time for my 2.14.2 install and have not had any problems. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Avoiding tie/prall collision
Hello, On 11 April 2012 17:53, Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net wrote: Am 11.04.2012 09:36, schrieb James: 2012/4/11 Helge Krusehelge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net: Honestly, I used the 2.13 documentation. Now I downloaded the 2.14 documentation. Searching for stemDown\Up\Neutral I didn't find any hint to favor voiceOne/Two/Three. But I did not read thorough 763 pages. Which section are you referring? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/direction-and-placement It was added middle of March. Yes, unfortunately you can't find it in the German translation, what is displayed by default. But English is also fine for me. Well it requires that any changes I do in the English document are picked up and translated by the trasnaltors. The assumption is that those that do the German Translating see my checkins and make the same changes in the german doc. They do for the Spanish and French, but I think that is simply because the two or three that do that are always looking for it. Virtually all the checkins I do are for doc only and so the translators can easily see what I have done and if they need to make the changes in their docs too. But the translations are handled separately from the English documents, so it is very likely the different translations are not always consistent. Patches are always welcome :) often I see the German translation gets 'left behind' compared to the Spanish, French and Japanese versions. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Avoiding tie/prall collision
Helge, On 11 April 2012 13:02, Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net wrote: Am 11.04.2012 19:24, schrieb James: Well it requires that any changes I do in the English document are picked up and translated by the trasnaltors. The assumption is that those that do the German Translating see my checkins and make the same changes in the german doc. They do for the Spanish and French, but I think that is simply because the two or three that do that are always looking for it. Virtually all the checkins I do are for doc only and so the translators can easily see what I have done and if they need to make the changes in their docs too. But the translations are handled separately from the English documents, so it is very likely the different translations are not always consistent. Patches are always welcome :) often I see the German translation gets 'left behind' compared to the Spanish, French and Japanese versions. The two sentences in German would be something like this: In mehrstimmiger Musik ist es im Allgemeinen besser, die Stimme explizit mit voice auszuwählen anstatt die Ausrichtung einzelner Objekte zu ändern. Für weitere Informationen siehe: Multiple voices. But this may differ in style from the original translators. I am not in the team yet. I don't know if there is a need for additional translation support. Further I don't know how to see this checkins. Does it make sense to learn how to see this and to add annotations/additions? I could give it a try. Or did I missed just one cycle? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/translating-the-documentation.html Start here. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Flying ties
James On 13 April 2012 16:30, James Worlton jworl...@gmail.com wrote: I've found some odd tie behavior--not sure if it's known currently. Sorry, currently I can't test whether it also happens in earlier versions. The following code creates a flying tie situation around the upper and lower notes of the chord, in other words the ties lie far outside the staff. This happens probably because of the accidentals on the new line--if you take the \key out, removing the accidentals, the ties stay close to the notes: \version 2.15.36 \score { \new Staff { \relative a' { \key des \major a d f1~ \break q1 } } } James Worlton http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=379 is one of many tie issues or if not this one http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list?can=2q=tiescolspec=ID+Type+Status+Stars+Owner+Patch+Needs+Summarycells=tiles one of these will probably be this. It's also an area on our Google Summer of Code page http://lilypond.org/gsoc.html Not that 'helps' you. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: hideNotes in tablature
Federico, On 14 April 2012 10:57, Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I started using version 2.13.56 and I realized that this bug seems fixed: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1459 As hideNotes/unHideNotes work fine in TabStaff now, I'm thinking that it would be nice to add a TabNoteHead override/revert in their definitions in property-init.ly Two years ago Marc expressed some concern about including TabNoteHead inside hideNotes/unHideNotes, because unHideNotes reverts the transparency of objects (such as stems and dots) that shouldn't be displayed in TabStaff: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-01/msg00634.html I've made some tests and I think that there's no reason for such a concern. Everything looks fine to me (see the attached snippet). Sure, I'm missing something :) I believe that we don't need a specific command for hiding TabNoteHead. I always use Staff and TabStaff: both should display (or hide) the same music, I can't imagine a situation where I'd like to hide a note in Staff and not in TabStaff. What do you think about it? I think 'user' isn't the email list you really need to send this to but dev. Also I see have already updated the Tracker. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: extra repeat opening bar (related to \hideNotes?)
Hello, On 14 April 2012 12:13, Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi LilyPonders, unfortunately I'm not able to create a minimal example which reproduces the problem. Find attached a simplified version of my file. So are you _really_ saying if you remove a *single* line from your \global settings the problem goes away? For instance if were to remove the \key d \major line or the \time 4/4 line the problem 'goes away'? Is it that you cannot produce or cannot be bothered to try? James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: hideNotes in tablature
Hello, On 14 April 2012 15:47, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote: Am 14.04.2012 11:57, schrieb Federico Bruni: Hi, I started using version 2.13.56 and I realized that this bug seems fixed: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1459 I'll verify that if no one else has. I am building a latest version at the moment of 2.15.x However reading the tracker again just now, are the comments from this morning a 'new' issue or an 'enhancement' if so, we need a new tracker. Could Federico or Marc clarify please? James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: larger rehearsal marks
Hello, On 14 April 2012 20:26, Mogens Lemvig Hansen mog...@kayju.com wrote: How do I make (just) the rehearsal marks larger? Just add an appropriate extra font markup in your \mark command \mark \markup { \huge F } See also http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/formatting-text#selecting-font-and-font-size For more examples on how to change the font size in a \markup. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: larger rehearsal marks
Hello, On 14 April 2012 21:24, Mogens Lemvig Hansen mog...@kayju.com wrote: Hi all, Responses so far indicate that I wasn't clear. Again, I would like to have larger rehearsal marks. With explicit markup, it is easy, \mark \markup { \huge F } but how do I do it with the default marks, \mark \default ? As Keiren suggested Stick this in your \score. \override Score.RehearsalMark #'font-size = #5 (or whatever) James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: hideNotes in tablature
Hello, On 15 April 2012 07:13, Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com wrote: Il 14/04/2012 21:09, James ha scritto: Hello, On 14 April 2012 15:47, Marc Hohlm...@hohlart.de wrote: Am 14.04.2012 11:57, schrieb Federico Bruni: Hi, I started using version 2.13.56 and I realized that this bug seems fixed: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1459 I'll verify that if no one else has. I am building a latest version at the moment of 2.15.x I've tested it now on latest version of lilypond/translation branch. It works fine. Right so Issue 1459 is fixed? However reading the tracker again just now, are the comments from this morning a 'new' issue or an 'enhancement' if so, we need a new tracker. Could Federico or Marc clarify please? It's an enhancement, which has already been discussed before (see links I pasted in the tracker) but never recorded in the tracker. You don't really make it easy for the bug squad - who are generally non-technical people who have enough to do without having to pick apart/read through long threads, threads I might add that have never been reported to the bug list (or dev list - that was me). Federico, it seems you have the ability (and knowledge) to create a tracker yourself so I suggest that if issue 1459 is fixed you change the label to fixed - someone else will verify - and then create a new tracker for the enhancement - whatever it is. Else whoever comes back to the old tracker has to puzzle their way through and often this puts people off (unless you yourself are going to work and create the patch). If the change is accepted, the following snippet should be removed (I think): http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=633 Add this to the same (new?) Tracker as well. We're desperately trying to make it as easy as possible for the bug squad (and developers) to workout what a tracker is for and if/when it is fixed and more importantly how to know what they are looking at. I hope you understand. james ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: advanced (?) instrumentname setting
Gagi, On 15 April 2012 12:15, Gagi Petrovic gagig...@gmail.com wrote: oops, misclicked on send. Sorry. I'm looking for something like this, where the --- are the three lines of my percussive staff: e. m. c. This is quite common in percussive notation, that's why I find it odd I can't seem to find a way of doing this. Should be very simple, I'd think. Unless I am mistaking what you are trying to do, the best approach would be possibly to use a staff group, such that each '-' in your example is a system of music and then you can add an instrument name (as you would normally) for each instance. http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/writing-parts#instrument-names I don't use 'drumstaff' personally but I guess that your example would just be three of those each with their own instrument name all held together in a 'staff group'. Does that make sense? James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: parenthesize a dotted note
Hello, On 15 April 2012 15:37, Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com wrote: Il 15/04/2012 16:26, Paolo Prete ha scritto: has this bug been fixed in lilypond 2.15.xx ? http://old.nabble.com/Fix-155%3A-parentheses-include-accidentals-and-dots.-(issue-5047048)-td32485933.html in the tracker it's labeled as patch-abandoned: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=155 There are also a variety of snippets if you need a solution http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Search?q=parentheses James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: advanced (?) instrumentname setting
Hello, On 16 April 2012 09:13, Gagi Petrovic gagig...@gmail.com wrote: That's a clever idea James, thank you. Although I have to say for such a simple thing I find it a waste of the extra time I will have in creating the notes for the one percussion player. For example: if I want him to make a tremolo movement from the center of a gong towards the edge, I'd have to write c4:32 s2 in the lower stave, s4 c4:32 s4 in middle and s2 c4:32 in the upper stave.. instead of just putting it in one stave. Well yes that is true, I'm not a percussionist so am not sure what the differences between 'normal' notes and percussion notation is that makes this any less painful. but if you were doing ANY composition with multiple 'voices' (which is what you seem to be doing here) you'd have to do that anyway right? The only other thing I can suggest is using the columnar option with instrument names but again I am not sure if that is just as fiddly with instrument names. So my conclusion is that what I'm aiming for isn't yet implemented in LilyPond. Where to can I write proposals for relevant new ideas for improving LilyPond? http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list or send a nice enhancement request to http://lilypond.org/bug-reports.html James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user