Re: Centering chorus between even verses

2008-11-18 Thread james

\concat is your friend. It's also my friend.
Am 18.11.2008 um 16:36 schrieb Dominic Neumann:


There is only the definition of leftbrace and rightbrace but these are
not used in any place. So they don´t show up. I´ve tried to add
\rightbrace after \dropLyrics which works quite good, but has one
fundamental problem: The brace uses one note as a syllable would.
Maybe someon else has a helping idea ...

2008/11/18, james bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Is it just me, or does the brace not show up?

2008/11/18 Marek Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Maybe this snippet is what you are looking for:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=503

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2008/11/18 Cordilow [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Sometimes it's desirable to have the chorus begin on the same  
system as

the
end of the rest of the song. I have a situation where I need to  
do this.

Unfortunately, there are an even number of stacked lyric verses (or

whatever

you call them). I'd rather have the chorus centered between the two

verses
in height, rather than having looking like a continuation of one  
of the

verses. Is this possible? I'm trying to mimic what I see printed.
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Re: creating a centred column of markups

2008-11-26 Thread james

does this work for you:
\markup {
   \fill-line {
  \left-column {
 \line {roses are red}
 \line {violets are blue}
 \line {honey is sweet}
 \line {and so is sugar}
  }
   }

Am 26.11.2008 um 15:43 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:


[Lilypond 2.11.64]

Hi all,

I need a centred column of (left-aligned) markups — it's a poem  
that I want floating in the centre of the leading page of a  
choral score.


I know there have been a lot of changes recently, e.g. the thread  
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-08/ 
msg00573.html. I've looked through the docs and the LSR, but can't  
find a simple example showing how this can be done.


What's the final verdict on how to accomplish this?

Thanks,
Kieren.

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Re: creating a centred column of markups

2008-11-26 Thread james


Am 26.11.2008 um 16:42 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:


Hi James,


does this work for you


Not as an example of great poetry…  ;-)
I don't know. That poem is one of my favorites. It's full of surprise  
and whimsy. It's cute and clever, it gets its point across. I've read  
a lot of much worse poetry in my time.


p.s. Out of curiosity, I'd still be interested in how to accomplish  
this with \markuplines as opposed to \markup — anyone?




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Re: Multiple right-aligned lines in composer field

2008-11-27 Thread james
If you insist on using 2.10, then you need to use \right-align in  
addition to \column
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Overview-of- 
text-markup-commands#Overview-of-text-markup-commands

Am 27.11.2008 um 19:49 schrieb Marius Andersen:

I am using LilyPond 2.10.33 to arrange a few Radiohead tunes, so in  
the composer field I want to write the following long text which  
spans two lines:


Words and Music by Thomas Yorke, Jonathan Greenwood,
   Edward O'Brien, Philip Selway and Colin Greenwood

The composer field is right-aligned, and so I want both of these  
two lines to be right-aligned, too. However, if using \column, the  
second line gets left-aligned with reference to the first:


composer = \markup \column {
  Words and Music by Thomas Yorke, Jonathan Greenwood,
  Edward O'Brien, Philip Selway and Colin Greenwood }
}

yielding

Words and Music by Thomas Yorke, Jonathan Greenwood,
Edward O'Brien, Philip Selway and Colin Greenwood

And using center-aligned doesn't cut it, either:

composer = \markup \center-align {
  Words and Music by Thomas Yorke, Jonathan Greenwood,
  Edward O'Brien, Philip Selway and Colin Greenwood }
}

yielding

Words and Music by Thomas Yorke, Jonathan Greenwood,
 Edward O'Brien, Philip Selway and Colin Greenwood

I notice in the Notation Reference for LilyPond 2.11 that a new  
command, \right-column, is available, which would probably  
accomplish what I want. However, I'm stuck with 2.10. How do I get  
the alignment I want?



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Re: pianist's needs

2008-11-28 Thread james


Am 28.11.2008 um 20:28 schrieb Tim MacEachern:

I like the thrust of your notation software.  As a pianist, I'd  
like to make a
comment on what I would like to see.  Although the traditional  
method of marking
accidentals works, it can be time-consuming to figure out whether a  
note is to
be played as an accidental and this is often time a pianist does  
not have.  I'd
like to have my music all colour coded:  naturals should be in  
black, sharps in
some other colour, perhaps red, and flats in maybe green (double  
sharps and
flats are rare and could be done in black or a different colour).   
Then I would
not have to figure things out.  This colour coding could be added  
to normal

notation without changing the traditional aspects.

As an alternative to colour coding, it might be possible for the  
note heads to
be different shapes for accidentals.  These differences might be  
too small to

notice at pace though.


in contrast with other notation programs I've used, that's quite  
simple with lilypond.



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wrong link in AU 2.11.64

2008-11-29 Thread james
I don't know if it's true in other versions, but in Application  
Usage, 1.2.2 Requirements, the link to fontconfig points to http:// 
www.freetype.org, but it should probably point to http:// 
fontconfig.org/ Unless there is a fontconfig at freetype.org that I  
just didn't see.



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Re: \partial problem?

2008-12-02 Thread james


Am 02.12.2008 um 01:35 schrieb Jay Hamilton:


Hello-
I'm using 2.10 on windoze
And I figured out a solution but not sure that it's the only or  
best one.
Problem, I'm setting/arranging a sonata for a duet.  The first  
movement begins on the beat the 2nd movement begins with a \partial 8

The third movement begins on the beat.
I checked the docs for 2.10 under repeats and partials and there's  
no information on how to deal with the end of the 2nd movement and  
the beginning of the 3rd, for my case.
I ended up using a skip8 at the end before repeat of the 2nd  
movement.  Is this the best way to do this?
I don't want to get into book or such and prefer for my students to  
just flow from one movement to the next.


If this is 'the' way to deal with such a problem something (and  
perhaps it is in the new docs) should be mentioned or explained as  
it took me a while to figure out what was wrong.




You could always have an invisible time signature at the last  
(incomplete) measure of the second movement.



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convert-ly osx 10.4

2008-12-03 Thread james
I remember it being discussed, but I didn't do it at the time. What  
do I need to change so convert-ly knows where to find python 2.6? I  
haven't been keeping up with all the updates, but with 2.12 being  
released soon, I figured I'd start.



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Re: convert-ly osx 10.4

2008-12-03 Thread james


Am 03.12.2008 um 11:34 schrieb Graham Percival:


On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 11:24:42AM +0100, james wrote:
I remember it being discussed, but I didn't do it at the time.  
What do I
need to change so convert-ly knows where to find python 2.6? I  
haven't
been keeping up with all the updates, but with 2.12 being released  
soon,

I figured I'd start.


Edit the file; change
#!/usr/bin/python
to
#!/usr/bin/env python


So basically, I'm just making it so the computer doesn't find python / 
usr/bin?




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Re: convert-ly osx 10.4

2008-12-03 Thread james


Am 03.12.2008 um 11:34 schrieb Graham Percival:


On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 11:24:42AM +0100, james wrote:
I remember it being discussed, but I didn't do it at the time.  
What do I
need to change so convert-ly knows where to find python 2.6? I  
haven't
been keeping up with all the updates, but with 2.12 being released  
soon,

I figured I'd start.


Edit the file; change
#!/usr/bin/python
to
#!/usr/bin/env python


Oh, I just realised, I need to change the first line of convert-ly.



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vertical spacing question

2008-12-03 Thread james
I have a question about vertical spacing between systems of a single  
score inside a book. how do I access page0limit-inter-system-space  
inside a \layout block? I want those settings only for a single score.



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Re: vertical spacing question

2008-12-03 Thread james


Am 03.12.2008 um 22:41 schrieb Neil Puttock:


Hi James,

2008/12/3 james [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I have a question about vertical spacing between systems of a  
single score

inside a book. how do I access page0limit-inter-system-space inside a
\layout block? I want those settings only for a single score.


I think you'll have to use \bookpart, since
page-limit-inter-system-space won't have any effect inside \layout.


I'm sorry, \bookpart is new to me, and I don't find it when I search  
for it in the one big page option. Where can I learn more about this?




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font switching help

2008-12-03 Thread james
I'm not understanding how font switching in a \markup block works. I  
thought that I could just do \markup \override #'(fontname .  
#'Courier) {test} and it would work, but it doesn't. Is there some  
other command that I've missed?



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Re: font switching help

2008-12-04 Thread james


Am 04.12.2008 um 06:41 schrieb Jan van Dijk:


Op Thursday 04 December 2008 00:47:52 schreef james:

I'm not understanding how font switching in a \markup block works. I
thought that I could just do \markup \override #'(fontname .
#'Courier) {test} and it would work, but it doesn't. Is there some
other command that I've missed?


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You can try this one:
\override #'(font-name . Courier)


I hate it when I miss a closing quotation mark.


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Re: font switching help

2008-12-04 Thread james


Am 04.12.2008 um 06:41 schrieb Jan van Dijk:


Op Thursday 04 December 2008 00:47:52 schreef james:

I'm not understanding how font switching in a \markup block works. I
thought that I could just do \markup \override #'(fontname .
#'Courier) {test} and it would work, but it doesn't. Is there some
other command that I've missed?


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You can try this one:
\override #'(font-name . Courier)


Ah, I see now that courier was a poor choice, because Lilypond has  
its own courier. I'm trying to get to a font that's just installed on  
the computer, Palatino, to be precise. So far, I've been unsuccessful  
in my attempt. I found a thread from kieren a while ago that  
mentions, Pango on OSX can only use Truetype fonts (including  
dfonts) that contain only one font variant.
Unfortunately, the answer is apparently in a regression test  
document, font-family-override.ly and I don't know where to find  
input/regression (which is where I assume from the documentation this  
file would live). I'm on MacOSX 10.4.



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Re: font switching help

2008-12-04 Thread james


Am 04.12.2008 um 01:02 schrieb Neil Puttock:


Hi James,

2008/12/3 james [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I'm not understanding how font switching in a \markup block works.  
I thought
that I could just do \markup \override #'(fontname . #'Courier)  
{test} and
it would work, but it doesn't. Is there some other command that  
I've missed?


Have a look at this section:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/ 
Fonts#Single-entry-fonts


Also, in the interest of being completely explicit, I took the  
palatino installed by MacTeX, converted it with fontforge to a  
macintosh acceptable font, and installed it with the default font  
manager, fontbook. It's available to every other application.



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Re: font switching help

2008-12-04 Thread james
I did. I have the list of all the fonts. Well, I have the directories  
that the available fonts are in. If that actually listed font names  
accepted, it would be perfect! Is there another option to do this?

Am 04.12.2008 um 12:01 schrieb Mats Bengtsson:


Did you read
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/ 
Fonts#Fonts-explained


In particular, it explains how to obtain a list over all fonts on  
your system that are available

to LilyPond.

   /Mats

james wrote:


Am 04.12.2008 um 06:41 schrieb Jan van Dijk:


Op Thursday 04 December 2008 00:47:52 schreef james:
I'm not understanding how font switching in a \markup block  
works. I

thought that I could just do \markup \override #'(fontname .
#'Courier) {test} and it would work, but it doesn't. Is there some
other command that I've missed?


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You can try this one:
\override #'(font-name . Courier)


Ah, I see now that courier was a poor choice, because Lilypond has  
its own courier. I'm trying to get to a font that's just installed  
on the computer, Palatino, to be precise. So far, I've been  
unsuccessful in my attempt. I found a thread from kieren a while  
ago that mentions, Pango on OSX can only use Truetype fonts  
(including dfonts) that contain only one font variant.
Unfortunately, the answer is apparently in a regression test  
document, font-family-override.ly and I don't know where to find  
input/regression (which is where I assume from the documentation  
this file would live). I'm on MacOSX 10.4.



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Re: font switching help

2008-12-04 Thread james
Well, to be completely explicit, it lists the fonts that lilypond  
installs by name, and then the directories for the system fonts. I  
just don't know what name to call the system fonts by.
I've tried the file name and the name that shows up in fontbook, but  
nothing so far works.


Am 04.12.2008 um 12:01 schrieb Mats Bengtsson:


Did you read
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/ 
Fonts#Fonts-explained


In particular, it explains how to obtain a list over all fonts on  
your system that are available

to LilyPond.

   /Mats

james wrote:


Am 04.12.2008 um 06:41 schrieb Jan van Dijk:


Op Thursday 04 December 2008 00:47:52 schreef james:
I'm not understanding how font switching in a \markup block  
works. I

thought that I could just do \markup \override #'(fontname .
#'Courier) {test} and it would work, but it doesn't. Is there some
other command that I've missed?


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You can try this one:
\override #'(font-name . Courier)


Ah, I see now that courier was a poor choice, because Lilypond has  
its own courier. I'm trying to get to a font that's just installed  
on the computer, Palatino, to be precise. So far, I've been  
unsuccessful in my attempt. I found a thread from kieren a while  
ago that mentions, Pango on OSX can only use Truetype fonts  
(including dfonts) that contain only one font variant.
Unfortunately, the answer is apparently in a regression test  
document, font-family-override.ly and I don't know where to find  
input/regression (which is where I assume from the documentation  
this file would live). I'm on MacOSX 10.4.



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Re: font switching help

2008-12-04 Thread james
Oops, I looked more closely at the list, and it does name all the  
system fonts. I just don't see palatino in the list.


Am 04.12.2008 um 12:01 schrieb Mats Bengtsson:


Did you read
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/ 
Fonts#Fonts-explained


In particular, it explains how to obtain a list over all fonts on  
your system that are available

to LilyPond.

   /Mats

james wrote:


Am 04.12.2008 um 06:41 schrieb Jan van Dijk:


Op Thursday 04 December 2008 00:47:52 schreef james:
I'm not understanding how font switching in a \markup block  
works. I

thought that I could just do \markup \override #'(fontname .
#'Courier) {test} and it would work, but it doesn't. Is there some
other command that I've missed?


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You can try this one:
\override #'(font-name . Courier)


Ah, I see now that courier was a poor choice, because Lilypond has  
its own courier. I'm trying to get to a font that's just installed  
on the computer, Palatino, to be precise. So far, I've been  
unsuccessful in my attempt. I found a thread from kieren a while  
ago that mentions, Pango on OSX can only use Truetype fonts  
(including dfonts) that contain only one font variant.
Unfortunately, the answer is apparently in a regression test  
document, font-family-override.ly and I don't know where to find  
input/regression (which is where I assume from the documentation  
this file would live). I'm on MacOSX 10.4.



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Re: font switching help

2008-12-04 Thread james
After much searching, I found it. Fontbook installs user-installed  
fonts to a directory that isn't indexed by fontconfig ~/Library/ 
Fonts. After I realised that, I knew to tell fontbook to install my  
fonts system-wide, apparently, osx doesn't use ~/.fonts/ which  
fontconfig does index.



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breakbefore help

2008-12-04 Thread james
I wanted to have a title page before the music begins. I assumed I'd  
set up my title page, have breakbefore=##t in my \header, and have my  
title page on the first page, the header information on the second  
page. I see that is not the case. Whent does breakbefore work? The  
documentation mentions it, but it isn't included in the example that  
shows the usage of header titles. I made a minimal snippet to see,  
but I can't figure it out.

\version 2.11.65
\header {
   title = title
   breakbefore = ##t
}
\markup { page one }
\pageBreak
\relative c' {\time 5/4 c d e f g a g f e }
\markup { page two }
\pageBreak
\markup { page three }



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Re: breakbefore help

2008-12-04 Thread james


Am 04.12.2008 um 18:24 schrieb -Eluze:




james bailey-2 wrote:


I wanted to have a title page before the music begins. I assumed I'd



does this about what you're looking for?


Sadly, no. My title page consisted of just markups organised on the  
page. I just decided to scrap the pre-designed \header and copy it in  
markup.



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Re: vertical spacing question

2008-12-04 Thread james


Am 03.12.2008 um 22:59 schrieb Neil Puttock:


2008/12/3 james [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

I'm sorry, \bookpart is new to me, and I don't find it when I  
search for it

in the one big page option. Where can I learn more about this?


It's hot off the press. :)

Here are some links from the 2.11.65 docs:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/topdocs/NEWS

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Multiple- 
scores-in-a-book#index-_005cbookpart-1


http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/File- 
structure#File-structure


http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Page- 
breaking#index-_005cbookpart-3


I'm having some difficulty. So far, in a score that compiles fine  
without \bookpart, I only get bus errors when I try to use \bookpart.  
I've tried having just one \score in the \bookpart, I've tried having  
all of them in \bookparts. The example from eluze works, so I'm sure  
bookpart works, but on my score that works without \bookpart,  
\bookpart doesn't work. So, is there something I can do to remedy  
this? I thought the score was fine, I don't get any errors when  
processing, but when it comes to using \bookpart, I get bus error and  
no file.


I'm using OSX 10.4 and lilypond 2.11.65 (release candidate)


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unfold and tremolo have different math

2008-12-05 Thread james
The only difference between these two is the unfold/tremolo, so why  
do they render differently?

\version 2.11.65

\relative c' {
   \scaleDurations #'(2 . 3) {
  \repeat tremolo 9 c e g8 \repeat tremolo 3 c e fis8
  \repeat unfold 4 { \repeat tremolo 3 c d fis8 }
   }
}
\relative c' {
   \scaleDurations #'(2 . 3) {
  \repeat unfold 9 c e g8 \repeat unfold 3 c e fis8
  \repeat unfold 4 { \repeat unfold 3 c d fis8 }
   }
}
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Re: unfold and tremolo have different math

2008-12-05 Thread james

How does this apply?

Am 05.12.2008 um 23:52 schrieb Toine Schreurs:


See section 1.4.2 Short Repeats:

The \repeat tremolo syntax expects exactly two notes within the
braces, and the number of repetitions must correspond to a note
value that can be expressed with plain or dotted notes. Thus,
\repeat tremolo 7 is valid and produces a double dotted note, but
\repeat tremolo 9 is not.

There are two ways to put tremolo marks on a single note. The
\repeat tremolo syntax is also used here, in which case the note
should not be surrounded by braces


The only difference between these two is the unfold/tremolo, so why
do they render differently?
\version 2.11.65

\relative c' {
\scaleDurations #'(2 . 3) {
   \repeat tremolo 9 c e g8 \repeat tremolo 3 c e fis8
   \repeat unfold 4 { \repeat tremolo 3 c d fis8 }
}
}
\relative c' {
\scaleDurations #'(2 . 3) {
   \repeat unfold 9 c e g8 \repeat unfold 3 c e fis8
   \repeat unfold 4 { \repeat unfold 3 c d fis8 }
}
}


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Re: unfold and tremolo have different math

2008-12-05 Thread james
Sorry, cut off. How does this apply \times 2/3 { c8 c c} \times 2/3  
{c c c} \times 2/3 {c c c} is 9 repetitions of the note c, expressed  
as a tremolo, this should be \repeat tremolo 9 \times 2/3 {c8}


Am 05.12.2008 um 23:52 schrieb Toine Schreurs:


See section 1.4.2 Short Repeats:

The \repeat tremolo syntax expects exactly two notes within the
braces, and the number of repetitions must correspond to a note
value that can be expressed with plain or dotted notes. Thus,
\repeat tremolo 7 is valid and produces a double dotted note, but
\repeat tremolo 9 is not.

There are two ways to put tremolo marks on a single note. The
\repeat tremolo syntax is also used here, in which case the note
should not be surrounded by braces


The only difference between these two is the unfold/tremolo, so why
do they render differently?
\version 2.11.65

\relative c' {
\scaleDurations #'(2 . 3) {
   \repeat tremolo 9 c e g8 \repeat tremolo 3 c e fis8
   \repeat unfold 4 { \repeat tremolo 3 c d fis8 }
}
}
\relative c' {
\scaleDurations #'(2 . 3) {
   \repeat unfold 9 c e g8 \repeat unfold 3 c e fis8
   \repeat unfold 4 { \repeat unfold 3 c d fis8 }
}
}


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suppress page number

2008-12-06 Thread james
Is it possible to not print the second page number? I don't see an  
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two simultaneous marks

2008-12-11 Thread james
Hello, I'd like to have two simultaneous marks,  fine under the  
staff and a rehearsal letter above the staff. I've found http:// 
lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-04/msg00492.html
which suggests I split all of the music after the fine into a coda  
section with a \stopStaff \startStaff, and I'm not really fond of  
that idea. Is there another way of getting two marks to print at the  
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blank pages

2008-12-18 Thread james
I'm wondering how I can force lilypond to have blank pages. I see the  
blank-page-force, but I don't understand how to get it. For example:


\paper {
   blank-page-force = ##t
}

\markup { page one }
\pageBreak
\pageBreak
\markup { page four }



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Re: blank pages

2008-12-18 Thread james

Ha, I found a solution, empty markups:

\markup { page one }
\pageBreak
\markup {}
\pageBreak
\markup {}
\pageBreak
\markup { page four }

Am 18.12.2008 um 13:35 schrieb james:

I'm wondering how I can force lilypond to have blank pages. I see  
the blank-page-force, but I don't understand how to get it. For  
example:


\paper {
   blank-page-force = ##t
}

\markup { page one }
\pageBreak
\pageBreak
\markup { page four }





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avoid slur help

2008-12-26 Thread james
I'm having some difficulty understanding the 'avoid-slur property.  
This doesn't work:

\version 2.11.65

\relative c'' {
   \override TextScript #'avoid-slur = #'inside
   c2*1/2( s4^\markup {\natural} d4.) c8
}

In fact, it increases the space between the slur and the notes, but  
doesn't move the markup down.
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also, lyric help

2008-12-26 Thread james
I'm trying to figure out ways to incorporate lyrics associated with  
different voices. I can only seem to get it to work using  
associatedVoice. Is this possible using \lyricsto?

\version 2.11.65

instrument = \relative c' {
   \context Voice = NumberOne { c4 d e f }
   \context Voice = NumberTwo { c4 d e f }
   \context Voice = NumberThree { c4 d e f }
   \context Voice = NumberOne { c'4 b a g }
   \context Voice = NumberTwo { c4 b a g }
   \context Voice = NumberThree { c b a g }
}

Text = \context Lyrics {
   \lyricsto NumberOne { Cee Dee Eee Eff }
   \lyricsto NumberTwo { Doh Re Mi Fa }
   \lyricsto NumberThree { This is my text. }
   \lyricsto NumberOne { Cee Bee Ay Gee }
   \lyricsto NumberTwo { Doh Ti La Sol }
   \lyricsto NumberThree { Here is some more. }
}

TextTwo = \context Lyrics \lyricmode {
   \set associatedVoice = #NumberOne { Cee4 Dee Eee Eff }
   \set associatedVoice = #NumberTwo { Doh4 Re Mi Fa }
   \set associatedVoice = #NumberThree { This4 is my text. }
   \set associatedVoice = #NumberOne { Cee4 Bee Ay Gee }
   \set associatedVoice = #NumberTwo { Doh4 Ti La Sol }
   \set associatedVoice = #NumberThree { Here4 is some more. }
}

\score {
   
  \new Staff \instrument
  \Text
   
}
\score {
   
  \new Staff \instrument
  \TextTwo
   
}



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Re: avoid slur help

2008-12-26 Thread james
In the meantime, I figured out another solution: I can just do  
everything in markup, and set the baseline skip myself.

\version 2.11.65

\relative c'' {
   \override TextScript #'avoid-slur = #'inside
   \override TextScript #'outside-staff-priority = ##f
   c2*1/2( s4^\markup \tiny \override #'(baseline-skip . 1)  
{ \center-column {\musicglyph #accidentals.natural \musicglyph  
#scripts.turn } }d4.) c8

}

Am 26.12.2008 um 21:46 schrieb James E. Bailey:

Neil, thanks for the help, now I guess I move on to the next part  
of this problem:

\version 2.11.65

\relative c'' {
   \override TextScript #'avoid-slur = #'inside
   \override Script #'avoid-slur = #'inside
   \override TextScript #'script-priority = #-100
   \override TextScript #'outside-staff-priority = ##f
   c2*1/2( s4^\markup \center-column {\natural}^\turn d4.) c8
}
And it's so close, too.

Perhaps Graham can point me in the direction of the appropriate  
section of the documentation. It would be very helpful, and most  
appreciated.avoid slur.png

Am 26.12.2008 um 17:57 schrieb Graham Percival:


On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 03:50:46PM +0100, Eyolf ?strem wrote:

On 26.12.2008 (15:06), Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:

If so then I'd just use d!4. instead.


No, it was common practice to put accidentals above notes in  
older times.
Sometimes these were meant to be optional, sometimes they were  
cautinary
accidentals. In any case, if you try to be close to the source,  
you should

write it above the note and not as d!4.


Slight correction: it is customary in modern editions to put  
editorial
accidentals above the note. They are not optional, but frequently  
left to
the performer to apply, according to more or less strict rules  
(see Musica

ficta in the docs).


Thanks, Eyolf.  I was going to post something very sarcastic.  :)
No, wait -- I'm going to do that anyway.  *ahem*

To everybody apart from Eyolf who posted in this thread: musica
ficta can be found through a see also link under NR 1.1
Accidentals, directly in NR 2.8.3 Annotational accidentals (musica
ficta), or in NR appendix F index.

Cheers,
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\lyricsto vs. \set associatedVoice

2008-12-27 Thread james
What exactly is the difference between \lyricsto and \set  
associatedVoice? The documentation isn't very explicit on this point,  
and I've come to situation where I think I need to use \set  
associatedVoice because the output is different from the \lyricsto  
output.


The important issue here is that using \set associatedVoice it works,  
and using \lyricsto it does not. I think it might be helpful to point  
out at least this one difference between the two.


Also, if I try to put the two staves in the same \score block, I get  
a segmentation fault.


\version 2.11.65

instrument = \relative c' {
   \context Voice = NumberOne { c4 }
   \context Voice = NumberTwo { d4 }
   \context Voice = NumberOne { e4 }
   \context Voice = NumberTwo { f4 }
}

Text = \context Lyrics {
   \lyricsto NumberOne { Cee }
   \lyricsto NumberTwo { Ray }
   \lyricsto NumberOne { Eee }
   \lyricsto NumberTwo { Fa }
}

TextTwo = \context Lyrics \lyricmode {
   \set associatedVoice = #NumberOne { Cee4 }
   \set associatedVoice = #NumberTwo { Ray4 }
   \set associatedVoice = #NumberOne { Eee4 }
   \set associatedVoice = #NumberTwo { Fa4 }
}

\score {
   
  \new Staff \instrument
  \Text
   
}

\score {
   
  \new Staff \instrument
  \TextTwo
   
}



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emacs midi support

2009-01-10 Thread james
I just noticed that the midi and midi all commands don't correctly  
escape paths on OSX. I think this is similar to the previous emacs  
mode not escaping paths.

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-09/msg00301.html


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Re: Error in footnote documentation

2012-03-01 Thread James
Hello,

On 29 February 2012 21:25, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote:
 In the NR at
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/creating-footnotes#automatic-footnotes,
 the documentation on automatic footnotes says (asterisks are mine) The
 command \footnote must come *before* the grob that the footnote is being
 attached to. At
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/creating-footnotes#manual-footnotes,
 it states Like automatic footnotes, manual \footnote commands must come
 *after* the grob that the footnote is annotating, which conflicts with the
 earlier statement.


http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2367

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Re: templates for writing mysicological book

2012-03-04 Thread James
Hello,

On 4 March 2012 10:07,  vedran.vu...@gnulinuxcentar.org wrote:
 Hello,

...
 Do you know is Lilypond plugin for OpenOffice
 updated regularly. I could not find decently new versions for Libre Office.

You mean this:

http://ooolilypond.sourceforge.net/

?

I don't think so.

I'll cc the development list to see if anyone has any comment or suggestions.


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Re: LSR updates: was: polychords: a working solution

2012-03-04 Thread James
Phil,

On 4 March 2012 18:30, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote:
 - Original Message - From: Thomas Morley
 thomasmorle...@googlemail.com
 To: David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com
 Cc: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 11:14 PM
 Subject: Re: LSR updates: was: polychords: a working solution
...


 warning: MIDI channel wrapped around
 warning: remapping modulo 16

 I never saw them before during my testings. And I can't appraise them.

LIAR!

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2011-06/msg00833.html

;)

I think if look in the Archives you might find the others too.

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Re: \cadenzaOff and accidentals

2012-03-05 Thread James
Hello,

On 5 March 2012 15:20, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
 Neil Thornock neilthorn...@gmail.com writes:

 In my mind, the real bug is that \cadenzaOff does not seem to turn the
 cadenza off immediately, but rather one measure later.  I'm not sure
 why it behaves as it does.

 It resets timing to normal, and normal does not mean the end of a
 measure.


Normal from what perspective? Where it left off before \cadenzaOn or
simply that it starts back at '0' immediately \cadenzaOff

I'm wondering if we need something (a sentence of two) in the NR to
avoid what is obviously something that does confuse people.

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Re: Vertical Spacing - A Newbie Question

2012-03-05 Thread James
Hello,

On 5 March 2012 17:57, Robert Thompson robert_thomp...@xplornet.ca wrote:
 I've used Lilypond a few times and been generally impressed. However, there
 is one thing I cannot figure out: how do I leave a vertical blank space
 between lines of music? For example, if I'm transcribing a chart that has a
 D.S. al coda, I'd like an inch  or so of space between the main chart and
 the coda.

 This seems like such an obvious requirement, and I apologize if my befuddled
 brain hasn't recognized it in any of the documentation.


The way I do it is to create a separate \score { } for my main piece
and for my coda.

Then you can use 'score-system-spacing'

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing-_005cpaper-variables

Something like

\version 2.14.2

musicMain= { a b c d ... }

musicCoda = { e f g h ...}

\score {
  \musicMain
}

\score {
  \musicCoda
}

\paper {
score-system-spacing #'basic-distance = #20
}

Then I also use

ragged-last-bottom in my \paper variable as set to #t else that
interferes with the overall gap I want by 'pulling' the coda to the
bottom regardless.

That works for me.

This also indents the coda as it is a new \score, by default but if
you don't want that you can just add indent = 0\mm to your \paper (I
think, I haven't tried that specifically but I think it will work).

Anyway, I hope you get the idea.

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Re: The LilyPond Report #24 has been released

2012-03-05 Thread James
Hello,

On 5 March 2012 18:20, Christophe Poncy c...@canaxis.org wrote:


 More broadly, my feeling is that GNU hackers should use the Wikimedia
 projects, wikibooks for the manuals for example...

Oh yuk no.

How do I view a 'wikibook' offline *easily*?

PDF is nice, searchable, indexable. How do we simply get all our
examples into a wiki? At the moment we use lilypond to create its own
examples in the doc, with a wiki we'd have to what cut and paste all
the examples in as pngs? What happens when we change our spacing or
some other aspect of output which would then require all the examples
to be regenerated and put in the wiki. Reg tests anyone?

Also while wikis are often seen as 'democratic' part of what makes our
manuals good (even if I do say so myself as a doc editor) is that we
have a pretty good and strict doc review process.


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Re: difficulty filling the whole page

2012-03-07 Thread James
Hello,

On 7 March 2012 10:26, Jean-Alexis Montignies j...@montignies.info wrote:
 Hi there,

 I've written a score and after playing with spacing, and margins I made it a 
 one page score.
 But at the end of the page, there is about 20 mm left. If I increase the top 
 margin to 1mm (it's 0 for now as is bottom margin), lilypond add a second 
 page, though obviously from the human perspective there is still plenty of 
 room :)

 Any clue?


I'd suggest generally that you get into the habit of setting some
\paper { } variables for all your scores.

For example I always use (among other specific settings)

 \paper {

  indent = 10\mm
  left-margin = 15\mm
  right-margin = 15\mm
  bottom-margin = 15\mm
  top-margin = 10\mm
  line-length = 180\mm
  ragged-last-bottom = ##f

}

which suits my needs for A4 paper.

So you could then play about with ragged-last-bottom and bottom-margin.

Hope this helps.

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Re: difficulty filling the whole page

2012-03-07 Thread James
hello,

On 7 March 2012 11:17, Jean-Alexis Montignies j...@montignies.info wrote:

 On 7 mars 2012, at 12:10, Hans Aikema wrote:

 On 7-3-2012 11:26, Jean-Alexis Montignies wrote:
 Hi there,

 I've written a score and after playing with spacing, and margins I made it 
 a one page score.
 But at the end of the page, there is about 20 mm left. If I increase the 
 top margin to 1mm (it's 0 for now as is bottom margin), lilypond add a 
 second page, though obviously from the human perspective there is still 
 plenty of room :)

 Any clue?

Also which version of LilyPond are you using?


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Re: Status of Lilypond for MacOS X

2012-03-10 Thread James
hello,

On 10 March 2012 10:38, Hans Aikema hans.aik...@aikebah.net wrote:
 On 9-3-2012 18:39, Graham Percival wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 03:00:33PM +, Colin Hall wrote:

 There is a known critical issue with Lilypond for MacOS X version
 2.14.2.

 I'd use different terminology.  The lilypond osx download page
 clearly says MacOS X 10.7 Lion is not yet supported..  As such,
 any failure to run on 10.7 is not a bug.

 - Graham

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 Graham,

 I tend to agree, but cannot resist to mention that your claim is incorrect.
 It's not clearly noted on all download-page (some don't even mention 10.4 as
 the lowest supported version). The remark is missing afaics on the pages in
 Czech (cs), Hungarian (hu), Japanese (ja), Dutch (nl) and Chinese (zh)
 download pages. Not all musicians speak
 English/French/German/Spanish/Italian. (Landing on the Dutch page by default
 made me crawl the other languages).

That is unfortunate, however 'most' (not all) of the non-english pages
are 'out of date' compared to the English one. It's not that there is
any bias, it's that if no one offers to translate these pages then
those of us who do doc and don't speak these languages cannot make any
changes to the files. I am not sure therefore what you expect to
happen.

Any suggestions welcome.

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Re: Status of Lilypond for MacOS X

2012-03-10 Thread James
Hello again,

On 10 March 2012 10:38, Hans Aikema hans.aik...@aikebah.net wrote:
 On 9-3-2012 18:39, Graham Percival wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 03:00:33PM +, Colin Hall wrote:

 There is a known critical issue with Lilypond for MacOS X version
 2.14.2.

 I'd use different terminology.  The lilypond osx download page
 clearly says MacOS X 10.7 Lion is not yet supported..  As such,
 any failure to run on 10.7 is not a bug.

 - Graham

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 Graham,

 I tend to agree, but cannot resist to mention that your claim is incorrect.
 It's not clearly noted on all download-page (some don't even mention 10.4 as
 the lowest supported version). The remark is missing afaics on the pages in
 Czech (cs), Hungarian (hu), Japanese (ja), Dutch (nl) and Chinese (zh)
 download pages. Not all musicians speak
 English/French/German/Spanish/Italian. (Landing on the Dutch page by default
 made me crawl the other languages).


All I can do for now is

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2385


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Re: Lilypond 2.15.33 on Mac OSX

2012-03-10 Thread James
Hans,

On 10 March 2012 13:59, Hans Aikema hans.aik...@aikebah.net wrote:
 On 10-3-2012 11:12, Colin Hall wrote:


 On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 08:50:35PM -0600, James Worlton wrote:

 I have downloaded and extracted Lilypond 2.15.33 on my PPC Mac 10.4.11.
 Everything seems to work fine. No problems here!

 James Worlton

 Thanks for the feedback, James.

 Cheers,
 Colin.

 Just downloaded and tested Lilypond 2.15.33 on my MBP (Core i5; early 2011)
 Mac OS X 10.7.3
 Opening up the app and typesetting the trial music works fine.

 Is hyperlinking from the noteheads of the PDF (in Mac OS X's Preview app) to
 the lilypond editor supposed to work out-of-the-box? (It's not, but it might
 be that it never worked, it's just me trying for the first time)

Add \pointAndClickOn to your LilyPond file and recompile.

I haven't used MacOSX for a while so cannot remember if it is out of
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Re: tupletFullLength clashes with barline

2012-03-10 Thread James
Hello,

On 10 March 2012 08:18, Peter O'Doherty m...@peterodoherty.net wrote:
 Hi list,

 tupletFullLength = ##t

 causes the right hand part of the tuplet bracket to clash with the barline.
 This only happens with a barline at the end of a line.

 Is there a way to avoid this?


Tiny example and the version you are using might help us.

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Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

2012-03-13 Thread James
Hello,

On 13 March 2012 12:02, Rodolfo Zitellini xhero...@gmail.com wrote:

...

  If you are used to
 finale/sibelius, this is indeed shocking as the first times you use
 lilypond it is very difficult to correlate your textual input to what
 will end up in the pdf. It took me some deal of time to stop finding
 the layout as magical.

I've never stopped thinking it's like 'magic' =8 ) - I've been using
LP for the last 2 years.

Oh if you've ever had to transcribe a piece of 'real' music (by real I
mean an old dog-eared printed complete score that's in the 'wrong'
pitch for your instrument) I cannot believe that typing letters on a
keyboard is anything but *significantly* faster than dragging and
dropping graphics on a page, especially if they are peppered with
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Re: localized horizontal spacing

2012-03-13 Thread James
Hello,

On 13 March 2012 17:15, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/3/13 Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com:
 {
  \override Score.SpacingSpanner
  #'base-shortest-duration = #(ly:make-moment 1 2)
  b4 b b b
  \newSpacingSection
  \override Score.SpacingSpanner
  #'base-shortest-duration = #(ly:make-moment 1 16)
  b4 b b b
  \newSpacingSection
  \override Score.SpacingSpanner
  #'base-shortest-duration = #(ly:make-moment 1 2)
  b4 b b b
 }

 And the default is #(ly:make-moment 3 16)
 BTW


What would one use if (for instance) one wanted all notes to touch or
rather be exactly touching the edge of the 'note column' of the
previous note so if I were to write

a32 a a a a a a a a a a a a

(assume no bar lines) all the notes would be touching?


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Re: localized horizontal spacing

2012-03-13 Thread James
Hello,

On 13 March 2012 17:39, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/3/13 James pkx1...@gmail.com:
 Hello,


 What would one use if (for instance) one wanted all notes to touch or
 rather be exactly touching the edge of the 'note column' of the
 previous note so if I were to write

 a32 a a a a a a a a a a a a

 (assume no bar lines) all the notes would be touching?

 \override Score.SpacingSpanner #'packed-spacing = ##t

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Re: Old style numerals for page numbers

2012-03-13 Thread James
Hello

On 13 March 2012 15:40, Benjamin Bloomfield bhb...@gmail.com wrote:
 I tried sending this earlier, but didn't receive it myself, so I am
 trying again.

For some reason this email ended up marked as 'spam' for me. So maybe
that was the reason?


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Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.0.4

2012-03-14 Thread James
Hello,

2012/3/14 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com:
 On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Wilbert Berendsen wbs...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 Please let me know the things you miss most! Note that F2 is only
 (roughly) one year old and really written from scratch, the first commit
 is of Nov 11, 2012. I intend to keep developing and adding new
 features. I think the current technical infrastructure and code setup is
 very nice.

 I miss:



https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/issues

This is where you need to put this stuff, so Wilbert can keep track of it.



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Re: Add more space between arbitrary groups of notes

2012-03-14 Thread James
Hello,

On 14 March 2012 08:07, Svetlana eurid...@yandex.ru wrote:
 Hello all,


 I have three wishes that I can't accomplish:
 1) I'd like be able to add more space between notes where s1 doesn't help.

See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-03/msg00379.html

This might help.

I cannot help you with the others :/


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Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?

2012-03-15 Thread James
Hello,

On 14 March 2012 23:35, Father Gordon Gilbert fatherg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Wilbert,

 I had figured it was something like that, but I am too far from geeky
 to be able to implement something that complicated.  I certainly do
 make use of it, though!

 I have another problem now, however.

 When I upgraded Lily to the latest (2.15.33) and began to use Fresco
 again to work on a new file, the whole thing seems broken!  Not sure
 what I did, but in the compliation panel, all I get is the following:

 Starting lilypond-windows.exe. [file.ly]...
 Could not start lilypond-windows.exe.
 Please check path and permissions.

 I didn't *actively* do anything to the path or permissions, and I even
 tried uninstalling and reinstalling both Frescobaldi and LilyPond,
 with no improvement.

 Where to I look to find the problem, and how can I fix it?  Holy Week
 is coming up, and I have some things I need to do!  Help!

It almost certainly won't be Frescobaldi it'll be where/how windows
has installed your later version of LilyPond.

Install LilyPond as normal and then open a 'cmd' prompt (if you don't
know what that is then click on the start menu in the task bar and
either look for the 'run' menu option and type cmd or you can search
for 'cmd.exe' and open it.

Then from that command prompt type

path

This will list all the 'paths' to the applications you have installed.
It'll be a long list, and you should (hopefully) see something like

C;/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin; in there (I may have got that
slightly inaccurate - I am doing this from memory) but you will see
'LilyPond' somewhere.

If you don't see it then this is the problem and you will need to add
it manually.

I am about to leave for work, but if you still have problems or no one
else answers I'll be around in an hour or so.





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Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?

2012-03-15 Thread James
Father Gilbert

On 14 March 2012 23:35, Father Gordon Gilbert fatherg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Wilbert,

 I had figured it was something like that, but I am too far from geeky
 to be able to implement something that complicated.  I certainly do
 make use of it, though!

 I have another problem now, however.

 When I upgraded Lily to the latest (2.15.33) and began to use Fresco
 again to work on a new file, the whole thing seems broken!  Not sure
 what I did, but in the compliation panel, all I get is the following:

 Starting lilypond-windows.exe. [file.ly]...
 Could not start lilypond-windows.exe.
 Please check path and permissions.

 I didn't *actively* do anything to the path or permissions, and I even
 tried uninstalling and reinstalling both Frescobaldi and LilyPond,
 with no improvement.

 Where to I look to find the problem, and how can I fix it?  Holy Week
 is coming up, and I have some things I need to do!  Help!

 Thanks for a fantastic program.


I have realised that *if* you do not have LilyPond in your 'path' (see
my last email to you) and you need to add it, the instructions will be
slightly different depending if you are running Windows XP or Windows
7 - as things like file names and where settings are have changed.

What I would do because I forgot we had added this to our instructions
on teh website is to look here

http://lilypond.org/windows.html

See 'Running on the command line' section. This tells you how to check
and configure.

I do not know your technical ability (so sorry if I am patronizing you
- many of us on these lists take it for granted users know how to
configure these settings in Windows) to understand how to set a PATH
etc. and as I know you have a very limited internet connection so are
not permanently online, can you let me know if my last response is
helpful and if not which version of Windows you are using and I can
give you more detailed instructions in 'one go'


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Re: Combine \default rehearsal mark with another mark

2012-03-15 Thread James
Hello,

2012/3/15 Siska Ádám sa...@sadam.hu:
 Dear List,


 I'd like to put two rehearsal marks over the same barline. However, this 
 gives an error:

 \mark \markup{
   \center-align{
      \line{ \default }
      \line{ 8 }
   }
 } s4*8

 The error is: 'error: syntax error, unexpected \default'

 I also tried to access the value of \default, however, I couldn't find out 
 how to do that. The documentation says: 'The value to use is stored in the 
 property rehearsalMark', however, I didn't find any property like 
 RehearsalMark.rehearsalMark nor Score.rehearsalMark, or at least I didn't 
 find out how to access these in a \markup block.

 Do you have any suggestion for this?


http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Search?q=rehearsal+mark



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Re: wrong beaming

2012-03-15 Thread James
Hello,

On 15 March 2012 02:45, luis jure l...@internet.com.uy wrote:

 hello list,

 i have a problem with beaming when combining a sixteenth notes triplet
 with straight 16ths.

 without any kind of tweaks, the following code produces the output in the
 attached image:

 \relative c' {
 \time 2/4
 c16 c \times 2/3 { c8 c16 }
 \times 2/3 { c8 c16 } c16 c }

 as you see, lilypond behaves differently if the triplet is in the first
 part of the quarter note, or in the second. in both cases the beaming is
 wrong.

 i guess this is related to issues that have been discussed before. i tried
 both the latest stable (2.14.2) and the latest unstable or development
 version. the results are similar.

This actually worked in 2.12.3

So I have opened

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2408



 is there a simple tweak to get the correct output?


Use manual beaming?

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Re: tabloid papersize

2012-03-16 Thread James
Hello,

On 29 February 2012 18:05, Neil Thornock neilthorn...@gmail.com wrote:
 While we're at it, it would be nice to enable ledger (17x11) --
 noted in paper.scm but not included for some reason.

This and a few other sizes have been added and will be in the next
development release - 2.15.34 (I believe).

Thanks for taking the time to suggest this.

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Re: override Beam #'color = #red not applied to all beams

2012-03-16 Thread James
Ming

On 16 March 2012 13:07, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com wrote:
 try to use \override Beam #'color = #red seems that not all beams are
 becoming red.


Are you confusing 'beam' with 'flag'?

I cannot compile your ly file but the PDF shows me that one voice has
red stems and red beams but the non-beamed notes (the 16th notes) have
black 'flags'.

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Re: Combining lyrics lines

2012-03-18 Thread James
Jean-Charles,

On 18 March 2012 12:49, Jean-Charles Malahieude lily...@orange.fr wrote:
 Le 18/03/2012 12:38, James disait :

 Hello,


 On 18 March 2012 11:33, Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote:

 Le 17/03/2012 11:14, Reedmace Star disait :

 In the first line, Alice and Eve alternate strictly in singing, so their
 lyrics get collapsed:

   ALICE   EVE       ALICE   EVE
   maybe   that the  second  words are

 After the manual line break, Alice cuts off Eve with a bit of overlap.
 Their lyrics stay on different lines, which makes sense:

   EVE           ALICE
                 Shut up, you fool!
   ...and then I was like-




 I wished I had found it myself...

 Would be worth a selected snippet in NR 2.1.2 Techniques specific to
 lyrics, Placing lyrics vertically?

 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-03/msg00508.html


 I don't understand this request for a 'snippet', are you saying it
 already exists as a snippet and you want it in the NR or that you want
 a new snippet created *as well*?

 If it is the latter, and someone can give me a 'clear' explanation of
 what this snippet shows (so I can write a concise texidoc entry) I can
 arrange that, else if the snippet already exists tell me the name of
 it and I can add it very easily.


 Searching the LSR does not return it, and I think it is worth to have it in
 the NR.

 I would sort of call it a partcombine for lyrics: it often happens that a
 soloist shares a staff with a choir part (let's say the diva and the
 soprani) when they sing alternatively, or two characters like in Reedmace
 Star's example.  The fact is that Lily place /two/ lines of lyrics when the
 change appears on the same system.

I don't understand how Lyrics work in LilyPond or what your last
paragraph means (it is meaningless to me, sorry - I play trumpet, I
don't sing, so never need to read or use lyrics in a score)
I was hoping that you could give me a texidoc string I could simply
copy.paste into the example at

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-03/msg00508.html

Then I can create a snippet from that. I can't articulate it myself.

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Re: Frescobaldi

2012-03-19 Thread James
Peter,

On 19 March 2012 13:50, Peter Gentry peter.gen...@sunscales.co.uk wrote:
 I have recently converted from jedit to Frescobaldi and like what I find. In
 particulr FB can accept files on a netdrive almost. The problem I find is
 that the fonts for headers are not found the text ends up as little boxes or
 parts of boxes. When looking at Netdrive files FB doesn't indicate that it
 is using a temporary file as it does for files on the computer. Is there a
 simple fix for this?


Someone might be able to help (the frescobaldi developer reads these
lists), but Frescobaldi is its own piece of software and is nothing to
do with the LilyPond development in that regard.

http://frescobaldi.org/links

I have cc'd the Frescobaldi developer in case he (assuming no one else
can help) can answer you.

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Re: Fingering avoidance of accidentals depends on Fingering #'script-priority

2012-03-21 Thread James
Nick

On 19 March 2012 05:19, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote:
 In a chord with two accidentals, if I set the fingering script-priority to
 -99, the fingerings still avoid both accidentals, but if I set it to -100,
 each fingering indication is positioned without regard to the accidental on
 the other note. Is this related to
 https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2182, or soemthing else?

 \relative c' {
     \set fingeringOrientations = #'(left)
     fis-4 dis-21
     \override Fingering #'script-priority = #-99
     fis-4 dis-2
     \override Fingering #'script-priority = #-100
     fis-4 dis-2
 }


I've updated https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2182
with this new example.

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Re: lilypond-book - vertical space and font questions

2012-03-21 Thread James
Svetlana

2012/3/21 Svetlana eurid...@yandex.ru:
 Hello all!

 I try to combine latex text and lilypond scores. Lot of documentation read, 
 but there remain two issues, I can't solve.

 1) Is there any way to control vertical space between systems while using 
 lilypond-book?

Maybe I have missed something but I cannot see any of the other
spacing in your \paper {} block

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing-within-systems

I am not saying they will/will not work but we have a known issues and
warnings in teh current dev version of the Application Usage

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/usage/invoking-lilypond_002dbook

--snip--
Known issues and warnings

The \pageBreak command will not work within a \begin{lilypond} …
\end{lilypond} environment.

Many \paper block variables will also not work within a
\begin{lilypond} … \end{lilypond} environment. Use \newcommand with
\betweenLilyPondSystem in the preamble;

\newcommand{\betweenLilyPondSystem}[1]{\vspace{36mm}\linebreak}
--snip--

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Re: Error in documentation

2012-03-22 Thread James
Hello,

On 22 March 2012 19:09, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote:
 In the snippets documentation, the second of the coda symbols (beginning of
 the third stave of output) in the snippet
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/snippets/repeats#repeats-positioning-segno-and-coda-_0028with-line-break_0029
 is shifted to the left and only partly visible in the snippet output.

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2428

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Re: dynamic/beam/stem/tuplet number/tuplet number collisions

2012-03-24 Thread James
Hello,

On 24 March 2012 06:57, Jeffrey Trevino jeffrey.trevi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi there,

 I'm rendering some dense notation, and there are lots of collisions between
 beams, stems, dynamics, tuplet numbers, and tuplet brackets. I'd like to be
 sure I'm aware of best practices with two questions:

 1) What are the global actions I should take to keep this from happening
 upon render (I think there's something called padding for most of the
 grobs, according to the online documentation? Perhaps the order the things
 are engraved?)?

Yes you can use padding, however LilyPond should do most collision
avoidance out of the box. I'd also recommend making sure you are on at
least 2.14.2 - the latest stable and if possible try the latest dev
release (2.15.34) as there have been many improvements on layout since
then. If you are using 2.12.x you'd just be making more work for
yourself unnecessarily.

It is possible to have both dev and stable releases installed on a
system (with Windows, it is just a case of renaming the LilyPond dir
that is installed in 'Programs', ditto mac (just rename the .app) and
flick between the two types.

You don't give any tiny examples so it is hard to say if you want to
add 'padding' or not, and to what grob/glyph etc.

Give us a chance to 'see' your problem. Perhaps even just a small screenshot.


 2) Failing #1, what are the best ways to solve these problems by locally
 moving these things around via position overrides after I see my mangled
 output?

Yes again that is possible, but really, unless you are hitting known bugs

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list

It should just work(tm).

To be honest, I'd say these questions are too broad o give anything
other than 'possibly', 'maybe', 'it depends' or 'could do' answers,
and you'd do well to give us an 'idea' of specifics - without filling
the list with a hundred line .ly file.

I'd say the most common question we get from beginners about 'dense'
and 'colliding' things are either because of known bugs (which will
need overrides and tweaks) or because of incorrect usage of multiple
voices in the same staff.

For example NOT using explicit voices but trying to use  .. 
constructions or  //  constructions with \xxxUp \xxxDown type
commands peppered all over.

Sorry I cannot give you more explicit instructions, but if you find
yourself having to make more and more overrides starting out, you may
not as I think you are guessing, be 'thinking in LilyPondese'.

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Re: Question about missing accidentals, and banishing stems

2012-03-26 Thread James
Hello,

On 26 March 2012 17:05, Robert Schmaus robert.schm...@web.de wrote:
 Hi Michael,

 the whole music is defined in a single cadenza with manual barlines in
 between. so, from pov of lilypond, all the music is in one bar, thus,
 the second ees doesn't sport an accidental.

 Use ees! to force the accidental ...


I've added a Doc Enhancement request here

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2438

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Re: Self-contained Lilypond in a Dropbox folder for Windows users?

2012-03-27 Thread James
Hello,

On 27 March 2012 17:38, Michael Ellis michael.f.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been collaborating with some other members of my choral group who've
 decided to learn LilyPond (more converts, hooray!) to help with transcribing
 individual parts.  For the OS X users, it was very easy to set up a folder
 in Dropbox that included the latest LilyPond.app bundle so I don't have to
 troubleshoot installation and version issues on their individual machines.
  Works great so far.

 Now I'm getting inquiries from Windows users.   Is it possible to do the
 same thing for them, i.e. have a LilyPond Windows install self-contained in
 a Dropbox folder that they can just run with no other installation effort?
  I really want to avoid spending time figuring out why things aren't working
 in Vista :-(

All my LilyPond files reside in a DropBox folder (if not the binary
itself) - this means no matter what machine I am on
(Linux/Mac/Windows) I can easily access all my files.

It works well, although on a slow network connection it can, depending
on the size of the .ly file and the resulting output - slow down the
compilation, perhaps by a few seconds my scores rarely go more than 8
pages. Because you are creating a few temp files (.ps for instance)
that then get deleted, Dropbox will still replicate the creation and
then replciate the deletion. However when I am doing lots of changes
you can 'pause' syncing very easily and then when you are all done and
finished, just resume sync and dropbox updates the most current files.

I cannot speak about Vista but Windows 7 works great.

Installing LilyPond in a dropbox folder is no different to say
installing it on the 'd' drive. What I am not sure of though is

You *might* need to set your path (or at least check it is set
properly) so that LilyPond can run

http://lilypond.org/windows.html

See 'running on the command line' half way down.



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Re: Self-contained Lilypond in a Dropbox folder for Windows users?

2012-03-27 Thread James
Michael,

On 27 March 2012 18:08, Michael Ellis michael.f.el...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cheers,
 Mike


 On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:01 PM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote:



 I cannot speak about Vista but Windows 7 works great.

 Installing LilyPond in a dropbox folder is no different to say
 installing it on the 'd' drive. What I am not sure of though is

 You *might* need to set your path (or at least check it is set
 properly) so that LilyPond can run

 http://lilypond.org/windows.html

 See 'running on the command line' half way down.


 Thanks, James.  That's the kind of issue that scares me.  Trying to explain
 to someone who's got no concept of 'path' how to append to it can eat an
 amazing amount of time.  Guess I'll just have to see how it goes ...

I'm afraid that we have found cases where the windows installer simply
doesn't add the path at all. I believe that if you incorporate the
latests version Frescobaldi (and I would certainly recommend that as a
'front end' for Windows users) you can configure it there in the
preferences.

Install LilyPond
Install Frescobaldi
use Frescobaldi's preferences to make sure the LilyPond exe is being
found, if not point to it using Frescobaldis easy-to-use
windows-like-browse-to-find-me GUI and click ok.

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Re: scores produced with lilypond

2012-03-29 Thread James
Thomas,

On 28 March 2012 19:47, Thoams Griffin tgriffin94...@gmail.com wrote:
 A modern edition of the serenata Erminia by Alessandro Scarlatti, edited by
 Thomas Griffin using Lilypond, is now available from the Istituto Italian per 
 la
 Storia della Musica. The score was performed on 22 October 2010 in the 
 Galleria
 of the Palazzo Zevallos Stigliano, Naples, Italy. Details of this and other
 scores by Scarlatti produced with Lilypond can be found at
 http://www.ascarflatti2010.net

We have two spots on the LilyPond webpage


http://lilypond.org/reviews.html

http://lilypond.org/productions.html

Either of which, if you don't mind (and perhaps if you have a quote,
and a 'title' (composer, lead something or other)) then we could use
this to forward the cause by adding a link or two.

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Re: First measure partial with only grace notes

2012-03-29 Thread James
Hello,

On 29 March 2012 10:00, Silvio ARDITO silvioard...@gmail.com wrote:
 The first ( or better the zero ) measure contains only the following grace
 notes:

 grace { d''16-2 [e'' fis''] }

 I tried with \partial but I always got errors.
 the bad solution is:

 ...
 \time 4/4
 ...
 \set Score.currentBarNumber = #0
 s2 \afterGrace s2 { d''16-2 [e'' fis''] } |
                                    % zero measure
 \sd g''-5 d''-2 bes'-18 d'' bes'4. g'' d'' bes'4.. ( a''-5 es''-2
 c''-116 ) |  % 1
 ...

 Please , I need an help.

Then just look in the manual

;)

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/special-rhythmic-concerns#index-grace-notes-1

See known issues and warnings.


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Re: vertical spacing between systems

2012-03-30 Thread James
Hello,

On 29 March 2012 16:17, Gagi Petrovic gagig...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear LilyPond users, the last few days I've been trying some vertical
 spacing (in v2.14.2) and somehow I can't seem to understand the mechanics of
 the spacing between systems as explained here.

This is 2.12 documentation.

Spacing has changed *significantly* with 2.14.x

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/vertical-spacing

Have a read through here see if this helps.

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Re: \repeat percent {} breaking \drummode context

2012-03-30 Thread James
Hello,

On 30 March 2012 17:48, Eluze elu...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi Uwe

 in the snippet you sent \new DrumStaff = main  is never closed!


That is just the email program processing '' as a quote. In gmail
you will see '||'.

This happens all the time.

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Re: \repeat percent {} breaking \drummode context

2012-03-30 Thread James
Hello,

On 30 March 2012 17:05, Uwe Falke fa...@horst.in-chemnitz.de wrote:
 Trying to save some space and simplifying the scores,
 but either I am doing something wrong / odd, or there is a bug.
 Everything following the \repeat percent {} in the example below is set to
 separate staffs with clefs, i.e. nit in drummode anymore.
 Yep, I know my version is quite outdated but as I have not found any
 mentioning of such a behaviour in the web I might doing it wrong and it has
 nothing to do with the version.

This works properly in 2.14.x and 2.15.x (see attached - this is the
output from both)

I'd suggest trying those versions.

james
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Re: midi 2 wave (Mac OS X)

2012-03-31 Thread James
Alberto,

2012/3/31 Alberto Simões al...@alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt:
 Hello, Friends

 Quicktime plays midi, but too quiet.
 I was looking for some other application that plays midi, or a way to export
 quality wave fro Midi.

 On old times, when I used linux, I used timidity++ for that.
 What's the current solution?

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-03/msg00030.html

This was discussed a few weeks back as well.

James

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Re: Another tricky music situation. This time: Repeat Nightmare with alternative endings.

2012-04-05 Thread James
Hello,

On 5 April 2012 15:20, Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote:
 Hello list,

 Maybe you have an opinion about this musical situation, described here:
 http://www.nilsgey.de/2012/04/05/nightmare-repeats/

 In my eyes it should be forbidden. The real cause it that alternative
 endings use the same glyph as boundary as repeats: the repeat close
 barline. Better would be a glyph that is explicitely and only for the
 first/second ending bracket, but well.. we don't got that over the
 last few hundred years.

better would be to write out in full, it's not like we need to worry
about the cost of parchment is it ;)

Why muck about like this in the first place?

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Re: Another tricky music situation. This time: Repeat Nightmare with alternative endings.

2012-04-05 Thread James
Hello,

On 5 April 2012 15:42, Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote:
 Am Thu, 5 Apr 2012 15:31:48 +0100
 schrieb James pkx1...@gmail.com:

 Hello,

 On 5 April 2012 15:20, Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote:
  Hello list,
 
  Maybe you have an opinion about this musical situation, described
  here: http://www.nilsgey.de/2012/04/05/nightmare-repeats/
 
  In my eyes it should be forbidden. The real cause it that
  alternative endings use the same glyph as boundary as repeats: the
  repeat close barline. Better would be a glyph that is explicitely
  and only for the first/second ending bracket, but well.. we don't
  got that over the last few hundred years.

 better would be to write out in full, it's not like we need to worry
 about the cost of parchment is it ;)

 Why muck about like this in the first place?

 James


 I is somehow my (future) Job as music theorist to think about these
 problems. At least I want to think about it.

 Writing your music down in a correct way helps the intpreter to play
 better and the composer to think better.

 There are many strange and inconsequent things in music notation. If
 you know them you can avoid them and make your music or score clearer.
 This is where Lilypond comes in because I use it to create scores :)

Isn't this just the old adage, 'Just because we can, doesn't mean we
should'. I cannot think what problem this is solving. or how it is
adding to the music in any way at all.

Otherwise you simply add a note saying to go back to repeat X instead of Y.

I think your example is far too short to get the point across.

Maybe there could be some piece where you start at A got Z repeat back
to B got to Y repeat back to C and so on, in ever decreasing
'circles', that may be something a 'modern' composer might do. Or even
me come to think of it. :)

But then you'd just label your repeat bars.

regards

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Re: Rehearsal Mark Shown Above Tempo

2012-04-06 Thread James
Hello,

On 6 April 2012 10:50, lesmondo lesmo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm using rehearsal marks for each section of my piece, for example
 Introduction' Section One etc. For the first bar, the mark appears above
 the tempo, how can I move to the same vertical position as the rest of the
 marks?

 Here's an example.

Could you have made a tiny example (why do we need a \paper block to see this) ?

http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html

Anyway, here are some tweaks you can do with Rehearsal marks

http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Search?q=rehearsal+mark

else don't think of them as rehearsal marks but just normal \markups
and use padding to move them up and down as you need.

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/formatting-text#text-alignment

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Re: New LilyPond scores -- video editing software

2012-04-06 Thread James
Hello,

On 6 April 2012 16:58, PMA peterarmstr...@aya.yale.edu wrote:
 Hi List.

 I'm planning similar YouTube entries, i.e., music
 performances sync'd with their score-page turns.

 But this will be a first for me, and I see a hefty
 bunch of (Linux) softwares for video editing.

 If any of you has a favorite among those options
 (or among how-to docs), I'd appreciate hearing.

Also see

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=965

Not quite as slick as some methods, but anyway..

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Re: \markup beneath a fermata?

2012-04-06 Thread James
Hello,

On 6 April 2012 11:47, Father Gordon Gilbert fatherg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 In the following (last note in my bass clef), I'd like the \markup to
 appear *below* the \fermata, for obvious reasons.  What's the best way
 to accomplish this?

 \clef F c,2._\fermata _\markup \small \italic {(Blue Bk 139)}


http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/learning/outside_002dstaff-objects

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Re: non-standard mensural clef

2012-04-07 Thread James
Hello,

On 7 April 2012 15:57, Wasil Sergejczyk szelga@gmail.com wrote:
 i'm trying to re-create this hymn and i've stumbled upon the clef(s) i 
 didn't
 find in lilypond documentation and anywhere on the Internet. does anybody know
 what's this and how can i do it in lilypond?
 here's the scan:
 http://i35.fastpic.ru/big/2012/0407/b2/0d1272c45e5e8c98575c8fa1838c5ab2.png
 it's from Manvale choricanum ab utriusque sexus choricistis concupitum by
 Casoni, Giovanni Agostino (1649).

I'm absolutely no expert but looks sort of petrucci to me

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/the-feta-font#petrucci-glyphs

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Re: \cadenzaOn + accidental-style not working

2012-04-08 Thread James
Hello,

On 8 April 2012 10:36, Wasil Sergejczyk szelga@gmail.com wrote:
 when i set \cadenzaOn, set-accidental-style has no effect. do i use it
 correctly? is it a bug or a feature? are there any workarounds?

Remember when you set a \cadenzaOn it is like one giant *single*
measure - even if you put in \bar |, until *after* cadenzaOff, so
you have to manually set your Accidentals.

Hope that helps.

James



 \version 2.15.36
 \include italiano.ly
 global = {
 \cadenzaOn
 \key do \major
 \autoBeamOff
 \pointAndClickOff
 \override Staff.NoteHead #'style = #'altdefault
 #(set-accidental-style 'forget)
 }
 melody = {
 \global
 \clef alto
 \transpose do do' {
 do re mi fa sol la sib do' sib
 }
 }
 \score {
 
 \new Staff { \melody }
 
 \layout {
 %indent = 0
 \context {
 \Staff
 \remove Time_signature_engraver
 }
 \context {
 \Score
 \override BarNumber #'transparent = ##t
 }
 }

 thanks in advance.
 --
 Best regards.

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Re: musicxml2ly

2012-04-08 Thread James
Hello,

On 8 April 2012 17:47, Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl wrote:
...
 Or are many
 problems already known?

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list?can=2q=musicxmlsort=prioritycolspec=IDx=typey=prioritymode=gridcells=tiles

There is also this recent - seemingly unfinished patch

http://codereview.appspot.com/5697059/

And see

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2011-12/msg00025.html

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-11/msg00280.html

This will give you an idea of the current issues and the effort still required.

James

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Re: Multimeasure rests over a cadenza

2012-04-09 Thread James
Hello,

On 9 April 2012 11:03, Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Am 9. April 2012 04:26 schrieb James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com:
 At Sun, 8 Apr 2012 09:39:13 -0500,
 David Nalesnik wrote:
 Hi James,
 Possibly the following thread will be useful to you:
  http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg68492.html

 Thanks, this is a lot closer. (By the way, it seems that mail-archive is on 
 the wrong side of the Great Firewall of China -- not a big deal, but it did 
 make it less convenient to access the link. Speaking just for myself, I'd 
 prefer links to gmane or nabble archives.)

 It's closer -- I'm now getting bar check failures only at the ends of the 
 two cadenzas, where I think I was getting more of them before. But, it's 
 still failing and the multi-measure rests are drawn in the wrong place.

 So, a more illustrative example, using actual notes from my piece and 
 replicating the context (one bar of cadenza, one metered bar, and another 
 bar of cadenza).

 It looks to me like time advances the correct number of beats, but LP 
 doesn't recognize that it should roll over to the next bar at that point. 
 I'm guessing that for each cadenza + following-bar pair, where there should 
 be two full-bar rests, only one is being drawn (probably the first one, for 
 the cadenza) and the other one is being dropped because of the bar check 
 failure. Then it draws the single full-bar rest in the middle of the span 
 for /both/ bars.

 It doesn't help to include an explicit \bar | after the \cadenzaToMusic 
 calls.

 LP output. For debugging I restored the (format...) call, which shows that 
 the duration of both cadenzas is being calculated correctly.

 Hi James,

 the cadenzaToMusic-function _replaces_ \cadenzaOn and \cadenzaOff.
 If you delete these commands it works and there is no need for manual bars:

Thanks Thomas, I have added this snippet to the LilyPond Snippet
Repository - awaiting approval.

James

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Re: System in different colors

2012-04-10 Thread James
Hello,

On 10 April 2012 10:41, uunail uwena...@kabelmail.de wrote:

 Hi everybody

 Using this wonderful tool I again have a problem.

 I want to use different colors in a piece to illustrate that they are played
 by different people (and not using multiple systems).

 The snippet below works almost fine with only one little thing that I want
 to have changed:

 \version 2.14.2
 #(set-global-staff-size 18.65)

 \header {
        title = System in different colors
 }

 \language deutsch

 staffVoice = \new Staff {
        \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t
        \time 2/2
        \key f \major
        \clef treble
        \tempo 2=78
        \relative c' {
        \context Voice {
                \override Staff.Clef #'color = #red
                \override Staff.TimeSignature #'color = #red
                \override Staff.KeySignature #'color = #red
                \override NoteHead #'color = #red
                \override Staff.StaffSymbol #'color = #red
                \override Stem #'color = #red
                \override DynamicText #'color = #red
                \override Tie #'color = #red
                \override TextScript #'color = #red
                \override Staff.BarLine #'color = #red
                \override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color = #red
                \partial 4*3
                d' b4^\markup{ \larger {Part 1}}_\f  c a
                f4
                \stopStaff
        }
        \context Voice = melodyVoi {
            \dynamicUp
 %            \partial 4*3
            \startStaff
            \revert Staff.Clef #'color
            \revert Staff.KeySignature #'color
            \revert Staff.BarLine #'color
            \revert Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color
            \revert Staff.StaffSymbol #'color
            \revert NoteHead #'color
            \revert Stem #'color
            \revert Tie #'color
            \revert DynamicText #'color
            c4\(_\mf h c\)
            \bar ||
            f c f c f c f c
            f c f c f c f c
            f c f c f c f c
        }
        \context Voice = melodyRep {
            f1 R1
            \bar |.
            \stopStaff
        }
        \context Voice = interlude {
                \startStaff
                \override Staff.VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t
                \override SystemStartBar #'color = #black
                \override Staff.StaffSymbol #'color = #red
                \override NoteHead #'color = #red
                \override Stem #'color = #red
                \override DynamicText #'color = #red
                \override Tie #'color = #red
                \override TextScript #'color = #red
                \override Accidental #'color = #red
                \override Rest #'color = #red
                \override Staff.BarLine #'color = #red
                \override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color = #red
                f4^\markup { \larger {Part 3 }} e f g
                c,4 r h f' g r
                \bar ||
        }
  }
 }



 \score {
        \staffVoice
        \layout {}
        }

 \paper {}

 The double bar in front of part 3 is printed in red but I want to have it in
 black as it belongs to part 2.

Can't you just use \once \override and then pick the colour you want?

James

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Re: Avoiding tie/prall collision

2012-04-11 Thread James
Hello,

2012/4/11 Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net:
 Am 10.04.2012 08:37, schrieb Janek Warchoł:

 On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Helge Krusehelge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net
...


 Honestly, I used the 2.13 documentation. Now I downloaded the 2.14
 documentation. Searching for stemDown\Up\Neutral I didn't find any hint to
 favor voiceOne/Two/Three. But I did not read thorough 763 pages. Which
 section are you referring?

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/direction-and-placement

It was added middle of March.

James

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Re: more space between systems?

2012-04-11 Thread James
Erik,

On 11 April 2012 07:19, eriksbike eriksb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I'm having some trouble creating more space between systems.

 I have tried increasing the system-system-spacing #'minimum-distance and
 system-system-spacing #'padding variables. But when I compile I receive the
 message warning: cannot fit music on page: ragged-spacing was requested,
 but page was compressed and the systems are very tightly packed on the
 page.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Well first make sure you are on at least version 2.14.x not 2.12 as
there are many significant improvements/changes to system spacing.

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing-within-systems

Then if this doesn't help, you'd need to give a *brief* example of the
spacing code you are using.

James

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Re: node head positions

2012-04-11 Thread James
Hello,

On 11 April 2012 09:43, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote:
 Am 11.04.2012 00:28, schrieb Tim Roberts:

 Huang wrote:

 Yes, I am looking for a way to highlight notes while playing MIDI. I
 will definitely check Frescobaldi to see how it works. I need to
 understand how Lily generates these notes and find out their positions.

 I just want to caution you about how difficult this task will be.  The
 PDF output does contain a link for each note that tells you where, in
 the original LilyPond input file, that note or chord originated.  It
 does NOT tell you the note's pitch or duration, and that information is
 not trivially derivable from the original source, either.  There's no
 good way to line up the PDF with the MIDI.

 But there _have_ been efforts in such directions, isn't it?
 I recall someone having a  (drum?) score doing exactly this. He used the SVG
 output IIRC


http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-05/msg00331.html

You may need to contact Mike directly.

james

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Re: Avoiding tie/prall collision

2012-04-11 Thread James
Hello,

On 11 April 2012 17:53, Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net wrote:
 Am 11.04.2012 09:36, schrieb James:

 2012/4/11 Helge Krusehelge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net:

 Honestly, I used the 2.13 documentation. Now I downloaded the 2.14
 documentation. Searching for stemDown\Up\Neutral I didn't find any hint
 to
 favor voiceOne/Two/Three. But I did not read thorough 763 pages. Which
 section are you referring?



 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/direction-and-placement

 It was added middle of March.

 Yes, unfortunately you can't find it in the German translation, what is
 displayed by default. But English is also fine for me. Thank you for this
 pointer. Do you think I should use the v2.15 docs for Lilypond 2.14? The
 release candidate for Lilypond 2.16 is already announced and so it might be
 sensible to look forward.

More or less - there may be some differences, some of the examples in
the Notation Reference that explicitly show  '\relative c' (I think)
are different in 2.14 than 2.15 and won't apply for 2.14 - this was
because of a syntax change internally, it doesn't affect the code you
have in your .ly file (or shouldn't) but might if you copied and
pasted the examples in your .ly file. There may have been some more
subtle changes but I would suggest that for 98.75354887% of your work,
the 2.15 docs should be ok. I use them all the time for my 2.14.2
install and have not had any problems.

James

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Re: Avoiding tie/prall collision

2012-04-11 Thread James
Hello,

On 11 April 2012 17:53, Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net wrote:
 Am 11.04.2012 09:36, schrieb James:

 2012/4/11 Helge Krusehelge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net:

 Honestly, I used the 2.13 documentation. Now I downloaded the 2.14
 documentation. Searching for stemDown\Up\Neutral I didn't find any hint
 to
 favor voiceOne/Two/Three. But I did not read thorough 763 pages. Which
 section are you referring?



 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/direction-and-placement

 It was added middle of March.

 Yes, unfortunately you can't find it in the German translation, what is
 displayed by default. But English is also fine for me.

Well it requires that any changes I do in the English document are
picked up and translated by the trasnaltors. The assumption is that
those that do the German Translating see my checkins and make the same
changes in the german doc. They do for the Spanish and French, but I
think that is simply because the two or three that do that are always
looking for it.

Virtually all the checkins I do are for doc only and so the
translators can easily see what I have done and if they need to make
the changes in their docs too.

But the translations are handled separately from the English
documents, so it is very likely the different translations are not
always consistent.

Patches are always welcome :) often I see the German translation gets
'left behind' compared to the Spanish, French and Japanese versions.

James

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Re: Avoiding tie/prall collision

2012-04-11 Thread James
Helge,

On 11 April 2012 13:02, Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net wrote:
 Am 11.04.2012 19:24, schrieb James:

 Well it requires that any changes I do in the English document are
 picked up and translated by the trasnaltors. The assumption is that
 those that do the German Translating see my checkins and make the same
 changes in the german doc. They do for the Spanish and French, but I
 think that is simply because the two or three that do that are always
 looking for it.

 Virtually all the checkins I do are for doc only and so the
 translators can easily see what I have done and if they need to make
 the changes in their docs too.

 But the translations are handled separately from the English
 documents, so it is very likely the different translations are not
 always consistent.

 Patches are always welcome :) often I see the German translation gets
 'left behind' compared to the Spanish, French and Japanese versions.


 The two sentences in German would be something like this:

 In mehrstimmiger Musik ist es im Allgemeinen besser, die Stimme explizit mit
 voice auszuwählen anstatt die Ausrichtung einzelner Objekte zu ändern. Für
 weitere Informationen siehe: Multiple voices.

 But this may differ in style from the original translators. I am not in the
 team yet. I don't know if there is a need for additional translation
 support. Further I don't know how to see this checkins. Does it make sense
 to learn how to see this and to add annotations/additions? I could give it a
 try. Or did I missed just one cycle?


http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/translating-the-documentation.html

Start here.


James

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Re: Flying ties

2012-04-13 Thread James
James

On 13 April 2012 16:30, James Worlton jworl...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've found some odd tie behavior--not sure if it's known currently.
 Sorry, currently I can't test whether it also happens in earlier
 versions.

 The following code creates a flying tie situation around the upper
 and lower notes of the chord, in other words the ties lie far outside
 the staff. This happens probably because of the accidentals on the new
 line--if you take the \key out, removing the accidentals, the ties
 stay close to the notes:

 \version 2.15.36
 \score {
  \new Staff {
    \relative a' {
      \key des \major
      a d f1~ \break
      q1
    }
  }
 }

 James Worlton


http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=379

is one of many tie issues

or if not this one

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list?can=2q=tiescolspec=ID+Type+Status+Stars+Owner+Patch+Needs+Summarycells=tiles

one of these will probably be this.

It's also an area on our Google Summer of Code page

http://lilypond.org/gsoc.html

Not that 'helps' you.

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Re: hideNotes in tablature

2012-04-14 Thread James
Federico,

On 14 April 2012 10:57, Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I started using version 2.13.56 and I realized that this bug seems fixed:
 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1459

 As hideNotes/unHideNotes work fine in TabStaff now, I'm thinking that it
 would be nice to add a TabNoteHead override/revert in their definitions in
 property-init.ly

 Two years ago Marc expressed some concern about including TabNoteHead inside
 hideNotes/unHideNotes, because unHideNotes reverts the transparency of
 objects (such as stems and dots) that shouldn't be displayed in TabStaff:
 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-01/msg00634.html

 I've made some tests and I think that there's no reason for such a concern.
 Everything looks fine to me (see the attached snippet).
 Sure, I'm missing something :)

 I believe that we don't need a specific command for hiding TabNoteHead.
 I always use Staff and TabStaff: both should display (or hide) the same
 music, I can't imagine a situation where I'd like to hide a note in Staff
 and not in TabStaff.

 What do you think about it?

I think 'user' isn't the email list you really need to send this to
but dev. Also I see have already updated the Tracker.

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Re: extra repeat opening bar (related to \hideNotes?)

2012-04-14 Thread James
Hello,

On 14 April 2012 12:13, Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi LilyPonders,

 unfortunately I'm not able to create a minimal example which reproduces the
 problem. Find attached a simplified version of my file.

So are you _really_ saying if you remove a *single* line from your
\global settings the problem goes away? For instance if were to remove
the \key d \major line or the \time 4/4 line the problem 'goes away'?

Is it that you cannot produce or cannot be bothered to try?

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Re: hideNotes in tablature

2012-04-14 Thread James
Hello,

On 14 April 2012 15:47, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote:
 Am 14.04.2012 11:57, schrieb Federico Bruni:

 Hi,

 I started using version 2.13.56 and I realized that this bug seems fixed:
 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1459

I'll verify that if no one else has. I am building a latest version at
the moment of 2.15.x

However reading the tracker again just now, are the comments from this
morning a 'new' issue or an 'enhancement' if so, we need a new
tracker.

Could Federico or Marc clarify please?

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Re: larger rehearsal marks

2012-04-14 Thread James
Hello,

On 14 April 2012 20:26, Mogens Lemvig Hansen mog...@kayju.com wrote:
 How do I make (just) the rehearsal marks larger?

Just add an appropriate extra font markup in your \mark command

\mark \markup { \huge F }

See also

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/formatting-text#selecting-font-and-font-size

For more examples on how to change the font size in a \markup.

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Re: larger rehearsal marks

2012-04-14 Thread James
Hello,

On 14 April 2012 21:24, Mogens Lemvig Hansen mog...@kayju.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 Responses so far indicate that I wasn't clear.  Again,
 I would like to have larger rehearsal marks.
 With explicit markup, it is easy,
  \mark \markup { \huge F }

 but how do I do it with the default marks,
  \mark \default
 ?

As Keiren suggested

Stick this in your \score.

\override Score.RehearsalMark #'font-size = #5

(or whatever)

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Re: hideNotes in tablature

2012-04-15 Thread James
Hello,

On 15 April 2012 07:13, Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Il 14/04/2012 21:09, James ha scritto:

 Hello,

 On 14 April 2012 15:47, Marc Hohlm...@hohlart.de  wrote:

 Am 14.04.2012 11:57, schrieb Federico Bruni:


 Hi,

 I started using version 2.13.56 and I realized that this bug seems
 fixed:
 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1459


 I'll verify that if no one else has. I am building a latest version at
 the moment of 2.15.x


 I've tested it now on latest version of lilypond/translation branch.
 It works fine.

Right so Issue 1459 is fixed?



 However reading the tracker again just now, are the comments from this
 morning a 'new' issue or an 'enhancement' if so, we need a new
 tracker.

 Could Federico or Marc clarify please?


 It's an enhancement, which has already been discussed before (see links I
 pasted in the tracker) but never recorded in the tracker.

You don't really make it easy for the bug squad - who are generally
non-technical people who have enough to do without having to pick
apart/read through long threads, threads I might add that have never
been reported to the bug list (or dev list - that was me).

Federico, it seems you have the ability (and knowledge) to create a
tracker yourself so I suggest that if issue 1459 is fixed you change
the label to fixed - someone else will verify -  and then create a new
tracker for the enhancement - whatever it is. Else whoever comes back
to the old tracker has to puzzle their way through and often this puts
people off (unless you yourself are going to work and create the
patch).


 If the change is accepted, the following snippet should be removed (I
 think):
 http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=633

Add this to the same (new?) Tracker as well.

We're desperately trying to make it as easy as possible for the bug
squad (and developers) to workout what a tracker is for and if/when it
is fixed and more importantly how to know what they are looking at.

I hope you understand.

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Re: advanced (?) instrumentname setting

2012-04-15 Thread James
Gagi,

On 15 April 2012 12:15, Gagi Petrovic gagig...@gmail.com wrote:
 oops, misclicked on send. Sorry.

 I'm looking for something like this, where the --- are the three lines
 of my percussive staff:

 e.  
 m. 
 c.  

 This is quite common in percussive notation, that's why I find it odd I
 can't seem to find a way of doing this. Should be very simple, I'd think.

Unless I am mistaking what you are trying to do, the best approach
would be possibly to use a staff group, such that each '-' in your
example is a system of music and then you can add an instrument name
(as you would normally) for each instance.

http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/writing-parts#instrument-names

I don't use 'drumstaff' personally but I guess that your example would
just be three of those each with their own instrument name all held
together in a 'staff group'.

Does that make sense?

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Re: parenthesize a dotted note

2012-04-15 Thread James
Hello,

On 15 April 2012 15:37, Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Il 15/04/2012 16:26, Paolo Prete ha scritto:

 has this bug been fixed in lilypond 2.15.xx ?


 http://old.nabble.com/Fix-155%3A-parentheses-include-accidentals-and-dots.-(issue-5047048)-td32485933.html


 in the tracker it's labeled as patch-abandoned:
 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=155

There are also a variety of snippets if you need a solution

http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Search?q=parentheses

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Re: advanced (?) instrumentname setting

2012-04-16 Thread James
Hello,

On 16 April 2012 09:13, Gagi Petrovic gagig...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's a clever idea James, thank you.

 Although I have to say for such a simple thing I find it a waste of the
 extra time I will have in creating the notes for the one percussion player.
 For example: if I want him to make a tremolo movement from the center of a
 gong towards the edge, I'd have to write c4:32 s2 in the lower stave, s4
 c4:32 s4 in middle and s2 c4:32 in the upper stave.. instead of just putting
 it in one stave.

Well yes that is true, I'm not a percussionist so am not sure what the
differences between 'normal' notes and percussion notation is that
makes this any less painful. but if you were doing ANY composition
with multiple 'voices' (which is what you seem to be doing here) you'd
have to do that anyway right?

The only other thing I can suggest is using the columnar option with
instrument names but again I am not sure if that is just as fiddly
with instrument names.


 So my conclusion is that what I'm aiming for isn't yet implemented in
 LilyPond. Where to can I write proposals for relevant new ideas for
 improving LilyPond?

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list

or send a nice enhancement request to

http://lilypond.org/bug-reports.html

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