HOWTO define a network printer to Linux S/390 ?
I'm running SuSE Linux zSLES7 in a LPAR of a z900 machine with Kernel 2.4.17. I have tried to define a network printer to the BSD spooling system and as a newbie with no success. The printer, I have, is an LEXMARK Optra S1855 and I have tried the following definition in /etc/printcap remote|lp1|BH0D lp:\ :lp=:\ :rm=PRT1.huk-domain.de:\ :rp=raw:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/BH0D-lp:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/BH0D-lp/log:\ :af=/var/sppol/lpd/BH0D-lp/acct:\ :ar:bk:mx#0:\ :tr=:c1:sh: The lpd daemon is up and running. I put a job to the printer with lpr -Premote /etc/fstab. Doing a lpc status , I see the following: remote: queuing is enabled printing is enabled 1 entry in spool area no daemon present . Also I did a PING to BH0D (the name of the Printer) to see the full name of the printer it's PRT1.huk-domain.de and it's TCP/IP address. It seems that something is missing. The SuSE support says simply: Define the remote printer with YAST. Has anyone done similiar things or knows a HOWTO ? Any suggestions appreciated. N.B. Or should I try CUPS or SAMBA. Regards Harald Seifert Informatik-Systemprogrammierung HUK Coburg Bahnhofsplatz 96444 Coburg Phone +049 (0)9561-961787 Fax+049 (0)9561-963671 Mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Seifert;Harald FN:Seifert, Harald ORG:HUK-COBURG;Abteilung IT TITLE: NOTE: TEL;WORK;VOICE:09561 96-1787 TEL;WORK;FAX:09561 96-3671 ADR;WORK:;;Bahnhofsplatz;Coburg; ;96444 EMAIL;OREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] END:VCARD
HOW define another OSA Interface ?
I have zSLES7 running on in a LPAR of a zSeries 900, Kernel 2.4.17. I'm using OSA GbE and have one Interface up and running defined like this one /etc/chandev noauto;qeth0,0x0010,0x0011,0x0012;addparms,0x10,portname:OSAEG06 As SuSE states other definitions can be added like this one: noauto;qeth1,0x0020,0x0021,0x0022;addparms,0x10,portname:OSAEG07 noauto;qeth2,0x0030,0x0031,0x0032;addparms,0x10,portname:OSAEG08 noauto;qeth3,0x0040,0x0041,0x0042;addparms,0x10,portname:OSAEG09 . Then I have issued an rcchandev reload and this worked. A cat /proc/chandev shows that everything is fine. Now I have used YAST to define the eth1,eth2,eth3 IP-Interfaces. I did an actviavtion inside YAST. SuSEConfig was running; but ifconfig shows eth1-et3 not active. Now I tried a rcnetwork restart command and Linux didnot bring the network up again. Only HMC console was available after that. So my problem is, how to activate the interfaces correctly. Or did I miss something ? Or should I try ifconfig. Regards Harald Seifert Informatik-Systemprogrammierung HUK Coburg Bahnhofsplatz 96444 Coburg Phone +049 (0)9561-961787 Fax+049 (0)9561-963671 Mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Seifert;Harald FN:Seifert, Harald ORG:HUK-COBURG;Abteilung IT TITLE: NOTE: TEL;WORK;VOICE:09561 96-1787 TEL;WORK;FAX:09561 96-3671 ADR;WORK:;;Bahnhofsplatz;Coburg; ;96444 EMAIL;OREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] END:VCARD
Re: HOW define another OSA Interface ?
Harald, Please look into the /etc/modules.conf file and check if you have got the following aliases defined: alias eth0qeth alias eth1qeth alias eth2qeth alias eth3qeth Ronald van der Laan
Re: HOW define another OSA Interface ?
Should be 'add_parms' WBR, Sergey Seifert, Harald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17.12.2002 13:44 Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:HOW define another OSA Interface ? I have zSLES7 running on in a LPAR of a zSeries 900, Kernel 2.4.17. I'm using OSA GbE and have one Interface up and running defined like this one /etc/chandev noauto;qeth0,0x0010,0x0011,0x0012;addparms,0x10,portname:OSAEG06 As SuSE states other definitions can be added like this one: noauto;qeth1,0x0020,0x0021,0x0022;addparms,0x10,portname:OSAEG07 noauto;qeth2,0x0030,0x0031,0x0032;addparms,0x10,portname:OSAEG08 noauto;qeth3,0x0040,0x0041,0x0042;addparms,0x10,portname:OSAEG09 . Then I have issued an rcchandev reload and this worked. A cat /proc/chandev shows that everything is fine. Now I have used YAST to define the eth1,eth2,eth3 IP-Interfaces. I did an actviavtion inside YAST. SuSEConfig was running; but ifconfig shows eth1-et3 not active. Now I tried a rcnetwork restart command and Linux didnot bring the network up again. Only HMC console was available after that. So my problem is, how to activate the interfaces correctly. Or did I miss something ? Or should I try ifconfig. Regards Harald Seifert Informatik-Systemprogrammierung HUK Coburg Bahnhofsplatz 96444 Coburg Phone +049 (0)9561-961787 Fax +049 (0)9561-963671 Mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seifert, Harald.vcf Description: Binary data STG62835 Description: Binary data
Linux on the Mainframe BOF at LinuxWorld, NYC, Jan 30, 2003
Hi list, I've helped organize a Linux on the Mainframe BOF at LinuxWorld, NYC, Thursday Jan 30, 2003 at 5:30. Here's the abstract: The mainframe, IBM e-server zSeries or S/390, is getting more recognition as a viable Linux platform allowing Linux to run both under z/VM and in LPARs. In many organizations, it is helping Linux to become accepted in the enterprise. This BOF session will bring together professionals using Linux on the mainframe. Representatives from IBM, SuSE Linux and Red Hat Linux will be present (of course other companies are welcome) to discuss and answer questions from a financial, business, and techncial perspective. The Web page for the conference is http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/linuxworldny03/V33/index.cvn and for the BOFs at http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/linuxworldny03/V33/index.cvn?id=10019p_navID=16 We'll do questionnaires, have a few opening statements and then open the floor for discussion. If you're going to be there, come by on Thursday evening for a relaxed, open discussion. Hope to see you there. -Mike MacIsaac, IBM [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845) 433-7061 Linux will be to operating systems what TCP/IP is to networking - Dr. Irving Wladawsky-Berger, IBM
Re: sna-linux
Mitchell McKenna wrote: sna-linux - where art thou ? IBM has a sna for linux PRPQ (CS/Linux = Communications Server for Linux), but currently only for intel-32bit: http://www.ibm.com/software/network/commserver There is an open source project which is supposed to work on zSeries linux, but activity on it is sporadic: http://www.linux-sna.org Paul Landay
Re: HOW define another OSA Interface ?
At 12:44 17-12-02 +0100, Seifert, Harald wrote: As SuSE states other definitions can be added like this one: noauto;qeth1,0x0020,0x0021,0x0022;addparms,0x10,portname:OSAEG07 noauto;qeth2,0x0030,0x0031,0x0032;addparms,0x10,portname:OSAEG08 noauto;qeth3,0x0040,0x0041,0x0042;addparms,0x10,portname:OSAEG09 . I don't think so. If you have different names you will get things like add_parms,0x10,0x0020,0x0022,portname:OSAEG07 add_parms,0x10,0x0030,0x0032,portname:OSAEG08 This defines the portname OSAEG07 to be used for devices 0x20-0x22, etc but I would double check that these are really different chpids and have different portname.
Re: Linux/390 and z/VM interactions
I've tried the make, and the make fails with the compiler being missing. I don't know enough about this to 1) Identify the binary modues from that list, and 2) How to install them so I can make thigns work. ONE of these year they ARE going to send me to a unix/linux administration class so these planet sized holes in my knowledge base get filled... but I alas am unable to make the cognitive leap here. |-+ | | Mark Post| | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | et | | | Sent by: Linux on| | | 390 Port | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | IST.EDU | | || | || | | 12/16/2002 04:10 | | | PM | | | Please respond to| | | Linux on 390 Port| | || |-+ --| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Linux/390 and z/VM interactions | --| Steve, I just downloaded the openssh.os390.gz file. The binary code is in there: -rwxr-xr-x 0/5000 5598 2001-08-28 14:16:23 testopenssh/install-sh -rw-r--r-- 0/5000 11422828 2001-08-28 15:42:50 testopenssh/libcrypto.a -rw-r--r-- 0/5000 736948 2001-08-28 14:21:56 testopenssh/libssh.a -rw-r--r-- 0/5000 3668080 2001-08-28 15:42:52 testopenssh/libssl.a -rw-r--r-- 0/500041446 2001-08-28 15:42:46 testopenssh/libRSAglue.a -rwxr-xr-x 0/5000 2437120 2001-08-28 14:36:45 testopenssh/ssh -rwxr-xr-x 0/5000 1642496 2001-08-28 14:47:03 testopenssh/ssh-add -rwxr-xr-x 0/5000 1409024 2001-08-28 14:47:21 testopenssh/ssh-agent -rwxr-xr-x 0/5000 1052 2001-08-28 14:16:28 testopenssh/ssh-askpass -rwxr-xr-x 0/5000 1638400 2001-08-28 14:47:12 testopenssh/ssh-keygen I would say give it a try. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Melin Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux/390 and z/VM interactions We're in LPAR mode as well with Linux. Trying to cough up the $$$ for Z/VM also. The distribution of SSH that I tried was on http://s390.nichols.de/ssh/index.html. Page says the archive included binaries compiled under OS/390 2.9, but I sure as hell couldn't find them or figure out where they were in a different archive. If anyone is interested in trying to get Open SSH working under OS/390\Z/OS and unix system services with GCC or some other open source C compiler (if there is one) I think we could do something very beneficial to the OS/390 AND linux/390 Communities. Why IBM does not include open SSH as part of of the base is beyond me. |-+ | | paultz | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | Sent by: Linux on| | | 390 Port | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | IST.EDU | | || | || | | 12/16/2002 11:44 | | | AM | | | Please respond to| | | Linux on 390 Port| | || |-+ --- ---| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Linux/390 and z/VM interactions | --- ---| Jim, Yes, quiesce your Linux prior to doing your DFDSS backup of your CDL DASD. As to SSH, I assume you are referencing the SG245944 Redbook, chapter 25? I know it's out there, I just haven't gotten to it yet. I'm trying to find some free time to do similar automated tasks via SSH. I'll be interested to hear from you if you beat me to implementing SSH on your z/OS system (don't have z/VM). Best regards, Paul
Midwest VM Regional User Group Agenda for January 24, 2003
Cross posted to MVMRUG-L, VMESA-L and LINUX-390 lists. The Midwest VM Regional User group will be meeting in Cincinnati on October 25. There is no charge for this meeting and anyone interested in VM and/or Linux running under VM is welcome to attend. We do ask that you register so that we will have adequate food for breakfast. Details and registration information can be found at http://www.mvmrug.org/nextmtg.html Sessions and speakers planned for the day include: A. Open Source Software Phil Smith, III, Linuxcare, Inc. B. Simplifying Linux on z/VM Phil Smith, III, Linuxcare, Inc. C. Writing Pipeline Stages Will Roden, IBM D. Specs 407 (A significant enhancement to Pipelines) Will Roden, IBM E. FREE-FOR-ALL During this regularly scheduled session, let the assembled VM gurus answer your VM or CMS questions. Terry A. Moore Secretary/Treasurer, MVMRUG http://www.mvmrug.org ** This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company **
Re: LINUX Security
Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 05:08:54PM +0100, Susanne Oberhauser wrote: Sergey Korzhevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could you explain me, please, what is the reason to remove 'root' name from a system? there is none --- to the contrary doing so is Evil (tm) for LSB compliant distributions. However, to rely on LSB compliance in portable programs is just as Evil. 10 Thou shalt foreswear, renounce, and abjure the vile heresy which claimeth that ``All the world's [an LSB-compliant Linux system]'', and have no commerce with the benighted heathens who cling to this barbarous belief, that the days of thy program may be long even though the days of thy current machine be short. :))) ok, ok, I do --- being no native speaker, I can't abjure that poetically, but yes, of course there are other operating systems out there ;), I've even heard of some with very strange names for root, Stratminidator or the like... Nevertheless would you agree with me that for systmes claiming to run on *Linux*, relying on the existence of a user 'root' should be ok? This would allow portable software to have just *one* platform specific backend for *all* flavors of Linux, and would ease porting of such software to Linux. Susanne
OS/390, Linux and Disaster Recovery
What, if anything, have people done for disaster recover with Linux? How do you restore Linux volumes at a disaster site? How evil is it?
Re: LINUX Security
On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 15:08, Susanne Oberhauser wrote: Nevertheless would you agree with me that for systmes claiming to run on *Linux*, relying on the existence of a user 'root' should be ok? This would allow portable software to have just *one* platform specific backend for *all* flavors of Linux, and would ease porting of such software to Linux. Its a very bad habit but generally safe. If you want be more correct you canuse getpwuid(0) and ask the OS what root is
Remove CP-Owned Disk
hi, i want to remove a cpowned disk from the system. but i have a problem with the page space on this disk. a detach rdev from system fails because the system still allocates page space on the disk. so i drained the dasd, but ibm told me that it can take days, weeks or even more time till the system will free the page space. can somebody help me? i know ipl the system will solve the problem, but there must be another way... i hope. MfG Rene Wiedewilt Product Manager IBM High-End System Software Lufthansa Systems Infratec GmbH IBM System Services FRA AR/ISS Am Weiher 24, Geb. B, Raum 6.1.26 D 65451 Kelsterbach Tel +49 69 696 7265 Fax +49 69 696 93488 mailto: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LHsystems.com outbind://14/www.lhsystems.com
Re: LINUX Security
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 04:08:26PM +0100, Susanne Oberhauser wrote: Nevertheless would you agree with me that for systmes claiming to run on *Linux*, relying on the existence of a user 'root' should be ok? This would allow portable software to have just *one* platform specific backend for *all* flavors of Linux, and would ease porting of such software to Linux. Certainly, a program which is not expected to work on anything but an LSB-compliant system can make this assumption, and many others. But in this specific case, it is (in many cases) in fact easier to check for uid=0 than username=root anyway, and in general, there are relatively few cases where it makes sense to test for root privileges rather than something more specific. With the continuing development and proliferation of more fine-grained access control systems for Linux, root will become less magic, and could be removed or assigned reduced privileges. -- - mdz
Re: OS/390, Linux and Disaster Recovery
We run VM/Linux on an IFL and Tivoli under OS/390 here. Coming from an OS/390 DR background I've got to say recovery is relatively straight forward. 1) I make IPLable VM tapes (RES packs and such) on a weekly basis, so bringing up the base system is a snap. There is also a tape with an IPLable version of ICKDSF on it to use for formatting. 2) Before turning over an image to a customer I always make an initial DDR backup of the image minidisks so that I have a bootable, network attachable Linux guest available. 3) I also have minidisk backups of the Linux routers and internal DNS server we use for our G-LAN based network. They're small and fairly static so we have an internal network up very quickly. 3) Once theTivoli server is up (OS/390) I restore the image to the point of disaster via CTC. Then the only other piece left is for the LAN team to configure the PIX that sits in front of the OSA attached to the Linux maser router and connect us to the outside world. (At least until I convince my boss that a Linux guest machine can handle the NATing.) I think VM and Tivoli make the job of restoring our Linux environment easy, but I'm sure that the same could be pulled off using native Linux backups. One day I'm going to test the validity of the Tivoli Backup Set concept, wherein you can supposedly restore an image directly from tape -- sans TSM server. Matt Lashley Systems Programmer State of Idaho James Melin [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] epin.mn.us cc: Sent by: Linux on Subject: OS/390, Linux and Disaster Recovery 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] ST.EDU 12/17/2002 08:25 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port What, if anything, have people done for disaster recover with Linux? How do you restore Linux volumes at a disaster site? How evil is it?
Re: OS/390, Linux and Disaster Recovery
3) Once the Tivoli server is up (OS/390) I restore the image to the point of disaster via CTC. If the image was created a year ago, are you applying incremental restores that cover the entire time span, or do you periodically snap another baseline full-volume backup? If so, do you shutdown the guest, or do you have some reliable method of backing it up Hot? Chuck Gowans USDA - Nat'l IT Center - Kansas City -Original Message- From: Matt Lashley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 10:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OS/390, Linux and Disaster Recovery We run VM/Linux on an IFL and Tivoli under OS/390 here. Coming from an OS/390 DR background I've got to say recovery is relatively straight forward. 1) I make IPLable VM tapes (RES packs and such) on a weekly basis, so bringing up the base system is a snap. There is also a tape with an IPLable version of ICKDSF on it to use for formatting. 2) Before turning over an image to a customer I always make an initial DDR backup of the image minidisks so that I have a bootable, network attachable Linux guest available. 3) I also have minidisk backups of the Linux routers and internal DNS server we use for our G-LAN based network. They're small and fairly static so we have an internal network up very quickly. 3) Once theTivoli server is up (OS/390) I restore the image to the point of disaster via CTC. Then the only other piece left is for the LAN team to configure the PIX that sits in front of the OSA attached to the Linux maser router and connect us to the outside world. (At least until I convince my boss that a Linux guest machine can handle the NATing.) I think VM and Tivoli make the job of restoring our Linux environment easy, but I'm sure that the same could be pulled off using native Linux backups. One day I'm going to test the validity of the Tivoli Backup Set concept, wherein you can supposedly restore an image directly from tape -- sans TSM server. Matt Lashley Systems Programmer State of Idaho James Melin [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] epin.mn.us cc: Sent by: Linux on Subject: OS/390, Linux and Disaster Recovery 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] ST.EDU 12/17/2002 08:25 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port What, if anything, have people done for disaster recover with Linux? How do you restore Linux volumes at a disaster site? How evil is it?
Re: Remove CP-Owned Disk
One of the reasons that you should always use dedicated volumes for page space is because once it is used for paging it can not be removed easily. After you drain the volume VM will not write any pages to it. However you must wait until every page that has been written to the volume has been paged back in before the volume is free. An IPL will of free all the pages on the volume. Stephen Frazier Oklahoma Department of Corrections -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Remove CP-Owned Disk hi, i want to remove a cpowned disk from the system. but i have a problem with the page space on this disk. a detach rdev from system fails because the system still allocates page space on the disk. so i drained the dasd, but ibm told me that it can take days, weeks or even more time till the system will free the page space. can somebody help me? i know ipl the system will solve the problem, but there must be another way... i hope. MfG Rene Wiedewilt Product Manager IBM High-End System Software Lufthansa Systems Infratec GmbH IBM System Services FRA AR/ISS Am Weiher 24, Geb. B, Raum 6.1.26 D 65451 Kelsterbach Tel +49 69 696 7265 Fax +49 69 696 93488 mailto: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LHsystems.com outbind://14/www.lhsystems.com
Re: HOWTO define a network printer to Linux S/390 ?
Harald, It was kind of hard to tell because of all the MIME quoting, but it looks as though your first line is wrong. There should not be a blank between BH0D and lp on that line. All names should be separated by the pipe character |. Second, you really should consider listening to the SuSE support people when they say use YaST. That tool is designed to perform tasks such as this, and will likely make the job a lot easier. Mark Post -Original Message- I'm running SuSE Linux zSLES7 in a LPAR of a z900 machine with Kernel 2.4.17. I have tried to define a network printer to the BSD spooling system and as a newbie with no success. The printer, I have, is an LEXMARK Optra S1855 and I have tried the following definition in /etc/printcap remote|lp1|BH0D lp:\ :lp=:\ :rm=PRT1.huk-domain.de:\ :rp=raw:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/BH0D-lp:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/BH0D-lp/log:\ :af=/var/sppol/lpd/BH0D-lp/acct:\ :ar:bk:mx#0:\ :tr=:c1:sh: The lpd daemon is up and running. I put a job to the printer with lpr -Premote /etc/fstab. Doing a lpc status , I see the following: remote: queuing is enabled printing is enabled 1 entry in spool area no daemon present . Also I did a PING to BH0D (the name of the Printer) to see the full name of the printer it's PRT1.huk-domain.de and it's TCP/IP address. It seems that something is missing. The SuSE support says simply: Define the remote printer with YAST. Has anyone done similiar things or knows a HOWTO ? Any suggestions appreciated. N.B. Or should I try CUPS or SAMBA. Regards Harald Seifert Informatik-Systemprogrammierung HUK Coburg Bahnhofsplatz 96444 Coburg Phone +049 (0)9561-961787 Fax+049 (0)9561-963671 Mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux/390 and z/VM interactions
Well, the web page did have an email address to send questions to the packager. You could try that. Or, you could take a Linux-Linux/390 package and see what files are relevant for installation and where they go: rpm -qlp openssh.rpm I just checked the one on my Slackware system here at home, and not counting all the man pages, etc., there are only about 15 files I would consider installable. My list probably won't reflect the same target directories, etc. that yours would, but if you like, I can send it to you off list. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Melin Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux/390 and z/VM interactions I've tried the make, and the make fails with the compiler being missing. I don't know enough about this to 1) Identify the binary modues from that list, and 2) How to install them so I can make thigns work. ONE of these year they ARE going to send me to a unix/linux administration class so these planet sized holes in my knowledge base get filled... but I alas am unable to make the cognitive leap here. |-+ | | Mark Post| | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | et | | | Sent by: Linux on| | | 390 Port | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | IST.EDU | | || | || | | 12/16/2002 04:10 | | | PM | | | Please respond to| | | Linux on 390 Port| | || |-+ --- ---| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Linux/390 and z/VM interactions | --- ---| Steve, I just downloaded the openssh.os390.gz file. The binary code is in there: -rwxr-xr-x 0/5000 5598 2001-08-28 14:16:23 testopenssh/install-sh -rw-r--r-- 0/5000 11422828 2001-08-28 15:42:50 testopenssh/libcrypto.a -rw-r--r-- 0/5000 736948 2001-08-28 14:21:56 testopenssh/libssh.a -rw-r--r-- 0/5000 3668080 2001-08-28 15:42:52 testopenssh/libssl.a -rw-r--r-- 0/500041446 2001-08-28 15:42:46 testopenssh/libRSAglue.a -rwxr-xr-x 0/5000 2437120 2001-08-28 14:36:45 testopenssh/ssh -rwxr-xr-x 0/5000 1642496 2001-08-28 14:47:03 testopenssh/ssh-add -rwxr-xr-x 0/5000 1409024 2001-08-28 14:47:21 testopenssh/ssh-agent -rwxr-xr-x 0/5000 1052 2001-08-28 14:16:28 testopenssh/ssh-askpass -rwxr-xr-x 0/5000 1638400 2001-08-28 14:47:12 testopenssh/ssh-keygen I would say give it a try. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Melin Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux/390 and z/VM interactions We're in LPAR mode as well with Linux. Trying to cough up the $$$ for Z/VM also. The distribution of SSH that I tried was on http://s390.nichols.de/ssh/index.html. Page says the archive included binaries compiled under OS/390 2.9, but I sure as hell couldn't find them or figure out where they were in a different archive. If anyone is interested in trying to get Open SSH working under OS/390\Z/OS and unix system services with GCC or some other open source C compiler (if there is one) I think we could do something very beneficial to the OS/390 AND linux/390 Communities. Why IBM does not include open SSH as part of of the base is beyond me. |-+ | | paultz | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | Sent by: Linux on| | | 390 Port | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | IST.EDU | | || | || | | 12/16/2002 11:44 | | | AM | | | Please respond to| | | Linux on 390 Port| | || |-+ --- ---| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Linux/390 and z/VM interactions | --- ---| Jim, Yes, quiesce your Linux prior to doing your DFDSS backup of your CDL DASD. As
Re: Linux/390 and z/VM interactions
Sure. That would be faboo. And I did try the e-mail address on the page. Well over a month ago, to no avail |-+ | | Mark Post| | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | et | | | Sent by: Linux on| | | 390 Port | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | IST.EDU | | || | || | | 12/17/2002 11:50 | | | AM | | | Please respond to| | | Linux on 390 Port| | || |-+ --| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Linux/390 and z/VM interactions | --| Well, the web page did have an email address to send questions to the packager. You could try that. Or, you could take a Linux-Linux/390 package and see what files are relevant for installation and where they go: rpm -qlp openssh.rpm I just checked the one on my Slackware system here at home, and not counting all the man pages, etc., there are only about 15 files I would consider installable. My list probably won't reflect the same target directories, etc. that yours would, but if you like, I can send it to you off list. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Melin Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux/390 and z/VM interactions I've tried the make, and the make fails with the compiler being missing. I don't know enough about this to 1) Identify the binary modues from that list, and 2) How to install them so I can make thigns work. ONE of these year they ARE going to send me to a unix/linux administration class so these planet sized holes in my knowledge base get filled... but I alas am unable to make the cognitive leap here. |-+ | | Mark Post| | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | et | | | Sent by: Linux on| | | 390 Port | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | IST.EDU | | || | || | | 12/16/2002 04:10 | | | PM | | | Please respond to| | | Linux on 390 Port| | || |-+ --- ---| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Linux/390 and z/VM interactions | --- ---| Steve, I just downloaded the openssh.os390.gz file. The binary code is in there: -rwxr-xr-x 0/5000 5598 2001-08-28 14:16:23 testopenssh/install-sh -rw-r--r-- 0/5000 11422828 2001-08-28 15:42:50 testopenssh/libcrypto.a -rw-r--r-- 0/5000 736948 2001-08-28 14:21:56 testopenssh/libssh.a -rw-r--r-- 0/5000 3668080 2001-08-28 15:42:52 testopenssh/libssl.a -rw-r--r-- 0/500041446 2001-08-28 15:42:46 testopenssh/libRSAglue.a -rwxr-xr-x 0/5000 2437120 2001-08-28 14:36:45 testopenssh/ssh -rwxr-xr-x 0/5000 1642496 2001-08-28 14:47:03 testopenssh/ssh-add -rwxr-xr-x 0/5000 1409024 2001-08-28 14:47:21 testopenssh/ssh-agent -rwxr-xr-x 0/5000 1052 2001-08-28 14:16:28 testopenssh/ssh-askpass -rwxr-xr-x 0/5000 1638400 2001-08-28 14:47:12 testopenssh/ssh-keygen I would say give it a try. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Melin Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux/390 and z/VM interactions We're in LPAR mode as well with Linux. Trying to cough up the $$$ for Z/VM also. The distribution of SSH that I tried was on http://s390.nichols.de/ssh/index.html. Page says the
FW: Midwest VM Regional User Group Agenda for January 24, 2003
Uh, Oh! Caught by cut and paste again. Right date in the subject, but last meeting's date and location in the body. MVMRUG will meet in Columbus, Ohio on January 24. Sorry about that. Terry -Original Message- From: Dunbar, Maggie Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 10:37 AM Subject: RE: Midwest VM Regional User Group Agenda for January 24, 2003 Uh Terry??? Want to check the date in the body of this message??? October 25??? ..consider that second cup of coffee... :-) -Original Message- From: Moore, Terry A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Midwest VM Regional User Group Agenda for January 24, 2003 Cross posted to MVMRUG-L, VMESA-L and LINUX-390 lists. The Midwest VM Regional User group will be meeting in Cincinnati on October 25. There is no charge for this meeting and anyone interested in VM and/or Linux running under VM is welcome to attend. We do ask that you register so that we will have adequate food for breakfast. Details and registration information can be found at http://www.mvmrug.org/nextmtg.html Sessions and speakers planned for the day include: A. Open Source Software Phil Smith, III, Linuxcare, Inc. B. Simplifying Linux on z/VM Phil Smith, III, Linuxcare, Inc. C. Writing Pipeline Stages Will Roden, IBM D. Specs 407 (A significant enhancement to Pipelines) Will Roden, IBM E. FREE-FOR-ALL During this regularly scheduled session, let the assembled VM gurus answer your VM or CMS questions. Terry A. Moore Secretary/Treasurer, MVMRUG http://www.mvmrug.org ** This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company ** ** This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company **
Re: LINUX Security
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 04:08:26PM +0100, Susanne Oberhauser wrote: Nevertheless would you agree with me that for systmes claiming to run on *Linux*, relying on the existence of a user 'root' should be ok? This would allow portable software to have just *one* platform specific backend for *all* flavors of Linux, and would ease porting of such software to Linux. Certainly, a program which is not expected to work on anything but an LSB-compliant system can make this assumption, and many others. But in this specific case, it is (in many cases) in fact easier to check for uid=0 than username=root anyway, and in general, there are relatively few cases where it makes sense to test for root privileges rather than something more specific. With the continuing development and proliferation of more fine-grained access control systems for Linux, root will become less magic, and could be removed or assigned reduced privileges. Indeed. Engarde Linux has been around a while, and it's hardened with LIDS. There's no gurantee that root can do anything you'd want to if you're running LIDS-enabled. I'm pretty sure you will encounter difficulty if you're using selinux or Bastille. Possessors of such systems won't care whether they're LSB-compliant, though they mare care that tests for privilege fail. -- Cheers John. Join the Linux Support by Small Businesses list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb
Network I/O performance vs. CPU consumption
Hi all, I have a question regarding the best approach for transfer 3287 printer data from VTAM, from a OS/390 partition, to a VM/Linux partition (through 3270 LU sessions of course). The 3287 data (printer spool) to be moved can be up to 50 MB. The solution should consider the fastest speed with the lowest usage of CPU cycles. I have considered the standard two approaches: the CTC connection and the OSA Express connection between VM/Linux and OS/390. For what I know CTC is fast but also it should have more impact on the CPU usage, due to interrupts instead of the OSA Express (that should use QDIO/DMA based data transfer). Any suggestion?
Re: Linux on the Mainframe BOF at LinuxWorld, NYC, Jan 30, 2003
Mike, Are you sure on the January 30th date? LinuxWorld runs January 21-24 in NYC. -Montgomery Mouw, Sistina Software (a.k.a. the creators of Global File System for Linux) Michael MacIsaac wrote: I've helped organize a Linux on the Mainframe BOF at LinuxWorld, NYC, Thursday Jan 30, 2003 at 5:30. Here's the abstract: The mainframe, IBM e-server zSeries or S/390, is getting more recognition as a viable Linux platform allowing Linux to run both under z/VM and in LPARs. In many organizations, it is helping Linux to become accepted in the enterprise. This BOF session will bring together professionals using Linux on the mainframe. Representatives from IBM, SuSE Linux and Red Hat Linux will be present (of course other companies are welcome) to discuss and answer questions from a financial, business, and techncial perspective. The Web page for the conference is http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/linuxworldny03/V33/index.cvn and for the BOFs at http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/linuxworldny03/V33/index.cvn?id=1001 9p_navID=16 We'll do questionnaires, have a few opening statements and then open the floor for discussion. If you're going to be there, come by on Thursday evening for a relaxed, open discussion. Hope to see you there. -Mike MacIsaac, IBM [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845) 433-7061 Linux will be to operating systems what TCP/IP is to networking - Dr. Irving Wladawsky-Berger, IBM
Re: Network I/O performance vs. CPU consumption
You might have bigger issues than your network path. Unless you have something on Linux that understands the 3270 printer datastreams, the data will go nowhere. OS/390 has to have an LU to send it to. You should be able to use FTP or LPR right from the JES spool to send the data to Linux. On Tuesday 17 December 2002 02:49 pm, you wrote: Hi all, I have a question regarding the best approach for transfer 3287 printer data from VTAM, from a OS/390 partition, to a VM/Linux partition (through 3270 LU sessions of course). The 3287 data (printer spool) to be moved can be up to 50 MB. The solution should consider the fastest speed with the lowest usage of CPU cycles. I have considered the standard two approaches: the CTC connection and the OSA Express connection between VM/Linux and OS/390. For what I know CTC is fast but also it should have more impact on the CPU usage, due to interrupts instead of the OSA Express (that should use QDIO/DMA based data transfer). Any suggestion? -- Rich Smrcina Sytek Services, Inc. Milwaukee, WI [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catch the WAVV! Stay for Requirements and the Free for All! Update your S/390 skills in 4 days for a very reasonable price. WAVV 2003 in Winston-Salem, NC. April 25-29, 2003 For details see http://www.wavv.org
Re: HOWTO define a network printer to Linux S/390 ?
Has anyone done similiar things or knows a HOWTO ? Any suggestions appreciated. Harald, There are some excellent 'howto's at NASPA, by Adam Thorton: http://www.naspa.com/PDF/2001/0101%20PDF/T0101007.pdf http://www.naspa.com/PDF/2001/0201%20PDF/T0102007.pdf Helped me a ton when I was playing with print serving. Regards, Paul
Re: Network I/O performance vs. CPU consumption
Sorry I omitted some details from my previous message. I have already all the solution in place working through a standard OSA adapter. The solution is based basically on two components: the pr3287 program and another program that receives the data stream from a pipe connected to the output of the pr3287. The connection with the OS/390 is through multiple LUs (one LU for each pr3287 process). Now in order to increase the bandwith I would like activate an OSA Express or CTC connection. The one with the lower impact on the CPUs for this situation. Franco Fiorese EDS You might have bigger issues than your network path. Unless you have something on Linux that understands the 3270 printer datastreams, the data will go nowhere. OS/390 has to have an LU to send it to. You should be able to use FTP or LPR right from the JES spool to send the data to Linux. On Tuesday 17 December 2002 02:49 pm, you wrote: Hi all, I have a question regarding the best approach for transfer 3287 printer data from VTAM, from a OS/390 partition, to a VM/Linux partition (through 3270 LU sessions of course). The 3287 data (printer spool) to be moved can be up to 50 MB. The solution should consider the fastest speed with the lowest usage of CPU cycles. I have considered the standard two approaches: the CTC connection and the OSA Express connection between VM/Linux and OS/390. For what I know CTC is fast but also it should have more impact on the CPU usage, due to interrupts instead of the OSA Express (that should use QDIO/DMA based data transfer). Any suggestion? -- Rich Smrcina Sytek Services, Inc. Milwaukee, WI [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catch the WAVV! Stay for Requirements and the Free for All! Update your S/390 skills in 4 days for a very reasonable price. WAVV 2003 in Winston-Salem, NC. April 25-29, 2003 For details see http://www.wavv.org
Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory
Ok, now someone's stolen an entire Redbook, and all the Open Source tools that came with it (at least as far as _I_ can tell). Someone sent me an offlist email indicating that the Open Source Software for z/OS and OS/390 Redbook has been made to disappear, as well as the software that it discusses. I checked the FTP server, and there was a readme.txt file there indicating that all the software had been moved to IBM's UNIX Tools Toys web page, which was what I recalled had been done with it. When I went to that page, though, there was a notice that said The Ported Tools section is being serviced and is not available at this time. Now, just what that means is unclear to me, but taken with the Redbook being missing, it's rather odd. Does anyone know how long the Ported Tools section has been down for service? Does anyone know where to find the official copy of the Redbook? Let the games begin. :) Mark Post
Re: Network I/O performance vs. CPU consumption
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Franco Fiorese wrote: Sorry I omitted some details from my previous message. I have already all the solution in place working through a standard OSA adapter. The solution is based basically on two components: the pr3287 program and another program that receives the data stream from a pipe connected to the output of the pr3287. The connection with the OS/390 is through multiple LUs (one LU for each pr3287 process). Now in order to increase the bandwith I would like activate an OSA Express or CTC connection. The one with the lower impact on the CPUs for this situation. Seems to me that ftp and lpr are lighter-weight protocols and likely to give better throughput. -- Cheers John. Join the Linux Support by Small Businesses list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb
Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Mark Post wrote: Ok, now someone's stolen an entire Redbook, and all the Open Source tools that came with it (at least as far as _I_ can tell). Someone sent me an offlist email indicating that the Open Source Software for z/OS and OS/390 Redbook has been made to disappear, as well as the software that it discusses. I checked the FTP server, and there was a readme.txt file there indicating that all the software had been moved to IBM's UNIX Tools Toys web page, which was what I recalled had been done with it. When I went to that page, though, there was a notice that said The Ported Tools section is being serviced and is not available at this time. Now, just what that means is unclear to me, but taken with the Redbook being missing, it's rather odd. Does anyone know how long the Ported Tools section has been down for service? Does anyone know where to find the official copy of the Redbook? Is this time to disseminate unofficial copies? Is it in the Google cache? -- Cheers John. Join the Linux Support by Small Businesses list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb
(please) Tell IBM about your VM Linux on VM Education needs
(cross-posted to vmesa-l, ibm-main, linux-390) | Thank you to those of you who responded so quickly. Keep on sending. | Also, see clarification for Question 1 below. | With the initial wording, I didn't mean to imply that the courses | would need to be held near or at the Tech Conference,etc. or | even at the same time. Sorry for the confusion. Hello, Please help us to understand your education needs (and those of your staff) by providing your input and guidance. For starters, these are the newly-updated VM course offerings from IBM. - Installing, Configuring and Servicing z/VM for Linux Guests (ZV060) - z/VM Linux Connectivity Management (ZV100) |1) Will your VM education needs be met through these courses | and/or the IBM zSeries Tech conference or SHARE or GSE? What about the VM needs of your staff members? 2) Please tell us the additional z/VM and Linux on VM related topics for which you need in-depth education? 3) Any comments on the delivery method (formal classes, online), location, and cost? 4) Do you have (or plan to have) new-to VM staff who will need the CP/CMS basics? Please respond via way that is most comfortable for you. - directly to me - or VM web feedback: http://www.vm.ibm.com/forms/feedback.html - or here on the listserv if you don't mind sharing the information and/or encouraging discussion on this topic. I will share your responses with my colleagues in IBM Learning Services for consideration in educational offerings and course development, and also I will keep them in mind when assembling the agenda for the 2003 zSeries Technical Conferences. We look forward to hearing from you. Thank you. Regards, Pam C
Re: Network I/O performance vs. CPU consumption
At 21:49 17-12-02, Franco Fiorese wrote: The 3287 data (printer spool) to be moved can be up to 50 MB. You mean 50 MB per day? Even if you had 50 MB per hour that is only 15 KB/s. QDIO is meant for things like 1 CD/s. While QDIO is more efficient at high utilization, it seems unlikely to me that you need to worry about the CPU cycles spent on this because you have so little data. Rob
Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory
The book itself is not in the cache at Google, but I and a number of other people have copies (I know it was one of the more popular downloads). But, I did come across a pointer this message, dated October 24 2002, on the IBM-Main listserv: http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvtype?MVS-OE.33139 It's Mike MacIsaac, the lead author of that book explaining that he's been ordered not to talk about why the book and the software were removed. Sigh. Sometimes I really _want_ to be wrong, and this was one of them. Well, I'll offer to send a copy of the book to anyone that wants one, and doesn't have it (it's a little under 3MB in size). Maybe Giorgio Bellussi will host this one too, if enough people think it's worthwhile. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Summerfield Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 4:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Mark Post wrote: Ok, now someone's stolen an entire Redbook, and all the Open Source tools that came with it (at least as far as _I_ can tell). Someone sent me an offlist email indicating that the Open Source Software for z/OS and OS/390 Redbook has been made to disappear, as well as the software that it discusses. I checked the FTP server, and there was a readme.txt file there indicating that all the software had been moved to IBM's UNIX Tools Toys web page, which was what I recalled had been done with it. When I went to that page, though, there was a notice that said The Ported Tools section is being serviced and is not available at this time. Now, just what that means is unclear to me, but taken with the Redbook being missing, it's rather odd. Does anyone know how long the Ported Tools section has been down for service? Does anyone know where to find the official copy of the Redbook? Is this time to disseminate unofficial copies? Is it in the Google cache? -- Cheers John. Join the Linux Support by Small Businesses list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb
Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory
Mark, Surely IBM had a sign up that said Excuse us while we remodel to improve your Open Source Software Experience? I can't imagine IBM would do away with something that is designed to make ourt lives easier, now would they? ;-) Paul == From: Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory Ok, now someone's stolen an entire Redbook, and all the Open Source tools that came with it (at least as far as _I_ can tell). Someone sent me an offlist email indicating that the Open Source Software for z/OS and OS/390 Redbook has been made to disappear, as well as the software that it discusses. I checked the FTP server, and there was a readme.txt file there indicating that all the software had been moved to IBM's UNIX Tools Toys web page, which was what I recalled had been done with it. When I went to that page, though, there was a notice that said The Ported Tools section is being serviced and is not available at this time. Now, just what that means is unclear to me, but taken with the Redbook being missing, it's rather odd. Does anyone know how long the Ported Tools section has been down for service? Does anyone know where to find the official copy of the Redbook? Let the games begin. :) Mark Post
Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory
On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 14:20, Mark Post wrote:
Well, I'll offer to send a copy of the book to anyone that wants one, and
doesn't have it (it's a little under 3MB in size). Maybe Giorgio Bellussi
will host this one too, if enough people think it's worthwhile
I thought I had a softcopy but cant locate it here. I'll take a copy if
you would Mark.
Thanks
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Re: sna-linux
Paul, Proxy server is unable to locate the server: www.sna-linux.org. The server does not have a DNS entry. Check the server name in the Location (URL) and try again. Sporadic is an understatement - Is there anywhere else we can obtain these RPM's from ? thanks again Mitch From: Paul Landay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sna-linux Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 06:21:51 -0500 Mitchell McKenna wrote: sna-linux - where art thou ? IBM has a sna for linux PRPQ (CS/Linux = Communications Server for Linux), but currently only for intel-32bit: http://www.ibm.com/software/network/commserver There is an open source project which is supposed to work on zSeries linux, but activity on it is sporadic: http://www.linux-sna.org Paul Landay _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 05:20:31PM -0500, Mark Post wrote: Well, I'll offer to send a copy of the book to anyone that wants one, and doesn't have it (it's a little under 3MB in size). Maybe Giorgio Bellussi will host this one too, if enough people think it's worthwhile. I'd like a copy. Did it mention Hercules? If not, Phil will have to come up with some other conspiracy theory to explain its withdrawal.
Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory
Are you sure about that? If I try to access the first URL, it just bounces me to the second one. I may have been too slow. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Mike Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory Fortunately it's still available from IBM Taiwan, who it seems aren't singing from quite the same hymnsheet as the folks in the USA :) http://www2.tw.ibm.com/cgi-bin/db2www/techdoc/check.d2w/report?No=194 See also http://www2.tw.ibm.com/cgi-bin/db2www/techdoc/index.d2w/report Grab it before the Revisionists erase it too... a copy will be going up at http://www.corestore.org/sg245944.zip but I don't have infinite bandwidth... Mike (CC'ed to Mark in case I'm still banned from posting to Linux-390) http://www.corestore.org The book itself is not in the cache at Google, but I and a number of other people have copies (I know it was one of the more popular downloads). But, I did come across a pointer this message, dated October 24 2002, on the IBM-Main listserv: http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvtype?MVS-OE.33139 It's Mike MacIsaac, the lead author of that book explaining that he's been ordered not to talk about why the book and the software were removed. Sigh. Sometimes I really _want_ to be wrong, and this was one of them. Well, I'll offer to send a copy of the book to anyone that wants one, and doesn't have it (it's a little under 3MB in size). Maybe Giorgio Bellussi will host this one too, if enough people think it's worthwhile. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Summerfield Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 4:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Mark Post wrote: Ok, now someone's stolen an entire Redbook, and all the Open Source tools that came with it (at least as far as _I_ can tell). Someone sent me an offlist email indicating that the Open Source Software for z/OS and OS/390 Redbook has been made to disappear, as well as the software that it discusses. I checked the FTP server, and there was a readme.txt file there indicating that all the software had been moved to IBM's UNIX Tools Toys web page, which was what I recalled had been done with it. When I went to that page, though, there was a notice that said The Ported Tools section is being serviced and is not available at this time. Now, just what that means is unclear to me, but taken with the Redbook being missing, it's rather odd. Does anyone know how long the Ported Tools section has been down for service? Does anyone know where to find the official copy of the Redbook? Is this time to disseminate unofficial copies? Is it in the Google cache? -- Cheers John. Join the Linux Support by Small Businesses list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory
A quick search seems to indicate it did not mention Hercules. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jay Maynard Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 6:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 05:20:31PM -0500, Mark Post wrote: Well, I'll offer to send a copy of the book to anyone that wants one, and doesn't have it (it's a little under 3MB in size). Maybe Giorgio Bellussi will host this one too, if enough people think it's worthwhile. I'd like a copy. Did it mention Hercules? If not, Phil will have to come up with some other conspiracy theory to explain its withdrawal.
Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory
Hello from Gregg C Levine Then perhaps there's another reason. And yes I agree with Jay, that Phil will have to fabricate another reason for this. I suspect Mike had it withdrawn for legal reasons, or those same individuals did it behind his back. I think the whole business is preposterous. In fact it stinks. On any planet. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Force will be with you...Always. Obi-Wan Kenobi Use the Force, Luke. Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda ) -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 6:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory A quick search seems to indicate it did not mention Hercules. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jay Maynard Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 6:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 05:20:31PM -0500, Mark Post wrote: Well, I'll offer to send a copy of the book to anyone that wants one, and doesn't have it (it's a little under 3MB in size). Maybe Giorgio Bellussi will host this one too, if enough people think it's worthwhile. I'd like a copy. Did it mention Hercules? If not, Phil will have to come up with some other conspiracy theory to explain its withdrawal.
Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory
I would like a copy also -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jay Maynard Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 05:20:31PM -0500, Mark Post wrote: Well, I'll offer to send a copy of the book to anyone that wants one, and doesn't have it (it's a little under 3MB in size). Maybe Giorgio Bellussi will host this one too, if enough people think it's worthwhile. I'd like a copy. Did it mention Hercules? If not, Phil will have to come up with some other conspiracy theory to explain its withdrawal.
Re: sna-linux
The correct url is www.linux-sna.org. -- db - Original Message - From: Mitchell McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:57 PM Subject: Re: sna-linux Paul, Proxy server is unable to locate the server: www.sna-linux.org. The server does not have a DNS entry. Check the server name in the Location (URL) and try again. Sporadic is an understatement - Is there anywhere else we can obtain these RPM's from ? thanks again Mitch From: Paul Landay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sna-linux Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 06:21:51 -0500 Mitchell McKenna wrote: sna-linux - where art thou ? IBM has a sna for linux PRPQ (CS/Linux = Communications Server for Linux), but currently only for intel-32bit: http://www.ibm.com/software/network/commserver There is an open source project which is supposed to work on zSeries linux, but activity on it is sporadic: http://www.linux-sna.org Paul Landay _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: sna-linux
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:22, you wrote: The correct url is www.linux-sna.org. If that works as well for you as it does to me, try http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:bOQ2GQ2cTDQC:www.linux-sna.org/+hl=enlr=lang_enie=UTF-8 -- db - Original Message - From: Mitchell McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:57 PM Subject: Re: sna-linux Paul, Proxy server is unable to locate the server: www.sna-linux.org. The server does not have a DNS entry. Check the server name in the Location (URL) and try again. Sporadic is an understatement - Is there anywhere else we can obtain these RPM's from ? thanks again Mitch From: Paul Landay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sna-linux Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 06:21:51 -0500 Mitchell McKenna wrote: sna-linux - where art thou ? IBM has a sna for linux PRPQ (CS/Linux = Communications Server for Linux), but currently only for intel-32bit: http://www.ibm.com/software/network/commserver There is an open source project which is supposed to work on zSeries linux, but activity on it is sporadic: http://www.linux-sna.org Paul Landay _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- Cheers John Summerfield Microsoft's most solid OS: http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/ Join the Linux Support by Small Businesses list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb
Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked
Hi Folks: I hate to ruin the intrigue of a good conspiracy theory :-) but the packages should be back online by the end of the day Wednesday. Feel free to contact me if you have don't find what you're looking for after that time. regards, Steve Tools and Toys Website Maintainer
Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked
Steve, Perhaps you'd care to comment on the absence (or present location) of the SG24-5944-01 Redbook? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Stiert Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked Hi Folks: I hate to ruin the intrigue of a good conspiracy theory :-) but the packages should be back online by the end of the day Wednesday. Feel free to contact me if you have don't find what you're looking for after that time. regards, Steve Tools and Toys Website Maintainer
Re: sna-linux
Which also seems to come up MIA. :( Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sna-linux The correct url is www.linux-sna.org. -- db - Original Message - From: Mitchell McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:57 PM Subject: Re: sna-linux Paul, Proxy server is unable to locate the server: www.sna-linux.org. The server does not have a DNS entry. Check the server name in the Location (URL) and try again. Sporadic is an understatement - Is there anywhere else we can obtain these RPM's from ? thanks again Mitch From: Paul Landay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sna-linux Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 06:21:51 -0500 Mitchell McKenna wrote: sna-linux - where art thou ? IBM has a sna for linux PRPQ (CS/Linux = Communications Server for Linux), but currently only for intel-32bit: http://www.ibm.com/software/network/commserver There is an open source project which is supposed to work on zSeries linux, but activity on it is sporadic: http://www.linux-sna.org Paul Landay _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked
Have a look at http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/pdfs/sg245944.pdf Steve, Perhaps you'd care to comment on the absence (or present location) of the SG24-5944-01 Redbook? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Stiert Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked Hi Folks: I hate to ruin the intrigue of a good conspiracy theory :-) but the packages should be back online by the end of the day Wednesday. Feel free to contact me if you have don't find what you're looking for after that time. regards, Steve Tools and Toys Website Maintainer
Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked
That's OK, but it's not the final, released version. That's a preliminary copy, hence the redpiece name in the directory. I would really like to see the final release version. Anyone else? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Lüghausen Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked Have a look at http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/pdfs/sg245944.pdf Steve, Perhaps you'd care to comment on the absence (or present location) of the SG24-5944-01 Redbook? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Stiert Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked Hi Folks: I hate to ruin the intrigue of a good conspiracy theory :-) but the packages should be back online by the end of the day Wednesday. Feel free to contact me if you have don't find what you're looking for after that time. regards, Steve Tools and Toys Website Maintainer
Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked
It's me again. Maybe i misinterpret it but please have a look inside the document: On the coverpage is written: Redbooks On Redpieces is written: Redpaper In the impressum is written: Second Edition (February 2002) That's OK, but it's not the final, released version. That's a prelim inary copy, hence the redpiece name in the directory. I would really lik e to see the final release version. Anyone else? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf O f Michael L|ghausen Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked Have a look at http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/pdfs/sg245944.pdf Steve, Perhaps you'd care to comment on the absence (or present location) of the SG24-5944-01 Redbook? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf O f Steve Stiert Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked Hi Folks: I hate to ruin the intrigue of a good conspiracy theory :-) but the packages should be back online by the end of the day Wednesday. Feel free to contact me if you have don't find what you're looking for after that time. regards, Steve Tools and Toys Website Maintainer
Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked
That's correct (except the fact that only Redbooks have Redbooks on the cover). The final release version of that book was dated March 2002. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Lüghausen Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked It's me again. Maybe i misinterpret it but please have a look inside the document: On the coverpage is written: Redbooks On Redpieces is written: Redpaper In the impressum is written: Second Edition (February 2002) That's OK, but it's not the final, released version. That's a prelim inary copy, hence the redpiece name in the directory. I would really lik e to see the final release version. Anyone else? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf O f Michael L|ghausen Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked Have a look at http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/pdfs/sg245944.pdf Steve, Perhaps you'd care to comment on the absence (or present location) of the SG24-5944-01 Redbook? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf O f Steve Stiert Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked Hi Folks: I hate to ruin the intrigue of a good conspiracy theory :-) but the packages should be back online by the end of the day Wednesday. Feel free to contact me if you have don't find what you're looking for after that time. regards, Steve Tools and Toys Website Maintainer
