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Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
What I loved about war games was that the "hacker's" computer was somehow autodialling with a ACOUSTIC coupled modem. I distinctly remember seeing the handset of the phone in the acoustic modem. Oh, and the phone was PULSE dialled, not TONE dialed, to boot. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications & Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. > -Original Message- > From: Edwin Handschuh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 5:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries > > > Adam: > > I like where you're going with this idea... People's perception of a > computer are completely out of line with reality. I know > this is a bit off > track, but it does remind me of the movie "War Games". I distinctly > remember a chubby guy (computer geek) sticking his head in a > 3420 tape drive > (vacuum door opened) and saying "I've checked the computer > and I can't find > the bug anywhere". Well, maybe if you got your head out of > the tape drive > and logged on to the machine you might stand a chance! > Clearly someone in > Hollywood thought the 3420 looked more like a computer than the actual > machine (not that the WOPR really looked like one either). > Come to think of > it, didn't the WOPR have a lot of blinking lights and > possibly bubble tubes? > > ETH
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
A number of years ago I worked on a project that involved donating computers and software to police departments, so we had a lot of press coverage. The computer was an old mini that was one of the first ones without a front panel. Just a plain beige metal box with a couple of big clunky disk drives attached. No tape drives. We did backups disk-to-disk. The TV crews were beside themselves that there was nothing "interesting" to show. One crew came into our office early in the process, and ended up filming a couple of pieces that had nothing to do with the project, but had blinking lights and spinning tapes. For a while we considered replacing the plain metal panels on the mini with smoked plexiglass in chrome frames to show the diagnostic lights inside, but nobody would go for the idea. I think IBM is aware of this to a degree. The new CMOS boxes are a lot cooler looking than, say, a 4381, but maybe something like a lava-lamp SAD display on an LCD display on the front would be nice? Actually, there's an X app that displays Linux system activity as Lava-lamp like blobs, so this wouldn't be that hard to do. > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Edwin Handschuh > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries > > > Adam: > > I like where you're going with this idea... People's perception of a > computer are completely out of line with reality. I know > this is a bit off > track, but it does remind me of the movie "War Games". I distinctly > remember a chubby guy (computer geek) sticking his head in a > 3420 tape drive > (vacuum door opened) and saying "I've checked the computer > and I can't find > the bug anywhere". Well, maybe if you got your head out of > the tape drive > and logged on to the machine you might stand a chance! > Clearly someone in > Hollywood thought the 3420 looked more like a computer than the actual > machine (not that the WOPR really looked like one either). > Come to think of > it, didn't the WOPR have a lot of blinking lights and > possibly bubble tubes? > > ETH > > PS: Chubby did have a pocket protector with pencils/pens in > it... clearly > another stereotype of us computer geeks! > > > <---SNIP---> > front; all *real* high-powered computers have glowing bubble columns. >
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
John: Touché'. I somehow missed that one. I do remember the acoustic coupler, but I wasn't quick enough to pick up on the tone dial and put two and two together. Its all part of the Hollywood fantasy. As one great actor said: "Movies is magic." ETH <---SNIP---> autodialling with a ACOUSTIC coupled modem. I distinctly remember seeing the handset of the phone in the acoustic modem. Oh, and the phone was PULSE dialled, not TONE dialed, to boot.
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
Wasnt there somone who twiddle 'doom' so that the 'monsters' were processes and used it to manage the system? I vaguely recall hearing about that. |-+> | | "Hall, Ken (IDS | | | ECCS)" | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>| | | Sent by: Linux on| | | 390 Port | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | IST.EDU> | | || | || | | 11/06/2003 07:16 | | | AM | | | Please respond to| | | Linux on 390 Port| | || |-+> >--| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries | >--| A number of years ago I worked on a project that involved donating computers and software to police departments, so we had a lot of press coverage. The computer was an old mini that was one of the first ones without a front panel. Just a plain beige metal box with a couple of big clunky disk drives attached. No tape drives. We did backups disk-to-disk. The TV crews were beside themselves that there was nothing "interesting" to show. One crew came into our office early in the process, and ended up filming a couple of pieces that had nothing to do with the project, but had blinking lights and spinning tapes. For a while we considered replacing the plain metal panels on the mini with smoked plexiglass in chrome frames to show the diagnostic lights inside, but nobody would go for the idea. I think IBM is aware of this to a degree. The new CMOS boxes are a lot cooler looking than, say, a 4381, but maybe something like a lava-lamp SAD display on an LCD display on the front would be nice? Actually, there's an X app that displays Linux system activity as Lava-lamp like blobs, so this wouldn't be that hard to do. > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Edwin Handschuh > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries > > > Adam: > > I like where you're going with this idea... People's perception of a > computer are completely out of line with reality. I know > this is a bit off > track, but it does remind me of the movie "War Games". I distinctly > remember a chubby guy (computer geek) sticking his head in a > 3420 tape drive > (vacuum door opened) and saying "I've checked the computer > and I can't find > the bug anywhere". Well, maybe if you got your head out of > the tape drive > and logged on to the machine you might stand a chance! > Clearly someone in > Hollywood thought the 3420 looked more like a computer than the actual > machine (not that the WOPR really looked like one either). > Come to think of > it, didn't the WOPR have a lot of blinking lights and > possibly bubble tubes? > > ETH > > PS: Chubby did have a pocket protector with pencils/pens in > it... clearly > another stereotype of us computer geeks! > > > <---SNIP---> > front; all *real* high-powered computers have glowing bubble columns. >
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
Yes, I just ran accross this a couple of weeks back. Here be the link http://www.cs.unm.edu/~dlchao/flake/doom/ > -Original Message- > From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:46 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries > > > Wasnt there somone who twiddle 'doom' so that the 'monsters' > were processes > and used it to manage the system? I vaguely recall hearing about that. > > > |-+> > | | "Hall, Ken (IDS | > | | ECCS)" | > | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>| > | | Sent by: Linux on| > | | 390 Port | > | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| > | | IST.EDU> | > | || > | || > | | 11/06/2003 07:16 | > | | AM | > | | Please respond to| > | | Linux on 390 Port| > | || > |-+> > > >- > -| > | >| > | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >| > | cc: >| > | Subject: Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries >| > > >- > -| > > > > > A number of years ago I worked on a project that involved donating > computers and software to police departments, so we had a lot of press > coverage. > > The computer was an old mini that was one of the first ones > without a front > panel. Just a plain beige metal box with a couple of big clunky disk > drives attached. No tape drives. We did backups > disk-to-disk. > > The TV crews were beside themselves that there was nothing > "interesting" to > show. One crew came into our office early in the process, > and ended up > filming a couple of pieces that had nothing to do > with the project, but had blinking lights and spinning tapes. > > For a while we considered replacing the plain metal panels on > the mini with > smoked plexiglass in chrome frames to show the diagnostic > lights inside, > but nobody would go for the idea. > > I think IBM is aware of this to a degree. The new CMOS boxes > are a lot > cooler looking than, say, a 4381, but maybe something like a > lava-lamp SAD > display on an LCD display on the front would be nice? > Actually, there's an X app that displays Linux system > activity as Lava-lamp > like blobs, so this wouldn't be that hard to do. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > > Edwin Handschuh > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:18 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries > > > > > > Adam: > > > > I like where you're going with this idea... People's > perception of a > > computer are completely out of line with reality. I know > > this is a bit off > > track, but it does remind me of the movie "War Games". I distinctly > > remember a chubby guy (computer geek) sticking his head in a > > 3420 tape drive > > (vacuum door opened) and saying "I've checked the computer > > and I can't find > > the bug anywhere". Well, maybe if you got your head out of > > the tape drive > > and logged on to the machine you might stand a chance! > > Clearly someone in > > Hollywood thought the 3420 looked more like a computer than > the actual > > machine (not that the WOPR really looked like one either). > > Come to think of > > it, didn't the WOPR have a lot of blinking lights and > > possibly bubble tubes? > > > > ETH > > > > PS: Chubby did have a pocket protector with pencils/pens in > > it... clearly > > another stereotype of us computer geeks! > > > > > > <---SNIP---> > > front; all *real* high-powered computers have glowing > bubble columns. > > >
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 07:44, McKown, John wrote: > What I loved about war games was that the "hacker's" computer was somehow > autodialling with a ACOUSTIC coupled modem. I distinctly remember seeing the > handset of the phone in the acoustic modem. Oh, and the phone was PULSE > dialled, not TONE dialed, to boot. Just to make sure the point is clear: my first modem *could* do autodialling, without tone capability. It obviously was not acoustic-coupled, but it *did* do pulse dialling. Still does, in fact. It's right over here: a Hayes Micromodem 300. It's a Hayes modem that long predates the Hayes command set. Adam
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 08:45, James Melin wrote: > Wasnt there somone who twiddle 'doom' so that the 'monsters' were processes > and used it to manage the system? I vaguely recall hearing about that. Yeah. It makes process killing pretty splendidly interactive. Adam
IBM Linux webcast archive
I just stumbled across this site and thought it worth sharing. The url is http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/events/callib.html To quote from the site: Teleconference Call Library Come into the library to listen to the calls you missed. We will post previously held calls for at least six months. Most replays will be posted within five working days of the call date. Lionel B. Dyck, Systems Software Lead Kaiser Permanente Information Technology 25 N. Via Monte Ave Walnut Creek, Ca 94598 Phone: (925) 926-5332 (tie line 8/473-5332) E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sametime: (use Lotus Notes address) AIM:lbdyck
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
for the curious - http://www.cs.unm.edu/~dlchao/flake/doom/ f At 09:10 AM 11/6/2003 -0600, you wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 08:45, James Melin wrote: > Wasnt there somone who twiddle 'doom' so that the 'monsters' were processes > and used it to manage the system? I vaguely recall hearing about that. Yeah. It makes process killing pretty splendidly interactive. Adam Cole Software LLC www.colesoft.com Phone : 540.456.6164 Fax : 540.456.6658 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
On Wednesday, 11/05/2003 at 04:53 CST, Adam Thornton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Finally, everyone *knows* it's not a high-performance machine unless > it's liquid-cooled. Get with the program, guys! Go check your z990 specs! It has on-board refrigeration with fan back-up. :-) (z900 may have it , too...i don't remember) Alan Altmark Sr. Software Engineer IBM z/VM Development
Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
Ref: Your note of 6 November 2003, 12:18:28 -0500 (attached) The z900 does also, and the G6. I'm not sure about the G5.. The z800 is all air cooled. (My lawnmower is liquid cooled. Does that mean it is high performance too? ;-) Bruce Hayden IBM Global Services - Note follows -- Date: 6 November 2003, 12:18:28 -0500 From: Alan Altmark Subject: Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries Go check your z990 specs! It has on-board refrigeration with fan back-up. :-) (z900 may have it , too...i don't remember) Alan Altmark Sr. Software Engineer IBM z/VM Development
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
On Thursday, 11/06/2003 at 12:22 EST, Bruce Hayden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The z900 does also, and the G6. I'm not sure about the G5.. The z800 > is all air cooled. (My lawnmower is liquid cooled. Does that mean > it is high performance too? ;-) I've seen your lawnmower. That would be a big "No". Alan Altmark Sr. Software Engineer IBM z/VM Development
It had to happen eventually. Though I'm not sure why....
http://www.penguicon.org/index.php?p=General_Info.html
Re: It had to happen eventually. Though I'm not sure why....
I'm not sure why you think this is anything new. I'm pretty sure this is how LinuxWorld, the Atlanta conference, etc., got started. The commingling of Linux and Science Fiction is a bit of a twist, but not much of one. Since this is only about a 30 minute drive from where I live, I might have to check this out. Mark Post -Original Message- From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: It had to happen eventually. Though I'm not sure why http://www.penguicon.org/index.php?p=General_Info.html
Re: It had to happen eventually. Though I'm not sure why....
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 12:21:42PM -0600, James Melin wrote: > http://www.penguicon.org/index.php?p=General_Info.html I went to the first one, and while it was a bit disorganized, it was an absolute blast. If I can swing it, I'll be back to the second one.
Re: It had to happen eventually. Though I'm not sure why....
Jay, If you do, let me know so we can hook up again. I'm really sorry I missed the first one. I would have loved to meet Terry Pratchett. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Jay Maynard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: It had to happen eventually. Though I'm not sure why On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 12:21:42PM -0600, James Melin wrote: > http://www.penguicon.org/index.php?p=General_Info.html I went to the first one, and while it was a bit disorganized, it was an absolute blast. If I can swing it, I'll be back to the second one.
Re: It had to happen eventually. Though I'm not sure why....
My wife has had the pleasure of talking shop with Terry Pratchett at worldcon for like 6 hours over the course of one convention. Has even been on a couple panels with him. He's marvelous. |-+> | | "Post, Mark K" | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | m> | | | Sent by: Linux on| | | 390 Port | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | IST.EDU> | | || | || | | 11/06/2003 12:40 | | | PM | | | Please respond to| | | Linux on 390 Port| | || |-+> >--| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: It had to happen eventually. Though I'm not sure why | >--| Jay, If you do, let me know so we can hook up again. I'm really sorry I missed the first one. I would have loved to meet Terry Pratchett. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Jay Maynard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: It had to happen eventually. Though I'm not sure why On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 12:21:42PM -0600, James Melin wrote: > http://www.penguicon.org/index.php?p=General_Info.html I went to the first one, and while it was a bit disorganized, it was an absolute blast. If I can swing it, I'll be back to the second one.
ZDNet Article: Is Novell-SuSE deal a brilliant Big Blue power pla y?
An interesting article regarding the possible brokering of the Novell/SUSE deal by IBM as a means to short-circuit SCO's lawsuit against IBM. http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/novell_suse.html The reason the article is interesting is explained in part by another article that has this commentary in it: In particular, the acquisition plan could indicate that IBM has faith in a provision that Radcliffe termed a "silver bullet" in the 1995 Asset Purchase Agreement, under which Novell sold Unix to SCO Group's predecessor. Under that provision, Novell is permitted to waive potential violations of the Unix license agreements that were in effect when it sold Unix, and Novell invoked the right in the IBM case against SCO. "Maybe (IBM) believes its silver bullet is actually a platinum bullet. If you spend a lot of money, you obviously have a lot of confidence in that part of the situation," Radcliffe said. http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5101680.html?tag=nefd_pop Mark Post
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
Well, IBM has painted the zSeries black, put a "cool" copper reflective strip on it, and changed the door locks! The external cables are orange for ESCON and bright yellow for FICON. The only problem is that they now look exactly like the new pSeries boxes! = Jim Sibley Implementor of Linux on zSeries in the beautiful Silicon Valley "Computer are useless.They can only give answers." Pablo Picasso __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
Okay, now add a slave display from the Service Element to the front door, and put up a cool screensaver, such as [EMAIL PROTECTED], and you've got something. Besides, it would give the operator/technician something to look at when things go wrong, so he doesn't have to open the back door. Especially important if he doesn't have one of those new keys for the new locks. > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Jim > Sibley > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries > > > Well, IBM has painted the zSeries black, put a "cool" > copper reflective strip on it, and changed the door > locks! The external cables are orange for ESCON and > bright yellow for FICON. > > The only problem is that they now look exactly like > the new pSeries boxes! > > = > Jim Sibley > Implementor of Linux on zSeries in the beautiful Silicon Valley > > "Computer are useless.They can only give answers." Pablo Picasso > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree >
Re: SCO Attacks Open Source License
Romney wrote: "On behalf of all Canadians, ... We're all sorry. Really. And keep your head up, especially on the ice." Hear, Hear, to the Canadians - at least they're the world "Rock, Paper, Scissor" Champs of the world. http://www.rpschamps.com/media.html = Jim Sibley Implementor of Linux on zSeries in the beautiful Silicon Valley "Computer are useless.They can only give answers." Pablo Picasso __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
Hello (again) from Gregg C Levine Hmm.. What I loved about the film, was the kid's computer. It was supposed to be an S-100 based unit, one of the IMSAI jobs. And naturally the modem as well. Come to think of it, that annoying habit of dialing for modems, started around then. But your right John. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda ) > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > McKown, John > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:44 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries > > What I loved about war games was that the "hacker's" computer was somehow > autodialling with a ACOUSTIC coupled modem. I distinctly remember seeing the > handset of the phone in the acoustic modem. Oh, and the phone was PULSE > dialled, not TONE dialed, to boot. > > > -- > John McKown > Senior Systems Programmer > UICI Insurance Center > Applications & Solutions Team > +1.817.255.3225 > > This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information > intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is > protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete > this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or > distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is > strictly prohibited. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Edwin Handschuh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 5:18 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries > > > > > > Adam: > > > > I like where you're going with this idea... People's perception of a > > computer are completely out of line with reality. I know > > this is a bit off > > track, but it does remind me of the movie "War Games". I distinctly > > remember a chubby guy (computer geek) sticking his head in a > > 3420 tape drive > > (vacuum door opened) and saying "I've checked the computer > > and I can't find > > the bug anywhere". Well, maybe if you got your head out of > > the tape drive > > and logged on to the machine you might stand a chance! > > Clearly someone in > > Hollywood thought the 3420 looked more like a computer than the actual > > machine (not that the WOPR really looked like one either). > > Come to think of > > it, didn't the WOPR have a lot of blinking lights and > > possibly bubble tubes? > > > > ETH
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 02:00:27PM -0500, Gregg C Levine wrote: > Hmm.. What I loved about the film, was the kid's computer. It was > supposed to be an S-100 based unit, one of the IMSAI jobs. And > naturally the modem as well. Smile when you say that, pardner...my first computer (which I still own) started out in life as an IMSAI (though without the front panel; even though it was problematic, I still regret the decision not to get one), and I own a Hayes Micromodem 100 board for it. I believe that you could get an acoustic coupler to plug into that. The Micromodem 100 would do pulse (but not tone) dialing, as well, if it were hooked up to the phone line directly.
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 19:53, Jim Sibley wrote: > The only problem is that they now look exactly like > the new pSeries boxes! A few tri-color fans and some neon tubes should fit in any budget for a new zSeries machine. Anyone ready for a web site devoted to zSeries casemodding then? ;-) The first S/390 casemod that I know of was done by Gary who put a see-through side on his P/390 because he was told not to operate it without a cover. Rob
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
Hello from Gregg C Levine And why wouldn't I? Thank you for bringing that up. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda ) > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Jay Maynard > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:03 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 02:00:27PM -0500, Gregg C Levine wrote: > > Hmm.. What I loved about the film, was the kid's computer. It was > > supposed to be an S-100 based unit, one of the IMSAI jobs. And > > naturally the modem as well. > > Smile when you say that, pardner...my first computer (which I still own) > started out in life as an IMSAI (though without the front panel; even though > it was problematic, I still regret the decision not to get one), and I own a > Hayes Micromodem 100 board for it. I believe that you could get an acoustic > coupler to plug into that. > > The Micromodem 100 would do pulse (but not tone) dialing, as well, if it > were hooked up to the phone line directly.
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
> > Finally, everyone *knows* it's not a high-performance machine unless > > it's liquid-cooled. Get with the program, guys! > Go check your z990 specs! It has on-board refrigeration with > fan back-up. > :-) (z900 may have it , too...i don't remember) Yeah, but you don't get a neat clear panel so you can *see* the PFCL splash around, and there's no place to put filters, oxygenation equipment, and fish in the system. (No joke -- there is a special model of the Cray J90 with a window into the PFCL processor coolant system that allows using the visible reservoir as a fish tank. Has special filters and oxy equipment to keep the fish aereated. It was manufactured for a Japanese company). HW RPQ, anyone? -- db
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
How about George Madl's new mower? Given his grief with it, it *better* perform, as well as make julienne fries...8-) -- db David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates > > The z900 does also, and the G6. I'm not sure about the > G5.. The z800 > > is all air cooled. (My lawnmower is liquid cooled. Does that mean > > it is high performance too? ;-) > > I've seen your lawnmower. That would be a big "No". > > Alan Altmark > Sr. Software Engineer > IBM z/VM Development >
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 13:03, Rob van der Heij wrote: > A few tri-color fans and some neon tubes should fit in any > budget for a new zSeries machine. Anyone ready for a web site > devoted to zSeries casemodding then? ;-) The first S/390 casemod > that I know of was done by Gary who put a see-through side on > his P/390 because he was told not to operate it without a cover. If I didn't *like* my PC Server 325's case so much. (of course, that *is* a casemod. Just not an exciting one) Adam
OT: RE: It had to happen eventually. Though I'm not sure why....
OK, I gotta say it: "Take them to Detroit!" (*evil laugh*) -- db David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates (obscure reference: see Kentucky Fried Movie if you want to Fully Understand (tm).) > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Post, Mark K > > Mark Post > > -Original Message- > From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 20:13, David Boyes wrote: > (No joke -- there is a special model of the Cray J90 with a window into the > PFCL processor coolant system that allows using the visible reservoir as a > fish tank. Has special filters and oxy equipment to keep the fish aereated. > It was manufactured for a Japanese company). Yes Sir. And this is why &deity. called them Crayfish since then ;-) [Yelling] Adam! David is after your cough syrup again! Rob
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 13:57, Rob van der Heij wrote: > [Yelling] Adam! David is after your cough syrup again! Too late, I think. Adam
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
I have a gutted G-3 in my garage. Anyone want the CF cards? Or the power supply parts? I use it as a toolbox, so I really LIKE the old door locks. Means some schmoe wont be able to figure out how to get into it if they break in the garage |-+> | | "Hall, Ken (IDS | | | ECCS)" | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>| | | Sent by: Linux on| | | 390 Port | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | IST.EDU> | | || | || | | 11/06/2003 12:57 | | | PM | | | Please respond to| | | Linux on 390 Port| | || |-+> >--| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries | >--| Okay, now add a slave display from the Service Element to the front door, and put up a cool screensaver, such as [EMAIL PROTECTED], and you've got something. Besides, it would give the operator/technician something to look at when things go wrong, so he doesn't have to open the back door. Especially important if he doesn't have one of those new keys for the new locks. > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Jim > Sibley > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries > > > Well, IBM has painted the zSeries black, put a "cool" > copper reflective strip on it, and changed the door > locks! The external cables are orange for ESCON and > bright yellow for FICON. > > The only problem is that they now look exactly like > the new pSeries boxes! > > = > Jim Sibley > Implementor of Linux on zSeries in the beautiful Silicon Valley > > "Computer are useless.They can only give answers." Pablo Picasso > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree >
Crypto and IFL
Can anyone tell me if it is possible to use a crypto card with an IFL engine? We have a z800 with two standard processors and two IFL processors. We want to add a crypto card so that SuSE SLES8 on an LPAR with the IFLs can offload some of the security processing. IBM's redbook SG24-6870-00 "zSeries Crypto Guide Update" can be read two ways: one way says they will work and one way says they won't. Also, if it does work, how many cards should we get and what kind? PCICC or PCICA? Use the Best! Linux for Servers Macintosh for Graphics Palm for Mobility Windows for Solitaire. Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph.D. VM & Linux Systems Support Enterprise Servers, The Boeing Company (425)865-5940
Re: Crypto and IFL
The z800 comes with two crypto engines "built in". I haven't tried to use them on Linux or z/VM on the IFL yet. I have done some work with them on my test z/OS 1.4 system. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications & Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. > -Original Message- > From: Wolfe, Gordon W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:55 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Crypto and IFL > > > Can anyone tell me if it is possible to use a crypto card > with an IFL engine? We have a z800 with two standard > processors and two IFL processors. We want to add a crypto > card so that SuSE SLES8 on an LPAR with the IFLs can offload > some of the security processing. > > IBM's redbook SG24-6870-00 "zSeries Crypto Guide Update" can > be read two ways: one way says they will work and one way > says they won't. > > Also, if it does work, how many cards should we get and what > kind? PCICC or PCICA? > > Use the Best! Linux for Servers > Macintosh for Graphics > Palm for Mobility > Windows for Solitaire. > Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph.D. VM & Linux Systems Support > Enterprise Servers, The Boeing Company (425)865-5940 >
Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see anything after a command is run
I am trying to re-direct output from tar - the whole list of what it's archiving to a file so I don't see it on my terminal session. I've tried variations of tar -cvzf $HOME/hawkweb.tar /it &2>1 /u/sy4080/tarmessages.txt but I still get teh huge spew and nothing in the file. What did I not remember?
Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run
James, That doesn't work. Why? First, the shell redirects STDERR to *the current STDOUT destination*, you then redirect STDOUT. Try: tar -cvzf $HOME/hawkweb.tar /it >/u/sy4080/tarmessages.txt 2>&1 -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications & Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. > -Original Message- > From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:17 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and > NOT see anything after a command is run > > > I am trying to re-direct output from tar - the whole list of > what it's > archiving to a file so I don't see it on my terminal session. > > I've tried variations of tar -cvzf $HOME/hawkweb.tar /it &2>1 > /u/sy4080/tarmessages.txt but I still get teh huge spew and > nothing in > the file. What did I not remember? >
Bug in Hercules 3.00 RPM distributions
The RPM binary distributions of Hercules 3.00 have a problem and should not be used. The RPMs were built with gcc 2.96 on Red Hat 7.2, and have been affected by an optimizer bug that causes the result of the SRA instruction (and possibly others) to set the condition code incorrectly. This problem only affects the binary RPMs for Linux. The prebuilt binaries for Windows and Mac OS X are not affected, and the source code will produce a working executable if compiled with gcc version 3 or later. Version 3.01 will be released shortly (within the next few days) to correct this problem, as well as various difficulties with the dynamic libraries reported with 3.00 on different systems.
Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries
Hello (again) from Gregg C Levine It's a thought. Yes, sounds like an interesting idea. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda ) > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > James Melin > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries > > I have a gutted G-3 in my garage. Anyone want the CF cards? Or the power > supply parts? > I use it as a toolbox, so I really LIKE the old door locks. Means some > schmoe wont be able to figure out how to get into it if they break in the > garage > > > > |-+> > | | "Hall, Ken (IDS | > | | ECCS)" | > | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>| > | | Sent by: Linux on| > | | 390 Port | > | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| > | | IST.EDU> | > | || > | || > | | 11/06/2003 12:57 | > | | PM | > | | Please respond to| > | | Linux on 390 Port| > | || > |-+> > >- - > | > | | > | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | > | cc: | > | Subject: Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries > | > >- - > | > > > > > Okay, now add a slave display from the Service Element to the front door, > and put up a cool screensaver, such as [EMAIL PROTECTED], and you've got something. > > Besides, it would give the operator/technician something to look at when > things go wrong, so he doesn't have to open the back door. Especially > important if he doesn't have one of those new keys for > the new locks. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Behalf Of Jim > > Sibley > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:53 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries > > > > > > Well, IBM has painted the zSeries black, put a "cool" > > copper reflective strip on it, and changed the door > > locks! The external cables are orange for ESCON and > > bright yellow for FICON. > > > > The only problem is that they now look exactly like > > the new pSeries boxes! > > > > = > > Jim Sibley > > Implementor of Linux on zSeries in the beautiful Silicon Valley > > > > "Computer are useless.They can only give answers." Pablo Picasso > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > >
Re: Crypto and IFL
The PCICC is the Crypto Coprocessor and the PCICA is the Crypto Accelerator which is faster and made for the demands of SSL encryption. SSL will still work with PCICC but not as fast. Richard W. Lauck Cornerstone Systems, Inc. Sr. Systems Programmer IBM Certified S/390 Parallel Sysplex Systems Programmer IBM Certified S/390 Parallel Sysplex Operator IBM Parallel Sysplex Top Gun (425)489-4579 Direct - Home Office (425)453-5166 x9024Voice Mail (425)486-4501 Home (888)505-4534 Pager "Wolfe, Gordon W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] oeing.com> cc: Sent by: Linux onSubject: Crypto and IFL 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU> 11/06/2003 12:55 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port Can anyone tell me if it is possible to use a crypto card with an IFL engine? We have a z800 with two standard processors and two IFL processors. We want to add a crypto card so that SuSE SLES8 on an LPAR with the IFLs can offload some of the security processing. IBM's redbook SG24-6870-00 "zSeries Crypto Guide Update" can be read two ways: one way says they will work and one way says they won't. Also, if it does work, how many cards should we get and what kind? PCICC or PCICA? Use the Best! Linux for Servers Macintosh for Graphics Palm for Mobility Windows for Solitaire. Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph.D. VM & Linux Systems Support Enterprise Servers, The Boeing Company (425)865-5940
Re: Crypto and IFL
On Thursday, 11/06/2003 at 12:55 PST, "Wolfe, Gordon W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anyone tell me if it is possible to use a crypto card with an IFL engine? > We have a z800 with two standard processors and two IFL processors. We want to > add a crypto card so that SuSE SLES8 on an LPAR with the IFLs can offload some > of the security processing. > > IBM's redbook SG24-6870-00 "zSeries Crypto Guide Update" can be read two ways: > one way says they will work and one way says they won't. > > Also, if it does work, how many cards should we get and what kind? PCICC or > PCICA? No, you cannot use crypto with IFLs. Alan Altmark Sr. Software Engineer IBM z/VM Development
Can I use VTS under Linux/390?
Hi, We have a VTS(3494-B18). How can I access and use this VTS under Linux/390? Should I setup DFSMS on z/VM first? Regards, Jae-hwa -- Jae-hwa Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> THE CHALLENGES, that's why I choose LINUX!!! For more information on me, visit http://php.sarang.net
