Re: Comparison of Linux and FreeBSD
On Wed, Jun 09, 1999 at 01:13:36AM +0300, Vadim Vygonets wrote: I will not flame anyone, just point out one correction: Alright. It's only my opinion, so feel free to flame away. 1. Hardware resources 1.1 What is supported, what is not Linux supports more hardware than BSD systems, as a rule. Still, some hardware is supported by BSD system but not by Linux. For example, BSDI supports serial multi-port cards (lots of them), and Linux, AFAIK, does not. The standard Linux kernel comes with support for Comtrol Rocketport, Digiboard Intelligent async (the X* boxes), Digiboard PC/Xx series, SDL Communications RISCom/8, Specialix IO8+, Cyclades, Stallion EasyIO / EasyConnection 8/32 / EC8/64 / ONboard / Brumby, and Hayes ESP. Many of these drivers come with support for features such as swapping pins (for hardware handshaking etc.) I have had great success with PCI Digiboards. In fact, my shop has several console concentrators with up to 48 ports, based on low-end PCs running linux, X/em Digis and two scripts to get the system to act as a terminal server (rather cheaper though). These machines generally achieve very nice uptimes, too. In 2.0 kernels, you did have to patch the kernel with a driver Digi supplied, true, but now it's integrated into 2.2. I have no experience with other multiports. -- believing is seeing [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.forum2.org/gaal/
pci souncard
HI I have a creative ensoniq sound pci card when I do insmod sb.o i get (in /var/log/messages): Jun 9 11:08:03 aristo kernel: Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996 Jun 9 11:08:03 aristo kernel: sb_card: I/O, IRQ, and DMA are mandatory (kernel is 2.0.36) io an irq i get from /proc/pci, but dma ??? is there a dma on pci bus ?? any ideas thanks erez.
Re: Access to MySQL
On 08-Jun-99 Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo wrote: BNM Do any one know or done a port of Hebrew Access to MySQL ? What do you mean "port of Access to MySQL"? Access is the DB engine (in fact, it's Microsoft Jet, IIRC) plus the form builder. Form builder can work with any DB that talks ODBC (including MySQL). DB engine data can be exported to MySQL (via text tab-delimited or alike format). Yes. One caveat, however: Ordering will not work with Hebrew using the default MySQL setup. For example, doing a SELECT...ORDER BY will not correctly sort Hebrew. Fortunately, there is an easy solution: MySQL support many languages, including Hebrew, as compilation-time options. The MySQL manual explain exactly how to change the default language (which is Latin-1). After doing this and recompiling, Hebrew sorting will work fine. Gavrie. -- Gavrie Philipson Netmor Applied Modeling Research Ltd. Bnei Brak, Israel.
Re: Hebrew text mode browser
On Fri, 21 May 1999, Gaal Yahas wrote: GYAnyone ever heard of one? I hate pulling up X every time someone GYsends me a link to a hebrew site.. Did you try to enter in "Options" in lynx v2.8.1? .. Character Set Options Assumed document character set : [windows-1252] Display character set: [Hebrew (ISO-8859-8)] Raw 8-bit: [ON_] .. -- Vadim Smelyansky (AKA Proglot) cellular:+972-54-876933 Wide Networking Solutions Ltd., Yokneam, 20692, Israel
Re: Linux vendor name and version.
"Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you have /etc/redhat-version, it's probably Red Hat. I believe it is /etc/redhat-release -- Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] BLOOMBERG L.P. (BFM) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RedHat 6.0 installation
On Tue, 18 May 1999, Jonathan Alexander Daniel wrote: JADI just got a RedHat 6.0 from CheapBytes for an upgrade from 5.1 JAD JADI booted from DOS using: JAD JADc:\ d: JAD JADd:\ cd \dosutils JAD JADd:\dosutils autoboot.bat JAD JADThe program began to boot into Linux, but then after a series of messages I JADgot the following: JAD JADVFS: cannot open root device 08:21 JADKernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:21 JAD JADThen the computer hangs and I have to get out of this by pushing the reset JADbutton, after which I can get back into both Windows and Linux without JADtrouble, but ofcourse without having upgraded Linux to 6.0. JAD JADCan anyone suggest anything? Yes, please llok into .bat before run it or after you get an error. It is cool to look into scripts you lanched before ask questions :) It is error in autoboot.bat: initrd parameter contain wrong pathname to root image. solution: just run by hand next command F:/ cd dosutils F:/dosutils loadlin autoboot/linux initrd=autoboot/initrd.img simple, yeaah? -- Vadim Smelyansky (AKA Proglot) cellular:+972-54-876933 Wide Networking Solutions Ltd., Yokneam, 20692, Israel
Re: NT vs Linux
On Sat, 22 May 1999, Isaac Aaron wrote: IA "Lack of a Journaling file system - IA file system may not recover after IA unplanned downtime" IA- Since I don't know of any journaling capabilities IAof the ext2, I suppose they're right. What rigth? second statement - lie. I tried several times to press reset - its recover - beleave me, and NT does not :) I seen that yesterday for example :) Usually I silently press reset on linux box to answer customer question: "What happened if power go away?" -- Vadim Smelyansky (AKA Proglot) cellular:+972-54-876933 Wide Networking Solutions Ltd., Yokneam, 20692, Israel
Re: help me delete linux!
Isaac Aaron wrote: the rookie wrote: i can't delete the partitions with fdisk (linux and dos versions) what do i do?! Go to your BIOS setup and low-level format your hard disk. You're kidding. 1. Not every bios offers low level format. (some of us have to buy software to do that, i believe ontrack makes a format utility) 2. And what if he has important stuff on other partitions? 3. Why not just repartition and change the MBR? If I'm not mistaking both can be done via DOS' fdisk. 4. IIRC, if you don't format correctly you may encounter many new bad sectors. -- The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck, is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners...
Re: sh script Q
Vadim Smelyansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 18 May 1999, Vadim Vygonets wrote: VVAnyway, does anybody in this world use 'test' instead of '['? For what? for longer strings in script? :) test -w foo do_sth_with foo looks more readable than [ -w foo ] do_sth_with foo and is only 1 char longer, and is shorter than if [ -w foo ]; then do_sth_with foo; fi I actually use the first form in my scripts and prefer it to the second one). Otherwise, just kidding ;-) -- Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] BLOOMBERG L.P. (BFM) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux vendor name and version.
Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo writes:
HT Does anybody know how to check by command a vendor name and version on a
HT connected computer ?
HT
HT ('uname -a' gives the OS name and kernel version but not the vendor name
HT and version)
If you have /etc/redhat-version, it's probably Red Hat. If you have
/var/adm/packages and /var/adm/scripts and /var/adm/disk_contents - it's
probably Slackware. Don't know about other distributuions, but surely
there are marks of them also.
/etc/debian_version for Debian.
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Re: a small disk question
On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Henry Ficher wrote: Naturally, but you said you were getting a new disk.. So I assumed it wont be factory formated with ext2fs ;) --Ariel BTW, while investigating this I found that tune2fs also uses a -m flag to specify the percentage of reserved blocks for the super-user, only without having to format the disk. ___ Henry Ficher [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 7130104 - Original Message - From: Ariel Biener [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Henry Ficher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Constantin Eizner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 11:22 AM Subject: Re: a small disk question On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Henry Ficher wrote: Hi, First of all, what you said doesn't apply at all for SCSI. Second, a carefull reading of the mke2fs man page would have revealed this: -m reserved-blocks-percentage Specify the percentage of reserved blocks for the super-user. This value defaults to 5%. Now, 5% of a 9.2GB disk results in: 460Mbytes And this is exactly how much was missing from the drive when one did `df'. This is a common problem, I think it was even asked on this list once or twice. --Ariel Sorry to contradict you, Ariel, but some bioses DO have an 8.4GB limitation (not 8.3GB as I stated before) . Here's a quote from Western Digital's website (http://www.westerndigital.com/service/FAQ/8-4.html#1): "In order to properly support an 8.4 GB or larger IDE drive, your system's BIOS must be capable of supporting INT13 Extensions.At this writing, only a few BIOS's on some (but not all) new systems support these functions." The Large disk HOWTO also mentions BIOS problems: "11.1 BIOS complications As just mentioned,large disks return the geometry C=16383, H=16, S=63 independent of the actual size, while the actual size is returned in the value of LBAcapacity. Some BIOSes do not recognize this, and translate this 16383/16/63 into something with fewercylinders and more heads, for example 1024/255/63 or 1027/255/63. So, the kernel must not only recognize the single geometry 16383/16/63, but also all BIOS-mangled versions of it. Since 2.2.2 this is done correctly (by taking the BIOS idea of H and S, and computing C = capacity/(H*S)). Usually this problem is solved by setting the disk to Normal in the BIOS setup (or, even better, to None, not mentioning it at all to the BIOS). If that is impossible because you have to boot from it or use it also with DOS/Windows, and upgrading to 2.2.2 or later is not an option, use kernel boot parameters." All this refers to IDE drives, of course. I don't know about SCSI. I read the mke2fs man page but still can't see how it applies. Could you please explain how to figure out the right value for the reserved percentage for root? Or maybe give me an URL where to read about this? +---+ | Ariel Biener | | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work phone: 03-6406086 | | fingerprint = 07 D1 E5 3E EF 6D E5 82 0B E9 21 D4 3C 7D 8B BC | +---+
unsubscribe!
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RE: help me delete linux!
I suggest you to use Norton Disk Doctor, to patch you partitions, I have to use it after I tried to delete Linux partitions from NT, may be in your case it may help too. (After that you should use Linux fdisk to change your Partitions as you wish) @Maxim -Original Message- From: Net Gene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 3:15 PM To: Yoni Elhanani Cc: Isaac Aaron; the rookie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: help me delete linux! What you have to do is get PartitionMagic, or the latest version of Fips, both can partition FAT disks without deleting/formating (LOOSING!!!) ALL YOUR INFORMATION!!!... And there is also a HOWTO on how to install linux and windows 95/98 without deleting it. look for it. -- Yoni Elhanani wrote: Isaac Aaron wrote: the rookie wrote: i can't delete the partitions with fdisk (linux and dos versions) what do i do?! Go to your BIOS setup and low-level format your hard disk. You're kidding. 1. Not every bios offers low level format. (some of us have to buy software to do that, i believe ontrack makes a format utility) 2. And what if he has important stuff on other partitions? 3. Why not just repartition and change the MBR? If I'm not mistaking both can be done via DOS' fdisk. 4. IIRC, if you don't format correctly you may encounter many new bad sectors. -- The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck, is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners... -- Samuel - NetGene Jerusalem - Israel Quote of the milenium: "... I'm home!!!..." PLEASE!!! REPLY TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ONLY!!! My homepage: http://ajla.webjump.com Protect YOUR privacy, boycott Intel: http://www.bigbrotherinside.org
Is there any Linux GURU ???
Subject: ~"Shared library can't be found" msg. Hi, I am sorry for posting the msg. second time, but I really need to understand it: Is anybody know what can be a problem: I am getting message like "ERROR: Shared library can't be loaded, file liblang.so.4 not found" (I am not remeber the exact form of the error) But, I have file liblang.so.4 present in my /lib directory, after I run ldconfig -v, the file still can't be found, and ldconfig -p show what ld.cache have link to liblang.so.4 file. What could I miss? (My system is RH6.0) Thank's, @Maxim
Re: NT vs Linux
Quoth Vadim Smelyansky on Wed, Jun 09, 1999: On Sat, 22 May 1999, Isaac Aaron wrote: IA "Lack of a Journaling file system - IA file system may not recover after IA unplanned downtime" IA- Since I don't know of any journaling capabilities IAof the ext2, I suppose they're right. What rigth? second statement - lie. I tried several times to press reset - its recover - beleave me, and NT does not :) Not always. Sometimes, when you press reset, Linux filesystem ends up in a completely broken state. It doesn't happen much, though -- happened to me only several times. Usually I silently press reset on linux box to answer customer question: "What happened if power go away?" Hmm. Usually I just silently cut my hand with a knife to answer customer question: "What happened if you are not careful and cut yourself accidentially?". Surely, the body will heal itself in few days, but it's not the desirable situation. Vadik. -- Any language that involves exposing private parts to friends is a tad suspect... -- Geoff Lane in the Monastery, about C++
Re: unsubscribe!
Its realy easy. Though i cant add to what is already wiriten in the linux page http://www.linux.org.il/mailing-list.html the next line is from the homepage of linux il !!! Unsubscribing from the List To unsubscribe send an E-mail message to Linux-IL Requestwith the word "unsubscribe" as the message body. What is so hard ?? and if its not working look at the above page for the Reporting Problems All is so clear, it cant be more clearer. Arieh Bibliowicz wrote: how do i unsubscribe ??? (and don't tell me to follow instructions from homepage because I did and it wont let me!) vainolo -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il --
SSH/SSH2
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Re: SSH/SSH2
Ben Nes Michael wrote: Hi Can ssh2 work aginst ssh1 ? -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- Just getting into this. From the documentation of the "ssh-2.0.12" package: (from "SSH2.QUICKSTART") " Compatibility with SSH1 -- SSH2 can be compatible with SSH1, but is NOT compatible by default. First, SSH2 requires clients and a server of SSH1 to be compatible. You will need to obtain and install SSH version 1.2.26 or later. For the version 1.2.23 and probably any previous releases of SSH1 did NOT work with SSH2 in our testing. I don't know about versions 1.2.24 and 1.2.25. Upgrade to the latest SSH1 before installing SSH2. After installing proper versions of SSH1 and SSH2, now you should edit SSH2's configuration files, which are normally placed at the directory "/etc/ssh2/". The configuration is described later. " Boaz.
web spider - crowler
Hi evryone, I need a utility that will map all my site link to a html file (site map). Does anyone know of such a utility ? Thanks, Mike Almogy Mofet System Administrator. Pho :972-03-6901417 Cel :972-052-562237 Fax :972-03-6901414
Re: Solaris with Linux and NT
I hope this would help you: http://www.sun.com/software/linux/docs/dual_boot.html good luck From: "Shenderovich, Uri" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Solaris with Linux and NT Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:22:58 +0300 Hi, I have partitioned my disk by Partition Magic and no Linux nor Nt have problems with this. But when I try to install Solaris (2.7) on the same disk,installation complaint something about "Slice beyond extend of partition" Anybody has idea ? BTW I appologize,about slightly off-topic question __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: SSH/SSH2
Quoth Ben Nes Michael on Wed, Jun 09, 1999: Can ssh2 work aginst ssh1 ? You need to install ssh1 for that. ssh2 will execute ssh1 when you connect to an sshd1 host. To enable sshd2 executing sshd1 when connection from ssh1 is received, put the following line into /etc/ssh2/sshd2_config: Ssh1Compatibility yes Vadik. -- To the systems programmer, users and applications serve only to provide a test load.
Re: Mirroring Software Recommendations
From: "Itamar S.-T." [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Aharon (Al) Schkolnik" wrote: Hi. I'm setting up some internal mirroring, and was wondering if anyone can recommend some good mirroring software. I've located a bunch of possibilities on the web, but don't know which is "good". rsync is supposed to be good and faster than regular mirroring, but I've never used it, so I can't say more. It can run over ssh I think if security is an issue. I use rsync to mirror the kernel archive at gezernet and can testify that it works "as advertised" and better. You can run it every few minutes to update the files without noticing any cpu or network hit. --Amos --Amos Shapira | "Of course Australia was marked for | glory, for its people had been chosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] | by the finest judges in England." | -- Anonymous
Re: web spider - crowler
MA Hi evryone, MA I need a utility that will map all my site link to a html file (site MA map). MA Does anyone know of such a utility ? There's a thing called Linbot - look at it, it might help. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-3-9316425/\ JRRT LotR. http://sharat.co.il/frodo/ whois:!SM8333
Re: NT vs Linux
Hi Vadim Vygonets wrote: Quoth Vadim Smelyansky on Wed, Jun 09, 1999: On Sat, 22 May 1999, Isaac Aaron wrote: IA "Lack of a Journaling file system - IA file system may not recover after IA unplanned downtime" IA- Since I don't know of any journaling capabilities IAof the ext2, I suppose they're right. What rigth? second statement - lie. I tried several times to press reset - its recover - beleave me, and NT does not :) Not always. Sometimes, when you press reset, Linux filesystem ends up in a completely broken state. It doesn't happen much, though -- happened to me only several times. I must add, that there are things that e2fsck can't fix at all - e.g. I once had a hardware problem, and fsck moved some files to /lost+found, with permissions that didn't let me delete them no matter what I did. I had to remove them manually with debugfs. OTOH, just today my colleague reinstalled NT on a server with 4 data disks, and the new NT could not recognize 2 of them (each had an NTFS partition on the whole disk). You can't fsck (chkdsk?) an unrecognized fs, can you? Usually I silently press reset on linux box to answer customer question: "What happened if power go away?" Hmm. Usually I just silently cut my hand with a knife to answer customer question: "What happened if you are not careful and cut yourself accidentially?". Surely, the body will heal itself in few days, but it's not the desirable situation. Although I agree, if you do it after 30 (as a default) seconds of total inactivity, and let update sync, you are (almost) completely safe. Vadik. -- Any language that involves exposing private parts to friends is a tad suspect... -- Geoff Lane in the Monastery, about C++ didi
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hi, im taking advance linux course in sivan, if any one have any idea how is it?or if any1 taking the same course please let me know:) thanx!
Re: NT vs Linux
Quoth Yedidya Bar-david on Thu, Jun 10, 1999: I must add, that there are things that e2fsck can't fix at all - e.g. I once had a hardware problem, and fsck moved some files to /lost+found, with permissions that didn't let me delete them no matter what I did. Something like that once happened to me on Linux, too. OTOH, just today my colleague reinstalled NT on a server with 4 data disks, and the new NT could not recognize 2 of them (each had an NTFS partition on the whole disk). NT is Not There, no further proof is needed. You can't fsck (chkdsk?) an unrecognized fs, can you? I don't think you can. But then, who am I to talk about abdominations like NT? I don't touch this shit. Usually I silently press reset on linux box to answer customer question: "What happened if power go away?" I wrote: Hmm. Usually I just silently cut my hand with a knife to answer customer question: "What happened if you are not careful and cut yourself accidentially?". Surely, the body will heal itself in few days, but it's not the desirable situation. Although I agree, if you do it after 30 (as a default) seconds of total inactivity, and let update sync, you are (almost) completely safe. True. But it's the word 'almost' that buggers me. UNIX filesystems (ufs, ffs, ext2) are designed to be reliable in case of power failure, but it's not 100% guarranteed. Vadik. -- To the systems programmer, users and applications serve only to provide a test load.
Searching man pages
hello people. Is there a way to search the entire collection of man pages for keywords ? for example - let's say I want to find (or check if exist) a program that does a certain function, but i don't know what it's name (or even if such a program exist on my system) so I'll want to search the 'Description:' section and look for keywords I specify - is this possible at all ? Oded -- The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. -- Niels Bohr (1885-1962)
Re: web spider - crowler
THANKS ! seams to work just fine look at : http://bigbrother.mofet.macam98.ac.il/linbot (Hope it will work 4 u :-)) Mike "Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo" wrote: MA Hi evryone, MA I need a utility that will map all my site link to a html file (site MA map). MA Does anyone know of such a utility ? There's a thing called Linbot - look at it, it might help. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-3-9316425/\ JRRT LotR. http://sharat.co.il/frodo/ whois:!SM8333 -- Mike Almogy Mofet System Administrator. Pho :972-03-6901417 Cel :972-052-562237 Fax :972-03-6901414
