php3 installation

2000-03-10 Thread Ohad M. Somjen

hi,
i have reinstalled and missing
the mod_php3.c file.

i run redhat 6.2(beta)
where do i find this file

TIA,
Ohad.



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Re: php3 installation

2000-03-10 Thread Ohad M. Somjen

hi,
another question i have is this:
i have two computers connected through 
twisted 10BaseT cable.
one runs:
Red Hat Linux release 6.1.92 (Piglet)
and the other:
Win (yuck - but has hebrew)

my problem begun when i upgraded to the 
new beta redhat. when i try to telnet 
from anywhere in the net, after the connection
is established there is a pause and only
then i get the login prompt !!!

is there a way to eliminate this pause.
the load on the computer is not high (max 1)
and the network is not loaded,

TIA,
Ohad.



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Re:

2000-03-10 Thread Omer




On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, "albert" wrote:


 WITH THE HELP OF GOD!!
 
 I'm writing a work on os'es and I need to find 
 
 the formula that sets the priorety of jobs to the cpu
  as it well known it have to do with :
 nice and aging.
 
 I've looked all-msot every where and didnt able
 to find s I'm greatfool as advanced
 
 albert

Everywhere? 

Andy Tannenbaum had written a book called "Modern Operating Systems", which
describes scheduling and niceing a little. 

Maurice Bach had written an excellent book called "Architecture of UNIX
OS", where he describes scheduling of UNIX in more detail. 

I really do not think that Haifa university will demand more than that (I
know what I am speaking 'bout, and not just speculating)
 
 
 
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Re: A plea for mercy for a bandwidth (was: Re: Argument in favor of ...)

2000-03-10 Thread Omer Zak


On Sat, 11 Mar 2000, Omer wrote:

 Sorry people, what is happening here? 
[... snipped ...]
 ... This is true because such an approach allows
 core develpers to focus on performance and stability, while branch
 developers may focus on features.
[... snipped ...]
 The whole previous message is included just to highlight pointlessness of
 this thread. It may be a good time to stop this discussion, since this list
 does not seem to be a software eng. one. 

I believe that this discussion is important:
1. Because it is about the methodology to be used for developing a word
   processor.
2. Because a decent Hebrew WYSIWYG word processor is the most glaring
   lack of Linux in Israel.
3. Because if the correct methodology is chosen, it will be possible for
   several people from Linux-IL to painlessly contribute to the project.
4. Linus Torvalds said that the most important decision he made about the
   Linux design was the choice of its copyright terms (the GNU license).
   Due to similar reasons, Matan's decisions affecting other people's
   ability to easily contribute to his project are very important.

Remember Matan's complaint that he couldn't contribute to AbiWord et.al. 
due to various reasons?  So he was forced to start developing his own word
processor.

If Matan can avoid those roadblocks in his own project, then he can
concentrate on the core features and let the Linux-IL participants
contribute their branches (as the other Omer suggested), and the road to a
really decent (and even less buggy than MS-Word) word processor will be
surprisingly short.

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Re: A plea for mercy for a bandwidth

2000-03-10 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo

O or something else, when there is guile?
O 
O It is designed from ground up to be as embeddable as beer, and no-one
O requires you (opinionalthough I would like to have such a law passed a
O parliament/opinion) to use scheme syntax. It is the Right thing to use. 

Maybe there's still renegades which are not ready to surrender to the
Great Power of Lisp. In fact, any scripting that is based on Lisp is
unusable for me, and also is unusable for any un-indoctrinated person. No
sane person can understand why it's better to write (let a (plus b c))
than a=b+c. Unless, obviously, he's enliighnened by The Greap Power of
you know what, which somehow about 99% of people aren't... Lisp is unhuman
language, which contradicts everything you know about the real world.
Maybe it's very efficient and structurally rigid, but you need scripting
language to be *easy* and *user-oriented*!

O Use of 2-layer design is highly appreciated in software engineering.
O Programs like Emacs, Autocad, Macsyma, (well, did not use more myself,
O there are plenty more) are very complex, yet very maitainable.

Emacs is maintainable? Good joke. I fear to touch any single bit there,
and belive me, I've programmed very complex things, and have expirience in
the field.

O syntactic sugar (as "Frodo" (Stanyslav Malyshev) had stated, all programs

I'm being quoted? So that's how those celebrities feel...

O are just zeros and ones, (but sometimes a human being just wants to be
O comfortable with computers, (so HLL were invented))).

I'd be really uncomfortable if I'd be forced to share computer with Lisp.
At least if I'd be forced to know about it.

O An OS need a lingua franca. Guile was designed to be such, so all I can say
O - use it, it is worth an effort.

I'd rather use Visual Basic. And I'm serious - I seriously regard effort
spent on adjusting to Visual Basic programming model to be much less that 
on adjusting to Lisp model. I tried both. I could manage to write Word
macros long ago, and I still cannot manage to write Emacs macros -
requires too much effort to justify it.
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Re: Re: A plea for mercy for a bandwidth

2000-03-10 Thread Omer



Dear Stanislav,

Recently you had posted a reply to my message to this list. In this reply
you complained about unusability of LISP as a scripting language. However,
you had missed the point.

guile is embeddable subsystem, which uses scheme variant as a reference
language. Real power of guile comes out when you realize that you can
switch front-end languages at your wish. You can use guile without any
resemblance of scheme - actually you can even make a Visual Basic clone
using guile. Note that latter is rather complicated thing, since you will
have to reproduce every bug and inconsistency.


Regarding your lack of understanding, well, I am sorry for you. It seems
that you had very bad teachers. However, with all my sorry and willigness
to help, I just do not have enough time to devote. If you will have
specific questions - contact me.

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Auto unmuting the sound (was: Auto starting the sound)

2000-03-10 Thread Noam Meltzer


In one of the last week's threads I asked about how to auto start my sound.
Thanks to Ilya Konstantinov, I came back again to ALSA web site.
There I found a very useful util for configuring my modules.conf automatically.
Another question I asked in this previous thread was, how
do I umute the varius devices, automatically, and with the specific settings
I want.
This question wasn't answered yet, and thats my question now.
I'll appriciate your help.
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Re: A plea for mercy for a bandwidth (was: Re: Argument in favorof scripting (was: Re: A wysiwyg hebrew word processor))

2000-03-10 Thread Moshe Zadka

On Sat, 11 Mar 2000, Omer wrote:

 Why should one think about:
 * Embedding Tcl
 * Embedding Perl
 * Embedding ELisp
 or something else, when there is guile?

Simple: why I have a lot of faith in guile, it is pretty much vapourware
at this stage. Yes, there is code to play with, but it isn't there yet:
it is not as embeddable as Python or Tcl, and certainly not as portable.
(I'm not sure it compiles out of the box on Win32, for example). There are
no translators yet (though the Tcl one is in the works.) In short, a
great project which is not complete yet.

 It is designed from ground up to be as embeddable as beer, and no-one
 requires you (opinionalthough I would like to have such a law passed a
 parliament/opinion) to use scheme syntax. It is the Right thing to use. 

Not that currently there are *no* translators.

snipped discussion about why an application with a built in scripting
language is a good thing

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Re: Argument in favor of lightweight (was: Re: Argument...)

2000-03-10 Thread Matan Ziv-Av


On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Moshe Zadka wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Omer Zak wrote: 
  However one of Matan's highest priorities is a lightweight word
  processor.
 
 Exactly! And C is much more heavyweight then Python wink.
 
 Overhead of Python's library: 567K on my system (including everything
 one has to distribute with embedded Python. This probably could be
 trimmed down a bit, but not much). I truly think an extra 567K isn't
 that much, even if one wants to have something lightweight. Note that
 Tcl is probably lighter -- but in return, more of the editor would be
 coded in C.

I think I might have overstated my fear of bloat.
My main goal is to write a word processor that "can be used by school
childern (actually, a specific child :-) to write a paper, with all the
eye candy that they would use in MS-Word", and do it as fast as
possible. If I though using gtk or qt would help me in that goal, I'd
use it. If I thought Python would help, I'd use that.

To make it clear - I am trying to write the pico of hebrew word
processors. Not the emacs of such. 

My choice is certainly affected by my ignorance. I never used gtk, and
rarely looked at programs that do. I only wrote one qt program. I only
looked at one Python program (radiuscontext) and was scared away by
"significant whitespace".

About using a scripting language to enhance an application: this is an
open source program. The scripting language is C and the only limitation
is that "enhancing scripts" need to be available at compile time.

BTW, I just uploaded an even newer version, which could be considered
useful (for small values of useful, naturally.) You can already edit
more than one screenfull, and can select alignment of paragraphs.
 
http://www.arava.co.il/matan/hebrew/ft.tar.gz

  Look, he doesn't even rely upon X libraries, using SVGAlib instead in his
  basic implementation.
 
 This talks more about runtime overhead then distribution overhead: X
 libraries could be linked in dynamically, and not take any place in the 
 distributed binary.

This talks only about one thing - I don't like using a mouse.




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l-icq

2000-03-10 Thread Yosi TOROS

hi  last week  I installed  RedHat 6.0(I am a real babe)
I download  the  l-icq as an rpm  but when I try to
install that package  I am getting  "not a rpm "message
any ideas:)


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Re: l-icq

2000-03-10 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo

looks like your PRM file is corrupted - use BINARY mode (bin command in
FTP) - to download it..

If you're using KDE - then use KXICQ instead. Gnome? GQicq is your
answer :)

Hetz


Yosi TOROS wrote:
 
 hi  last week  I installed  RedHat 6.0(I am a real babe)
 I download  the  l-icq as an rpm  but when I try to
 install that package  I am getting  "not a rpm "message
 any ideas:)
 
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Chili!Soft ASP 4 Linux

2000-03-10 Thread Ronen Engler

http://www.linux.com/newsitem.phtml?sid=1aid=7635

check this out, did anyone d/l this stuff from 
check the
http://www.chilisoft.com/downloads/

is it worth 1000$???



Re: Linux by numbers

2000-03-10 Thread Adi Stav

On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 08:50:13AM +0200, Eli Marmor wrote:
 Adi Stav wrote:
  
  On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 09:40:10AM +0200, Eli Marmor wrote:
   1. The statistics didn't count *users*, but boxes. Each typical UNIX
  has more users connected to, *in average*, than a typical Linux
  box. It will not be a too far gamble to guess that there are more
  non-Linux users than Linux users ("non-Linux" in my words, means
  only other UNIXes, including Solaris/HP-UX/DG-UX/AIX/SCO/Irix/etc.,
  but excluding NT/OS2/mainframe/VMS/Novell/etc.). On the other hand,
  many UNIX users even don't know that they use UNIX.
  
  But what's a user? Someone who runs programs through a VT (e.g. bank
  clerks)? A web client or PPP client?
  
  I remember a statistic saying Linux runs 3 out of 10 of the world's
  busiest web sites (and I may very well be very off here).
 
 Next time, please don't quote *parts* of my message.
 
 I also wrote that even in the general-purpose servers field, where the
 presence of Linux is weaker than in the web servers, it already reached
 25%.
 
 I wrote numbers which are very positive for Linux. Why should you quote
 a reservation and argue with it?

I was not trying to argue or disagree with you; I was just curious how
you'd measure numbers of users, and what you call a user. For example,
maybe VMS or OS/2 deserve to be considered differently once you think
of all the terminal operators in large organizations, or of those
banks' cash withdrawal machines (the American acronym escapes me). 

 In addition, I emphasized that some of the UNIX users even don't know
 they use UNIX, not to credit UNIX, but to credit Linux, where almost
 everybody (of course excluding PPP clients, who are not counted, because
 they run their own OS) knows what OS he runs.

That would depend on what purposs they use it for... What did you have
in mind?
 
 -- 
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- Adi Stav

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Re: Auto unmuting the sound (was: Auto starting the sound)

2000-03-10 Thread Gaal Yahas

On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 10:45:29PM +0200, Noam Meltzer wrote:

 Another question I asked in this previous thread was, how do I umute the
 varius devices, automatically, and with the specific settings I want.
 This question wasn't answered yet, and thats my question now.
 I'll appriciate your help.

man aumix
or
man mixer

(either should work, if they're installed.)

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Re: Argument in favor of scripting (was: Re: A wysiwyg hebrew wo

2000-03-10 Thread Evgeny Stambulchik

On 09-Mar-00 Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
  
  I also have a question: I currently implement printing by rendering (in
  a defined DPI) to a bitmap in a postscript file. I want to print by
  converting the TT fonts to Type42, and imbedding them in the postscript
  file, but I don't know how to do that. If anyone knows of a program that
  makes Type42 fonts fro truetype fonts, and/or of a program that outputs
  ps files with Type42 fonts, please tell me.

http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/Font-HOWTO
http://www.netspace.net.au/~mheath/ttf2pt1/

Regards,

Evgeny

   
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