Re: sound problem in Mandrake 8.0

2001-05-20 Thread Shlomi Fish

On Sat, 19 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a problem with sound since upgrading to Mandrake 8.0. I won't give
 details here since it probably wouldn't interest the list. But if someone
 (preferably with Mandrake 8.0 experience) would be willing to contact me
 directly, I'd appreciate the help and will provide details of my problem.
 
 TIA


Hi!

I upgraded from Mandrake 7.2 to Mandrake 8.0 the day before yesterday.
And sound works fine for me. I'm using EsounD on either GNOME, KDE or
IceWM. I did not try arts yet, so sorry if this is the matter.

I have a SB 128 PCI soundcard, and everything works fine. I remember I had
to set the mixer to a reasonable setting because from some reason the main
volume and the waveform volume were set to half their quantity.

Let me know what your problem is, and I'll see if I can help.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish
 
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Re: Hebrew on IGLU

2001-05-20 Thread Tzafrir Cohen

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 I have what is probably a **silly** problem, but here it is. Although I have
 Hebrew fonts and can see Hebrew in both directions using Konqueror on sites
 like Walla, Ynet, Maariv, and many others, **DAVKA** on IGLU, I can't see
 Hebrew (not that there is very much).

 I'm attaching a snapshot - the quality is very poor, but I wanted to save
 bandwith so I compressed as much as I could (10% JPG).

What about:

http://www.iglu.org.il:8080/Control_Panel/Products/Squishdot/IGLU/969137260/969287917/969374453/index_html

Does it display well?

What font do you use for iso-8859-8 in konquror?

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need powerful linux news client

2001-05-20 Thread Miki Shapiro

Hi all

1. Thx Eli/Ilya for answer on back-resolving a coupla days back. It hit
the spot :-)

2. Can someone recommend a news client for linux that can run over whole
newsgroups and automatically download attachments answering to certain
naming criteria? something like News Agent or Xnews for Windows? I don't
care for a GUI (I handle most of this box via SSH) but I need solid
functionality.

Thanks!

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Linux mail relay + MS Exchange

2001-05-20 Thread Evgeny Popov

That what my company is going to implement in growing amounts at client
sites.

If anyone can share his experience, especialy which freeware/GPL product to
use at Exchange site to pull the mail from Linux using Pop/IMAP. Also some
RTFM links would be great.

Currently we use Redhat + Popbeamer combination, which is not free.

Best Regards,

Evgeny Popov

Comsec Publicom Ltd.


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RE: Linux mail relay + MS Exchange

2001-05-20 Thread Evgeny Popov



 -Original Message-
 From: Tzafrir Cohen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: à 20 îàé 2001 10:24
 To:   Evgeny Popov
 Subject:  Re: Linux mail relay + MS Exchange
 
 On Sun, 20 May 2001, Evgeny Popov wrote:
 
  That what my company is going to implement in growing amounts at client
  sites.
 
  If anyone can share his experience, especialy which freeware/GPL product
 to
  use at Exchange site to pull the mail from Linux using Pop/IMAP. Also
 some
  RTFM links would be great.
 
  Currently we use Redhat + Popbeamer combination, which is not free.
 
 IIRC exchange has such functionality. But why not use SMTP?
 
 We use SMTP (Linux in DMZ with MX record pushes all the mail to
Exchange in LAN) today and going to replace it with much more secure pull.


Evgeny.

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IPSec on 2.4.2/IPv4

2001-05-20 Thread Miki Shapiro

Another Q:

I want my box to suggest (yet not require) IPSec over my IPv4 connection,
especially for incoming sessions.

I have a custom-tailored 2.4.2 as it is, and I didn't find IPSec support
in the config menu. I either missed something or...

Can anyone point it out to me? 
(I also really hope it's available as a module, I don't want to reset my
uptime ... :-))

TIA

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Re: need powerful linux news client

2001-05-20 Thread Shlomi Fish

On Sun, 20 May 2001, Miki Shapiro wrote:

 Hi all
 
 1. Thx Eli/Ilya for answer on back-resolving a coupla days back. It hit
 the spot :-)
 
 2. Can someone recommend a news client for linux that can run over whole
 newsgroups and automatically download attachments answering to certain
 naming criteria? something like News Agent or Xnews for Windows? I don't
 care for a GUI (I handle most of this box via SSH) but I need solid
 functionality.


Well, perl has an NNTP module. So with some hacking, you can program
something that will do just like that, based on regular expressions or
whatever. Do you know perl? If not, I think python, Tcl, Ruby, etc. also
have similar functionality. One of them should do the job.

Otherwise you can try STFEing Freshmeat or Google.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

BTW, I think I'm getting too used to the STFE term. It might leak out of
Linux-IL... 
 
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Re: Linux mail relay + MS Exchange

2001-05-20 Thread Ehud Karni

On Sun, 20 May 2001 10:54:46 +0200, Evgeny Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That what my company is going to implement in growing amounts at client
 sites.

 If anyone can share his experience, especialy which freeware/GPL product to
 use at Exchange site to pull the mail from Linux using Pop/IMAP. Also some
 RTFM links would be great.

 Currently we use Redhat + Popbeamer combination, which is not free.

I probably don't understand the question, so please clarify.

You can automaticly forward every mail to the MS Exchange by various
methods (rule in the sendmail, forward file in general place - I use
/var/spool/mail/.forward/%u, and so on).

The MS exchange client (and Outlook client) has a builtin pop reader
that move the email into the client inbox folder (not the exchange

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Re: need powerful linux news client

2001-05-20 Thread Miki Shapiro

If it will come down to implementing it, I'll use perl.

First, I wanna make sure there isn't something in existance that does this
out-of-the-box.

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On Sun, 20 May 2001, Shlomi Fish wrote:

 On Sun, 20 May 2001, Miki Shapiro wrote:
 
  Hi all
  
  1. Thx Eli/Ilya for answer on back-resolving a coupla days back. It hit
  the spot :-)
  
  2. Can someone recommend a news client for linux that can run over whole
  newsgroups and automatically download attachments answering to certain
  naming criteria? something like News Agent or Xnews for Windows? I don't
  care for a GUI (I handle most of this box via SSH) but I need solid
  functionality.
 
 
 Well, perl has an NNTP module. So with some hacking, you can program
 something that will do just like that, based on regular expressions or
 whatever. Do you know perl? If not, I think python, Tcl, Ruby, etc. also
 have similar functionality. One of them should do the job.
 
 Otherwise you can try STFEing Freshmeat or Google.
 
 Regards,
 
   Shlomi Fish
 
 BTW, I think I'm getting too used to the STFE term. It might leak out of
 Linux-IL... 
  
  Thanks!
  
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Q: Using GNU Autoconf/Automake with proprietary software projects

2001-05-20 Thread Shlomi Fish


As you may well know, GNU Autoconf and Automake are distributed under the
GPL, which means that all the autoconf m4 macros and Bournme shell source
code is also GPLed. At least from what I could see by examining the files.

So, the question is whether it is legally possible to use autoconf for
properiatary software, provided one does not one to expose his build tree.
I have seen autoconf used by a properiatary product (MySQL before it
was GPLed), but in that case it was a sourceware product, which was
distributed with its source. I don't know what was the license of the
source files that could see the autoconf code, but since the source code
was available, it did not matter much to make them under a very
open-source license.

Naturally, autoconf can compile proprietary code because make and the
shell only invoke the compiler on the source code and do not link against
it. However, if I write a configure.in script - must it be distributed
under a GPL compatible license?

I noticed that some of the files that were generated in one of my own
projects (whose license is compatible with the GPL) carried a this is
free software header. They did not say that they were distributed under
the GNU General Public License, but they did not say otherwise either.

So, can anybody knowledgable in the intricates of the GPL and autoconf,
enlighten me?

Regards,

Shlomi Fish




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Re: need powerful linux news client

2001-05-20 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo

Hi,

Well, I can recommend you what I use - a very small and efficient text client 
called brag - search it on freshmeat.net

it's a small application where you put all your arguments in 1 line.

Hetz

On Sunday 20 May 2001 11:26, Miki Shapiro wrote:
 Hi all

 1. Thx Eli/Ilya for answer on back-resolving a coupla days back. It hit
 the spot :-)

 2. Can someone recommend a news client for linux that can run over whole
 newsgroups and automatically download attachments answering to certain
 naming criteria? something like News Agent or Xnews for Windows? I don't
 care for a GUI (I handle most of this box via SSH) but I need solid
 functionality.

 Thanks!

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Re: IPSec on 2.4.2/IPv4

2001-05-20 Thread Ilya Konstantinov

On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 12:59:43PM +0300, Miki Shapiro wrote:
 Another Q:
 
 I want my box to suggest (yet not require) IPSec over my IPv4 connection,
 especially for incoming sessions.

AFAIK, there isn't such thing as suggesting. Using IPSec is basically
establishing a VPN tunnel with you (and possibly with your whole
subnet, if you wish to expose it). First, the hosts handshake and
exchange keys on port 500, then they can talk. For now, establishing
such a connection is a thing one does on purpose -- the kernel doesn't
automagically check if the other host has IPSec open.

 I have a custom-tailored 2.4.2 as it is, and I didn't find IPSec support
 in the config menu. I either missed something or...

No, IPSec isn't merged in, but is available from a project called
FreeS/WAN. http://www.freeswan.org
 
 Can anyone point it out to me? 
 (I also really hope it's available as a module, I don't want to reset my
 uptime ... :-))

I'm afraid you'll need to patch the kernel and restart.

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Re: Q: Using GNU Autoconf/Automake with proprietary software projects

2001-05-20 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo

Well, as long as you don't change any of the autoconf tools - I don't see a 
reason why can't you..

Of course - before everyone flames me - I'll give few examples of 
applications that uses just the same way with gcc which is also, under GPL..

1. Nvidia binary only drivers (compiled with GCC at Nvidia/VA Linux)
2. Matrox binary only module (for dual head - there is a static part)
3. Acrobat Reader
4. VMWare

They all use gcc, VMWare uses autoconf tools also (as much as I understood 
from one of their programmers) - and they all don't give the source for their 
binaries..

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On Sunday 20 May 2001 13:09, Shlomi Fish wrote:
 As you may well know, GNU Autoconf and Automake are distributed under the
 GPL, which means that all the autoconf m4 macros and Bournme shell source
 code is also GPLed. At least from what I could see by examining the files.

 So, the question is whether it is legally possible to use autoconf for
 properiatary software, provided one does not one to expose his build tree.
 I have seen autoconf used by a properiatary product (MySQL before it
 was GPLed), but in that case it was a sourceware product, which was
 distributed with its source. I don't know what was the license of the
 source files that could see the autoconf code, but since the source code
 was available, it did not matter much to make them under a very
 open-source license.

 Naturally, autoconf can compile proprietary code because make and the
 shell only invoke the compiler on the source code and do not link against
 it. However, if I write a configure.in script - must it be distributed
 under a GPL compatible license?

 I noticed that some of the files that were generated in one of my own
 projects (whose license is compatible with the GPL) carried a this is
 free software header. They did not say that they were distributed under
 the GNU General Public License, but they did not say otherwise either.

 So, can anybody knowledgable in the intricates of the GPL and autoconf,
 enlighten me?

 Regards,

   Shlomi Fish




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Re: IPSec on 2.4.2/IPv4

2001-05-20 Thread Miki Shapiro

On Sun, 20 May 2001, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:

 AFAIK, there isn't such thing as suggesting.

Win2K allows you, if you're the client,  to ask the server to use IPSec,
yet fall back to not using it if it refuses. Alternatively, if you're a
paranoid sysadmin with suicidal tendencies and a policy manager, it also
allows you to only agree to let a client application open a connection if
it uses IPSec (if it doesn't, the socket won't let it out at all).

On the receiving side (server application), it's not as flexible,
allowing you to either use, or not use IPSec, but not suggest to
the client, or use, yet fall back to not using it if the client doesn't
know what IPsec is.

I assume that the Linux implementation of IPSec is no less powerful than
microsoft's one.

Having just realized this, the more correct question then would be:

Can I ask my linux box (with this kernel patch) to only use IPSec for
communication on pre-designated TCP ports? (and have other services such
as DNS and SMTP go on working without using IPSec?)

Thx.

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On Sun, 20 May 2001, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:

 On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 12:59:43PM +0300, Miki Shapiro wrote:
  Another Q:
  
  I want my box to suggest (yet not require) IPSec over my IPv4 connection,
  especially for incoming sessions.
 
 AFAIK, there isn't such thing as suggesting. Using IPSec is basically
 establishing a VPN tunnel with you (and possibly with your whole
 subnet, if you wish to expose it). First, the hosts handshake and
 exchange keys on port 500, then they can talk. For now, establishing
 such a connection is a thing one does on purpose -- the kernel doesn't
 automagically check if the other host has IPSec open.
 
  I have a custom-tailored 2.4.2 as it is, and I didn't find IPSec support
  in the config menu. I either missed something or...
 
 No, IPSec isn't merged in, but is available from a project called
 FreeS/WAN. http://www.freeswan.org
  
  Can anyone point it out to me? 
  (I also really hope it's available as a module, I don't want to reset my
  uptime ... :-))
 
 I'm afraid you'll need to patch the kernel and restart.
 
 -- 
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Re: Linux mail relay + MS Exchange

2001-05-20 Thread Eran Levy

why not using pop3d to get mail from MS?

At 12:57 20/05/01 +0300, you wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2001 10:54:46 +0200, Evgeny Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  That what my company is going to implement in growing amounts at client
  sites.
 
  If anyone can share his experience, especialy which freeware/GPL product to
  use at Exchange site to pull the mail from Linux using Pop/IMAP. Also some
  RTFM links would be great.
 
  Currently we use Redhat + Popbeamer combination, which is not free.

I probably don't understand the question, so please clarify.

You can automaticly forward every mail to the MS Exchange by various
methods (rule in the sendmail, forward file in general place - I use
/var/spool/mail/.forward/%u, and so on).

The MS exchange client (and Outlook client) has a builtin pop reader
that move the email into the client inbox folder (not the exchange

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Re: IPSec on 2.4.2/IPv4

2001-05-20 Thread Ilya Konstantinov

On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 02:52:50PM +0300, Miki Shapiro wrote:
 Can I ask my linux box (with this kernel patch) to only use IPSec for
 communication on pre-designated TCP ports? (and have other services such
 as DNS and SMTP go on working without using IPSec?)

As far as I see, there's no way to change the destination route based
on the port (that is, according to man netfilter, there's no such
option). IPSec on Linux raises an ipsec0 interface, and sets up a
routing rule to match the IPs on the other end of the VPN, not the
ports.

Yet again, I'm not sure it's possible to establish IPSec connections to
any accepting host around the world without preconfiguring it.

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Re(2): Linux mail relay + MS Exchange

2001-05-20 Thread Eran Levy

Or I just didnt understand the question. I mean using the in.pop3d with 
sendmail/postfix and then receive the mail in MS. If you will use in.pop3d 
and you will enable it from inetd the 110 port will open and then you will 
be able to receive the mail from MS.
At 13:53 20/05/01 +0200, you wrote:
why not using pop3d to get mail from MS?

At 12:57 20/05/01 +0300, you wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2001 10:54:46 +0200, Evgeny Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
  That what my company is going to implement in growing amounts at client
  sites.
 
  If anyone can share his experience, especialy which freeware/GPL 
 product to
  use at Exchange site to pull the mail from Linux using Pop/IMAP. Also some
  RTFM links would be great.
 
  Currently we use Redhat + Popbeamer combination, which is not free.

I probably don't understand the question, so please clarify.

You can automaticly forward every mail to the MS Exchange by various
methods (rule in the sendmail, forward file in general place - I use
/var/spool/mail/.forward/%u, and so on).

The MS exchange client (and Outlook client) has a builtin pop reader
that move the email into the client inbox folder (not the exchange

Ehud.


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RE: Linux mail relay + MS Exchange

2001-05-20 Thread Evgeny Popov


 How is that more secure?
 
 
This is more secure, because you don't need to allow any connection
from DMZ to your LAN. If you forward all the mail from DMZ to your LAN by
SMTP, you have to allow incoming SMTP connection from Mail Relay to Exchange
that recides in LAN, which is potentialy more dangerous than alowing only
POP3 from LAN to Linux Mail Relay..  

 Doesn't this mean that you have to keep a users list on the DMZ server?
 
No. I keep a single account in Linux, which recieves all the mail
for domain, and Popbeamer (
http://www.dataenter.co.at/products/popbeamer.htm , 129$) or similar Windows
product can  routes them to my Exchange users using POP3. 

 Plus it is added complication, which does not necessarily mean that it is
 good.
 
 I also believe that SMTP has some mechanism for pulling queued messages.
 
Probably not MTA of Exchange.

Evgeny
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Re: IPSec on 2.4.2/IPv4

2001-05-20 Thread Miki Shapiro

On Sun, 20 May 2001, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:

 Yet again, I'm not sure it's possible to establish IPSec connections to
 any accepting host around the world without preconfiguring it.

I seemed to have an idea (or possibly a misconception) that IPSec talked
about generic enctyption on the IP layer - since at some point in time
humanity, IETF, some paranoid sysadmins and the makers of The Conspiracy
Theory decided that plain-text IP packets were not such a good
idea after all and implementing encryption on a 
per-application-protocol-basis (such as SSL, SSH, PGP, sFtp/scp,
etc.) was a positively dumb way to go about the whole thing. (That's not
to mention that every application developer has to implement it, which is
not very far from writing per-application hardware device drivers).

To my understanding, two TCP/IP applications (server and client) wanting
to communicate would neither need to *implement* nor *configure* 
encryption (other than ask for it). They would just get this facility
out-of-the-box from their OS's socket mecnanism (whatever the OS would
be), as part of the TCP/IP envelope. 
And in a better world, all major OS's would support these envelopes,
and the initial key-switching routines that would be required to make them
work. I also understood such a feature would be available in stock IPv6
and IPSec-enabled IPv4 implementations. The whole idea of course being, if
you're the sw developer of a TCP/IP application, You don't HAVE to use
it, but if you need it, it's there for you and you don't need to reinvent
the wheel.

You seem to suggest that all IPSec is - is just yet-another 
pre-configuration-needed (other than installing a socket that
supports it, of course) tunneling method between two points, ( both
of which you need to have superuser access over) of which we seem to have
more than enough at the moment - Cisco's Gre-over-IP, MS-VPN, Checkpoint's
VPN, The linux kernel IP Tunnel (some of these are probbably the same, I'm
not intimately acquainted with them all...) and other FW vendors probbably
have another proprietary protocol or two up their sleeves. 
Moreover, you can't have two clients on host A and two servers on host B
where one pair would be talking encrypted and the other not?

Is IPSec yet-another-one/one-of-the-abovementioned? (with the slight
benefit of being standardized by being part of the IP spec)?

If that's the case, I'm not sure it's what I need at all... :-)

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Re: IPSec on 2.4.2/IPv4

2001-05-20 Thread Ilya Konstantinov

On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 04:35:23PM +0300, Miki Shapiro wrote:
 I seemed to have an idea (or possibly a misconception) that IPSec talked
 about generic enctyption on the IP layer

I thought so too, when I first heard about the term, but now I'm not
too sure. Guys, correct me if I'm wrong.

 more than enough at the moment - Cisco's Gre-over-IP, MS-VPN, Checkpoint's
 VPN, The linux kernel IP Tunnel (some of these are probbably the same, I'm
 not intimately acquainted with them all...) and other FW vendors probbably
 have another proprietary protocol or two up their sleeves. 

Actually, the nice thing about those VPNs and FreeS/WAN is that they all
use the IPSec protocol and thus can interopperate (so you can tunnel
from Linux to Win2K, VPN-1 or a Cisco).

 Moreover, you can't have two clients on host A and two servers on host B
 where one pair would be talking encrypted and the other not?

It's not a feature of the socket (e.g. setting an ENCRYPTED flag) which
the application can control, but simply a route for the packet, just
like ppp0 or eth0.

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Re: IPSec on 2.4.2/IPv4

2001-05-20 Thread Miki Shapiro

Are we *absolutely sure* we're not confusing 
(1) IP-layer encryption (that may.. I hope still.. exist in upcoming OS
implementations) 
with
(2) tunneling software (or a tunneling kernel driver) that implements a
simple tunnel-over-network-interface to abide with existing
interface/routing mechanisms in linux and that just UTILIZES IPSec (albeit
not to its full extent) as an encryption mechanism?

Is anone familiar with other OS implementations of IPSec or IETF's draft
of what facilities a full implementation should provide? (I think I'm off
to do some RFC reading... :-))


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On Sun, 20 May 2001, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:

 On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 04:35:23PM +0300, Miki Shapiro wrote:
  I seemed to have an idea (or possibly a misconception) that IPSec talked
  about generic enctyption on the IP layer
 
 I thought so too, when I first heard about the term, but now I'm not
 too sure. Guys, correct me if I'm wrong.
 
  more than enough at the moment - Cisco's Gre-over-IP, MS-VPN, Checkpoint's
  VPN, The linux kernel IP Tunnel (some of these are probbably the same, I'm
  not intimately acquainted with them all...) and other FW vendors probbably
  have another proprietary protocol or two up their sleeves. 
 
 Actually, the nice thing about those VPNs and FreeS/WAN is that they all
 use the IPSec protocol and thus can interopperate (so you can tunnel
 from Linux to Win2K, VPN-1 or a Cisco).
 
  Moreover, you can't have two clients on host A and two servers on host B
  where one pair would be talking encrypted and the other not?
 
 It's not a feature of the socket (e.g. setting an ENCRYPTED flag) which
 the application can control, but simply a route for the packet, just
 like ppp0 or eth0.
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 Ilya Konstantinov
 


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Re: Linux mail relay + MS Exchange

2001-05-20 Thread Gavrie Philipson

Evgeny Popov wrote:
 No. I keep a single account in Linux, which recieves all the mail
 for domain, and Popbeamer (
 http://www.dataenter.co.at/products/popbeamer.htm , 129$) or similar Windows
 product can  routes them to my Exchange users using POP3.

Do you mean you use a multi-drop mailbox, which receives the mail for
all recipients?
If so, don't you have problems with mail messages, especially thos from
mailing lists, not being routed correctly?
I tried such a setup once (the fetchmail docs say explicitly that it's
dangerous), and it didn't work satisfactorily under some circumstances
(mainly lists).

Gavrie.

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Re: IPSec on 2.4.2/IPv4

2001-05-20 Thread Eran Levy

Hi,
I recommend you read the IETF's comprehensive list of papers in: 
http://www.ietf.org/ids.by.wg/ipsec.html maybe you will find there your 
answer and read the RFCs and surely you will find the answer.
At 17:33 20/05/01 +0300, you wrote:
Are we *absolutely sure* we're not confusing
(1) IP-layer encryption (that may.. I hope still.. exist in upcoming OS
implementations)
with
(2) tunneling software (or a tunneling kernel driver) that implements a
simple tunnel-over-network-interface to abide with existing
interface/routing mechanisms in linux and that just UTILIZES IPSec (albeit
not to its full extent) as an encryption mechanism?

Is anone familiar with other OS implementations of IPSec or IETF's draft
of what facilities a full implementation should provide? (I think I'm off
to do some RFC reading... :-))


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 -

If at first you don't succeed...
.. Skydiving is probbably not for you.

On Sun, 20 May 2001, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:

  On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 04:35:23PM +0300, Miki Shapiro wrote:
   I seemed to have an idea (or possibly a misconception) that IPSec talked
   about generic enctyption on the IP layer
 
  I thought so too, when I first heard about the term, but now I'm not
  too sure. Guys, correct me if I'm wrong.
 
   more than enough at the moment - Cisco's Gre-over-IP, MS-VPN, 
 Checkpoint's
   VPN, The linux kernel IP Tunnel (some of these are probbably the 
 same, I'm
   not intimately acquainted with them all...) and other FW vendors 
 probbably
   have another proprietary protocol or two up their sleeves.
 
  Actually, the nice thing about those VPNs and FreeS/WAN is that they all
  use the IPSec protocol and thus can interopperate (so you can tunnel
  from Linux to Win2K, VPN-1 or a Cisco).
 
   Moreover, you can't have two clients on host A and two servers on host B
   where one pair would be talking encrypted and the other not?
 
  It's not a feature of the socket (e.g. setting an ENCRYPTED flag) which
  the application can control, but simply a route for the packet, just
  like ppp0 or eth0.
 
  --
  Best regards,
  Ilya Konstantinov
 


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RAID 0 or LVM?

2001-05-20 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo

Hi,

I just got a nice little 1U server for some testings here at work...

It's a pretty nice machine for it's price (almost $2,000) - 2X866Mhz PIII, 
2X75GB UDMA hard drives (IBM, 7200RPM), 512MB PC-133 SDRAM, cdrom, floppy, 
Promise IDE controller, 2 64-bit PCI slots, and lots of fans...

I was thinking about doing a RAID 0 for the 2 disks (just for some testings), 
and I was wondering - have anyone played with Linux LVM? which is faster? I 
know you can do RAID 0 also with LVM - so is RAID 0 or Linux LVM are faster? 
who takes less resources from the machines..?

Thanks,
Hetz

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Re[2]: IPSec on 2.4.2/IPv4

2001-05-20 Thread Eran Levy

I also recommend read the FAQs of NetBSD and FreeBSD: 
http://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/network/ipsec/
http://www.r4k.net/ipsec/
They are a good FAQs that I recommend to read. I hope this will give you 
the answer.
At 17:33 20/05/01 +0300, you wrote:
Are we *absolutely sure* we're not confusing
(1) IP-layer encryption (that may.. I hope still.. exist in upcoming OS
implementations)
with
(2) tunneling software (or a tunneling kernel driver) that implements a
simple tunnel-over-network-interface to abide with existing
interface/routing mechanisms in linux and that just UTILIZES IPSec (albeit
not to its full extent) as an encryption mechanism?

Is anone familiar with other OS implementations of IPSec or IETF's draft
of what facilities a full implementation should provide? (I think I'm off
to do some RFC reading... :-))


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 -

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.. Skydiving is probbably not for you.

On Sun, 20 May 2001, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:

  On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 04:35:23PM +0300, Miki Shapiro wrote:
   I seemed to have an idea (or possibly a misconception) that IPSec talked
   about generic enctyption on the IP layer
 
  I thought so too, when I first heard about the term, but now I'm not
  too sure. Guys, correct me if I'm wrong.
 
   more than enough at the moment - Cisco's Gre-over-IP, MS-VPN, 
 Checkpoint's
   VPN, The linux kernel IP Tunnel (some of these are probbably the 
 same, I'm
   not intimately acquainted with them all...) and other FW vendors 
 probbably
   have another proprietary protocol or two up their sleeves.
 
  Actually, the nice thing about those VPNs and FreeS/WAN is that they all
  use the IPSec protocol and thus can interopperate (so you can tunnel
  from Linux to Win2K, VPN-1 or a Cisco).
 
   Moreover, you can't have two clients on host A and two servers on host B
   where one pair would be talking encrypted and the other not?
 
  It's not a feature of the socket (e.g. setting an ENCRYPTED flag) which
  the application can control, but simply a route for the packet, just
  like ppp0 or eth0.
 
  --
  Best regards,
  Ilya Konstantinov
 


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Re: Re[2]: IPSec on 2.4.2/IPv4

2001-05-20 Thread Miki Shapiro

Cool :-) Thx!

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On Sun, 20 May 2001, Eran Levy wrote:

 I also recommend read the FAQs of NetBSD and FreeBSD: 
 http://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/network/ipsec/
 http://www.r4k.net/ipsec/
 They are a good FAQs that I recommend to read. I hope this will give you 
 the answer.
 At 17:33 20/05/01 +0300, you wrote:
 Are we *absolutely sure* we're not confusing
 (1) IP-layer encryption (that may.. I hope still.. exist in upcoming OS
 implementations)
 with
 (2) tunneling software (or a tunneling kernel driver) that implements a
 simple tunnel-over-network-interface to abide with existing
 interface/routing mechanisms in linux and that just UTILIZES IPSec (albeit
 not to its full extent) as an encryption mechanism?
 
 Is anone familiar with other OS implementations of IPSec or IETF's draft
 of what facilities a full implementation should provide? (I think I'm off
 to do some RFC reading... :-))
 
 
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 .. Skydiving is probbably not for you.
 
 On Sun, 20 May 2001, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
 
   On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 04:35:23PM +0300, Miki Shapiro wrote:
I seemed to have an idea (or possibly a misconception) that IPSec talked
about generic enctyption on the IP layer
  
   I thought so too, when I first heard about the term, but now I'm not
   too sure. Guys, correct me if I'm wrong.
  
more than enough at the moment - Cisco's Gre-over-IP, MS-VPN, 
  Checkpoint's
VPN, The linux kernel IP Tunnel (some of these are probbably the 
  same, I'm
not intimately acquainted with them all...) and other FW vendors 
  probbably
have another proprietary protocol or two up their sleeves.
  
   Actually, the nice thing about those VPNs and FreeS/WAN is that they all
   use the IPSec protocol and thus can interopperate (so you can tunnel
   from Linux to Win2K, VPN-1 or a Cisco).
  
Moreover, you can't have two clients on host A and two servers on host B
where one pair would be talking encrypted and the other not?
  
   It's not a feature of the socket (e.g. setting an ENCRYPTED flag) which
   the application can control, but simply a route for the packet, just
   like ppp0 or eth0.
  
   --
   Best regards,
   Ilya Konstantinov
  
 
 
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Re: RAID 0 or LVM?

2001-05-20 Thread Eran Levy

Hi,
Im using RAID 0 in a UDMA disk with 4.5GB 7200RPM and we tested reading and 
writing 1GB file so here is the results (This test giving a results of 1 disk):
For 512 byte blocks we get:
Write (bytes/s): 5,520,807 Read: 9,625,655 CPU Load in %s: 26.1
and for 8192 byte (8kB) blocks we get:
Write (bytes/s): 5,987,853 Read: 9,472,799 CPU Load in %s: 19.2

I heard about LVM but I never tried using it. You can read about it in: 
http://www.sistina.com/lvm/

At 17:55 20/05/01 +0300, you wrote:
Hi,

I just got a nice little 1U server for some testings here at work...

It's a pretty nice machine for it's price (almost $2,000) - 2X866Mhz PIII,
2X75GB UDMA hard drives (IBM, 7200RPM), 512MB PC-133 SDRAM, cdrom, floppy,
Promise IDE controller, 2 64-bit PCI slots, and lots of fans...

I was thinking about doing a RAID 0 for the 2 disks (just for some testings),
and I was wondering - have anyone played with Linux LVM? which is faster? I
know you can do RAID 0 also with LVM - so is RAID 0 or Linux LVM are faster?
who takes less resources from the machines..?

Thanks,
Hetz

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Re: Q: Using GNU Autoconf/Automake with proprietary software projects

2001-05-20 Thread Ely Levy

As written in the autoconf automake manuals they doesnt' require any
special licence to be used they only encourage you to use GPL
in general GPL programs doesn't automaticly GPL the files they make


Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University 
Jerusalem Israel



On Sun, 20 May 2001, Shlomi Fish wrote:

 
 As you may well know, GNU Autoconf and Automake are distributed under the
 GPL, which means that all the autoconf m4 macros and Bournme shell source
 code is also GPLed. At least from what I could see by examining the files.
 
 So, the question is whether it is legally possible to use autoconf for
 properiatary software, provided one does not one to expose his build tree.
 I have seen autoconf used by a properiatary product (MySQL before it
 was GPLed), but in that case it was a sourceware product, which was
 distributed with its source. I don't know what was the license of the
 source files that could see the autoconf code, but since the source code
 was available, it did not matter much to make them under a very
 open-source license.
 
 Naturally, autoconf can compile proprietary code because make and the
 shell only invoke the compiler on the source code and do not link against
 it. However, if I write a configure.in script - must it be distributed
 under a GPL compatible license?
 
 I noticed that some of the files that were generated in one of my own
 projects (whose license is compatible with the GPL) carried a this is
 free software header. They did not say that they were distributed under
 the GNU General Public License, but they did not say otherwise either.
 
 So, can anybody knowledgable in the intricates of the GPL and autoconf,
 enlighten me?
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: Hebrew on IGLU

2001-05-20 Thread solomon

On 20-May-2001 Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 On Sat, 19 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I have what is probably a **silly** problem, but here it is. Although I have
 Hebrew fonts and can see Hebrew in both directions using Konqueror on sites
 like Walla, Ynet, Maariv, and many others, **DAVKA** on IGLU, I can't see
 Hebrew (not that there is very much).

 I'm attaching a snapshot - the quality is very poor, but I wanted to save
 bandwith so I compressed as much as I could (10% JPG).
 
 What about:
 
 http://www.iglu.org.il:8080/Control_Panel/Products/Squishdot/IGLU/969137260/96
 9287917/969374453/index_html
 
 Does it display well?

Yes - perfectly. 
As I said before, I only have this problem on the IGLU home page (not other
pages).

 
 What font do you use for iso-8859-8 in konquror?
 

standard = ariel   -  fixed = courier  ---  I've tried different fonts but
it still doesn't work

But here's something strange (and I don't know if there's a connection). When I
go into the settings -- configure Konqueror -- Konqueror browser --
appearance menu, the charset is always back to iso8859-1 even after setting it
to iso8859-8. 

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 http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir

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bind 9.1

2001-05-20 Thread mike ray
Title: Message



Hi

I installed RH 7.1 
with bind 9.1 which came with the cd, everything worked fine for 2 weeks, today 
I saw that I do not have any dens resolution at all.

at the named.conf 
file I saw thatit did not even load the zone file, the record has 
disappeared !!

any one with a 
suggestion or experience with bind 9.1


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Re: Mandrake 2.4.4 kernel

2001-05-20 Thread Alex Shnitman


  1. Much faster, thanks to a major optimization of the way fork-exec is
 implemented.
 
 IIRC, that feature's effects on the scheduler were not considered properly, 
 and you could get all kinds of undesired scheduling behavior under 2.4.3, 
 such as unresponsive processes and the like, and Linus reverted it in 2.4.4.

Actually 2.4.4 introduced this change, and it's been reverted in
2.4.5-pre1.

I really don't understand how come it created problems though. Can
anyone explain it? Why would user-level processes care about
scheduling intricacies in the kernel? How is fork implemented in other
Unix variants -- is it done the slow way in all of them?

  2. Networking is much faster too, thanks to the zero-copy-networking.

As far as I understand, in order to benefit from zero-copy networking,
your NIC driver needs to support it, and only a couple of drivers
support it as of this moment.


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Re: Mandrake 2.4.4 kernel

2001-05-20 Thread Ely Levy

I think the changes would be seen mostly in fast cards ir giga ones

Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University 
Jerusalem Israel



On Sun, 20 May 2001, Alex Shnitman wrote:

 
   1. Much faster, thanks to a major optimization of the way fork-exec is
implemented.
 
  IIRC, that feature's effects on the scheduler were not considered properly,
  and you could get all kinds of undesired scheduling behavior under 2.4.3,
  such as unresponsive processes and the like, and Linus reverted it in 2.4.4.
 
 Actually 2.4.4 introduced this change, and it's been reverted in
 2.4.5-pre1.
 
 I really don't understand how come it created problems though. Can
 anyone explain it? Why would user-level processes care about
 scheduling intricacies in the kernel? How is fork implemented in other
 Unix variants -- is it done the slow way in all of them?
 
   2. Networking is much faster too, thanks to the zero-copy-networking.
 
 As far as I understand, in order to benefit from zero-copy networking,
 your NIC driver needs to support it, and only a couple of drivers
 support it as of this moment.
 
 
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Re: IPSec on 2.4.2/IPv4

2001-05-20 Thread Alex Shnitman

Hi, Ilya!

On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 02:15:07PM +0300, you wrote the following:

 As far as I see, there's no way to change the destination route based
 on the port (that is, according to man netfilter, there's no such
 option).

Actually it's quite easy to do if you combine netfilter and the policy
routing features of Linux. I don't know if the example below will
solve the specific ipsec problem you guys are talking about, but it
shows how to do routing decisions based on the destination port.
(Note: I can't test it here so standard disclaimer applies.)

# Create a new routing table and add a default route there to ipsec0
ip route add default dev ipsec0 table 3
#   (You actually may need to specify via)

# Mark all packets destined to port 80 with 1
iptables -t mangle -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j MARK --set-mark 1

# Send packets marked with 1 to be routed by the rules of table 3
ip rule add fwmark 1 table 3


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Re: Mandrake 2.4.4 kernel

2001-05-20 Thread Adi Stav

On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 08:15:21PM +0300, Alex Shnitman wrote:
 
   1. Much faster, thanks to a major optimization of the way fork-exec is
  implemented.
  
  IIRC, that feature's effects on the scheduler were not considered properly, 
  and you could get all kinds of undesired scheduling behavior under 2.4.3, 
  such as unresponsive processes and the like, and Linus reverted it in 2.4.4.
 
 Actually 2.4.4 introduced this change, and it's been reverted in
 2.4.5-pre1.

I stand corrected.

 I really don't understand how come it created problems though. Can
 anyone explain it? Why would user-level processes care about
 scheduling intricacies in the kernel? How is fork implemented in other
 Unix variants -- is it done the slow way in all of them?

The change was for the parent to give its child all of what remained of its
timeslice immediately after creating it. This way, when the scheduler gets 
called as the syscall exits, it figures out that the child ought to run 
before the parent gets the fork() return value. 

The problem is that although no userspace should make assumptions 
about scheduling, the scheduler itself is really a delicate system and has to
make lots of its own assumptions about userspace behaviour and about its own. 
If you have a lot of forks running, you've got a lot of worth of timeslices 
being handed around and concentrated in the hands of children, and that is a 
skew wasn't considered in the scheduler's original design.

IIRC neither FreeBSD nor OpenBSD do these child gifts. It's not necessarily
the slow way, it just has advanteges in fork/exec situations. Anyhow, from
the reactions to the idea I guess it may be pretty novel in Unix in general -- 
otherwise someone would HAVE to mention that FooOS already does this with 
considerable performance advanteges, and Linus would respond that FooOS is a
piece of crap he wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole, and someone else would
point out that the Foo approach is much more scalable, which is why it's
preferred to Linux in all the serious companies HE knows, and we'd end up 
with the usual flamewar, not unlike the ones kuro5hin.org gets every time 
someone mentions that some story was already posted on Slashdot six weeks ago.

In any case, KT says one proposed solution was to give the child only two
thirds of the parnet's remaining timeslice, or something. I wonder why they
don't simply force a context switch to the child just after it's created 
instead of messing around with priorities... Any kernel hackers who care to 
comment?

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Re: bind 9.1

2001-05-20 Thread R.C.S

Hi,

What do you mean the record has disappeared ?
What are the relevant logs entries tell you ? (tell us)
If you don't have requested that, you might not be able to see 
any logging, or only minor ones.
put in your named.conf something like:
logging {
channel syslog_debug { syslog mail; severity debug 2;
print-category yes; };
channel syslog_client { syslog mail; severity debug 2;
print-category yes; print-severity yes; };
channel syslog_security { syslog mail; severity debug 2;
print-category yes; print-severity yes; };
channel syslog_notify { syslog mail; severity debug ;
print-category yes; };
channel syslog_xfar { syslog mail; severity debug 7;
print-category yes; };
channel syslog_general { syslog mail; severity debug 0;
print-category yes; print-severity yes; };
category default { syslog_debug; };
category general { syslog_general; };
category security { syslog_security; };
category config { syslog_notify; };
category xfer-in { syslog_notify; };
category xfer-out { syslog_xfar; };
category notify { syslog_notify; };
category client { syslog_client; };
category update { syslog_notify; };
category lame-servers { null; };
category resolver { null; };
category dispatch { null; };
};



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 I installed RH 7.1 with bind 9.1 which came with the cd, everything worked
 fine for 2 weeks, today I saw that I do not have any dens resolution at all.
  
 at the named.conf file I saw that it did not even load the zone file, the
 record has disappeared !!
  
 any one with a suggestion or experience with bind 9.1
  
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Re: IPSec on 2.4.2/IPv4

2001-05-20 Thread Miki Shapiro

Well, not a perfect solution, but definitely one that should work - with
ipsec performing as Tzafrir described, and using the the mangling table as
Alex has Looks like I'm gonna kill my uptime to try and do this. Wish
me luck :-)


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On Sun, 20 May 2001, Alex Shnitman wrote:

 Hi, Ilya!
 
 On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 02:15:07PM +0300, you wrote the following:
 
  As far as I see, there's no way to change the destination route based
  on the port (that is, according to man netfilter, there's no such
  option).
 
 Actually it's quite easy to do if you combine netfilter and the policy
 routing features of Linux. I don't know if the example below will
 solve the specific ipsec problem you guys are talking about, but it
 shows how to do routing decisions based on the destination port.
 (Note: I can't test it here so standard disclaimer applies.)
 
 # Create a new routing table and add a default route there to ipsec0
 ip route add default dev ipsec0 table 3
 #   (You actually may need to specify via)
 
 # Mark all packets destined to port 80 with 1
 iptables -t mangle -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j MARK --set-mark 1
 
 # Send packets marked with 1 to be routed by the rules of table 3
 ip rule add fwmark 1 table 3
 
 
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2001-05-20 Thread mike ray

this is a mail test, i will appreciate it if you all reply back
 
had some dns problems
 
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Looking for a Debian Maintainer for Freecell Solver

2001-05-20 Thread Shlomi Fish


I am the main programmer of Freecell Solver, which is a library and an
executable for automatic solving of boards of Freecell and similar
Solitaire variants. Freecell Solver is already used by KDE's Solitaire
suite - kpat - and it is expected that it will be used by PySol and by
GNOME's AisleRiot as well. Thus, I decided to make it into a package that
will be used by all of those Freecell implementations.

Freecell Solver now has an Autoconf/Automake/libtool-based building
process that generates a shared library, a static library, and an
executable that links against the shared library. I have already written
an RPM SPEC for it (partially in thanks to Tzafrir Cohen's lecture), and
installing it by rpm seems to work fine.

However, I would also like to have a Debian package it. Now, since I don't
use Debian regularily nor its package system, I would like to have someone
who does, so he can maintain it for me. Thus, if anyone of you wishes to
be one, or can forward this message to a global Debian mailing-list, I
would be grateful to you.

What the maintainer should have (in that order):

1. Familiarity with how to make a Debian package or a willingless to learn
it.

2. Familiarity with RPM SPECS. I maintain the RedHat package, and he could
build the Debian based on its SPEC.

3. Familiarity with Freecell and similar games, and with Freecell Solver
in particular. (I believe he will need to test it to make sure everything
is fine).


If anyone is willing to take the job, he should contact me at
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References:

http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/freecell-solver/ 
- The Freecell Solver Homepage

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fc-solve-discuss/
- The Freecell Solver mailing-list

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fc-solve-discuss/message/72
- A message sent to it discussing this issue.

Best regards,

Shlomi Fish




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