Re: Reverse ftp over ssh does send files
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Micha Feigin wrote: I try to connect to a remote computer using ssh and then tunnel the ftp connection back to by computer using ssh -R 1234:local machine:21 ... I manage to open an ftp connection back to my computer and log in, but I can't seem to be able to do anything with it: Use scp to copy files over a SSH connection, not tunneling FTP. Alon -- This message was sent by Alon Altman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ICQ:1366540 GPG public key at http://alon.wox.org/pubkey.txt Key fingerprint = A670 6C81 19D3 3773 3627 DE14 B44A 50A3 FE06 7F24 -- -=[ Random Fortune ]=- QOTD: Do you smell something burning or is it me? -- Joan of Arc = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew Input For Remote Display
Aharon Schkolnik wrote: Under RH8 I had Hebrew working just fine on my machine. I was using KDE's keyboard layout. I just upgraded to RH9 (with KDE 3.1.2), and now it doesn't work. I discovered from http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kde-il/message/206 that the keyboard configuration under RH9 seems completely broken. So, I tried using the suggested Xkb workaround - /usr/X11R6/bin/setxkbmap -compat group_led -symbols \ us(pc101)+il+group(alt_shift_toggle)+group(switch) That worked fine (I can switch back and forth between Hebrew and English), except for the thing I need it for most: I need to run an application on a remote (VMS) machine, displaying on my machine, which needs Hebrew input. I am unable to get Hebrew input in the window from the remote machine. To be completely clear: If I telnet to the remote machine, and then create another window displayed on my machine, and then switch to Hebrew, I get Hebrew in the telnet session, but no Hebrew in the remotely displayed window. This was working fine under RH8, and in fact if I use KDE's broken keyboard utility under RH9 I do get Hebrew in the remotely displayed window (just can't get back to English, since it's broken). Is there some setxkbmap option I need to know about ? Is there some logical explanation for what is going on ? Can anyone help me ? TIA. It sounds like your remote VMS utility is having problem with XKB's backwards compatibility. There is a fundemental difference between KDE's keyboard switch utility and the configuration you did. The configuration you did (which is the recommended way to go) loads two layouts one besides the other, and switches between them. This is the case for pre 4.3.0 XFree too (the only diffrerence is that there, you had to couple the English and Hebrew keyboards, and had no other choice). The option to do this is defined by an X extension called XKB, which dates back to 1996 (IIRC). The KDE utility actually changes keymaps each and every time you change language. This requires no X extension at all. XKB is supposed to provide backwards compatibility to utilities that are not XKB aware, which is supposed to make them think that what is happening is what the KDE keyboard switch utility is doing. It sounds as if this does not work properly in your case. I think the only useful piece of information this email does not hold is what you can do about it :-) -- Shachar Shemesh Open Source integration consultant Home page resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [August Penguin] Updates and a poster
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 10:06:38AM +0200, Dan Armak wrote: On Saturday 12 July 2003 23:54, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Howdie, Some updates on August Penguin on the web site: http://www.hamakor.org.il/august.html WRT the keysigning: is some kind of preparation/registration needed? Yes, and I'm sorry for not having published it earlier. In order to participate, all you need to do is email me a) your key (public, not private ...) b) your key id c) your key fingerprint And show up to the key signing party. One question: what keyserver should I use to upload the key to? Is: http://www.keyserver.net/en/ good? Regards, Shlomi Fish Full instructions (in hebrew, translated by the lovely ladypine!) will go up in an hour or so on Hamakor's website. We'll post here when they do. I'm asking because here at linuxtag I've discovered I couldn't attend the big keysigning party. Turns out that registration was required and it closed a week before the expo (!). So I'd not want to miss it again :-) If it makes you feel better, registration for the OLS key signing party closed up almost a month before the event. I still got in on time, though :-) Cheers, Muli. -- Muli Ben-Yehuda http://www.mulix.org http://www.livejournal.com/~mulix/ -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ There's no point in keeping an idea to yourself since there's a 10 to 1 chance that somebody already has it and will share it before you. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reverse ftp over ssh does send files
Alon Altman wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Micha Feigin wrote: I try to connect to a remote computer using ssh and then tunnel the ftp connection back to by computer using ssh -R 1234:local machine:21 ... I manage to open an ftp connection back to my computer and log in, but I can't seem to be able to do anything with it: Use scp to copy files over a SSH connection, not tunneling FTP. Alon If you want an interface consistant with FTP, use SFTP. Read Alon's reply to see why this is necessary. Alon does have one bit of information wrong, however. Even if you could set the port number in advance, it would still not work. In order for it to work you would also need to change the actual data passed inside the control connection. About six years ago, I was able to encrypt the control connection, while passing the data in the clear. I suspect, in retrospect, that the only reason I could do that was that the FTP servers of those days did not try to protect themselves against bounce attacks. It should be pretty much impossible with modern FTP servers. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Open Source integration consultant Home page resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
postfix on Mandrake 9.0
I am trying to cnfigure postfix on an mdk 9.0 box. nothing fancy just a basic setup. Needing to add an alias I edited /etc/postfix/aliases and made a trivial update. next I issue the newaliases.postfix command to rebuild the db but the program does not seam to return?! It simply sits there and seams to be stuck on something and I don't get the next promt. Where do I start debugging this? I tried top and did not even see the process on the list (How much that is relevant I know not..) Thanks, Ron = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew Input For Remote Display
Shachar == Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shachar Aharon Schkolnik wrote: Under RH8 I had Hebrew working just fine on my machine. I was using KDE's keyboard layout. I just upgraded to RH9 (with KDE 3.1.2), and now it doesn't work. I discovered from http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kde-il/message/206 that the keyboard configuration under RH9 seems completely broken. So, I tried using the suggested Xkb workaround - /usr/X11R6/bin/setxkbmap -compat group_led -symbols \ us(pc101)+il+group(alt_shift_toggle)+group(switch) That worked fine (I can switch back and forth between Hebrew and English), except for the thing I need it for most: I need to run an application on a remote (VMS) machine, displaying on my machine, which needs Hebrew input. I am unable to get Hebrew input in the window from the remote machine. To be completely clear: If I telnet to the remote machine, and then create another window displayed on my machine, and then switch to Hebrew, I get Hebrew in the telnet session, but no Hebrew in the remotely displayed window. This was working fine under RH8, and in fact if I use KDE's broken keyboard utility under RH9 I do get Hebrew in the remotely displayed window (just can't get back to English, since it's broken). Is there some setxkbmap option I need to know about ? Is there some logical explanation for what is going on ? Can anyone help me ? TIA. Shachar It sounds like your remote VMS utility is having problem Shachar with XKB's backwards compatibility. There is a Shachar fundemental difference between KDE's keyboard switch Shachar utility and the configuration you did. The configuration Shachar you did (which is the recommended way to go) loads two Shachar layouts one besides the other, and switches between Shachar them. This is the case for pre 4.3.0 XFree too (the only Shachar diffrerence is that there, you had to couple the English Shachar and Hebrew keyboards, and had no other choice). The Shachar option to do this is defined by an X extension called Shachar XKB, which dates back to 1996 (IIRC). Shachar The KDE utility actually changes keymaps each and every Shachar time you change language. This requires no X extension at Shachar all. XKB is supposed to provide backwards compatibility Shachar to utilities that are not XKB aware, which is supposed to Shachar make them think that what is happening is what the KDE Shachar keyboard switch utility is doing. It sounds as if this Shachar does not work properly in your case. Thanks for all the information ! Shachar I think the only useful piece of information this email Shachar does not hold is what you can do about it :-) Could it be that I have to tell XKB to use the backward compatibility mode ? Could I use setxkbmap or something else to change keymaps back and forth, like the KDE utility does ? -- The day is short, and the work is great, | Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | Israel Health Ministry is great, and the Master of the house is | [EMAIL PROTECTED] impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2 | +972 2 670 6954/5 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postfix on Mandrake 9.0
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 10:09:14AM +, Ron Gidron wrote: I am trying to cnfigure postfix on an mdk 9.0 box. nothing fancy just a basic setup. Needing to add an alias I edited /etc/postfix/aliases and made a trivial update. next I issue the newaliases.postfix command to rebuild the db but the program does not seam to return?! If you don't like the name, 'update-alternatives' may give you the name 'newaliases' It simply sits there and seams to be stuck on something and I don't get the next promt. Where do I start debugging this? strace -p PID Also check the mail logs: under /var/log/mail/ . Especially the error log. I tried top and did not even see the process on the list (How much that is relevant I know not..) ps fax (or pstree), to see what are the children of your shell. newaliases is actually performed by 'postalias' in postfix. -- Tzafrir Cohen +---+ http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir/ |vim is a mutt's best friend| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +---+ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reverse ftp over ssh does send files
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 09:07:18AM +0300, guy keren wrote: On 17 Jul 2003, Micha Feigin wrote: I try to connect to a remote computer using ssh and then tunnel the ftp connection back to by computer using ssh -R 1234:local machine:21 ... why do you expect to be able to tunnet 'ftp' like that? ftp sends only commands via port 21. data is sent via a seperate connection (data is both the output of 'ls', and files you transfer with 'get' or 'put'). it looks like you _might_ be able to do what you wanted, _if_ your could force the 'data' port to always be the same port on the remote machine, and then tunnel that port too via ssh. if this is possible, perhaps someone on the list can show us how to do that. However IIRC there is no inherent limitation in the ssh protocol for starting tunnels on the fly. I vaugly recall that mindterm had a feature of on-the-fly creation of ssh tunnels for ftp connections. Though in their page I only see an ftp proxy mentioned: http://www.mindbright.se/mindterm/techspec.php -- Tzafrir Cohen +---+ http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir/ |vim is a mutt's best friend| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +---+ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [August Penguin] Updates and a poster
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 10:05:47AM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: One question: what keyserver should I use to upload the key to? Is: http://www.keyserver.net/en/ good? I usually use pgp.mit.edu, but the above seems fine as well. -- Muli Ben-Yehuda http://www.mulix.org http://www.livejournal.com/~mulix/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [August Penguin] Updates and a poster
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote about Re: [August Penguin] Updates and a poster: One question: what keyserver should I use to upload the key to? Is: http://www.keyserver.net/en/ good? Originally, all the PGP key servers cooperated, so that sending a key to one of them propegated it to all others. Going to wwwkeys.pgp.net will get you one of a bunch of such key servers. The gpg manual even suggests that you can run host -l pgp.net | grep wwwkeys to get the list of all these servers (if you want to manual choose one that you are closest too, for example). I can't find any evidence that the server you told us about actually shares keys with the other servers; in particular I can't find my keys in there. So you might prefer to use wwwkeys.pgp.net instead. In my .gnupg/options I have the following: keyserver wwwkeys.pgp.net keyserver-options honor-http-proxy -- Nadav Har'El|Thursday, Jul 17 2003, 17 Tammuz 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |The path of least resistance is what http://nadav.harel.org.il |makes rivers and politicians crooked. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew Input For Remote Display
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 08:01:14AM +0300, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: Under RH8 I had Hebrew working just fine on my machine. I was using KDE's keyboard layout. I just upgraded to RH9 (with KDE 3.1.2), and now it doesn't work. I discovered from http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kde-il/message/206 that the keyboard configuration under RH9 seems completely broken. So, I tried using the suggested Xkb workaround - /usr/X11R6/bin/setxkbmap -compat group_led -symbols \ us(pc101)+il+group(alt_shift_toggle)+group(switch) What X server do you use? Note: setxkbmap does not compile a keyboard map locally. It sends a keyboard map description to the server and the server will compile a keyboard map. Assuming that te X server is indeed the RH9, the above is broken: setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,grp:switch \ -model pc101 us,il (BW: don't you have a 104-keys keyboard? You should probably use '-model pc104'.) That worked fine (I can switch back and forth between Hebrew and English), except for the thing I need it for most: I need to run an application on a remote (VMS) machine, displaying on my machine, which needs Hebrew input. I am unable to get Hebrew input in the window from the remote machine. To be completely clear: If I telnet to the remote machine, and then create another window displayed on my machine, and then switch to Hebrew, I get Hebrew in the telnet session, but no Hebrew in the remotely displayed window. Are you unable to type or is it displayed incorrectly? This was working fine under RH8, and in fact if I use KDE's broken keyboard utility under RH9 I do get Hebrew in the remotely displayed window (just can't get back to English, since it's broken). Can you type Hebrew in , say, evolution? (1.2, from your distro) or in any gtk 1.2 program? Or in xedit? Maybe this is the ol locale problem Is there some setxkbmap option I need to know about ? Is there some logical explanation for what is going on ? Can anyone help me ? -- Tzafrir Cohen +---+ http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir/ |vim is a mutt's best friend| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +---+ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reverse ftp over ssh does send files
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 09:07:18AM +0300, guy keren wrote: On 17 Jul 2003, Micha Feigin wrote: I try to connect to a remote computer using ssh and then tunnel the ftp connection back to by computer using ssh -R 1234:local machine:21 ... why do you expect to be able to tunnet 'ftp' like that? ftp sends only commands via port 21. data is sent via a seperate connection (data is both the output of 'ls', and files you transfer with 'get' or 'put'). it looks like you _might_ be able to do what you wanted, _if_ your could force the 'data' port to always be the same port on the remote machine, and then tunnel that port too via ssh. if this is possible, perhaps someone on the list can show us how to do that. However IIRC there is no inherent limitation in the ssh protocol for starting tunnels on the fly. I vaugly recall that mindterm had a feature of on-the-fly creation of ssh tunnels for ftp connections. Though in their page I only see an ftp proxy mentioned: http://www.mindbright.se/mindterm/techspec.php There is no such limitation (from the openssh client, just type ENTER, ~, and do -L... or -l). However, like I said in a different post, that won't allow encrypted FTP. In order for that work, you need to translate the port and passive commands inside the control connection to have the new IP. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Open Source integration consultant Home page resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew Input For Remote Display
Tzafrir == Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tzafrir On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 08:01:14AM +0300, Aharon Tzafrir Schkolnik wrote: Under RH8 I had Hebrew working just fine on my machine. I was using KDE's keyboard layout. I just upgraded to RH9 (with KDE 3.1.2), and now it doesn't work. I discovered from http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kde-il/message/206 that the keyboard configuration under RH9 seems completely broken. So, I tried using the suggested Xkb workaround - /usr/X11R6/bin/setxkbmap -compat group_led -symbols \ us(pc101)+il+group(alt_shift_toggle)+group(switch) Tzafrir What X server do you use? Do you mean XFree86-4.3.0-2 on my RH9 box ? Tzafrir Note: setxkbmap does not compile a keyboard map Tzafrir locally. It sends a keyboard map description to the Tzafrir server and the server will compile a keyboard map. Tzafrir Assuming that te X server is indeed the RH9, the above is Tzafrir broken: Tzafrir setxkbmap -option Tzafrir grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,grp:switch \ -model Tzafrir pc101 us,il Yeah, I thinks that's what's not working. Tzafrir (BW: don't you have a 104-keys keyboard? You should Tzafrir probably use '-model pc104'.) Yeah, I changed it (of course, that didn't solve the problem ;-) ) That worked fine (I can switch back and forth between Hebrew and English), except for the thing I need it for most: I need to run an application on a remote (VMS) machine, displaying on my machine, which needs Hebrew input. I am unable to get Hebrew input in the window from the remote machine. To be completely clear: If I telnet to the remote machine, and then create another window displayed on my machine, and then switch to Hebrew, I get Hebrew in the telnet session, but no Hebrew in the remotely displayed window. Tzafrir Are you unable to type or is it displayed incorrectly? I get English instead of Hebrew - seems to be an input issue - not a display issue. This was working fine under RH8, and in fact if I use KDE's broken keyboard utility under RH9 I do get Hebrew in the remotely displayed window (just can't get back to English, since it's broken). Tzafrir Can you type Hebrew in , say, evolution? (1.2, from your Tzafrir distro) Tzafrir or in any gtk 1.2 program? Tzafrir Or in xedit? I can type Hebrew in emacs, konqueror. Tzafrir Maybe this is the ol locale problem Is there some setxkbmap option I need to know about ? Is there some logical explanation for what is going on ? Can anyone help me ? -- The day is short, and the work is great, | Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | Israel Health Ministry is great, and the Master of the house is | [EMAIL PROTECTED] impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2 | +972 2 670 6954/5 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XIO: fatal IO error 0 (Success) on X server
Nathan Fain wrote: I have a SuSE8.1 system installed with the XFree86 4.3.0 packages from SuSE for 8.1 and KDE 3.1 on top of that. 50% of the times that I run an application we wrote I get the following error: XIO: fatal IO error 0 (Success) on X server ebony:0.0 after 14 requests (13 known processed) with 0 events remaining. then that is it and it exits. The other 50% of the time it runs perfectly. NOTE: I compiled the application using gcc3.1. If I compile it on a SuSE7.1 system with the SuSE X 4.2.0 packages and then run it on a SuSE8.1 system it works fine. Also note: this happens on all of the SuSe8.1 system I have (about 20 or so) so it can't be specific to Video card (they all have various cards). Bellow is the last lines of an strace on the application. Note: DRI is setup and working and loads just fine from the looks of the X log. Any clues?? Sounds very interesting. What does this application do? does it use libGl and friends or only does 2D stuff? If you run the X server on the systems in vga mode (no acceleration) does it still behave the same? Gilad. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] Public wifi access
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Internet Explorer needs to be used on public hotspots where
authentication is
web based (haven't seen those in Israel, but it's the common hotspot
authentication mechanism abroad). Many of those
authentication gateways
simply hijack your browser to the authentication page.
Konquerrer and
mozilla seem to be less hijackable than IE, and therefore
you may need IE
for some hotspots.
A. If you're in Ra'anana you can drop by my company for 5 minutes, I'll let you use my
AP for the test.
B. The 'hijacking' thingie is done using port redirection, and it works with EVERY
browser. The web server might not serve Mozilla-compatible pages, but I never
encountered one that did not, and I've been places. My Mozilla works fine.
C. Get an iPASS account, and install their dialer (if it works with WINE). There are
some access points that work only with iPASS, and I didn't see any charge in my iPASS
account for them (Narita airport, Japan is one example). Getting an iPass account is
easy and free (at least in Barak, where I tried).
-- Arik
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Connect to users terminal useing `screen`
Hi List, I'm trying to monitor my user, I'm testing "screen". I can connect to the same user (if I started screen for user foo and then I login in a second session as foo I can connect to the first foo session), but this thing can't work if I "su - foo" ( I get an error "Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check" , prs/0 is my current tty), so I changing the permission to "777" on this device, but I believe that there is more elegant way to do this ( connect to user session as root without "su, chmod 777 /dev/pst/XXX etc...) P.S if there is more efficient/secure way to monitor users and help them, please advise me:-) Thanks, Gili
Good english linux books
Hi there, Is there anyone here who can recommend to me a good Linux begginers book, preferably from the administration/security standpoint. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Open Source integration consultant Home page resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew Input For Remote Display
Shachar == Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shachar Aharon Schkolnik wrote: Under RH8 I had Hebrew working just fine on my machine. I was using KDE's keyboard layout. I just upgraded to RH9 (with KDE 3.1.2), and now it doesn't work. I discovered from http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kde-il/message/206 that the keyboard configuration under RH9 seems completely broken. So, I tried using the suggested Xkb workaround - /usr/X11R6/bin/setxkbmap -compat group_led -symbols \ us(pc101)+il+group(alt_shift_toggle)+group(switch) That worked fine (I can switch back and forth between Hebrew and English), except for the thing I need it for most: I need to run an application on a remote (VMS) machine, displaying on my machine, which needs Hebrew input. I am unable to get Hebrew input in the window from the remote machine. To be completely clear: If I telnet to the remote machine, and then create another window displayed on my machine, and then switch to Hebrew, I get Hebrew in the telnet session, but no Hebrew in the remotely displayed window. This was working fine under RH8, and in fact if I use KDE's broken keyboard utility under RH9 I do get Hebrew in the remotely displayed window (just can't get back to English, since it's broken). Is there some setxkbmap option I need to know about ? Is there some logical explanation for what is going on ? Can anyone help me ? TIA. Shachar It sounds like your remote VMS utility is having problem Shachar with XKB's backwards compatibility. There is a Shachar fundemental difference between KDE's keyboard switch Shachar utility and the configuration you did. The configuration Shachar you did (which is the recommended way to go) loads two Shachar layouts one besides the other, and switches between Shachar them. This is the case for pre 4.3.0 XFree too (the only Shachar diffrerence is that there, you had to couple the English Shachar and Hebrew keyboards, and had no other choice). The Shachar option to do this is defined by an X extension called Shachar XKB, which dates back to 1996 (IIRC). Shachar The KDE utility actually changes keymaps each and every Shachar time you change language. This requires no X extension at Shachar all. XKB is supposed to provide backwards compatibility Shachar to utilities that are not XKB aware, which is supposed to Shachar make them think that what is happening is what the KDE Shachar keyboard switch utility is doing. It sounds as if this Shachar does not work properly in your case. Shachar I think the only useful piece of information this email Shachar does not hold is what you can do about it :-) I wonder what would happen if I made the Hebrew lay the primary layout, and the English the secondary. Is there any way to do that ? If so, is it possible that the VMS application would then pick up the Hebrew layout ? -- The day is short, and the work is great, | Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | Israel Health Ministry is great, and the Master of the house is | [EMAIL PROTECTED] impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2 | +972 2 670 6954/5 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Connect to users terminal useing `screen`
RedBar0n wrote on 2003-07-17: Hi List, I'm trying to monitor my user, I'm testing screen. I can connect to the same user (if I started screen for user foo and then I login in a second session as foo I can connect to the first foo session), but this thing can't work if I su - foo ( I get an error Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check , prs/0 is my current tty), so I changing the permission to 777 on this device, but I believe that there is more elegant way to do this ( connect to user session as root without su, chmod 777 /dev/pst/XXX etc...) P.S if there is more efficient/secure way to monitor users and help them, please advise me :-) Perhaps the `dtach` program can help. It only handles the connection of programs to terminals, without any VT emulation, so you'll need to run from a terminal of the same kind as your user (e.g. both xterms). It does work for multiple simultaneous connections, last time I checked. I don't understand pts permissions but it seems from you description that you try to connect first, then su, try the other way around. -- Beni Cherniavsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I don't hack on it, who will? And if I don't GPL it, what am I? And if it itches, why not now? [With apologies to Hilel ;] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Public wifi access
On Thursday 17 July 2003 12:51, Arik Baratz wrote: A. If you're in Ra'anana you can drop by my company for 5 minutes, I'll let you use my AP for the test. Thanks :-) Next time I come to visit Guy... B. The 'hijacking' thingie is done using port redirection, and it works with EVERY browser. The web server might not serve Mozilla-compatible pages, but I never encountered one that did not, and I've been places. My Mozilla works fine. Can you elaborate on that? (off list, pehaps, as I'm sure there aren't many people who are really interested) I'm just curious about it. Anyway, it didn't work with my mozilla, but there could be hundreds of reasons for that (Narita airport, for example, has a submission form that didn't work for me for anything that wasn't IE). Mozilla isn't my primary browser, so you're probably right to assume it was a configuration problem on my part. There are many other places (Starbucks on the west coast, many European airports) that worked perfectly with konquerrer, so I guess there are different versions. C. Get an iPASS account, and install their dialer (if it works with WINE). There are some access points that work only with iPASS, and I didn't see any charge in my iPASS account for them (Narita airport, Japan is one example). Getting an iPass account is easy and free (at least in Barak, where I tried). Since you mention Narita: no need to use the dialer there, you can easily input the iPass name and password using the web interface. I totally agree about the advantage of iPass: but has here got iPass working under Linux? (I'd really rather not use their dialer under WINE). -- - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCSI error
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:42:37 +0300, Gil Freund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running a DLT1 tape off a BusLogic Flashpoint LT. When I run a backup (Arkeia 5.1), the backup terminates with an End Of Tape message, after about 4GB. in /var/log/messages I see: Jul 16 09:18:41 thief kernel: st1: Error 2707 (sugg. bt 0x20, driver bt 0x7, host bt 0x7). Check the SCSI cable that connects the DLT (try a replacement). It can cause such problems (I know from experience). Ehud. - -- Ehud Karni Tel: +972-3-7966-561 /\ Mivtach - Simon Fax: +972-3-7966-667 \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Insurance agencies (USA) voice mail and X Against HTML Mail http://www.mvs.co.il FAX: 1-815-5509341 / \ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Better Safe Than Sorry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: use http://www.keyserver.net/ to get my key (and others) iD8DBQE/FqxKLFvTvpjqOY0RAlfAAJ96mk4Us1+Q2vH34fz5IThHTUJ+WwCggSv8 gmytck+eenbFwB1F7o4sXlw= =7K+N -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCSI error
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 10:42:37PM +0300, Gil Freund wrote: in /var/log/messages I see: Jul 16 09:18:41 thief kernel: st1: Error 2707 (sugg. bt 0x20, driver bt 0x7, host bt 0x7). Any suggestions? In case no one comes with something better you might google for that message. -- Shaul Karl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] e t = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XIO: fatal IO error 0 (Success) on X server
It does use OpenGL. The application opens multiple image squence windows for comparison. Just find it a bit strange that it 1: works sometime, 2: works perfectly when compiled on a SuSE7.1 system (X4.2, mesa 3.4) and then run on this newer system. btw, I have mesa 4.0.3 if it matters and I've run the demo's and set the permission and mesa has given me it's blessing. Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Nathan Fain wrote: I have a SuSE8.1 system installed with the XFree86 4.3.0 packages from SuSE for 8.1 and KDE 3.1 on top of that. 50% of the times that I run an application we wrote I get the following error: XIO: fatal IO error 0 (Success) on X server ebony:0.0 after 14 requests (13 known processed) with 0 events remaining. then that is it and it exits. The other 50% of the time it runs perfectly. NOTE: I compiled the application using gcc3.1. If I compile it on a SuSE7.1 system with the SuSE X 4.2.0 packages and then run it on a SuSE8.1 system it works fine. Also note: this happens on all of the SuSe8.1 system I have (about 20 or so) so it can't be specific to Video card (they all have various cards). Bellow is the last lines of an strace on the application. Note: DRI is setup and working and loads just fine from the looks of the X log. Any clues?? Sounds very interesting. What does this application do? does it use libGl and friends or only does 2D stuff? If you run the X server on the systems in vga mode (no acceleration) does it still behave the same? Gilad. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XIO: fatal IO error 0 (Success) on X server
Nathan Fain wrote on 2003-07-17: Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Nathan Fain wrote: I have a SuSE8.1 system installed with the XFree86 4.3.0 packages from SuSE for 8.1 and KDE 3.1 on top of that. 50% of the times that I run an application we wrote I get the following error: XIO: fatal IO error 0 (Success) on X server ebony:0.0 after 14 requests (13 known processed) with 0 events remaining. then that is it and it exits. The other 50% of the time it runs perfectly. NOTE: I compiled the application using gcc3.1. If I compile it on a SuSE7.1 system with the SuSE X 4.2.0 packages and then run it on a SuSE8.1 system it works fine. Also note: this happens on all of the SuSe8.1 system I have (about 20 or so) so it can't be specific to Video card (they all have various cards). Bellow is the last lines of an strace on the application. Note: DRI is setup and working and loads just fine from the looks of the X log. Any clues?? Sounds very interesting. What does this application do? does it use libGl and friends or only does 2D stuff? If you run the X server on the systems in vga mode (no acceleration) does it still behave the same? Gilad. It does use OpenGL. The application opens multiple image squence windows for comparison. Just find it a bit strange that it 1: works sometime, 2: works perfectly when compiled on a SuSE7.1 system (X4.2, mesa 3.4) and then run on this newer system. btw, I have mesa 4.0.3 if it matters and I've run the demo's and set the permission and mesa has given me it's blessing. I've just experienced this very error from a fresh wine build. After some googling, I gathered that this is known to be related to incompatibilities of wine with glibc 2.3, which were/are being worked upon; installing wine for rh9 (I have rh9) from SourceForge fixed this. I don't know how is this related to Nathan's error but perhaps it will turn the light for somebody else... -- Beni Cherniavsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I don't hack on it, who will? And if I don't GPL it, what am I? And if it itches, why not now? [With apologies to Hilel ;] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xchat2 translations in iglu
Hi list, Since a few people in this list use xchat, here is a tip: the hebrew translations of xchat 2 is available at iglu, http://iglu.org.il/pub/Hebrew/xchat-he.tar.bz2 and was done by Avi Abeksis nuritavi _at_ 012.net.il and Eli Marko dig__dug _at_ hotmail.co.il. The translation is for the xchat2 version and was tested with Mandrake 9.1 Debian (don't know if stable or unstable sorry) and Slackware 9.0, so I can guess 5that they are ok. We are in the process of submitting the translations to the Translation project. Meantime, you can install them, and report to those two great guys about problems, or misspells. I hope that no misspells are found since I have checked them with hspell ;-). Great tool BTW. -- - diego ___ / Let us condemn to hellfire all those \ | who disagree with us. -- militant| \ religionists everywhere / --- \ ^__^ \ (xx)\___ (__)\ )\/\ U ||w | || || Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] Public wifi access
A. If you're in Ra'anana you can drop by my company for 5 minutes, I'll let you use my AP for the test. Thanks :-) Next time I come to visit Guy... Amazing. It seems like everybody knows him. I hope your card supports WEP, because that's what we use. B. The 'hijacking' thingie is done using port redirection, and it works with EVERY browser. The web server might not serve Mozilla-compatible pages, but I never encountered one that did not, and I've been places. My Mozilla works fine. Can you elaborate on that? (off list, pehaps, as I'm sure there aren't many people who are really interested) I'm just curious about it. Yes, sure. It's the same trick used when using transparent proxy. First you get an IP address from a private range, and DNS server using DHCP. Then there are rules that rewrite the destination address. They do it for all unknown MAC addresses. The new address points to themselves, where there is a web server with the appropriate script. What you actually do is go to your homepage (mine's google for example). They allow DNS traffic, so resolution is no problem. Then the address is rewritten so you actually see the logon screen. The equivalent iptables rule is: iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -s 10.0.0.0/8 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 80 Then after you login, the rule is no longer valid for your MAC address, hence you undergo routing as usual. Anyway, it didn't work with my mozilla, but there could be hundreds of reasons for that (Narita airport, for example, has a submission form that didn't work for me for anything that wasn't IE). Mozilla isn't my primary browser, so you're probably right to assume it was a configuration problem on my part. Like I said I used iPass for Narita. There are many other places (Starbucks on the west coast, many European airports) that worked perfectly with konquerrer, so I guess there are different versions. Perhaps. Since you mention Narita: no need to use the dialer there, you can easily input the iPass name and password using the web interface. I totally agree about the advantage of iPass: but has here got iPass working under Linux? (I'd really rather not use their dialer under WINE). Frankly I used Windows XP and iPass, so I don't know. But while I was there I saved some dumps of the communication between the iPass client and the server, and they seem like regular HTTP. I don't have those logs, but maybe it's worth reverse-engineering. -- Arik ** This email and attachments have been scanned for potential proprietary or sensitive information leakage. PortAuthority(TM) Server Keeping Information Inside Vidius, Inc. www.vidius.com ** To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Public wifi access (fwd)
I am passing on this message for Tal Achituv: The Interdisciplinary Center in herzelia (www.idc.ac.il) has public Wi-Fi Internet for free around the cafeteria, __ Tal Achituv Integration Assistant tel. +972-9-961-1500 ext. 277 fax. +972-9-961-1511 mbl. +972-55-956-369 SCHEMA Optimizing the Wireless World w w w . s c h e m a . c o m = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
using usb modem in linux
I suppose it was already discussed here, but nevertheless: I have an adsl connection via the ALE 130 usb modem, it has no drivers yet for linux for as much as I know, but somewhere I was told that it is possible to recompile the kernel in a way that it would support the mode. Is it true? If yes, how exactly should I do that? Thanx to everyone. Alex. _ Ïîëó÷èòå áåñïëàòíûé ïî÷òîâûé ýëåêòðîííûé àäðåñ [EMAIL PROTECTED] íà ñàéòå a href=http://www.armenia.ru;Àðìåíèÿ Òî÷êà Ðó/a - Ãëàâíûé Àðìÿíñêèé Ïîðòàë â ÐóÍåòå. http://www.armenia.ru _ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get [EMAIL PROTECTED], No Ads, 6MB, IMAP, POP, SMTP more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good english linux books
Running Linux is a good starters - Original Message - From: Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux-IL mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:21 PM Subject: Good english linux books Hi there, Is there anyone here who can recommend to me a good Linux begginers book, preferably from the administration/security standpoint. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Open Source integration consultant Home page resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good english linux books
On Thursday, July 17, 2003 14:21, you wrote: Hi there, Is there anyone here who can recommend to me a good Linux begginers book, preferably from the administration/security standpoint. Shachar Linux Administration for Dummies is a good place to start... Amichai. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reverse ftp over ssh does send files
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 10:08, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Alon Altman wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Micha Feigin wrote: I try to connect to a remote computer using ssh and then tunnel the ftp connection back to by computer using ssh -R 1234:local machine:21 ... I manage to open an ftp connection back to my computer and log in, but I can't seem to be able to do anything with it: Use scp to copy files over a SSH connection, not tunneling FTP. Alon If you want an interface consistant with FTP, use SFTP. Read Alon's reply to see why this is necessary. Alon does have one bit of information wrong, however. Even if you could set the port number in advance, it would still not work. In order for it to work you would also need to change the actual data passed inside the control connection. About six years ago, I was able to encrypt the control connection, while passing the data in the clear. I suspect, in retrospect, that the only reason I could do that was that the FTP servers of those days did not try to protect themselves against bounce attacks. It should be pretty much impossible with modern FTP servers. Shachar I am aware of sftp, only for the specific computer I am trying to connect to, when I try to connect over sftp the connection locks up. I can't connect directly back to my computer since I am conection through the isp NAT and an extra home NAT which resalts with my computer having to reachable address as far as the remote is concered. The remote computer only allows conections over ssh, so I am looking for a way to tunnel some kind of file send protocol (ie ftp, tftp) over ssh in the reverse direction, where I can run any server I want. I need to transfer files in both directions, and I guess I can write a program to do this, but I'd rather not rewrite ftp. can tftp both send and recieve files and will it run over the reveresed ssh connection, or any other ideas on how to achive what I am trying to do? thanx = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
