Re: [OT] Digital Cameras and Linux

2003-09-11 Thread John Rabkin
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 07:35:29PM +0300, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am considering getting a digital camera (for amateur, not
> professional, use), with the obvious requirement that it will interact
> flawlessly with my Linux computers (desktops and laptop).
> 
> I've searched TFW, found some general info etc, not much about
> specific models. Could not try anything, obviously. I would like
> additional input based on knowledge and personal experience.
> 
> * How satisfied are you with your digital camera? Feature set,
>   interface, Linux support, ease of setup (recompiling a current
>   stable RH or vanilla kernel with the right modules is considered
>   acceptable), reliability, etc.
> 
> * What is your impression on Linux supporting software? What works?
>   What works best? Gphoto2? Do any cameras come with Linux software
>   now? Is it simple enough to mount the camera over USB (say) and copy
>   the files? Does it even work that way (I got the impression it
>   does).
> 
> * USB or serial? ;-)
> 
> * What non-obvious questions to ask? What features are
>   essential/useful for Linux interoperability?
> 
> * What to avoid?
>  
> * Any HOWTOs or tips? [I found some,
>   e.g. http://home.gagme.com/greg/linux/usbcamera.php, but the list
>   of models "known to work" is pathetic, even though it's current]
> 
> Info relevant to makes and models available in Israel and/or BG
> Duty-free is especially welcome.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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The cameras that Geoff was talking about are of the SLR or Single
Reflex Lens type. In SLRs the camera body is a completely separate
entity to the lenses. You sound like you are looking for a
point-and-shoot type camera with a single integrated
lens. Point-and-shoots are significantly less expensive than SLRs. It
makes sense for you to by a digital SLR only if you are doing two
things:

1: You already have a significant investment in a shelf or two of
Nikon/Cannon/Minolta etc. SLR lenses (we are talking 20,000 NIS worth
or so) and would like to keep your investment and keep shooting with
them only with a digital body instead of a film one. Indeed
professionals who have been shooting for 20 years and have a hugely
expensive collection of superb lenses would not consider moving to
digital if the big manufacturers were not to produce identical
digital bodies for their existing lenses.

2: You are a person who is going to go into photography seriously and
will in future start purchasing the above mentioned SLR lenses.

You simply need a small, sturdy and reliable digital point-and-shoot
according to your description.

I have a collection of SLR cameras and lenses from Nikon which I use
for serious hobbying (oxymoron?) but I also have a 300 NIS HP
Photosmart C30 1MP digital. I use it to produce quick and dirty Web
sized photos and as a Polaroid of sorts for composition when shooting
with my film cameras. I really cannot recommend it though, it's a very
low quality camera. I've been using it through gtkam without any
issues for some time now.

BTW If you study the digital photography techniques used by the pros
under photoshop you will realize that they are almost all completely
doable in the GIMP. Used correctly, the GIMP is overkill for a
hobbyist photographer.

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Re: Preempt Kernel and Nice

2003-09-11 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 01:21:19AM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote:

>   What are specjbb and volanomark, what gets increased idle time and 
>   what is wrong with that?

specjbb and volanomark are benchmarks. I parse "increased idle time"
as "the scheduler thinks things are idle even when they shouldn't
be". What is wrong with it is left as an excersize to the reader. 
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Re: Emulating third button using the keyboard

2003-09-11 Thread Meir Kriheli
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On Friday 12 September 2003 00:37, dovix wrote:
> Alternative solution:
>
> http://www.compass.com/synaptics/
>
> This makes the touchpad a really useful device.

Remember that if you're using 2.6 kernel you'll need an updated synaptics 
driver. Get it at:

http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/index.html

> For example: you can tap with two fingers for middle click, three fingers
> for right click, and moving a finger up or down on the right edge of
> touchpad scrolls up or down.
>
> For a sample configuration see this:
>
> http://www.nihilanth.net/linux/dellc640-debian.html
>
> On Friday 05 September 2003 16:57, Itay 'z9u2K' Duvdevani wrote:
> > On Friday 05 September 2003 19:19, you wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 05:17:49PM +0300, Itay 'z9u2K' Duvdevani wrote:
> > > > Hey list,
> > > > I'm trying to map one of my keyboard buttons (my Menu button) to the
> > > > third mouse button (button 2).
> > > >
> > > > I did:
> > > > xmodmap -e 'keysym Menu = Pointer_Button2'
> > > >
> > > > but it does not seem to work.
> > > >
> > > > xev gives the correct code, when I press the Menu button I get the
> > > > Pointer_Button2 keysym, but through a KeyPressed event and not a
> > > > ButtonPressed event, which does not do what I intended it to do...
> > > >
> > > > I'm using a laptop keyboard, so using the numpad as my mouse using
> > > > CTRL+SHIFT+NumLock is not a solution for me...
> > > >
> > > > How can I make a keyboard button to generate a ButtonPressed event
> > > > and not a KeyPressed event?
> > >
> > > BTW: are you aware of the standard X keyboard-mouse?
> >
> > yes, I am, see my original post:
> > > > I'm using a laptop keyboard, so using the numpad as my mouse using
> > > > CTRL+SHIFT+NumLock is not a solution for me...
> > >
> > > hold ctrl-(left?)alt-shift and press num-lock. You should hear a beep.
> > >
> > > Now the numeric keypad will operate the mouse:
> > >
> > >   * arrows move, including home, end, pageup and pgdn
> > >   * 5   clicks the "current button"
> > >   * +   doubles-clicks the "current button"
> > >   * 0   holds down the "current button"
> > >   * .   releases the "current button"
> > >
> > > The "current button is by-default the first one. You can change it
> > > using:
> > >
> > >  /   The first
> > >  *   The second
> > >  -   The third ("middle")
> > >
> > > THis is basically set in  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compat/mousekeys
>
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Re: Preempt Kernel and Nice

2003-09-11 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 10:03:12AM +0300, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> 
> BEGIN AKPM QUOTE 
> 
> Nick Piggin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > So it is quite sad that the scheduler in 2.6 is
> >  sitting there doing nothing but waiting to be obsoleted, while Con's
> >  good (and begnin) scheduler patches are waiting around and getting
> >  less than 1% of the testing they need.
> 
> My concern is the (large) performance regression with specjbb and
> volanomark, due to increased idle time.
> 


  What are specjbb and volanomark, what gets increased idle time and 
what is wrong with that?
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Re: Emulating third button using the keyboard

2003-09-11 Thread dovix
Alternative solution:

http://www.compass.com/synaptics/

This makes the touchpad a really useful device. 

For example: you can tap with two fingers for middle click, three fingers for 
right click, and moving a finger up or down on the right edge of touchpad 
scrolls up or down.

For a sample configuration see this:

http://www.nihilanth.net/linux/dellc640-debian.html

On Friday 05 September 2003 16:57, Itay 'z9u2K' Duvdevani wrote:
> On Friday 05 September 2003 19:19, you wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 05:17:49PM +0300, Itay 'z9u2K' Duvdevani wrote:
> > > Hey list,
> > > I'm trying to map one of my keyboard buttons (my Menu button) to the
> > > third mouse button (button 2).
> > >
> > > I did:
> > > xmodmap -e 'keysym Menu = Pointer_Button2'
> > >
> > > but it does not seem to work.
> > >
> > > xev gives the correct code, when I press the Menu button I get the
> > > Pointer_Button2 keysym, but through a KeyPressed event and not a
> > > ButtonPressed event, which does not do what I intended it to do...
> > >
> > > I'm using a laptop keyboard, so using the numpad as my mouse using
> > > CTRL+SHIFT+NumLock is not a solution for me...
> > >
> > > How can I make a keyboard button to generate a ButtonPressed event and
> > > not a KeyPressed event?
> >
> > BTW: are you aware of the standard X keyboard-mouse?
>
> yes, I am, see my original post:
> > > I'm using a laptop keyboard, so using the numpad as my mouse using
> > > CTRL+SHIFT+NumLock is not a solution for me...
> >
> > hold ctrl-(left?)alt-shift and press num-lock. You should hear a beep.
> >
> > Now the numeric keypad will operate the mouse:
> >
> >   * arrows move, including home, end, pageup and pgdn
> >   * 5   clicks the "current button"
> >   * +   doubles-clicks the "current button"
> >   * 0   holds down the "current button"
> >   * .   releases the "current button"
> >
> > The "current button is by-default the first one. You can change it
> > using:
> >
> >  /   The first
> >  *   The second
> >  -   The third ("middle")
> >
> > THis is basically set in  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compat/mousekeys


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Re: [OT] Digital Cameras and Linux

2003-09-11 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:

> What's wrong with dumping files onto a hard disk from time to time?
> You can re-use the memory, can't you?

Sorry, I meant as you were shooting the pictures. It does not make sense
to stop and dump them to a laptop in the middle of a trip, birthday party,
etc. After the whatever, you dump them and clear them for next time.

Also note that they do have a limited number of writes.


> I would very much prefer something a few times cheaper...

Me too, I just thought I would present it to you, Maybe you should have
someone in the states go to a Ritz store and buy a handfull of
"disposables" bring them back here and distribute them to some curious
engineering students. 

I say that because you can only unload them with special equipment the
store has. I assume that in a day or so, there would be a solution for
the problem. :-)

But they are cute litte digital cameras and sell for ten bucks.

> 
> Do you really need a USB reader? Can't you connect the camera to USB
> and mount directly? I got a impression that it was possible.

Some do, some don't 

Geoff.

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Re: [OT] Digital Cameras and Linux

2003-09-11 Thread Boaz Rymland
Might I join this OT frenzy?

I've purchased a digital camera lately too. Below is the little I've 
found regarding "local tutorials" on purchasing such a camera:
http://www.d.co.il/?arena=ConsumerInfo&articleName=%EE%E3%F8%E9%EA%20%EC%F7%F0%E9%E9%FA%20%EE%F6%EC%EE%E4%20%E3%E9%E2%E9%E8%EC%E9%FA&articleURL=%2Fadmintools%2FNewsMan%2Farticles%2F012%2F1871%2F1871.html&headingCode=17092&headingName=%F6%E9%EC%E5%ED&language=HEB&multipage__startIndex=0&page=ConsumerInfo-Article&previousPage=ConsumerInfo-Results
(note the above link also test your linux buffer ruboustness... ;-)
http://www.enet.co.il/cameras/article1.html

IMHO, indeed 2MP is a very good starter. It provides pretty good quality 
if you consider enlargments up to A4 size.
Although as an oldy EOS owner the 300D is damn cool (!).

Boaz.

Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:

On Thursday 11 September 2003 19:35, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:

I'm not much of a photographer, but I own a digital camera and connected 
quite a few of them to Linux. I have yet to find a single camera that 
works as a USB storage device that *doesn't* connect to Linux. I'm sure 
there such variants exist, but I haven't seen one myself yet. They look 
and behave just like one of those USB dis on key thingies. In fact 
someone I know uses his broken digital camera as an removable MP3 
storage device under Linux... :-)

In fact, in one particular instace, the USB connected camera in question 
would work perfectly out of the box in Linux (just plug it in and have 
it automounted) and caused blue screens in a Win2K machine whenevr it 
was plugged in.

Tell tale signs that the camera is indeed a "USB storage device" is any 
indication that it works with Macintoch machines of any kind :-)



Cheers,
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Re: [OT] Digital Cameras and Linux

2003-09-11 Thread Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader
Quoth Geoffrey S. Mendelson:

> GIMP is an excelent photo editor. Photoshop is better because there are
> more features, more commercial plug-ins and better documentation. For
> home use, I doubt the $700 for Photoshop (plus a Windows PC or Mac) is
> worth it.

I agree about Photoshop, but the replacement should not be GIMP, but
Paintshop Pro (jasc.com) - both it and Photoshop are so many miles ahead
of gimp that it is really not fair to compare.

> Also without going into the physics of it here (this is a linux group after
> all), a two million pixel camera is all that you need. The best MTF for
> pictures A4 or smaller with 2MP images.

The price-range for a 2-4MP P&S (point and shoot) camera is 1500NIS to
3000NIS. Select from these. I am fond of Olympus (which is what I
currently have) but many people like the Nikon 775 (and its siblings)
and Canons (G3, G5).

> BTW, If you want to buy an interchangable lens camera the best is the
> Sigma SD-9. It uses a Foveon V3 sensor and it's 3mp pictures are
> better than a CCD or CMOS at 9mp-12mp. At $1600 (US price) it is a 
> $1000 sensor, $300 worth of electronics and $300 worth of camera.
> 
> In plain English, great sensor, few features, ok camera.

The Foveon is controversial, truth be told. I hold that the Canon 10D
(which I am oggling) is the more interesting beast. Alas, at US$1500
MSRP it is quite expensive.

Remember, Oleg, that in SLR (what Geoff calls interchangeable lens, and
no - I do not consider Olympus E10 and E20 normal ;-), you pay AS MUCH
(if not more) for lenses as you pay for camera.

> Canon just anounced a $1200 (US list price) EOS-300D. which has lots of
> features but a CMOS or CCD sensor (I think Canon prefers CMOS to CCD,
> but I'm not sure).

US$1000 with ONE low end general purpose zoom. Check adorama.com.

Oleg - seriously - buy yourself a low end Olympus (C700UZ, for example)
and treat it like a scsi disk in Linux (which is what I do).

Marc

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Re: [OT] Digital Cameras and Linux

2003-09-11 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Thursday 11 September 2003 19:35, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:

I'm not much of a photographer, but I own a digital camera and connected 
quite a few of them to Linux. I have yet to find a single camera that 
works as a USB storage device that *doesn't* connect to Linux. I'm sure 
there such variants exist, but I haven't seen one myself yet. They look 
and behave just like one of those USB dis on key thingies. In fact 
someone I know uses his broken digital camera as an removable MP3 
storage device under Linux... :-)

In fact, in one particular instace, the USB connected camera in question 
would work perfectly out of the box in Linux (just plug it in and have 
it automounted) and caused blue screens in a Win2K machine whenevr it 
was plugged in.

Tell tale signs that the camera is indeed a "USB storage device" is any 
indication that it works with Macintoch machines of any kind :-)



Cheers,
Gilad

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Re: [OT] Digital Cameras and Linux

2003-09-11 Thread guy keren

On 11 Sep 2003, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:

> "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I found that the best way to use a digital camera is to treat the memory
> > cards as film. You buy several of them acording to your needs and replace
> > one when it gets full.
>
> What's wrong withdumping files onto a hard disk from time to time?
> You can re-use the memory, can't you?

i think geoff is talking about a completely different scale of
cameras/prices, so most of his advice is probably not relevant for you.

> > Canon just anounced a $1200 (US list price) EOS-300D. which has lots of
> > features but a CMOS or CCD sensor (I think Canon prefers CMOS to CCD,
> > but I'm not sure).
>
> I would very much prefer something a few times cheaper...

how much cheaper? there are cameras for any price-range you'll define.
the one i bought, i did via wallashop's "group sale" for an HP 850 (which
has an optical zoom of X8, which seems to be missing from most cheap
cameras), and it cost 1900 NIS including shipping, about a month ago. this
includes a (very small) 16MB SD memory card. i had to buy rechargable
batteries for it, and will hopefully buy a larger card, too (for few
hundeads NIS).

this camera supports both usb-storage (which works simply under linux -
just mount it) and some photo exchange protocol that _appears_ to be
something standard, thought i didn't try using it.

when you buy a camera, do note:

1. how large is the _optical_ zoom (a digital zoom, as far as i
   understood, is generaly quite pointless).
2. what kind of lens it has (if you know anything about lens types - i
   don't ;)  ).
3. how much control you have over taking pictures (things like shutter
   speed, and the rest of the buzz-words photographers use)
4. how much control you have about the number of pixels it uses (e.g. in
   the HP 850, you can either do 4M pixels, or 1M pixels - not a number in
   between, which is quite annoying).

and indeed stick to USB, and forget about serial - i think it'll also
mean a faster transfer of pictures from the camera to the computer. not to
mention the fact that a USB camera can be easily used as a 'floppy'
(making the use of a seperate disk-on-key redundant).

well, that's about all i know about digital cameras ;)

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Re: [OT] Digital Cameras and Linux

2003-09-11 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I found that the best way to use a digital camera is to treat the memory
> cards as film. You buy several of them acording to your needs and replace
> one when it gets full. 

What's wrong with dumping files onto a hard disk from time to time?
You can re-use the memory, can't you?

> Canon just anounced a $1200 (US list price) EOS-300D. which has lots of
> features but a CMOS or CCD sensor (I think Canon prefers CMOS to CCD,
> but I'm not sure).

I would very much prefer something a few times cheaper...

> Once mounted in a USB reader it looks like a big floppy drive. The pictures
> are stored as files and you can copy them with cp, etc. You can remove them
> with rm. 

Do you really need a USB reader? Can't you connect the camera to USB
and mount directly? I got a impression that it was possible.

Thanks, Geoff.

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Re: [OT] Digital Cameras and Linux

2003-09-11 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Hi,

Just my two cents:  forget about serial and stick to USB.  Many 
cameras I have heard people use with linux look just like a USB 
storage to the OS.  So what you need is to load usb-storage 
module and mount.

be



On 11 Sep 2003, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am considering getting a digital camera (for amateur, not
> professional, use), with the obvious requirement that it will interact
> flawlessly with my Linux computers (desktops and laptop).
> 
> I've searched TFW, found some general info etc, not much about
> specific models. Could not try anything, obviously. I would like
> additional input based on knowledge and personal experience.
> 
> * How satisfied are you with your digital camera? Feature set,
>   interface, Linux support, ease of setup (recompiling a current
>   stable RH or vanilla kernel with the right modules is considered
>   acceptable), reliability, etc.
> 
> * What is your impression on Linux supporting software? What works?
>   What works best? Gphoto2? Do any cameras come with Linux software
>   now? Is it simple enough to mount the camera over USB (say) and copy
>   the files? Does it even work that way (I got the impression it
>   does).
> 
> * USB or serial? ;-)
> 
> * What non-obvious questions to ask? What features are
>   essential/useful for Linux interoperability?
> 
> * What to avoid?
>  
> * Any HOWTOs or tips? [I found some,
>   e.g. http://home.gagme.com/greg/linux/usbcamera.php, but the list
>   of models "known to work" is pathetic, even though it's current]
> 
> Info relevant to makes and models available in Israel and/or BG
> Duty-free is especially welcome.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 

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Re: [OT] Digital Cameras and Linux

2003-09-11 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Oleg,

> I am considering getting a digital camera (for amateur, not
> professional, use), with the obvious requirement that it will interact
> flawlessly with my Linux computers (desktops and laptop).

I found that the best way to use a digital camera is to treat the memory
cards as film. You buy several of them acording to your needs and replace
one when it gets full. 

At the end of the day, week, whatever, you take your "film" and pop them
in a card reader. Then you copy them to your hard disk, make backup CD's
of them and delete the ones you don't want to keep. Note that I delete
after backing up just to be sure.

GIMP is an excelent photo editor. Photoshop is better because there are
more features, more commercial plug-ins and better documentation. For
home use, I doubt the $700 for Photoshop (plus a Windows PC or Mac) is
worth it.

If you don't have a printer get an EPSON one. After lots of research, I found
that if you print a picture and view it a normal distance (1 foot for an A4),
the cheapest EPSON (C20) would produce good photographs. 

Experimentation proved me right. :-) 

Also without going into the physics of it here (this is a linux group after
all), a two million pixel camera is all that you need. The best MTF for
pictures A4 or smaller with 2MP images.

BTW, If you want to buy an interchangable lens camera the best is the
Sigma SD-9. It uses a Foveon V3 sensor and it's 3mp pictures are
better than a CCD or CMOS at 9mp-12mp. At $1600 (US price) it is a 
$1000 sensor, $300 worth of electronics and $300 worth of camera.

In plain English, great sensor, few features, ok camera.

Canon just anounced a $1200 (US list price) EOS-300D. which has lots of
features but a CMOS or CCD sensor (I think Canon prefers CMOS to CCD,
but I'm not sure).

You can get a small USB reader for about 150 NIS or less.

Make sure that it either has Linux support listed on the package, or you can
return it. The reader I bought did not and works only under windows. That's
because it requires microcode to be downloaded for it and the microcode
is a copyghighted windows DLL. Someone did a good job of writing a driver
for it, but never got around the DLL issue. :-(

Once mounted in a USB reader it looks like a big floppy drive. The pictures
are stored as files and you can copy them with cp, etc. You can remove them
with rm. 

Another point is to make sure that the file format can be read by an open
program. Most cameras will write files in JPEG, though some use a closed,
undocumented raw format. Nikon's top of the line cameras do both, the lower
ones use JPEG.

I can give you one warning. HP digital cameras do not like immersion in
artificialy flavored oversweetened fruit drink.

Geoff.
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Re: Keeping connection with FTP client

2003-09-11 Thread Ori Idan

> Ori Idan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I connect to a remote server using the command line FTP client.
> > The server is set that after a certain time of inactivity it closes the
> > connection.
> > Is there a way that the FTP client will send a "keep alive" message so
> > that if I live the client opened for few minutes and then issue another
> > command, I will not get thrown away because of timeout?
>
> I think you can send the "idle" command to the server, which will
> adjust the timeout, but only up to the maximal value set by the
> server.
>
> Check "man ftp", "man ftpd", especially the -t and -T options to the
> server.

I have tried it and set the server to the maximum time limit it can, my 
question is how to keep the connection alive indefenitly.

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Extra mouse buttons and keyboard in X

2003-09-11 Thread Oded Arbel

Hi list.

I remember vaguely that this was discussed in the list in the past, but can't 
find anything in the archives - 
When using a mouse with more then 5 buttons, can the extra buttons be mapped 
to do something useful (besides another scroll axis which I don't find all 
that useful) ? 
I was thinking about mapping the buttons to keysyms, so I can get primary 
clipboard copy/paste, or forward/backword in history a-la IE or something.
I tried to look at xmodmap, but as far as I understand it only handles 
reordering the buttons but not actually mapping them to something else.

any hints, please ?

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[OT] Digital Cameras and Linux

2003-09-11 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt

Hi,

I am considering getting a digital camera (for amateur, not
professional, use), with the obvious requirement that it will interact
flawlessly with my Linux computers (desktops and laptop).

I've searched TFW, found some general info etc, not much about
specific models. Could not try anything, obviously. I would like
additional input based on knowledge and personal experience.

* How satisfied are you with your digital camera? Feature set,
  interface, Linux support, ease of setup (recompiling a current
  stable RH or vanilla kernel with the right modules is considered
  acceptable), reliability, etc.

* What is your impression on Linux supporting software? What works?
  What works best? Gphoto2? Do any cameras come with Linux software
  now? Is it simple enough to mount the camera over USB (say) and copy
  the files? Does it even work that way (I got the impression it
  does).

* USB or serial? ;-)

* What non-obvious questions to ask? What features are
  essential/useful for Linux interoperability?

* What to avoid?
 
* Any HOWTOs or tips? [I found some,
  e.g. http://home.gagme.com/greg/linux/usbcamera.php, but the list
  of models "known to work" is pathetic, even though it's current]

Info relevant to makes and models available in Israel and/or BG
Duty-free is especially welcome.

Thanks,

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Flash support stopped working

2003-09-11 Thread Shlomo Solomon
I can't figure out what I did wrong, but I can no longer see Flash in Konq or 
Mozilla 1.3.1. It used to work, and I don't know when it stopped working. 
According to about:plugins, the latest Flash plugin in installed - see below. 

Any ideas?  TIA


Here's partial otput from about:plugins:

Shockwave Flash

File name: libflashplayer.so
Shockwave Flash 6.0 r79

MIME Type  DescriptionSuffixes  Enabled
application/x-shockwave-flash   Shockwave Flash swf Yes
application/futuresplashFutureSplash Player   spl   Yes




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Re: Keeping connection with FTP client

2003-09-11 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Ori Idan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I connect to a remote server using the command line FTP client.
> The server is set that after a certain time of inactivity it closes the 
> connection.
> Is there a way that the FTP client will send a "keep alive" message so that
> if I live the client opened for few minutes and then issue another command, I 
> will not get thrown away because of timeout?

I think you can send the "idle" command to the server, which will
adjust the timeout, but only up to the maximal value set by the
server.

Check "man ftp", "man ftpd", especially the -t and -T options to the
server.

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Keeping connection with FTP client

2003-09-11 Thread Ori Idan
I connect to a remote server using the command line FTP client.
The server is set that after a certain time of inactivity it closes the 
connection.
Is there a way that the FTP client will send a "keep alive" message so that
if I live the client opened for few minutes and then issue another command, I 
will not get thrown away because of timeout?

--
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Perl^W Tcl Meeting today

2003-09-11 Thread Gabor Szabo

Dear Linux user,

I'd like to remind you that the Israeli Perl Mongers are having
their regular monthly meeting today.

Agenda:
 Mikhael Goikhman: perl threads (15-20 minutes)
 Gabor Szabo: Foreign languages: Tcl for Perl programmers (40 minutes)

We meet at 18:00 as usual in the
bomb shelter of Dapey Zahav: http://www.d.co.il/
in Aba Hilel str 23, Ramat Gan


Gabor


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Re: Postfix e-mail filter - looking for information

2003-09-11 Thread Boaz Rymland
I also recommend securitysage guide, although from my experience, their 
body/header checks are rejecting legitimate messages yet denying very 
little true spam. Further more, the files on which this filtering is 
based are being updated at most once in a few days, so I don't see them 
as very useful.

also, you can try:

http://www.bagley.org/~doug/spam/postfix.shtml
http://www.mengwong.com/misc/postfix-uce-guide.txt  (haven't checked this)
http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1593
and... don't forget the original postfix manual UCE section...:
http://www.postfix.org/uce.html
good luck,
boaz.
Yaacov Fenster - System Engineering Troubleshooting and other miracles 
wrote:

Does anyone know where one could find detailed information about 
writing a mail filter for Postfix ?

   Thanks in advance

  Yaacov

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