Re: MySQL License
On Monday, 26 בFebruary 2007 09:42, Ori Idan wrote: Not exactly, I think proprietary == commercial; and GPL != !commercial. Sheesh, now we are into semantics: From http://www.webster.com/dictionary/proprietary something that is used, produced, or marketed under exclusive legal right of the inventor or maker Note the word *exclusive*. proprietary software is commercial... Not always. If you distribute free of charge application without source than you have *exclusive* control. Such application is proprietary even if you do it as a personal hobby with no commercial interest. As such, it is not allowed to be linked against GPL code. ...and GPL can be also commercial. Yes. -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 Linux is free. Clue is not. - Eric S. Raymond = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MySQL License
On Monday, 26 בFebruary 2007 09:35, Alex Dover wrote: OK, I'll put it in bold so you can see it: ...AND DO NOT LICENSE AND DISTRIBUTE THEIR SOURCE CODE UNDER THE GPL... So this applies only to those who *do not* distribute according to GPL. All I said was - MySQL restricts who can use their product under GPL license (unlike most other GPL software). No they are not. You can choose GPL and use its terms *or* proprietary license with its terms. Q: What extra restriction does it impose over GPL ? A: None -- the GPL allows commercial (but non-proprietary) use, distribution, modification under the same terms. Bye, -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Gandhi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MySQL License
No they are not. You can choose GPL and use its terms *or* proprietary license with its terms. Q: What extra restriction does it impose over GPL ? A: None -- the GPL allows commercial (but non-proprietary) use, distribution, modification under the same terms. I never said anything about linking to MySQL libraries. I was talking about distributing MySQL as part of a propriety distribution(for the sake of the argument lets say I'm using the regular ODBC driver to connect to a standard MySQL database). MySQL site states that I CAN NOT choose to use MySQL under GPL in this scenario. Again - NO linking, NO patching, just distributing -Alex.
Re: script problem
Running the script with sh -x should show you the faulty parameters. On 2/16/07, Avraham Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have some 3000 minimaps which I wish to colate into bigger maps using ImageMagic's montage. Trouble is that some of the maps are missing. Until I obtain them, I'll put in their place blank maps -Alex
Re: MySQL License
Quoting Ori Idan, from the post of Mon, 26 Feb: In MySQL if your software is GPL you do not need to pay. (remember you may sell GPL so GPL is also commercial). If your software is PROPRIATRY you should pay to MySQL. Then it's not the GPL. it's the text of the GPL with an exception that violates one of the four basic freedoms, and thus kicks it out of the definition of a free software product, am I right? For instance, a qlient of mine is using for its product a mainly MozillaPL-like license with one item (which does not interact with the MySQL at all) under a completely proprietery license. Are you saying it's illegal to include MySQL in such a product? what if the product downloads and installs a Fedora-core RPM during its own installation? -- The only hope for mankind Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MySQL License
And here we come full circle to my original question :) Then it's not the GPL. it's the text of the GPL with an exception that violates one of the four basic freedoms, and thus kicks it out of the definition of a free software product, am I right? For instance, a qlient of mine is using for its product a mainly MozillaPL-like license with one item (which does not interact with the MySQL at all) under a completely proprietery license. Are you saying it's illegal to include MySQL in such a product? what if the product downloads and installs a Fedora-core RPM during its own installation?
Re: script problem
Quoting Alex Dover, from the post of Mon, 26 Feb: Running the script with sh -x should show you the faulty parameters. and for a really fun output, set -x should never be run without a useful PS4 to acompany it. Try this one for instance: export PS4='(${BASH_SOURCE}:${LINENO}): ${FUNCNAME[0]}\n' taken from the Bash Debugger howto... http://bashdb.sourceforge.net/bashdb.html -- Not to be taken seriously Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MySQL License
ביום שני 26 פברואר 2007, 09:47, נכתב על ידי Oron Peled: Nothing is additional. No GPL software can be proprietary. Period. Oron, We had this conversation a few weeks ago. You can always double license the application you develop, and in fact you can have a proprietary GPL application. Some examples: * MySQL * Qt4,Qt3 * OpenOffice (does StarOffice still exist?) * Asterisk * Zaptel (non GPL kernel code! bad boy!) * Xara (currently even the GPL free version links to a non GPL library) * VirtualBox I even remember about a Java application which was developed by one single man and a company hired him to continue the work of his application for them. They bought a GPL application. There are always workarounds for the GPL license, and you can make it non free on some situations. GPL does not provide you full freedom. Whatever that means. Currently GPL is used by some companies to release code for the linux community and still be able to hide behine the GPL and continue their market domination on the market they gain money from Windows users, and the closed source market. - diego = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ies4linux (was Re: Firefox and Isracard)
On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 00:17 +0200, Julian Daich wrote: El dom, 25-02-2007 a las 11:40 +0200, Gilboa Davara escribió: FYI, IE4sLinux has a beta version that supports IE7. (I've played with it a bit - and it seems to work just fine.) Do you can write nativelly in Hebrew on it without pasting up from other application? Using ie6 under Wine I have to copy and paste from OpenOffice if I have to write in Hebrew. - Gilboa Just set the LANG to he_IL.UTF-8. Apply this patch to that $HOME/bin/ie6 shell script. [1] === --- ie6.old 2007-02-26 11:46:11.0 +0200 +++ ie6 2007-02-26 11:46:21.0 +0200 @@ -1,11 +1,11 @@ #!/usr/bin/env bash # IEs 4 Linux script to run ie6 - http://tatanka.com.br/ies4linux - -cd +cd ~ +ENCODING=he_IL.UTF-8 export WINEPREFIX=/home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6 if [ -f /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun ]; then rm /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun - wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html; + LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html; else - wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@ + LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@ fi === - Gilboa [1] $ cd ~/bin $ patch -p /path/to/patch = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MySQL License
Quoting Diego Iastrubni, from the post of Mon, 26 Feb: We had this conversation a few weeks ago. You can always double license the application you develop, and in fact you can have a proprietary GPL application. Some examples: the examples you gave are not proprietary GPL apps they are free software, and thus non-proprietary, period. where they differ is, the owner of the copyright on the product is also offering a way for you to turn it into a part of your proprietary product by buying a limited license that is not GPL, to the same code. I even remember about a Java application which was developed by one single man and a company hired him to continue the work of his application for them. They bought a GPL application. they bought the time of a developper. seperately, they could also make him an offer and buy the copy rights to the product and re-publish it as non-GPL. that's a separate issue. In such a case, btw, the older copies of the GPL code already released are already out there and they can't do a thing about it. There are always workarounds for the GPL license, and you can make it non free on some situations. not if you are not the original owner of the copyrights. GPL does not provide you full freedom. Whatever that means. care to explain? Currently GPL is used by some companies to release code for the linux community and still be able to hide behine the GPL and continue their market domination on the market they gain money from Windows users, and the closed source market. of course. but unless you are talking about static linking with something non-free, they can't stop you from the taking their free Linux source and porting it to other platforms yourself and redistribute it. you can even sell support for that product for those other platforms and not give them back a dime, the GPL allows it. -- A special effect Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
g++ compilation problem
Hi all, I have a compilation problem: when compiling opal-2.2.5 , g++ reports: 'g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus)'. g++ is 'g++ (GCC) 3.3.6 (Debian 1:3.3.6-8)'. I would like to solve this without updating g++. Thanks, Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] computer recycling
Sorry about the off-topic post, but I couldn't find this information anywhere . . . Is there anywhere in Israel where one can recycle old computers. I have several non-working and very old computers, monitors and printers that I would like to recycle rather than throw in the trash for environmental reasons. Thanks, Jason -- Jason Friedman Ph.D. Student Department of Computer Science and Applied Mathematics Weizmann Institute of Science, Rehovot, Israel. Home page: http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~jason
Re: [OT] computer recycling
Hi, I´m preparing a computer class for children in Linux at Givataim with some friends. It is intended to be a community center supported by artists and creative people( they are still docked at pirated Windows at their personal PCs, but I´m working on that). I already mounted three computers from scratch and they run Xubuntu/ Edubuntu and maybe Fluxbuntu or SDL for old PIs/ MMX. We need monitors, PC- 100 and 133 memories and any other working junk. I will be more than happy in receiving your stuff. Julian El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 14:14 +0200, Jason Friedman escribió: Sorry about the off-topic post, but I couldn't find this information anywhere . . . Is there anywhere in Israel where one can recycle old computers. I have several non-working and very old computers, monitors and printers that I would like to recycle rather than throw in the trash for environmental reasons. Thanks, Jason -- Jason Friedman Ph.D. Student Department of Computer Science and Applied Mathematics Weizmann Institute of Science, Rehovot, Israel. Home page: http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~jason -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Job scheduler for Linux RedHat
Hi List, I am currenly looking for Job scheduler on Linux that is suiatble for a service bureau. Any suggestions will be appriciated. Israel Shikler Softkol Software Services -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ira Abramov Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 1:02 PM To: Linux-IL Subject: Re: MySQL License Quoting Diego Iastrubni, from the post of Mon, 26 Feb: We had this conversation a few weeks ago. You can always double license the application you develop, and in fact you can have a proprietary GPL application. Some examples: the examples you gave are not proprietary GPL apps they are free software, and thus non-proprietary, period. where they differ is, the owner of the copyright on the product is also offering a way for you to turn it into a part of your proprietary product by buying a limited license that is not GPL, to the same code. I even remember about a Java application which was developed by one single man and a company hired him to continue the work of his application for them. They bought a GPL application. they bought the time of a developper. seperately, they could also make him an offer and buy the copy rights to the product and re-publish it as non-GPL. that's a separate issue. In such a case, btw, the older copies of the GPL code already released are already out there and they can't do a thing about it. There are always workarounds for the GPL license, and you can make it non free on some situations. not if you are not the original owner of the copyrights. GPL does not provide you full freedom. Whatever that means. care to explain? Currently GPL is used by some companies to release code for the linux community and still be able to hide behine the GPL and continue their market domination on the market they gain money from Windows users, and the closed source market. of course. but unless you are talking about static linking with something non-free, they can't stop you from the taking their free Linux source and porting it to other platforms yourself and redistribute it. you can even sell support for that product for those other platforms and not give them back a dime, the GPL allows it. -- A special effect Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: g++ compilation problem
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Peter wrote: Hi all, I have a compilation problem: when compiling opal-2.2.5 , g++ reports: 'g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus)'. g++ is 'g++ (GCC) 3.3.6 (Debian 1:3.3.6-8)'. I would like to solve this without updating g++. I suggest to talk to the debian gcc team. If what they say is that you need to update, do it :) note that it is possible to have 1 gcc on the same machine, i.e., you can still have 3.3.6 as your default compiler, and only use 4.x.x as a non-default one by setting CC=... accordingly in the env. HTH, VKh = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: g++ compilation problem
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote: I have a compilation problem: when compiling opal-2.2.5 , g++ reports: 'g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus)'. g++ is 'g++ (GCC) 3.3.6 (Debian 1:3.3.6-8)'. I would like to solve this without updating g++. I suggest to talk to the debian gcc team. If what they say is that you need to update, do it :) note that it is possible to have 1 gcc on the same machine, i.e., you can still have 3.3.6 as your default compiler, and only use 4.x.x as a non-default one by setting CC=... accordingly in the env. The last time I updated the compiler alone it was like being reborn aout 3 times. I would PREFER not to do that. And g++ says to file a bug report, not upgrade. thanks, Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: g++ compilation problem
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Peter wrote: I suggest to talk to the debian gcc team. If what they say is that you need to update, do it :) note that it is possible to have 1 gcc on the same machine, i.e., you can still have 3.3.6 as your default compiler, and only use 4.x.x as a non-default one by setting CC=... accordingly in the env. The last time I updated the compiler alone it was like being reborn aout 3 times. I would PREFER not to do that. And g++ says to file a bug report, not upgrade. BTW, have you read through the g++ FAQ? Last time I had 3.3.x internal errors it turned out to be faulty RAM... I.e., on another similarly set up debian box, do you have the same problem? Be sure to file the bug report then... Also, you might want to talk to the opal developers -- maybe they have an easy workaround. V = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MySQL License
Ira Abramov wrote: dynamicly linking with GPL libraries is also fine, only static linking isn't. And you are ready to go to court on the basis of the word of the lawyer that told you this, right? Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] Codefidence. A name you can trust(tm) Web: http://codefidence.com | SIP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IL: +972.3.7515563 ext. 201 | Fax:+972.3.7515503 US: +1.212.2026643 ext. 201 | Cel: +972.52.8260388 Compile your program. Run sync three times to honour coders of old. -- glxtest README file = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: g++ compilation problem
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Peter wrote: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:03:10 +0200 (IST) From: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vassilii Khachaturov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: IGLU [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: g++ compilation problem On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote: I have a compilation problem: when compiling opal-2.2.5 , g++ reports: 'g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus)'. g++ is 'g++ (GCC) 3.3.6 (Debian 1:3.3.6-8)'. I would like to solve this without updating g++. I suggest to talk to the debian gcc team. If what they say is that you need to update, do it :) note that it is possible to have 1 gcc on the same machine, i.e., you can still have 3.3.6 as your default compiler, and only use 4.x.x as a non-default one by setting CC=... accordingly in the env. The last time I updated the compiler alone it was like being reborn aout 3 times. I would PREFER not to do that. And g++ says to file a bug report, not upgrade. thanks, Peter It would impose a burden on the development team, if you reported the bug without first checking if they have already fixed it. Upgrading the compiler is usually hell only between major version. But if you still do not wish to upgrade, I suggest you tested first if the problem appears on systems with a new compiler (preferably the last available version). Only if it does, I would recommend reporting the bug to the devel team. Orna. -- Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda http://ladypine.org/ ICQ: 348759096 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: g++ compilation problem
* Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070226 16:14]: On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote: I have a compilation problem: when compiling opal-2.2.5 , g++ reports: 'g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus)'. g++ is 'g++ (GCC) 3.3.6 (Debian 1:3.3.6-8)'. I would like to solve this without updating g++. I suggest to talk to the debian gcc team. If what they say is that you need to update, do it :) note that it is possible to have 1 gcc on the same machine, i.e., you can still have 3.3.6 as your default compiler, and only use 4.x.x as a non-default one by setting CC=... accordingly in the env. The last time I updated the compiler alone it was like being reborn aout 3 times. These days on Debian it's as simple as apt-get install g++-4.1 As you were told already, you can have multiple versions of gcc/g++ installed with ease. $ dpkg -l g++\* Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed | / Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii g++4.1.1-15 The GNU C++ compiler pn g++-2.95 none (no description available) ii g++-3.33.3.6-15 The GNU C++ compiler pn g++-3.4none (no description available) pn g++-4.0none (no description available) ii g++-4.14.1.1-21 The GNU C++ compiler Baruch = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Just another project management question
I'm looking for a project management software that I can run on my Linux box as well as have my partners use on their windows platform (or interoperate using some standard file format). The main problem I'm having is that we have a few large projects detailed in Microsoft Project format - do anyone know how one can get the data out of those files and into something useful? -- Oded ::.. If it weren't for C, we'd be writing programs in BASI, PASAL, and OBOL = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ies4linux (was Re: Firefox and Isracard)
El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 11:49 +0200, Gilboa Davara escribió: Just set the LANG to he_IL.UTF-8. Apply this patch to that $HOME/bin/ie6 shell script. [1] Hi, I´m trying to implement your patch modifying my $HOME/bin/ie6 with my limited knowledge in programing and scripting. I´m receiving errors from every line preceded by the symbol + by running $HOME/bin/ie6 and I still see ? symbols instead Hebrew characters. See also my comments at the bottom. === --- ie6.old 2007-02-26 11:46:11.0 +0200 +++ ie6 2007-02-26 11:46:21.0 +0200 @@ -1,11 +1,11 @@ #!/usr/bin/env bash # IEs 4 Linux script to run ie6 - http://tatanka.com.br/ies4linux - -cd +cd ~ +ENCODING=he_IL.UTF-8 export WINEPREFIX=/home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6 if [ -f /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun ]; then rm /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun - wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html; + LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html; else - wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@ + LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@ fi === - Gilboa [1] $ cd ~/bin $ patch -p /path/to/patch What means? It is not $HOME/bin/ie6? Thanks, Julian = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MySQL License
Quoting Gilad Ben-Yossef, from the post of Mon, 26 Feb: Ira Abramov wrote: dynamicly linking with GPL libraries is also fine, only static linking isn't. And you are ready to go to court on the basis of the word of the lawyer that told you this, right? If I had to go to court, I'd hire a lawyer. Probably Haim, if that's what you're suggesting :) If anyone on this list knows the right answer for conforming with the Israeli law, it's you and Haim at this point. Do tell me what your answer would be? -- Caped crusader Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ies4linux (was Re: Firefox and Isracard)
The plus means a line added. You should not put the plus sign at the beginning of the line in your script. What he did was running diff on his new file versus the original file and that was the output. -- Ori Idan On 2/26/07, Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 11:49 +0200, Gilboa Davara escribió: Just set the LANG to he_IL.UTF-8. Apply this patch to that $HOME/bin/ie6 shell script. [1] Hi, I´m trying to implement your patch modifying my $HOME/bin/ie6 with my limited knowledge in programing and scripting. I´m receiving errors from every line preceded by the symbol + by running $HOME/bin/ie6 and I still see ? symbols instead Hebrew characters. See also my comments at the bottom. === --- ie6.old 2007-02-26 11:46:11.0 +0200 +++ ie6 2007-02-26 11:46:21.0 +0200 @@ -1,11 +1,11 @@ #!/usr/bin/env bash # IEs 4 Linux script to run ie6 - http://tatanka.com.br/ies4linux - -cd +cd ~ +ENCODING=he_IL.UTF-8 export WINEPREFIX=/home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6 if [ -f /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun ]; then rm /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun - wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html; + LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html; else - wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@ + LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@ fi === - Gilboa [1] $ cd ~/bin $ patch -p /path/to/patch What means? It is not $HOME/bin/ie6? Thanks, Julian = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ies4linux (was Re: Firefox and Isracard)
El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 22:41 +0200, Ori Idan escribió: The plus means a line added. You should not put the plus sign at the beginning of the line in your script. It works! I also noted that these lines must not being added but substitute the precedent similar lines. I guess now that patch -p /path/to/patch was for adding the modifications to the ie6 script from a external file of the kind of Gilboa sent. What he did was running diff on his new file versus the original file and that was the output. Gilboa, Ori Thanks, Julian -- Ori Idan On 2/26/07, Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 11:49 +0200, Gilboa Davara escribió: Just set the LANG to he_IL.UTF-8. Apply this patch to that $HOME/bin/ie6 shell script. [1] Hi, I´m trying to implement your patch modifying my $HOME/bin/ie6 with my limited knowledge in programing and scripting. I´m receiving errors from every line preceded by the symbol + by running $HOME/bin/ie6 and I still see ? symbols instead Hebrew characters. See also my comments at the bottom. === --- ie6.old 2007-02-26 11:46:11.0 +0200 +++ ie6 2007-02-26 11:46:21.0 +0200 @@ -1,11 +1,11 @@ #!/usr/bin/env bash # IEs 4 Linux script to run ie6 - http://tatanka.com.br/ies4linux - -cd +cd ~ +ENCODING=he_IL.UTF-8 export WINEPREFIX=/home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6 if [ -f /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun ]; then rm /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun - wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html; + LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html; else - wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@ + LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@ fi === - Gilboa [1] $ cd ~/bin $ patch -p /path/to/patch What means? It is not $HOME/bin/ie6? Thanks, Julian = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MySQL License
Ira Abramov wrote: If anyone on this list knows the right answer for conforming with the Israeli law, it's you and Haim at this point. Do tell me what your answer would be? The correct answer is that there is no correct answer. Some easy fringe cases are easy (see my ReactOS answer), but everyday is, usually, not so clear cut. Also, as far as I know, there is no precedence to anyone in the world every trying the it's not a GPL violation because I'm not derived work defense, which means that there is no answer at all, period. Had MySQL been a superior database to PostgreSQL, I'd say that this is an interesting question worth investigation. Being as it is that it isn't, just go Postgres if the subject ever comes up. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting ltd. Have you backed up today's work? http://www.lingnu.com/backup.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: g++ compilation problem
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Baruch Even wrote: These days on Debian it's as simple as apt-get install g++-4.1 As you were told already, you can have multiple versions of gcc/g++ installed with ease. You are (wrongly) assuming that this can be done from woody - etch. Not so. There are other things I need to do before I can take that step. Peter P. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reward $4500 for GNOME memory analysis tool
Some time ago somebody interested in memory consumption in GNOME. Good! See: http://www.gnome.org/bounties/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ies4linux (was Re: Firefox and Isracard)
El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 23:25 +0200, Julian Daich escribió: I tried to implement the patch on my laptop. I just copied and pasted the ie6 file and I receiving the following error bin/ie6: line 13: LANG=he_IL.UTF-8: command not found What could went wrong? Julian On 2/26/07, Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 11:49 +0200, Gilboa Davara escribió: Just set the LANG to he_IL.UTF-8. Apply this patch to that $HOME/bin/ie6 shell script. === --- ie6.old 2007-02-26 11:46:11.0 +0200 +++ ie6 2007-02-26 11:46:21.0 +0200 @@ -1,11 +1,11 @@ #!/usr/bin/env bash # IEs 4 Linux script to run ie6 - http://tatanka.com.br/ies4linux - -cd +cd ~ +ENCODING=he_IL.UTF-8 export WINEPREFIX=/home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6 if [ -f /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun ]; then rm /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun - wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html; + LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html; else - wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@ + LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@ fi === - Gilboa = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] computer recycling
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:14:57PM +0200, Jason Friedman wrote: Sorry about the off-topic post, but I couldn't find this information anywhere . . . Is there anywhere in Israel where one can recycle old computers. I have several non-working and very old computers, monitors and printers that I would like to recycle rather than throw in the trash for environmental reasons. Thanks, Jason -- Jason Friedman Ph.D. Student Department of Computer Science and Applied Mathematics Weizmann Institute of Science, Rehovot, Israel. Home page: http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~jason Hi Jason, While I lived in Nes-Ziona and/or Rehovot, I used to donate old and very old computers and monitors IN WORKING CONDITION to Beit Hagimlai in Nes-Ziona, for machleket hatshushim. This included, until about one and a half year ago, old 486's. There are, probably, additional institutions which would welcome such donations... Another possibility is the free recycling organisation which someone mentioned on this list, a couple of months ago. Unfortunately, I very aptly deleted all the mail from the last year or so, and I am unable to give you the address. Googling for free recycling might give you the answer- It's an international organisation, which has active members in Israel, as well. Cheers, Avraham = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]