Re: MySQL License

2007-02-26 Thread Oron Peled
On Monday, 26 בFebruary 2007 09:42, Ori Idan wrote:
 Not exactly,  I think proprietary == commercial;
 and GPL != !commercial.

Sheesh, now we are into semantics:
  From http://www.webster.com/dictionary/proprietary
something that is used, produced, or marketed under exclusive
 legal right of the inventor or maker

Note the word *exclusive*.

 proprietary software is commercial...

Not always. If you distribute free of charge application without
source than you have *exclusive* control.
Such application is proprietary even if you do it as a personal hobby
with no commercial interest. As such, it is not allowed to be linked
against GPL code.

 ...and GPL can be also commercial. 

Yes.

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Re: MySQL License

2007-02-26 Thread Oron Peled
On Monday, 26 בFebruary 2007 09:35, Alex Dover wrote:
  OK, I'll put it in bold so you can see it:
...AND DO NOT LICENSE AND DISTRIBUTE THEIR SOURCE CODE UNDER THE
  GPL...
 
  So this applies only to those who *do not* distribute according to GPL.
 
 All I said was - MySQL restricts who can use their product under GPL
 license (unlike most other GPL software).

No they are not. You can choose GPL and use its terms *or*
proprietary license with its terms.

Q: What extra restriction does it impose over GPL ?
A: None -- the GPL allows commercial (but non-proprietary)
   use, distribution, modification under the same terms.

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Re: MySQL License

2007-02-26 Thread Alex Dover



No they are not. You can choose GPL and use its terms *or*
proprietary license with its terms.

Q: What extra restriction does it impose over GPL ?
A: None -- the GPL allows commercial (but non-proprietary)
   use, distribution, modification under the same terms.


I never said anything about linking to MySQL libraries. I was talking about
distributing MySQL as part of a propriety distribution(for the sake of the
argument lets say I'm using the regular ODBC driver to connect to a standard
MySQL database).
MySQL site states that I CAN NOT choose to use MySQL under GPL in this
scenario. Again - NO linking, NO patching, just distributing

-Alex.


Re: script problem

2007-02-26 Thread Alex Dover

Running the script with sh -x should show you the faulty parameters.

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Re: MySQL License

2007-02-26 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Ori Idan, from the post of Mon, 26 Feb:
 In MySQL if your software is GPL you do not need to pay. (remember you may
 sell GPL so GPL is also commercial).
 
 If your software is PROPRIATRY you should pay to MySQL.

Then it's not the GPL. it's the text of the GPL with an exception that
violates one of the four basic freedoms, and thus kicks it out of the
definition of a free software product, am I right?

For instance, a qlient of mine is using for its product a mainly
MozillaPL-like license with one item (which does not interact with the
MySQL at all) under a completely proprietery license. Are you saying
it's illegal to include MySQL in such a product?

what if the product downloads and installs a Fedora-core RPM during its
own installation?

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Re: MySQL License

2007-02-26 Thread Alex Dover

And here we come full circle to my original question :)



Then it's not the GPL. it's the text of the GPL with an exception that
violates one of the four basic freedoms, and thus kicks it out of the
definition of a free software product, am I right?

For instance, a qlient of mine is using for its product a mainly
MozillaPL-like license with one item (which does not interact with the
MySQL at all) under a completely proprietery license. Are you saying
it's illegal to include MySQL in such a product?

what if the product downloads and installs a Fedora-core RPM during its
own installation?





Re: script problem

2007-02-26 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Alex Dover, from the post of Mon, 26 Feb:
 Running the script with sh -x should show you the faulty parameters.

and for a really fun output, set -x should never be run without a useful
PS4 to acompany it. Try this one for instance:

export PS4='(${BASH_SOURCE}:${LINENO}): ${FUNCNAME[0]}\n'

taken from the Bash Debugger howto...
http://bashdb.sourceforge.net/bashdb.html

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Re: MySQL License

2007-02-26 Thread Diego Iastrubni
ביום שני 26 פברואר 2007, 09:47, נכתב על ידי Oron Peled:
 Nothing is additional. No GPL software can be proprietary. Period.

Oron,

We had this conversation a few weeks ago. You can always double license the 
application you develop, and in fact you can have a proprietary GPL 
application. Some examples:

* MySQL 
* Qt4,Qt3
* OpenOffice (does StarOffice still exist?)
* Asterisk
* Zaptel (non GPL kernel code! bad boy!)
* Xara (currently even the GPL free version links to a non GPL library)
* VirtualBox

I even remember about a Java application which was developed by one single man 
and a company hired him to continue the work of his application for them. 
They bought a GPL application.

There are always workarounds for the GPL license, and you can make it non 
free on some situations. GPL does not provide you full freedom. Whatever 
that means. Currently GPL is used by some companies to release code for 
the linux community and still be able to hide behine the GPL and continue 
their market domination on the market they gain money from Windows users, and 
the closed source market.

- diego

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Re: ies4linux (was Re: Firefox and Isracard)

2007-02-26 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 00:17 +0200, Julian Daich wrote:
 El dom, 25-02-2007 a las 11:40 +0200, Gilboa Davara escribió:
 
  
  FYI, IE4sLinux has a beta version that supports IE7. (I've played with
  it a bit - and it seems to work just fine.)
  
 Do you can write nativelly in Hebrew on it without pasting up from other
 application?
 Using ie6 under Wine I have to copy and paste from OpenOffice if I have
 to write in Hebrew. 
 
  - Gilboa

Just set the LANG to he_IL.UTF-8.

Apply this patch to that $HOME/bin/ie6 shell script. [1]

===
--- ie6.old 2007-02-26 11:46:11.0 +0200
+++ ie6 2007-02-26 11:46:21.0 +0200
@@ -1,11 +1,11 @@
 #!/usr/bin/env bash
 # IEs 4 Linux script to run ie6 - http://tatanka.com.br/ies4linux
-
-cd
+cd ~
+ENCODING=he_IL.UTF-8
 export WINEPREFIX=/home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6
 if [ -f /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun ]; then
rm /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun
-   wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet
Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html;
+   LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program
Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE
http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html;
 else
-   wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet
Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@
+   LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program
Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@
 fi
===

- Gilboa
[1]
$ cd ~/bin
$ patch -p  /path/to/patch


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Re: MySQL License

2007-02-26 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Diego Iastrubni, from the post of Mon, 26 Feb:
 
 We had this conversation a few weeks ago. You can always double license the 
 application you develop, and in fact you can have a proprietary GPL 
 application. Some examples:

the examples you gave are not proprietary GPL apps they are free
software, and thus non-proprietary, period.

where they differ is, the owner of the copyright on the product is also
offering a way for you to turn it into a part of your proprietary
product by buying a limited license that is not GPL, to the same code.

 I even remember about a Java application which was developed by one single 
 man 
 and a company hired him to continue the work of his application for them. 
 They bought a GPL application.

they bought the time of a developper. seperately, they could also make
him an offer and buy the copy rights to the product and re-publish it as
non-GPL. that's a separate issue. In such a case, btw, the older copies
of the GPL code already released are already out there and they can't do
a thing about it.

 There are always workarounds for the GPL license, and you can make it non 
 free on some situations.

not if you are not the original owner of the copyrights.

 GPL does not provide you full freedom. Whatever that means. 

care to explain?

 Currently GPL is used by some companies to release code for 
 the linux community and still be able to hide behine the GPL and continue 
 their market domination on the market they gain money from Windows users, and 
 the closed source market.

of course. but unless you are talking about static linking with
something non-free, they can't stop you from the taking their free Linux
source and porting it to other platforms yourself and redistribute it.
you can even sell support for that product for those other platforms and
not give them back a dime, the GPL allows it.

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g++ compilation problem

2007-02-26 Thread Peter


Hi all,

I have a compilation problem: when compiling opal-2.2.5 , g++ reports: 
'g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus)'. g++ is 'g++ (GCC) 3.3.6 
(Debian 1:3.3.6-8)'. I would like to solve this without updating g++. 
Thanks,


Peter

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[OT] computer recycling

2007-02-26 Thread Jason Friedman
Sorry about the off-topic post, but I couldn't find this information 
anywhere . . .



Is there anywhere in Israel where one can recycle old computers. I have

several non-working and very old computers, monitors and printers that I 
would like


to recycle rather than throw in the trash for environmental reasons.


Thanks,


Jason

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Re: [OT] computer recycling

2007-02-26 Thread Julian Daich
Hi,

I´m preparing a computer class for children in Linux at Givataim with
some friends. It is intended to be a community center supported by
artists and creative people( they are still docked at pirated Windows at
their personal PCs, but I´m working on that). I already mounted three
computers from scratch and they run Xubuntu/ Edubuntu and maybe
Fluxbuntu or SDL for old PIs/ MMX.
We need monitors, PC- 100 and 133 memories and any other working junk. I
will be more than happy in receiving your stuff. 

Julian 

El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 14:14 +0200, Jason Friedman escribió:
 Sorry about the off-topic post, but I couldn't find this information
 anywhere . . . 
 
 
 Is there anywhere in Israel where one can recycle old computers. I
 have
 
 several non-working and very old computers, monitors and printers that
 I would like
 
 to recycle rather than throw in the trash for environmental reasons.
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 Jason
 
 
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 Ph.D. Student
 Department of Computer Science and Applied Mathematics
 Weizmann Institute of Science, Rehovot, Israel.
 Home page: http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~jason
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Job scheduler for Linux RedHat

2007-02-26 Thread Israel Shikler
Hi List,

  I am currenly looking for Job scheduler on Linux that is suiatble for a
service bureau.

  Any suggestions will be appriciated.



Israel Shikler

Softkol Software Services


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ira Abramov
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 1:02 PM
To: Linux-IL
Subject: Re: MySQL License


Quoting Diego Iastrubni, from the post of Mon, 26 Feb:

 We had this conversation a few weeks ago. You can always double license
the
 application you develop, and in fact you can have a proprietary GPL
 application. Some examples:

the examples you gave are not proprietary GPL apps they are free
software, and thus non-proprietary, period.

where they differ is, the owner of the copyright on the product is also
offering a way for you to turn it into a part of your proprietary
product by buying a limited license that is not GPL, to the same code.

 I even remember about a Java application which was developed by one single
man
 and a company hired him to continue the work of his application for them.
 They bought a GPL application.

they bought the time of a developper. seperately, they could also make
him an offer and buy the copy rights to the product and re-publish it as
non-GPL. that's a separate issue. In such a case, btw, the older copies
of the GPL code already released are already out there and they can't do
a thing about it.

 There are always workarounds for the GPL license, and you can make it non
 free on some situations.

not if you are not the original owner of the copyrights.

 GPL does not provide you full freedom. Whatever that means.

care to explain?

 Currently GPL is used by some companies to release code for
 the linux community and still be able to hide behine the GPL and
continue
 their market domination on the market they gain money from Windows users,
and
 the closed source market.

of course. but unless you are talking about static linking with
something non-free, they can't stop you from the taking their free Linux
source and porting it to other platforms yourself and redistribute it.
you can even sell support for that product for those other platforms and
not give them back a dime, the GPL allows it.

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Re: g++ compilation problem

2007-02-26 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Peter wrote:


 Hi all,

 I have a compilation problem: when compiling opal-2.2.5 , g++ reports:
 'g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus)'. g++ is 'g++ (GCC) 3.3.6
 (Debian 1:3.3.6-8)'. I would like to solve this without updating g++.

I suggest to talk to the debian gcc team. If what they say is that you
need to update, do it :) note that it is possible to have 1 gcc on the
same machine, i.e., you can still have 3.3.6 as your default compiler, and
only use 4.x.x as a non-default one by setting CC=... accordingly in the
env.

HTH,
VKh


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Re: g++ compilation problem

2007-02-26 Thread Peter


On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote:


I have a compilation problem: when compiling opal-2.2.5 , g++ reports:
'g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus)'. g++ is 'g++ (GCC) 3.3.6
(Debian 1:3.3.6-8)'. I would like to solve this without updating g++.


I suggest to talk to the debian gcc team. If what they say is that you
need to update, do it :) note that it is possible to have 1 gcc on the
same machine, i.e., you can still have 3.3.6 as your default compiler, and
only use 4.x.x as a non-default one by setting CC=... accordingly in the
env.


The last time I updated the compiler alone it was like being reborn aout 
3 times. I would PREFER not to do that. And g++ says to file a bug 
report, not upgrade.


thanks,
Peter

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Re: g++ compilation problem

2007-02-26 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Peter wrote:

  I suggest to talk to the debian gcc team. If what they say is that you
  need to update, do it :) note that it is possible to have 1 gcc on the
  same machine, i.e., you can still have 3.3.6 as your default compiler, and
  only use 4.x.x as a non-default one by setting CC=... accordingly in the
  env.

 The last time I updated the compiler alone it was like being reborn aout
 3 times. I would PREFER not to do that. And g++ says to file a bug
 report, not upgrade.

BTW, have you read through the g++ FAQ? Last time I had 3.3.x
internal errors it turned out to be faulty RAM... I.e., on another
similarly set up debian box, do you have the same problem?

Be sure to file the bug report then... Also, you might want to talk to the
opal developers -- maybe they have an easy workaround.


V



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Re: MySQL License

2007-02-26 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef

Ira Abramov wrote:

dynamicly linking with GPL libraries is

also fine, only static linking isn't.


And you are ready to go to court on the basis of the word of the lawyer that 
told you this, right?


Gilad


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Re: g++ compilation problem

2007-02-26 Thread Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda

On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Peter wrote:


Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:03:10 +0200 (IST)
From: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vassilii Khachaturov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: IGLU [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: g++ compilation problem


On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote:


I have a compilation problem: when compiling opal-2.2.5 , g++ reports:
'g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus)'. g++ is 'g++ (GCC) 3.3.6
(Debian 1:3.3.6-8)'. I would like to solve this without updating g++.


I suggest to talk to the debian gcc team. If what they say is that you
need to update, do it :) note that it is possible to have 1 gcc on the
same machine, i.e., you can still have 3.3.6 as your default compiler, and
only use 4.x.x as a non-default one by setting CC=... accordingly in the
env.


The last time I updated the compiler alone it was like being reborn aout 3 
times. I would PREFER not to do that. And g++ says to file a bug report, not 
upgrade.


thanks,
Peter


It would impose a burden on the development team, if you reported the bug 
without first checking if they have already fixed it.


Upgrading the compiler is usually hell only between major version.

But if you still do not wish to upgrade, I suggest you tested first if 
the problem appears on systems with a new compiler (preferably the last 
available version). Only if it does, I would recommend reporting the bug 
to the devel team.


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Re: g++ compilation problem

2007-02-26 Thread Baruch Even
* Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070226 16:14]:
 
 On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote:
 
 I have a compilation problem: when compiling opal-2.2.5 , g++ reports:
 'g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus)'. g++ is 'g++ (GCC) 3.3.6
 (Debian 1:3.3.6-8)'. I would like to solve this without updating g++.
 
 I suggest to talk to the debian gcc team. If what they say is that you
 need to update, do it :) note that it is possible to have 1 gcc on the
 same machine, i.e., you can still have 3.3.6 as your default compiler, and
 only use 4.x.x as a non-default one by setting CC=... accordingly in the
 env.
 
 The last time I updated the compiler alone it was like being reborn aout 3 
 times.

These days on Debian it's as simple as apt-get install g++-4.1
As you were told already, you can have multiple versions of gcc/g++
installed with ease.

$ dpkg -l g++\*
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
| / Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   VersionDescription
+++-==-==-
ii  g++4.1.1-15   The GNU C++ compiler
pn  g++-2.95   none (no description available)
ii  g++-3.33.3.6-15   The GNU C++ compiler
pn  g++-3.4none (no description available)
pn  g++-4.0none (no description available)
ii  g++-4.14.1.1-21   The GNU C++ compiler


Baruch

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Just another project management question

2007-02-26 Thread Oded Arbel

I'm looking for a project management software that I can run on my Linux
box as well as have my partners use on their windows platform (or
interoperate using some standard file format). The main problem I'm
having is that we have a few large projects detailed in Microsoft
Project format - do anyone know how one can get the data out of those
files and into something useful?

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Re: ies4linux (was Re: Firefox and Isracard)

2007-02-26 Thread Julian Daich
El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 11:49 +0200, Gilboa Davara escribió: 
 Just set the LANG to he_IL.UTF-8.
 
 Apply this patch to that $HOME/bin/ie6 shell script. [1]

Hi,
I´m trying to implement your patch modifying my $HOME/bin/ie6 with my
limited knowledge in programing and scripting. I´m receiving errors from
every line preceded by the symbol + by running $HOME/bin/ie6 and I still
see ? symbols instead Hebrew characters.
See also my comments at the bottom. 
 ===
 --- ie6.old 2007-02-26 11:46:11.0 +0200
 +++ ie6 2007-02-26 11:46:21.0 +0200
 @@ -1,11 +1,11 @@
  #!/usr/bin/env bash
  # IEs 4 Linux script to run ie6 - http://tatanka.com.br/ies4linux
 -
 -cd
 +cd ~
 +ENCODING=he_IL.UTF-8
  export WINEPREFIX=/home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6
  if [ -f /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun ]; then
 rm /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun
 -   wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet
 Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html;
 +   LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program
 Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE
 http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html;
  else
 -   wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet
 Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@
 +   LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program
 Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@
  fi
 ===
 
 - Gilboa
 [1]
 $ cd ~/bin
 $ patch -p  /path/to/patch
What means? It is not $HOME/bin/ie6?

Thanks,

Julian 
 
 
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Re: MySQL License

2007-02-26 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Gilad Ben-Yossef, from the post of Mon, 26 Feb:
 Ira Abramov wrote:
 
  dynamicly linking with GPL libraries is
 also fine, only static linking isn't.
 
 And you are ready to go to court on the basis of the word of the
 lawyer that told you this, right?

If I had to go to court, I'd hire a lawyer. Probably Haim, if that's
what you're suggesting :)

If anyone on this list knows the right answer for conforming with the
Israeli law, it's you and Haim at this point. Do tell me what your
answer would be?

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Re: ies4linux (was Re: Firefox and Isracard)

2007-02-26 Thread Ori Idan

The plus means a line added.
You should not put the plus sign at the beginning of the line in your
script.

What he did was running diff on his new file versus the original file and
that was the output.

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On 2/26/07, Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 11:49 +0200, Gilboa Davara escribió:
 Just set the LANG to he_IL.UTF-8.

 Apply this patch to that $HOME/bin/ie6 shell script. [1]

Hi,
I´m trying to implement your patch modifying my $HOME/bin/ie6 with my
limited knowledge in programing and scripting. I´m receiving errors from
every line preceded by the symbol + by running $HOME/bin/ie6 and I still
see ? symbols instead Hebrew characters.
See also my comments at the bottom.
 ===
 --- ie6.old 2007-02-26 11:46:11.0 +0200
 +++ ie6 2007-02-26 11:46:21.0 +0200
 @@ -1,11 +1,11 @@
  #!/usr/bin/env bash
  # IEs 4 Linux script to run ie6 - http://tatanka.com.br/ies4linux
 -
 -cd
 +cd ~
 +ENCODING=he_IL.UTF-8
  export WINEPREFIX=/home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6
  if [ -f /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun ]; then
 rm /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun
 -   wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet
 Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html;
 +   LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program
 Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE
 http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html;
  else
 -   wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet
 Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@
 +   LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program
 Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@
  fi
 ===

 - Gilboa
 [1]
 $ cd ~/bin
 $ patch -p  /path/to/patch
What means? It is not $HOME/bin/ie6?

Thanks,

Julian


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Re: ies4linux (was Re: Firefox and Isracard)

2007-02-26 Thread Julian Daich
El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 22:41 +0200, Ori Idan escribió:
 The plus means a line added.
 You should not put the plus sign at the beginning of the line in your
 script.
It works! I also noted that these lines must not being added but
substitute the precedent similar lines. I guess now that patch -p
 /path/to/patch was for adding the modifications to the ie6 script from
a external file of the kind of Gilboa sent.
 
 What he did was running diff on his new file versus the original file
 and that was the output.
 
Gilboa, Ori
Thanks,

Julian
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 Ori Idan
 
 
 On 2/26/07, Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 11:49 +0200, Gilboa Davara escribió:
  Just set the LANG to he_IL.UTF-8.
 
  Apply this patch to that $HOME/bin/ie6 shell script. [1]
 
 Hi,
 I´m trying to implement your patch modifying my $HOME/bin/ie6
 with my 
 limited knowledge in programing and scripting. I´m receiving
 errors from
 every line preceded by the symbol + by running $HOME/bin/ie6
 and I still
 see ? symbols instead Hebrew characters.
 See also my comments at the bottom. 
  ===
  --- ie6.old 2007-02-26 11:46:11.0 +0200
  +++ ie6 2007-02-26 11:46:21.0 +0200
  @@ -1,11 +1,11 @@
   #!/usr/bin/env bash
   # IEs 4 Linux script to run ie6 -
 http://tatanka.com.br/ies4linux
  -
  -cd
  +cd ~
  +ENCODING=he_IL.UTF-8
   export WINEPREFIX=/home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6
   if [ -f /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun ]; then 
  rm /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun
  -   wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program
 Files/Internet
  Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE
 http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html;
  +   LANG=$ENCODING wine
 /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program
  Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE
  http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html;
   else
  -   wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program
 Files/Internet
  Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@
  +   LANG=$ENCODING wine
 /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program 
  Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@
   fi
  ===
 
  - Gilboa
  [1]
  $ cd ~/bin
  $ patch -p  /path/to/patch
 What means? It is not $HOME/bin/ie6? 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Julian
 
 
 
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Re: MySQL License

2007-02-26 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Ira Abramov wrote:
 If anyone on this list knows the right answer for conforming with the
 Israeli law, it's you and Haim at this point. Do tell me what your
 answer would be?
   
The correct answer is that there is no correct answer. Some easy fringe
cases are easy (see my ReactOS answer), but everyday is, usually, not so
clear cut.

Also, as far as I know, there is no precedence to anyone in the world
every trying the it's not a GPL violation because I'm not derived work
defense, which means that there is no answer at all, period.

Had MySQL been a superior database to PostgreSQL, I'd say that this is
an interesting question worth investigation. Being as it is that it
isn't, just go Postgres if the subject ever comes up.

Shachar

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Re: g++ compilation problem

2007-02-26 Thread Peter


On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Baruch Even wrote:


These days on Debian it's as simple as apt-get install g++-4.1
As you were told already, you can have multiple versions of gcc/g++
installed with ease.


You are (wrongly) assuming that this can be done from woody - etch. Not 
so. There are other things I need to do before I can take that step.


Peter P.


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Reward $4500 for GNOME memory analysis tool

2007-02-26 Thread Constantine Shulyupin

Some time ago somebody interested in memory consumption in GNOME.

Good!

See: http://www.gnome.org/bounties/

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Re: ies4linux (was Re: Firefox and Isracard)

2007-02-26 Thread Julian Daich
El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 23:25 +0200, Julian Daich escribió:
I tried to implement the patch on my laptop. I just copied and pasted
the ie6 file and I receiving the following error

bin/ie6: line 13: LANG=he_IL.UTF-8: command not found

What could went wrong?

Julian

  
  
  On 2/26/07, Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 11:49 +0200, Gilboa Davara escribió:
   Just set the LANG to he_IL.UTF-8.
  
   Apply this patch to that $HOME/bin/ie6 shell script.
  
  
   ===
   --- ie6.old 2007-02-26 11:46:11.0 +0200
   +++ ie6 2007-02-26 11:46:21.0 +0200
   @@ -1,11 +1,11 @@
#!/usr/bin/env bash
# IEs 4 Linux script to run ie6 -
  http://tatanka.com.br/ies4linux
   -
   -cd
   +cd ~
   +ENCODING=he_IL.UTF-8
export WINEPREFIX=/home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6
if [ -f /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun ]; then 
   rm /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun
   -   wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program
  Files/Internet
   Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE
  http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html;
   +   LANG=$ENCODING wine
  /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program
   Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE
   http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html;
else
   -   wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program
  Files/Internet
   Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@
   +   LANG=$ENCODING wine
  /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program 
   Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@
fi
   ===
  
   - Gilboa
   
  
  
  
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Re: [OT] computer recycling

2007-02-26 Thread Avraham Rosenberg
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:14:57PM +0200, Jason Friedman wrote:
 Sorry about the off-topic post, but I couldn't find this information 
 anywhere . . .
 
 
 Is there anywhere in Israel where one can recycle old computers. I have
 
 several non-working and very old computers, monitors and printers that I 
 would like
 
 to recycle rather than throw in the trash for environmental reasons.
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 Jason
 
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 Ph.D. Student
 Department of Computer Science and Applied Mathematics
 Weizmann Institute of Science, Rehovot, Israel.
 Home page: http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~jason
 
Hi Jason,
While I lived in Nes-Ziona and/or Rehovot, I used to donate old 
and very old computers and monitors IN WORKING CONDITION to 
Beit Hagimlai in Nes-Ziona, for machleket hatshushim. 
This included, until  about one and a half year ago, old 486's.
There are, probably, additional institutions which would welcome
such donations...
Another possibility is the free recycling organisation which
someone mentioned on this list, a couple of months ago.
Unfortunately, I very aptly deleted all the mail from the last
year or so, and I am unable to give you the address. Googling for
free recycling might give you the answer- It's an international
organisation, which has active members in Israel, as well.
Cheers, Avraham

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