Re: Linux Administration Bible recommendations

2003-02-15 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 12:33:42AM +0200, Yehuda Drori wrote:
 
 I would also recommend the old and basic guides:
 

   ...

 The Linux Network Administrators' Guide
  Version: 1.0
  Author(s): Olaf Kirch
 


  This book has a newer 2nd edition. I believe you didn't mention it
either because you were not aware of that fact or that you haven't read
it. Or is there a more subtle reason?

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Linux Administration Bible recommendations

2003-02-14 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt

Hi,

A friend of mine asked me for a recommendation for one or two
comprehensive intermediate level (i.e. not for complete novices or
idiots) reference books on Linux system and network administration,
and though I am usually able to find the right FM for a question at
hand, I found myself unable to recommend any single reference source
in a form of a dead tree or parchment.

Assuming responses like Why does he need a book at all? are
redirected to /dev/null, can anyone recommend anything generic enough
and comprehensive enough? Updated and correct to a reasonable degree...

It's OK if it is specific to a major distro. If it isn't - so much the
better. If there are none - it's a good answer as well.

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Re: Linux Administration Bible recommendations

2003-02-14 Thread Daniel Feiglin
Hello!

In my early days (circa 1998-9) I made heavy use of the following 
kilobook library:

* Using Linux - Tackett  Gunter, Que ... Not bad in its time
* Open Linux: Complete Reference - Peteren, Osborne ... Easier to use 
than Tackett, but not as extensive
* Redhat Linux Unleashed - Pitts  Ball, Sams ... I was a Redhat user 
then and it did help
* Linux Network Toolkit - Sery, IDG ... So, so but useful for waht I 
needed at the time
* Using Samba - Sharpe, Que ... Intermediate. Got it at half price from 
Bug during their English book liquidation sale.

and of course,

*Linux Complete and Unix Complete, both Sybex and dirt cheap.

All of this stuff is completely outdated vis-a-vis desktop 
configuration, but for command line stuff they are still useful. Each of 
the above items has strengths and weaknesses (which is why I used 
several of them).

The Sery book was useful in setting up my little office network, but 
it's now way out of date. (I use the SWAT GUI to maintain Samba, and it 
has almost nothing useful on Apache, with which I'm pottering around at 
the moment.) For NFS, you don't need a book.

You can of course get NAG and SAG online (they comes with the SuSE 
distribution).

Over the years I added a few Riley books on specific subjects (a matter 
of taste and direction).

Any further comment on this matter is dependent on what your friend 
wants to do with his system. (My own library is heavily slanted towards 
user-land programming [C/C++/Java] which may not be relevant to you.)

Another thing: Get your friend to use man or info or whatever catches 
his fancy. Whenever I use a man page a lot, I print it out and put it in 
a binder. After several years of this, I have a homemade book which 
matches my own requirements.(I haven't succeded in doing that with 
info.) To get him started, pick out a list of commonly needed things and 
waste some paper. Here are some of mine:

depmod/insmod, fstab, ftp,lilo (or grub), ln, moddeprobe, module.conf, 
mount/umount, proc, ps, rm, swat, tar

For a real beginner, you add such things at cat, cp etc.

Regards,

Daniel

Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
Hi,

A friend of mine asked me for a recommendation for one or two
comprehensive intermediate level (i.e. not for complete novices or
idiots) reference books on Linux system and network administration,
and though I am usually able to find the right FM for a question at
hand, I found myself unable to recommend any single reference source
in a form of a dead tree or parchment.

Assuming responses like Why does he need a book at all? are
redirected to /dev/null, can anyone recommend anything generic enough
and comprehensive enough? Updated and correct to a reasonable degree...

It's OK if it is specific to a major distro. If it isn't - so much the
better. If there are none - it's a good answer as well.




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Re: Linux Administration Bible recommendations

2003-02-14 Thread Shaul Karl
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:31:42AM +0200, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 A friend of mine asked me for a recommendation for one or two
 comprehensive intermediate level (i.e. not for complete novices or
 idiots) reference books on Linux system and network administration,
 and though I am usually able to find the right FM for a question at
 hand, I found myself unable to recommend any single reference source
 in a form of a dead tree or parchment.
 
 Assuming responses like Why does he need a book at all? are
 redirected to /dev/null, can anyone recommend anything generic enough
 and comprehensive enough? Updated and correct to a reasonable degree...
 
 It's OK if it is specific to a major distro. If it isn't - so much the
 better. If there are none - it's a good answer as well.
 
 -- 
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  I don't know whether it will suits your friend needs. Yet the Lip's
NAG can be read online and for free so that your friend can decides
by himself.
  By the way, does anyone here is/was subscribed to O'reilly online 
library (Safary I believe)?
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Re: Linux Administration Bible recommendations

2003-02-14 Thread Doron Ofek
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 Hi,

 A friend of mine asked me for a recommendation for one or two
 comprehensive intermediate level (i.e. not for complete novices or
 idiots) reference books on Linux system and network administration,
 and though I am usually able to find the right FM for a question at
 hand, I found myself unable to recommend any single reference source
 in a form of a dead tree or parchment.

 Assuming responses like Why does he need a book at all? are
 redirected to /dev/null, can anyone recommend anything generic enough
 and comprehensive enough? Updated and correct to a reasonable degree...

 It's OK if it is specific to a major distro. If it isn't - so much the
 better. If there are none - it's a good answer as well.
Hi Oleg

1. Securing and Optimizing LINUX The Hacking Solution /Gerhrd Mourani 
(www.openna.com).
2. Red Hat Linux Networking and system administration / Terry Collings and 
Kurt Wall / redhat PRESS
3. Red Hat Linux security and optimization / Mohammed J. Kabir /redhat PRESS

Doron
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Re: Linux Administration Bible recommendations

2003-02-14 Thread Voguemaster
Hi,

I'd recommend the following book:
Linux Administration: A Beginner's Guide - Steve Shah

This book, albeit older is quite good as a starting point
for administration. It also touches the usage of the CLI
and it covers some very basic administration functions.
It even shows how to incorporate your linux server into
a windows workgroup.
The only problem with it is that it covers RH 6.1 and many
things have changed since then...

Eli



On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 10:31:42 +0200, Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


Hi,

A friend of mine asked me for a recommendation for one or two
comprehensive intermediate level (i.e. not for complete novices or
idiots) reference books on Linux system and network administration,
and though I am usually able to find the right FM for a question at
hand, I found myself unable to recommend any single reference source
in a form of a dead tree or parchment.

Assuming responses like Why does he need a book at all? are
redirected to /dev/null, can anyone recommend anything generic enough
and comprehensive enough? Updated and correct to a reasonable degree...

It's OK if it is specific to a major distro. If it isn't - so much the
better. If there are none - it's a good answer as well.





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Re: Linux Administration Bible recommendations

2003-02-14 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:31:42AM +0200, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:

 A friend of mine asked me for a recommendation for one or two
 comprehensive intermediate level (i.e. not for complete novices or
 idiots) reference books on Linux system and network administration,
 and though I am usually able to find the right FM for a question at
 hand, I found myself unable to recommend any single reference source
 in a form of a dead tree or parchment.

During one weekend of guard duty in the IDF, a long time ago, I read
the Unix System Administration Handbook, by Evi Nemeth et al. My
outlook on sysadmining has never been the same. Nowdays, they also
have Linux Administration Handbook. 

Check out http://www.admin.com/. USAH is highly recommended, and I
would assume so is LAH, by proxy. 
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Re: Linux Administration Bible recommendations

2003-02-14 Thread Yehuda Drori
On Friday 14 February 2003 18:36, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:31:42AM +0200, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
  A friend of mine asked me for a recommendation for one or two
  comprehensive intermediate level (i.e. not for complete novices or
  idiots) reference books on Linux system and network administration,
  and though I am usually able to find the right FM for a question at
  hand, I found myself unable to recommend any single reference source
  in a form of a dead tree or parchment.

 During one weekend of guard duty in the IDF, a long time ago, I read
 the Unix System Administration Handbook, by Evi Nemeth et al. My
 outlook on sysadmining has never been the same. Nowdays, they also
 have Linux Administration Handbook.

I sec. 
I used Unix System Administration Handbook 3rd edition two ( maybe 3 ) years 
ago when I was teaching as a Metargel at Michlelet Sapir.

it's one of the most comprehensive and complete book to start from.. 

my best spent 373 Nis.. ;-)

I would also recommend the old and basic guides:

Installation and Getting Started Guide
 Author(s): Eric S. Raymond

The Linux System Administrators' Guide
 Version: 0.6
 Author(s): Lars Wirzenius

The Linux Network Administrators' Guide
 Version: 1.0
 Author(s): Olaf Kirch




 Check out http://www.admin.com/. USAH is highly recommended, and I
 would assume so is LAH, by proxy.

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