Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Dov Grobgeld
After all these years SI1452 still amazes me. Who would want to replace the
Shift Numeral keys with nikud? In order to write SHALOM! (assuming that
capital characters are hebrew) you would then need to press [Language
shift][Shift][1][Language Shift] to get the final exclamation mark. Does
anyone know anyone who is actually doing this?

That's why I suggested the alternative at

http://imagic.weizmann.ac.il/~dov/Hebrew/pango-hebrew.html

The idea is that it makes more sense to press the [Language shift] key
before typing latin characters than punctuation characters.

Regards,
Dov

2009/3/5 Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il


 Guess that answers the question about RLM/LRM.

  - yba

 On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Baruch Siach wrote:

  Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:04:16 +0200
 From: Baruch Siach bar...@tkos.co.il
 To: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il
 Cc: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com, linux-il. linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
 
 Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

 Hi Yonatan,

 On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:

 What is standard Hebrew keyboard layout (disregarding aleph-tav)?


 How about SI1452?

 http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm

 baruch

  On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:

  Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:13:24 +0200
 From: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com
 To: linux-il. linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
 Subject: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

 Where is the RLM (right to left mark) on the standard Hebrew keyboard
 layout? I have googled and found that I can configure the Lyx layout
 and then the RTM character is at Ctrl-Y, but can I make it Ctrl-{ like
 in another popular OS?

 Also, where is a list of the Shift characters in Lyx? I have found
 some images that show where the nikud are, but none of them show the
 RTM and LTM marks, and I suspect that they may be otherwise incomplete
 as well. Thanks.

 Suggestions for other alternative Hebrew layouts welcome!




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Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
 How about SI1452?

 http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm

Thanks, Baruch, but those alt- characters don't match _any_ of the
layouts on my system! It seems to be closest to Biblical, but the RLM
and LRM characters do not work. I have these available keyboard
layouts:
Default
Basic
Lyx
Phonetic
Biblical

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Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham

Hi Dov,
I'd like to see a vote on this, or maybe just a discussion.
Maybe there is a possibility of adopting this as a second standard.
Anyone else have opinions about this?

 - yba


On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Dov Grobgeld wrote:


Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:23:37 +0200
From: Dov Grobgeld dov.grobg...@gmail.com
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il
Cc: Baruch Siach bar...@tkos.co.il, linux-il. linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

After all these years SI1452 still amazes me. Who would want to replace the
Shift Numeral keys with nikud? In order to write SHALOM! (assuming that
capital characters are hebrew) you would then need to press [Language
shift][Shift][1][Language Shift] to get the final exclamation mark. Does
anyone know anyone who is actually doing this?

That's why I suggested the alternative at

http://imagic.weizmann.ac.il/~dov/Hebrew/pango-hebrew.html

The idea is that it makes more sense to press the [Language shift] key
before typing latin characters than punctuation characters.

Regards,
Dov

2009/3/5 Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il



Guess that answers the question about RLM/LRM.

 - yba

On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Baruch Siach wrote:

 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:04:16 +0200

From: Baruch Siach bar...@tkos.co.il
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il
Cc: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com, linux-il. linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il



Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

Hi Yonatan,

On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:


What is standard Hebrew keyboard layout (disregarding aleph-tav)?



How about SI1452?

http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm

baruch

 On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:


 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:13:24 +0200

From: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com
To: linux-il. linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Subject: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

Where is the RLM (right to left mark) on the standard Hebrew keyboard
layout? I have googled and found that I can configure the Lyx layout
and then the RTM character is at Ctrl-Y, but can I make it Ctrl-{ like
in another popular OS?

Also, where is a list of the Shift characters in Lyx? I have found
some images that show where the nikud are, but none of them show the
RTM and LTM marks, and I suspect that they may be otherwise incomplete
as well. Thanks.

Suggestions for other alternative Hebrew layouts welcome!







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Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham

On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:


Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:24:40 +0200
From: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com
To: Baruch Siach bar...@tkos.co.il
Cc: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il, linux-il. linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout


How about SI1452?

http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm


Thanks, Baruch, but those alt- characters don't match _any_ of the
layouts on my system! It seems to be closest to Biblical, but the RLM
and LRM characters do not work. I have these available keyboard
layouts:
Default
Basic
Lyx
Phonetic
Biblical


Hi Dotan,
Where do you see these keyboard layouts? What distro are you using?

 - yba


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Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Yuval Hager
On Thursday 05 March 2009, Baruch Siach wrote:
 Hi Yonatan,

 On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
  What is standard Hebrew keyboard layout (disregarding aleph-tav)?

 How about SI1452?

 http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm


Is there something similar for the Lyx variant?

--y

 baruch

  On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:
  Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:13:24 +0200
  From: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com
  To: linux-il. linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
  Subject: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
 
  Where is the RLM (right to left mark) on the standard Hebrew keyboard
  layout? I have googled and found that I can configure the Lyx layout
  and then the RTM character is at Ctrl-Y, but can I make it Ctrl-{ like
  in another popular OS?
 
  Also, where is a list of the Shift characters in Lyx? I have found
  some images that show where the nikud are, but none of them show the
  RTM and LTM marks, and I suspect that they may be otherwise incomplete
  as well. Thanks.
 
  Suggestions for other alternative Hebrew layouts welcome!



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Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Dov Grobgeld
Btw, the drawing of the keyboard does not show the following additional
mappings that I use (don't remember if they are part of the original
.xkbmap):

Hebrew shift Z: RLM
Hebrew shift X: LRM

(Mnemonic: RLM is in the left side as the writing direction is to the right.
LRM is on the right side as the writing direction is to the right.)

With that I can write:

 xxx שלום!‏ xxx
 אאא hello! אאא
C++‎ שפת מחשב
Cheers,
Dov

2009/3/5 Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il

 Hi Dov,
 I'd like to see a vote on this, or maybe just a discussion.
 Maybe there is a possibility of adopting this as a second standard.
 Anyone else have opinions about this?

  - yba


 On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Dov Grobgeld wrote:

  Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:23:37 +0200
 From: Dov Grobgeld dov.grobg...@gmail.com
 To: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il
 Cc: Baruch Siach bar...@tkos.co.il, linux-il. linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il

 Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

 After all these years SI1452 still amazes me. Who would want to replace
 the
 Shift Numeral keys with nikud? In order to write SHALOM! (assuming that
 capital characters are hebrew) you would then need to press [Language
 shift][Shift][1][Language Shift] to get the final exclamation mark. Does
 anyone know anyone who is actually doing this?

 That's why I suggested the alternative at

 http://imagic.weizmann.ac.il/~dov/Hebrew/pango-hebrew.htmlhttp://imagic.weizmann.ac.il/%7Edov/Hebrew/pango-hebrew.html

 The idea is that it makes more sense to press the [Language shift] key
 before typing latin characters than punctuation characters.

 Regards,
 Dov

 2009/3/5 Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il


 Guess that answers the question about RLM/LRM.

  - yba

 On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Baruch Siach wrote:

  Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:04:16 +0200

 From: Baruch Siach bar...@tkos.co.il
 To: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il
 Cc: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com, linux-il. 
 linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il


  Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

 Hi Yonatan,

 On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:

  What is standard Hebrew keyboard layout (disregarding aleph-tav)?


 How about SI1452?

 http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm

 baruch

  On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:


  Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:13:24 +0200

 From: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com
 To: linux-il. linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
 Subject: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

 Where is the RLM (right to left mark) on the standard Hebrew keyboard
 layout? I have googled and found that I can configure the Lyx layout
 and then the RTM character is at Ctrl-Y, but can I make it Ctrl-{ like
 in another popular OS?

 Also, where is a list of the Shift characters in Lyx? I have found
 some images that show where the nikud are, but none of them show the
 RTM and LTM marks, and I suspect that they may be otherwise incomplete
 as well. Thanks.

 Suggestions for other alternative Hebrew layouts welcome!




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Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
 After all these years SI1452 still amazes me. Who would want to replace the
 Shift Numeral keys with nikud? In order to write SHALOM! (assuming that
 capital characters are hebrew) you would then need to press [Language
 shift][Shift][1][Language Shift] to get the final exclamation mark. Does
 anyone know anyone who is actually doing this?


That does look ridiculous. On Windows the solution is to have the
Nikud on the Hebrew layout, Shift-lock enabled, shift- on each key.
Non-shift-locked shift on each key gives the symbols expected.

 That's why I suggested the alternative at

 http://imagic.weizmann.ac.il/~dov/Hebrew/pango-hebrew.html


Looks, nice, but where are the RLM and LRM characters?

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Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
 Thanks, Baruch, but those alt- characters don't match _any_ of the
 layouts on my system! It seems to be closest to Biblical, but the RLM
 and LRM characters do not work. I have these available keyboard
 layouts:
 Default
 Basic
 Lyx
 Phonetic
 Biblical

 Hi Dotan,
 Where do you see these keyboard layouts? What distro are you using?


Kubuntu 8.04, KDE 3.5.10. I see those layouts in Kcontrol.

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Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
2009/3/5 Yuval Hager yu...@avramzon.net:
 On Thursday 05 March 2009, Baruch Siach wrote:
 Hi Yonatan,

 On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
  What is standard Hebrew keyboard layout (disregarding aleph-tav)?

 How about SI1452?

 http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm


 Is there something similar for the Lyx variant?


If by something similar youmean a page that describes the character
placements, try this:
http://www.echoofeden.com/digest/slaveofone/2007/02/14/writing-hebrew-in-openoffice-under-linux/

It is missing some characters, though, notably RLM and LRM.

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Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Yuval Hager
On Thursday 05 March 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 2009/3/5 Yuval Hager yu...@avramzon.net:
  On Thursday 05 March 2009, Baruch Siach wrote:
  Hi Yonatan,
 
  On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
   What is standard Hebrew keyboard layout (disregarding aleph-tav)?
 
  How about SI1452?
 
  http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm
 
  Is there something similar for the Lyx variant?

 If by something similar youmean a page that describes the character
 placements, try this:
 http://www.echoofeden.com/digest/slaveofone/2007/02/14/writing-hebrew-in-op
enoffice-under-linux/


Yes, thanks. It is strange that the only page that clearly shows this visually 
is in English :)

I find the lyx variant to be most intuitive. As I don't have time to look for 
the documentation when I need to add diacritics, it makes much sense for פתח 
to be on פ, for קמץ to be on ק, for חיריק to be on ח, and so on. If I don't 
remember the exact position of something, I do not have to err much before I 
find the right one.

Compare that to the shift-number method...

 It is missing some characters, though, notably RLM and LRM.

Yup, these always confuse me.

It would be great if someone writes up a simple page, in Hebrew, that explains 
that and shows it visually (both RLM/LRM and diacritics). It will also help 
non-technical people who use Linux desktops (for me this means - my wife, my 
kids, and my sister. I guess every second subscriber on this list has a 
couple of those installations too).

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Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 12:11:07PM +0200, Yuval Hager wrote:
 I find the lyx variant to be most intuitive. As I don't have time to look for 
 the documentation when I need to add diacritics, it makes much sense for פתח 
 to be on פ, for קמץ to be on ק, for חיריק to be on ח, and so on. If I don't 
 remember the exact position of something, I do not have to err much before I 
 find the right one.

BTW, Sivan Toledo made something similar for Windows, in case you know
someone who is interested:
http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~stoledo/Tools/Keyboards/
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RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-04 Thread Dotan Cohen
Where is the RLM (right to left mark) on the standard Hebrew keyboard
layout? I have googled and found that I can configure the Lyx layout
and then the RTM character is at Ctrl-Y, but can I make it Ctrl-{ like
in another popular OS?

Also, where is a list of the Shift characters in Lyx? I have found
some images that show where the nikud are, but none of them show the
RTM and LTM marks, and I suspect that they may be otherwise incomplete
as well. Thanks.

Suggestions for other alternative Hebrew layouts welcome!

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Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-04 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham


What is standard Hebrew keyboard layout (disregarding aleph-tav)?

  - yba


On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:


Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:13:24 +0200
From: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com
To: linux-il. linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Subject: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

Where is the RLM (right to left mark) on the standard Hebrew keyboard
layout? I have googled and found that I can configure the Lyx layout
and then the RTM character is at Ctrl-Y, but can I make it Ctrl-{ like
in another popular OS?

Also, where is a list of the Shift characters in Lyx? I have found
some images that show where the nikud are, but none of them show the
RTM and LTM marks, and I suspect that they may be otherwise incomplete
as well. Thanks.

Suggestions for other alternative Hebrew layouts welcome!




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Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-04 Thread Baruch Siach
Hi Yonatan,

On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
 What is standard Hebrew keyboard layout (disregarding aleph-tav)?

How about SI1452?

http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm

baruch

 On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:

 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:13:24 +0200
 From: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com
 To: linux-il. linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
 Subject: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

 Where is the RLM (right to left mark) on the standard Hebrew keyboard
 layout? I have googled and found that I can configure the Lyx layout
 and then the RTM character is at Ctrl-Y, but can I make it Ctrl-{ like
 in another popular OS?

 Also, where is a list of the Shift characters in Lyx? I have found
 some images that show where the nikud are, but none of them show the
 RTM and LTM marks, and I suspect that they may be otherwise incomplete
 as well. Thanks.

 Suggestions for other alternative Hebrew layouts welcome!

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Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-04 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham


Guess that answers the question about RLM/LRM.

 - yba

On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Baruch Siach wrote:


Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:04:16 +0200
From: Baruch Siach bar...@tkos.co.il
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il
Cc: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com, linux-il. linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

Hi Yonatan,

On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:

What is standard Hebrew keyboard layout (disregarding aleph-tav)?


How about SI1452?

http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm

baruch


On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:


Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:13:24 +0200
From: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com
To: linux-il. linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Subject: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

Where is the RLM (right to left mark) on the standard Hebrew keyboard
layout? I have googled and found that I can configure the Lyx layout
and then the RTM character is at Ctrl-Y, but can I make it Ctrl-{ like
in another popular OS?

Also, where is a list of the Shift characters in Lyx? I have found
some images that show where the nikud are, but none of them show the
RTM and LTM marks, and I suspect that they may be otherwise incomplete
as well. Thanks.

Suggestions for other alternative Hebrew layouts welcome!





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