Re: Scanners

2007-03-19 Thread Daniel Feiglin
Thanks for the replies!

I just parted with the princely sum of NIS 312 for a Canon Lide 25. Oh,
well if it doesn't shape up, I can always put it on my wife's Windonkey.

There are a couple of other similar supported cheapies like these:
Genius 1200XE - NIS 243
Genius HR7 - NIS 389
Plustek 1200 - NIS 289

I suspect that the main differences are in quality of the electro
mechanical components and scanning speed.

Daniel Feiglin wrote:
 Hello folks!

 I am looking for a low end USB flatbed scanner = NIS 1000, mostly as a
 fax front end and for scanning documents. No fancy photography is
 required. An examination of the Sane site, http://www.sane-project.org/
 as well as a look at the SUSE scanner installation list, crossed with
 what seems to be available in Israel e.g. http://www.zap.co.il/ yields
 about two Epson models (1260, 390) with good or complete functionality.
 I find that hard to believe.

 The sort of unit I have in mind should have resolution 1200x2400 or
 better, 48 bit color and A4 size.

 I would appreciate any other leads, URL's to Israeli suppliers.

 Regards,

 Daniel
   
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Re: Scanners

2007-03-19 Thread Julian Daich
El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 09:22 +0200, Daniel Feiglin escribió:

 
 There are a couple of other similar supported cheapies like these:
 Genius 1200XE - NIS 243
 Genius HR7 - NIS 389
Be careful! There were a lot of concerns regarding Genius scanners at
the Ubuntu forums.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1227071#poststop
I remember to be asked to sign a petition to Genius regarding their
scanners a month or so ago.
Check out the SANE list before buying nothing! When the developers say¨
good¨ support usually it means not complete.
http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=geniusmodel=bus=anyv=p=
However the Genius HR7 seems to be well supported.

Julian

 Plustek 1200 - NIS 289
 
 I suspect that the main differences are in quality of the electro
 mechanical components and scanning speed.
 
 Daniel Feiglin wrote:
  Hello folks!
 
  I am looking for a low end USB flatbed scanner = NIS 1000, mostly as a
  fax front end and for scanning documents. No fancy photography is
  required. An examination of the Sane site, http://www.sane-project.org/
  as well as a look at the SUSE scanner installation list, crossed with
  what seems to be available in Israel e.g. http://www.zap.co.il/ yields
  about two Epson models (1260, 390) with good or complete functionality.
  I find that hard to believe.
 
  The sort of unit I have in mind should have resolution 1200x2400 or
  better, 48 bit color and A4 size.
 
  I would appreciate any other leads, URL's to Israeli suppliers.
 
  Regards,
 
  Daniel

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Re: Scanners

2007-03-19 Thread Peter


On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Daniel Feiglin wrote:

 I just parted with the princely sum of NIS 312 for a Canon Lide 25. Oh,
 well if it doesn't shape up, I can always put it on my wife's Windonkey.

 There are a couple of other similar supported cheapies like these:
 Genius 1200XE - NIS 243
 Genius HR7 - NIS 389
 Plustek 1200 - NIS 289

 I suspect that the main differences are in quality of the electro
 mechanical components and scanning speed.

More likely in the glue that holds the type label to the case imho. 
Notice that for the price of the Genius you can buy a HP all-in-one. 
(almost). Imho selling a no-name scanner for as much money as a name 
all-in-one is genius marketing. Thus the name is correct. I don't know 
about the rest. Also why aren't brand names like 'Dork' (vs. 'Genius') 
and 'Minustek' (vs 'Plustek') more popular. They certainly attract 
attention.

Peter

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Re: Scanners

2007-03-19 Thread Amos Shapira

On 19/03/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


about the rest. Also why aren't brand names like 'Dork' (vs. 'Genius')
and 'Minustek' (vs 'Plustek') more popular. They certainly attract
attention.



Who said they aren't?
What about Bug for a place to buy software or a defunct virus computer
shop network?

--Amos


Re: Scanners

2007-03-19 Thread Daniel Feiglin
I did two checks:

I checked the Sane site for each item. I only paid attention to scanners
with good or complete support, of which there were many. My problem
was, which of them (within my nominated price/performance range) are
available locally and from where. (Not many!)

Your remark about the Genius problem was interesting, since the Sane
list neither indicated difficulties, nor did it have a link to
somewhere else for the models in question.

As I pointed out earlier, I'm taking a punt on a Canon Lide 25 at NIS
312 (a tank of petrol?) which won't send me into bankruptcy.

Julian Daich wrote:
 El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 09:22 +0200, Daniel Feiglin escribió:

   
 There are a couple of other similar supported cheapies like these:
 Genius 1200XE - NIS 243
 Genius HR7 - NIS 389
 
 Be careful! There were a lot of concerns regarding Genius scanners at
 the Ubuntu forums.
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1227071#poststop
 I remember to be asked to sign a petition to Genius regarding their
 scanners a month or so ago.
 Check out the SANE list before buying nothing! When the developers say¨
 good¨ support usually it means not complete.
 http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=geniusmodel=bus=anyv=p=
 However the Genius HR7 seems to be well supported.

 Julian

   
 Plustek 1200 - NIS 289

 I suspect that the main differences are in quality of the electro
 mechanical components and scanning speed.

 Daniel Feiglin wrote:
 
 Hello folks!

 I am looking for a low end USB flatbed scanner = NIS 1000, mostly as a
 fax front end and for scanning documents. No fancy photography is
 required. An examination of the Sane site, http://www.sane-project.org/
 as well as a look at the SUSE scanner installation list, crossed with
 what seems to be available in Israel e.g. http://www.zap.co.il/ yields
 about two Epson models (1260, 390) with good or complete functionality.
 I find that hard to believe.

 The sort of unit I have in mind should have resolution 1200x2400 or
 better, 48 bit color and A4 size.

 I would appreciate any other leads, URL's to Israeli suppliers.

 Regards,

 Daniel
   
   
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Re: Scanners

2007-03-19 Thread Peter


On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Amos Shapira wrote:


On 19/03/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


about the rest. Also why aren't brand names like 'Dork' (vs. 'Genius')
and 'Minustek' (vs 'Plustek') more popular. They certainly attract
attention.


Who said they aren't? What about Bug for a place to buy software or 
a defunct virus computer shop network?


You are right ... but both are (were) Israeli companies. The local sense 
of humour (and 'wholesomeness') is ... different from the norm 
elsewhere.


Peter

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Re: Scanners

2007-03-18 Thread Peter


Imho, buy an all-in-one machine from HP etc. It all works great under 
Linux with cups hpijs and sane. The price is about $100. You get 
everything in one box (even a copier). Mine is a HP-1315 and I paid even 
less than $100 at Office Depot at the time (with rebate + it was a 
gift but that's beyond the point).


Peter

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Re: Scanners

2007-03-18 Thread Oded Arbel
On Sun, 2007-03-18 at 14:12 +0200, Daniel Feiglin wrote:
 Hello folks!
 
 I am looking for a low end USB flatbed scanner = NIS 1000, mostly as a
 fax front end and for scanning documents. No fancy photography is
 required.

 The sort of unit I have in mind should have resolution 1200x2400 or
 better, 48 bit color and A4 size.
 
 I would appreciate any other leads, URL's to Israeli suppliers.

From my experience, any simple USB scanner would do. I'm using a cheap
Cannon LiD device (U1200 or something) which I bought for about 400 NIS
a few years back - it should be about 300 NIS now, and I'm very happy
with it.

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have no value except that which is placed upon them.
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Re: Scanners

2007-03-18 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sunday 18 March 2007, Daniel Feiglin wrote:
 Hello folks!

 I am looking for a low end USB flatbed scanner = NIS 1000, mostly as a
 fax front end and for scanning documents. No fancy photography is
 required. An examination of the Sane site, http://www.sane-project.org/
 as well as a look at the SUSE scanner installation list, crossed with
 what seems to be available in Israel e.g. http://www.zap.co.il/ yields
 about two Epson models (1260, 390) with good or complete functionality.
 I find that hard to believe.

 The sort of unit I have in mind should have resolution 1200x2400 or
 better, 48 bit color and A4 size.

I have a Canon CanoScan Lide 20 which has been working very well with my 
Mandriva system and XSane. CanoScan Lide 25 which is probably a similar model 
is available from http://www.plonter.com/ for 319 NIS and has a SANE driver.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish


 I would appreciate any other leads, URL's to Israeli suppliers.

 Regards,

 Daniel



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Re: Scanners

2007-03-18 Thread Shlomo Solomon
I've been using a Mustek 1200 UB for several years with no problems. 
Resolution is less than you specify (I think 600X1200), but for faxing and 
document scanning, it's more than enough. Even for OCR, I don't use the 
highest resolution.

It sells for about 250 Shekels.

NOTE that there is a similar model (Mustek 1200 UB Plus) that is also supposed 
to be supported by Linux (I haven't tried it), but I understand it's NOT as 
good (despite what looks like an improved version - plus). I do know that 
the plus version uses a different chip set, so it is a different beast.


On Sunday 18 March 2007 20:26, Shlomi Fish wrote:
 On Sunday 18 March 2007, Daniel Feiglin wrote:
  Hello folks!
 
  I am looking for a low end USB flatbed scanner = NIS 1000, mostly as a
  fax front end and for scanning documents. No fancy photography is
  required. An examination of the Sane site, http://www.sane-project.org/
  as well as a look at the SUSE scanner installation list, crossed with
  what seems to be available in Israel e.g. http://www.zap.co.il/ yields
  about two Epson models (1260, 390) with good or complete functionality.
  I find that hard to believe.
 
  The sort of unit I have in mind should have resolution 1200x2400 or
  better, 48 bit color and A4 size.

 I have a Canon CanoScan Lide 20 which has been working very well with my
 Mandriva system and XSane. CanoScan Lide 25 which is probably a similar
 model is available from http://www.plonter.com/ for 319 NIS and has a SANE
 driver.

 Regards,

   Shlomi Fish

  I would appreciate any other leads, URL's to Israeli suppliers.
 
  Regards,
 
  Daniel

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Re: Scanners

2007-03-18 Thread Dotan Cohen

On 18/03/07, Daniel Feiglin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello folks!

I am looking for a low end USB flatbed scanner = NIS 1000, mostly as a
fax front end and for scanning documents. No fancy photography is
required. An examination of the Sane site, http://www.sane-project.org/
as well as a look at the SUSE scanner installation list, crossed with
what seems to be available in Israel e.g. http://www.zap.co.il/ yields
about two Epson models (1260, 390) with good or complete functionality.
I find that hard to believe.

The sort of unit I have in mind should have resolution 1200x2400 or
better, 48 bit color and A4 size.

I would appreciate any other leads, URL's to Israeli suppliers.

Regards,

Daniel



I see that somwone else recommended an HP all in one. We have an HP
42555 all in one that we bought from p1000 for about 800 NIS. THe
p1000 site doesn't work so well with Firefox, so I can't really
recommend the site, but the printer is great, the fax is great, and
the scanner is great. The printer and scanner work fine on FC6 and
Kubuntu, even better than they did under XP. With XP, installing the
drivers properly is a pain and it installs a ton of crap. Under KDE it
just works.

Dotan Cohen

http://lyricslist.com/
http://what-is-what.com/

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