Re: postil.com not working in FF or Konqueror
2008/8/18 Arie Skliarouk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you would tell us what specific features did not work for you then I will: Start with טופס הצטרפות on https://bank.postil.com/BMeida.html Sorry for the delay, I am in the middle of exams and I could not take care of this. I would have no problem testing the tofes htzarfut however I have no account with the postal bank to sign up with. Are you in Haifa? If you can get to the Technion then I would like to sit with you, try to sign up with the form, and then write a long, detailed letter to Postil. In fact, I just wrote one today to Clalit complete with screenshots. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: postil.com not working in FF or Konqueror
I see now, the submit button does not work in Firefox. I wrote to them this: אני צריך להירשם לשירות המקוון של postil אבל הטופס הצטרפות אינו עובד. אני לוחץ על כפתור שלח ושוב דבר לא קורה. נא לתקן את האתר ולהודיע לי כשהעיניין מתופל. בתודה מראש. However, I got this message upon submitting the form: Error- This page can't be displayed due to a security violation or typing not allowed characters.Contact support for additional information 02-6290370 Did my message get received? Did it go to /dev/null? So I called the number and the man asked Which internet do you have? The site does not work with Firefox. before I even told him what browser. These were his exact, confidence-inspiring words: איזה אינטרנט יש לך? Some technician! As I am calling at 18:45 he suggested that I call back in the morning to speak to a senior tech. I will. Another bit of stupidity: I put my phone number in as 054-7881700 and I got a JavaScript popup complaining about nonnumerical characters in the phone field. What an idiot programmer: phone fields should accept [0-9():space:\-\.] because those are the common deliminators used. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: postil.com not working in FF or Konqueror
2008/8/14 Noam Rathaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, The Israeli Post web site used to work with FF and Konqueror, but now it doesn't anyone knows how you can reach them and complain? No fire broke out when I went to the postil.com website and began navigating. It works fine for me in Firefox 3 on Kubuntu 8.04. If you would tell us what specific features did not work for you then I will: 1) Try them and confirm 2) Write both email and snail mail to the post office complaining 3) Call the post office and complain 4) Go into the Technion branch of the post office and complain. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: postil.com not working in FF or Konqueror
Apparently they fixed it. On Sunday 17 August 2008 12:41:03 Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/8/14 Noam Rathaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, The Israeli Post web site used to work with FF and Konqueror, but now it doesn't anyone knows how you can reach them and complain? No fire broke out when I went to the postil.com website and began navigating. It works fine for me in Firefox 3 on Kubuntu 8.04. If you would tell us what specific features did not work for you then I will: 1) Try them and confirm 2) Write both email and snail mail to the post office complaining 3) Call the post office and complain 4) Go into the Technion branch of the post office and complain. -- Noam Rathaus CTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.beyondsecurity.com Know that you are safe. Beyond Security Finalist for the Red Herring 100 Global Awards 2007 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postil.com not working in FF or Konqueror
2008/8/17 Noam Rathaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Apparently they fixed it. Excellent, thanks. I did notice that there is a very brief redirect when first visiting the postil.com website, so fast that I did not have time to read the text on the screen. Maybe that is related? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: postil.com not working in FF or Konqueror
Quoting Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/8/14 Noam Rathaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, The Israeli Post web site used to work with FF and Konqueror, but now it doesn't anyone knows how you can reach them and complain? No fire broke out when I went to the postil.com website and began navigating. It works fine for me in Firefox 3 on Kubuntu 8.04. From what I remember, the problematic features are: 1. Trying to find out how much it costs to send a letter abroad using their price calculator (it never gets to the abroad part). 2. Problems in the branch locator (finding out opening hours of branches) 3. Feedback form. And I did manage to find a browser where the feedback form works (I got the automated reply) but they never actually got around to fixing the problems I mentioned (which are not just compatibility issues. They have content issues as well). Herouth = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postil.com not working in FF or Konqueror
No its not related, the error I got was not related to some specific page, but a generic XML error (caused by their server returning malformed data). (i.e. I am not saying Herouth's issues have been solved, I cannot confirm nor deny it) On Sunday 17 August 2008 14:02:53 Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/8/17 Noam Rathaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Apparently they fixed it. Excellent, thanks. I did notice that there is a very brief redirect when first visiting the postil.com website, so fast that I did not have time to read the text on the screen. Maybe that is related? -- Noam Rathaus CTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.beyondsecurity.com Know that you are safe. Beyond Security Finalist for the Red Herring 100 Global Awards 2007 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postil.com not working in FF or Konqueror
2008/8/17 Herouth Maoz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From what I remember, the problematic features are: 3. Feedback form. The PHB obviously is convinced that if there are no complaints, then there are no problems! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: postil.com not working in FF or Konqueror
2008/8/15 Ori Idan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When you call them for support regarding something you could have done with the web site IF it would have been built with standards in mind, please state it to the service person that you wanted to do it with the website but could not and thus calling him/her. Shachar is right they might not have any system to correlate so we must state it clearly that we could have done it with the website but it does not function. Or even more so - the narrow-mindedness of the person you talk to would easily lead him to understand that he might lose his job if the web site starts working properly. (I'm not kidding - back when there was just a plan to introduce a computerized system to the HUJI CS library (I'm talking about late-80's/early 90's) the librarians put up a strike for fear of losing their jobs). Good luck. --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postil.com not working in FF or Konqueror
When you call them for support regarding something you could have done with the web site IF it would have been built with standards in mind, please state it to the service person that you wanted to do it with the website but could not and thus calling him/her. Shachar is right they might not have any system to correlate so we must state it clearly that we could have done it with the website but it does not function. -- Ori Idan On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Amos Shapira wrote: 2008/8/14 Yuval Hager [EMAIL PROTECTED]: to *make them think* something is wrong with their site. Interesting idea - you assume they have the required apparatus to do that... While I'm sure Amos meant that as a joke, the reality behind the joke is that he may have a point. It is entirely possible, even likely, that they (i.e. - the postal company as a whole) have no system in place to correlate calls to support with problems in the site. Shachar = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ספרים וסיפורים שכתבתי: http://www.thestories.org
Re: postil.com not working in FF or Konqueror
Ori Idan wrote: When you call them for support regarding something you could have done with the web site IF it would have been built with standards in mind, please state it to the service person that you wanted to do it with the website but could not and thus calling him/her. Shachar is right they might not have any system to correlate so we must state it clearly that we could have done it with the website but it does not function. What I'm saying is that even if we do it explicitly, they may STILL not have any way of correlating. The flow of information inside the company is greatly dependent on the systems in place. Shachar = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
postil.com not working in FF or Konqueror
Hi, The Israeli Post web site used to work with FF and Konqueror, but now it doesn't anyone knows how you can reach them and complain? Their מוקד is clueless Of course under IE it works. This is the error you get: XML Parsing Error: not well-formed Location: http://www.israelpost.co.il/hpcontent.nsf/EntryHP.xsl?ReadFormL=HE Line Number 37, Column 101:input name=http_referer value=http://www.israelpost.co.il/hpcontent.nsf/EntryHomePage?ReadFormL=HE; type=hidden / ^ -- Noam Rathaus CTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.beyondsecurity.com Know that you are safe. Beyond Security Finalist for the Red Herring 100 Global Awards 2007 To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postil.com not working in FF or Konqueror
On Thursday 14 August 2008, Noam Rathaus wrote: Hi, The Israeli Post web site used to work with FF and Konqueror, but now it doesn't anyone knows how you can reach them and complain? Their מוקד is clueless Of course under IE it works. What do you need from this site? Just call them and ask the info from their human response team. Flooding the support team with (justified) calls to get information that exists on the site is the only effective way I can think of to make them think something is wrong with their site. --y signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: postil.com not working in FF or Konqueror
2008/8/14 Yuval Hager [EMAIL PROTECTED]: to *make them think* something is wrong with their site. Interesting idea - you assume they have the required apparatus to do that... Cheers, --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postil.com not working in FF or Konqueror
Amos Shapira wrote: 2008/8/14 Yuval Hager [EMAIL PROTECTED]: to *make them think* something is wrong with their site. Interesting idea - you assume they have the required apparatus to do that... While I'm sure Amos meant that as a joke, the reality behind the joke is that he may have a point. It is entirely possible, even likely, that they (i.e. - the postal company as a whole) have no system in place to correlate calls to support with problems in the site. Shachar = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
