Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
Bill Davidsen wrote: The answer was responsive to the question, a couple of links to software which might serve. I would think your going off about it was further off-topic, it certainly didn't help the O.P. any. When someone ends a question with please help I would assume that any answer would be better than we're working on it. Answering an on-topic question with a short list of links is hardly spamming or even advertising, it's called being polite and helpful. I would rather run commercial software on Linux that open source on Windows, thanks, if those are the choices. After several months of looking I have yet to find any video app that a typical office worker can use. Something no more complex than xawtv, which has been running fine on FC4 and FC6 for these folks. I would certainly consider a commercial solution rather than have them go back to the dark side of the force and Windows-7. i've followed the advice of marcus in the past and that is why for over a year i had a completely useless piece of hardware in the end the real developers here sorted the problem out this list is for people who run or want to run the drivers at linuxtv.org so no, i don't think i was off-topic he constantly spams the list here with his closed source commercial solution just about my only job on this list is to counter his bull with kind regards -- simon -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Ali Abdallah al...@xfce.org wrote: Screenshots here for TV and S-Video input configuration with TV time. http://ali.blogsite.org/files/tvtime/ Could you try the S-Video or composite input and see if the picture quality is still bad (as this well help isolate whether it's a problem with the tuner chip or the decoder. Same picture quality with S-Video, but with composite there is no picture. Ok, this helps alot. This rules out the tuner and suggests that perhaps the video decoder is not being programmed properly. Could you please send me the output of dmesg? I'll see about setting up a tree with some additional debugging for you to try out. Follow up, i manager to get the hvr 900 instead the 900H, and i got the same result with the analog signal, i tried with my friend's windows system, same result, no analog channels detected, however i got all the channels a hvr pci card, so i expect these USB keys needs really a very strong signal, so there is no problem in the driver, sorry for the noise, hopefully the 900H will get a driver soon. Thanks, Devin Thanks, Ali. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Simon Kenyon si...@koala.ie wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: The answer was responsive to the question, a couple of links to software which might serve. I would think your going off about it was further off-topic, it certainly didn't help the O.P. any. When someone ends a question with please help I would assume that any answer would be better than we're working on it. Answering an on-topic question with a short list of links is hardly spamming or even advertising, it's called being polite and helpful. I would rather run commercial software on Linux that open source on Windows, thanks, if those are the choices. After several months of looking I have yet to find any video app that a typical office worker can use. Something no more complex than xawtv, which has been running fine on FC4 and FC6 for these folks. I would certainly consider a commercial solution rather than have them go back to the dark side of the force and Windows-7. i've followed the advice of marcus in the past and that is why for over a year i had a completely useless piece of hardware in the end the real developers here sorted the problem out this list is for people who run or want to run the drivers at linuxtv.org so no, i don't think i was off-topic he constantly spams the list here with his closed source commercial solution just about my only job on this list is to counter his bull I have followed this one too for a longer time too. In general it seems like that people were just fighting the existing and working solution from Marcus. I'm actually glad that someone is standing up and trying to make everything easier now. It would be more helpful if you could add some helpful information how to get the devices work, rather than complaining about someone (especially on personal level as it seems) who supposingly brought up a competitive solution. The only issue I see is that this announced work is not opensource, but I'd also rather leave that one open to the enduser instead of generally fighting against it.. Some people here have an aggressiv potential it seems. just my 2 cents, James -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: have it implemented). This is the case of xc3028, so you'll need to turn off signal detection while tuning, and be sure that you're loading the proper frequency table used on your Country. It should be noticed that several tuner drivers don't have signal detection (or not This is what i'm doing actually, i have signal detection disabled in tvtime+of course the proper frequency for my country, but still i get channels with very bad pictures (not watchable) with my USB sticks, but i get all the channels with a very good pictures with my PCI card (with signal detection enabled), and using the same analog cable+same setup+same kernel version. Cheers, Mauro Cheers, Ali. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
James Peters wrote: I have followed this one too for a longer time too. In general it seems like that people were just fighting the existing and working solution from Marcus. I'm actually glad that someone is standing up and trying to make everything easier now. It would be more helpful if you could add some helpful information how to get the devices work, rather than complaining about someone (especially on personal level as it seems) who supposingly brought up a competitive solution. The only issue I see is that this announced work is not opensource, but I'd also rather leave that one open to the enduser instead of generally fighting against it.. Some people here have an aggressiv potential it seems. the OP wants analog to work on this device developers (certainly in the USA) have no incentive to work on that as they have gone digital i personally cannot help with that device as for Marcus's stuff not being open source - well then what has it got to do with this mailing list? anyway, it used to be open source - but he went off in a sulk because people would not do things the one true way as he saw it perhaps if you were to reread some of the old email threads you would realise that you have not quite grasped the whole situation -- simon -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Simon Kenyon si...@koala.ie wrote: James Peters wrote: I have followed this one too for a longer time too. In general it seems like that people were just fighting the existing and working solution from Marcus. I'm actually glad that someone is standing up and trying to make everything easier now. It would be more helpful if you could add some helpful information how to get the devices work, rather than complaining about someone (especially on personal level as it seems) who supposingly brought up a competitive solution. The only issue I see is that this announced work is not opensource, but I'd also rather leave that one open to the enduser instead of generally fighting against it.. Some people here have an aggressiv potential it seems. the OP wants analog to work on this device developers (certainly in the USA) have no incentive to work on that as they have gone digital i personally cannot help with that device as for Marcus's stuff not being open source - well then what has it got to do with this mailing list? anyway, it used to be open source - but he went off in a sulk because people would not do things the one true way as he saw it perhaps if you were to reread some of the old email threads you would realise that you have not quite grasped the whole situation That's your opinion, I do appreciate every mail which is about linux and TV here commercial and non commercial. I'm not interested in reading about flamewars or personal attacks. James -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
Simon Kenyon wrote: James Peters wrote: I have followed this one too for a longer time too. In general it seems like that people were just fighting the existing and working solution from Marcus. I'm actually glad that someone is standing up and trying to make everything easier now. It would be more helpful if you could add some helpful information how to get the devices work, rather than complaining about someone (especially on personal level as it seems) who supposingly brought up a competitive solution. The only issue I see is that this announced work is not opensource, but I'd also rather leave that one open to the enduser instead of generally fighting against it.. Some people here have an aggressiv potential it seems. the OP wants analog to work on this device developers (certainly in the USA) have no incentive to work on that as they have gone digital i personally cannot help with that device The problem lies in the easy to use applications and UI being married to analog. The Linux digital applications are build it yourself like ham radio, while the Windows applications are like CB, plug and works. I have been trying for months to find any solution for a group of office workers who are trying to move off Fedora FC4 and FC6 (tvtime and mostly xawtv) and old Windows to new desktop, preferably FC11. I support their Linux servers, I am helping find a desktop solution because I believe in Linux (ie. I'm donating my time and the price of cards I bought for testing). Their install support guy will plug cards in the box, or USB adaptors, and install an RPM. He won't install a bunch of RPMs, configure a database, and play dba to get mythtv working. The users understand selecting transport like digital-cable-us, analog-braodcast-us, S-video, and channels. They are not going to look up frequencies, build channel tables, of type transponder frequencies in kHz into vlc and similar. So if I could find a commercial solution for them, which they could install and run with minimal problem, I'd be happy. I like open source, I have supported open source back to stuff I wrote on MULTICS, but sometimes working now solutions are needed, not help with development. And putting a bunch of partial solutions together is fine for Lego or Erector sets, not so much for office working wanting to install and use an intuitive solution. as for Marcus's stuff not being open source - well then what has it got to do with this mailing list? anyway, it used to be open source - but he went off in a sulk because people would not do things the one true way as he saw it Is this list to promote video on Linux, or just some particular implementation of it? Is there a better list, where all competing hardware and software can be discussed as solutions without people getting flamed? I don't want to offend by talking about the wrong hardware brand, or software which can be used by a ten year old, but those are the kinds of QA I thought I'd find here. perhaps if you were to reread some of the old email threads you would realise that you have not quite grasped the whole situation -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com Unintended results are the well-earned reward for incompetence. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:24:57 +0200 Markus Rechberger mrechber...@gmail.com escreveu: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Simon Kenyon si...@koala.ie wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: Available from 20th Oct on so in 11 days. There are not many competitive devices (none) available for linux which deliver such support. On the other side it's not kernel based either, it's entirely in userspace. It's also entirely supported by all participating companies. this is a mailing list for the open source dvb drivers you are talking about a closed source solution what does your solution have to do with linuxtv.org? I see linux-media, you can find the sources of a patched tvtime version on the website. It shows an alternative way how to integrate usb chipsolutions in linux. Aside of that the official DVB(3/5)/V4L(1/2) API has been reviewed through our work and bugreports have been submitted to various places (linux media, some linux distributions). It integrates flawlessly and helps to improve the overall media support with linux. The posting was pointing out to Ali's email that he was looking for a working analog TV solution for France. He has bought this Pinnacle device 3 years ago, the vendor does not care about support for it. We provide solutions which work within a few seconds, nevermind what distribution. Your business is so bad that you can't even pay to an adds on some magazine, for you to spam the open source mailing lists as a desperate trial to sell a single unit of your product? Please stop spamming. The answer was responsive to the question, a couple of links to software which might serve. I would think your going off about it was further off-topic, it certainly didn't help the O.P. any. When someone ends a question with please help I would assume that any answer would be better than we're working on it. Answering an on-topic question with a short list of links is hardly spamming or even advertising, it's called being polite and helpful. I would rather run commercial software on Linux that open source on Windows, thanks, if those are the choices. After several months of looking I have yet to find any video app that a typical office worker can use. Something no more complex than xawtv, which has been running fine on FC4 and FC6 for these folks. I would certainly consider a commercial solution rather than have them go back to the dark side of the force and Windows-7. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com Unintended results are the well-earned reward for incompetence. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
Em Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:24:57 +0200 Markus Rechberger mrechber...@gmail.com escreveu: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Simon Kenyon si...@koala.ie wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: Available from 20th Oct on so in 11 days. There are not many competitive devices (none) available for linux which deliver such support. On the other side it's not kernel based either, it's entirely in userspace. It's also entirely supported by all participating companies. this is a mailing list for the open source dvb drivers you are talking about a closed source solution what does your solution have to do with linuxtv.org? I see linux-media, you can find the sources of a patched tvtime version on the website. It shows an alternative way how to integrate usb chipsolutions in linux. Aside of that the official DVB(3/5)/V4L(1/2) API has been reviewed through our work and bugreports have been submitted to various places (linux media, some linux distributions). It integrates flawlessly and helps to improve the overall media support with linux. The posting was pointing out to Ali's email that he was looking for a working analog TV solution for France. He has bought this Pinnacle device 3 years ago, the vendor does not care about support for it. We provide solutions which work within a few seconds, nevermind what distribution. Your business is so bad that you can't even pay to an adds on some magazine, for you to spam the open source mailing lists as a desperate trial to sell a single unit of your product? Please stop spamming. Although this was my last mail addressing your questions. Best Regards, Markus Rechberger -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Cheers, Mauro -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: Em Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:24:57 +0200 Markus Rechberger mrechber...@gmail.com escreveu: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Simon Kenyon si...@koala.ie wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: Available from 20th Oct on so in 11 days. There are not many competitive devices (none) available for linux which deliver such support. On the other side it's not kernel based either, it's entirely in userspace. It's also entirely supported by all participating companies. this is a mailing list for the open source dvb drivers you are talking about a closed source solution what does your solution have to do with linuxtv.org? I see linux-media, you can find the sources of a patched tvtime version on the website. It shows an alternative way how to integrate usb chipsolutions in linux. Aside of that the official DVB(3/5)/V4L(1/2) API has been reviewed through our work and bugreports have been submitted to various places (linux media, some linux distributions). It integrates flawlessly and helps to improve the overall media support with linux. The posting was pointing out to Ali's email that he was looking for a working analog TV solution for France. He has bought this Pinnacle device 3 years ago, the vendor does not care about support for it. We provide solutions which work within a few seconds, nevermind what distribution. Your business is so bad that you can't even pay to an adds on some magazine, for you to spam the open source mailing lists as a desperate trial to sell a single unit of your product? As an information for you it's going very well. Just because you don't have any influence anymore in blocking our work as you had done in the past it's better for you to remain silent in the background. Best Regards, Markus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
Em Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:05:12 +0200 Markus Rechberger mrechber...@gmail.com escreveu: On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: Em Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:24:57 +0200 Markus Rechberger mrechber...@gmail.com escreveu: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Simon Kenyon si...@koala.ie wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: Available from 20th Oct on so in 11 days. There are not many competitive devices (none) available for linux which deliver such support. On the other side it's not kernel based either, it's entirely in userspace. It's also entirely supported by all participating companies. this is a mailing list for the open source dvb drivers you are talking about a closed source solution what does your solution have to do with linuxtv.org? I see linux-media, you can find the sources of a patched tvtime version on the website. It shows an alternative way how to integrate usb chipsolutions in linux. Aside of that the official DVB(3/5)/V4L(1/2) API has been reviewed through our work and bugreports have been submitted to various places (linux media, some linux distributions). It integrates flawlessly and helps to improve the overall media support with linux. The posting was pointing out to Ali's email that he was looking for a working analog TV solution for France. He has bought this Pinnacle device 3 years ago, the vendor does not care about support for it. We provide solutions which work within a few seconds, nevermind what distribution. Your business is so bad that you can't even pay to an adds on some magazine, for you to spam the open source mailing lists as a desperate trial to sell a single unit of your product? As an information for you it's going very well. Just because you don't have any influence anymore in blocking our work as you had done in the past it's better for you to remain silent in the background. If it were that good, you wouldn't be trying to abuse this ML. Cheers, Mauro -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
Am Samstag, den 10.10.2009, 14:05 +0200 schrieb Markus Rechberger: On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: Em Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:24:57 +0200 Markus Rechberger mrechber...@gmail.com escreveu: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Simon Kenyon si...@koala.ie wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: Available from 20th Oct on so in 11 days. There are not many competitive devices (none) available for linux which deliver such support. On the other side it's not kernel based either, it's entirely in userspace. It's also entirely supported by all participating companies. this is a mailing list for the open source dvb drivers you are talking about a closed source solution what does your solution have to do with linuxtv.org? I see linux-media, you can find the sources of a patched tvtime version on the website. It shows an alternative way how to integrate usb chipsolutions in linux. Aside of that the official DVB(3/5)/V4L(1/2) API has been reviewed through our work and bugreports have been submitted to various places (linux media, some linux distributions). It integrates flawlessly and helps to improve the overall media support with linux. The posting was pointing out to Ali's email that he was looking for a working analog TV solution for France. He has bought this Pinnacle device 3 years ago, the vendor does not care about support for it. We provide solutions which work within a few seconds, nevermind what distribution. Your business is so bad that you can't even pay to an adds on some magazine, for you to spam the open source mailing lists as a desperate trial to sell a single unit of your product? As an information for you it's going very well. Just because you don't have any influence anymore in blocking our work as you had done in the past it's better for you to remain silent in the background. What a plain nonsense. Mauro did never block any of your work. You have been blocked by the dvb maintainers, and Mauro was excluded from them and had no authorization to deal with your patches concerning dvb. You have been pointed to deal with the few remaining dvb issues with Oliver, he was backed by Johannes and there was no more noise from Manu or Mike. Instead you preferred, and I told you not to do it, to put an ultimatum on Mauro, to pull in, IIRC, all your 79 patches over the weekend or you would do something cruel. Getting it sick, Hermann Best Regards, Markus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Ali Abdallah al...@xfce.org wrote: I have the card since alsmost 3 years, it never worked, but now i'm in urgent need of getting an analog usb stick to work with Linux. The PCTV hybrid: Bus 001 Device 004: ID eb1a:2881 eMPIA Technology, Inc. Thanks for you support, but i need an analog usb stick, well hopefully the wintv 900H will get supported soon. Well, I added support for that device last month, so I would suggest you install the latest v4l-dvb code from http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb. Directions can be found here: http://linuxtv.org/repo Okay, i installed the latest drivers+the firmware of the device using extract_xc3028.pl, the device seems to be detected now, i can detect all the analog TV of my cable using tvtime, but manually, i mean i had to disable signal detection when scanning, otherwise i got no results, since the picture quality is terrible. Of course i'm sure that all the connections (cable to antenna, cable to the usb stick, ...) are correct, since it works with my old PC equipped with a PCI TV card. Any advice, what could be the problem? firmware? since you said (you added support for this device) should i open a bug report? is this device reported as working by other users? Please help if possible, almost two weeks with no real success. Cheers, Devin Cheers, Ali. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
Markus Rechberger wrote: Aside of that we also fully support Linux http://support.sundtek.de/index.php/topic,4.0.html http://support.sundtek.de/index.php/topic,7.0.html We also use to report bugs to Distributors in order to improve general Multimedia Support. Customers also get dedicated support as far as needed in order to get everything work properly (if needed). Best Regards, Markus binary driver for very expensive and unavailable hardware -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Simon Kenyon si...@koala.ie wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: Aside of that we also fully support Linux http://support.sundtek.de/index.php/topic,4.0.html http://support.sundtek.de/index.php/topic,7.0.html We also use to report bugs to Distributors in order to improve general Multimedia Support. Customers also get dedicated support as far as needed in order to get everything work properly (if needed). Best Regards, Markus binary driver for very expensive and unavailable hardware Available from 20th Oct on so in 11 days. There are not many competitive devices (none) available for linux which deliver such support. On the other side it's not kernel based either, it's entirely in userspace. It's also entirely supported by all participating companies. The driver is using the same components as the Windows driver. There's no way to crash the kernel with that driver, and it works from 2.6.15 kernelseries on without having to fiddle around. In any case it's up to the customer if he wants an easy installation or a complicated one, similar devices for Mac are available at a higher price. Even though when drivers are officially in the kernel still not all distributions are shipping all the kernel drivers especially the firmware isn't shipped with most distributions either. We do have customers who are not comfortable with having to compile kernelmodules and just want to have it work. Another positive side effect every system can use the same driver, updates are easily possible for everyone (unlike kernel drivers for such devices which have to be recompiled for every system). The installation of it usually takes below 10 seconds on any system we tested (Ubuntu, Redhat, Suse, Sidux, Gentoo, Acer One Netbook, Arch Linux) Best Regards, Markus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:34 AM, Ali Abdallah al...@xfce.org wrote: Okay, i installed the latest drivers+the firmware of the device using extract_xc3028.pl, the device seems to be detected now, i can detect all the analog TV of my cable using tvtime, but manually, i mean i had to disable signal detection when scanning, otherwise i got no results, since the picture quality is terrible. Of course i'm sure that all the connections (cable to antenna, cable to the usb stick, ...) are correct, since it works with my old PC equipped with a PCI TV card. Any advice, what could be the problem? firmware? since you said (you added support for this device) should i open a bug report? is this device reported as working by other users? Please help if possible, almost two weeks with no real success. Could you please provide a screen shot of the tvtime output? Also, are you trying to capture over-the-air or are you capturing cable television? What analog standard are you using? PAL-BG? Did you make sure to tell tvtime which analog standard you are using? Could you try the S-Video or composite input and see if the picture quality is still bad (as this well help isolate whether it's a problem with the tuner chip or the decoder. Devin -- Devin J. Heitmueller - Kernel Labs http://www.kernellabs.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:34 AM, Ali Abdallah al...@xfce.org wrote: Okay, i installed the latest drivers+the firmware of the device using extract_xc3028.pl, the device seems to be detected now, i can detect all the analog TV of my cable using tvtime, but manually, i mean i had to disable signal detection when scanning, otherwise i got no results, since the picture quality is terrible. Of course i'm sure that all the connections (cable to antenna, cable to the usb stick, ...) are correct, since it works with my old PC equipped with a PCI TV card. Any advice, what could be the problem? firmware? since you said (you added support for this device) should i open a bug report? is this device reported as working by other users? Please help if possible, almost two weeks with no real success. Could you please provide a screen shot of the tvtime output? I will provide you a screenshot when i go back home this evening. Also, are you trying to capture over-the-air or are you capturing cable television? It is a cable but at the end it is connected to main antenna of the building. What analog standard are you using? PAL-BG? SECAM. Did you make sure to tell tvtime which analog standard you are using? Yes i'm sure, settings are SECAM, area France. Could you try the S-Video or composite input and see if the picture quality is still bad (as this well help isolate whether it's a problem with the tuner chip or the decoder. I will also try these at reply this evening. Devin Cheers, Ali. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:34 AM, Ali Abdallah al...@xfce.org wrote: Okay, i installed the latest drivers+the firmware of the device using extract_xc3028.pl, the device seems to be detected now, i can detect all the analog TV of my cable using tvtime, but manually, i mean i had to disable signal detection when scanning, otherwise i got no results, since the picture quality is terrible. Of course i'm sure that all the connections (cable to antenna, cable to the usb stick, ...) are correct, since it works with my old PC equipped with a PCI TV card. Any advice, what could be the problem? firmware? since you said (you added support for this device) should i open a bug report? is this device reported as working by other users? Please help if possible, almost two weeks with no real success. Could you please provide a screen shot of the tvtime output? Screenshots here for TV and S-Video input configuration with TV time. http://ali.blogsite.org/files/tvtime/ Could you try the S-Video or composite input and see if the picture quality is still bad (as this well help isolate whether it's a problem with the tuner chip or the decoder. Same picture quality with S-Video, but with composite there is no picture. Many thanks. Devin Cheers, Ali. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Ali Abdallah al...@xfce.org wrote: Screenshots here for TV and S-Video input configuration with TV time. http://ali.blogsite.org/files/tvtime/ Could you try the S-Video or composite input and see if the picture quality is still bad (as this well help isolate whether it's a problem with the tuner chip or the decoder. Same picture quality with S-Video, but with composite there is no picture. Ok, this helps alot. This rules out the tuner and suggests that perhaps the video decoder is not being programmed properly. Could you please send me the output of dmesg? I'll see about setting up a tree with some additional debugging for you to try out. Thanks, Devin -- Devin J. Heitmueller - Kernel Labs http://www.kernellabs.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Ali Abdallah al...@xfce.org wrote: Screenshots here for TV and S-Video input configuration with TV time. http://ali.blogsite.org/files/tvtime/ Could you try the S-Video or composite input and see if the picture quality is still bad (as this well help isolate whether it's a problem with the tuner chip or the decoder. Same picture quality with S-Video, but with composite there is no picture. Ok, this helps alot. This rules out the tuner and suggests that perhaps the video decoder is not being programmed properly. Could you please send me the output of dmesg? usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 15 usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice em28xx: New device USB 2881 Video @ 480 Mbps (eb1a:2881, interface 0, class 0) em28xx #0: chip ID is em2882/em2883 em28xx #0: i2c eeprom 00: 1a eb 67 95 1a eb 81 28 58 12 5c 00 6a 20 6a 00 em28xx #0: i2c eeprom 10: 00 00 04 57 64 57 00 00 60 f4 00 00 02 02 00 00 em28xx #0: i2c eeprom 20: 56 00 01 00 00 00 02 00 b8 00 00 00 5b 1e 00 00 em28xx #0: i2c eeprom 30: 00 00 20 40 20 80 02 20 10 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 em28xx #0: i2c eeprom 40: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 em28xx #0: i2c eeprom 50: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 em28xx #0: i2c eeprom 60: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 03 55 00 53 00 em28xx #0: i2c eeprom 70: 42 00 20 00 32 00 38 00 38 00 31 00 20 00 56 00 em28xx #0: i2c eeprom 80: 69 00 64 00 65 00 6f 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 em28xx #0: i2c eeprom 90: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 em28xx #0: i2c eeprom a0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 em28xx #0: i2c eeprom b0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 em28xx #0: i2c eeprom c0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 em28xx #0: i2c eeprom d0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 em28xx #0: i2c eeprom e0: 5a 00 55 aa 79 55 54 03 00 17 98 01 00 00 00 00 em28xx #0: i2c eeprom f0: 0c 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 em28xx #0: EEPROM ID= 0x9567eb1a, EEPROM hash = 0xb8846b20 em28xx #0: EEPROM info: em28xx #0:AC97 audio (5 sample rates) em28xx #0:USB Remote wakeup capable em28xx #0:500mA max power em28xx #0:Table at 0x04, strings=0x206a, 0x006a, 0x em28xx #0: Identified as Unknown EM2750/28xx video grabber (card=1) em28xx #0: Your board has no unique USB ID. em28xx #0: A hint were successfully done, based on eeprom hash. em28xx #0: This method is not 100% failproof. em28xx #0: If the board were missdetected, please email this log to: em28xx #0: V4L Mailing List linux-media@vger.kernel.org em28xx #0: Board detected as Pinnacle Hybrid Pro tvp5150 1-005c: chip found @ 0xb8 (em28xx #0) tuner 1-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (em28xx #0) xc2028 1-0061: creating new instance xc2028 1-0061: type set to XCeive xc2028/xc3028 tuner usb 1-1: firmware: requesting xc3028-v27.fw xc2028 1-0061: Loading 80 firmware images from xc3028-v27.fw, type: xc2028 firmware, ver 2.7 xc2028 1-0061: Loading firmware for type=BASE (1), id . xc2028 1-0061: Loading firmware for type=(0), id b700. SCODE (2000), id b700: xc2028 1-0061: Loading SCODE for type=MONO SCODE HAS_IF_4320 (60008000), id 8000. em28xx #0: Config register raw data: 0x58 em28xx #0: AC97 vendor ID = 0x em28xx #0: AC97 features = 0x6a90 em28xx #0: Empia 202 AC97 audio processor detected tvp5150 1-005c: tvp5150am1 detected. em28xx #0: v4l2 driver version 0.1.2 em28xx #0: V4L2 video device registered as /dev/video0 em28xx #0: V4L2 VBI device registered as /dev/vbi0 xc2028 1-0061: attaching existing instance xc2028 1-0061: type set to XCeive xc2028/xc3028 tuner em28xx #0/2: xc3028 attached DVB: registering new adapter (em28xx #0) DVB: registering adapter 0 frontend 0 (Zarlink ZL10353 DVB-T)... Successfully loaded em28xx-dvb tvp5150 1-005c: tvp5150am1 detected. tvp5150 1-005c: tvp5150am1 detected. tvp5150 1-005c: tvp5150am1 detected. xc2028 1-0061: Loading firmware for type=BASE F8MHZ (3), id . (0), id 00ff: xc2028 1-0061: Loading firmware for type=(0), id 0020. xc2028 1-0061: Loading SCODE for type=MONO SCODE HAS_IF_6320 (60008000), id 0020. tvp5150 1-005c: tvp5150am1 detected. xc2028 1-0061: Loading firmware for type=BASE F8MHZ (3), id . (0), id 00ff: xc2028 1-0061: Loading firmware for type=(0), id 0020. xc2028 1-0061: Loading SCODE for type=MONO SCODE HAS_IF_6320 (60008000), id 0020. I'll see about setting up a tree with some additional debugging for you to try out. Okay i'm ready to try it out. Thanks, Devin Cheers, Ali. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
Markus Rechberger wrote: Available from 20th Oct on so in 11 days. There are not many competitive devices (none) available for linux which deliver such support. On the other side it's not kernel based either, it's entirely in userspace. It's also entirely supported by all participating companies. this is a mailing list for the open source dvb drivers you are talking about a closed source solution what does your solution have to do with linuxtv.org? nothing -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Simon Kenyon si...@koala.ie wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: Available from 20th Oct on so in 11 days. There are not many competitive devices (none) available for linux which deliver such support. On the other side it's not kernel based either, it's entirely in userspace. It's also entirely supported by all participating companies. this is a mailing list for the open source dvb drivers you are talking about a closed source solution what does your solution have to do with linuxtv.org? I see linux-media, you can find the sources of a patched tvtime version on the website. It shows an alternative way how to integrate usb chipsolutions in linux. Aside of that the official DVB(3/5)/V4L(1/2) API has been reviewed through our work and bugreports have been submitted to various places (linux media, some linux distributions). It integrates flawlessly and helps to improve the overall media support with linux. The posting was pointing out to Ali's email that he was looking for a working analog TV solution for France. He has bought this Pinnacle device 3 years ago, the vendor does not care about support for it. We provide solutions which work within a few seconds, nevermind what distribution. Although this was my last mail addressing your questions. Best Regards, Markus Rechberger -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Ali Abdallah al...@xfce.org wrote: Hi, Very unlucky, i bought a pinnacle hybrid pro and couldn't get it to work with linux, then i gave it up, and i found that HVR-900 card works well under linux, i got one, but i didn't know that the company is referring now for 900 same as 900H. 900H doesn't work under Linux, is there is way to get this card working? googling i didn't find much information, all i found is work under way to get this card supported (2008). Please help, Mauro was working on this driver some time ago... There is a current thread about the tm6010 on the mailing list now, but I have not read up on it. Last I heard, progress on the driver has been minimal. Almost all other Hauppauge products have relatively decent linux support -- you were unlucky and picked the one usb stick that will probably not be fully functional for a while. If you're interested in helping the driver development, then take a look at the related mailing list posts. Otherwise, you might be better off choosing a different product. On the other hand, I think there's been some recent progress on the PCTV hybrid pro -- Devin Heitmueller has been doing a lot of work on those products lately. For more information, see http://kernellabs.com Are you specifically looking for a hybrid analog / digital usb stick? ...or is digital-only good enough for your purposes? -Mike -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
Michael Krufky wrote: On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Ali Abdallah al...@xfce.org wrote: Hi, Very unlucky, i bought a pinnacle hybrid pro and couldn't get it to work with linux, then i gave it up, and i found that HVR-900 card works well under linux, i got one, but i didn't know that the company is referring now for 900 same as 900H. 900H doesn't work under Linux, is there is way to get this card working? googling i didn't find much information, all i found is work under way to get this card supported (2008). Please help, Mauro was working on this driver some time ago... There is a current thread about the tm6010 on the mailing list now, but I have not read up on it. Last I heard, progress on the driver has been minimal. I saw the thread, but no news since quite some time, and trust me, searching on the internet it seems a lot of people are getting the 900H instead of the 900, it is the hauppage fault here. Almost all other Hauppauge products have relatively decent linux support -- you were unlucky and picked the one usb stick that will probably not be fully functional for a while. That's why i got hauppauge card, but well it was the 900H one. If you're interested in helping the driver development, then take a look at the related mailing list posts. Otherwise, you might be better off choosing a different product. On the other hand, I think there's been some recent progress on the PCTV hybrid pro -- Devin Heitmueller has been doing a lot of work on those products lately. For more information, see http://kernellabs.com That's a good new, i can still get that card, probably i can help testing the driver. Are you specifically looking for a hybrid analog / digital usb stick? ...or is digital-only good enough for your purposes? Yeah, i need to get an analog USB stick to work under Linux, because i replaced my desktop with a small imax mini (which i got the windows refund for it) but it is a very small PC that doesn't have PCI card. So basically if i can get the analog part of the PCTV hybrid pro or the Win TV hvr900h to work under Linux that will be awesome. -Mike Thanks for your quick reply. Ali. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Ali Abdallah al...@xfce.org wrote: If you're interested in helping the driver development, then take a look at the related mailing list posts. Otherwise, you might be better off choosing a different product. On the other hand, I think there's been some recent progress on the PCTV hybrid pro -- Devin Heitmueller has been doing a lot of work on those products lately. For more information, see http://kernellabs.com That's a good new, i can still get that card, probably i can help testing the driver. It depends on what your needs are and whether you already own the device. If you own an older version of the board already, it may or may not work depending on which board you ended up with (if you send the USB ID, I can tell you the status in terms of support). If you haven't bought it yet, then the currently shipping version of this product is not supported (I'm actively working on the support). Also, even once I have added the support, it will only be for the digital part of the card, with no plans at this time to do the analog support. Cheers, Devin -- Devin J. Heitmueller - Kernel Labs http://www.kernellabs.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Ali Abdallah al...@xfce.org wrote: If you're interested in helping the driver development, then take a look at the related mailing list posts. Otherwise, you might be better off choosing a different product. On the other hand, I think there's been some recent progress on the PCTV hybrid pro -- Devin Heitmueller has been doing a lot of work on those products lately. For more information, see http://kernellabs.com That's a good new, i can still get that card, probably i can help testing the driver. It depends on what your needs are and whether you already own the device. If you own an older version of the board already, it may or may not work depending on which board you ended up with (if you send the USB ID, I can tell you the status in terms of support). If you haven't bought it yet, then the currently shipping version of this product is not supported (I'm actively working on the support). Also, even once I have added the support, it will only be for the digital part of the card, with no plans at this time to do the analog support. I have the card since alsmost 3 years, it never worked, but now i'm in urgent need of getting an analog usb stick to work with Linux. The PCTV hybrid: Bus 001 Device 004: ID eb1a:2881 eMPIA Technology, Inc. Thanks for you support, but i need an analog usb stick, well hopefully the wintv 900H will get supported soon. Cheers, Devin Cheers, Ali. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Ali Abdallah al...@xfce.org wrote: I have the card since alsmost 3 years, it never worked, but now i'm in urgent need of getting an analog usb stick to work with Linux. The PCTV hybrid: Bus 001 Device 004: ID eb1a:2881 eMPIA Technology, Inc. Thanks for you support, but i need an analog usb stick, well hopefully the wintv 900H will get supported soon. Well, I added support for that device last month, so I would suggest you install the latest v4l-dvb code from http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb. Directions can be found here: http://linuxtv.org/repo Cheers, Devin -- Devin J. Heitmueller - Kernel Labs http://www.kernellabs.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Ali Abdallah al...@xfce.org wrote: I have the card since alsmost 3 years, it never worked, but now i'm in urgent need of getting an analog usb stick to work with Linux. The PCTV hybrid: Bus 001 Device 004: ID eb1a:2881 eMPIA Technology, Inc. Thanks for you support, but i need an analog usb stick, well hopefully the wintv 900H will get supported soon. Well, I added support for that device last month, so I would suggest you install the latest v4l-dvb code from http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb. Directions can be found here: http://linuxtv.org/repo Analog part also? Cheers, Devin Cheers, Ali. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Devin Heitmueller dheitmuel...@kernellabs.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Ali Abdallah al...@xfce.org wrote: I have the card since alsmost 3 years, it never worked, but now i'm in urgent need of getting an analog usb stick to work with Linux. The PCTV hybrid: Bus 001 Device 004: ID eb1a:2881 eMPIA Technology, Inc. Thanks for you support, but i need an analog usb stick, well hopefully the wintv 900H will get supported soon. Well, I added support for that device last month, so I would suggest you install the latest v4l-dvb code from http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb. Directions can be found here: http://linuxtv.org/repo Aside of that we also fully support Linux http://support.sundtek.de/index.php/topic,4.0.html http://support.sundtek.de/index.php/topic,7.0.html We also use to report bugs to Distributors in order to improve general Multimedia Support. Customers also get dedicated support as far as needed in order to get everything work properly (if needed). Best Regards, Markus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
