Re: TBS 6980 Dual DVB-S2 PCIe card
Hi Per, Am Donnerstag, den 04.03.2010, 14:03 +0200 schrieb Per Lundberg: Hi Hermann, On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:05 AM, hermann pitton hermann-pit...@arcor.de wrote: Has anyone done any attempt at contacting TBS to see if they can release their changes under the GPLv2? Ideally, they would provide a patch themselves, but it should be fairly simple to diff the linux/ trees from their provided linux-s2api-tbs6980.tar.bz2 file with the stock Linux 2.6.32 code... in fact, it could be that their patch is so trivial that we could just include it in the stock Linux kernel without asking them for license clarifications... but obviously, if we can get a green sign from them, it would be even better. It is always the other way round. In the end they need a green sign from us. Well... I guess we are both right. :-) They need to assert ownership and license the code under the GPL, and we need to ensure that the quality of the code is high enough (driver is working and does not interfer with other parts of the code base...). no, they must provide GPLed code accepted by NXP or someone else will do it. We can't assure quality of code we can't see. BTW, the TBS dual seems to be fine on m$, but there are some mysterious lockups without any trace, if used in conjunction with some prior S2/HDTV cards. I can't tell yet, if that it is evenly distributed over amd/ati and nvidia stuff or whatever on win7 ... , but people do spend lifetime in vain on it. This is pretty interesting, do you have any references? (forum links or similar) No, a friend recently bought that card in addition to a Terratec S2 PCI for his new windows 7 he already had. Likely totally unrelated to linux, but on his stuff it turned out he can't use both cards at once, single both are fine. In my particular case, I was thinking about using it as the only S2 card in the machine, later possibly adding a DVB-C card if/when we get cable... so, it might not be a problem for me, but it still doesn't feel really good. I guess the card is pretty new, so maybe (hopefully) it will get fixed by a new firmware release. Do we have any readers of this list who own the card and use it in Linux (with the drivers from TBS)? Could you please share your experiences: is the picture quality good? Sound? Does the tuner work well? (e.g. can you receive all channels you normally receive...) Sorry, can't help much yet and can't add anything new. For now I advised better not to try with binary blobs on linux, he was already burned enough on win7. He might try later and we will have it under GPL sooner or later. Cheers, Hermann -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: TBS 6980 Dual DVB-S2 PCIe card
Am Donnerstag, den 04.03.2010, 08:19 + schrieb Per Lundberg: Hi! I read the old thread about this card, at http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@vger.kernel.org/msg12753.html. I've also tried downloading the vendor-provided drivers from http://www.buydvb.net/download2/TBS6980/tbs6980linuxdriver2.6.32.rar As someone has already indicated, it seems like TBS (TurboSight) have made their own fork of v4l where the drivers for this card is included. I've also understood that the card works fine, which is nice (I down own it yet but am considering getting one). Has anyone done any attempt at contacting TBS to see if they can release their changes under the GPLv2? Ideally, they would provide a patch themselves, but it should be fairly simple to diff the linux/ trees from their provided linux-s2api-tbs6980.tar.bz2 file with the stock Linux 2.6.32 code... in fact, it could be that their patch is so trivial that we could just include it in the stock Linux kernel without asking them for license clarifications... but obviously, if we can get a green sign from them, it would be even better. -- Best regards, Per Lundberg It is always the other way round. In the end they need a green sign from us. Cheers, Hermann BTW, the TBS dual seems to be fine on m$, but there are some mysterious lockups without any trace, if used in conjunction with some prior S2/HDTV cards. I can't tell yet, if that it is evenly distributed over amd/ati and nvidia stuff or whatever on win7 ... , but people do spend lifetime in vain on it. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: TBS 6980 Dual DVB-S2 PCIe card
Hi Hermann, On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:05 AM, hermann pitton hermann-pit...@arcor.de wrote: Has anyone done any attempt at contacting TBS to see if they can release their changes under the GPLv2? Ideally, they would provide a patch themselves, but it should be fairly simple to diff the linux/ trees from their provided linux-s2api-tbs6980.tar.bz2 file with the stock Linux 2.6.32 code... in fact, it could be that their patch is so trivial that we could just include it in the stock Linux kernel without asking them for license clarifications... but obviously, if we can get a green sign from them, it would be even better. It is always the other way round. In the end they need a green sign from us. Well... I guess we are both right. :-) They need to assert ownership and license the code under the GPL, and we need to ensure that the quality of the code is high enough (driver is working and does not interfer with other parts of the code base...). BTW, the TBS dual seems to be fine on m$, but there are some mysterious lockups without any trace, if used in conjunction with some prior S2/HDTV cards. I can't tell yet, if that it is evenly distributed over amd/ati and nvidia stuff or whatever on win7 ... , but people do spend lifetime in vain on it. This is pretty interesting, do you have any references? (forum links or similar) In my particular case, I was thinking about using it as the only S2 card in the machine, later possibly adding a DVB-C card if/when we get cable... so, it might not be a problem for me, but it still doesn't feel really good. I guess the card is pretty new, so maybe (hopefully) it will get fixed by a new firmware release. Do we have any readers of this list who own the card and use it in Linux (with the drivers from TBS)? Could you please share your experiences: is the picture quality good? Sound? Does the tuner work well? (e.g. can you receive all channels you normally receive...) -- Best regards, Per Lundberg -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: TBS 6980 Dual DVB-S2 PCIe card
On 3/4/10 1:03 PM, Per Lundberg wrote: Hi Hermann, On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:05 AM, hermann pittonhermann-pit...@arcor.de wrote: Has anyone done any attempt at contacting TBS to see if they can release their changes under the GPLv2? Ideally, they would provide a patch themselves, but it should be fairly simple to diff the linux/ trees from their provided linux-s2api-tbs6980.tar.bz2 file with the stock Linux 2.6.32 code... in fact, it could be that their patch is so trivial that we could just include it in the stock Linux kernel without asking them for license clarifications... but obviously, if we can get a green sign from them, it would be even better. It is always the other way round. In the end they need a green sign from us. Well... I guess we are both right. :-) They need to assert ownership and license the code under the GPL, and we need to ensure that the quality of the code is high enough (driver is working and does not interfer with other parts of the code base...). We I asked TBS' support about this question they told me they would like to get it out under GPL as it has been done with other cards they sell but that right now it was not possible due to legal contraints related to some of the code in use by some of the chips on the board. No further details were provided. BTW, the TBS dual seems to be fine on m$, but there are some mysterious lockups without any trace, if used in conjunction with some prior S2/HDTV cards. I can't tell yet, if that it is evenly distributed over amd/ati and nvidia stuff or whatever on win7 ... , but people do spend lifetime in vain on it. This is pretty interesting, do you have any references? (forum links or similar) In my particular case, I was thinking about using it as the only S2 card in the machine, later possibly adding a DVB-C card if/when we get cable... so, it might not be a problem for me, but it still doesn't feel really good. I guess the card is pretty new, so maybe (hopefully) it will get fixed by a new firmware release. Do we have any readers of this list who own the card and use it in Linux (with the drivers from TBS)? Could you please share your experiences: is the picture quality good? Sound? Does the tuner work well? (e.g. can you receive all channels you normally receive...) Yes I use the card. Have had it for a couple of months now running in a server that acts as a video head-end in my test network. I only tune to specific transponders when I boot the server so I can't really comment on tuning time and related issues. Yes I've used it for S and S2 feeds and so far it fits my requirements. HTH, Thomas -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: TBS 6980 Dual DVB-S2 PCIe card
Hi, I just got a new card the TBS 8920 DVB-S2 PCI version. And having problems with MythTV. I'm running Mythbutu 9.10 with MythTV0.22 and the TBS supplied drivers. I have generated a channels.conf file using scan and can view channels using mplayer dvb:// command. Now I want to import my channels.conf into Mythtv, I gone through the steps of specfying the card in Mythtv backend setup, DiSEqC set to LNB, specified path and file to import channels.conf file /home/tv/channels.conf. It then starts to do a Scan, but timesout and no channels are found. I tried increasing the timeout values but I get the same result. Can you tell me if I'm missing a step? or how you approached the scanning of channels in MythTV Thanks, Dominic - Original Message From: Ian Richardson ian.richard...@rbsworldpay.com To: Thomas Kernen tker...@deckpoint.ch Cc: Matthias Wächter matth...@waechter.wiz.at; linux-media@vger.kernel.org Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 2:37:23 PM Subject: Re: TBS 6980 Dual DVB-S2 PCIe card On 2009-12-09 15:27, Thomas Kernen wrote: Ian Richardson wrote: On 2009-12-08 13:31, Thomas Kernen wrote: Matthias Wächter wrote: Hallo Thomas! Am 02.12.2009 15:31, schrieb Thomas Kernen: Is someone already working on supporting the TBS 6980 Dual DVB-S2 PCIe card? http://www.tbsdtv.com/english/product/6980.html I can now confirm it works fine with MythTV 0.22 and at least their version of V4L. I tripped up on the known backend defect where you can't obviously select the DiSEqC config. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythtv/+bug/452894 for more info, and the workaround. Thanks, Ian -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: TBS 6980 Dual DVB-S2 PCIe card
On 2009-12-09 15:27, Thomas Kernen wrote: Ian Richardson wrote: On 2009-12-08 13:31, Thomas Kernen wrote: Matthias Wächter wrote: Hallo Thomas! Am 02.12.2009 15:31, schrieb Thomas Kernen: Is someone already working on supporting the TBS 6980 Dual DVB-S2 PCIe card? http://www.tbsdtv.com/english/product/6980.html I can now confirm it works fine with MythTV 0.22 and at least their version of V4L. I tripped up on the known backend defect where you can't obviously select the DiSEqC config. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythtv/+bug/452894 for more info, and the workaround. Thanks, Ian -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: TBS 6980 Dual DVB-S2 PCIe card
Ian Richardson wrote: On 2009-12-08 13:31, Thomas Kernen wrote: Matthias Wächter wrote: Hallo Thomas! Am 02.12.2009 15:31, schrieb Thomas Kernen: Is someone already working on supporting the TBS 6980 Dual DVB-S2 PCIe card? http://www.tbsdtv.com/english/product/6980.html I got one last Thursday, also direct from TBS. They provide a mini CD with their own V4L which has support for it included, together with versions of scan-s2 and szap-s2, but I'm a relative newbie and I've already managed to break my MythTV 0.22 setup trying to get it working. Any tips on how to get it working with Ubuntu 9.10 and kernel 2.6.31-16.52 would be very handy. With their V4L I can only get as far as a successful channel scan. Ian, I got my card today and have installed it. Works fine with the drivers from the mini CD and the streamer I'm testing against (DVBlast). So unfortunately I can't help you with MythTV since I don't use it. Note that I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 with 2.6.31-16-server Thomas -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: TBS 6980 Dual DVB-S2 PCIe card
Hallo Thomas! Am 02.12.2009 15:31, schrieb Thomas Kernen: Is someone already working on supporting the TBS 6980 Dual DVB-S2 PCIe card? http://www.tbsdtv.com/english/product/6980.html Have you seen/tried their all-in-one linux source package which was released 2009-12-03? http://www.tbsdtv.com/download/common/linux_tbs_all.rar – Matthias BTW: Where did you get yours? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: TBS 6980 Dual DVB-S2 PCIe card
Matthias Wächter wrote: Hallo Thomas! Am 02.12.2009 15:31, schrieb Thomas Kernen: Is someone already working on supporting the TBS 6980 Dual DVB-S2 PCIe card? http://www.tbsdtv.com/english/product/6980.html Have you seen/tried their all-in-one linux source package which was released 2009-12-03? http://www.tbsdtv.com/download/common/linux_tbs_all.rar – Matthias BTW: Where did you get yours? Hello Matthias, I've ordered a card directly from TBS. It's currently being shipped hence I won't be able to test it until at least next week. Then I'll see how it behaves in my system alongside all the other cards I have in it. Regards, Thomas -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: TBS 6980 Dual DVB-S2 PCIe card
On 2009-12-08 13:31, Thomas Kernen wrote: Matthias Wächter wrote: Hallo Thomas! Am 02.12.2009 15:31, schrieb Thomas Kernen: Is someone already working on supporting the TBS 6980 Dual DVB-S2 PCIe card? http://www.tbsdtv.com/english/product/6980.html I got one last Thursday, also direct from TBS. They provide a mini CD with their own V4L which has support for it included, together with versions of scan-s2 and szap-s2, but I'm a relative newbie and I've already managed to break my MythTV 0.22 setup trying to get it working. Any tips on how to get it working with Ubuntu 9.10 and kernel 2.6.31-16.52 would be very handy. With their V4L I can only get as far as a successful channel scan. Ian -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
