Re: Wanted: Advice on PDAs
Michael JasonSmith wrote: On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 18:37, Paul William wrote: Unistrokes can take a while to get used to, but it is fairly fast. The but much slower than single stroke 'funny' letters :( Unistrokes *is* the single-stroke funny letters. oops :) meant the multistroke letters. The original paper was called Touch Typing with a Pen IIRC, and was written by them fine folks at Xerox PARC. When Palm (US Robotics?) introduced Graffiti they got sued by Xerox. They have since come to an arrangement that I cannot recall off the top of my head... The down side to Unistrokes is that you do have to learn a new character-set (albeit related to standard Roman characters). However, the characters are fast to write, and the processing power needed to recognise the characters is far less than with true hand-writing recognition.
RE: FW: Canterbury Linux Users Group
I found the list through the library. It was very helpful to have the CINCH database to refer to. If we are not meeting at the same place all the time I suggest we also amend the location to Meeting places and times are discussed on the list and add some basic subscribe info if it is not there already. ( I think it is) Ciao, Dave -Original Message- From: Bjorn Nilsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2004 6:56 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: Canterbury Linux Users Group Hi Margaret, Looks good, we are currently not running regular meetings, I think it would be best to change the Times/Meetings to Meeting times are posted on the mailing list. Other members may have further input, so I have CC'd this to the mailing list. cheers, Bjorn Hi, Are you able to help Cheers Margaret -Original Message- From:Pester, Margaret Sent:Monday, 15 March 2004 1:05 p.m. To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Canterbury Linux Users Group Hello, I would like to update the CINCH record for the above organisation on our community database. If you visit the link below, this will lead you to the organisation's record. Would you mind checking and advising any additions and alterations by completing our online update form: http://library.christchurch.org.nz/cinch/update/ http://library.christchurch.org.nz/Cinch/keyword.asp?LN++AAB-4725 Many thanks Margaret Pester CINCH Assistant Digital Library Services, Christchurch City Libraries PO Box 1466, Christchurch 8015 DDI: 03-941-7903 Fax: 03-941-7848 Web page: http://library.christchurch.org.nz/cinch/ ** This electronic email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the Christchurch City Council. If you are not the correct recipient of this email please advise the sender and delete. Christchurch City Council http://www.ccc.govt.nz **
Re: Wanted: Advice on PDAs
On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 21:13, Paul William wrote: Unistrokes *is* the single-stroke funny letters. oops :) meant the multistroke letters. I guessed you did, but (for once) I wanted to make sure there was no confusion :) -- Michael JasonSmith http://www.ldots.org/
Fwd: Re: FW: Canterbury Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: FW: Canterbury Linux Users Group Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:40 From: Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 18:56, Bjorn Nilsen wrote: Hi Margaret, Looks good, we are currently not running regular meetings, I think it would be best to change the Times/Meetings to Meeting times are posted on the mailing list. Other members may have further input, so I have CC'd this to the mailing list. You might like to change this:- Description: Club is open to anyone with an interest in Linux, just join the mailing list. We are also have irregular meetings. Currently there is no joining fee or subscription. Details are posted on website. New Linux users are encouraged and will find many people willing to help To something like:- Description: The club is open to anyone with an interest in Linux. To join the mailing list click on this link:- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and send the resulting mail. You will then start to receive our messages to the address from which you subscribed. We also have irregular meetings, which are announced on the list and Web Site. There is no joining fee or subscription. New Linux users will find a warm welcome, and people willing to help sort out problems. Related Subject(s): Linux Computers--Societies, etc. Arts, crafts and hobbies Sydenham Heathcote Ward (Christchurch) I'd just like to mention that we are not really Arts, crafts. -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell NB. This PC runs Linux. If you find a virus apparently from me, it has forged the e-mail headers on someone else's machine. Please do not notify me when this occurs. Thanks. --- -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell NB. This PC runs Linux. If you find a virus apparently from me, it has forged the e-mail headers on someone else's machine. Please do not notify me when this occurs. Thanks.
RE: Yast going GPL - CLUG
On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 09:35, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: Presbyopia is an age-associated progressive loss of the focusing power of the lens. This results in difficulty seeing objects close-up. Arf arf! Thanks Rob :-/ (aren't you older than me? :-) -- Regards, Zane Gilmore (Linux nerd since 1998) Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.:- A.C.Clark
flashcard reader
Quick note to say that the 7-in-1 card reader from flashcards.co.nz works like a charme (well, with CF, didn't test others). All hardware should be like that: plug in, computer beeps, icon appears on desktop, clicking icon shows all the files in the file manager. Right click icon, unmount, unplug, finished. Geek info: Bus 001 Device 009: ID 05e3:0760 Genesys Logic, Inc. No other identifiable manufacturer or model names on packaging. The hotplug system creates an entry in /etc/fstab only if a card is in the reader when it's plugged in (the entry is removed again too). Without that entry there may be the odd problem with non-root to mount/unmount. Of course one can just make the same entry in fstab permanently. Suse 8.2. I'd have excpected 1MB/s reading and writing with a USB 1.1 interface (the reader is 2.0, but not my compi), but I get about 1MB/s writing and 0.5MB/s reading. Fwiw, billyware eXPensive pussyfoots around for at least a minute, desperately trying to decide whether to display 1, 5, 3, 1, none, 5, none, 5, or 1 drives for this piece of hardware. Thanks Jason, Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
usind dd to clone hard drive
Hi all, Is a simple dd: dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdx capable of 'cloning' hdc into hdx? hdc is nearly dead so I will be getting a replacement tomorrow and I don't fell like reinstalling everything. Cheers Paul
Re: flashcard reader
works fine with usb 2 although I have not done any speed tests. I imagine the media I am using is slower than my usb 2 card. Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Quick note to say that the 7-in-1 card reader from flashcards.co.nz works like a charme (well, with CF, didn't test others). All hardware should be like that: plug in, computer beeps, icon appears on desktop, clicking icon shows all the files in the file manager. Right click icon, unmount, unplug, finished. Geek info: Bus 001 Device 009: ID 05e3:0760 Genesys Logic, Inc. No other identifiable manufacturer or model names on packaging. The hotplug system creates an entry in /etc/fstab only if a card is in the reader when it's plugged in (the entry is removed again too). Without that entry there may be the odd problem with non-root to mount/unmount. Of course one can just make the same entry in fstab permanently. Suse 8.2. I'd have excpected 1MB/s reading and writing with a USB 1.1 interface (the reader is 2.0, but not my compi), but I get about 1MB/s writing and 0.5MB/s reading. Fwiw, billyware eXPensive pussyfoots around for at least a minute, desperately trying to decide whether to display 1, 5, 3, 1, none, 5, none, 5, or 1 drives for this piece of hardware. Thanks Jason, Volker
Re: usind dd to clone hard drive
On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 07:37, Paul William wrote: Is a simple dd: dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdx capable of 'cloning' hdc into hdx? hdc is nearly dead so I will be getting a replacement tomorrow and I don't fell like reinstalling everything. That'll work, copying everything including partitions, filesystems etc. Make sure that size(hdx) = size(hdc). Cheers, Rex\
Re: usind dd to clone hard drive
Hi Paul, The disks should be the same size if you're doing that. Otherwise, do it on a per partition basis, having set the new partitions up the same as the old ones. You may want to play with the bs option to improve performance, but I doubt you've got that luxury! ...and make sure you've got a boot floppy, you're probably not going to have a bootstrap on the new one! Good Luck, Steve On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:37:41 +1200, you wrote: Hi all, Is a simple dd: dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdx capable of 'cloning' hdc into hdx? hdc is nearly dead so I will be getting a replacement tomorrow and I don't fell like reinstalling everything. Cheers Paul
Re: usind dd to clone hard drive
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:37, Paul William wrote: Hi all, Is a simple dd: dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdx capable of 'cloning' hdc into hdx? if the two devices are identical, unconditionally, yes. if hdx is smaller than hdc, then effectively no. if hdx is larger than hdc, then yes, and you then have the opportunity to adjust the partitions after copying. imho, it's a better idea to partition the destination disk appropriately and do file copies of each partition using the cp utility in recursive mode. While this method will take longer it has the side benefit that any fragmented files will the made contiguous. hdc is nearly dead so I will be getting a replacement tomorrow and I don't fell like reinstalling everything. It is a good idea to do this sort of system work in single user mode. dd has an option 'bs' for Block Size. Larger block sizes have a remarkably beneficial effect on data transfer speed. For identical disks one could even go to the size of a disk cylinder. -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell NB. This PC runs Linux. If you find a virus apparently from me, it has forged the e-mail headers on someone else's machine. Please do not notify me when this occurs. Thanks.
Re: usind dd to clone hard drive
Just out of interest, is there any reason why it shouldn't work going from a smaller hard disk to a larger hard disk? I've used something similar to backup a disk image to a file on a larger disk - sending the output of dd across to another machine by piping it through netcat, where it's written to a file (by dd agan) - great if you're installing a new distro on your laptop and suspect you might trash it ;-) one command from a tomsrtbt floppy and you've got the HD restored to it's backup state, bootloader and all. Anyway, reason I ask if you can do it from small HD - large HD is that I'm thinking of changing the HD in my IPCOP box with the one in my www server box (which is currently the smaller of the two - obviously the server needs the larger HD, and IPCOP doesn't). Reinstalling IPCOP on the smaller HD is no big deal obviously, IPCOP installs being what they are :-) But I was rather hoping for the server that I could just write the HD image from the smaller HD directly to the larger HD (using dd), keeping partition tables and bootloader intact. I imagined that it'd all work nicely, and I'd just need to create one more partition at the end of the disk to use the extra space. Can anyone point out a good reason why this won't work? Cheers, Gareth On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:01, Steve Holdoway wrote: Hi Paul, The disks should be the same size if you're doing that. Otherwise, do it on a per partition basis, having set the new partitions up the same as the old ones. You may want to play with the bs option to improve performance, but I doubt you've got that luxury! ...and make sure you've got a boot floppy, you're probably not going to have a bootstrap on the new one! Good Luck, Steve On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:37:41 +1200, you wrote: Hi all, Is a simple dd: dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdx capable of 'cloning' hdc into hdx? hdc is nearly dead so I will be getting a replacement tomorrow and I don't fell like reinstalling everything. Cheers Paul
RE: Yast going GPL - CLUG
Yes and I just got new lenses for my reading glasses. (That's why I knew how to spell Presbyopia) Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: Zane Gilmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2004 11:33 p.m. To: Linux_list Subject:RE: Yast going GPL - CLUG On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 09:35, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: Presbyopia is an age-associated progressive loss of the focusing power of the lens. This results in difficulty seeing objects close-up. Arf arf! Thanks Rob :-/ (aren't you older than me? :-) -- Regards, Zane Gilmore (Linux nerd since 1998) Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.:- A.C.Clark
Re: usind dd to clone hard drive
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:43, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:37, Paul William wrote: Hi all, Is a simple dd: dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdx capable of 'cloning' hdc into hdx? if the two devices are identical, unconditionally, yes. if hdx is smaller than hdc, then effectively no. if hdx is larger than hdc, then yes, and you then have the opportunity to adjust the partitions after copying. imho, it's a better idea to partition the destination disk appropriately and do file copies of each partition using the cp utility in recursive mode. While this method will take longer it has the side benefit that any fragmented files will the made contiguous. Aha, excellent. I never thought of that benefit (getting rid of fragmentation) of using cp. Of course to do that you then need to create partitions again / create filesystems, copy files (ensuring you keep ownership / permissions intact etc), reinstall your bootloader... it can be a pain. Imaging the disk with dd is faster and simpler. I think I'll still go with that unless it's severely fragmented. Thanks for this Christopher, you answered my question too (which I think was pretty much the same question, doh. Need more coffee...). I now think I'll just extend the last partition to fill up the disk, instead of creating a new one. If I delete the entry for the last partition on the disk, using fdisk, and then create a new one that starts at the same place but ends at the end of the disk, all should be good I think :-) fingers crossed (hey, if it breaks anything I can always just 'dd' the image back again, hehe). Cheers, Gareth
Re: usind dd to clone hard drive
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:12, Gareth Williams wrote: On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:43, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:37, Paul William wrote: Hi all, Is a simple dd: dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdx capable of 'cloning' hdc into hdx? if the two devices are identical, unconditionally, yes. if hdx is smaller than hdc, then effectively no. if hdx is larger than hdc, then yes, and you then have the opportunity to adjust the partitions after copying. imho, it's a better idea to partition the destination disk appropriately and do file copies of each partition using the cp utility in recursive mode. While this method will take longer it has the side benefit that any fragmented files will the made contiguous. Aha, excellent. I never thought of that benefit (getting rid of fragmentation) of using cp. Of course to do that you then need to create partitions again / create filesystems, copy files (ensuring you keep ownership / permissions intact etc), reinstall your bootloader... it can be a pain. Imaging the disk with dd is faster and simpler. I think I'll still go with that unless it's severely fragmented. Thanks for this Christopher, you answered my question too (which I think was pretty much the same question, doh. Need more coffee...). I now think I'll just extend the last partition to fill up the disk, instead of creating a new one. If I delete the entry for the last partition on the disk, using fdisk, and then create a new one that starts at the same place but ends at the end of the disk, all should be good I think :-) fingers crossed (hey, if it breaks anything I can always just 'dd' the image back again, hehe). I'd be very interested to know how this works out for you. I tried doing it that way once and made a mess. It might be better to use the 'parted' utility to change the size of the partition on the destination disk. There is a 'parted' boot diskette available too. http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/parted/ One other point that I forgot about earlier is that if your source disk is about to die, it could well have errors. Therefore it might be a very good idea to do a fsck on it, or on the mirrored file-system after you have copied it over using dd. I suppose it's a matter for debate when you do the check. -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell NB. This PC runs Linux. If you find a virus apparently from me, it has forged the e-mail headers on someone else's machine. Please do not notify me when this occurs. Thanks.
Re: usind dd to clone hard drive
On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 08:49, gjw49 wrote: Just out of interest, is there any reason why it shouldn't work going from a smaller hard disk to a larger hard disk? I have no reason, but I would not do it none the less :) I would just DD the disk to a file on the larger disk and mount the image through a loopback device. (It'll save space.) -- Michael JasonSmith http://www.ldots.org/
Re: usind dd to clone hard drive
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:16:23 +1200 Michael JasonSmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 08:49, gjw49 wrote: Just out of interest, is there any reason why it shouldn't work going from a smaller hard disk to a larger hard disk? I have no reason, but I would not do it none the less :) I would just DD the disk to a file on the larger disk and mount the image through a loopback device. (It'll save space.) yes but i think we wants to move the entire OS and data to the new drive permanently. -- Michael JasonSmith http://www.ldots.org/ -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: flashcard reader
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Quick note to say that the 7-in-1 card reader from flashcards.co.nz works like a charme (well, with CF, didn't test others). All hardware should be like that: plug in, computer beeps, icon appears on desktop, clicking icon shows all the files in the file manager. Right click icon, unmount, unplug, finished. Doesn't do that on my RH 9. I had a fiddle with automount/autofs, but didn't get it going in the time I had. We're upgrading to Mandrake 10 here at work, so I'll borrow the CD's and install that at home too. Hopefully that will be better. I might be a RH - Mandrake convert :-) I'm not going back to RedHat/Fedora in a hurry anyway. I switched to RH from Slackware at about RH 4-5 because it was better. Now, it looks like Mandrake's turn. No Gentoo for me yet. Not with a 56k modem, and not much time to fiddle. Cheers, Carl.
Re: FW: Canterbury Linux Users Group
Hi Bjorn CLUG, Is it not appropriate for us to notify on the group website the (few) upcoming meeting dates? Namely: Thurs 6 May ( Weds 30 June) at the Sydenham Community Centre hall. If there is no momentum for newbie support around these, then I will sadly to let it go too. Cheers ~/newbieadvocate/rik Bjorn Nilsen wrote: Hi Margaret, Looks good, we are currently not running regular meetings, I think it would be best to change the Times/Meetings to Meeting times are posted on the mailing list. Other members may have further input, so I have CC'd this to the mailing list. cheers, Bjorn Hi, Are you able to help Cheers Margaret -Original Message- From: Pester, Margaret Sent: Monday, 15 March 2004 1:05 p.m. To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:Canterbury Linux Users Group Hello, I would like to update the CINCH record for the above organisation on our community database. If you visit the link below, this will lead you to the organisation's record. Would you mind checking and advising any additions and alterations by completing our online update form: http://library.christchurch.org.nz/cinch/update/ http://library.christchurch.org.nz/Cinch/keyword.asp?LN++AAB-4725 Many thanks Margaret Pester CINCH Assistant Digital Library Services, Christchurch City Libraries PO Box 1466, Christchurch 8015 DDI: 03-941-7903 Fax: 03-941-7848 Web page: http://library.christchurch.org.nz/cinch/ ** This electronic email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the Christchurch City Council. If you are not the correct recipient of this email please advise the sender and delete. Christchurch City Council http://www.ccc.govt.nz ** -- InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz/linux.html i686 2.4.20-8
Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:35:09 +1200 InfoHelp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is no momentum for newbie support around these, then I will sadly to let it go too. not sure what you are meaning? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group
Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:35:09 +1200 InfoHelp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is no momentum for newbie support around these, then I will sadly to let it go too. not sure what you are meaning? then I will sadly let it go too: any attachment to the tradition of regular, organised, face-to-face Linux newbie support via Canterbury Linux Users Group. The human interface? The public institution being edited down in CINCH? A place where newbies know they can show up to learn about Linux? I thought that was what we were about. My mistake? Times change we must change with them? ... not sure myself! ;-) Nothing complicated. Simplicity. Open code -- InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz/linux.html i686 2.4.20-8
Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group
InfoHelp wrote: then I will sadly let it go too: any attachment to the tradition of regular, organised, face-to-face Linux newbie support via Canterbury Linux Users Group. The human interface? The public institution being edited down in CINCH? A place where newbies know they can show up to learn about Linux? I thought that was what we were about. My mistake? Times change we must change with them? ... not sure myself! ;-) Nothing complicated. Simplicity. Open code I still not understand exactly what you are talking about. Am I dim-witted, or does that just not make much coherent sense? Cheers, Carl.
Wanted: Advice on PDAs
I concur - my pipedream machine would be an ipaq with bluetooth and wireless ethernet, and a decent folding keyboard. Michael - thanks for the link, now theres another place to drool over gear :-\ -Original Message- From: Michael JasonSmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 23 March 2004 4:19 p.m. To: linux users Subject: Re: Wanted: Advice on PDAs On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 21:55, Jamie Dobbs wrote: (as would some kind of keyboard input Keyboards for PDAs http://www.suntekstore.com/pda-keyboards.html I never can get the hang of those special ways of writing for input!). Unistrokes can take a while to get used to, but it is fairly fast. The high-end PDAs (such as the HP iPaq and Sony Ericsson P900) have fairly good handwriting recognition now, so you do not have to learn any funky letters :) -- Michael JasonSmith http://www.ldots.org/
Wanted: Advice on PDAs
Dunno about all that, but I've got an old M100 palm (2 Mb ram) and I've never used the windows software... I simply installed jpilot and off we go. If you go Palm theres no syncing worries with either OS. As for MP3 and screens, that's hardware on the device. -Original Message- From: Jamie Dobbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 22 March 2004 9:55 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Wanted: Advice on PDAs I'm thinking about getting a PDA and want the following features: Colour/HiRes screen MP3 Playback Ability to Sync to Linux(home)and Windows(work) I don't really want to spend much more than about $500-$700 on such a device and would welcome any first hand experience and advice. Links to reviews/specs etc. would also be very handy (as would some kind of keyboard input as I never can get the hang of those special ways of writing for input!). Thanks Jamie -- Sweet April showers do spring May flowers. -- Thomas Tusser
OT - laptop advice
Warehouse Stationery has the Toshiba A10 Satellite for $1700ish +GST Its legacy free with one PCMCIA slot, 30 Gb drive, 256 Mb ram (shared) etc Theres a miniPCI wireless option, but I don't know about price or linux support. -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 23 March 2004 7:03 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - laptop advice I have heard Acer's have reasonable linux capability, and there are some around the $2k mark (but they may only have 256M RAM at that price. The latest NZ PC World has a comparison of under $2.5k laptops. good sites for compatibilty reports is http://www.linux-laptop.net and http://www.tuxmobil.org . On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:48, anton wrote: Hi, As we are shortly going overseas we want to get a laptop. I have searched around for a bit now and have found some places that look like they might not be so bad. We want to spend under $2000, and the only real stipulation is that the processor is over 2k and there is 512meg of RAM. I am never going to have a machine with less than 512 again! Any help or advice here would be greatly appreciated. I have heard plenty about making sure that linux will run on these things before buying. Is that still necessary with the latest ones? If I find mention of someone installing on the same model on the 'net, should I trust it? (seeing as there are two 'net places I'm looking at buying from)? What are the things that just MUST be on the thing? In terms of slots and what have you...? Showing my knowledge here... Do all modern laptops have PCMCIA slots? Is that why they aren't mentioned on most ads? Anything else? A little closer to home here, for those who might know - ITS canterbury uni have laptops with the above specs for around $1900, and they appear to be OSless (or with some campus agreement M$ deal). There seems to be something about CTA mentioned there - does that mean that only CTA students/staff (which I am) can get them? How do they stack up in terms of slots/compatibility? Anyone don't a linux install on one? I would prefer to give Canty money if I could! Thanks for any suggestions Anton
Recommendations for ADSL modem/switch
Dunno about it, but www.ascent.co.nz has a Billion 7100S ADSL Router for $131 At that price you can have a separate switch. -Original Message- From: Tom Munro Glass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 23 March 2004 5:33 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Recommendations for ADSL modem/switch It seems that JetStream has finally made it over the Ports Hills and is available in Governors Bay! So I'm looking for recommendations for an ADSL modem / 4-port 10/100Mbps switch combination. I've heard good things about the NetGear DG834, anyone around here used this? Regards, Tom Munro Glass
Re: Gentoo Installfest
Count me in when starting please, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 15:53, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: I can provide a couple of 2GHz P4 laptops for distcc My son Caleb can bring an AthlonXP-2500+ I can provide a p2 400 as well if needed, on which I could put about 2 GB of distfiles of various vintages, in particular the latest current kde-base, and similar ltsp. To say nothing of the current Portage tree. From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2004 3:52 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Gentoo Installfest 1. you DEFINITELY need a fast internet connection to do this, so the sydenham hall is out (wireless? satellite?) 2. co-incidentally I just started working on another distcc boot-cd yesterday. will advise progress in due course. On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 15:08:21 +1200 Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that Sydenham Hall would have more room for greater numbers but it will cost us (a little) and it is good to have a decent link to the www. Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: InfoHelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2004 3:01 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Gentoo Installfest That's why Sydenham was being suggested for numbers 6+ : shops, McD's, parking.. A poll of enthusiast numbers decides - add one for me. Robert Fisher wrote: I may live to regret this but here goes If the numbers for another Gentoo Installfest are small (say 4 to 6 at the most), and Nick or someone can set up an rsync server I would be prepared to have it in our garage at home. I have a switch and a Jetstart connection and everything is at ground level. (No offence David but your stairs are not very welcoming when carrying computer equipment) Shopping centre is nearby for food. -- Robert Fisher www.fisher.net.nz Regards ~/rik PS thanks Chris for this idea. No problems, I'd like to help. Make a nice day out. All best wishes: P4-2.66G for distcc. ~/newbie/rik -- InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz/linux.html i686 2.4.20-8
Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group
The public meetings give newbies a chance to 'sucksee' Linux. The loss of public meetings is a loss to Linux advocacy. Simple? Learning... Carl Cerecke wrote: InfoHelp wrote: then I will sadly let it go too: any attachment to the tradition of regular, organised, face-to-face Linux newbie support via Canterbury Linux Users Group. The human interface? The public institution being edited down in CINCH? A place where newbies know they can show up to learn about Linux? I thought that was what we were about. My mistake? Times change we must change with them? ... not sure myself! ;-) Nothing complicated. Simplicity. Open code I still not understand exactly what you are talking about. Am I dim-witted, or does that just not make much coherent sense? Cheers, Carl. -- InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz/linux.html i686 2.4.20-8
RE: usind dd to clone hard drive
You can't boot from a loopback file... can you? Something along the lines of root=/dev/hda1/bigfile.dd ? -Original Message- From: Michael JasonSmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 March 2004 10:16 a.m. To: linux users Subject: Re: usind dd to clone hard drive On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 08:49, gjw49 wrote: Just out of interest, is there any reason why it shouldn't work going from a smaller hard disk to a larger hard disk? I have no reason, but I would not do it none the less :) I would just DD the disk to a file on the larger disk and mount the image through a loopback device. (It'll save space.) -- Michael JasonSmith http://www.ldots.org/
RE: Recommendations for ADSL modem/switch
Upon further reading, the Puretek modem has no firewall, only NAT. The Billion does have firewall support. -Original Message- From: Brad Beveridge Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 11:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Recommendations for ADSL modem/switch Well, they don't have it in stock :) Any reason not to go for the cheaper Puretek PT-3813? Router, switch, webinterface. Brad -Original Message- From: Craig FALCONER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 11:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Recommendations for ADSL modem/switch Dunno about it, but www.ascent.co.nz has a Billion 7100S ADSL Router for $131 At that price you can have a separate switch. -Original Message- From: Tom Munro Glass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 23 March 2004 5:33 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Recommendations for ADSL modem/switch It seems that JetStream has finally made it over the Ports Hills and is available in Governors Bay! So I'm looking for recommendations for an ADSL modem / 4-port 10/100Mbps switch combination. I've heard good things about the NetGear DG834, anyone around here used this? Regards, Tom Munro Glass
RE: usind dd to clone hard drive
On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 11:42, Craig FALCONER wrote: You can't boot from a loopback file... can you? Technically, I suppose you could by loading the disk into a ramdisk and booting from that. I do not think it would be easy :). -- Michael JasonSmith http://www.ldots.org/
Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group
Fair comment re meeting work Carl, The ones arranged for 6 May and 30 June (optional) are available for CLUG to utilise as it sees fit. Maybe they won't fly at all. But if Volker remains willing to guide us through some new material, then we do have a start for stimulating interest. Carl Cerecke wrote: InfoHelp wrote: The public meetings give newbies a chance to 'sucksee' Linux. The loss of public meetings is a loss to Linux advocacy. Simple? yes. Do I agree? Maybe; maybe not. The loss of public meetings reflects a disinterest in organising them, most likely stemming from the difficulty getting them organised. As Linux gets more popular, more mainstream, meetings may well decrease. True, but is this the cause? My experience of userworld Linux is that its main obstacle is that nobody* has heard of it. *=General public. Expansion of the userbase to the point of common knowledge is certainly what we want. How many MS Windows meetings are held in Chch? (Ones organised by the users only, not some Corporate). There is, I think, an apple users group that meets regularly. But that only helps to prove my point :-) Any member of this list is free to organise their own Linux-related meeting and advertise it on the list. No one will stop you. Before anybody laments the loss of public Linux meetings, they should organise at least a handful. Cheers, Carl. Waikato is looking like a better place to be for Linux learners: http://www.wlug.org.nz/MeetingTopics.2004-02-18 Regards, Rik. -- InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz/linux.html i686 2.4.20-8
RE: Gentoo Installfest
I believe that makes two. Correct? Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: InfoHelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 March 2004 11:41 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Gentoo Installfest Count me in when starting please, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 15:53, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: I can provide a couple of 2GHz P4 laptops for distcc My son Caleb can bring an AthlonXP-2500+ I can provide a p2 400 as well if needed, on which I could put about 2 GB of distfiles of various vintages, in particular the latest current kde-base, and similar ltsp. To say nothing of the current Portage tree. From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2004 3:52 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gentoo Installfest 1. you DEFINITELY need a fast internet connection to do this, so the sydenham hall is out (wireless? satellite?) 2. co-incidentally I just started working on another distcc boot-cd yesterday. will advise progress in due course. On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 15:08:21 +1200 Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that Sydenham Hall would have more room for greater numbers but it will cost us (a little) and it is good to have a decent link to the www. Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From:InfoHelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:Thursday, 25 March 2004 3:01 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gentoo Installfest That's why Sydenham was being suggested for numbers 6+ : shops, McD's, parking.. A poll of enthusiast numbers decides - add one for me. Robert Fisher wrote: I may live to regret this but here goes If the numbers for another Gentoo Installfest are small (say 4 to 6 at the most), and Nick or someone can set up an rsync server I would be prepared to have it in our garage at home. I have a switch and a Jetstart connection and everything is at ground level. (No offence David but your stairs are not very welcoming when carrying computer equipment) Shopping centre is nearby for food. -- Robert Fisher www.fisher.net.nz Regards ~/rik PS thanks Chris for this idea. No problems, I'd like to help. Make a nice day out. All best wishes: P4-2.66G for distcc. ~/newbie/rik -- InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz/linux.html i686 2.4.20-8
Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:43, InfoHelp wrote: The public meetings give newbies a chance to 'sucksee' Linux. But that's not the _only_ reason for having CLUG. The loss of public meetings is a loss to Linux advocacy. True. Simple? No, There is a great deal more to our club and mail list than merely being an advocacy channel for Linux. Today's discussions on the list bear that out. Cloning disks is not newbie stuff at all. Learning... Yes, but at more that just the introductory levels. [ ... incoherent nonsense ... ] -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell NB. This PC runs Linux. If you find a virus apparently from me, it has forged the e-mail headers on someone else's machine. Please do not notify me when this occurs. Thanks.
RE: Canterbury Linux Users Group
Who said we were losing our meetings? Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: InfoHelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 March 2004 11:44 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group The public meetings give newbies a chance to 'sucksee' Linux. The loss of public meetings is a loss to Linux advocacy. Simple? Learning... Carl Cerecke wrote: InfoHelp wrote: then I will sadly let it go too: any attachment to the tradition of regular, organised, face-to-face Linux newbie support via Canterbury Linux Users Group. The human interface? The public institution being edited down in CINCH? A place where newbies know they can show up to learn about Linux? I thought that was what we were about. My mistake? Times change we must change with them? ... not sure myself! ;-) Nothing complicated. Simplicity. Open code I still not understand exactly what you are talking about. Am I dim-witted, or does that just not make much coherent sense? Cheers, Carl. -- InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz/linux.html i686 2.4.20-8
Re: Recommendations for ADSL modem/switch
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:48, Brad Beveridge wrote: Upon further reading, the Puretek modem has no firewall, only NAT. The Billion does have firewall support. I'm probably going to run IPCop behind the router anyway, but I figured that two firewalls are better than one, and the reason for wanting an integrated switch is so that I have the option of using it as a DMZ. The Billion prices are certainly attractive and Ascent should be getting more in a few days - anyone used them or heard any comments about them? Tom
Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group
Great! They are still on for the future then? Keen to help organise a timetable topics, ~/newbie/rik Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: Who said we were losing our meetings? Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -- InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz/linux.html i686 2.4.20-8
Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group
On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 11:53, Carl Cerecke wrote: How many MS Windows meetings are held in Chch? (Ones organised by the users only, not some Corporate) Well, most medium-sized computer-equipped offices function as self-help user groups for Windows. It's the small businesses with only one computer that suffer ... There is, I think, an apple users group that meets regularly. But that only helps to prove my point :-) Apple Users Group of Canterbury meets monthly, has a turn-out of around 50 people each meeting, a paid-up membership of more than double that, a monthly newsletter, a 'net-connected bulletin board system that gateways with a very large Australian Apple Users Group, a public mailing list and a healthy bank balance assisted by careful applications to grants authorities for things like VGA Projectors, c. However, helping to prove Carl's point, it is very much a collection of people trying to _use_ their machines, not particularly to understand the inner workings. Any member of this list is free to organise their own Linux-related meeting and advertise it on the list. No one will stop you. Before anybody laments the loss of public Linux meetings, they should organise at least a handful. There seems to be a perception that because there is a Users Group, that it should have some responsible people to organise things. But we know that's not true ... Anyway, how does a beginner organise a beginner's help session? I've seen mutually-reinforcing beginners try to learn things, they end up like Skinner's pidgeons, reinforcing all sorts of odd ideas. I don't like to see that ... -jim
Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group
Look we had some discussion at the beginning of the year as to what people wanted. there was no coherent body of opinion as to what was wanted. There was talk of an installfest in March, then April then May. However no-one has actually done anything. (BTW this is not the gentoo installfest being discussed in the last couple of days). This upcoming suse demo by volker is an example of doing something ad-hoc when the need or opportunity arises. To summarise last year, we booked meetings every month. we ran out of people who were prepared to speak at meetings. we ran out of people who wanted stuff fixed at fixit nights. Its pretty tough going organising meetings against those sort of odds. I have personally spoken to at least three meetings (once on email, once on midnight commander, once on gentoo), helped organise the meetings where Martin Baehr and the etherboot guy spoke (sorry forgotten his name momentarily), organised the movie night with revolution OS shown, organised dinner at the 2 fat Indians, spent hours developing a distcc-bootcd for the gentoo installfest last year, and lots of other stuff besides. I don't want a medal, its just that its disappointing when we run out of speakers, and run out of people who want to turn up to workshops. There are plenty of people out there who do lots, probably more than me. If people are upset at the lack of meetings they should get off their ass and organise it. like Rik is. Good on you Rik. (Robert this email isn't aimed at you, I just happened to reply at your point in the thread)
Re: Gentoo Installfest
True, redundant iteration. apologies: 1 = 1 :-) Regards, Rik Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: I believe that makes two. Correct? Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: InfoHelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 March 2004 11:41 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gentoo Installfest Count me in when starting please, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 15:53, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: I can provide a couple of 2GHz P4 laptops for distcc My son Caleb can bring an AthlonXP-2500+ I can provide a p2 400 as well if needed, on which I could put about 2 GB of distfiles of various vintages, in particular the latest current kde-base, and similar ltsp. To say nothing of the current Portage tree. From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2004 3:52 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Gentoo Installfest 1. you DEFINITELY need a fast internet connection to do this, so the sydenham hall is out (wireless? satellite?) 2. co-incidentally I just started working on another distcc boot-cd yesterday. will advise progress in due course. On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 15:08:21 +1200 Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that Sydenham Hall would have more room for greater numbers but it will cost us (a little) and it is good to have a decent link to the www. Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: InfoHelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2004 3:01 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Gentoo Installfest That's why Sydenham was being suggested for numbers 6+ : shops, McD's, parking.. A poll of enthusiast numbers decides - add one for me. Robert Fisher wrote: I may live to regret this but here goes If the numbers for another Gentoo Installfest are small (say 4 to 6 at the most), and Nick or someone can set up an rsync server I would be prepared to have it in our garage at home. I have a switch and a Jetstart connection and everything is at ground level. (No offence David but your stairs are not very welcoming when carrying computer equipment) Shopping centre is nearby for food. -- Robert Fisher www.fisher.net.nz Regards ~/rik PS thanks Chris for this idea. No problems, I'd like to help. Make a nice day out. All best wishes: P4-2.66G for distcc. ~/newbie/rik -- InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz/linux.html i686 2.4.20-8
Re: Gentoo Installfest
OK so is that two who want an install or two who have machines to offer for compiling help? It may be a little OTT to set up something for two installs. So who wants to install gentoo. I do recommend it! And there is a lot of experience in it on the list now. lets hope it doesn't snow this time! Rob's garage may get a leeetle chilly! Nick (wearing my gentoo sweatshirt which arrived from the US yesterday, its a nicer colour than yours Brad :-P ) On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 12:47:58 +1200 InfoHelp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, redundant iteration. apologies: 1 = 1
RE: Gentoo Installfest
Hey, just remember from whom you got the idea to get that shirt! As to the GenInstall, my thoughts would be that punters would be best getting a GRP install done, with KDE, X, etc going. Then a session on using emerge to maintain your distro. The settings are the hard part to get right that is what time should be spent on, not waiting for compiles. Not matter how big a compile farm you have, compiling still takes a long, long time - and it can be done off line later without the support of others. Brad -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 12:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gentoo Installfest OK so is that two who want an install or two who have machines to offer for compiling help? It may be a little OTT to set up something for two installs. So who wants to install gentoo. I do recommend it! And there is a lot of experience in it on the list now. lets hope it doesn't snow this time! Rob's garage may get a leeetle chilly! Nick (wearing my gentoo sweatshirt which arrived from the US yesterday, its a nicer colour than yours Brad :-P ) On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 12:47:58 +1200 InfoHelp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, redundant iteration. apologies: 1 = 1
Re: Gentoo Installfest
Yeah exactly what i did with the lappie last week, give it the binaries to get it workable, then compile the updates at your leisure. true you could spend a long session on the workings of emerge etcat qpkg etc etc. Probably a good idea. to do it just as you suggest. anyway we need some numbers to make it worthwhile. i am off to lunch and will expect 20 registrations by 2 pm :-) On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 12:58:56 +1200 Brad Beveridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, just remember from whom you got the idea to get that shirt! As to the GenInstall, my thoughts would be that punters would be best getting a GRP install done, with KDE, X, etc going. Then a session on using emerge to maintain your distro. The settings are the hard part to get right that is what time should be spent on, not waiting for compiles. Not matter how big a compile farm you have, compiling still takes a long, long time - and it can be done off line later without the support of others. Brad -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 12:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gentoo Installfest OK so is that two who want an install or two who have machines to offer for compiling help? It may be a little OTT to set up something for two installs. So who wants to install gentoo. I do recommend it! And there is a lot of experience in it on the list now. lets hope it doesn't snow this time! Rob's garage may get a leeetle chilly! Nick (wearing my gentoo sweatshirt which arrived from the US yesterday, its a nicer colour than yours Brad :-P ) On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 12:47:58 +1200 InfoHelp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, redundant iteration. apologies: 1 = 1 -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Canterbury Linux Users Group
No offence taken at all Nick. Basically what I meant was exactly what you put more eloquently. That is, there has not, as far as I understand, been a conscious decision not to have meetings, just that, as you said, we need topics, speakers and attendees. No point having meetings if we do not need them - but if a good opportunity arises then we should jump at it. I converted to Gentoo after Nick's talk, I converted to k3B after Jason's talk, I set up LTSP at home after Chris's talk. If there are newbies out there who don't know what they don't know then maybe we could repeat some of the earlier presentations. OR - If the local Linux users are mature enough not to need any more presentations then maybe we have to recognise that as well. Did you know that the $2 shop is having a half price sale at the moment? Rob -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 March 2004 12:46 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group Look we had some discussion at the beginning of the year as to what people wanted. there was no coherent body of opinion as to what was wanted. There was talk of an installfest in March, then April then May. However no-one has actually done anything. (BTW this is not the gentoo installfest being discussed in the last couple of days). This upcoming suse demo by volker is an example of doing something ad-hoc when the need or opportunity arises. To summarise last year, we booked meetings every month. we ran out of people who were prepared to speak at meetings. we ran out of people who wanted stuff fixed at fixit nights. Its pretty tough going organising meetings against those sort of odds. I have personally spoken to at least three meetings (once on email, once on midnight commander, once on gentoo), helped organise the meetings where Martin Baehr and the etherboot guy spoke (sorry forgotten his name momentarily), organised the movie night with revolution OS shown, organised dinner at the 2 fat Indians, spent hours developing a distcc-bootcd for the gentoo installfest last year, and lots of other stuff besides. I don't want a medal, its just that its disappointing when we run out of speakers, and run out of people who want to turn up to workshops. There are plenty of people out there who do lots, probably more than me. If people are upset at the lack of meetings they should get off their ass and organise it. like Rik is. Good on you Rik. (Robert this email isn't aimed at you, I just happened to reply at your point in the thread)
RE: Gentoo Installfest
There was another punter yesterday. 1+1=2 Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: InfoHelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 March 2004 12:48 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Gentoo Installfest True, redundant iteration. apologies: 1 = 1 :-) Regards, Rik Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: I believe that makes two. Correct? Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: InfoHelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 March 2004 11:41 a.m. To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gentoo Installfest Count me in when starting please, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 15:53, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: I can provide a couple of 2GHz P4 laptops for distcc My son Caleb can bring an AthlonXP-2500+ I can provide a p2 400 as well if needed, on which I could put about 2 GB of distfiles of various vintages, in particular the latest current kde-base, and similar ltsp. To say nothing of the current Portage tree. From:Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:Thursday, 25 March 2004 3:52 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gentoo Installfest 1. you DEFINITELY need a fast internet connection to do this, so the sydenham hall is out (wireless? satellite?) 2. co-incidentally I just started working on another distcc boot-cd yesterday. will advise progress in due course. On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 15:08:21 +1200 Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that Sydenham Hall would have more room for greater numbers but it will cost us (a little) and it is good to have a decent link to the www. Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: InfoHelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2004 3:01 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Gentoo Installfest That's why Sydenham was being suggested for numbers 6+ : shops, McD's, parking.. A poll of enthusiast numbers decides - add one for me. Robert Fisher wrote: I may live to regret this but here goes If the numbers for another Gentoo Installfest are small (say 4 to 6 at the most), and Nick or someone can set up an rsync server I would be prepared to have it in our garage at home. I have a switch and a Jetstart connection and everything is at ground level. (No offence David but your stairs are not very welcoming when carrying computer equipment) Shopping centre is nearby for food. -- Robert Fisher www.fisher.net.nz Regards ~/rik PS thanks Chris for this idea. No problems, I'd like to help. Make a nice day out. All best wishes: P4-2.66G for distcc. ~/newbie/rik -- InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz/linux.html i686 2.4.20-8
RE: Gentoo Installfest
There is a good Indian takeaway just up the road from my place to warm you up. -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 March 2004 12:55 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Gentoo Installfest OK so is that two who want an install or two who have machines to offer for compiling help? It may be a little OTT to set up something for two installs. So who wants to install gentoo. I do recommend it! And there is a lot of experience in it on the list now. lets hope it doesn't snow this time! Rob's garage may get a leeetle chilly! Nick (wearing my gentoo sweatshirt which arrived from the US yesterday, its a nicer colour than yours Brad :-P ) On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 12:47:58 +1200 InfoHelp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, redundant iteration. apologies: 1 = 1
Re: Gentoo Installfest
Nick Rout wrote: So who wants to install gentoo. I do recommend it! And there is a lot of experience in it on the list now. Depending on what times things are happening I'd be keen to give it a shot. My specs should probably work (they go fine with knoppix): AsusA7N8X-X mobo AthlonXP 2600+ NVidia GeForce2 32mg video Genius GF100TXR4 lan And pretty standard CD/HDDs... Thanks, -- Chris.
Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group
Cheers Jim, Jim Cheetham wrote: Anyway, how does a beginner organise a beginner's help session? I've seen mutually-reinforcing beginners try to learn things, they end up like Skinner's pidgeons, reinforcing all sorts of odd ideas. I don't like to see that ... -jim An 'holistic' progression might be that the skilled, busy guys can be supplemented by those 'aspiring to vaunted status', who'd contribute their (more available) time to bring the presentations together. Symbiotic growth. Jobs for trainees. Structure..? Similarly, a healthy balance of private public interest seems necessary to challenge for the desktop. Access training are key. Regards, Rik -- InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz/linux.html i686 2.4.20-8
Re: using dd to clone hard drive
Craig FALCONER wrote: I've done this with my new laptop drive, and I dd'd partitions rather than the drive. However, my old linux partition was 2 Gb, the new one is 8 Gb, but I can't see how to increase the size without reformatting... Anyone done this before? isn't that what Gnu Parted does? Mind you I've never used it
RE: Gentoo Installfest
When and where? (I don't know where Robert's garage lives :) Cheers Don -Original Message- From: Robert Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 2:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gentoo Installfest I may live to regret this but here goes If the numbers for another Gentoo Installfest are small (say 4 to 6 at the most), and Nick or someone can set up an rsync server I would be prepared to have it in our garage at home. I have a switch and a Jetstart connection and everything is at ground level. (No offence David but your stairs are not very welcoming when carrying computer equipment) Shopping centre is nearby for food. -- Robert Fisher www.fisher.net.nz
Re: using dd to clone hard drive
On 26 Mar 2004 at 12:27, Patrick Dunford wrote: Craig FALCONER wrote: I've done this with my new laptop drive, and I dd'd partitions rather than the drive. However, my old linux partition was 2 Gb, the new one is 8 Gb, but I can't see how to increase the size without reformatting... Anyone done this before? isn't that what Gnu Parted does? Mind you I've never used it To resize partition with Parted: parted /dev/hda1 h (for options) p (to print out table) resize 1 0 8000 Might be easier to partition new disk up first then copy over. You can also copy partitions over from disk to disk (I can't remember how right now) man parted ;-) Note. Parted is usually run as root. Regards, Dale.
RE: Gentoo Installfest
If you are a starter Don then I think that makes 5 which would be almost the limit in the garage anyway. If others can help (servers, expertise etc.) I can be flexible for the date - most Saturdays except Easter. I can supply the garage, the switch and the connection to www (soon to be 256kbs) Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: Don Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 March 2004 3:26 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: Gentoo Installfest When and where? (I don't know where Robert's garage lives :) Cheers Don -Original Message- From: Robert Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 2:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gentoo Installfest I may live to regret this but here goes If the numbers for another Gentoo Installfest are small (say 4 to 6 at the most), and Nick or someone can set up an rsync server I would be prepared to have it in our garage at home. I have a switch and a Jetstart connection and everything is at ground level. (No offence David but your stairs are not very welcoming when carrying computer equipment) Shopping centre is nearby for food. -- Robert Fisher www.fisher.net.nz
RE: Gentoo Installfest
ya, I'm a starter. Don't have transport so anyone heading your way from Riccarton would be most appricated. Cheers Don -Original Message- From: Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 3:42 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Gentoo Installfest If you are a starter Don then I think that makes 5 which would be almost the limit in the garage anyway. If others can help (servers, expertise etc.) I can be flexible for the date - most Saturdays except Easter. I can supply the garage, the switch and the connection to www (soon to be 256kbs) Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: Don Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 March 2004 3:26 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Gentoo Installfest When and where? (I don't know where Robert's garage lives :) Cheers Don -Original Message- From: Robert Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 2:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gentoo Installfest I may live to regret this but here goes If the numbers for another Gentoo Installfest are small (say 4 to 6 at the most), and Nick or someone can set up an rsync server I would be prepared to have it in our garage at home. I have a switch and a Jetstart connection and everything is at ground level. (No offence David but your stairs are not very welcoming when carrying computer equipment) Shopping centre is nearby for food. -- Robert Fisher www.fisher.net.nz
RE: Gentoo Installfest
Question: ... What are the OSTC facialities used for on weekends? I would have thought that resource would have been ideal for this sort of thing? (David?) Cheers Don -Original Message- From: Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 3:42 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Gentoo Installfest If you are a starter Don then I think that makes 5 which would be almost the limit in the garage anyway. If others can help (servers, expertise etc.) I can be flexible for the date - most Saturdays except Easter. I can supply the garage, the switch and the connection to www (soon to be 256kbs) Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: Don Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 March 2004 3:26 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Gentoo Installfest When and where? (I don't know where Robert's garage lives :) Cheers Don -Original Message- From: Robert Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 2:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gentoo Installfest I may live to regret this but here goes If the numbers for another Gentoo Installfest are small (say 4 to 6 at the most), and Nick or someone can set up an rsync server I would be prepared to have it in our garage at home. I have a switch and a Jetstart connection and everything is at ground level. (No offence David but your stairs are not very welcoming when carrying computer equipment) Shopping centre is nearby for food. -- Robert Fisher www.fisher.net.nz
Re: Gentoo Installfest
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:59, Don Gould wrote: Question: ... What are the OSTC facialities used for on weekends? Fitness enhancement by young men carrying loads computer equipment up and down about 6 flights of stairs. :-) -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell NB. This PC runs Linux. If you find a virus apparently from me, it has forged the e-mail headers on someone else's machine. Please do not notify me when this occurs. Thanks.
RE: Gentoo Installfest
I agree - but see the beginning of this thread - parking and stairs can be a bit tough. I made the offer for up to 6 installations in my garage. Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: Don Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 March 2004 4:00 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: Gentoo Installfest Question: ... What are the OSTC facialities used for on weekends? I would have thought that resource would have been ideal for this sort of thing? (David?) Cheers Don -Original Message- From: Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 3:42 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Gentoo Installfest If you are a starter Don then I think that makes 5 which would be almost the limit in the garage anyway. If others can help (servers, expertise etc.) I can be flexible for the date - most Saturdays except Easter. I can supply the garage, the switch and the connection to www (soon to be 256kbs) Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: Don Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 March 2004 3:26 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Gentoo Installfest When and where? (I don't know where Robert's garage lives :) Cheers Don -Original Message- From: Robert Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 2:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gentoo Installfest I may live to regret this but here goes If the numbers for another Gentoo Installfest are small (say 4 to 6 at the most), and Nick or someone can set up an rsync server I would be prepared to have it in our garage at home. I have a switch and a Jetstart connection and everything is at ground level. (No offence David but your stairs are not very welcoming when carrying computer equipment) Shopping centre is nearby for food. -- Robert Fisher www.fisher.net.nz
Re: flashcard reader
Carl Cerecke wrote: Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Quick note to say that the 7-in-1 card reader from flashcards.co.nz works like a charme (well, with CF, didn't test others). All hardware should be like that: plug in, computer beeps, icon appears on desktop, clicking icon shows all the files in the file manager. Right click icon, unmount, unplug, finished. Doesn't do that on my RH 9. I had a fiddle with automount/autofs, but didn't get it going in the time I had. We're upgrading to Mandrake 10 here at work, so I'll borrow the CD's and install that at home too. Hopefully that will be better. I might be a RH - Mandrake convert :-) I'm not going back to RedHat/Fedora in a hurry anyway. I switched to RH from Slackware at about RH 4-5 because it was better. Now, it looks like Mandrake's turn. No Gentoo for me yet. Not with a 56k modem, and not much time to fiddle. Then do NOT install Mandrake 10 until the proper release comes out! Unless you want to play a little Russian roulette. The lists are replete with most unhappy chappies... Cheers Anton
Laptop purchased
Hi everyone, Just bought a Compaq/HP 2548 2.6gig celeron 256meg upgraded to 512meg for $1870 including gst (RAM was $90 installed). It also came with a free printer, which we have on trademe as I write! I am fairly certain we will sell it for over $70 (had an offer from someone else if no one bids the reserve which is that...) which means the laptop - 2.6gig, 512 RAM, combo drive and 15 screen for under $1800. If anyone else is looking for a laptop then I would jump on this deal, I am sure it won't last long (HP giving away printers with this model). I bought it from TasTech computers (tastech.co.nz) from one of the most laid back geezers I've ever come across. Dude! Real good bloke though cos getting it from anywhere else would have been a major PITA or much more expensive. Cheers Anton
