Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[Abhinav Keswani]

2009/9/11 John Carter :
> On Fri, 11 Sep 2009, Abhinav Keswani wrote:
>> hash bang slash bin slash bash
>
> Too long winded..
>
>  hash bang bin bash
>
> is a bit more, umm, punchy.

ohhh you want punchy instead of accurate?  :)

try this one then

shebang[1] bin bash

how does that rate on your punchometer?

Happy Friday,
-A
@wasabhi

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_%28Unix%29

Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[John Carter]

On Fri, 11 Sep 2009, Abhinav Keswani wrote:


2009/9/10 Jim Cheetham :

But in all cases where strictly unambiguous communication is needed,
I'd say it and spell it, including the slash marks, which will be
introduced as "the forward slash, which is the one on the
question-mark key" (because some Windows people think \ is a forward
slash)



#!/bin/bash

hash bang slash bin slash bash


Too long winded..

  hash bang bin bash

is a bit more, umm, punchy.

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Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[Nick Rout]

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Abhinav Keswani
 wrote:
> 2009/9/10 Jim Cheetham :
>> But in all cases where strictly unambiguous communication is needed,
>> I'd say it and spell it, including the slash marks, which will be
>> introduced as "the forward slash, which is the one on the
>> question-mark key" (because some Windows people think \ is a forward
>> slash)
>
>
> #!/bin/bash
>
> hash bang slash bin slash bash

aitch tee tee pee colon slash slash slashdot dot com

Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[Abhinav Keswani]

2009/9/10 Jim Cheetham :
> But in all cases where strictly unambiguous communication is needed,
> I'd say it and spell it, including the slash marks, which will be
> introduced as "the forward slash, which is the one on the
> question-mark key" (because some Windows people think \ is a forward
> slash)


#!/bin/bash

hash bang slash bin slash bash




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@wasabhi

Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[Jim Cheetham]

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Kent Fredric wrote:
> And to borrow from Rogers question, how do you all pronounce "usr" .

"user" with low inflection, as opposed to "User" with a high
inflection at the beginning to denote the capital.

But in all cases where strictly unambiguous communication is needed,
I'd say it and spell it, including the slash marks, which will be
introduced as "the forward slash, which is the one on the
question-mark key" (because some Windows people think \ is a forward
slash)

-jim

Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[Kent Fredric]

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Roger Searle wrote:


> Only because it was a long time until I heard anyone pronounce it as
> etcetera, having always thought of it internally as the letters.  I have no
> knowledge of the origins of the folder name.
> So to borrow Robert's question from this morning, how would people say the
> folder /etc out loud?
>

And to borrow from Rogers question, how do you all pronounce "usr" .

"bin", "proc" , "sys", "lib", they're all straight forward ( I hope ), but
'usr' has some degree of ambiguity, especially when some platforms ( looking
at you Apple ) have a literal  /User  which is not correspondent to /usr,
and you have to be careful not to enter a disambiguation problem in
communicating this to people because they're likely to put the "e" in there.




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Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[Hadley Rich]

On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:41:23 Mike Gauland wrote:
> More than twenty years ago, my operating systems professor pronounced it
> 'et-see'. I found it grating at first, but it's so much shorter than
> "etcetera", and I found myself picking it up. Now, it sounds just as
> normal as 'grep', 'awk', 'sed', and 'sudo'.

That's how I pronounce it also.

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Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[John Carter]

On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Craig Falconer wrote:


fsck  fissik/eff ess check/eff sik


I dare say all of these things have interest and different
connotations in different languages.

All unixy Afrikaners I knew pronounced "fsck" as "Voertsek" ("V"
having a sort of "F" sound in that language.)

It is an insulting term only appropriate for telling a dog to "get
lost".

When used on humans it's liable to provoke an instant fight.

A useful word, hard for native English speakers to pronounce, but
a grreat one to shout in anger.

"Your disk has been not been cleanly unmounted...(and the system is
going to whirr and click for the next fifteen minutes whilst inanely
insisting you sit there all the time typing y y y y y y)"

AG VVOEERRRTSEK!

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Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[Jim Cheetham]

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Roger Searle wrote:
> So to borrow Robert's question from this morning, how would people say the
> folder /etc out loud?


"E T C" ... so /etc/hosts becomes "E T C hosts"

-jim

Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[Philip Charles]

On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Roger Searle wrote:
> Nick Rout wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Roger Searle
> > mailto:ro...@stepahead.org.nz>> wrote:
> >
> > Craig Falconer wrote:
> >
> > Mind you - we normally type these commands, or read them.
> >  Very rarely do we say them out loud.
> >
> > Others in the same region:
> > fsck  fissik/eff ess check/eff sik
> > gccgee sea sea / ?
> > sshess ess aitch / shhh / shoosh
> > wgetdoubleyou get / wuh-get
> > straceess-strace / strace / street race
> >
> > The one that got me the first time I heard someone say it, and
> > still does, is the folder /etc.  I had always imagined it
> > pronounced as eee tea see, and is how it still is in my head.
> >  Hearing it as "etcetera" is just wrong, to my ear!
> >
> >
> > Why, its a common abbreviation and you don't even have to be a nerd
> > to understand it!
>
> Only because it was a long time until I heard anyone pronounce it as
> etcetera, having always thought of it internally as the letters.  I
> have no knowledge of the origins of the folder name.
>
> So to borrow Robert's question from this morning, how would people say
> the folder /etc out loud?

et-cet

Phil.

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Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[Roger Searle]

Nick Rout wrote:
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Roger Searle > wrote:


Craig Falconer wrote:

Mind you - we normally type these commands, or read them.
 Very rarely do we say them out loud.

Others in the same region:
fsck  fissik/eff ess check/eff sik
gccgee sea sea / ?
sshess ess aitch / shhh / shoosh
wgetdoubleyou get / wuh-get
straceess-strace / strace / street race

The one that got me the first time I heard someone say it, and
still does, is the folder /etc.  I had always imagined it
pronounced as eee tea see, and is how it still is in my head.
 Hearing it as "etcetera" is just wrong, to my ear!


Why, its a common abbreviation and you don't even have to be a nerd to 
understand it!
Only because it was a long time until I heard anyone pronounce it as 
etcetera, having always thought of it internally as the letters.  I have 
no knowledge of the origins of the folder name. 

So to borrow Robert's question from this morning, how would people say 
the folder /etc out loud?

Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[Mike Gauland]

Roger Searle wrote:
> The one that got me the first time I heard someone say it, and still
> does, is the folder /etc.  I had always imagined it pronounced as eee
> tea see, and is how it still is in my head.  Hearing it as "etcetera"
> is just wrong, to my ear!
More than twenty years ago, my operating systems professor pronounced it
'et-see'. I found it grating at first, but it's so much shorter than
"etcetera", and I found myself picking it up. Now, it sounds just as
normal as 'grep', 'awk', 'sed', and 'sudo'.

Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[Nick Rout]

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Roger Searle wrote:

> Craig Falconer wrote:
>
>> Mind you - we normally type these commands, or read them.  Very rarely do
>> we say them out loud.
>>
>> Others in the same region:
>> fsck  fissik/eff ess check/eff sik
>> gccgee sea sea / ?
>> sshess ess aitch / shhh / shoosh
>> wgetdoubleyou get / wuh-get
>> straceess-strace / strace / street race
>>
> The one that got me the first time I heard someone say it, and still does,
> is the folder /etc.  I had always imagined it pronounced as eee tea see, and
> is how it still is in my head.  Hearing it as "etcetera" is just wrong, to
> my ear!
>

Why, its a common abbreviation and you don't even have to be a nerd to
understand it!

Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[Roger Searle]

Craig Falconer wrote:
Mind you - we normally type these commands, or read them.  Very rarely 
do we say them out loud.


Others in the same region:
fsck  fissik/eff ess check/eff sik
gccgee sea sea / ?
sshess ess aitch / shhh / shoosh
wgetdoubleyou get / wuh-get
straceess-strace / strace / street race
The one that got me the first time I heard someone say it, and still 
does, is the folder /etc.  I had always imagined it pronounced as eee 
tea see, and is how it still is in my head.  Hearing it as "etcetera" is 
just wrong, to my ear!


Cheers,
Roger

Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[Robert Fisher]

> Jim Cheetham wrote, On 09/09/09 17:04:
>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Robert Fisher
>> wrote:
>>> So how should it be pronounced?
>>>
>>> soo-doo or soo-dough
>>
>> "S U do"
>
> I concur with Jim - "Ess You Doo"
>
> Mind you - we normally type these commands, or read them.  Very rarely
> do we say them out loud.
>
When I posed the question I wondered if it was a bit silly but it has
prompted some inteligent answers.

Thanks.

Nice to know CLUG is still alive and well.

Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[John Carter]

On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Kent Fredric wrote:

  So how should it be pronounced?

  soo-doo or soo-dough

I pronounce it somewhat akin to

   pseudo

( That is , with a silent p )

Which I guess was part of the joke behind the name. :)


Nah! That would just sound... well, sound, umm, well, 
unauthentic and fake! :-))




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Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[Craig Falconer]

Jim Cheetham wrote, On 09/09/09 17:04:

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Robert Fisher wrote:

So how should it be pronounced?

soo-doo or soo-dough


"S U do"


I concur with Jim - "Ess You Doo"

Mind you - we normally type these commands, or read them.  Very rarely 
do we say them out loud.


Others in the same region:
fsck  fissik/eff ess check/eff sik
gcc gee sea sea / ?
ssh ess ess aitch / shhh / shoosh
wgetdoubleyou get / wuh-get
strace  ess-strace / strace / street race


Opposites - commands with no ambiguity in pronunciation
grep
sed
awl
perl
make
telnet
elinks

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Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[Barry Marchant]

Round here, when I am already root, and want to run dolphin which for 
some strange reason barfs up if I forget the sudo it is pronounced 'bugger'


Robert Fisher wrote:

Today I came across a reminder of the meaning of "sudo"
"super user do"

So how should it be pronounced?

soo-doo or soo-dough

Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[Kent Fredric]

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Robert Fisher  wrote:

> Today I came across a reminder of the meaning of "sudo"
> "super user do"
>
> So how should it be pronounced?
>
> soo-doo or soo-dough
>


I pronounce it somewhat akin to

   pseudo

( That is , with a silent p )

Which I guess was part of the joke behind the name. :)


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Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[dave]

So when did you get my wife?

and she'd add on clean up the doggy doos too!
(we have 2 dogs here - sigh)

On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:11:16 John Carter wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Robert Fisher wrote:
> > Today I came across a reminder of the meaning of "sudo"
> > "super user do"
> >
> > So how should it be pronounced?
> >
> > soo-doo or soo-dough
>
> "Dough make me a sandwich" just wouldn't make sense!
>
> http://xkcd.com/149/
>
> Sue, do make me a sandwich.
>
> Now if I just had a wife called Sue who always did what I told her to
> do...
>
> Talk about an impossible dream. :-))
>
> Trouble is, if this Mythical unix Sue is anything like my wife...
>
> It'll be,
>
> make sandwich
> make: only you can make sandwich. Lazy toad.
>
> sudo make sandwich
> [sudo] password for johnc: please
> Sorry, try again.
> [sudo] password for johnc: I'll take the rubbish out.
> [sudo] And bring in the washing while you're out there!
>
>
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Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[John Carter]

On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Robert Fisher wrote:


Today I came across a reminder of the meaning of "sudo"
"super user do"

So how should it be pronounced?

soo-doo or soo-dough



"Dough make me a sandwich" just wouldn't make sense!

http://xkcd.com/149/

Sue, do make me a sandwich.

Now if I just had a wife called Sue who always did what I told her to
do...

Talk about an impossible dream. :-))

Trouble is, if this Mythical unix Sue is anything like my wife...

It'll be,

make sandwich
make: only you can make sandwich. Lazy toad.

sudo make sandwich
[sudo] password for johnc: please
Sorry, try again.
[sudo] password for johnc: I'll take the rubbish out.
[sudo] And bring in the washing while you're out there!


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Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[Jim Cheetham]

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Robert Fisher wrote:
> So how should it be pronounced?
>
> soo-doo or soo-dough

"S U do"

Which is correct - "I will dough this job" / "I will do this job" ?
Next question - "su fred" is "S U fred" / "Sue fred" ?

-jim

Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[steve]

On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 16:14 +1200, Robert Fisher wrote:
> steve wrote:
> > The latter...
> > On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 15:55 +1200, Robert Fisher wrote:
> >   
> >> Today I came across a reminder of the meaning of "sudo"
> >> "super user do"
> >>
> >> So how should it be pronounced?
> >>
> >> soo-doo or soo-dough
> >> 
> Is that your answer, your guess or your preference?
My answer, and note John's point that it *isn't* super. Although
interestingly wikipedia disagrees. I've never, ever heard it pronounced
otherwise... and as for the third alternative, well that's just plain
silly! So I suppose it's my preference.

David, if Phil Collins is using it, is sususudo?

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Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[John Hyde]

Remember that sudo allows a permitted user to execute a command as the 
superuser or *another user*


So you don't have to become superuser - you can become 'fred' or 'dunedin'.

Just like the su command means 'switch user'. (Not superuser)

John

BTW I have heard  both soo-dough and soo-doo 50/50.

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steve wrote:

The latter...
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 15:55 +1200, Robert Fisher wrote:


Today I came across a reminder of the meaning of "sudo"
"super user do"

So how should it be pronounced?

soo-doo or soo-dough


Is that your answer, your guess or your preference?




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Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[Robert Fisher]

steve wrote:

The latter...
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 15:55 +1200, Robert Fisher wrote:
  

Today I came across a reminder of the meaning of "sudo"
"super user do"

So how should it be pronounced?

soo-doo or soo-dough


Is that your answer, your guess or your preference?

Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[David Merriman]

When you realise you've just done something stupid, it's soo-d'oh! :)


2009/9/9 Robert Fisher 

> Today I came across a reminder of the meaning of "sudo"
> "super user do"
>
> So how should it be pronounced?
>
> soo-doo or soo-dough
>

Re: Pronounce "sudo"

[steve]

The latter...
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 15:55 +1200, Robert Fisher wrote:
> Today I came across a reminder of the meaning of "sudo"
> "super user do"
> 
> So how should it be pronounced?
> 
> soo-doo or soo-dough
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Pronounce "sudo"

[Robert Fisher]

Today I came across a reminder of the meaning of "sudo"
"super user do"

So how should it be pronounced?

soo-doo or soo-dough