Re: Where have you seen linux today?
On 13/02/10 17:54, Steve Holdoway wrote: Wasn't there a school in Dunedin that attempted to get the value of the licenses instead and failed? Warrington School. http://wikieducator.org/Warrington_School -- Jim Tittsler http://www.OnNZ.net/ GPG: 0x01159DB6 Python Starship http://Starship.Python.net/crew/jwt/ Mailman IRC irc://irc.freenode.net/#mailman
Re: Where have you seen linux today?
Hi People I found this on The Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter #178 NZ school ditches Microsoft and goes totally open source A New Zealand high school running entirely on open source software has slashed its server requirements by a factor of almost 50, despite a government deal mandating the use of Microsoft software in all schools. Albany Senior High School in the northern suburbs of Auckland has been running an entirely open source infrastructure since it opened in 2009. The 230-pupil school was set up to follow open learning principles, offering large learning commons areas where multiple classes interact rather than conventional classrooms and setting aside one day each week for pupils to work on self-driven research projects. The implementation uses Ubuntu on the desktop. http://www.cio.com.au/article/333686/nz_school_ditches_microsoft_goes_totally_open_source?pp=1 My two cents of wondering Due to the Bulk funding blah blah blah that started in around 1993-4. One begs to ask was the government legally entitled to do this taking a schools choice away from what they could run.? Does anyone have a link to this Government deal with Microsoft? Just thought I'd post this to say well done to a school giving linux a fairgo. This might explain why the open polytechnic only offers NZQA for Microsoft applications, well did when I last looked. Cheers Tom
Re: Where have you seen linux today?
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Tom Smith snake...@xtra.co.nz wrote: Hi People I found this on The Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter #178 NZ school ditches Microsoft and goes totally open source A New Zealand high school running entirely on open source software has slashed its server requirements by a factor of almost 50, despite a government deal mandating the use of Microsoft software in all schools. Albany Senior High School in the northern suburbs of Auckland has been running an entirely open source infrastructure since it opened in 2009. The 230-pupil school was set up to follow open learning principles, offering large learning commons areas where multiple classes interact rather than conventional classrooms and setting aside one day each week for pupils to work on self-driven research projects. The implementation uses Ubuntu on the desktop. http://www.cio.com.au/article/333686/nz_school_ditches_microsoft_goes_totally_open_source?pp=1 My two cents of wondering Due to the Bulk funding blah blah blah that started in around 1993-4. One begs to ask was the government legally entitled to do this taking a schools choice away from what they could run.? No choice was taken away. The government paid for licenses for every school. That didn't force the school to use MS products. It made it zero cost.
Re: Where have you seen linux today?
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 17:46 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: No choice was taken away. The government paid for licenses for every school. That didn't force the school to use MS products. It made it zero cost. Wasn't there a school in Dunedin that attempted to get the value of the licenses instead and failed? Sorry to be so vague? Steve
Re: Where have you seen linux today?
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote: On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 17:46 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: No choice was taken away. The government paid for licenses for every school. That didn't force the school to use MS products. It made it zero cost. Wasn't there a school in Dunedin that attempted to get the value of the licenses instead and failed? Sorry to be so vague? possibly. that doesn't detract from what I said.
Re: Where have you seen linux today?
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:46:16 Nick Rout wrote: No choice was taken away. The government paid for licenses for every school. That didn't force the school to use MS products. It made it zero cost. No choice was taken away. We all paid Microsoft for licenses for every school. That didn't force the school to use MS products. It made it zero cost. There, FTFY. A
Re: Where have you seen linux today?
I was in Sydney airport some hours ago (I don't know how many, I think I've crossed every single dateline in the last 2 days). Anyway, my point is that at Sydney airport, Optus were providing free internet kiosks with Ubuntu. The browser button to clear private data appeared to be an X restart and then a reboot the OS. I don't know what the browser was, it wasn't Firefox and I've never used Opera. Cheers, Michael. Stephen Irons wrote: I had to spend 7 hours in transit at Perth airport -- not much to do but use the free internet kiosk. There was a little note attached to the keyboard If the system has locked up, press ctrl-alt-backspace Oh, ctrl-alt-backspace is a feature, because it is documented somewhere. Anyway, I did it, and sure enough, X restarted, and autologged-in as 'kioskuser'. It seemed to be running Opera, although there was no title bar or menu bar. There was a button labelled 'Delete Private Data' which I pressed: this rebooted the whole machine. On the plane with my family, one of our entertainment terminals restarted in the middle of a movie, showing linux restarting. There was a USB socket on the seat next to the display. The airline magazine said that you could plug in a USB stick, ipod, etc and use it to play music or view photos. My son inserted his flash drive, opened a photo, and ... the thing locked up. So I got out the control device (used for playing games, or, in $$$ class, for sending emails), to see if I could find ctrl-alt-delete or ctrl-alt-backspace. No, but there was function-alt-backspace, so I pressed those. X restarted, leaving the grey background and the cross-shaped mouse cursor when /etc/X/config-whatever file is bad, and we could do nothing more with the terminal. The cabin crew said they could restart it 'in the galley', but after trying two or three times, and asking if we had seen lots of writing on the display, we could not get it going again. I explained the situation (...and I pressed a whole bunch of random keys on the keyboard, including this one, that one and that other one...), but we had to use that seat for sleeping in. Stephen Irons
Re: Where have you seen linux today?
I had to spend 7 hours in transit at Perth airport -- not much to do but use the free internet kiosk. There was a little note attached to the keyboard If the system has locked up, press ctrl-alt-backspace Oh, ctrl-alt-backspace is a feature, because it is documented somewhere. Anyway, I did it, and sure enough, X restarted, and autologged-in as 'kioskuser'. It seemed to be running Opera, although there was no title bar or menu bar. There was a button labelled 'Delete Private Data' which I pressed: this rebooted the whole machine. On the plane with my family, one of our entertainment terminals restarted in the middle of a movie, showing linux restarting. There was a USB socket on the seat next to the display. The airline magazine said that you could plug in a USB stick, ipod, etc and use it to play music or view photos. My son inserted his flash drive, opened a photo, and ... the thing locked up. So I got out the control device (used for playing games, or, in $$$ class, for sending emails), to see if I could find ctrl-alt-delete or ctrl-alt-backspace. No, but there was function-alt-backspace, so I pressed those. X restarted, leaving the grey background and the cross-shaped mouse cursor when /etc/X/config-whatever file is bad, and we could do nothing more with the terminal. The cabin crew said they could restart it 'in the galley', but after trying two or three times, and asking if we had seen lots of writing on the display, we could not get it going again. I explained the situation (...and I pressed a whole bunch of random keys on the keyboard, including this one, that one and that other one...), but we had to use that seat for sleeping in. Stephen Irons === This email, including any attachments, is only for the intended addressee. It is subject to copyright, is confidential and may be the subject of legal or other privilege, none of which is waived or lost by reason of this transmission. If the receiver is not the intended addressee, please accept our apologies, notify us by return, delete all copies and perform no other act on the email. Unfortunately, we cannot warrant that the email has not been altered or corrupted during transmission. ===
Re: Where have you seen linux today?
I volunteer at Trade Aid, and they use Red Hat on their server in Auckland. For one reason or another, we need real time access to this server when processing a sale - so it's essential and used by everyone. We still have XP on the computer behind the counter though.
Re: Where have you seen linux today?
Was in auckland last week and the kiosk free internet PC i was on locked up. I 3 finger saluted it (thinking windows box) but was surprised to see it go down with a linux display and then rebooted with Ubuntu - using Opra for the browser. I was very surprised to say the least. my 2c worth. Dave. - Original Message Follows - I volunteer at Trade Aid, and they use Red Hat on their server in Auckland. For one reason or another, we need real time access to this server when processing a sale - so it's essential and used by everyone. We still have XP on the computer behind the counter though.
Re: Where have you seen linux today?
Sort of the final word on this subject I think: http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/01/linux-in-real-life-uses-around-world.html I actually didn't realise Linux was becoming quite so prevalent. David On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: I went into specsavers the other day to get a copy of an invoice for my insurance company. Sat down at computer with assistant and she went through several screens, it soon became apparent that she was not using windows. Invoice info etc was all via a browser (firefox) and invoice came up in openoffice writer so she could print it. While she was off at the printer I clicked an icon that said my computer or suchlike. The file system was definitely *nix, it had var opt and dev directories (I couldn't linger as the printer wasn't far away.) She knew nothing about what was underlying the software she used. It may have been any unix variant, but it was great to see something that wasn't windows!
Re: Where have you seen linux today?
Nick Rout wrote: I went into specsavers the other day to get a copy of an invoice for my insurance company. Sat down at computer with assistant and she went through several screens, it soon became apparent that she was not using windows. Invoice info etc was all via a browser (firefox) and invoice came up in openoffice writer so she could print it. While she was off at the printer I clicked an icon that said my computer or suchlike. The file system was definitely *nix, it had var opt and dev directories (I couldn't linger as the printer wasn't far away.) She knew nothing about what was underlying the software she used. It may have been any unix variant, but it was great to see something that wasn't windows! +1 on the optometrist theme. Having just got my reminder that it's time for new glasses, I know that it was 2 years ago I saw a version of gnome running on a terminal in OPSM, which I was quite surprised to see. Surprised only because that may have been the first time I had seen such an obviously linux setup it in a store. But very pleased to see. Not sure what versions however it looked similar to the first linux desktop that I ever successfully installed (though could do nothing with) 10 years ago, with the foot-shaped main menu and weird dialog boxes mouse shapes pointing in the wrong direction etc. Not meaning to start no wars nor nothing just saying, it was not like the recent gnome desktop (which I do actually quite like and sometimes use). Cheers, Roger
Re: Where have you seen linux today?
When flying back from Oz on Air NZ, my entertainment machine in the headseat need a restart... I was able to follow the full linux boot messages as they went past.. enough to know that they shouldn't be getting all the errors they were...time for an upgrade/fix :-) Pete Christopher Sawtell wrote: The 'bus station displays were at one time. I saw a Linux kernel crash message displayed on one of them a few years back. 2010/1/16 David Lowe da...@thistledown.co.nz mailto:da...@thistledown.co.nz Hope the eyesight is OK Nick... Yes it's all around us. Noel Leeming stores have a locked-down terminal with a web browser that look a but like Firefox, running on top of some Linux distro. - David On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com mailto:nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: I went into specsavers the other day to get a copy of an invoice for my insurance company. Sat down at computer with assistant and she went through several screens, it soon became apparent that she was not using windows. Invoice info etc was all via a browser (firefox) and invoice came up in openoffice writer so she could print it. While she was off at the printer I clicked an icon that said my computer or suchlike. The file system was definitely *nix, it had var opt and dev directories (I couldn't linger as the printer wasn't far away.) She knew nothing about what was underlying the software she used. It may have been any unix variant, but it was great to see something that wasn't windows! -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell -- --- Peter Glassenbury Computer Science department p...@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz University of Canterbury +64 3 3642987 ext 7762 New Zealand
Re: Where have you seen linux today?
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:08:11 Nick Rout wrote: I went into specsavers the other day to get a copy of an invoice for my insurance company. Sat down at computer with assistant and she went through several screens, it soon became apparent that she was not using windows. Invoice info etc was all via a browser (firefox) and invoice came up in openoffice writer so she could print it. While she was off at the printer I clicked an icon that said my computer or suchlike. The file system was definitely *nix, it had var opt and dev directories (I couldn't linger as the printer wasn't far away.) She knew nothing about what was underlying the software she used. It may have been any unix variant, but it was great to see something that wasn't windows! The digital photo frames I've seen in shops look like they have some recycled code from the KDE 3 screen saver package. -- Quote of the login: If you fool around with something long enough, it will eventually break.
Re: Where have you seen linux today?
Hope the eyesight is OK Nick... Yes it's all around us. Noel Leeming stores have a locked-down terminal with a web browser that look a but like Firefox, running on top of some Linux distro. - David On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: I went into specsavers the other day to get a copy of an invoice for my insurance company. Sat down at computer with assistant and she went through several screens, it soon became apparent that she was not using windows. Invoice info etc was all via a browser (firefox) and invoice came up in openoffice writer so she could print it. While she was off at the printer I clicked an icon that said my computer or suchlike. The file system was definitely *nix, it had var opt and dev directories (I couldn't linger as the printer wasn't far away.) She knew nothing about what was underlying the software she used. It may have been any unix variant, but it was great to see something that wasn't windows!
Re: Where have you seen linux today?
The 'bus station displays were at one time. I saw a Linux kernel crash message displayed on one of them a few years back. 2010/1/16 David Lowe da...@thistledown.co.nz Hope the eyesight is OK Nick... Yes it's all around us. Noel Leeming stores have a locked-down terminal with a web browser that look a but like Firefox, running on top of some Linux distro. - David On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: I went into specsavers the other day to get a copy of an invoice for my insurance company. Sat down at computer with assistant and she went through several screens, it soon became apparent that she was not using windows. Invoice info etc was all via a browser (firefox) and invoice came up in openoffice writer so she could print it. While she was off at the printer I clicked an icon that said my computer or suchlike. The file system was definitely *nix, it had var opt and dev directories (I couldn't linger as the printer wasn't far away.) She knew nothing about what was underlying the software she used. It may have been any unix variant, but it was great to see something that wasn't windows! -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell
