Re: Toast, Take 2
On Tuesday 14 May 2002 09:40, Bonez wrote: Having compiled a downloaded source for 2.4.18, I proceeded to update my bzImage and System.map files in /boot. Since I am using GRUB as my bootloader, I went in and created a new enter for the new 2.4.18 kernel, to try booting with it. Now, where I had sound, networking to the internet, email, web browsing etc., when I boot up to my original 2.4.2 configuration, the sound, access to the net, is all gone, plus I get multiple failure notices as the various modules and daemons load at boot time. How can I get things back to the way they were before, so that I can boot up and continue working on my upgrade? In my effort to upgrade I followed the listing found at www.linuxnewbie.org, under configuration and compilation of new kernel. Scott See the SxS on recompiles this list. However you do not save the kernel as bzImage, you are supposed do a copy as follows: cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18 and then call this with grub as vmlinuz-2.4.18 otherwise how can you tell which kernel is which in /boot/grub/menu.lst. You did not overwrite or delete the original kernel entry did you? You use this to boot into linux in case of a 'fire' -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Toast, Take 2
On Tuesday 14 May 2002 09:49, Bill Campbell wrote: On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 05:40:05PM -0600, Bonez wrote: Having compiled a downloaded source for 2.4.18, I proceeded to update my bzImage and System.map files in /boot. Since I am using GRUB as my bootloader, I went in and created a new enter for the new 2.4.18 kernel, to try booting with it. Now, where I had sound, networking to the internet, email, web browsing etc., when I boot up to my original 2.4.2 configuration, the sound, access to the net, is all gone, plus I get multiple failure notices as the various modules and daemons load at boot time. Did you do the ``make modules'' and ``make modules_install'' after the bZimage? Bill Shouldn't that be bzImage BIll grin -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
On Tuesday 14 May 2002 11:50, Collins wrote: On Tue, 14 May 2002 11:38:34 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 13 May 2002 14:02, Tony Alfrey wrote: On Sunday 12 May 2002 08:01 pm,dep wrote: snip a modern distribution based on 2.4, with everything simply updated to newer stuff. snip Isn't that what 3.1 was supposed to be? It was! but did not turn out that way. My crumbly bain cells seem to remember that I liked 3.1 Beta pretty well, but about that time I discovered several other distros that worked equally well, so I never bellied up to the bar for 3.1 released version. Well I did and was more than disappointed. As far as i was concerned it was no where near as friendly as LTP itself, also it was ancient in the suuplied programs. I had to get to and update a great deal just to ge a decent compile on the latest kernel. Kde was far behind etc. nuff said. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
On Tuesday 14 May 2002 06:05 am, Keith Antoine wrote: On Tuesday 14 May 2002 11:50, Collins wrote: On Tue, 14 May 2002 11:38:34 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 13 May 2002 14:02, Tony Alfrey wrote: On Sunday 12 May 2002 08:01 pm,dep wrote: snip a modern distribution based on 2.4, with everything simply updated to newer stuff. snip Isn't that what 3.1 was supposed to be? It was! but did not turn out that way. My crumbly bain cells seem to remember that I liked 3.1 Beta pretty well, but about that time I discovered several other distros that worked equally well, so I never bellied up to the bar for 3.1 released version. Well I did and was more than disappointed. As far as i was concerned it was no where near as friendly as LTP itself, also it was ancient in the suuplied programs. I had to get to and update a great deal just to ge a decent compile on the latest kernel. Kde was far behind etc. nuff said. I must've done something wrong since I've compiled kernel 2.49 and 2.4.18 with the tools provided by the base eWorkstation 3.1 install... -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1+, kernel 2.4.18-preempt, KDE 3.0.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 4:00am up 6:15, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 It's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Funny stuff!
On May 13, 2002 03:33 pm, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Re the Gatwick and Heathrow shots, just be glad there are none showing the BSOD in an AirBus cockpit. Damn! That's scarey! And I thought the French were not using the Windows virus. While Boeing's pretty committed to Micro$oft (perhaps the move to Chicago will help them see the light), I don't know anybody there who would think of putting it aboard an airplane for anything but game playing. Not to worry. I've been in the trenches of FAA certification of flight software. M$ wouldn't come close to being certified for use on a plane. For one thing, you have to be able to inspect the source. :-}) In a slightly related subject NAVCANADA is deploying a new mission critical air operation system to all airports in Canada, built upon Unix and Linux. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: AbiWord crashes when opened by user
Iraj Medifar wrote: I just upgraded abiword to abiword-1.0.1-SuSE.jeo.1 on my suse8 machine.There was no problem with the download or intallation of the rpm. However, after the upgrade, I can only open the application as root. It crashes immediately when I open it as user, giving a segmentation error. Would someone know how I can fix this? I dloaded the same RPM, converted it to Debian with alien, and installed it in Libranet 2. It works perfectly with KDE 2.2.2. You did not indicate what windows manager you are using. I am assuming you use KDE. Try another one e.g. IceWM. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
OT Does anyone know of OS neutral forums?
I work with Linux, Unix, Windows and Novell. I cannot always choose the OS that my customers work with, but I still need to be concerned about security, connectivity, etc. I know that there are forums for each of these separately, but that does not always help me when I am trying to work within a heterogeneous environment. It would be nice to post questions and share information about computers regardless of the OS in mind. Just thought I would inquire. Regards, Wil McGilvery Manager, Digital Media Lynch Technologies Inc. 416-744-7191 1-888-622-3729 416-744-0406 FAX www.lynchdigital.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Updated Step
Tarek Heiland has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/fastrak.html to incorporate the following: Updated with RH-7.x info ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
SNIP One of the biggest problems I had with Caldera, and one of the biggest problems anyone attempting a new distro must face is the problem of updates. linux is not a static product, and all its components are subject to continual revision. Caldera never managed to offer very much in the way of RPMs for its particular setup, whereas RedHat has always offered RPMs for everything under the sun. This being the case, it would seem to me that the most productive choice would be to develop a stable clone of RedHat rather than any of Caldera's offerings. (Here come the flames!) Otherwise, someone has got to do the grunt work of providing RPMs for the new distro on a continual basis. SNIP Have any of you produced RPMS based on LSB (http://www.linuxbase.org)? It seems to me that if it was practical, we might get the most mileage out of a distro focused on compliance to the current standard. That way any RPMS produced would run on any LSB-compliant distro. Since I've never produced an RPM based on the standard I'm not sure how complicated it would be, so I'm interested in whether or not this could reasonably be done. It would make it easy (or easier, anyway) to move between base distros if we found that the one initially chosen was less than adequate. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Updated Step
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Re: a crackpot idea i had
On Tue, 14 May 2002 09:45:13 -0700 begin Aaron Grewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: [snip] Have any of you produced RPMS based on LSB (http://www.linuxbase.org)? It seems to me that if it was practical, we might get the most mileage out of a distro focused on compliance to the current standard. That way any RPMS produced would run on any LSB-compliant distro. Since I've never produced an RPM based on the standard I'm not sure how complicated it would be, so I'm interested in whether or not this could reasonably be done. It would make it easy (or easier, anyway) to move between base distros if we found that the one initially chosen was less than adequate.___ I see several problems here, most stemming from glibc, the kernel, and other library versions. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: RPM failed deps gone loopy
Ah crap, that s*ks. Can you take the tarfile and build it manually? A pain, but it may work, meanwhile you can let RH know how much they blew it... Of course it may be that they relied on a 3rd party to create the rpm and they just included it in their distro (they still should have tested it though). [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ya, its not every SRPM that does that just some of them, and they're all directly from RH-7.3. Susan Macchia wrote: Lonni, You may have already done this, but I would try building another src.rpm to determine if the problem is with the rpm file (which I suspect), or with rpm itself. Then, if the problem is the rpm file, whereever you got the src.rpm (redhat?) is who should fix the problem. I bet its with the scripts that are used to build the source from the rpm or some such. Good luck and HTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That could very well be the problem. If so, its RedHat's fault, as all i've been doing is rpm --rebuild file.src.rpm and then attempting to install the resulting RPM. Susan Macchia wrote: Lonni, I've been writing a lot of k-shell scripts lately; to execute and assign the value of an external program, you would say, for example: foo=$(cat foobar) Which is why I am replying... the LIST=$(... looks like this - could be some kind of syntax error somewhere or something. Just thought I'd throw this out as symptomatic of some script problem? Don't know if this helps but... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in the process of rebuilding the RH-7.3 SRPMs, and then installing them. I'm starting to see some very very weird stuff, for failed dependencies: CXXFLAGS is needed by libsigc++-devel-1.0.3-5 LIST=$(shell is needed by libsigc++-devel-1.0.3-5 No, neither is a typo , that's exactly how they appeared. I'm using the exact same version of rpm that i've had for a few weeks (prior to the manual upgrade i'm doing). = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: RPM failed deps gone loopy
The RPM builds installs just fine. Its really just a cosmetic thing, and i found it quite odd. Mostly just an FYI. Susan Macchia wrote: Ah crap, that s*ks. Can you take the tarfile and build it manually? A pain, but it may work, meanwhile you can let RH know how much they blew it... Of course it may be that they relied on a 3rd party to create the rpm and they just included it in their distro (they still should have tested it though). [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ya, its not every SRPM that does that just some of them, and they're all directly from RH-7.3. Susan Macchia wrote: Lonni, You may have already done this, but I would try building another src.rpm to determine if the problem is with the rpm file (which I suspect), or with rpm itself. Then, if the problem is the rpm file, whereever you got the src.rpm (redhat?) is who should fix the problem. I bet its with the scripts that are used to build the source from the rpm or some such. Good luck and HTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That could very well be the problem. If so, its RedHat's fault, as all i've been doing is rpm --rebuild file.src.rpm and then attempting to install the resulting RPM. Susan Macchia wrote: Lonni, I've been writing a lot of k-shell scripts lately; to execute and assign the value of an external program, you would say, for example: foo=$(cat foobar) Which is why I am replying... the LIST=$(... looks like this - could be some kind of syntax error somewhere or something. Just thought I'd throw this out as symptomatic of some script problem? Don't know if this helps but... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in the process of rebuilding the RH-7.3 SRPMs, and then installing them. I'm starting to see some very very weird stuff, for failed dependencies: CXXFLAGS is needed by libsigc++-devel-1.0.3-5 LIST=$(shell is needed by libsigc++-devel-1.0.3-5 No, neither is a typo , that's exactly how they appeared. I'm using the exact same version of rpm that i've had for a few weeks (prior to the manual upgrade i'm doing). = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 1:00pm up 25 days, 19:54, 4 users, load average: 0.25, 0.25, 0.34 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Does anyone know of OS neutral forums?
You found it right here where all dialects of Linux are spoken. Wil McGilvery wrote: I work with Linux, Unix, Windows and Novell. I cannot always choose the OS that my customers work with, but I still need to be concerned about security, connectivity, etc. I know that there are forums for each of these separately, but that does not always help me when I am trying to work within a heterogeneous environment. It would be nice to post questions and share information about computers regardless of the OS in mind. Just thought I would inquire. Regards, Wil McGilvery Manager, Digital Media Lynch Technologies Inc. 416-744-7191 1-888-622-3729 416-744-0406 FAX www.lynchdigital.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: RPM failed deps gone loopy
Scribbling feverishly on May 14, Net Llama! managed to emit: Ya, its not every SRPM that does that just some of them, and they're all directly from RH-7.3. I wonder if RH slipstreamed some changes to RPM or the RPM macros into the 7.3 release? Kurt -- Chicago, n.: Where the dead still vote ... early and often! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: RPM failed deps gone loopy
On Tue, 14 May 2002, Kurt Wall wrote: Scribbling feverishly on May 14, Net Llama! managed to emit: Ya, its not every SRPM that does that just some of them, and they're all directly from RH-7.3. I wonder if RH slipstreamed some changes to RPM or the RPM macros into the 7.3 release? Could be. It wouldn't be the first time :) -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
first -- jeez! there's a multitude of ideas here, all of them good. i still wonder what it would take to adapt what we already have from 2.4, how copying the whole cd to a directory, updating the rpms (which, okay, would be a hell of a job), burning it back to cd, and running it, could be made to work. second, and this *isn't* an advertisement; do not feel in any way obligated to go here no matter how attractive i might make it seem; my take on the whole sorry mess of distributions today is here: http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=62 i really do think that distributions are too much interested in the next quarter, and not interested enough in what brung 'em to the dance in the first place. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: trapping and processing outgoing mail
http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang/ On Wednesday 15 May 2002 04:27, m.w.chang wrote: Is there any sendmail (other smtp daemons) that could allow pre-processing of messages before they were being sent out? For example, addd a line of advertisement... :) -- Ronnie Gauthier == Each days terror almost a form of boredom madmen at the wheel and stepping on the gas and the brakes no good and each day one, sometimes two, morning glories faultless, blue, blue sometimes flecked with magenta each lit from within with the first sunlight -- Denise Levertov -- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
On Wed, 15 May 2002, dep wrote: second, and this *isn't* an advertisement; do not feel in any way obligated to go here no matter how attractive i might make it seem; my take on the whole sorry mess of distributions today is here: http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=62 i really do think that distributions are too much interested in the next quarter, and not interested enough in what brung 'em to the dance in the first place. I reawd it. Thought provoking for sure. I can't say that i really agree with all of it. Yes, RedHat shouldn't be setting its sites on other distros, but its quite far from being the only powerhouse distro left. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
