Vet software
Awhile back someone was looking for a Vet office package. I'm not sure if you found one but check out VetTux (freshmeat) -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
On Wednesday 15 May 2002 14:43, dep wrote: first -- jeez! there's a multitude of ideas here, all of them good. i still wonder what it would take to adapt what we already have from 2.4, how copying the whole cd to a directory, updating the rpms (which, okay, would be a hell of a job), burning it back to cd, and running it, could be made to work. Ok! I at least have the time to play with this but need a great deal more info, where do I go for this? I have on original disk the eDesktop but not the original std 2.4, has anyone got this still and can I get a copy? I do have LTP still. Also I have Suse 8.0 and , _CANNOT_ get the dvd drive to be seen as ide-scsi tried practically everything to no avail, assist please. As most know I wrote the original SxS on this but Suse is a 'Bast***'. I even got it seen in Mandrake's latest but not this one. Oh, yes! it sees the writer ok. Umm I seem to have killed sr1, whats the call for remaking that, but it says that scd1 and sr2 do not exist but they do in /dev. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Killed message log!!!
Scribbling feverishly on May 21, Harry G managed to emit: In my attempt to find the trouble with cdrecord, I meant to copy my /var/log/messages doc. Instead, due to the hour, I renamed it. I successfully renamed it back, but now, there is no logging report being generated in the message file. What can I do to fix this stupid thing I did? Restart syslog. Kurt -- You can tune a piano, but you can't tuna fish. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
GRUB LILO
How would I go about removing LILO from a HD and replacing it with GRUB? There is only one OS on the machine, if that matters. Brian ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Killed message log!!! SOLVED
Thank you. Boy, I sure feel dumb! Harry G On Wednesday May 22 2002 05:34 am, you interfaced in analog form: Scribbling feverishly on May 21, Harry G managed to emit: In my attempt to find the trouble with cdrecord, I meant to copy my /var/log/messages doc. Instead, due to the hour, I renamed it. I successfully renamed it back, but now, there is no logging report being generated in the message file. What can I do to fix this stupid thing I did? Restart syslog. Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
Skippy do you need the original ed 2.4 cd ? I have a one copy here and there are several in a store thelast time I looked. I can burn a copy if you need it. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Maybe
On Tue, 21 May 2002 23:21:35 + begin Ronnie Gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: OK, then how about the open p tags. ??? There's no open p tags in the linuxbooks.pananix.com/basic/toc.html This is a whole separate tree from my pananix site. -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Gcmbust as non-root
OK gcombust lovers, how do I get the damn program to work as non-root?
This is a permissions issue that seems to be escaping me.
My symptoms are as follows:
I start gcombust and go to the Burn tab, then click the Check scsi settings button.
I am then presented with an error message,
cdrecord failed to recognize selected drive (wrong scsi settings or no permission to
device)
/dev/scd0 is my reader (it's a CDRW, but it don't write too good anymore)
/dec/scd1 is my CDRW - Liteon 241016
Permissions are (now) as follows:
brwxrwxrwx 2 root root 11, 0 Feb 23 22:10 /dev/scd0
brwxrwxrwx 2 root root 11, 1 Feb 23 22:10 /dev/scd1
Last night when I was trying this, permissions on /dev/scd1 were
brwx-- 2 dad root 11, 1 Feb 23 22:10 /dev/scd1
and I changed it to
brwxrwxrwx 2 dad root 11, 1 Feb 23 22:10 /dev/scd1
with no change to the behavior of gcombust
This morning, permissions on /dev/scd1 were (before I changed them to the previously
mentioned perm's)
brwx-- 2 root root 11, 1 Feb 23 22:10 /dev/scd1
I don't know how this got changed from last nights settings.
Permissions on /dev/scd0 don't seem to change. When I click the Check scsi settings
button while /dev/scd0 is selected as my reader, I get the same error message.
It works fine as root ('cept I don't want to have to run the proggy as root).
Any ideas?
At this point, I'm back to using xcdroast :-(
Thanks,
Tim
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Re: GRUB LILO
On Wed, 22 May 2002 07:16:58 -0400 Brian Witowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How would I go about removing LILO from a HD and replacing it with GRUB? There is only one OS on the machine, if that matters. 1. make sure you have a lilo boot disk, and verify that it works 2. Install grub software (rpm, tarballs, your choice) 3. Read the 'info grub' files. You could also setup a grub boot floppy. This is covered in the info files. 4. Now you should create /boot/grub directory and copy all grub *stage* files to that directory. 5. create /boot/grub/menu.lst. Here's a sample default 0 timeout 10 title=Gentoo-19-r5-hda2 root (hd0,1) kernel /boot/bzImage-2.4.19-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/hda2 hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi ro title=elx17-hda6 root (hd0,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.17 root=/dev/hda6 hdc=ide-scsi ro title=Win98 root (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 6. In the following root is the address of the partition with /boot/grub partition in grub terminology, i.e. hda2 = hd0,1 root (hd0,1) setup (hd0) 5. Reboot and enjoy -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Gcmbust as non-root
Since xcdroast works, I would imagine that cdrecord itself has proper permissions. Still, I have to ask... Mine are: -r-sr-sr-x 1 root root 185948 Dec 13 13:55 /usr/bin/cdrecord I had to do a 'chmod +s' myself. I don't care what the packages claim. It don't work for me without this. What does 'cdrecord --scanbus' return when run as a non-root user? -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
Skippy (Keith Antoine) wrote inter alia: Also I have Suse 8.0 and , _CANNOT_ get the dvd drive to be seen as ide-scsi tried practically everything to no avail, assist please. As most know I wrote the original SxS on this but Suse is a 'Bast***'. I even got it seen in Mandrake's latest but not this one. Oh, yes! it sees the writer ok. Umm I seem to have killed sr1, whats the call for remaking that, but it says that scd1 and sr2 do not exist but they do in /dev. I am interested in the answer too. At the risk of starting a small bush fire, I'd suggest cease flagellating yourself with SuSE and try a nice Debian like Libranet. Case in point: I dloaded xcdroast alpha 10 and ancillary libs for SuSE 8.0. They installed OK, but even with the no-root option selected SuSE 8.0 refuses to let me run xcdroast in user. I then dloaded alpha 10 and ancillary libs from Debian.org and installed it in Libranet 2.0.2. It works fine. And it recognizes my DVD as a SCSI device. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Caldera 3.1.1
Hi gang! Anybody had any experience installing 3.1.1? In other words, does it seem like a well-assembled distro? Thanks -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Caldera 3.1.1
On Wed, 22 May 2002 06:18:54 -0700, Tony Alfrey wrote: Anybody had any experience installing 3.1.1? In other words, does it seem like a well-assembled distro? Thanks Not really... I had better luck with Slackware 8.0 YMMV Stayler ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Gcmbust as non-root
On 5/22/2002 9:13 AM, someone claiming to be Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Since xcdroast works, I would imagine that cdrecord itself has proper permissions. Still, I have to ask... Mine are: -r-sr-sr-x 1 root root 185948 Dec 13 13:55 /usr/bin/cdrecord -rws--x--- 1 root xcdwrite 265232 Apr 29 22:50 /usr/local/bin/cdrecord I had to do a 'chmod +s' myself. I don't care what the packages claim. It don't work for me without this. I'm a member of the xcdrwite group, sufficient for executing cdrecord with the perm's it has. What does 'cdrecord --scanbus' return when run as a non-root user? The right stuff (I'm not in position to copy and paste the output). Thanks, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Maybe
On Tue, 21 May 2002 08:29:50 -0400 begin Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On 5/21/2002 6:45 AM, someone claiming to be David A. Bandel wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2002 08:50:23 +0200 begin Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: Will there be a section on this in the book? All the code is now fixed (even the code that wasn't broken, but the validator didn't like). FYI, the fix for the CSS link (I'm waiting for the validator author to explain to me why my code was wrong) is: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=http://www.pananix.com/css/pananix.css; / LINK REL=STYLESHEET HREF=http://www.pananix.com/css/pananix.css; TYPE=text/css (note: line wrap, no extra charge) I _still_ see no difference with the version of Konqueror I have. So I'll focus on code rather than the book. David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Gcmbust as non-root
I always run it as root because I really don't care to worry about running it
as me. So I simply set up an icon that uses kdesu. Then when I click the
icon, I enter the root password and gcombust comes up and I cna burn with no
problemo.
I could never get xcdroast to work. (or kconcd either). Since gcombust works
and is so configurable, I have stuck with it.
Tim Wunder wrote:
OK gcombust lovers, how do I get the damn program to work as non-root?
This is a permissions issue that seems to be escaping me.
My symptoms are as follows:
I start gcombust and go to the Burn tab, then click the Check scsi settings
button. I am then presented with an error message,
cdrecord failed to recognize selected drive (wrong scsi settings or no
permission to device)
/dev/scd0 is my reader (it's a CDRW, but it don't write too good anymore)
/dec/scd1 is my CDRW - Liteon 241016
Permissions are (now) as follows:
brwxrwxrwx 2 root root 11, 0 Feb 23 22:10 /dev/scd0
brwxrwxrwx 2 root root 11, 1 Feb 23 22:10 /dev/scd1
Last night when I was trying this, permissions on /dev/scd1 were
brwx-- 2 dad root 11, 1 Feb 23 22:10 /dev/scd1
and I changed it to
brwxrwxrwx 2 dad root 11, 1 Feb 23 22:10 /dev/scd1
with no change to the behavior of gcombust
This morning, permissions on /dev/scd1 were (before I changed them to the
previously mentioned perm's)
brwx-- 2 root root 11, 1 Feb 23 22:10 /dev/scd1
I don't know how this got changed from last nights settings.
Permissions on /dev/scd0 don't seem to change. When I click the Check scsi
settings button while /dev/scd0 is selected as my reader, I get the same
error
message.
It works fine as root ('cept I don't want to have to run the proggy as root).
Any ideas?
At this point, I'm back to using xcdroast :-(
Thanks,
Tim
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Re: Gcmbust as non-root
Truth be told, i've always run it as root too. I dont' see what the big
deal is. If you're going to directly access the hardware, its prolly
better that root do it anyway. Or go with sudo.
On Wed, 22 May 2002, Susan Macchia wrote:
I always run it as root because I really don't care to worry about running it
as me. So I simply set up an icon that uses kdesu. Then when I click the
icon, I enter the root password and gcombust comes up and I cna burn with no
problemo.
I could never get xcdroast to work. (or kconcd either). Since gcombust works
and is so configurable, I have stuck with it.
Tim Wunder wrote:
OK gcombust lovers, how do I get the damn program to work as non-root?
This is a permissions issue that seems to be escaping me.
My symptoms are as follows:
I start gcombust and go to the Burn tab, then click the Check scsi settings
button. I am then presented with an error message,
cdrecord failed to recognize selected drive (wrong scsi settings or no
permission to device)
/dev/scd0 is my reader (it's a CDRW, but it don't write too good anymore)
/dec/scd1 is my CDRW - Liteon 241016
Permissions are (now) as follows:
brwxrwxrwx 2 root root 11, 0 Feb 23 22:10 /dev/scd0
brwxrwxrwx 2 root root 11, 1 Feb 23 22:10 /dev/scd1
Last night when I was trying this, permissions on /dev/scd1 were
brwx-- 2 dad root 11, 1 Feb 23 22:10 /dev/scd1
and I changed it to
brwxrwxrwx 2 dad root 11, 1 Feb 23 22:10 /dev/scd1
with no change to the behavior of gcombust
This morning, permissions on /dev/scd1 were (before I changed them to the
previously mentioned perm's)
brwx-- 2 root root 11, 1 Feb 23 22:10 /dev/scd1
I don't know how this got changed from last nights settings.
Permissions on /dev/scd0 don't seem to change. When I click the Check scsi
settings button while /dev/scd0 is selected as my reader, I get the same
error
message.
It works fine as root ('cept I don't want to have to run the proggy as root).
Any ideas?
At this point, I'm back to using xcdroast :-(
Thanks,
Tim
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Re: OT Maybe
On 5/22/2002 9:44 AM, someone claiming to be David A. Bandel wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2002 08:29:50 -0400 begin Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On 5/21/2002 6:45 AM, someone claiming to be David A. Bandel wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2002 08:50:23 +0200 begin Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: Will there be a section on this in the book? All the code is now fixed (even the code that wasn't broken, but the validator didn't like). FYI, the fix for the CSS link (I'm waiting for the validator author to explain to me why my code was wrong) is: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=http://www.pananix.com/css/pananix.css; / LINK REL=STYLESHEET HREF=http://www.pananix.com/css/pananix.css; TYPE=text/css (note: line wrap, no extra charge) I _still_ see no difference with the version of Konqueror I have. Which version of Konqueror would that be? Were you seeing the same problem I was (konqueror-2.x had black text/white background/scroll bar, konqueror-3.x had blue text/yellow background/no scroll bar)? So I'll focus on code rather than the book. I thought you were focusing on the dream ;-) Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Maybe
On Wed, 22 May 2002 10:19:43 -0400 begin Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: [snip] Which version of Konqueror would that be? Were you seeing the same problem I was (konqueror-2.x had black text/white background/scroll bar, konqueror-3.x had blue text/yellow background/no scroll bar)? I don't know, I don't usually use it. Which version comes with Caldera Workstation 3.1.1? I use Netscape 6.2 for browsing (or lynx, which seems to work well with CSS). So I'll focus on code rather than the book. I thought you were focusing on the dream ;-) The book was the dream. You've changed my focus by nitpicking. All I really wanted to do was write and explain. Now I'm having to code html (and I don't like it or I'd be a Web Master -- partly why I'm using CSS, class=xxx is a helluva lot easier than all the other markups). Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
FreeSCO vs. SmoothWall
I'm in the process of setting up a firewall/router box, and i've reduced my choices to Freesco Smoothwall. I'd like some input from anyone who has used them on pro's cons. thanks! -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: GRUB LILO
Went off without a hitch. Thanks all! Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Collins Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 8:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GRUB LILO On Wed, 22 May 2002 07:16:58 -0400 Brian Witowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How would I go about removing LILO from a HD and replacing it with GRUB? There is only one OS on the machine, if that matters. 1. make sure you have a lilo boot disk, and verify that it works 2. Install grub software (rpm, tarballs, your choice) 3. Read the 'info grub' files. You could also setup a grub boot floppy. This is covered in the info files. 4. Now you should create /boot/grub directory and copy all grub *stage* files to that directory. 5. create /boot/grub/menu.lst. Here's a sample default 0 timeout 10 title=Gentoo-19-r5-hda2 root (hd0,1) kernel /boot/bzImage-2.4.19-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/hda2 hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi ro title=elx17-hda6 root (hd0,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.17 root=/dev/hda6 hdc=ide-scsi ro title=Win98 root (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 6. In the following root is the address of the partition with /boot/grub partition in grub terminology, i.e. hda2 = hd0,1 root (hd0,1) setup (hd0) 5. Reboot and enjoy -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Linux Journal Weekly News Notes -- May 22nd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Enjoy... Linux Journal Weekly News Notes -- May 22nd _ Feature Links of the Week Amateur Video Production Using Free Software and Linux: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5817 -- Mike Petullo gives us this HOWTO for digitizing analog videos for storage and manipulation, including tools for editing and ways to publish digital videos. 802.11 Wireless Networks: The Definitive Guide: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6089 -- The book claims to be definitive, so Monta Elkins gave it a thorough review. His decision? Although it leaves out some key points, this is just the book I wished for while thumping my forehead against the wall trying to inject the same material directly from the IEEE 802.11 docs. _ Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPOvJ1hRcJRaVKt4XEQLVcgCgmqZkmWrFT9hY06FEZ0JFyLlrbeYAn0Rt 8a7Ttr8pqqvcrTSGyw3yiAIi =o62F -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re:FreeSCO vs. SmoothWall
For small Internal network accessing the Internet, I prefer FreeSco, thought I have not used SmoothWall. Freesco I put On a 200MB Disk P150Mhz with 32MB Ram and works great. It installs on the disk as yea-old Dos Fat ... -- Ben Duncan Phone (601)-355-2574 Fax (601)-355-2573 Cell (601)-922-1220 Business Network Solutions 336 Elton Road Jackson MS, 39212 Software is like Sex, it is better when it's free - Linus Torvalds ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Installation Guide for OO
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Re: CheckPoint Firewall.
My input is about CheckPoint FireWall-1 in general. I have only run CheckPoint on Solaris and Nokia's, but what I can tell you is still valid for consideration: Their product is a good product. Very powerful and fairly easy to use Their included management GUI is only for Windows. An X-GUI was available but cost extra. Their support has sucked hard in the recent past, especially if you're not in a major metropolis. Perhaps this have gotten better in the last 6-8months, I know they were trying. Their GUI is very easy to use... but maintenance takes a bit of thought... ie. you can get rulesets working quickly and easily but keeping the ruleset maintainable is difficult because of the ease-of-use: Groups can be created within Groups, etc... This causes issues in figuring out what is REALLY there, and can add a lot of load to the boxes. You have to be dilligent in policy as to how groups can be used (eg. stating that groups cannot be created within groups, each rule has it's own groups which have devices and networks only, or whatever) The Log-viewer sucks if you have several very active firewalls. It can take forever to show you anything. Other than that, I liked their stuff. I'd prefer Linux 2.4 NetFilter personally, because you can set it up to be very easy to read and modify, but it's lower-level. GUI stuff can get out of hand too easily and allow people to make changes that shouldn't be... But that's just me. OTOH, the GUI is a nice front-end for those who fear scripts and CLI. On Thu, 02 May 2002 17:40:32 -0400 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have an opinion on CheckPoint Software's CHECKPOINT FIREWALL on linux? I'm interested in your opinions and perhaps better suggestions than checkpoint's offering. Thank you, in advance. -- *** *** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux 5:37pm up 50 days, 22:52, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.12, 0.17 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: FreeSCO vs. SmoothWall
Things I like to look for in Firewall solutions: Are they connection tracking (ie. do they use Linux 2.4 kernel)? Smoothwall DID NOT last I knew. I don't know anything about Freesco. On Wed, 22 May 2002 12:00:28 -0400 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/22/2002 10:50 AM, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: I'm in the process of setting up a firewall/router box, and i've reduced my choices to Freesco Smoothwall. I'd like some input from anyone who has used them on pro's cons. thanks! Freesco was a piece of cake to set up to use my cable modem. If you want to export some services, port forwarding is easy enough. It just plain runs. It painlessly handled Comcast's migration from the @home service to their own comcast.net service. Gets my IP via DHCP. I've got it running on a P100 with 32 MB Ram, 2 NICs and a floppy. No hd required. Haven't tried Smoothwall. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
On Wednesday 22 May 2002 23:17, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: I am interested in the answer too. At the risk of starting a small bush fire, I'd suggest cease flagellating yourself with SuSE and try a nice Debian like Libranet. The point here is that I dislike almost as much as I do Suse/Mandrake, its still in the last century. The only distro I had great sucess with was Caldera, I even liked LTP, I could and did work with them, hence my interest in dep's suggestion. Case in point: I dloaded xcdroast alpha 10 and ancillary libs for SuSE 8.0. They installed OK, but even with the no-root option selected SuSE 8.0 refuses to let me run xcdroast in user. Now this is a point where I had complete success, always have with xcdroast, where others have not. I have Xcdroast working fine as a user but not recognising the reader. On the otherhand Koncd does see a reader ?? BUT! go into root and set it up, bingo it crashes. I then dloaded alpha 10 and ancillary libs from Debian.org and installed it in Libranet 2.0.2. It works fine. And it recognizes my DVD as a SCSI device. There are other points with the suse/mandrake too in that I have graet difficulty with video streaming progs. I need a combination of programs some work fine in Suse and not in mandrake or vice versa. I retried Caldera recently as 3.1.1 and most of the programs installed fine and dvd was recognised. Updating however was a nightmare and no interest from the company. As I said to dep a while ago it like Sir Lancelot and the Holy Grail, searching for the; what I call perfect distro for me, the others all want to foist on me a set of rules and assumptions. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Caldera 3.1.1
On Wednesday 22 May 2002 23:18, Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi gang! Anybody had any experience installing 3.1.1? In other words, does it seem like a well-assembled distro? Thanks Geez, Tony where yer bin mate. Both of us over the years have 'talked' and I guess i know a few things that you require, 3.1.1 is not one of them. Unless you like being frustrated at not being able to update easily. They went backwards and still are going that way since 2.4.. The door is that way, Sir grin -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 06:23:29AM +1000, Keith Antoine wrote: ... Memory on my part is one of my downfalls. However was there not a release before the eDesktop 2.4 that was just a plain Caldera 2.4 ? Was this not the best release of all, or am I getting mixed up again. If so I do have the eD 2.4. At what stage was the LTP release I had success with, after Ed2.4 or before, i.e after 2.4 and prior to 3.0. The release order of the 2+ versions we've used as I remember it was: OpenLinux 2.2 # we skipped this one -- rushed to make the first LinuxWorld OpenLinux 2.3 eServer 2.3 # last to use LILO eDesktop 2.4# first to use GRUB OpenLinux 3.1 Workstation and Server OpenLinux 3.1.1 Workstation and Server freebsd 4.5 (whoops not Caldera, but perhaps where I'm headed as it installs easily without graphics, and does all the server things I need :-). Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``We maintain that the very foundation of our way of life is what we call free enterprise,'' said Cash McCall, but when one of our citizens show enough free enterprise to pile up a little of that profit, we do our best to make him feel that he ought to be ashamed of himself. -- Cameron Hawley ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
IIRC, Caldera released them in this order. Desktop -- OpenLinux 2.3 eDesktop 2.4 Linux Technology Preview(LTP) W3.1 W3.1.1 Server - eServer 2.3 eServer 2.3.1 (had some updates and patches) S3.1 S3.1.1 I'm not sure what was released by Caldera prior to that because I've only been using Caldera for a little over 2 years. I agree that eD2.4 was a very stable and updatable distro. As far as W3.x is concerned, I'm not very happy with it. It works, but I'd like to have some of the latest libs to run 3D games. These have to be installed and/or updated by tarballs. I'd also like to try out KDE3(KDE3.0.1 has just been released today). Caldera used to make rpms for each stable(and some beta) releases of KDE. The last rpm package made by Caldera for KDE was KDE2.2.1. Granted, I could compile KDE QT from tarballs, but have you ever done this on a P200mmx with 64MB of ram? I don't have time to do this and after it's done to find I didn't do it right(Murphy's Law) and have to do it again. Well, I hope that either Caldera changes, or I'm going to have to change. I'd like to see this project succeed, but ongoing package updates are crucial to the life of a distro. Jim On Wednesday, May 22, 2002 3:23, Keith Antoine wrote: snip Memory on my part is one of my downfalls. However was there not a release before the eDesktop 2.4 that was just a plain Caldera 2.4 ? Was this not the best release of all, or am I getting mixed up again. If so I do have the eD 2.4. At what stage was the LTP release I had success with, after Ed2.4 or before, i.e after 2.4 and prior to 3.0. -- 3:42pm up 16 days, 5:03, 3 users, load average: 0.16, 0.03, 0.02 Running Caldera W3.1 - Linux - because life is too short for reboots... ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
On Wednesday 22 May 2002 01:23 pm,Keith Antoine wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 08:47, Richard R. Sivernell wrote: Skippy do you need the original ed 2.4 cd ? I have a one copy here and there are several in a store thelast time I looked. I can burn a copy if you need it. cheers Memory on my part is one of my downfalls. However was there not a release before the eDesktop 2.4 that was just a plain Caldera 2.4 ? Was this not the best release of all, or am I getting mixed up again. If so I do have the eD 2.4. At what stage was the LTP release I had success with, after Ed2.4 or before, i.e after 2.4 and prior to 3.0. Hey SkippyDude; too much time in the sun for you ;-) eD 2.4 = Caldera 2.4 = COL2.4 LTP = just after 2.4; I'm still running this with lots of upgrades. This is why I asked dep about wasn't 3.1 supposed to be 2.4 with all the stuff improved. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: KDE 3.0.1 is out
Does it still suck? ;) On Wed, 22 May 2002, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 on some of the mirrors... snarfing it now ;) -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
At 01:47 PM 5/22/02 -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: The release order of the 2+ versions we've used as I remember it was: OpenLinux 2.2 # we skipped this one -- rushed to make the first LinuxWorld OpenLinux 2.3 eServer 2.3 # last to use LILO eDesktop 2.4# first to use GRUB ...also when they replaced KPPP with KsaferPPP, as I recall? And it was between 2.x and 3.x they brought out LTP. With that, I wonder if the perfect distro people are remembering isn't kind of a combination of 2.3, 2.4 and LTP, as some started losing patience with Caldera at 2.4, while others held on till the 3.1 controversy. OpenLinux 3.1 Workstation and Server OpenLinux 3.1.1 Workstation and Server freebsd 4.5 (whoops not Caldera, but perhaps where I'm headed as it installs easily without graphics, and does all the server things I need :-). Bill Stuart Biggerstaff Linda Hall Library of Science Engineering Technology 5109 Cherry St. Kansas City, MO 64110 Phone: (816) 926-8748 (800) 662-1545 x748 FAX:(816) 926-8785 URL:www.lindahall.org ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Maybe
On Wed, 22 May 2002 07:20:51 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2002 23:21:35 + begin Ronnie Gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: OK, then how about the open p tags. ??? There's no open p tags in the linuxbooks.pananix.com/basic/toc.html This is a whole separate tree from my pananix site. -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. David Have you looked at Quanta plus. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
Scribbling feverishly on May 22, Stuart Biggerstaff managed to emit: At 01:47 PM 5/22/02 -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: The release order of the 2+ versions we've used as I remember it was: OpenLinux 2.2 # we skipped this one -- rushed to make the first LinuxWorld OpenLinux 2.3 eServer 2.3 # last to use LILO eDesktop 2.4# first to use GRUB ...also when they replaced KPPP with KsaferPPP, as I recall? And it was between 2.x and 3.x they brought out LTP. With that, I wonder if the perfect distro people are remembering isn't kind of a combination of 2.3, 2.4 and LTP, as some started losing patience with Caldera at 2.4, while others held on till the 3.1 controversy. Of all the releases, I preferred eDesktop 2.4 the most. Kurt -- The years of peak mental activity are undoubtedly between the ages of four and eighteen. At four we know all the questions, at eighteen all the answers. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Installation Guide for OO
And what if OOo won't open it G - which it didn't! Matthew Carpenter wrote: On Tue, 07 May 2002 07:56:18 -0600 BOF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that in order to use this, you have to have Open Office installed as it is in an open office file format. ROFL -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: KDE 3.0.1 is out
Been running it for a week ;-) On Wednesday 22 May 2002 05:49 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 on some of the mirrors... snarfing it now ;) -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1+, kernel 2.4.18-preempt, KDE 3.0.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 4:00pm up 1 day, 20:23, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 It's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Caldera 3.1.1
On Wed, 22 May 2002 14:50:14 -0700 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 01:43 pm,Keith Antoine wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 23:18, Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi gang! Anybody had any experience installing 3.1.1? In other words, does it seem like a well-assembled distro? Thanks Geez, Tony where yer bin mate. Both of us over the years have 'talked' and I guess i know a few things that you require, 3.1.1 is not one of them. Unless you like being frustrated at not being able to update easily. They went backwards and still are going that way since 2.4.. The door is that way, Sir grin Geeze Looeeze Skipmeister, whadda ya tryin' t do t me?? Everybody's got me enthused about 3.1.1 and now you tell me it is bad news??? What do you mean that it won't update?? Inquiring minds want to know. In the big picture, WS 3.1.1 is a really nice distribtuion. However, it's already getting to feel dated. If you really gotta' have a nice, up-to-date, user friendly distro... go SUSE 8.0. Simply breath taking. -- * * Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux 7:28pm up 71 days, 41 min, 5 users, load average: 0.10, 0.14, 0.10 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Caldera 3.1.1
I downloaded the 3 cd's, which installed flawlessly, then after playing for a while I ran the caldera update script, which ran, but had many errors downloading rpm's, BUT I kept at it, just pressing 'next' over and over until it completed, and the rpm's were all installed. Worked fine, but a bit time and mouse finger consuming. My one beef (other than the price!) right now is the inability to install the yahoo messenger rpm; dependency problems. I went with gaim instead. works well. Caldera 3.1.1 is stable and works well so far. Netscape 4.7, pretty dated but stable. Old Mozilla, but it works. I updated to a different directory without problem, so have 2 mozillas installed. Opera 6 works well. Sylpheed mail/news installs fine. Xfce and Icewm both installed from source fine, and were easily added to the login session menu. On Wed, 22 May 2002 14:50:14 -0700 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 01:43 pm,Keith Antoine wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 23:18, Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi gang! Anybody had any experience installing 3.1.1? In other words, does it seem like a well-assembled distro? Thanks Geez, Tony where yer bin mate. Both of us over the years have 'talked' and I guess i know a few things that you require, 3.1.1 is not one of them. Unless you like being frustrated at not being able to update easily. They went backwards and still are going that way since 2.4.. The door is that way, Sir grin Geeze Looeeze Skipmeister, whadda ya tryin' t do t me?? Everybody's got me enthused about 3.1.1 and now you tell me it is bad news??? What do you mean that it won't update?? Inquiring minds want to know. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Ken M ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: FreeSCO vs. SmoothWall
On Wednesday 22 May 2002 01:24 pm, Net Llama! wrote: snip Two questions: 1) Do you know where I can get the extra modules package? Seems like its disapeared since freesco changed domains, and i need the eepro100 module for my NICs. The freesco site? As I said, it just worked for me. The base package had the modules I needed. 2) Is it simply a matter of copying the floppy image to a HD, or how involved is it to get this running somewhere other than the floppy? Don't know this either. I boot from floppy. Everything's on a RAM disk, the only time it touches the floppy is to boot. The only time it boots is after a power outage, (and after Home went belly up). I've booted it less than 10 times since orignally set up 2 years ago (yeah, our power rarely goes out -- knock wood). I've got a copy of it's config on my hard drive and an extra floppy as backup. What's wrong with booting from floppy? -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1+, kernel 2.4.18-preempt, KDE 3.0.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 4:00pm up 1 day, 20:23, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 It's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Caldera 3.1.1
On Wednesday 22 May 2002 03:30 pm,Jerry McBride wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2002 14:50:14 -0700 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 01:43 pm,Keith Antoine wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 23:18, Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi gang! Anybody had any experience installing 3.1.1? In other words, does it seem like a well-assembled distro? Thanks Geez, Tony where yer bin mate. Both of us over the years have 'talked' and I guess i know a few things that you require, 3.1.1 is not one of them. Unless you like being frustrated at not being able to update easily. They went backwards and still are going that way since 2.4.. The door is that way, Sir grin Geeze Looeeze Skipmeister, whadda ya tryin' t do t me?? Everybody's got me enthused about 3.1.1 and now you tell me it is bad news??? What do you mean that it won't update?? Inquiring minds want to know. In the big picture, WS 3.1.1 is a really nice distribtuion. However, it's already getting to feel dated. If you really gotta' have a nice, up-to-date, user friendly distro... go SUSE 8.0. Simply breath taking. H. Are you on the SuSE list? I follow it and there seems to be a moderate amount of angst with various things about 8.0. So I've been reluctant to spend my time on it. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
From a stability standpoint 1.2 and 1.3 totally rocked. It bugged me that the glibc issues made my boxes totally incompatible with everyone else's, but judging from the wailing RH users were doing about the early glibc2 releases I'm really glad I missed that evilness. On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 16:57, Bob Hemus wrote: Kurt Wall wrote: Scribbling feverishly on May 22, Stuart Biggerstaff managed to emit: At 01:47 PM 5/22/02 -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: The release order of the 2+ versions we've used as I remember it was: OpenLinux 2.2 # we skipped this one -- rushed to make the first LinuxWorld OpenLinux 2.3 eServer 2.3 # last to use LILO eDesktop 2.4# first to use GRUB ...also when they replaced KPPP with KsaferPPP, as I recall? And it was between 2.x and 3.x they brought out LTP. With that, I wonder if the perfect distro people are remembering isn't kind of a combination of 2.3, 2.4 and LTP, as some started losing patience with Caldera at 2.4, while others held on till the 3.1 controversy. Of all the releases, I preferred eDesktop 2.4 the most. Kurt -- Did you folks forget about COL 1.3? Bob -- A wise man can see more from the bottom of a well, than a fool can see from a mountain top. Unknown ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Caldera 3.1.1
On Wed, 22 May 2002 14:50:14 -0700 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 01:43 pm,Keith Antoine wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 23:18, Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi gang! Anybody had any experience installing 3.1.1? In other words, does it seem like a well-assembled distro? Thanks Geez, Tony where yer bin mate. Both of us over the years have 'talked' and I guess i know a few things that you require, 3.1.1 is not one of them. Unless you like being frustrated at not being able to update easily. They went backwards and still are going that way since 2.4.. The door is that way, Sir grin Geeze Looeeze Skipmeister, whadda ya tryin' t do t me?? Everybody's got me enthused about 3.1.1 and now you tell me it is bad news??? What do you mean that it won't update?? Inquiring minds want to know. I think Skippy is just trying to tell me what we all learned along the way. Caldera was never especially good at providing updates (except for security), and the Caldera file setup was sufficiently different, that most RPMS would not work without major surgery. If you want an upgradable system, try RedHat/Mandrake or Debian (updates for most things available), Slackware (somewhat fewer choices. Or gentoo (if you can tolerate updates from source), but I'm not supposed to say that out loud. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
kernel question?
May I upgrade my kernel, or remove it and replace it, with the linux-2.4.18.tar.bz2 from the LFS site as I would a patch? Bob -- I just heard that photons have mass. I didn't even know they were Catholics. Don Geddis ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: kernel question?
Neither really. You should never remove a working kernel until you have a known good replacement. Robt. Hemus wrote: May I upgrade my kernel, or remove it and replace it, with the linux-2.4.18.tar.bz2 from the LFS site as I would a patch? Bob -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:25pm up 34 days, 1:18, 3 users, load average: 0.06, 0.10, 0.08 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
On Thursday 23 May 2002 06:47, Bill Campbell wrote: OpenLinux 2.2 # we skipped this one -- rushed to make the first LinuxWorld OpenLinux 2.3 eServer 2.3 # last to use LILO eDesktop 2.4# first to use GRUB OpenLinux 3.1 Workstation and Server OpenLinux 3.1.1 Workstation and Server freebsd 4.5 (whoops not Caldera, but perhaps where I'm headed as it installs easily without graphics, and does all the server things I need :-). Bill Did LTP come between 2.4 and 3.1 ? -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
Keith Antoine wrote: On Thursday 23 May 2002 06:47, Bill Campbell wrote: OpenLinux 2.2 # we skipped this one -- rushed to make the first LinuxWorld OpenLinux 2.3 eServer 2.3 # last to use LILO eDesktop 2.4# first to use GRUB OpenLinux 3.1 Workstation and Server OpenLinux 3.1.1 Workstation and Server freebsd 4.5 (whoops not Caldera, but perhaps where I'm headed as it installs easily without graphics, and does all the server things I need :-). Bill Did LTP come between 2.4 and 3.1 ? yup -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:25pm up 34 days, 1:18, 3 users, load average: 0.06, 0.10, 0.08 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
backing up a laptop
Greetings, I've got a bit of a problem on my hands. I've got a laptop with a 4GB drive, that currently has about 1.7GB free (less than half). It has a CDROM(not a burner) floppy drive. Thus, the only way I can get files on or off the HD, is via the floppy or with scp (ssh). The HD is partitioned so that hda1 is /boot, hda2 is swap, and hda3 is / What I want to do is backup the entire disk, however since I don't have enough free space on the HD, i can't just create one big tarball. Does anyone know of a way to pipe the output from tar to scp so that i could automatically dump the tarball onto a remote box? I've been pooring through the tar scp man pages and can't find any way of doing this. If anyone has any alternate solutions, i'd be eager to hear them as well. thanks! -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:25pm up 34 days, 1:18, 3 users, load average: 0.06, 0.10, 0.08 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
On Thursday 23 May 2002 07:15, Jim Conner wrote: IIRC, Caldera released them in this order. Desktop -- OpenLinux 2.3 eDesktop 2.4 Linux Technology Preview(LTP) W3.1 W3.1.1 Right thought ltp was in that order. I'm not sure what was released by Caldera prior to that because I've only been using Caldera for a little over 2 years. I agree that eD2.4 was a very stable and updatable distro. As far as W3.x is concerned, I'm not very happy with it. It works, but I'd like to have some of the latest libs to run 3D games. These have to be installed and/or updated by tarballs. I'd also like to try out KDE3(KDE3.0.1 has just been released today). Caldera used to make rpms for each stable(and some beta) releases of KDE. The last rpm package made by Caldera for KDE was KDE2.2.1. Granted, I could compile KDE QT from tarballs, but have you ever done this on a P200mmx with 64MB of ram? I don't have time to do this and after it's done to find I didn't do it right(Murphy's Law) and have to do it again. Well, I hope that either Caldera changes, or I'm going to have to change. I'd like to see this project succeed, but ongoing package updates are crucial to the life of a distro. Well I have at least started , by copying it to a partition on the HD. I also have many rpms that I have done for SuSE 8.0 I am sure that I can use to update this. I am also aware that there is a system whereby one can get a tarball and rpm it staright away. I am fortunate in that I have a _GRUNT_ system in h/w. I run a BIG hardware supplier online and look after his website (http://www.gamedude.com.au), I get everything at cost and he trades the old stuff for me. Athlon XP2000, Soltek MB DDR 1gig, 60 20 gig 7200 HD. So as dep suggested start with 2.4 and go from there, as I also said I am open to suggestions too. I need things to occupy me, -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
begin Keith Antoine's quote: | Ok so I do have the right release disk here. I like grub myself but | most do not, what I am doing is to copy tye disk to HD and start | upgrading it. I also want to alter the install and add a bit in | like, lilo/grub choice install, recognotion of tv cards and camera | memory card readers etc. NO devfs though. Choice of installing a WM | or not. | | Now I am not a software man so I will need _HELP_ and also some | reccomendations/feedback from the list. i propose that the resulting distribution be called skippy, and i for one will rush to put it on every machine here. also, 2.4 had both lilo and grub, though the latter was the default, i believe. i remember distinctly not liking the change, but being satisfied that lilo was also provided. and i believe that the version they provided actually worked. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
On Thursday 23 May 2002 07:46, Tony Alfrey wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 01:23 pm,Keith Antoine wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 08:47, Richard R. Sivernell wrote: Skippy do you need the original ed 2.4 cd ? I have a one copy here and there are several in a store thelast time I looked. I can burn a copy if you need it. cheers Memory on my part is one of my downfalls. However was there not a release before the eDesktop 2.4 that was just a plain Caldera 2.4 ? Was this not the best release of all, or am I getting mixed up again. If so I do have the eD 2.4. At what stage was the LTP release I had success with, after Ed2.4 or before, i.e after 2.4 and prior to 3.0. Hey SkippyDude; too much time in the sun for you ;-) eD 2.4 = Caldera 2.4 = COL2.4 LTP = just after 2.4; I'm still running this with lots of upgrades. This is why I asked dep about wasn't 3.1 supposed to be 2.4 with all the stuff improved. AFAIAC its no improvement, especially with kde-2.1.1 and no upgrading. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: backing up a laptop
what about mounting a share (NFS or Samba) and making the tarbal on it? Bill Day Linux 2.2.20-1tr i586 8:10pm up 7 days, 19:24, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.00, 0.00 - Original Message - From: Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 9:34 PM Subject: backing up a laptop Greetings, I've got a bit of a problem on my hands. I've got a laptop with a 4GB drive, that currently has about 1.7GB free (less than half). It has a CDROM(not a burner) floppy drive. Thus, the only way I can get files on or off the HD, is via the floppy or with scp (ssh). The HD is partitioned so that hda1 is /boot, hda2 is swap, and hda3 is / What I want to do is backup the entire disk, however since I don't have enough free space on the HD, i can't just create one big tarball. Does anyone know of a way to pipe the output from tar to scp so that i could automatically dump the tarball onto a remote box? I've been pooring through the tar scp man pages and can't find any way of doing this. If anyone has any alternate solutions, i'd be eager to hear them as well. thanks! -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:25pm up 34 days, 1:18, 3 users, load average: 0.06, 0.10, 0.08 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/02 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Caldera 3.1.1
Tony Alfrey wrote: H. Are you on the SuSE list? I follow it and there seems to be a moderate amount of angst with various things about 8.0. So I've been reluctant to spend my time on it. I have SuSE 8 on my lab rat where I too reluctantly spend time with it. Its latest stunt: I installed XCDRoast alpha 10 and the necessary updated libs. When I later installed a different app, YAST decided it did not like the updated XCDRoast and its libs and reinstalled the old versions. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera Linux 2.4 System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: backing up a laptop
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 06:34:15PM -0700, Net Llama! wrote: Greetings, I've got a bit of a problem on my hands. I've got a laptop with a 4GB drive, that currently has about 1.7GB free (less than half). It has a CDROM(not a burner) floppy drive. Thus, the only way I can get files on or off the HD, is via the floppy or with scp (ssh). The HD is partitioned so that hda1 is /boot, hda2 is swap, and hda3 is / What I want to do is backup the entire disk, however since I don't have enough free space on the HD, i can't just create one big tarball. Does anyone know of a way to pipe the output from tar to scp so that i could automatically dump the tarball onto a remote box? I've been pooring through the tar scp man pages and can't find any way of doing this. If anyone has any alternate solutions, i'd be eager to hear them as well. There are several ways to do this, most have to do with networking unless you want to play with PCMCIA removable media, FireWire, or other goodies. Some possibilites, not in order of efficiency, but as I'm thinking of them: NFS mount a directory on another machine, then use a command like this: cd / find ./boot ./ -xdev | cpio -pdumv $nfsmounteddir Use secure copy, scp, but I don't think it has the ability to restrict the copy to a single device as the ``-xdev'' option to find allows. Rsync is an excellent method although it might be a bit slow the first time, and it might run out of memory at some point. It does have the ability to limit transfers to one file system. It's also better to run rsync as a server on the remote system rather than use ssh assuming that you're on a reasonably secure network. Assuming that you've set up the server, and have laptop_update defined in /etc/rsyncd.conf on that system: cd / rsync -x -var --delete ./ ./boot remotesys::laptop_update This will transfer only those files that have changed, deleting anything that's on the server, but not on the laptop. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``We maintain that the very foundation of our way of life is what we call free enterprise,'' said Cash McCall, but when one of our citizens show enough free enterprise to pile up a little of that profit, we do our best to make him feel that he ought to be ashamed of himself. -- Cameron Hawley ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: KDE 3.0.1 is out
Keith Antoine wrote: On Thursday 23 May 2002 09:30, Tim Wunder wrote: Been running it for a week ;-) AND ? He's still waiting for KMail to start up ;) -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:50pm up 34 days, 1:43, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.10, 0.11 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: backing up a laptop
No file servers available. :( William F. Day wrote: what about mounting a share (NFS or Samba) and making the tarbal on it? Bill Day Linux 2.2.20-1tr i586 8:10pm up 7 days, 19:24, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.00, 0.00 - Original Message - From: Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 9:34 PM Subject: backing up a laptop Greetings, I've got a bit of a problem on my hands. I've got a laptop with a 4GB drive, that currently has about 1.7GB free (less than half). It has a CDROM(not a burner) floppy drive. Thus, the only way I can get files on or off the HD, is via the floppy or with scp (ssh). The HD is partitioned so that hda1 is /boot, hda2 is swap, and hda3 is / What I want to do is backup the entire disk, however since I don't have enough free space on the HD, i can't just create one big tarball. Does anyone know of a way to pipe the output from tar to scp so that i could automatically dump the tarball onto a remote box? I've been pooring through the tar scp man pages and can't find any way of doing this. If anyone has any alternate solutions, i'd be eager to hear them as well. thanks! -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:55pm up 34 days, 1:48, 3 users, load average: 0.17, 0.07, 0.09 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: backing up a laptop
Net Llama! wrote: Greetings, I've got a bit of a problem on my hands. I've got a laptop with a 4GB drive, that currently has about 1.7GB free (less than half). It has a CDROM(not a burner) floppy drive. Thus, the only way I can get files on or off the HD, is via the floppy or with scp (ssh). The HD is partitioned so that hda1 is /boot, hda2 is swap, and hda3 is / What I want to do is backup the entire disk, however since I don't have enough free space on the HD, i can't just create one big tarball. Does anyone know of a way to pipe the output from tar to scp so that i could automatically dump the tarball onto a remote box? I've been pooring through the tar scp man pages and can't find any way of doing this. If anyone has any alternate solutions, i'd be eager to hear them as well. thanks! You didn't say whether you had an available tape drive on another machine or not, but tar can be redirected to a remote device on another machine using rsh to connect. Even if you don't have a tape drive, you can write the tarball to a remote file on disk. Use the --file=HOSTNAME:/DEV/FILE NAME syntax to connect to a remote device. From the info tar page: `tar' will complete the remote connection, if possible, and prompt you for a username and password. If you use `--file=@HOSTNAME:/DEV/FILE NAME', `tar' will complete the remote connection, if possible, using your username as the username on the remote machine. If the archive file name includes a colon (`:'), then it is assumed to be a file on another machine. If the archive file is `USER@HOST:FILE', then FILE is used on the host HOST. The remote host is accessed using the `rsh' program, with a username of USER. If the username is omitted (along with the `' sign), then your user name will be used. (This is the normal `rsh' behavior.) It is necessary for the remote machine, in addition to permitting your `rsh' access, to have the `/usr/ucb/rmt' program installed. If you need to use a file whose name includes a colon, then the remote tape drive behavior can be inhibited by using the `--force-local' option. -- Andrew Mathews 8:05pm up 11 days, 19:46, 7 users, load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00 I think my career is ruined! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Caldera 3.1.1
On Thursday 23 May 2002 11:47, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: Tony Alfrey wrote: H. Are you on the SuSE list? I follow it and there seems to be a moderate amount of angst with various things about 8.0. So I've been reluctant to spend my time on it. I have SuSE 8 on my lab rat where I too reluctantly spend time with it. Its latest stunt: I installed XCDRoast alpha 10 and the necessary updated libs. When I later installed a different app, YAST decided it did not like the updated XCDRoast and its libs and reinstalled the old versions. Thats not the only thing it does, I installed a few non Suse tarballs etc plus the latest xcdroast. I had crapped on all of them to the extent that i have had to reinstall cdrecordtools 3 times so far. It also just reinstalled some xine and other streaming video packages. No it and Mandrake are not on my Xmas list any longer. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: backing up a laptop
On Wed, 22 May 2002 18:34:15 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, I've got a bit of a problem on my hands. I've got a laptop with a 4GB drive, that currently has about 1.7GB free (less than half). It has a CDROM(not a burner) floppy drive. Thus, the only way I can get files on or off the HD, is via the floppy or with scp (ssh). The HD is partitioned so that hda1 is /boot, hda2 is swap, and hda3 is / What I want to do is backup the entire disk, however since I don't have enough free space on the HD, i can't just create one big tarball. Does anyone know of a way to pipe the output from tar to scp so that i could automatically dump the tarball onto a remote box? I've been pooring through the tar scp man pages and can't find any way of doing this. You didn't mention if it was lan ready... If so, just copy the lot over to the server and then to your backup medium of choice... Otherwise, if it has a parallel port, score yourself a parallel lap-link style cable and transfer it all via PLIP... it'll be slow as hell, but you'll end up with a backup anyways... But ethernet is so much better... :') -- * * Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux 10:34pm up 71 days, 3:47, 5 users, load average: 0.11, 0.16, 0.17 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: backing up a laptop
Jerry McBride wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2002 18:34:15 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, I've got a bit of a problem on my hands. I've got a laptop with a 4GB drive, that currently has about 1.7GB free (less than half). It has a CDROM(not a burner) floppy drive. Thus, the only way I can get files on or off the HD, is via the floppy or with scp (ssh). The HD is partitioned so that hda1 is /boot, hda2 is swap, and hda3 is / What I want to do is backup the entire disk, however since I don't have enough free space on the HD, i can't just create one big tarball. Does anyone know of a way to pipe the output from tar to scp so that i could automatically dump the tarball onto a remote box? I've been pooring through the tar scp man pages and can't find any way of doing this. You didn't mention if it was lan ready... If so, just copy the lot over to Yes, it does have a 10/100 PCMCIA NIC. the server and then to your backup medium of choice... Otherwise, if it has a parallel port, score yourself a parallel lap-link style cable and transfer it all via PLIP... it'll be slow as hell, but you'll end up with a backup anyways... But ethernet is so much better... :') D`oh! Why didn't i think of this? me so stupid thanks! -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:35pm up 34 days, 2:28, 3 users, load average: 0.19, 0.08, 0.07 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Installation Guide for OO
I have that - have had for a while. Someone on the mail list finally gave me the URL. This really should be in the README or INSTALL files! I was poking fun at the fact that another link to some install instructions couldn't be opened in OOo. bof wrote: See http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/instructions.html Brett I. Holcomb wrote: And what if OOo won't open it G - which it didn't! -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
On Thursday 23 May 2002 11:38, dep wrote: i propose that the resulting distribution be called skippy, and i for one will rush to put it on every machine here. Rofl! Er, I think.. also, 2.4 had both lilo and grub, though the latter was the default, i believe. i remember distinctly not liking the change, but being satisfied that lilo was also provided. and i believe that the version they provided actually worked. One point and I have seen chatter about it before BUT: What difference would an i386.rpm have to an i686 and would it be best to do them as i386? Suse rpms will install with Caldera, won't they ? Yep I know the road is going to be long but -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: a crackpot idea i had
On Thursday 23 May 2002 11:38, dep wrote: i propose that the resulting distribution be called skippy, and i for one will rush to put it on every machine here. BTW is there anything specific to the task I am knowingly throwing myself into that I should read ? No sarcastic remarks will be tolerated, like read the Bible and so on. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: KDE 3.0.1 is out
On Wed, 22 May 2002 17:56:54 -0400 (EDT), Net Llama! wrote: Does it still suck? ;) ROFLMAO! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: FreeSCO vs. SmoothWall
On Wednesday 22 May 2002 09:19 pm, Net Llama! wrote: Tim Wunder wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 01:24 pm, Net Llama! wrote: snip 2) Is it simply a matter of copying the floppy image to a HD, or how involved is it to get this running somewhere other than the floppy? Don't know this either. I boot from floppy. Everything's on a RAM disk, the only time it touches the floppy is to boot. The only time it boots is after a power outage, (and after Home went belly up). I've booted it less than 10 times since orignally set up 2 years ago (yeah, our power rarely goes out -- knock wood). I've got a copy of it's config on my hard drive and an extra floppy as backup. What's wrong with booting from floppy? I dunno. I just thought that I'd have to reconfigure everything from scratch if i ever rebooted. Is that not the case? Nope. Once it's configured (and saved), you're done. The only thing I've ever changed on the configuration is the ports I forward. I've never had a hard drive in my Freesco router, and I don't plan on ever putting one in. -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1+, kernel 2.4.18-preempt, KDE 3.0.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 12:00am up 2 days, 4:23, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 It's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
