Re: anybody care to guess?

2002-05-29 Thread Lee

Jay Nugent wrote:
 
 Greetings,
 
 On Tue, 28 May 2002, Net Llama! wrote:
 
  Ahhh..so Caldera has finally thrown in the towel.
 
I don't think so.  I suspect that the 4 distibutions have *finally*
 alligned their distros to meet the LSB specification and can now *share*
 in the manpower cost of releasing package updates (since they should all
 now be able to use the same packages interchangably).
 
This should not sink Caldera, but strenghten it!

Doubtful. The only way you can strengthen Caldera is to fire all of its
management and entire marketing department. No amount of standardization
can compensate for blunders such as the overpriced purchase of SCO then
managing to lose its biggest customer or the pr mess they made out
customer relations and their cowardly retreat from the retail market and
failure to develop a decent desktop. Particularly in light of the
release of Redmond Linux which is the desktop that Caldera should have
produced.
 
  http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=77
 
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Re: dhcp and firewall

2002-05-29 Thread m.w.chang


.. not BEFORE ... (sorry)

m.w.chang wrote:
 maybe I write one myself, but not after I switched to a cable ISP...

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Re: Skippy's project OT

2002-05-29 Thread Lee

Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
 
 W98 acts perfectly with a raid controller card. In fact, W98 is the
 reason billy is forcing XP. The upgrade numbers have not been good
 since W98 was released. W98 will be around for a long time. billy
 boo-boo'd and made a windows version that was fairly stable,(for
 windows).

Ahh,but Billy's upgrade cd will upgrade Win98 first and second edition
to the unstable XP and for the same price you get all the nasty NT based
viri and worms which will require that you buy a copy of whatever comes
after XP to get back W98 stability.
 
 
 
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Re: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage

Am Dienstag, 28. Mai 2002 23:17 schrieb Kurt Wall:
 I was just curious how many and what kind of boxen people have on their
 home networks. For example, I have an AMD 1200 running Windows (yeah,
 whatever), a Pentium II running a heavily-modified Slackware 8.0, a
 Pentium III running an equally heavily-modified Slackware 8.0, and a
 Sparc5 running Solaris 2.8.

 Way OT, naturally...

1 (one)
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Re: Cool Mozilla tricks

2002-05-29 Thread m.w.chang

dhtml menu bar for linux-sxs... :)

Tim Wunder wrote:
 If you're using a current Mozilla, check out 
 http://www.mozilla.org.uk/temp/start/1.0/demos.html

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Re: Cool Mozilla tricks

2002-05-29 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Wed, 29 May 2002 13:51:26 +0800
m.w.chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 dhtml menu bar for linux-sxs... :)

I tried this BrainJar menu in a web site for our school's PTA. Damn was
I suprised how many people did not have a recent browser. They all had
Netscape 4.7x. I suggested to a few that they upgrade. A couple did, and then
I got concerned calls because their bank did not support the 'new' browser.
So, I sadly had to remove the menus...

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Re: OT Video CD

2002-05-29 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

I have MainActor and BroadCast 2000 (before it went away). I don't
do any editing yet. This is what I am starting to look into. But
if the intended VCD player does not plat CD-R discs, I'm dead in the
water. That is why I wanted to do a test. 

On Wed, 29 May 2002 12:26:05 +1000
Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday 29 May 2002 02:05 am, you wrote:
  What do you currently use for video editing?  I'm hoping to do some
  video conversion/possible editing in the future and would like to know
  what others are using and their opinions.
 
  Matt
 
 Whats wrong with MainActor for instance or even mjpegtools.
 
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Fwd: Re: OT Video CD

2002-05-29 Thread Keith Antoine



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Subject: Re: OT Video CD
Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 19:53:53 -0700
From: Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Keith Antoine wrote:
 On Wednesday 29 May 2002 02:05 am, you wrote:
What do you currently use for video editing?  I'm hoping to do some video
conversion/possible editing in the future and would like to know what
others are using and their opinions.

Matt

 Whats wrong with MainActor for instance or even mjpegtools.

Keith, have you used MainActor at all?


Friend and i have been playing with editors and yes we tried MainActor, 
captured from tv and plaed with editor to see how it worked.. Looked great to 
me.


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Re: OT Video CD

2002-05-29 Thread Keith Antoine

On Wednesday 29 May 2002 05:17 pm, you wrote:
 On Tue, 28 May 2002 09:51:45 -0400 (EDT)

 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sorry, all i've got are several hundrede MB images.  You could always
  create your own from a short MPEG.

 OK. Given that I have an MPEG file, how would I best convert it
 to a format for a VCD? Any special concerns when doing the actual burn?

Go to mjpeg.sourceforge.net and they have some short demo vcd's there.


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mozilla and site cert for apache

2002-05-29 Thread m.w.chang


I used mozilla to access my apache server via the https procotol. It 
complained about invalid certificate. I didn't get the same error from 
both IE or netscape 4. I couldn't find an relevant option in mozilla 
preferences. What did I miss?



I followed the www.apache.org's 3 steps in making the cert. Again, the 
error came only with mozilla, not with Netscape 4 or IE.

/var/log/httpd/ssl_engine_log:

How could I know my CA and CN

[29/May/2002 16:25:55 09753] [error] SSL handshake failed (server 
myhost:443, client 999.198.153.999) (OpenSSL library error follows)
[29/May/2002 16:25:55 09753] [error] OpenSSL: error:14094412:SSL 
routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:sslv3 alert bad certificate [Hint: Subject CN 
in certificate not server name or identical to CA!?]

from mozilla:

could not establish an encrypted connection because certificate prsented 
by .homeip.net is invaild or corrupted. Error Code: -8182

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Re: Cool Mozilla tricks

2002-05-29 Thread m.w.chang

Yes. I noticed that when I used mozilla to browser my company's website. 
The website guy refused to entertain mozilla until now. The banks may 
have other security concerns I guess they mostly trust IE and 
branded mozilla (netscape) only.

 Netscape 4.7x. I suggested to a few that they upgrade. A couple did, and then
 I got concerned calls because their bank did not support the 'new' browser.
 So, I sadly had to remove the menus...
 


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Re: mount --bind in /etc/fstab?

2002-05-29 Thread m.w.chang

shm??

Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 How can one accomplish the same as:
 mount --bind /some/path /some/other/path
 in the /etc/fstab file? or is it not possible?

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Re: OT Video CD

2002-05-29 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Wed, 29 May 2002 19:01:55 +1000
Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday 29 May 2002 05:17 pm, you wrote:
  On Tue, 28 May 2002 09:51:45 -0400 (EDT)
 
  Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Sorry, all i've got are several hundrede MB images.  You could always
   create your own from a short MPEG.
 
  OK. Given that I have an MPEG file, how would I best convert it
  to a format for a VCD? Any special concerns when doing the actual burn?
 
 Go to mjpeg.sourceforge.net and they have some short demo vcd's there.

OK. I downloaded the sample that is a PAL VCD called pal-vid-vcd.mpg.

This is the info from that file:

Video 352x288 resolution
Audio MPEG-1 Layer 2 224kbit/s 44100Hz stereo
Size: 929600
Total time: 5.706667

Newbie time: can this be burned directly to the vcd disc? There is a FAQ
at the site, but I could not determine if the file is already processed as
needed and ready to burn. The text at the download said:

Captured TV broadcast - default settings. Strict VCD/SVCD specs.

Do I need to convert this file to a .cdr file to use it with crrdao?


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Re: Cool Mozilla tricks

2002-05-29 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Wed, 29 May 2002 17:09:29 +0800
m.w.chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes. I noticed that when I used mozilla to browser my company's website. 
 The website guy refused to entertain mozilla until now. The banks may 
 have other security concerns I guess they mostly trust IE and 
 branded mozilla (netscape) only.

I usually tell Netscape to pretend to be another browser for these sites.
I just do no want to suggest this to others when they are doing their banking.
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Re: Gramofile problems - can't record anything

2002-05-29 Thread Alan Jackson

On Wed, 29 May 2002 00:06:58 -0400  Tim Wunder wrote:
 Yep.
 For kicks, what's different on your eW3.1 setup than mine? I'm running kernel 
 2.4.18 with the pre-empt kernel patch and glibc 2.2.4. Those are what I've 
 updated since having a working krecord to having a non-working krecord. I'm 
 only trying to use gramofile because krecord appears to be broken for me. 
 Perhaps my krecord and gramofile problems are related. krecord exits with an 
 immediate segfault. gramofile just won't record anything.

I have the stock kernel. 2.4.2

Sounds like the same problem - whatever it is - to me.

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Re: anybody care to guess?

2002-05-29 Thread Collins

On Tue, 28 May 2002 20:17:48 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 modules

Dep,

You gotta do what you gotta do, but I gotta say that flashing ad
banner at the top of your page is total and absolute sh*t.  I don't
think I will visit this site again.

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RE: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread kbb0927

These are all homebrew except the laptops

Celeron 900 Rackmount w/SuSE 7.3 - fileserver
Chicony MP-978 laptop w/K6-300 - WinME/SuSE 7.3
Compaq Armada M700 w/PIII-850 - WinXP Home/SuSE 8.0/RH 7.3
Celeron 850 - WinXP Pro/SuSE 8/SuSE 7.3/RH 7.2/COL 3.1
AMD K6-366 - Win98SE (son's)
Celeron 700 - WinMe/SuSE 8.0  (spn's)
AMD K6-400 - SuSE 8 - internet gateway
Celeron 300 - Win98 SE (young daughter)
Celeron 766 - WinME/SuSE 8.0/RH 7.2
Toshiba Libretto 100CT - WinME (wife's)

Best Regards,

Keith B.



Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was just curious how many and what kind of boxen people have on their
home networks. For example, I have an AMD 1200 running Windows (yeah,
whatever), a Pentium II running a heavily-modified Slackware 8.0, a
Pentium III running an equally heavily-modified Slackware 8.0, and a
Sparc5 running Solaris 2.8.

Way OT, naturally...

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Re: gentoo install whooops

2002-05-29 Thread Collins

On Tue, 28 May 2002 09:56:40 -0500 Richard R. Sivernell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Collins
 
trying to put gentoo on a laptop,
 
 AST P series MMX 150 P I
 2 gig HD   32 meg Mem soon to be 80 meg.
 
 got the  137953280 May 25 00:15 gentoo-i686-1.1a.iso
 and used cdrecord to cdrom I get the following on the cd:
 [root@RickSivernell rick]# ll /mnt/cdrom
 total 126386
 dr-xr-xr-x2 root root 2048 Apr  8 14:41 isolinux
 -r--r--r--1 root root  8119004 Apr  8 14:41
 stage1-ix86-1.1a.tbz2-r--r--r--1 root root 29118177 Apr 
 8 14:41 stage2-i686-1.1a.tbz2-r--r--r--1 root root
 92178692 Apr  8 14:41 stage3-i686-1.1a.tbz2[root@RickSivernell
 rick]# ll /mnt/cdrom/isolinux total 8241
 -r--r--r--1 root root 2048 Apr  8 14:41 boot.catalog
 -r--r--r--1 root root 8552 Apr  8 14:41 isolinux.bin
 -r--r--r--1 root root  585 Apr  8 14:41 isolinux.cfg
 -r--r--r--1 root root  1130925 Apr  8 14:41 kernel
 -r--r--r--1 root root   66 Apr  8 14:41 message.txt
 -r--r--r--1 root root  7295380 Apr  8 14:41 rescue.gz
 [root@RickSivernell rick]# cd /opt/downloads/gentoo
 
 and it is suppose to boot, but does not. I must have done something
 wrong? but what.
 

I have no experience with laptops, unfortunately.  Laptops are a mixed
bag with any distro (YMMV).  I suggest you search the gentoo user list
archives at the following url.

http://fireserver.ath.cx/gentoo/search/index.html

BTW, I'm forwarding to the list.  Doug Hunley apparently has a working
gentoo laptop.

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lycoris

2002-05-29 Thread Ken Moffat

Any opinions on Lycoris linux? Is this the Redmond linux release? I see they are 
selling HP's with it preloaded.
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Re: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread John Voigt

On 05/28/2002 04:17 PM, Kurt Wall wrote:

 I was just curious how many and what kind of boxen people have on their
 home networks. 

1 i486/33 - Slackware 7.1
1 Compq Presario Laptop (AMD K6/2-233) - COL2.3
1 Dell Pent.IV/1.8G - SuSE 7.3/ WinXP ('cause it came with it)
1 Homebrew AMD K6/2-333 - Caldera eD2.4/ Win98SE('cause it came with it)
1 SGI IRIS Indigo XZ4000 - IRIX 5.3
1 (occasionally) Generic Pent.90 - Caldera LTP


Cat5 + Netgear Hub. Dialup only so far as I'm too far out in the country 
to have DSL^H^H^H broadband yet.

HTH,

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Re: OT Video CD

2002-05-29 Thread Net Llama!

On Wed, 29 May 2002, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

 On Tue, 28 May 2002 09:51:45 -0400 (EDT)
 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Sorry, all i've got are several hundrede MB images.  You could always
  create your own from a short MPEG.

 OK. Given that I have an MPEG file, how would I best convert it
 to a format for a VCD? Any special concerns when doing the actual burn?

http://machineofthemonth.org/articles/a22/page4.html

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Re: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread Michael Hipp

It's a great idea. Except I sit right in the middle of 516 acres. So it is 
more than 1km to my nearest neighbor. I couldn't reach a single one of them 
with any ordinary wireless stuff.

Michael

On Tuesday 28 May 2002 11:47 pm, Keith Morse wrote:
 On Tue, 28 May 2002, Michael Hipp wrote:

 [snippage]

  If I could get a landline (cable, DSL), I'd take it in a NY minute. But
  the Sat is a lifesaver otherwise.

 Silly thought here.  Get a business level T-1.  And here's the way to
 justify it.   Get into cahoots with 20 neighbors and act as the
 gateway/pop for a wireless network.   20 users at $60/month should
 cover the cost of most T-1's.

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Re: OT Video CD

2002-05-29 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Wed, 29 May 2002 09:50:24 -0400 (EDT)
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 29 May 2002, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
 
  On Tue, 28 May 2002 09:51:45 -0400 (EDT)
  Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Sorry, all i've got are several hundrede MB images.  You could always
   create your own from a short MPEG.
 
  OK. Given that I have an MPEG file, how would I best convert it
  to a format for a VCD? Any special concerns when doing the actual burn?
 
 http://machineofthemonth.org/articles/a22/page4.html

This is what I was looking for. I see that the mpeg file I downloaded
is not liked by the tool described here. I would, of course, be better
starting at the beginning, but the 'open buy' in Sweden is 7 days, and
I don't have the video capture set up as I want for this yet. Oh well.
This was a summer project that is getting ahead of itself.

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Re: lycoris

2002-05-29 Thread Michael Hipp

It is Remond Linux (but they haven't released one branded as Lycoris yet.)

I used it for some time and might yet go back to it.  It is a very well 
thought-out design. It is a simplified Linux in that alot of stuff someone 
experienced with Linux would expect to find just isn't there.

IMHO, if they would just bundle OpenOffice (and kill off koffice) into it and 
update a few other packages like Mozilla and throw in a few more power-user 
items, it would be the best desktop Linux around. So I'm waiting to see the 
next release.

If you have a spare partition, I'd encourage you to give it a try. It's about 
the easiest install you'll ever do. It installs easier than any version of 
Windows and shows how well desktop LInux *could* be done.

Like someone said, it is what Caldera should have been (less a bit of the 
simplification).

Michael

On Wednesday 29 May 2002 06:51 am, Ken Moffat wrote:
 Any opinions on Lycoris linux? Is this the Redmond linux release? I see
 they are selling HP's with it preloaded.
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Re: lycoris

2002-05-29 Thread Lee

I had the finished version hanging around for six months before I
installed it on my Intel 810. The thing really impressed me. This is the
desktop that Caldera should have built as it seems to be a logical
extension of e2.4's virtues without the bugs. Kernel-wise it's built on
the 2.4.14 kernel. Installation was a snap, and this was on a box that
would not only not install 3.1 or LTP but sent me an error message that
said these two Caldera distros couldn't be installed on the machine
(intel mb with 810e chipset, 366mhz cpu, 512 meg memory). If anything
the installation was a little too easy. Almost Windowese. It did fail to
find my printer and modem, but both were on the menu list during
install. Two feature that really impressed me were the bundled packages
for taking photos and the cd burner. I have a fondness for iomega
burners and haven't had too much luck with them on Linux. Was delighted
to find after installation that the burner package installed and was set
up to identify my burner and burn copies on the fly. The first thing I
did was burn a copy of the Redmond (Lycoris) install cd. A couple of
minor annoyances. The distro only comes with the Mozilla browser. If you
download Netscape 6.2 Mozilla takes it over, but I can live with that
and downloaded Opera as my backup browser. The other weird thing is that
the distro comes bundled with the frontend of the Sane scanner program,
but not the backend.

All in all I think it's a damned good distro. As I said before it's the
desktop Caldera should have made.

Lee





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Re: Gramofile problems - can't record anything

2002-05-29 Thread Tim Wunder

On 5/29/2002 9:51 AM, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote:
snip

 
 Perhaps you should strace them?
 
 

How do I capture the output of strace?
I ran strace krecord  somefilename but the strace info was just displayed on screen.
quickly executes 'man strace'
Oh, damn...nevermind... 

strace -o outputfile krecord

I did it, got the segfault, and 117Kb worth of strace output. Not that it means 
anything to me :-(. You think you could make heads or tails of it? It's here: 
www.thewunders.org/files/krecord.err,  if you're interested in looking at it.

Tim

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Re: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread rplummer

In order of size, but size isn't everything :)

1. AMD 350 running Caldera eD2.4 as webserver
2. Toshiba Sattellite Celeron 4?? running Win98SE
3. AMD 450 Win98SE and Libranet 2.0
4. AMD Duron 800 Win98SE Graphics and Webdesign
5. AMD 1800+  Win98SE, Libranet2.0, Elx pre-gold, Redmond 
(lycoris),  whatever else I can think of to test out. Has an Epox MB, 2 
60G hds and 1 gig ram. 
6. assorted visiting machines including a Mac Laptop on occaision.

All machines except the laptop are Ray-Built. The Webserver began as 
a P90 when Caldera first came out with eD2.4 and has only been down 
for upgrading the box and 2 power outages.  Uptime as of today was 
23 days.  But the modem box says its been connected for 37 days. So 
the counter must have rolled over.

Ray
On 28 May 2002, at 17:17, Kurt Wall wrote:

 I was just curious how many and what kind of boxen people have on their
 home networks. For example, I have an AMD 1200 running Windows (yeah,
 whatever), a Pentium II running a heavily-modified Slackware 8.0, a
 Pentium III running an equally heavily-modified Slackware 8.0, and a
 Sparc5 running Solaris 2.8.
 
 Way OT, naturally...
 
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Re: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread David A. Bandel

On Wed, 29 May 2002 08:53:10 -0500
begin  Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 It's a great idea. Except I sit right in the middle of 516 acres. So it
 is more than 1km to my nearest neighbor. I couldn't reach a single one
 of them with any ordinary wireless stuff.

Guess that's how you define ordinary.  But an amped omni on a tower they
could see with them using unamp'd high gain antennas pointing at you would
work just fine.  The catch would be your terrain  vegetation.  The do
have to have line-of-sight to you.  I currently use this very
configuration to provide connectivity over 5 miles (8 km) with _very_ high
signal strength (in fact, I can use my laptop 3 miles away w/ a 3dbi 2in
square unamp'd extender antenna and still run 11Mbs).

Ciao,

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Re: linux kernel recompile

2002-05-29 Thread Matthew Carpenter

The .spec file is used with rpm to create the .rpm files we all know and
love.  Inside it contains information like package description, files
included, dependencies, configure/make procedures, installation/removal
procedures, etc  Look at an existing one to see what I mean... 
Checkinstall creates these in the process of creating it's RPMs.  I
probably wouldn't take the Kernel spec as the first one to look at and
learn from, tho.

Normally RPM building takes place in /usr/src/OpenLinux (for Caldera).  In
that directory you'll find the following dirs:
RPMS-location of the finished products
SRPMS   -not necessarily used, but where SRPMS are put when built
SPECS   -location of the aforementioned .spec files
SOURCES -location of the tar.gz or .tgz files
BUILD   -temp area (tgz's are untarred and configure/make/make install is
done)

Once it looks the way you want it to look, you type something like the
following command to create binary RPMs

rpm -bb /usr/src/OpenLinux/SPECS/whateverpackage.spec

In the case of the Linux Kernel, this will create a bunch of rpm's,
including kernel-binary, kernel-include, and a lot of hardware-specific
source files.

.config files are the files created by the ./configure process (or, in the
case of the Kernel, make xconfig or make menuconfig, etc...)


Does this all make sense?

On Wed, 29 May 2002 12:25:04 +1000
Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday 29 May 2002 01:42 am, you wrote:
  You might try starting with the Caldera SRPMs for 3.1.1.  They have
  the(rather extensive) spec file and default i386 .config file
  available so you can have a starting point to tweak from...
 
 Umm, but i have no idea at all what to do with such files , but can have
 a look I guess.
 
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Suspicious mail

2002-05-29 Thread Kevin O'Gorman

I just got the oddest mail from someone I don't know.  Not the
usual spam, either.  Here are the main headers

 From: donnagrove23 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Cellspacing
  
 Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
 name=Reso Certification Form.doc
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

There follows only the encoded data of what may be a Word document.
The subject of cellspacing would usually have a slight interest
for me, but I have no idea what a 'Reso Certification' might be.

Anybody else seen this?  If so, you should probably ditch it,
but I'm a bit curious.   Not enough to unpack this thing, but
curious anyway.

++ kevin


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Re: Gramofile problems - can't record anything

2002-05-29 Thread Net Llama!

On Wed, 29 May 2002, Tim Wunder wrote:
 On 5/29/2002 9:51 AM, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote:
 snip
  Perhaps you should strace them?

 How do I capture the output of strace?
 I ran strace krecord  somefilename but the strace info was just displayed on 
screen.
 quickly executes 'man strace'
 Oh, damn...nevermind...

 strace -o outputfile krecord

 I did it, got the segfault, and 117Kb worth of strace output. Not that it means 
anything to me :-(. You think you could make heads or tails of it? It's here: 
www.thewunders.org/files/krecord.err,  if you're interested in looking at it.

I see this (not sure if its the problem though):
readv(3, [{level.highlightBackground:\t#dcdc..., 12757}, {\2269\0,
3}], 2) = 1892
readv(3, 0xb8b4, 2) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily
unavailable)
readv(3, [{c\n*Entry.background:\t#ff\n*En..., 10865}, {\2269\0,
3}], 2) = 2048
readv(3, 0xb8b4, 2) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily
unavailable)

Can you strace gramofile too?  Also, did you build these from source?
That might fix the problem.

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Re: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread Michael Hipp

Hmm. Is this 802.11a/b stuff? I'd like to know more.

Line of sight would take some work here in the hills  trees of Arkansas. But 
who knows.

Michael

On Wednesday 29 May 2002 10:37 am, David A. Bandel wrote:
 On Wed, 29 May 2002 08:53:10 -0500

 begin  Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:
  It's a great idea. Except I sit right in the middle of 516 acres. So it
  is more than 1km to my nearest neighbor. I couldn't reach a single one
  of them with any ordinary wireless stuff.

 Guess that's how you define ordinary.  But an amped omni on a tower they
 could see with them using unamp'd high gain antennas pointing at you would
 work just fine.  The catch would be your terrain  vegetation.  The do
 have to have line-of-sight to you.  I currently use this very
 configuration to provide connectivity over 5 miles (8 km) with _very_ high
 signal strength (in fact, I can use my laptop 3 miles away w/ a 3dbi 2in
 square unamp'd extender antenna and still run 11Mbs).

 Ciao,

 David A. Bandel


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Re: Suspicious mail

2002-05-29 Thread dep

begin  Kevin O'Gorman's  quote:

|  From: donnagrove23 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  Subject: Cellspacing
| 
|  Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
|  name=Reso Certification Form.doc
|  Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

sircam.
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Re: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread David A. Bandel

On Wed, 29 May 2002 11:29:55 -0500
begin  Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 Hmm. Is this 802.11a/b stuff? I'd like to know more.
 
 Line of sight would take some work here in the hills  trees of
 Arkansas. But who knows.

Yep, simple ol' Orinoco cards w/ adapters, LMR-400 cable, and antennas. 
Works great on Linux.

 
 Michael
 
 On Wednesday 29 May 2002 10:37 am, David A. Bandel wrote:
  On Wed, 29 May 2002 08:53:10 -0500
 
  begin  Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:
   It's a great idea. Except I sit right in the middle of 516 acres. So
   it is more than 1km to my nearest neighbor. I couldn't reach a
   single one of them with any ordinary wireless stuff.
 
  Guess that's how you define ordinary.  But an amped omni on a tower
  they could see with them using unamp'd high gain antennas pointing at
  you would work just fine.  The catch would be your terrain 
  vegetation.  The do have to have line-of-sight to you.  I currently
  use this very configuration to provide connectivity over 5 miles (8
  km) with _very_ high signal strength (in fact, I can use my laptop 3
  miles away w/ a 3dbi 2in square unamp'd extender antenna and still run
  11Mbs).
 
  Ciao,
 
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Re: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread Kevin O'Gorman

I've got a few:

1. My wife's PIII-450 running Win Me (she loves it, and it keeps her
   occupied and happy, so what the hell).  Purchased from Pionex
   by way of a QVC daily special value.

2. My laptop (occasionally), and old P-150 from WinBook, dual
   booting Win98 and RH.  I use it rarely any more, it used to
   be a workhorse.

3. My server, many time made over, none of the original parts left,
   originally purchased as a 486-33 at a computer show, back when
   I was running ESIX, and was networking by UUCP.  It's now a
   P-133, 64MB (yeah, I know, a lame server, but it does enough),
   SCSI drives, Jaz, CDROM and 2 NICS

4. My personal machine, purchased from Pionex by way of QVC, also
   a daily special value.  PIII-550, 256MB, mixture of IDE and
   SCSI drives.  2xJaz, CD-R, 2 NICS.  Dual boots to Win 98 mostly
   to read photos off my digital camera, and for special runs of
   an application that doesn't run well for me under Win4Lin.
   The other boot is RH7.1 with Win4Lin (for quicken).

5. Linksys router to protect the Windoze machines, and provides a
   100MB switch for the local machines to share stuff.  That
   uplinks to a 10MB hub and thence to a DSL modem.  There is thus
   an inner 100MB network and an outer 10MB network, which is
   why the Linux boxen have 2 NICs.

++ kevin


On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 07:53:21AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In order of size, but size isn't everything :)
 
 1. AMD 350 running Caldera eD2.4 as webserver
 2. Toshiba Sattellite Celeron 4?? running Win98SE
 3. AMD 450 Win98SE and Libranet 2.0
 4. AMD Duron 800 Win98SE Graphics and Webdesign
 5. AMD 1800+  Win98SE, Libranet2.0, Elx pre-gold, Redmond 
 (lycoris),  whatever else I can think of to test out. Has an Epox MB, 2 
 60G hds and 1 gig ram. 
 6. assorted visiting machines including a Mac Laptop on occaision.
 
 All machines except the laptop are Ray-Built. The Webserver began as 
 a P90 when Caldera first came out with eD2.4 and has only been down 
 for upgrading the box and 2 power outages.  Uptime as of today was 
 23 days.  But the modem box says its been connected for 37 days. So 
 the counter must have rolled over.
 
 Ray
 On 28 May 2002, at 17:17, Kurt Wall wrote:
 
  I was just curious how many and what kind of boxen people have on their
  home networks. For example, I have an AMD 1200 running Windows (yeah,
  whatever), a Pentium II running a heavily-modified Slackware 8.0, a
  Pentium III running an equally heavily-modified Slackware 8.0, and a
  Sparc5 running Solaris 2.8.
  
  Way OT, naturally...
  
  Kurt
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Re: OT Video CD

2002-05-29 Thread Matthew Carpenter

How about converting ASF and DiVX movies to VCD?  My DVD player will
handle CDR/VCD's but not cd's with ASF or DiVX (WMP-style AVI).

On Wed, 29 May 2002 09:50:24 -0400 (EDT)
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 29 May 2002, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
 
  On Tue, 28 May 2002 09:51:45 -0400 (EDT)
  Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Sorry, all i've got are several hundrede MB images.  You could
   always create your own from a short MPEG.
 
  OK. Given that I have an MPEG file, how would I best convert it
  to a format for a VCD? Any special concerns when doing the actual
  burn?
 
 http://machineofthemonth.org/articles/a22/page4.html
 
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Re: 75 days and still perking...

2002-05-29 Thread Matthew Carpenter

That and that wierd voice that keeps telling you to blow up a bus... or
the ability to read minds... or the handy third eye on your kids...  (I
live 80 feet from the main power-towers, so I can joke)

On Tue, 28 May 2002 13:57:37 -0700 (PDT)
Keith Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Geophysically, I'm looked very close 
 to two major power lines and right next to the major electrical trunk
 for our area,  benefits of living next to a power plant. 
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A Classic from DEP

2002-05-29 Thread Michael Hipp

http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=78

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Red Hat

2002-05-29 Thread Randy Donohoe

Article on NewsForge quotes RedHat attorney as saying patents are
defensive, to stop Microsofts from getting them. I wouldn't believe
Microsoft, but I will give Red Hat the benefit of the doubt. Good call,
Linux and Main.
Randy Donohoe


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Keystroke Capture

2002-05-29 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA


Folks,

Does anyone know of a function/product/tool that will allow us to capture
all incoming keystrokes from the keyboard for investigation?

We are getting an intermittent lockup that seems to be triggered by a
keystroke pattern from a particular brand of keyboard and need to decipher
*why*.


In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord,

Tom  :-})

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Re: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread Matthew Carpenter

1 Celeron 300-450 running COLS3.1 with Multimedia packages from COLW
1 P133 running SuSE 7.1 
1 Cyrix 6x86 P120+ running MDK 8.1 (COL3.1.x stiffed this box)
1 Cyrix 6x86 P166+ running Win98 (wife)
1 P150 running MDK 8.0
1 Compaq Armada7800 400MHz running COLW3.1.1
1 PII-400 running MDK 8.1
2 P200 running COLW3.1
1 PII-450 running RH7.1


On Tue, 28 May 2002 17:21:42 -0400 (EDT)
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 1 PII-400 running COL-2.4
 1 PIII-1Ghz running heavily modified COL-3.1.1 (also has windoze 98)
 1 PIII-1Ghz running heavily modified RH-7.3
 1 PII-400 running FreeSCO
 1 PIII-433 (laptop) running RH-7.2
 1 PII-333 (laptop) running RH-6.2
 1 Mac Classic running OS5
 
 On Tue, 28 May 2002, Kurt Wall wrote:
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OT Is this a Sylpheed bug? (was Re: OOo Testimonial)

2002-05-29 Thread Tim Wunder

In threaded view, with Mozilla build# 2002052809 (Win2K), this message shows up as a 
reply to a post by NetLlama! regarding database setup on Win98.

Based on the headers,
quote
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In-Reply-To: ad0urv$uli$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ad0urv$uli$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-pc-linux-gnu)
/quote
this is how it should be threaded. Did you reply to a thread and change the subject 
and thus hose the threading, or did Sylpheed do this on its own?
In other words, is it a Sylpheed bug?

snip the real post

Regards, 
Tim

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Fw: Lycoris

2002-05-29 Thread Michael Hipp


Someone asked about Lycoris. This just came on from their announce list. Interesting 
tidbit on retail space and bundling.

Michael

Begin forwarded message:

Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 11:20:32 -0700
From: jspisak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [rl-announce] Lycoris Desktop/LX Continues Grow in Popularity, Receives


Lycoris Desktop/LX Continues Grow in Popularity, Receives
Favorable Reviews and Hits the Shelves at Fry's Electronics


Redmond, WA - May 29th, 2002 -- In response to the needs of
its customers, Lycoris has begun distribution in the retail space.
Their flagship products, Desktop/LX Personal and Desktop/LX Deluxe,
are now available at Fry's Electronics retailers. Desktop/LX has also
enjoyed continued publicity with reviews in Forbes, The Washington Post 
and Personal Computer World among others. The next few months promise to 
be exciting, as Lycoris prepares to release Update 2 for its popular
operating system and launch its ProductivityPak, a full office suite
based on Open Office.

Desktop/LX was given 4 stars by Barry Shalliday
of Britain's Personal Computer World, and Stephen Manes,
writing for Forbes magazine, gives Desktop/LX the edge over Red Hat,
stating, quot;Desktop/LX made it simple to access Windows systems on
my network; Red Hat never managed that feat.quot; With the
continuing publicity, and more on the way, Lycoris is quickly
establishing itself as a new player in the operating system software
market.

The increasing sales of Desktop/LX have prompted Lycoris to bring
on more staff to accommodate demand for
fulfillment. Desktop/LX sales have already outpaced the cumulative
first quarter numbers in the first two months of the second quarter.

We are thrilled with the wide acceptance of Desktop/LX and with the 
reviews we have recently received.
As we prepare for the release of Update 2, our next version of 
Desktop/LX, as well as our Productivity Pak,
we will continue to make Linux easier, more usable, and more accessible 
for regular people.
We see the launch of our retail channel as the next step in that 
progression, states CTO and Founder, Joseph Cheek.

As more end users make Desktop/LX their choice for desktop
operating system, the Desktop/LX community grows in parallel. Lycoris
has also had to increase the capacity and bandwidth for its Community
Website, lycoris.org to accommodate for
more Desktop/LX users.

With an eye on the future, Lycoris sees retail distribution as a
key to wider acceptance of Desktop/LX as the new choice of desktop
operating system. To that end, Lycoris has secured the first retail
outlet to carry Desktop/LX, Fry's Electronics. With six stores in
Northern California and seven stores in Southern California, four
stores in Texas, two stores in Arizona, and one store in Oregon,
coupled with a dedicated technology market focus, Fry's is a perfect
match for Lycoris as it starts its retail exposure.


About Lycoris

Lycoris, located in Redmond, Washington, was founded in 2000 with
a vision of making Linux simple enough for anyone to use. Lycoris
makes open source applications easy to use and integrates them into
Desktop/LX, their Linux desktop.

About Fry's Electronics

Fry's Electronics, Inc. was founded in 1985 in Sunnyvale,
California in a 20,000 square foot location by the three Fry
brothers, John, Randy, and Dave, and Kathryn Kolder. Fry's is a
closely held private company, and all of the founders are actively
involved in the daily operation of the business. Fry's was founded as
a Silicon Valley retail electronics store in order to provide a
one-stop-shopping environment for the Hi-tech Professional. Fry's has
been keeping Hi-Tech Professionals supplied with products
representing the latest technological trends and advances in the
personal computer marketplace for over 17 years. Fry's retails over
50,000 electronics items within each store.

For Additional Information

Web: A HREF=http://www.lycoris.com/;http://www.lycoris.com/A
Sales:A HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
MediaRelations: A HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
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Lycoris
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+1 805 579-0444 Sales
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Re: linux kernel recompile

2002-05-29 Thread Keith Antoine

On Thursday 30 May 2002 01:57 am, you wrote:
 The .spec file is used with rpm to create the .rpm files we all know and
 love.  Inside it contains information like package description, files
 included, dependencies, configure/make procedures, installation/removal
 procedures, etc  Look at an existing one to see what I mean...
 Checkinstall creates these in the process of creating it's RPMs.  I
 probably wouldn't take the Kernel spec as the first one to look at and
 learn from, tho.

Big SNIP

 Does this all make sense?


Ok! No it really does not, but you writing is gorgeous grin.
I have seen and noted for experimentation that there is a swithch in rpm 
(rpm -ta) that is supposed to make an rpm out of a tarball: rpm -ta 
vcr.xx-xx-x.tar.gz ...I have yet to try it successfully on a file that 
does not have any dependencies but am too busy doing small libs and video 
files with checkinstall.

However i will have to get to see if it does work and also look at making 
rpms for files that do not do a 'make install'.

Might hold onto this and ask when i run into trouble.

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Re: OT Video CD

2002-05-29 Thread Keith Antoine

On Wednesday 29 May 2002 08:03 pm, you wrote:

No idea Roger, but looking at the site and title I would gues its ready to 
burn. Just have to suck it and see.

 OK. I downloaded the sample that is a PAL VCD called pal-vid-vcd.mpg.

 This is the info from that file:

 Video 352x288 resolution
 Audio MPEG-1 Layer 2 224kbit/s 44100Hz stereo
 Size: 929600
 Total time: 5.706667

 Newbie time: can this be burned directly to the vcd disc? There is a FAQ
 at the site, but I could not determine if the file is already processed as
 needed and ready to burn. The text at the download said:

   Captured TV broadcast - default settings. Strict VCD/SVCD specs.

 Do I need to convert this file to a .cdr file to use it with crrdao?

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Re: linux kernel recompile

2002-05-29 Thread Net Llama!

On Thu, 30 May 2002, Keith Antoine wrote:
 Ok! No it really does not, but you writing is gorgeous grin.
 I have seen and noted for experimentation that there is a swithch in rpm
 (rpm -ta) that is supposed to make an rpm out of a tarball: rpm -ta
 vcr.xx-xx-x.tar.gz ...I have yet to try it successfully on a file that
 does not have any dependencies but am too busy doing small libs and video
 files with checkinstall.

 However i will have to get to see if it does work and also look at making
 rpms for files that do not do a 'make install'.

It will only work if the tarball includes a spec file.

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Re: OT Video CD

2002-05-29 Thread Keith Antoine

On Thursday 30 May 2002 02:11 am, you wrote:
 How about converting ASF and DiVX movies to VCD?  My DVD player will
 handle CDR/VCD's but not cd's with ASF or DiVX (WMP-style AVI).

what you need id mplayer and mjpegtools thses will handle those files.

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Re: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread Matthew Carpenter

How is the Gaming Edition anyway?


On Tue, 28 May 2002 19:12:16 -0400
Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 * An AMD K6-450 with Mandrake Gaming Edition (8.1)
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Re: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread Michael Hipp

This might be the way to scatter recording webcams around the farm.

What kind of amp and high gain antennas are you using? Does antenna height matter as 
long as it is line-of-sight?

On Wed, 29 May 2002 12:56:07 -0500
David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 29 May 2002 11:29:55 -0500
 begin  Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:
 
  Hmm. Is this 802.11a/b stuff? I'd like to know more.
  
  Line of sight would take some work here in the hills  trees of
  Arkansas. But who knows.
 
 Yep, simple ol' Orinoco cards w/ adapters, LMR-400 cable, and antennas. 
 Works great on Linux.
 
  
  Michael
  
  On Wednesday 29 May 2002 10:37 am, David A. Bandel wrote:
   On Wed, 29 May 2002 08:53:10 -0500
  
   begin  Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:
It's a great idea. Except I sit right in the middle of 516 acres. So
it is more than 1km to my nearest neighbor. I couldn't reach a
single one of them with any ordinary wireless stuff.
  
   Guess that's how you define ordinary.  But an amped omni on a tower
   they could see with them using unamp'd high gain antennas pointing at
   you would work just fine.  The catch would be your terrain 
   vegetation.  The do have to have line-of-sight to you.  I currently
   use this very configuration to provide connectivity over 5 miles (8
   km) with _very_ high signal strength (in fact, I can use my laptop 3
   miles away w/ a 3dbi 2in square unamp'd extender antenna and still run
   11Mbs).
  
   Ciao,
  
   David A. Bandel
  
  
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RE: OT SCSI drives

2002-05-29 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA


Tony,

It took me a while to find it, because they have changed their website
significantly, and I've been using a hard copy for the last 8-10 years, but
this Seagate URL:
http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/scsirev.html

will give a pretty good run down of the various SCSI terms in use, what they
mean and how they relate.

Adaptec has a pretty good page on mixing wide and narrow SCSI devices
located here:
http://ask.adaptec.com/cgi-bin/adaptec_tic.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_sid
=-36ZDmggp_lva=p_faqid=9p_created=925342076p_sp=cF9ncmlkc29ydD0mcF9yb3df
Y250PTY2MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PSJtaXhpbmcgd2lkZSBhbmQgbmFycm93IGRldmljZXMiJnBf
c2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9MyZwX3Byb2RfbHZsMT1_YW55fiZwX3Byb2RfbHZsMj1_YW55fiZwX2NhdF9s
dmwxPX5hbnl_JnBfc29ydF9ieT1kZmx0JnBfcGFnZT0xp_li=

Couldn't make that any longer, could they?  ;-})


In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord,

Tom  :-})

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 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Alfrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 6:51 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT SCSI drives
 
 
 Can someone briefly explain the differences in SCSI drive pin formats?
 Specifically, I have Seagate 68 pin internal SCSI drives.  I believe 
 that they are the so-called Ultra 2 LVD format.  But there 
 appear to 
 be other SCSI formats that have the exact same connector, for 
 example, 
 something called SCSI-3.  Can someone recommend a simple summary of 
 these various formats?
 Thanks!
 
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Re: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread Tim Wunder

My son loves it. It comes with the Sims, which runs flawlessly. And he even 
got a Windows Racing game to run (can't remember which one off hand  -- need 
for speed?),

On Wednesday 29 May 2002 12:23 pm, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
 How is the Gaming Edition anyway?


 On Tue, 28 May 2002 19:12:16 -0400

 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  * An AMD K6-450 with Mandrake Gaming Edition (8.1)

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Re: lycoris

2002-05-29 Thread Brett I. Holcomb

What makes it the release Caldera should have done? That sounds interesting.

Keith Antoine wrote:

 On Wednesday 29 May 2002 09:51 pm, you wrote:
 Any opinions on Lycoris linux? Is this the Redmond linux release? I see
 they are selling HP's with it preloaded.
 
 Yes it ios the Redmond, renamed, supposedly the releaseCaldera should have
 made. I have a copy here but not installed as yet.
 

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Re: anybody care to guess?

2002-05-29 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on May 29, Collins managed to emit:
 On Tue, 28 May 2002 20:17:48 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  modules
 
 Dep,
 
 You gotta do what you gotta do, but I gotta say that flashing ad
 banner at the top of your page is total and absolute sh*t.  I don't
 think I will visit this site again.

Your loss. Perhaps you could offer to help fix it instead of panning
it?

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Re: OT SCSI drives

2002-05-29 Thread Tony Alfrey

Thanks.  I did find out that my Ultra 2 Wide SCSI controller will also 
run a U160 ( = SCSI 3) drive.  I will study all of this stuff and 
perhaps try to add some notes to the SCSI SXS section.


On Wednesday 29 May 2002 04:43 pm,Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote:
 Tony,

 It took me a while to find it, because they have changed their
 website significantly, and I've been using a hard copy for the last
 8-10 years, but this Seagate URL:
 http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/scsirev.html

 will give a pretty good run down of the various SCSI terms in use,
 what they mean and how they relate.

 Adaptec has a pretty good page on mixing wide and narrow SCSI devices
 located here:
 http://ask.adaptec.com/cgi-bin/adaptec_tic.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.ph
p?p_sid
 =-36ZDmggp_lva=p_faqid=9p_created=925342076p_sp=cF9ncmlkc29ydD0mc
F9yb3df
 Y250PTY2MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PSJtaXhpbmcgd2lkZSBhbmQgbmFycm93IGRldmljZ
XMiJnBf
 c2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9MyZwX3Byb2RfbHZsMT1_YW55fiZwX3Byb2RfbHZsMj1_YW55fiZwX
2NhdF9s dmwxPX5hbnl_JnBfc29ydF9ieT1kZmx0JnBfcGFnZT0xp_li=

 Couldn't make that any longer, could they?  ;-})


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 Tom  :-})

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  -Original Message-
  From: Tony Alfrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 6:51 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: OT SCSI drives
 
 
  Can someone briefly explain the differences in SCSI drive pin
  formats? Specifically, I have Seagate 68 pin internal SCSI drives. 
  I believe that they are the so-called Ultra 2 LVD format.  But
  there appear to
  be other SCSI formats that have the exact same connector, for
  example,
  something called SCSI-3.  Can someone recommend a simple summary
  of these various formats?
  Thanks!
 
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Re: Suspicious mail

2002-05-29 Thread Bill Campbell

On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 01:03:20PM -0400, dep wrote:
begin  Kevin O'Gorman's  quote:

|  From: donnagrove23 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  Subject: Cellspacing
| 
|  Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
|  name=Reso Certification Form.doc
|  Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

sircam.

Sircam is one of the more interesting worms that feed on thw
Microsoft virus, Windows.  It picks random files and documents
from the victim's machine, mailing them to everybody in their
Outhouse address book.  I haven't seen any commentary on this
addressing the fact that the documents mailed out could well be
private, proprietary data, or anything else that one wouldn't
want broadcast all over the Internet.

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Re: Keystroke Capture

2002-05-29 Thread Bill Campbell

On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 09:19:45AM -0700, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote:

Folks,

Does anyone know of a function/product/tool that will allow us to capture
all incoming keystrokes from the keyboard for investigation?

We are getting an intermittent lockup that seems to be triggered by a
keystroke pattern from a particular brand of keyboard and need to decipher
*why*.

One could run ``script'' which captures everything to a file.

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Re: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread Keith Morse

On Wed, 29 May 2002, Michael Hipp wrote:

 This might be the way to scatter recording webcams around the farm.
 
 What kind of amp and high gain antennas are you using? Does antenna height matter as 
long as it is line-of-sight?
 


I hold off on using amps unless strictly necessary.  for the most part the 
parabolic antennaes (24 db)  work fine connecting to and omni (6 db).  Get 
some stuff together and gather some empirical data by doing a site survey.

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Re: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on May 29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] managed to emit:
 Toshiba Libretto 100CT - WinME (wife's)

What's the processor in this one?

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Re: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread Andrew Mathews

Michael Hippo wrote:
 Overall I'm reasonably happy with it. It works much better than I thought it 
 would. It is the *only* affordable broadband out here in the stix.  Costs 
 $60US/month and speeds often exceed 1Mbps. Cost was $650US to get it 
 installed. (I had 128k ISDN for 4 years before that at $190US/month.)
 
 It does have several drawbacks:
 
 - It must gateway through a Win box via a USB connection. Dumb. But my W2k Pro 
 box does an ok job so it isn't really a big problem. Hughes has announced a 
 DW4020 gateway/router box that would do the job currently filled by the Win 
 host box. I'll buy one if they ever ship and price is reasonable. That would 
 put my Linux box on equal footing with Win.

I could live with a sacrificial Windows box on the outside of the 
firewall. Barely.

 - Linux (several distros) really seems to hate the latency aspect. Kmail and 
 Mozilla mail both frequently hang when trying to check mail. Even browsing 
 (Konq, Opera, Moz) is frustrating. I need to learn how to turn the Linux IP 
 stack to better cope with it.
 
 - Hughes has something called FAP. Fair Access Protocol. Except it should be 
 called Punitive Punishment Protocol. What it does is throttle you if you use 
 too much bandwidth in a given time. Like when doing a 650M download of an iso 
 of the latest version of CalderaSuseTiva, I have to set GetRight to a speed 
 limit of 10kB/s or Hughes will FAP me. And the link essentially dies when 
 FAP kicks in. Even browsing stops working, for all intents.

That's the part I'd have real difficulty with. Throttle the bandwidth is 
one thing, to limit it to a 10k connection to download as ISO image 
without incurring the wrath of God is too much. Or are there other ways 
that you know of such as scripting an ftp session to quit after an hour, 
wait 4, go for another hour with regatta, and on and on?

 - Hughes forces you through their proxy server. To accelerate performance. 
 Yeah, right. But the accelerator frequently dies and browsing stops 
 altogether.
 
 - A high latency link causes web pages to sometimes seem slow to load (scads 
 of little tiny files means lots of round-robin requests). But that's mostly 
 not a problem compared to the alternative.

I can handle latency (a bit) since I do very little with a browser, 25% 
browsing, 50% console work. the rest reading mail

 Some good points:
 - The sucker is really, really fast on moderate download sizes (say, 50M). It 
 will often do 150kB/sec.
 - Hughes tech support is pretty good as ISPs go. And the best part is that 
 they are not Earthlink.
 - The thing works in all but the most inclement weather. It takes a heavy 
 downpour to stop it.
 - It beats 24,000 bps dial-up 8 ways to Sunday - which is what I would have 
 otherwise.
 - They're supposed to soon have a $10/month option for a static IP. That would 
 be nice for some things I need to do.

Now that might interesting. I definitely need a fixed ip address

thing to a Windows box?
 
 
 
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Re: Suspicious mail

2002-05-29 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on May 29, Kevin O'Gorman managed to emit:
 I just got the oddest mail from someone I don't know.  Not the
 usual spam, either.  Here are the main headers
 
  From: donnagrove23 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Cellspacing
   
  Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
  name=Reso Certification Form.doc
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
 
 There follows only the encoded data of what may be a Word document.
 The subject of cellspacing would usually have a slight interest
 for me, but I have no idea what a 'Reso Certification' might be.
 
 Anybody else seen this?  If so, you should probably ditch it,
 but I'm a bit curious.   Not enough to unpack this thing, but
 curious anyway.

Sounds like KLEZ.W32

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Re: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread David A. Bandel

On Wed, 29 May 2002 17:29:20 -0500
begin  Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 This might be the way to scatter recording webcams around the farm.
 
 What kind of amp and high gain antennas are you using? Does antenna
 height matter as long as it is line-of-sight?

I'm using a 500mW amp over 100' of LMR-400 w/ a 8dbi omni, pointing at it
I'm using mostly 21 and 24dbi grids or 18dbi flat panels, but at the same
distances I've used 3dbi extenders and gotten good signal (ranges up to
about 3mi/5km).  With two 24dbi grids using 500mW amps you can transmit
and receive up to 30 mi (50km).  Here in Panama, the law allows for up to
4Watts at the antenna.  That would basically allow me to transmit between
any two points over flat terrain using 100' towers.  That's a long way.

antenna height:  OK, you're asking the right question.  An omni, while it
has a horizontal 360 degree fan, has a vertical fan of only about 22
degrees.  So an antenna 1 mile away would theoretically have to be within
100 feet vertically of a perfectly horizontal omni.  In practice, I have
yet to have vertical differences give me any great problem.  OTOH, my
antennae are deliberately over-kill.  And while you shouldn't be able (by
the book) to see the signal from an omni nearly directly below it, you
will.  Reasons: there are small lobes with vertical components, you have a
phenomenon called a ground plane, and you're just too bloody close not to
see a signal.  You'll have to look up the ground plane calculation, but
it's based on the height of the antenna to the ground.  The higher up, the
larger the ground plane.

Also remember, all this 25 degrees vertical, 45 degrees horizontal is
designed so that you'll see a 5db signal within the cone.  But even 3db
could give you an acceptable signal (and that's well outside the cone).

Your biggest problem will be line-of-sight (LOS).  Even a tree branch with
leaves on it will pose a problems (although the signal will pass right
through clear glass).

Caution: most countries don't permit amp'd omnis.  Please check your
country's laws regarding frequencies, power output, and directionalness of
the signal beam (directionalness -- what the hell am I smoking? gotta be a
new word, I should trademark it).

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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Re: linux kernel recompile

2002-05-29 Thread Keith Antoine

On Thursday 30 May 2002 07:37 am, you wrote:
 On Thu, 30 May 2002, Keith Antoine wrote:
  Ok! No it really does not, but you writing is gorgeous grin.
  I have seen and noted for experimentation that there is a swithch in rpm
  (rpm -ta) that is supposed to make an rpm out of a tarball: rpm -ta
  vcr.xx-xx-x.tar.gz ...I have yet to try it successfully on a file
  that does not have any dependencies but am too busy doing small libs and
  video files with checkinstall.
 
  However i will have to get to see if it does work and also look at making
  rpms for files that do not do a 'make install'.

 It will only work if the tarball includes a spec file.

Hell! now he tells me; do you do this on purpose Lonnie, wait and then 
pounce?

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Re: lycoris

2002-05-29 Thread Keith Antoine

On Thursday 30 May 2002 10:13 am, you wrote:
 What makes it the release Caldera should have done? That sounds
 interesting.

 Keith Antoine wrote:
  On Wednesday 29 May 2002 09:51 pm, you wrote:
  Any opinions on Lycoris linux? Is this the Redmond linux release? I see
  they are selling HP's with it preloaded.
 
  Yes it ios the Redmond, renamed, supposedly the releaseCaldera should
  have made. I have a copy here but not installed as yet.

AFAIK it is built on eD2.4 and it is supposedly the release that 3.0 + should 
have been but was not. In upgrades and also the ease of installation plus the 
availabilty of upgrade rpms etc.

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Re: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on May 28, Andrew Mathews managed to emit:
 Kurt Wall wrote:
  Scribbling feverishly on May 28, Andrew Mathews managed to emit:
 snip
  As I wrote in another post, some of us are overachievers. Clearly, the one
  who dies with the most MIPS, wins. You get the Lifetime Achievement award 
  for being able to keep track of SGI's ever-changing product names. ;-)
 
 I knew I had a problem when I started looking for Cray on eBay.

My boss and friend has you all beat:

http://vonhagen.org/collection.html

 No, but it has acquired a bit of resemblance to a cheap vibrating motel 
 bed, just takes a *lot* of quarters. g

That's just downright nasty. ;-)

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Re: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread Michael Hipp

Yes, you could do that. It wouldn't even have to be that extreme.
Usually if you stop using the link for a full clock hour the FAP will
go away. So you could probably do something like start the download at
:05 after, stop it at :55 and resume it an hour later at :05. But I'm
just guessing as I don't really know Hughes' FAP algorithm.

I wrote them some eloquent hatemail saying I thought it was the most
customer-hostile policy I'd ever seen from an ISP. They haven't written
back.


On Wed, 29 May 2002 19:58:13 -0600
Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Michael Hipp wrote:
[snip]
  - Hughes has something called FAP. Fair Access Protocol. Except it
  should be called Punitive Punishment Protocol. What it does is
  throttle you if you use too much bandwidth in a given time. Like
  when doing a 650M download of an iso of the latest version of
  CalderaSuseTiva, I have to set GetRight to a speed limit of 10kB/s
  or Hughes will FAP me. And the link essentially dies when FAP kicks
  in. Even browsing stops working, for all intents.
 
 That's the part I'd have real difficulty with. Throttle the bandwidth
 is one thing, to limit it to a 10k connection to download as ISO image
 
 without incurring the wrath of God is too much. Or are there other
 ways that you know of such as scripting an ftp session to quit after
 an hour, wait 4, go for another hour with regatta, and on and on?
 
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Re: lycoris

2002-05-29 Thread Lee

Start with the install GUI. Pure Caldera. If you didn't know that it was
Redmond you'd swear you were installing e2.4 except it does a better job
of auto detecting. Once installed the GUI bootup is Caldera except that
it says Redmond where Caldera would normally be presented. Once
installed it runs as smooth as silk although a little slow opening up
the bundled Mozilla browser. Put the boot in the mbr for a dual boot and
the boot selection screen is pure caldera.I installed it on a box that
had e2.4 on it, but there were some annoying bugs like Netscape mail
would drop out on an irregular basis when I hit Get Message. That
doesn't happen with Redmond. It has a few things in the distro that are
kind of neat. The cd burner runs straight out of the package with my
iomega burner, so does the camera photo package. And unlike 3.1 getting
the cdrom and floppy icons is not a hassle. All you have to do is drop
and drag the icons out of the My Linux icon. Built on the 2.4.14 kernel
the thing appears to be Super 2.4, but Caldera never went that way and
they missed the boat. It is nice to know that after Caldera folds there
will still be a Caldera like distro out there. 





Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 
 What makes it the release Caldera should have done? That sounds interesting.
 
 Keith Antoine wrote:
 
  On Wednesday 29 May 2002 09:51 pm, you wrote:
  Any opinions on Lycoris linux? Is this the Redmond linux release? I see
  they are selling HP's with it preloaded.
 
  Yes it ios the Redmond, renamed, supposedly the releaseCaldera should have
  made. I have a copy here but not installed as yet.
 
 
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Re: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread M.W.Chang

late reply

Abit BP6 (single C300A450MHz), 128M RAM, Voodoo Banshee, COL 3.1
workstation, broadband sharing, seti@home, learning tool

now tyring to test COL 3.1.1 on a PIII700@933MHz, 512M RAM, GF2-MX400

Kurt Wall wrote:
 
 I was just curious how many and what kind of boxen people have on their
 home networks. For example, I have an AMD 1200 running Windows (yeah,
 whatever), a Pentium II running a heavily-modified Slackware 8.0, a
 Pentium III running an equally heavily-modified Slackware 8.0, and a
 Sparc5 running Solaris 2.8.

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Re: OT How many Boxen?

2002-05-29 Thread Keith Morse

On Wed, 29 May 2002, Kurt Wall wrote:

 My boss and friend has you all beat:
 
 http://vonhagen.org/collection.html


Judas Priest,  He needs a 500KW Generator just to power all that stuff.

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Re: lycoris

2002-05-29 Thread Tim Wunder

IIRC, it's based on 3.1
The Redmond linux betas were hot and heavy during the time that Caldera was 
running their 3.1 beta.
I'm pretty sure Lycoris is based on eW3.1...

Regards, 
Tim

On Thursday 30 May 2002 12:08 am, Keith Antoine wrote:
 On Thursday 30 May 2002 10:13 am, you wrote:
  What makes it the release Caldera should have done? That sounds
  interesting.
 
  Keith Antoine wrote:
   On Wednesday 29 May 2002 09:51 pm, you wrote:
   Any opinions on Lycoris linux? Is this the Redmond linux release? I
   see they are selling HP's with it preloaded.
  
   Yes it ios the Redmond, renamed, supposedly the releaseCaldera should
   have made. I have a copy here but not installed as yet.

 AFAIK it is built on eD2.4 and it is supposedly the release that 3.0 +
 should have been but was not. In upgrades and also the ease of installation
 plus the availabilty of upgrade rpms etc.

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Re: Gramofile problems - can't record anything

2002-05-29 Thread Tim Wunder

I'm beginning to think it's a glibc problem...I'm not sure why, just a gut 
feeling at this point.
I've gotten several error references to /lib/libc.so.6 which is a symlink to 
libc-2.2.4.so
I don't know. Perhaps I'll back out the updated glibc rpm, return to the stock 
glibc, and see what happens...
Thanks, 
Tim

On Wednesday 29 May 2002 07:53 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
 Sorry, i don't see much of anything revealing here.

 Tim Wunder wrote:
  On Wednesday 29 May 2002 01:33 pm, Tim Wunder wrote:
 On 5/29/2002 11:51 AM, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote:
 
  snip
 
 Can you strace gramofile too?  Also, did you build these from source?
  That might fix the problem.
 
  snip
 
  www.thewunders.org/files/gramofile.err

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