Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item
On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 16:03:32 -0600 Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled intuitively: Matthew Carpenter wrote: If you don't want to read it, note that the OT and TID tags have not gone away and just delete the messages. On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 07:33:03 -0600 Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enough of the religious shit already, if I wanted to hear bout that stuff,I'd go to church. === I had really hoped to avoid involving myself in this thread, but I must say that, to this observer, the whole thing to, fro, and in between is out of hand. Can't everyone just quietly (as in without trying to add the last word), just let this thread die. I hate to sound like some sort of list HITLER, but I really would like to see the end of this thread here on this list. Just my US$0.02, Mike -- He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot. -Groucho Marx ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Upcoming OpenSSH vulnerability (fwd)
On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Net Llama! wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Philip J. Koenig wrote: There has been a heated discussion on this over in the FreeBSD security list, suffice to say that Theo's obnoxious attitude doesn't help matters. Nonetheless this is important info: The way i see it, if you write a heaping hunk of code that thousands, if not millions of people use on a daily basis, you can be as obnoxious as you like. One of the perks of godhood I suppose. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: snagit clone?
Just ran across this, might work for you. http://www.qarbon.com/products/viewletbuilder/ On Tuesday 25 June 2002 08:40 pm, Alan Jackson wrote: Is anyone aware of something on Linux (Solaris, really) that does what snagit does? Specifically, a fellow at work wants to document some software by making an mpeg movie, with voiceover, of the steps. With snagit he can capture the screen pretty much continuously, and record his voice at the same time. Quite nice really. I couldn't find anything even remotely close for *nix. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: pppd question
On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 09:06:35 -0400, Brian Witowski wrote: What script is used to pass modem strings to the modem (such as s0=0) when using pppd? Thanks, Brian If you are using wvdial, it goes in /etc/wvdial.conf like this: Init1 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 S11=55 +FCLASS=0 Actually in mine, that line begins with Init2 and was put there by magic. It is an alternate init for the modem. If you are using something like pon, then it would go in the chatscript which is in /etc/chatscripts/ 'provider' is the generic one. It should be whichever one is mentioned in /etc/ppp/peers/provider or whatever one you are using. I think it would go something like this, but I don't have anything in that file for the modem except the speed. I got this idea from http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html. He shows a little different chatscript, but comparing it to the one in /etc/chatscripts/provider, I think it would look like this. You would start it with the AT and then add what you need to it including S0=0: ATF\\Q3\\V1D3M1#CC1 -- Anita GnuPG key: 1024D/9EDAC910 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: Upcoming OpenSSH vulnerability (fwd)
So, you are using M$ as an example of proper behavior for coders? Either in society or in code? From: Net Llama! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Don't forget about M$. On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Michael Hipp wrote: I don't believe there is anywhere written in the social contract that producing a certain quantity of code entitles you to utterly ignore the common ideas of civility and inter-personal relationships. But, unfortunately, a great deal of the OSS developers seem to see it the way you stated. On Tuesday 25 June 2002 03:38 pm, Net Llama! wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Philip J. Koenig wrote: There has been a heated discussion on this over in the FreeBSD security list, suffice to say that Theo's obnoxious attitude doesn't help matters. Nonetheless this is important info: The way i see it, if you write a heaping hunk of code that thousands, if not millions of people use on a daily basis, you can be as obnoxious as you like. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Capturing a ^C to break out of a script?
Umm I was wondering if there is anyway of breaking out of a script by capturing the CTRL+C combination and completey exiting the script I am running the following and if the login fails it still trys to go through the entire 'for in do' Thanks #!/bin/sh # login to cvs me=$0 export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs cvs login for i in `echo *` do echo Checking Out $i cvs -z3 co -PA $i done cvs logout echo $0 Done -- James McDonald MCSE (Windows 2000/NT4), CCNA, CCA, MCP + I Registered Linux User #209832 http://jamesmcd.dns2go.com (home) Red Hat Linux release 7.2 (Enigma) 8:44pm up 11:41, 7 users, load average: 0.28, 0.10, 0.03 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Capturing a ^C to break out of a script?
I am not sure just what you want to do. The ctrl-c key should be able to kill your program for you. If not, try ctrl-\. Usually, I use the or || construct if I need to test for the success of a command before I continue. eg: cvs login || exit 1 (I am not sure what cvs login is so this command may not work) You could also set up a trap, eg: trap CommandToProcessCntrl-c INT Joel On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 08:48:03PM +1000, James McDonald wrote: Umm I was wondering if there is anyway of breaking out of a script by capturing the CTRL+C combination and completey exiting the script I am running the following and if the login fails it still trys to go through the entire 'for in do' Thanks #!/bin/sh # login to cvs me=$0 export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs cvs login for i in `echo *` do echo Checking Out $i cvs -z3 co -PA $i done cvs logout echo $0 Done -- James McDonald MCSE (Windows 2000/NT4), CCNA, CCA, MCP + I Registered Linux User #209832 http://jamesmcd.dns2go.com (home) Red Hat Linux release 7.2 (Enigma) 8:44pm up 11:41, 7 users, load average: 0.28, 0.10, 0.03 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Capturing a ^C to break out of a script?
I define a procedure that will be called. In this case, it prints a message
and then calls my Exit procedure for a tidy exit:
#
# Catch program termination.
#
interrupt ()
{
cat *EOF*
ERROR: The backup was interrupted before it was complete. This means
that you must re-do the backup or risk loosing the files.
*EOF*
Exit ${FAILURE}
}
trap interrupt 2 3
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 20:48:03 +1000
James McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Umm I was wondering if there is anyway of breaking out of a script by
capturing the CTRL+C combination and completey exiting the script I am
running the following and if the login fails it still trys to go through
the entire 'for in do'
Thanks
#!/bin/sh
# login to cvs
me=$0
export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs
cvs login
for i in `echo *`
do
echo Checking Out $i
cvs -z3 co -PA $i
done
cvs logout
echo $0 Done
--
James McDonald
MCSE (Windows 2000/NT4), CCNA, CCA, MCP + I
Registered Linux User #209832
http://jamesmcd.dns2go.com (home)
Red Hat Linux release 7.2 (Enigma)
8:44pm up 11:41, 7 users, load average: 0.28, 0.10, 0.03
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Re: spam-assassin sxs
thx, mr. Llama.. I expected some comments... I will clean up the article very soon..it's kind of rough.. -- Linux 2.4.18 up 35 days, 23:00, 0 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 Join us in news://news.hkpcug.org and http://www.linux-sxs.org ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Long single line file
Yes. Try man fmt and man par. On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 12:57:52PM +0100, Rob Simpson wrote: No - are these unix commands? Joel Hammer wrote: Have you tried to run it through a command like fmt or par? Joel On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 08:48:42AM +0100, Rob Simpson wrote: I have a long ( 1Gb) file consisting of fixed width lines without a newline character between them - is there any way I can split it up without attempting to read the whole line in? Thanks, Rob -- Rob Simpson European Professional Services Manager Quadstone Ltd. Mill House Barry Avenue Windsor Berkshire SL4 1QX +44 1753 834901 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: spam-assassin sxs
`tis ok. publish early often On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, m.w.chang wrote: thx, mr. Llama.. I expected some comments... I will clean up the article very soon..it's kind of rough.. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Upcoming OpenSSH vulnerability (fwd)
Philip J. Koenig schrieb: There has been a heated discussion on this over in the FreeBSD security list, suffice to say that Theo's obnoxious attitude doesn't help matters. Nonetheless this is important info: Why is that obnoxious at all? We've been trying to warn vendors about 3.3 and the need for privsep, but they really have not heeded our call for assistance. They have basically ignored us. Some, like Alan Cox, even went further stating that privsep was not being worked on because Nobody provided any info which proves the problem, and many people dont trust you theo and suggested I might be feeding everyone a trojan (I think I'll publish that letter -- it is just so funny). HP's representative was downright rude, but that is OK because Compaq is retiring him. Except for Solar Designer, I think none of them has helped the OpenSSH portable developers make privsep work better on their systems. Apparently Solar Designer is the only person who understands the need for this stuff. So, if vendors would JUMP and get it working better, and send us patches IMMEDIATELY, we can perhaps make a 3.3.1p release on Friday which supports these systems better. So send patches by Thursday night please. Then on Tuesday or Wednesday the complete bug report with patches (and exploits soon after I am sure) will hit BUGTRAQ. I (have been prof. programmer in the 80s already) can estimate the way programmers feel these days. -- *º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨¨*¤=Oliver@home= *º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨*¤ I http://www.bmw-roadster.de/Friends/Olli/olli.html I I http://www.bmw-roadster.de/Friends/friends.html I I http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VGAP-93 I I http://home.t-online.de/home/spacecraft.portal I Telek0ma iBBMS - soon back online +49.4503.TRSi1/TRSi2 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
re: virus scanning for linux email downloader
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael: I use MIMEDefang to process email on the Linux StepByStep site as well as my other sites. You can get it from www.roaringpenguin.org/mimedefang . It then calls SpamAssassin, which calls Vipuls Razor (v1 !!) and then calls File::Scan to check for viruses. You could also throw Anomy::HTML in their to check inbound HTML email as well. All are open source projects and I have had NO issues with them. You will need the latest Sendmail and you need to have it compiled with libmilter turned on (see the SxS). After that, it's fairly easy to install the Perl modules. I would install Razor, then SpamAssassin, then File::Scan and finally MIMEDefang (everything will autodetect each other this way). Let me know if you have questions. - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9GfI0SrrWWknCnMIRAof1AKCdTTdbJL9G/BQBV0x4/bafyjzPEgCfZdyC scrhDeTmj2OjmN/pQpFIOlU= =MZ53 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Upcoming OpenSSH vulnerability (fwd)
On 25 Jun 2002, at 16:38, Net Llama! boldly uttered: On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Philip J. Koenig wrote: There has been a heated discussion on this over in the FreeBSD security list, suffice to say that Theo's obnoxious attitude doesn't help matters. Nonetheless this is important info: The way i see it, if you write a heaping hunk of code that thousands, if not millions of people use on a daily basis, you can be as obnoxious as you like. I have an extremely different view of life: as far as I'm concerned, there is no excuse, no time, nowhere for *anyone* to be an obnoxious S.O.B., and I don't care if you're the president, the pope, or god. (assuming you believe in the latter) DeRaadt sat on the FreeBSD security list, and blustered, and cussed, and berated people for asking questions, basically anyone who didn't accept his dictum as gospel. After all of these predictions of doom-and-gloom coming from him, and after listening to him pull a Microsoft - not divulging any details on this vulnerability (contrary to the guiding philosophy in the majority of the open-source security community), spreading FUD, scaring people into thinking they were going to get rooted through this thing unless they upgraded to this new and relatively un-tested functionality (privilege separation)... it is now coming out (no thanks to DeRaadt) that the version that most people are currently running in FreeBSD is NOT VULNERABLE. Just like some people wondered when his blustering first started, it appears possible that some of this may just have been a good excuse to force everyone to upgrade. Most FreeBSD users are a little different than typical Linux users - they don't like to be on the bleeding edge just to be on the bleeding edge - they want to make sure changes are well-tested and relatively troublefree. Such FUD from vendors does not play well in that community. -- Philip J. Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers Communications for the New Millenium ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item
On Tuesday 25 June 2002 14:43, you wrote: Nicely put. I can't believe the number of people willing to hang their hat on chucking the Bible becuase of all sorts of inconsistencies without being able to list any. Inconsistencies 1. Book of Genesis: Two creation myths fused together to form an inconsistent creation story. In the first fthe animals are created and then man is created both male and female on the sixth day. Second story of Genesis God plants a garden after the creation and plunks Adam into the garden on the second day then he creates the animals and brings them to Adam to name. On the sixth day he creates Eve from a rib of Adam, although he had already created Mrs Adam on the sixth day of the first creation story man both male and female. Must assume that the first Mrs. Adam and kids were left to shift for themselves after God snatched up Adam. 2. The Tree of knowledge. God told Adam and Eve that they could eat of any the trees save one: the Tree of Knowledge. For on the day that you do you will surely die. They ate they didn't die. Book Thumpers try to get around this little inconsistency by claimimg that man had been created immortal and died after he was driven from the garden. This is negated by Genesis and the Tree of Life. Contrary to the thumpers claims man was not driven from the garden for disobeying God but because God feared that Adam and Eve would also eat from the Tree of Life and become immortal with the knowledge of good and evil and be like Gods themselves. The Snake ( and it was a serpent not the Devil) hadn't lied he just didn't tell the whole truth. The claim of the thumpers of Original Sin and death are negated by this part of Genesis. 3. This fear of Man's capabilities is also shown in the story of the Tower of Babel. Man was not afflicted by God with different languages for presumption. He was afflicted because of capability; for God said, I see now that man can do whatever he sets his mind to do. He claimed that man could do this because he had a common language. So he fixed that by insuring that everyone spoke his own tongue. Therefore we must lay every war that different languages had a part in on God's doorstep. A second inconsistency is the so-called infallibility of God. Somehow he had failed to notice the capability of man. Tune in next week kiddies when we go into the Real Story of Exodus Lee ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item
Would you mind stating scripture and verse so it can be checked? Thanks. Harry G On Wed June 26 2002 2:40 pm, Lee wrote: On Tuesday 25 June 2002 14:43, you wrote: Nicely put. I can't believe the number of people willing to hang their hat on chucking the Bible becuase of all sorts of inconsistencies without being able to list any. Inconsistencies 1. Book of Genesis: Two creation myths fused together to form an inconsistent creation story. In the first fthe animals are created and then man is created both male and female on the sixth day. Second story of Genesis God plants a garden after the creation and plunks Adam into the garden on the second day then he creates the animals and brings them to Adam to name. On the sixth day he creates Eve from a rib of Adam, although he had already created Mrs Adam on the sixth day of the first creation story man both male and female. Must assume that the first Mrs. Adam and kids were left to shift for themselves after God snatched up Adam. 2. The Tree of knowledge. God told Adam and Eve that they could eat of any the trees save one: the Tree of Knowledge. For on the day that you do you will surely die. They ate they didn't die. Book Thumpers try to get around this little inconsistency by claimimg that man had been created immortal and died after he was driven from the garden. This is negated by Genesis and the Tree of Life. Contrary to the thumpers claims man was not driven from the garden for disobeying God but because God feared that Adam and Eve would also eat from the Tree of Life and become immortal with the knowledge of good and evil and be like Gods themselves. The Snake ( and it was a serpent not the Devil) hadn't lied he just didn't tell the whole truth. The claim of the thumpers of Original Sin and death are negated by this part of Genesis. 3. This fear of Man's capabilities is also shown in the story of the Tower of Babel. Man was not afflicted by God with different languages for presumption. He was afflicted because of capability; for God said, I see now that man can do whatever he sets his mind to do. He claimed that man could do this because he had a common language. So he fixed that by insuring that everyone spoke his own tongue. Therefore we must lay every war that different languages had a part in on God's doorstep. A second inconsistency is the so-called infallibility of God. Somehow he had failed to notice the capability of man. Tune in next week kiddies when we go into the Real Story of Exodus Lee ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item
**MAJOR SNIPPAGE** Tune in next week kiddies when we go into the Real Story of Exodus and what does any of this have to do with linux.. lets end this thread. Jim -- quattro... the unfair advantage... ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
re: virus scanning for linux email downloader
Michael: I use MIMEDefang to process email on the Linux StepByStep site as well as my other sites. You can get it from www.roaringpenguin.org/mimedefang . It then calls SpamAssassin, which calls Vipuls Razor (v1 !!) and then calls File::Scan to check for viruses. You could also throw Anomy::HTML in their to check inbound HTML email as well. All are open source projects and I have had NO issues with them. You will need the latest Sendmail and you need to have it compiled with libmilter turned on (see the SxS). After that, it's fairly easy to install the Perl modules. I would install Razor, then SpamAssassin, then File::Scan and finally MIMEDefang (everything will autodetect each other this way). Let me know if you have questions. - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org I originally tried to use MIMEdefang but never could get it to work. I was intrigued with the author's view that he doesn't supply binaries...if you don't know how to compile code then you shouldn't be trying to use his app. I can see his point but it still seems to be rather stupid to me. In any case, MIMEdefang just wouldn't compile on my system. I continued to get string errors no matter what I did. MIMEdefang's author and I exchanged printouts but he couldn't figger out what was happening either. I then checked out mailscanner. It doesn't require any config changes to the stock sendmail install and comes as a rpm package (as well as tar). I installed it in minutes and it has worked ever since. mailscanner uses spamassassin if you have it installed. It also supports several virus engines (ie. McAfee, Sophos, F-Prot, etc). Julian Field who wrote the code couldn't be more responsive to requests for features. I highly recommend mailscanner. Gerry -- The lyfe so short, the craft so long to learne Chaucer ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Enough already! (was: Noteworthy News Item)
Lee wrote: snip Tune in next week kiddies when we go into the Real Story of Exodus Lee And I'll be changing the station. This thread was called dead long ago. This is a LINUX list. For the last time, take the religious diatribe OFF LIST! -- Andrew Mathews --- andy.nmcourts.com Wednesday Jun 26 2002 13:40:00 MDT --- But since I knew now that I could hope for nothing of greater value than frivolous pleasures, what point was there in denying myself of them? -- M. Proust ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item
On Tuesday 25 June 2002 15:12, you wrote: On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 13:18:10 -0400 Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Later, we had John Calvin, who preached never mind what Christ said about the rich not getting into paradise. The real truth is that God already knows who will be saved and who will not. Therefore it is only logical to believe that God pours his blessings on those predestined few and the mark of God's favor was riches. A real double banger. No thought required and God's blessings on riches swindled from the undestined. Now here's a slant I'm not quite sure I've heard before... I know that the church screwed up the Irish when the Potato-famine hit and they were told that it was God's will for them to die... but I'm fairly certain John Calvin wasn't ever quoted as saying that. If he was, I'd be interested in seeing it, since I'm quite sure (IIRC) that he said quite the opposite... You're confusing John Knox with John Calven . Interesting opinion... I agree that there is a lot of work ethic issues in the world, though I'm not sure they are tied to protestants more than other folk. Creationism is a belief, as is Evolotion, The Big Bang, and any other myth about how and why we came to be. Truth is (if you do your homework beyond those lying high-school textbooks which show the evolutionary path from a museum, failing to include the wall-caption which reads Many of these skelletons are artists' creations and are not supported by the fossil record.) that there isn't much science supporting the Scientific explanation of the world. I'd like to allow the inclusion of Carbon Dating to the discussion, but in reality, we only know what Carbon-14 has done in the last what, couple decades? To say nothing of our complete lack of historical knowledge prior to 6000 years ago (too bad Adam and Eve didn't write down how Carbon-14 broke down back then... At least 6000 years is better than 15 or 20). You will also find several books which disect the non-christian Scientific methods of coming up with outright lies which support whatever the popular evolutionary theory-of-the-month was. These accounts are really quite fascinating. One of them details how a non-scientist Satanist (I'm not bashing him, this was the fact) was lofted into a highly respected research position... and happened to be the leader of the research which proved that homosexuality is inborn... The really sick part was that his work was later debunked, but nobody wanted to hear it so the media didn't make a big deal about it. Now you're playing on my ballfield. I happen to be a biologist with a six year college degree. A little beyond high school textbook stage. One of the reasons that high school text books do such a lousey job is because of watering down of evolutionary theory to be least objectionable to the Book Thumpers. Evolution is not a weekly changing fad. The central core as explained by Charles Darwin and Henery Wallace, in 1854, is still intact. New discoveries simply add onto it and fill out more of the puzzle of existence. Evolution, unlike Creationism is a proper scientific theory in accordance with the Philosphy of Science and formulated by the Scientific Method. The Philiosphy of Science holds that the natural sciences are the observation and explanation of the process of the natural world i.e. the world as preceived by the five senses. The study of first causes (creators) is more properly in the fields of study of philiosphy and theology. So Creation fails the Philiosophy of Science test as it relys on supernatural (not of the natural world) creator. It also fails the test of the scientific method. A scientific theory to be accepted must follow the following process. First observation of an occuance i.e. different species that seem to be related. Two: formulation of a possible explanation based on observation - a hypothesis. The next step is where Creationis fails - testing of the hypothesis. Followed by evaluation of the hypothesis in regard to test data. Then either disgard the hypothesis or further testing. Formulation as a theory and publishing for peer review. If accepted by peer review, acceptance as a scientific theory with the understanding that it is only an incomplete explanation main difference between theory and Natural Law) which can be amended or discarded if later evidence shows it to be false. Creationism starts with I. The Book and everything in it is the revealed word of God. It is true and need not comply with the same rules that science applies to other theories. It must be accepted because I belive it. Therefore biology is a lie. Astronomy that claims that the universe is 15 billion years old is a lie. Physics that claims that universe is older than 6,000 yrs old is a lie. Geology that is based on a two to five billion year old Earth is a lie. All science is a lie only the Book of Thump is true. Shut down the schools and send
Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item
Harry G wrote: Would you mind stating scripture and verse so it can be checked? Thanks. Harry G snip How about doing it privately and not on this list? Then everyone can continue what we came here for without sucking up bandwidth, patience, and disk space. -- Andrew Mathews --- andy.nmcourts.com Wednesday Jun 26 2002 13:50:00 MDT --- Don't let go of what you've got hold of, until you have hold of something else. -- First Rule of Wing Walking ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item
On Wednesday 26 June 2002 14:50, you wrote: **MAJOR SNIPPAGE** Tune in next week kiddies when we go into the Real Story of Exodus and what does any of this have to do with linux.. lets end this thread. Jim God punished Egypt for using M$. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item
On Wednesday 26 June 2002 14:50, you wrote: Would you mind stating scripture and verse so it can be checked? Thanks. Harry G Genesis 1:27, 2:27, 2:15, 2:17 2:19, 2:22, 3:22 11:6 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Upcoming OpenSSH vulnerability (fwd)
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Philip J. Koenig wrote: On 25 Jun 2002, at 16:38, Net Llama! boldly uttered: On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Philip J. Koenig wrote: There has been a heated discussion on this over in the FreeBSD security list, suffice to say that Theo's obnoxious attitude doesn't help matters. Nonetheless this is important info: The way i see it, if you write a heaping hunk of code that thousands, if not millions of people use on a daily basis, you can be as obnoxious as you like. I have an extremely different view of life: as far as I'm concerned, there is no excuse, no time, nowhere for *anyone* to be an obnoxious S.O.B., and I don't care if you're the president, the pope, or god. (assuming you believe in the latter) DeRaadt sat on the FreeBSD security list, and blustered, and cussed, and berated people for asking questions, basically anyone who didn't accept his dictum as gospel. After all of these predictions of doom-and-gloom coming from him, and after listening to him pull a Microsoft - not divulging any details on this vulnerability (contrary to the guiding philosophy in the majority of the open-source security community), spreading FUD, scaring people into thinking they were going to get rooted through this thing unless they upgraded to this new and relatively un-tested functionality (privilege separation)... it is now coming out (no thanks to DeRaadt) that the version that most people are currently running in FreeBSD is NOT VULNERABLE. Just like some people wondered when his blustering first started, it appears possible that some of this may just have been a good excuse to force everyone to upgrade. Most FreeBSD users are a little different than typical Linux users - they don't like to be on the bleeding edge just to be on the bleeding edge - they want to make sure changes are well-tested and relatively troublefree. Such FUD from vendors does not play well in that community. I agree with 100%, except that you're neglecting one simple fact. openssh is not a vendor. The developers of openssh aren't getting paid a single penny for what they do. Thus, they aren't bound to the same vendor/customer relationship that we expect from places such as Sun, Oracle or even M$. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Harry G wrote: Would you mind stating scripture and verse so it can be checked? I mind, so please don't. For the 4th time, this is a *LINUX* list. Take the religious discussion elsewhere. I mean really, there's even a list available to go to. Take it there, and stop wasting eveyrone's bandwidth with this stuff that has absolutely no connection to linux. I'm not bashing religion. I'm bashing the fact that its the primary topic of discussion here, even after Doug politely ordered everyone to halt it. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
re: virus scanning for linux email downloader
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Gerry Doris wrote: I originally tried to use MIMEdefang but never could get it to work. I was intrigued with the author's view that he doesn't supply binaries...if you don't know how to compile code then you shouldn't be trying to use his app. I can see his point but it still seems to be rather stupid to me. Actually, i think its downright brilliant. I think anyone running a server (and that's the only way you're going to need to use mimedefang) should be able to compile some software. Its not brain surgery folks. If the only way you know how to run a server is via the InstallShield(tm), then you have no business being a sysadmin. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Enough already! (was: Noteworthy News Item)
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Andrew Mathews wrote: Lee wrote: snip Tune in next week kiddies when we go into the Real Story of Exodus Lee And I'll be changing the station. This thread was called dead long ago. This is a LINUX list. For the last time, take the religious diatribe OFF LIST! I'll heartily 2nd that. Whether or not you folks are aware of it, you're driving people off this list with this thread. I'm honestly starting to consider dropping this list. I shouldn't have to setup a procmail recipe to filter out 1 ridiculously offtopic thread. This isn't a troll that's pissing me off, its several people who should know better. Take the discussion elsewhere, and debate until your maker calls you home. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
strange errors
I am seeing this error daily in the log. couldn't connect to anything I've done recently (except the preemptive patch) Jun 27 04:30:30 server kernel: Warning: null TTY for (88:00) in tty_fasync Also this strange named lookup. I didn't install anything related to openldap... query: _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.myhostname IN SRV -- Linux 2.4.18 up 36 days, 7:00, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Join us in news://news.hkpcug.org and http://www.linux-sxs.org ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Harry G wrote: Would you mind stating scripture and verse so it can be checked? Thanks. Harry G For once, I'm finding an OT thread quite interesting. I like to see this continued and not die. But, this is not the right forum. Can the principals in this discussion take this thread to the 'General' list? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: strange errors
So you haven't changed kernels, or any hardware lately? What appears immediately before after those entries? Actually, i wouldnt' be too surprised if this was pre-emp patch related. Can you reboot into a kernel without the patch to see if the behavior continues? On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, m.w.chang wrote: I am seeing this error daily in the log. couldn't connect to anything I've done recently (except the preemptive patch) Jun 27 04:30:30 server kernel: Warning: null TTY for (88:00) in tty_fasync Also this strange named lookup. I didn't install anything related to openldap... query: _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.myhostname IN SRV -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: email server question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 16:52:47 -0400, Brian Witowski wrote: My COL 3.1 server acts as a router/gateway and mail server running smtp. My workstations are set up with my server as the POP3 and smtp server. Fetchmail goes out and retrieves mail from POP3 accounts periodically and dumps it in the corresponding linux account. This makes getting email appear to be faster and works great. My problem is I am using a dial-up account and pppd on the server. When I try to do a send/receive on a workstation, it fails if the server is not connected. My question: Is there a way to cache the outgoing mail on the server instead of the workstation? And have the server send it when there is a connection? Yes, you can. If you have a stock sendmail (and sendmail-cf installed), you have to add this to /usr/share/sendmail/cf/cf/generic-openlinux.mc: define(`confDELIVERY_MODE', `deferred') and possibly FEATURE(accept_unresolvable_domains) Then exec: mta-switch newconfig This will rebuild /etc/mail/sendmail.cf. Restart sendmail and you're ready. It's a good idea to exec sendmail -q upon connection (it will process the mail queue). PS: backup /etc/mail/sendmail.cf before doing mta-switch newconfig (in case something fails). Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPRotjRRcJRaVKt4XEQIF2wCgiJr8FETI+mtWFW+zrlhgeubhIfwAoLH0 CiAX9Z+2tOOC1VP83JY9VBKc =0dbQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Keith Morse wrote: On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Harry G wrote: Would you mind stating scripture and verse so it can be checked? Thanks. Harry G For once, I'm finding an OT thread quite interesting. I like to see this continued and not die. But, this is not the right forum. Can the principals in this discussion take this thread to the 'General' list? Indeed, for those who missed it, you can subscribe to the general list here: http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/general and post to it here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: strange errors
On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 06:39, m.w.chang wrote: I am seeing this error daily in the log. couldn't connect to anything I've done recently (except the preemptive patch) Jun 27 04:30:30 server kernel: Warning: null TTY for (88:00) in tty_fasync Also this strange named lookup. I didn't install anything related to openldap... query: _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.myhostname IN SRV Umm that looks like a service record from a Windows 2000 domain they tend to have service such as ldap etc placed in ddns servers with an _ before them. Check your dns server -- James McDonald MCSE (Windows 2000/NT4), CCNA, CCA, MCP + I Registered Linux User #209832 http://jamesmcd.dns2go.com (home) Red Hat Linux release 7.2 (Enigma) 9:35am up 1 day, 32 min, 8 users, load average: 1.08, 1.20, 1.23 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
cyber-terror
chilling if true http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50765-2002Jun26.html ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: virus scanning for linux email downloader
Gerry Doris wrote: On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Net Llama! wrote: On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Gerry Doris wrote: I originally tried to use MIMEdefang but never could get it to work. I was intrigued with the author's view that he doesn't supply binaries...if you don't know how to compile code then you shouldn't be trying to use his app. I can see his point but it still seems to be rather stupid to me. Actually, i think its downright brilliant. I think anyone running a server (and that's the only way you're going to need to use mimedefang) should be able to compile some software. Its not brain surgery folks. If the only way you know how to run a server is via the InstallShield(tm), then you have no business being a sysadmin. Never said anything about InstallShield...you did. I also didn't say that I didn't know how to compile. And i never accused you of either. Touched a raw nerve, did i? -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:30pm up 68 days, 23:18, 2 users, load average: 0.10, 0.28, 0.43 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: virus scanning for linux email downloader
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 16:49:21 -0400 (EDT) begin Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Gerry Doris wrote: I originally tried to use MIMEdefang but never could get it to work. I was intrigued with the author's view that he doesn't supply binaries...if you don't know how to compile code then you shouldn't be trying to use his app. I can see his point but it still seems to be rather stupid to me. Actually, i think its downright brilliant. I think anyone running a server (and that's the only way you're going to need to use mimedefang) should be able to compile some software. Its not brain surgery folks. If the only way you know how to run a server is via the InstallShield(tm), then you have no business being a sysadmin. Actually, I find about 90% of sysadmins shouldn't be sysadmins. While this is principally the InstallShield crowd, it's not for want of being able to compile code, it's for simple understanding of protocols and RFCs. I personally think only properly licensed folks should be permitted to put a system (but particularly a server) on the Internet. Too late now, and look what a mess we have. Perhaps, just perhaps, after folks actually start dying because things connected through/to the Internet don't work as they should because of incompetence and a lack of understanding, something will happen (but I doubt it). Nothing like trying to put the genie back in the bottle. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item
HITLER AND TO THINK I LEFT THE CALDERA LIST FOR THIS! From: Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AND NUMEROUS OTHERS) On Tuesday 25 June 2002 14:43, you wrote: Nicely put. I can't believe the number of people willing to hang their hat on chucking the Bible...1. Book of Genesis: Two creation myths fused together to form an inconsistent Inconsistencies creation story. In the first... ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: cyber-terror
Ted Ozolins wrote: On June 26, 2002 03:52 pm, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: chilling if true http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50765-2002Jun26.html Gee, this is begining to sound more like Wolf, Wolf, and more Wolf. How many Terrorist atack warnings have been issued by the CIA in the last few months? You already have Big Brother watching every move you make, now they're going to use this crap to gain access to your computers. Whats Bush's next announcement, perhaps outlawing encryption so as to better enable them to track terrorists? -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Interesting and if true will mean we get caught with our pants down again. Over six months ago I called FBI in Tallahassee and suggested that they might want to keep watch over the internet. Too much business flows over it. Bin Laden with over 100 million in the till would have very little problem designing about 1000 viri designed to destroy rather than just annoy. By dropping them on the net in a timed released the net could be tied up almost indefinitely and a great deal of economic chaos could result. The FBI just yawned. But, the net is still a sitting duck. Lee ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item
Jack Berger wrote: HITLER AND TO THINK I LEFT THE CALDERA LIST FOR THIS! You seem to be the only one carrying on the thread. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
gnome2 ramblings
Well the urge to tinker has struck again, so I put up gnome2 rc2 last night to see what I've been missing (I can hear the thundering response from the kde crowd and the xfce crowd now - not much!) Unlike DEP (see Linux and Main article) I never was that impressed by kde, but xfce is still my main thing. Nevertheless, growing numbers of linux fans are going gnome. All I can say at this point is this - it works. Ah the joys of gentoo. All I had to do was comment out a few lines in the package mask (marks packages that are still under development), fire up an emerge, turn off the terminal, and go to bed. This morning gnome2 was ready to roll. Other than an expanded working set and maybe 1% extra cpu, not much of an effect. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: strange errors
that's what I thought, too. My win2k pro is set to work in workgroup only. And the linxu server is running the latest-and-greatest bind 9.2.1. COuld it be something new in 9.2.1? I did reinstall the win2kpro lately to fix some weirdness... query: _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.myhostname IN SRV Umm that looks like a service record from a Windows 2000 domain they tend to have service such as ldap etc placed in ddns servers with an _ before them. Check your dns server -- may the force, the farce and linux be with you. See you in news://news.hkpcug.org and http://www.linux-sxs.org ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: strange errors
After the pre-emptive patch, I only updated my bind to 9.2.1 which was not related to the kernel. my rp-pppoe was being up and down daily as usually as well as sendmail, named, and ipcheck (dyndns). fetchmail running as well as procmail, spam-assassin, proftpd, ... If I reboot now, it will reset my uptime... hmm maybe later sicne the server is still working fine. A rough search in http://www.google.com/linux did show answers pointing at the kernel 2.4.0 Actually, i wouldnt' be too surprised if this was pre-emp patch related. Can you reboot into a kernel without the patch to see if the behavior continues? -- may the force, the farce and linux be with you. See you in news://news.hkpcug.org and http://www.linux-sxs.org ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: cyber-terror
I don't think those utilities (electricity, gas, ...) companies would have any connection to let internet control their money-making tools directly and remotely. Those faillities are being manned 24-hour-a-aday. turmoil in accounting and booking has never been new. :) Ronnie Gauthier wrote: chilling if true http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50765-2002Jun26.html -- may the force, the farce and linux be with you. See you in news://news.hkpcug.org and http://www.linux-sxs.org ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: gnome2 ramblings
begin Collins's quote: | Ah the joys of gentoo. All I had to do was comment out a few lines | in the package mask (marks packages that are still under | development), fire up an emerge, turn off the terminal, and go to | bed. This morning gnome2 was ready to roll. honestly. someone could say too bad elvis is dead, and within a cycle or two you would would inform us, well, i'm not dead, but i run gentoo.g -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
messagewall
http://messagewall.org/install.html stand right in front of sendmail. all-in-one solution: anti-spam, anti-virus, authenication, certification, ... . no need to fight with procmail and sendmail auth (if I did mis-understand her doc). any attempted using it? -- may the force, the farce and linux be with you. See you in news://news.hkpcug.org and http://www.linux-sxs.org ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: email server question
Federico, Thanks! Your solution seemed to work. Except it will time out when the destination is a domain that is not cached on the mail server. It seems to want to resolve the domain before it will accept the outgoing email. Any ideas on that? Thanks again, Brian My problem is I am using a dial-up account and pppd on the server. When I try to do a send/receive on a workstation, it fails if the server is not connected. My question: Is there a way to cache the outgoing mail on the server instead of the workstation? And have the server send it when there is a connection? Yes, you can. If you have a stock sendmail (and sendmail-cf installed), you have to add this to /usr/share/sendmail/cf/cf/generic-openlinux.mc: define(`confDELIVERY_MODE', `deferred') and possibly FEATURE(accept_unresolvable_domains) Then exec: mta-switch newconfig This will rebuild /etc/mail/sendmail.cf. Restart sendmail and you're ready. It's a good idea to exec sendmail -q upon connection (it will process the mail queue). PS: backup /etc/mail/sendmail.cf before doing mta-switch newconfig (in case something fails). Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPRotjRRcJRaVKt4XEQIF2wCgiJr8FETI+mtWFW+zrlhgeubhIfwAoLH0 CiAX9Z+2tOOC1VP83JY9VBKc =0dbQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: cyber-terror
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:08:31 -0700 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On June 26, 2002 03:52 pm, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: chilling if true http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50765-2002Jun26.html Gee, this is begining to sound more like Wolf, Wolf, and more Wolf. How many Terrorist atack warnings have been issued by the CIA in the last few months? You already have Big Brother watching every move you make, now they're going to use this crap to gain access to your computers. Whats Bush's next announcement, perhaps outlawing encryption so as to better enable them to track terrorists? -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) TED Exactly what ever he has to. Our safty is paramount here. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Cannot login to kde
Damd well sent this to the wrong address last night = Sorry but I am tired out after two solid days work for two pro photographers with hd problems. I had a problem with not beng able all of a sudden to compile programs and especially kernels due to the compile stuffing up in make, with some problem with make. I did ask but no one had the answer. So I had a backup of /usr that I reinstalled after deleteing the one I was using, I now get to the kde login but it tells me that it cannot find kde2 and also kde3. This looks like a problem with a script file. Kde2 and 3 are in /opt, so where would I look for the problem, also what do I look for. I am brain dead at the moment, so will wait till tomorrow now to do anything. any assist appreciated. Its obviously something simple. Keith Antoine (Skippy) in windows. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: gnome2 ramblings
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 20:52:59 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: begin Collins's quote: | Ah the joys of gentoo. All I had to do was comment out a few | lines in the package mask (marks packages that are still under | development), fire up an emerge, turn off the terminal, and go to | bed. This morning gnome2 was ready to roll. honestly. someone could say too bad elvis is dead, and within a cycle or two you would would inform us, well, i'm not dead, but i run gentoo.g Right on - I'm incorrigible. As soon as I get around to it, I'll be getting the official gentoo T-shirt (not kidding in the least). Using gentoo is so easy that it's scary. There are a host of developers who have major package installations down to a science, and there are a host of users who check out the early versions and suffer all the blood letting. Since none of these guys are paid, I plug their good work whenever I can, and I complain bitterly to them when (seldom) they screw up. Except for the occaional bit of tinkering (Slackware, ELX, for examples), I'll never stray too far from gentoo. Never say never, but I doubt that I'll want a UnitedLinux offering. My interest in gnome may wane fairly rapidly, too, since I haven't found anything I need to do that it does better than xfce. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla temporarily running gnome2 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
/boot partition and modules/kernels
I remember reading about someone keeing a /boot partition which holds their kernels as well as /lib/modules/2.x.x-x directories, which are then linked to in the original locations... I have attempted this and have been running face first into a wall when attempting to load modules... I'd be interested in hearing some pointers on this one. I believe I read it in a post by David Bandel. TIA, Matt ps. And sorry for the OT-TID thread. I didn't mean for it to get out of hand like that. -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: email server question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Then you should add the FEATURE(accept_unresolvable_domains) line and run mta-switch newconfig. I'm not using this anymore (I have DSL now), but I used this config for a long time when I had dialup access. On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 21:57:14 -0400, Brian Witowski wrote: Federico, Thanks! Your solution seemed to work. Except it will time out when the destination is a domain that is not cached on the mail server. It seems to want to resolve the domain before it will accept the outgoing email. Any ideas on that? Thanks again, Brian My problem is I am using a dial-up account and pppd on the server. When I try to do a send/receive on a workstation, it fails if the server is not connected. My question: Is there a way to cache the outgoing mail on the server instead of the workstation? And have the server send it when there is a connection? Yes, you can. If you have a stock sendmail (and sendmail-cf installed), you have to add this to /usr/share/sendmail/cf/cf/generic-openlinux.mc: define(`confDELIVERY_MODE', `deferred') and possibly FEATURE(accept_unresolvable_domains) Then exec: mta-switch newconfig This will rebuild /etc/mail/sendmail.cf. Restart sendmail and you're ready. It's a good idea to exec sendmail -q upon connection (it will process the mail queue). PS: backup /etc/mail/sendmail.cf before doing mta-switch newconfig (in case something fails). Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPRotjRRcJRaVKt4XEQIF2wCgiJr8FETI+mtWFW+zrlhgeubhIfwAoLH0 CiAX9Z+2tOOC1VP83JY9VBKc =0dbQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPRqHphRcJRaVKt4XEQJhJwCgj1Ms+2bP+Ba6C7/bTsvZ3X8pc64AoNhY +sqTGnZBt/DwK8bN/bWwH7JT =4/x+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
rolling your own distro - next installment
hello joseph cheek. based on your step-by-step - rolling your own distro, can you help me how i can put my lizard - modified - into my distro - iso. thanks. begin:vcard n:;Abd Shukur Bin Sharif x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Abd Shukur Bin Sharif end:vcard
Re: virus scanning for linux email downloader
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Douglas J Hunley wrote: no changes to sendmail for mimedefang either. well, a tweak when you build your sendmail.cf, but that is true of all milter-based apps - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Hmmm, something has changed since I tried MIMEdefang about a year ago. I had to compile sendmail from scratch. That was a pain. Gerry -- The lyfe so short, the craft so long to learne Chaucer ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: cyber-terror
not right. As I have been finding out all modern switching technology can, and most is accessable online. If not for real use just for setup and testing. Many dams around me have very few employees actually onsite and all instrumentation and actual control can and sometimes is done remotely from miles away. Some utilities on the east coast are experimenting with running internet along the power lines, and reading meters also via net access along access lines. On Wednesday 26 June 2002 07:50 pm, m.w.chang wrote: I don't think those utilities (electricity, gas, ...) companies would have any connection to let internet control their money-making tools directly and remotely. Those faillities are being manned 24-hour-a-aday. turmoil in accounting and booking has never been new. :) Ronnie Gauthier wrote: chilling if true http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50765-2002Jun26.html ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
