Re: Water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink..

2003-07-25 Thread Philip J. Koenig
On 24 Jul 2003 at 19:59, Andrew Mathews boldly uttered: 

 Philip J. Koenig wrote:
 snip
 
 
 ~ If anyone can point me to a source for
 | RedHat 8.0 ISOs, or have another suggestion, I would greatly
 | appreciate it.
 
 http://www.linux-works.org/iso/
 
 I try to keep iso's for most current releases (though Mandrake and
 Gentoo haven't been updated recently). It's on an OC-3 so you shouldn't
 have any bandwidth problems.


Excellent, I'll try it!



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Re: Water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink..

2003-07-25 Thread Philip J. Koenig
On 24 Jul 2003 at 19:59, Andrew Mathews boldly uttered: 

 Philip J. Koenig wrote:
 snip
 
 
~ If anyone can point me to a source for
 | RedHat 8.0 ISOs, or have another suggestion, I would greatly
 | appreciate it.
 
 http://www.linux-works.org/iso/
 
 I try to keep iso's for most current releases (though Mandrake and
 Gentoo haven't been updated recently). It's on an OC-3 so you shouldn't
 have any bandwidth problems.

 
Disk one done and burned.. thanks!

Now a question -- since there are 5 disks in that set and I don't 
particularly feel like downloading all of them, does anyone have a 
good idea what each contains?  In particular disk 3?

The docs on disk 1 don't go much into specifics, all they say is that 
disk 3 is full of binary and source RPMs, but it doesn't say *which* 
ones. (Disk 1 has a bunch also)

For example, I didn't see Mutt on disk 1 (unless it's in the base 
system), but it's not a critical package right now.  Most of the main 
stuff seems to be on disk 1 based on a quick perusal.

Thanks again.



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Re: Mandrake or Slackware

2003-07-25 Thread Dallam Wych
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 01:04:06PM -0700, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote:
 If you had to choose, with only a couple hours to decide, between Slackware
 and Mandrake for a laptop install, which would you choose?  I don't know
 either of them well enough to make a logical decision, but I'm in the
 position of needing to make that decision.

Slackware

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Re: Water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink..

2003-07-25 Thread Philip J. Koenig
On 24 Jul 2003 at 19:02, Net Llama! boldly uttered: 

 On 07/24/03 18:31, Philip J. Koenig wrote:
  They also have this proprietary driver for RedHat 8.0, which of 
  course I can't find on Redhat's ftp server and neither does 
  LinuxISO.org have them.  If anyone can point me to a source for 
  RedHat 8.0 ISOs, or have another suggestion, I would greatly 
  appreciate it.  I find it highly ironic that it looks like it would 
  be cheaper to use Solaris than Linux.. sigh.
 
 I don't understand.  You can't find RH8 ISOs or you can't find the 
 proprietary RH8 driver for Compaq?


The RH ISOs, which I now have a source for thanks to Andrew.

The first distro I tried was Suse 8.2, which seemed to install pretty 
nicely*, but I couldn't make the RH rpms from Compaq work on. (I 
didn't really investigate the compatibility issues that much before 
charging into it)

I'm guessing I'll like Suse better overall but unfortunately Compaq 
ties my hands.  I already had to give up on running FreeBSD because 
Compaq doesn't provide their stupid driver for that OS at all.


*(did the ftp install, which is free, but takes forever since it 
downloads from Suse's overloaded or throttled server in Germany, but 
I just let it run overnight)


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map file (newbie)

2003-07-25 Thread Tony Alfrey
Hi!

I'm trying to clean up my understanding of the kernel compiling process.
(for reference, still running Caldera and LILO)
I'm trying to understand the purpose of the map file.  I have a file 
System.map in my kernel source directory that I think is 
created/updated when I compile my kernel.  I assume that it is supposed 
to go in /boot.  And O'Reilly Running Linux says that lilo should 
include a line
map = /boot/map
but I don't have this line.
So what gives?
a)  What is creating the file ~/kernel-build-directory/System.map?
b)  Is it called when I boot if LILO is not told where it is?
c)  Do I need it?

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Qt

2003-07-25 Thread Dinesh Babuji
Dear all,

I was tryin to get into irc-linux users,but the link is broken.
I am facing a trouble in Qt.I have made some forms/widget with the help of 
GUI tools available in Qt..eg buttons,radio buttons,text box  etc..
The Question 1 is: How can I run a shell command on the terminal on the push 
of a Button I have in  the form/widget?
Question 2: How do I get the output of shell command which appears on the 
terminal to display in thge text box in the widget?
Please answer.Urgent need.

Thanx a lot.

Dinesh

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Re: Water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink..

2003-07-25 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/25/03 04:38, Philip J. Koenig wrote:

On 24 Jul 2003 at 19:02, Net Llama! boldly uttered: 


On 07/24/03 18:31, Philip J. Koenig wrote:

They also have this proprietary driver for RedHat 8.0, which of 
course I can't find on Redhat's ftp server and neither does 
LinuxISO.org have them.  If anyone can point me to a source for 
RedHat 8.0 ISOs, or have another suggestion, I would greatly 
appreciate it.  I find it highly ironic that it looks like it would 
be cheaper to use Solaris than Linux.. sigh.
I don't understand.  You can't find RH8 ISOs or you can't find the 
proprietary RH8 driver for Compaq?


The RH ISOs, which I now have a source for thanks to Andrew.
And what was wrong with any one of the 100+ official Redhat mirrors listed 
here?
http://www.redhat.com/download/mirror.html

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Re: Water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink..

2003-07-25 Thread Shawn L Johnston

- Original Message -
From: Philip J. Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:31 PM
Subject: Water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink..


 They also have this proprietary driver for RedHat 8.0, which of
 course I can't find on Redhat's ftp server and neither does
 LinuxISO.org have them.  If anyone can point me to a source for
 RedHat 8.0 ISOs, or have another suggestion, I would greatly
 appreciate it.  I find it highly ironic that it looks like it would
 be cheaper to use Solaris than Linux.. sigh.

You should be able to download a developer edition of UnitedLinux
for free from the UnitedLinux site. You just need to register for
their developer program, which is free.

If you poke around on Oracle's http://otn.oracle.com site you should
find a link to Red Hat where you can purchase their Enterprise server
product for $60 or thereabouts, for development purposes.


Cheers,

Shawn

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Re: Water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink..

2003-07-25 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/25/03 07:37, Shawn L Johnston wrote:
If you poke around on Oracle's http://otn.oracle.com site you should
find a link to Red Hat where you can purchase their Enterprise server
product for $60 or thereabouts, for development purposes.
Could you give me a hint where?  I easily found something like that for 
UnitedLinux, but nothing for RHAS.

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compile kernel in KDE?

2003-07-25 Thread Tony Alfrey
Hi!

Another kernel compile question.
It seems that one may compile a kernel while still running KDE or some 
other desktop as long as one gets out of the desktop and back to a 
terminal before doing

make modules_install
and moving the new kernel image to /boot

since the old kernel is still loaded and running until rebooting.
Any remarks as to this being a Bad Thing?

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Re: Water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink..

2003-07-25 Thread Shawn L Johnston

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: Water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink..


 On 07/25/03 07:37, Shawn L Johnston wrote:
  If you poke around on Oracle's http://otn.oracle.com site you
should
  find a link to Red Hat where you can purchase their Enterprise
server
  product for $60 or thereabouts, for development purposes.

 Could you give me a hint where?  I easily found something like that
for
 UnitedLinux, but nothing for RHAS.


There is a link on

http://www.oracle.com/partnerships/hw/redhat/index.html?content.html

too get the Developer Edition but Red Hat's web site doesn't seem
too offer this any more it just goes to the Workstation product...

Shawn

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Re: compile kernel in KDE?

2003-07-25 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/25/03 07:55, Tony Alfrey wrote:

Hi!

Another kernel compile question.
It seems that one may compile a kernel while still running KDE or some 
other desktop as long as one gets out of the desktop and back to a 
terminal before doing

make modules_install
and moving the new kernel image to /boot
since the old kernel is still loaded and running until rebooting.
Any remarks as to this being a Bad Thing?
You don't have to get out of anything to build  install a kernel.  Nothing 
that you're doing in building or installing the kernel is relevant until 
you reboot.

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Slightly OTHappy Sys Admin Appreciation Day

2003-07-25 Thread Douglas J Hunley
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June 25 (today) is the annual Sys Admin Appreciation Day. I'd just like to 
take a moment to tip my hat to my fellow admins on this list. I'll be 
throwing down a cold beverage in your honor later tonite!
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Re: stupid knoppix/debian question

2003-07-25 Thread C M Reinehr
I had to refresh my memory by taking a quick look at the sources.list file 
from Knoppix 3.2 and it looks as if it's pretty complete. The mirrors 
included are the official Debian mirrors, but there are, probably, over 
a hundred other mirrors worldwide. Check out: http://www.debian.org/mirror/

The security mirrors are, perhaps, the most important mirrors to include 
in your sources.list. Then, the standard debian mirrors. After that, it's 
a matter of including mirrors for applications for which you have a 
specific interest, which are not included in the standard mirrors, i.e.,
Java: deb ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/debian testing main non-free

Hope this helps. I'm just learning my way around apt  dpkg, myself.

Cheers!

cmr

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URIs do 
 I have to have to stay up-to-date on all the latest bug fixes and the 
 latest kewl new app-of-the-day ?
 thanks
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Re: Slightly OTHappy Sys Admin Appreciation Day

2003-07-25 Thread Gerry Doris
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 June 25 (today) is the annual Sys Admin Appreciation Day. I'd just like to
 take a moment to tip my hat to my fellow admins on this list. I'll be
 throwing down a cold beverage in your honor later tonite!
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Hmmm, today is actually July 25th.  How old are you anyway g??

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Re: Slightly OTHappy Sys Admin Appreciation Day

2003-07-25 Thread Tom Wilson
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 11:33, Tony Alfrey wrote:
 On Friday 25 July 2003 08:11 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
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  June 25 (today) is the annual Sys Admin Appreciation Day. I'd just
  like to take a moment to tip my hat to my fellow admins on this list.
  I'll be throwing down a cold beverage in your honor later tonite!
 
 Considering that this is July (not June), perhaps you've already thrown 
 down a few cold beverages too many??
 But we appreciate you anyway.

I believe that is a typo on Doug's part.  Sys Admin Day is the day after
my birthday which was yesterday.  

Two celebrations in a row!

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Re: Slightly OTHappy Sys Admin Appreciation Day

2003-07-25 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Friday 25 July 2003 08:11 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
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 June 25 (today) is the annual Sys Admin Appreciation Day. I'd just
 like to take a moment to tip my hat to my fellow admins on this list.
 I'll be throwing down a cold beverage in your honor later tonite!

Considering that this is July (not June), perhaps you've already thrown 
down a few cold beverages too many??
But we appreciate you anyway.


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Re: my networking problem is over

2003-07-25 Thread David A. Bandel
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 18:46:19 -0600
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 06:56:37 -0500
 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:37:25 -0400
  Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I do not know what i did differently, obviously something but I am
   now
   
   connected with both XP and linux, plus the secondary machine is
   now also online. So my major problem is now solved. What can I do
   next to keep everyone busy, I know i'll do a 2.6 compile.
   
   All jokes aside many thanks to all those who put in their .05
   cents worth.
  
  It's not the compilation that will get you, but the little things
  that you will forget to include or include as modules.  In that
  respect, 2.6 is a nightmare.  It's getting to the point that not
  just anyone can compile their own kernel and expect it to work.  The
  config script needs simplification.
  
 
 At least they got rid of the make mrproper and make deps stuff.  IMO,
 that's a very positive step.  If you screw something up, change the
 config and remake, it's very quick.

Actually, mrproper is still there and has its utility.  Try `make help`
to see how things have changed.  I'm writing a document on all this to
post on my website to help folks along.

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Re: stupid knoppix/debian question

2003-07-25 Thread Douglas J Hunley
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C M Reinehr shocked and awed us all by speaking:
 I had to refresh my memory by taking a quick look at the sources.list file
 from Knoppix 3.2 and it looks as if it's pretty complete. The mirrors
 included are the official Debian mirrors, but there are, probably, over
 a hundred other mirrors worldwide. Check out: http://www.debian.org/mirror/

 The security mirrors are, perhaps, the most important mirrors to include
 in your sources.list. Then, the standard debian mirrors. After that, it's
 a matter of including mirrors for applications for which you have a
 specific interest, which are not included in the standard mirrors, i.e.,
 Java: deb ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/debian testing main non-free

 Hope this helps. I'm just learning my way around apt  dpkg, myself.

it do indeed. thanks
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Re: map file (newbie)

2003-07-25 Thread Douglas J Hunley
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Tony Alfrey shocked and awed us all by speaking:
 Hi!

 I'm trying to clean up my understanding of the kernel compiling process.
 (for reference, still running Caldera and LILO)
 I'm trying to understand the purpose of the map file.  I have a file
 System.map in my kernel source directory that I think is
 created/updated when I compile my kernel.  I assume that it is supposed
 to go in /boot.  And O'Reilly Running Linux says that lilo should
 include a line
 map = /boot/map
 but I don't have this line.
 So what gives?
 a)  What is creating the file ~/kernel-build-directory/System.map?

compiling the kernel creates it

 b)  Is it called when I boot if LILO is not told where it is?

has nothing to do with lilo. different maps...

 c)  Do I need it?

not strictly. IIRC, the map file is used to convert a (s)trace or kernel dump 
from fairly meaningless machine-specific hex values to kernel symbols and 
such. make the dump more usefull


 Thanks!

de nada
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Re: Water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink..

2003-07-25 Thread Keith Morse
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Philip J. Koenig wrote:

[snippage]
 Now a question -- since there are 5 disks in that set and I don't 
 particularly feel like downloading all of them, does anyone have a 
 good idea what each contains?  In particular disk 3?
 
 The docs on disk 1 don't go much into specifics, all they say is that 
 disk 3 is full of binary and source RPMs, but it doesn't say *which* 
 ones. (Disk 1 has a bunch also)
 
 For example, I didn't see Mutt on disk 1 (unless it's in the base 
 system), but it's not a critical package right now.  Most of the main 
 stuff seems to be on disk 1 based on a quick perusal.
 


Disks 1, 2, and 3 are worth getting, IIRC.  It sucks not to have that 
third disk when the installer is about 98% done.  Been there, done that, 
burnt the 3rd iso.

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Re: stupid knoppix/debian question

2003-07-25 Thread David A. Bandel
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:26:41 -0500
C M Reinehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I had to refresh my memory by taking a quick look at the sources.list
 file from Knoppix 3.2 and it looks as if it's pretty complete. The
 mirrors included are the official Debian mirrors, but there are,
 probably, over a hundred other mirrors worldwide. Check out:
 http://www.debian.org/mirror/
 
 The security mirrors are, perhaps, the most important mirrors to
 include in your sources.list. Then, the standard debian mirrors. After
 that, it's a matter of including mirrors for applications for which
 you have a specific interest, which are not included in the standard
 mirrors, i.e.,
 Java: deb ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/debian testing main non-free
 
 Hope this helps. I'm just learning my way around apt  dpkg, myself.
 

Take a look at http://www.apt-get.org for unofficial package sources.

Ciao,

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Re: Water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink..

2003-07-25 Thread Andrew Mathews
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| Now a question -- since there are 5 disks in that set and I don't
| particularly feel like downloading all of them, does anyone have a
| good idea what each contains?  In particular disk 3?
snip
You'll only need the first 3 to load the os, 4  5 consist of sources and
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Re: Water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink..

2003-07-25 Thread Philip J. Koenig
On 25 Jul 2003 at 6:51, Net Llama! boldly uttered: 

 On 07/25/03 04:38, Philip J. Koenig wrote:
 
  On 24 Jul 2003 at 19:02, Net Llama! boldly uttered: 
  
  
 On 07/24/03 18:31, Philip J. Koenig wrote:
 
 They also have this proprietary driver for RedHat 8.0, which of 
 course I can't find on Redhat's ftp server and neither does 
 LinuxISO.org have them.  If anyone can point me to a source for 
 RedHat 8.0 ISOs, or have another suggestion, I would greatly 
 appreciate it.  I find it highly ironic that it looks like it would 
 be cheaper to use Solaris than Linux.. sigh.
 
 I don't understand.  You can't find RH8 ISOs or you can't find the 
 proprietary RH8 driver for Compaq?
  
  
  
  The RH ISOs, which I now have a source for thanks to Andrew.
 
 And what was wrong with any one of the 100+ official Redhat mirrors listed 
 here?
 http://www.redhat.com/download/mirror.html


Version 8.0 (the only somewhat recent non-enterprise version Compaq 
supports) was not available on Redhat's ftp site.

I assumed that as per usual, mirrors are supposed to be just 
that - copies of a parent site. I thus assumed that they would not 
have material that Redhat's site doesn't have.  

It would be understandable (and common) for Redhat to strongly 
discourage mirror sites making available for download older releases 
which contained software with since-fixed security vulnerabilities, 
as just one example.  Thus I didn't bother looking at any of the 
mirror sites.




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Re: Water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink..

2003-07-25 Thread Philip J. Koenig
On 25 Jul 2003 at 10:03, Keith Morse boldly uttered: 

 On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Philip J. Koenig wrote:
 
 [snippage]
  Now a question -- since there are 5 disks in that set and I don't 
  particularly feel like downloading all of them, does anyone have a 
  good idea what each contains?  In particular disk 3?
  
  The docs on disk 1 don't go much into specifics, all they say is that 
  disk 3 is full of binary and source RPMs, but it doesn't say *which* 
  ones. (Disk 1 has a bunch also)
  
  For example, I didn't see Mutt on disk 1 (unless it's in the base 
  system), but it's not a critical package right now.  Most of the main 
  stuff seems to be on disk 1 based on a quick perusal.
  
 
 
 Disks 1, 2, and 3 are worth getting, IIRC.  It sucks not to have that 
 third disk when the installer is about 98% done.  Been there, done that, 
 burnt the 3rd iso.


Ack, OK... thanks for the tip.  If it might call for the disk without 
warning before exiting the installer, that's all I need to know...

So what is important about disk 2?  The readme file says it's just a 
copy of part of disk 1??


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Serial ATA on Linux

2003-07-25 Thread Michael Hipp
A while back I posted a question about serial ATA support in Linux. 
Someone on another list pointed me toward this provider of S-ATA RAID 
and it claims Linux support (RH and SuSE): 
http://www.3ware.com/products/serial_ata.asp

Michael

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Re: Serial ATA on Linux

2003-07-25 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/25/03 13:52, Michael Hipp wrote:

A while back I posted a question about serial ATA support in Linux. 
Someone on another list pointed me toward this provider of S-ATA RAID 
and it claims Linux support (RH and SuSE): 
http://www.3ware.com/products/serial_ata.asp
As far as I know, 3ware is the only vendor providing any degree of SATA 
support under linux.  From the (granted) little that i've read, the 
performance is quite bad.

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Re: Water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink..

2003-07-25 Thread Andrew Mathews
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| So what is important about disk 2?  The readme file says it's just a
| copy of part of disk 1??
|
|
I honestly don't recall, but I don't believe there's any duplication from one to
another. That would confuse the installer because the package listing is in the
TRANS.TBL file. I would guess that they're arranged based upon the dependencies,
and what has to be installed first and what can't be installed until they're
satisfied. IIRC, the minimal install doesn't require anything from disc 3, but
the workstation, server, development, and everything installs do. I don't have
any disks with me to look at, but you can tell by listing the /redhat/RPMS
directory to a file for each and doing a diff on the files.
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Re: my networking problem is over

2003-07-25 Thread Keith Antoine
On Friday 25 July 2003 12:07 pm, David A. Bandel wrote:

 Actually, mrproper is still there and has its utility.  Try `make help`
 to see how things have changed.  I'm writing a document on all this to
 post on my website to help folks along.

 Ciao,

 David A. Bandel

Will this appear on the company site, www.pananix.com ?

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Re: Serial ATA on Linux

2003-07-25 Thread Keith Antoine
On Friday 25 July 2003 04:52 pm, Michael Hipp wrote:
 A while back I posted a question about serial ATA support in Linux.
 Someone on another list pointed me toward this provider of S-ATA RAID
 and it claims Linux support (RH and SuSE):
 http://www.3ware.com/products/serial_ata.asp

 Michael

I have an Asus A7N8X delux Motherboard with a Seagate SATA 120gig hd
for playing around with vhs to DVD and recording programs to. The write time 
is approx twice the speed of the std ide drives. Mandrake sees the sata raid 
drive and installs drivers.

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Re: Serial ATA on Linux

2003-07-25 Thread Keith Antoine
On Friday 25 July 2003 05:11 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
 On 07/25/03 13:52, Michael Hipp wrote:
  A while back I posted a question about serial ATA support in Linux.
  Someone on another list pointed me toward this provider of S-ATA RAID
  and it claims Linux support (RH and SuSE):
  http://www.3ware.com/products/serial_ata.asp

 As far as I know, 3ware is the only vendor providing any degree of SATA
 support under linux.  From the (granted) little that i've read, the
 performance is quite bad.

As in newspapers take most of what ytou read with a pinch of salt. I have such 
a board and drives that is written in half the time of a std drive, and it is 
seen by Mandrake.

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Re: compile kernel in KDE?

2003-07-25 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Tony Alfrey:
 Hi!
 
 Another kernel compile question.
 It seems that one may compile a kernel while still running KDE or some 
 other desktop as long as one gets out of the desktop and back to a 
 terminal before doing
 
 make modules_install
 and moving the new kernel image to /boot
 
 since the old kernel is still loaded and running until rebooting.
 Any remarks as to this being a Bad Thing?

Of course you can do this. The loaded modules are still loaded,
so copying over their disk images is not a problem. I did this
once a few years ago - built a new kernel and modules, installed
both, and then left the original kernel running another 40-odd days.
Being drunk at the time, I forgot about building a new kernel.
Imagine my surprise when my box booted to a new kernel of which I 
had no recollection. ;-)

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Windows Crashes

2003-07-25 Thread Kurt Wall
From the New York Times:

Mr. Gates acknowledged today that the company's error reporting service 
indicated that 5 percent of all Windows-based computers now crash more 
than twice each day.

(http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/technology/25SOFT.html)

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Re: Windows Crashes

2003-07-25 Thread Federico Voges
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:45:54 -0400, Kurt Wall wrote:

From the New York Times:

Mr. Gates acknowledged today that the company's error reporting service 
indicated that 5 percent of all Windows-based computers now crash more 
than twice each day.

(http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/technology/25SOFT.html)


And that they don't have data about the other 95% :-D




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Re: Windows Crashes

2003-07-25 Thread Leon A. Goldstein


Federico Voges wrote:

>>From the New York Times:
>
>"Mr. Gates acknowledged today that the company's error reporting service
>indicated that 5 percent of all Windows-based computers now crash more
>than twice each day."
>
>(http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/technology/25SOFT.html)
>

And that they don't have data about the other 95% :-D

I know a sure way to keep Windows from crashing - don't multitask.
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Re: Qt

2003-07-25 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Dinesh Babuji:
 Dear all,
 
 I was tryin to get into irc-linux users,but the link is broken.

You could just connect directly, I suppose.

 I am facing a trouble in Qt.I have made some forms/widget with the help of 
 GUI tools available in Qt..eg buttons,radio buttons,text box  etc..
 The Question 1 is: How can I run a shell command on the terminal on the 
 push of a Button I have in  the form/widget?

This would be a Qt question, or perhaps a KDE question. See 
http://developer.kde.org/.

 Question 2: How do I get the output of shell command which appears on the 
 terminal to display in thge text box in the widget?

See http://developer.kde.org/.

 Please answer.Urgent need.
 
 Thanx a lot.

HTH,

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Re: Windows Crashes

2003-07-25 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/25/03 16:42, Leon A. Goldstein wrote:

Federico Voges wrote:


From the New York Times:
Mr. Gates acknowledged today that the company's error reporting service
indicated that 5 percent of all Windows-based computers now crash more
than twice each day.
(http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/technology/25SOFT.html)

And that they don't have data about the other 95% :-D

I know a sure way to keep Windows from crashing - don't multitask.
Don't use it, is a better way.

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plugins Mozilla-1.5a

2003-07-25 Thread Net Llama!
I've noticed that the more recent versions of Mozilla (1.5a, and one build 
of 1.4) are getting built with gcc-3.2, and there is this stern warning 
about some plugins not working right (like Flash for example).  Anyone have 
the lowdown on what works, and doesn't work?

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Re: Qt

2003-07-25 Thread Tim Wunder
On 7/25/2003 8:24 AM, someone claiming to be Dinesh Babuji wrote:

Dear all,

I was tryin to get into irc-linux users,but the link is broken.
I am facing a trouble in Qt.I have made some forms/widget with the help 
of GUI tools available in Qt..eg buttons,radio buttons,text box  etc..
The Question 1 is: How can I run a shell command on the terminal on the 
push of a Button I have in  the form/widget?
Question 2: How do I get the output of shell command which appears on 
the terminal to display in thge text box in the widget?
Please answer.Urgent need.

You could try connecting your favorite irc client to irc.freenode.net 
and joining #kde-devel, probly some qt guru's hangin' out there...

HTH,
Tim
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Re: plugins Mozilla-1.5a

2003-07-25 Thread Tim Wunder
On 7/25/2003 8:48 PM, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote:

I've noticed that the more recent versions of Mozilla (1.5a, and one 
build of 1.4) are getting built with gcc-3.2, and there is this stern 
warning about some plugins not working right (like Flash for example).  
Anyone have the lowdown on what works, and doesn't work?

Not off-hand, but you might wanna try asking on the 
netscape.mozilla.user.unix newsgroup, on secnews.netscape.com...

Regards,
Tim
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FW: [suse-announce-usa] SuSE Linux Desktop

2003-07-25 Thread Mike McKinlay
Folks:
 Thought this might be of interest to others here in the group.
   Mike
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Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 10:35 AM
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Subject: [suse-announce-usa] SuSE Linux Desktop



Dear SuSE Linux customers and friends,

SuSE Linux announced the availability of the first enterprise-class
Linux desktop solution, SuSE Linux Desktop -- a user-friendly, flexible,
SuSE maintained desktop built for large IT infrastructures, software
development and high performance computing environments.

SuSE Linux Desktop including 5 workstations and maintenance for one year
is USD 598 (plus shipping and sales tax if applicable), additional
workstation licenses are available.

We are now shipping the product directly from our webshop:
http://store.suse.com

Starting today, as a special offer till 08/31/03, there is a USD 50
discount, in oder to get this discount please use the following link for
your order:
http://shop.suse.com/sld

If you have any questions about the product, please send them to:
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The product is also available at SuSE Linux business partners, please go
to http://www.suse.com/us/company/suse/retailers/index.html for a complete
list.

The final element of SuSE's multi-stage desktop product strategy, SuSE
Linux Desktop is also available with five-year maintenance - a first for
Linux desktops.

SuSE Linux Desktop is unique in the industry, combining the
cost-efficiency, ease of deployment and innovation of Linux with a
five-year maintenance program, said Richard Seibt, CEO of SuSE Linux. We
believe this is the product that will bring Linux to enterprise desktops
across the whole world.

SuSE also announced the first hardware certifications for SuSE Linux
Desktop. In June, IBM ThinkPads A31 and T40 and IBM NetVista desktop
computers will be awarded the label Certified for SuSE Linux Desktop,
ensuring smooth interaction between hardware and software, even under high
workloads. SuSE Linux Desktop has already achieved Linux Standards Base
(LSB) Certification, verifying adherence to the community and industry
developed standards for Linux distributions and Linux-based applications.

SuSE Linux Desktop and SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 8 - common codebase
for workstations and servers

By deploying SuSE Linux Desktop in combination with SuSE Linux Enterprise
Server 8, Powered by UnitedLinux, businesses worldwide will have the first
complete Linux enterprise platform, certified for the solutions of the
world's leading ISVs and IHVs, with server and client perfectly tuned.
Based on a uniform codebase, the combination of SuSE Linux Desktop and
SuSE Linux Enterprise Server simplifies system administration within
complex IT networks -- reducing administration, training and support costs
-- dramatically lowering total cost of ownership.

Enhanced regularly over a period of five years with new features, fixes,
and other improvements, SuSE Linux Desktop and SuSE Linux Enterprise
Server 8 offer maximum system availability, long-term planning security
and return-on-investment.

SuSE Linux Desktop on HP desktops and workstations marks the next stage
in the evolution of the Linux operating system, said Martin Fink, vice
president of Linux, HP. Users now get the price/performance advantage of
Linux on one flexible and efficient platform to run enterprise-level
applications on their desktops and one vendor - HP - to support them along
the way.

Codeweavers CrossOver Office 2.0 enables the seamless utilization of Word,
Excel and PowerPoint from MS Office 97/2000/XP as well as MS Outlook,
Visio 2000 and other Microsoft applications. IBM Lotus Notes can also be
utilized on the SuSE Linux Desktop.

Agfa Monotype fonts ensure true format printing and display of Microsoft
documents.

Further information can be found at http://www.suse.com/e-desktop/

Best Regards,

Holger Dyroff
General Manager Americas

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