Re: virus scanning for linux email downloader

2002-06-27 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 18:01:46 -0400 (EDT)
Gerry Doris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just don't consider typing ./configure, make, make install to be some
 kind of test of manhood.  I'll compile the files if necessary but I like
 the ease of use of rpm's.  I prefer to update, remove, and rebuild
 packages using rpm.  However, I understand perfectly well why rpm's aren't
 
 always provided.  

Or at least a .spec file, and then you could type: make rpm, or better yet,
a source rpm, so you could rmp --rebuild it.

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Re: virus scanning for linux email downloader

2002-06-27 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 18:59:00 -0500
David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nothing like trying to put the genie back in the bottle.

Maybe Palladium will help? (He said with a wink and a grin, and a bad
feeling in his stomach.) I could see it being sold for this in some areas by
some NW USA company or other. Not to say it would do this. That is another
story.

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Re: virus scanning for linux email downloader

2002-06-27 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

Anyone know if these work with exim?

I have a feeling I would have to give up my favorite MTA to get this capability. 
Surely that would not be the case. I will have to investigate.

On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 12:56:07 -0400
Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Michael:
   I use MIMEDefang to process email on the Linux StepByStep site as
   well as my 
 other sites. You can get it from www.roaringpenguin.org/mimedefang . It
 then calls SpamAssassin, which calls Vipuls Razor (v1 !!) and then calls 
 File::Scan to check for viruses. You could also throw Anomy::HTML in their
 to check inbound HTML email as well. All are open source projects and I
 have had NO issues with them. You will need the latest Sendmail and you
 need to have it compiled with libmilter turned on (see the SxS). After
 that, it's fairly easy to install the Perl modules. I would install Razor,
 then SpamAssassin, then File::Scan and finally MIMEDefang (everything will
 autodetect each other this way). Let me know if you have questions.
 - -- 
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 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org
   and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org
 
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Re: virus scanning for linux email downloader

2002-06-27 Thread Gerry Doris

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

 Anyone know if these work with exim?
 
 I have a feeling I would have to give up my favorite MTA to get this capability. 
Surely that would not be the case. I will have to investigate.
 
mailscanner works with exim.  

Gerry
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RE: virus scanning for linux email downloader

2002-06-27 Thread Brian Witowski

Perhaps not.  You're just a dick and you repulse people.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Net Llama!
 Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 7:36 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: virus scanning for linux email downloader


 Gerry Doris wrote:
  On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Net Llama! wrote:
 
 
 On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Gerry Doris wrote:
 
 I originally tried to use MIMEdefang but never could get it to work.  I
 was intrigued with the author's view that he doesn't supply
 binaries...if
 you don't know how to compile code then you shouldn't be
 trying to use his
 app.  I can see his point but it still seems to be rather stupid to me.
 
 Actually, i think its downright brilliant.  I think anyone running a
 server (and that's the only way you're going to need to use mimedefang)
 should be able to compile some software.  Its not brain surgery
 folks.  If
 the only way you know how to run a server is via the InstallShield(tm),
 then you have no business being a sysadmin.
 
 
  Never said anything about InstallShield...you did.  I also
 didn't say that
  I didn't know how to compile.

 And i never accused you of either.  Touched a raw nerve, did i?

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RE: virus scanning for linux email downloader

2002-06-27 Thread Net Llama!

Mr. Witowski,
I'm not at all sure what is impaled in your ass, but kindly remove it, and
then return to the playground.

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Brian Witowski wrote:
 Perhaps not.  You're just a dick and you repulse people.

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Net Llama!
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 7:36 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: virus scanning for linux email downloader
 
 
  Gerry Doris wrote:
   On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Net Llama! wrote:
  
  
  On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Gerry Doris wrote:
  
  I originally tried to use MIMEdefang but never could get it to work.  I
  was intrigued with the author's view that he doesn't supply
  binaries...if
  you don't know how to compile code then you shouldn't be
  trying to use his
  app.  I can see his point but it still seems to be rather stupid to me.
  
  Actually, i think its downright brilliant.  I think anyone running a
  server (and that's the only way you're going to need to use mimedefang)
  should be able to compile some software.  Its not brain surgery
  folks.  If
  the only way you know how to run a server is via the InstallShield(tm),
  then you have no business being a sysadmin.
  
  
   Never said anything about InstallShield...you did.  I also
  didn't say that
   I didn't know how to compile.
 
  And i never accused you of either.  Touched a raw nerve, did i?
 
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RE: virus scanning for linux email downloader

2002-06-27 Thread Gerry Doris


 Mr. Witowski,
 I'm not at all sure what is impaled in your ass, but kindly remove it,
 and then return to the playground.

 On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Brian Witowski wrote:
 Perhaps not.  You're just a dick and you repulse people.

   Never said anything about InstallShield...you did.  I also
   didn't say that I didn't know how to compile.
 
  And i never accused you of either.  Touched a raw nerve, did i?
 

Now that we've all had a good laugh perhaps we should go back on topic!

Gerry
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re: virus scanning for linux email downloader

2002-06-26 Thread Douglas J Hunley

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Michael:
I use MIMEDefang to process email on the Linux StepByStep site as well as my 
other sites. You can get it from www.roaringpenguin.org/mimedefang . It then 
calls SpamAssassin, which calls Vipuls Razor (v1 !!) and then calls 
File::Scan to check for viruses. You could also throw Anomy::HTML in their to 
check inbound HTML email as well. All are open source projects and I have had 
NO issues with them. You will need the latest Sendmail and you need to have 
it compiled with libmilter turned on (see the SxS). After that, it's fairly 
easy to install the Perl modules. I would install Razor, then SpamAssassin, 
then File::Scan and finally MIMEDefang (everything will autodetect each other 
this way). Let me know if you have questions.
- -- 
Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org
and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org

Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your
unique point of view.
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re: virus scanning for linux email downloader

2002-06-26 Thread Gerry Doris

 Michael:
   I use MIMEDefang to process email on the Linux StepByStep site as well
 as my
 other sites. You can get it from www.roaringpenguin.org/mimedefang . It
 then  calls SpamAssassin, which calls Vipuls Razor (v1 !!) and then
 calls  File::Scan to check for viruses. You could also throw Anomy::HTML
 in their to  check inbound HTML email as well. All are open source
 projects and I have had  NO issues with them. You will need the latest
 Sendmail and you need to have  it compiled with libmilter turned on (see
 the SxS). After that, it's fairly  easy to install the Perl modules. I
 would install Razor, then SpamAssassin,  then File::Scan and finally
 MIMEDefang (everything will autodetect each other  this way). Let me
 know if you have questions.
 - --
 Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org
   and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org

I originally tried to use MIMEdefang but never could get it to work.  I
was intrigued with the author's view that he doesn't supply binaries...if
you don't know how to compile code then you shouldn't be trying to use his
app.  I can see his point but it still seems to be rather stupid to me.

In any case, MIMEdefang just wouldn't compile on my system.  I continued
to get string errors no matter what I did.  MIMEdefang's author and I
exchanged printouts but he couldn't figger out what was happening either.

I then checked out mailscanner.  It doesn't require any config changes to
the stock sendmail install and comes as a rpm package (as well as tar).  I
installed it in minutes and it has worked ever since.

mailscanner uses spamassassin if you have it installed.  It also supports
several virus engines (ie. McAfee, Sophos, F-Prot, etc).  Julian Field who
wrote the code couldn't be more responsive to requests for features.  I
highly recommend mailscanner.

Gerry
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re: virus scanning for linux email downloader

2002-06-26 Thread Net Llama!

On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Gerry Doris wrote:
 I originally tried to use MIMEdefang but never could get it to work.  I
 was intrigued with the author's view that he doesn't supply binaries...if
 you don't know how to compile code then you shouldn't be trying to use his
 app.  I can see his point but it still seems to be rather stupid to me.

Actually, i think its downright brilliant.  I think anyone running a
server (and that's the only way you're going to need to use mimedefang)
should be able to compile some software.  Its not brain surgery folks.  If
the only way you know how to run a server is via the InstallShield(tm),
then you have no business being a sysadmin.

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Re: virus scanning for linux email downloader

2002-06-26 Thread Net Llama!

Gerry Doris wrote:
 On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Net Llama! wrote:
 
 
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Gerry Doris wrote:

I originally tried to use MIMEdefang but never could get it to work.  I
was intrigued with the author's view that he doesn't supply binaries...if
you don't know how to compile code then you shouldn't be trying to use his
app.  I can see his point but it still seems to be rather stupid to me.

Actually, i think its downright brilliant.  I think anyone running a
server (and that's the only way you're going to need to use mimedefang)
should be able to compile some software.  Its not brain surgery folks.  If
the only way you know how to run a server is via the InstallShield(tm),
then you have no business being a sysadmin.
 
 
 Never said anything about InstallShield...you did.  I also didn't say that 
 I didn't know how to compile.

And i never accused you of either.  Touched a raw nerve, did i?

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Re: virus scanning for linux email downloader

2002-06-26 Thread David A. Bandel

On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 16:49:21 -0400 (EDT)
begin  Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Gerry Doris wrote:
  I originally tried to use MIMEdefang but never could get it to work. 
  I was intrigued with the author's view that he doesn't supply
  binaries...if you don't know how to compile code then you shouldn't be
  trying to use his app.  I can see his point but it still seems to be
  rather stupid to me.
 
 Actually, i think its downright brilliant.  I think anyone running a
 server (and that's the only way you're going to need to use mimedefang)
 should be able to compile some software.  Its not brain surgery folks. 
 If the only way you know how to run a server is via the
 InstallShield(tm), then you have no business being a sysadmin.

Actually, I find about 90% of sysadmins shouldn't be sysadmins.  While
this is principally the InstallShield crowd, it's not for want of being
able to compile code, it's for simple understanding of protocols and RFCs.

I personally think only properly licensed folks should be permitted to put
a system (but particularly a server) on the Internet.  Too late now, and
look what a mess we have.  Perhaps, just perhaps, after folks actually
start dying because things connected through/to the Internet don't work as
they should because of incompetence and a lack of understanding, something
will happen (but I doubt it).

Nothing like trying to put the genie back in the bottle.

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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Re: virus scanning for linux email downloader

2002-06-26 Thread Gerry Doris

On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 no changes to sendmail for mimedefang either. well, a tweak when you build 
 your sendmail.cf, but that is true of all milter-based apps
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   and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org

Hmmm, something has changed since I tried MIMEdefang about a year ago.  I 
had to compile sendmail from scratch.  That was a pain.

Gerry
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RE: Virus Scanning for Linux Email Downloader

2002-06-24 Thread Schmeits, Roger

http://www.amavis.org/


Can I layer Spamassassin on top of that yet?

Just started on a similiar project.  From what I can tell -- yes.
Will also be running spamassassin.
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Re: Virus Scanning for Linux Email Downloader

2002-06-24 Thread Michael Hipp

Thanks for the pointers to mailscanner and amavis.org. I'll check them out.

Are these free av products as prompt  thorough about updating virus 
definitions as, say, Norton  McAfee? Seems like it would be a nearly 
impossible job without significant full-time staff.

Michael

On Sunday 23 June 2002 06:44 pm, Gerry Doris wrote:
 I suggest you use mailscanner.  It will work with serveral virus engines
 and also uses spamassassin if you have it installed.  It comes as an rpm
 package for redhat and works with sendmail or exim.

On Monday 24 June 2002 06:48 am, Schmeits, Roger wrote:
 http://www.amavis.org/


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Re: Virus Scanning for Linux Email Downloader

2002-06-24 Thread Gerry Doris


 Thanks for the pointers to mailscanner and amavis.org. I'll check them
 out.

 Are these free av products as prompt  thorough about updating virus
 definitions as, say, Norton  McAfee? Seems like it would be a nearly
 impossible job without significant full-time staff.

 Michael


Mailscanner is free but the virus engines aren't.  You will still need a
licensed version of McAfee, Sophos, F-Prot, or whatever virus package you
decide to use.  Unfotunately, most of these packages are targetted at
corporations and don't have an affordable price for small users.  I'm not
sure what your appication is?

F-Prot will allow their package to be used for free on linux systems for
personal/hobby use.  Business use requires a license.

Gerry
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Re: Virus Scanning for Linux Email Downloader

2002-06-24 Thread Richard R. Sivernell

On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:37:16 -0400 (EDT)
Gerry Doris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  Thanks for the pointers to mailscanner and amavis.org. I'll check them
  out.
 
  Are these free av products as prompt  thorough about updating virus
  definitions as, say, Norton  McAfee? Seems like it would be a nearly
  impossible job without significant full-time staff.
 
  Michael
 
 
 Mailscanner is free but the virus engines aren't.  You will still need a
 licensed version of McAfee, Sophos, F-Prot, or whatever virus package you
 decide to use.  Unfotunately, most of these packages are targetted at
 corporations and don't have an affordable price for small users.  I'm not
 sure what your appication is?
 
 F-Prot will allow their package to be used for free on linux systems for
 personal/hobby use.  Business use requires a license.
 
 Gerry
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Virus Scanning for Linux Email Downloader

2002-06-23 Thread Michael Hipp

I will be configuring a Linux box to download email from the ISP for a bunch 
of Outhouse clients. Can anyone recommend a virus scanner that would catch 
anyting coming into the Linux box before it can be downloaded to the 
clients?

Can I layer Spamassassin on top of that yet?

Thanks,
Michael

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Re: Virus Scanning for Linux Email Downloader

2002-06-23 Thread Gerry Doris

On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Michael Hipp wrote:

 I will be configuring a Linux box to download email from the ISP for a bunch 
 of Outhouse clients. Can anyone recommend a virus scanner that would catch 
 anyting coming into the Linux box before it can be downloaded to the 
 clients?
 
 Can I layer Spamassassin on top of that yet?
 
 Thanks,
 Michael

I suggest you use mailscanner.  It will work with serveral virus engines 
and also uses spamassassin if you have it installed.  It comes as an rpm 
package for redhat and works with sendmail or exim.

Gerry
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