Re: [TID] Re: new install init

2001-11-30 Thread Declan Moriarty

On Friday 30 November 2001 04:11, you wrote:
 Keith Antoine wrote:
  The real problem is that I _Cannot_ remember the commands to type in as i
  do not use an editor enough to remember. I can read however and click the
  mouse button, also joe/jove have a commands reminder key sequence that I
  can callup to jog the memory.
 
  I had a problem a while ago where I did not have access to any other
  editor than vi, it took me hours of frustration to get a line altered.

 Gee, if you don't edit much, you aren't coding or configuring.  Poor guy
 ;-) (Unless you code or configure Windows - then I'm really sorry for you.)

 Perhaps an editor you like will fit on a floppy.  Then you won't be so
 stuck.

Once linux popularity spreads beyond the programming fraternity, you're going 
to have to put up with guys who don't code, 'cos we're the majority now. I 
struggle through life with vi using :q!, :wq, insert and delete keys. It's 
like the old (defunct) Wordstar codes gone wrong.  I was fond of Tasword in 
Dos (62K: is that small enough?). It's a lot like vi (obscure keystrokes), 
with optional help on top of the screen worked as ^Fsomething, 
Alt-Fsomething, and Shift-Fsomething. With the help on, the top of the screen 
changes to the relevant page of help as you press Ctrl, Alt, or Shift. 
Simple, but workable.

I'm in electronics hardware, BTW, and quite friendly to guys who can't solder 
or design ;-). Just think if electronmics was left as the preserve of those 
who could; You'd probably have no pc ;-)  

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Re: CD burn error

2001-11-30 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage

Am Freitag, 30. November 2001 07:15 schrieben Sie:

 -
 -What version of cdrecord?


 *** cdrecord-1.10-4

Zoran,
you did't mention the version of xcdroast you are using. If it's 0.98alpha9 
(nine!), then cdrecord-1.10 should be ok.
But if you have xcdroast 0.98alpha8 (eight!), then you need cdrecord-1.9.
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Re: spam

2001-11-30 Thread burns


 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  Here's a good question.  I see a lot of postings about ways of
  eliminating spam.  How does one differentiate between spam and really
  interesting new mail that doesn't happen to come from your known and
  most frequent correspondents?

It's all spam if it is soliciting fo commercial purposes and you didn't ask 
for it.  Some just may be more palatable than others, depending on your 
taste. Frankly I have trouble dealing with any company that spams. I think it 
says a lot about their ethics and the quality of that business (lack thereof).

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Re: new install init

2001-11-30 Thread Stew Benedict


On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Bill Day wrote:

 Pico (comes with PINE console mailer), has its limitations, but if you ahve 
 problems rembering vi commands, and arent worried about line length then you 
 should be ok...
 
 However, there is something to a 'limit' on a single line for pico.. can not 
 remember what that was dealing with...
 

pico -w filenemae overrides the line length issue

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Re: (no subject)

2001-11-30 Thread David A. Bandel

Collins Richey wrote:

 On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:36:32 -0500 David A. Bandel
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
Collins Richey wrote:

[snip]

Re the 1.5.0 topic, I tried to patch 2.5.0 with the pre1 and pre2
patches.  pre2 went on with no complaints. 


Let me try one more time:
normal patches from one revision level to another (2.4.16 to 2.4.17
to 
2.4.18) must be applied in order successively.

-pre and -ac patches need to have the previous one removed before 
applying the new one (patch -R -p0 -i xxx-pre1 ; patch -p0 -i
xxx-pre2).




 
 Thanks, David
 
 That is now very clear; will remember forever.  I presume this means,
 if you have the pristine base source, you only need the very latest
 -pren or -acn patch?


correct (assuming you're using the correct base)


 
 One more question.  When I apply (using one of several methods,
 depending on whether still compressed or not, location, etc.) patch
 -p0, the patch always fails.  I have to use patch -p1.  Could you
 explain this


very simply, this:
look in the patch at the first line:

diff -Nur linux-2.4.15/Makefile linux/Makefile


This line shows you how (and where) the patch was created.  To apply 
this patch, you should be in the directory where linux (either as a 
directory or symlink) exists.  So what will be patched is linux/Makefile.

If you don't have linux or a symlink, but only linux-2.4.16 and don't 
want to create a symlink, then cd into linux-2.4.16 and use -p1.

When you use -p1, the first part of the name will be stripped (linux/), 
leaving you with Makefile, which is what will be patched.  Big note: 
while the kernel patches put out by Linus and Alan Cox are standardized 
and will always be the same, anyone creating a patch can create it 
anywhere in the source tree (or above it) (s)he wants to.  So you may 
find patches you have to cd well down into the source tree to apply. 
Just read the first line of the patch for a clue as to where to start. 
Each successive -p# removes one more part of the name.  So if the patch 
says: usr/src/linux/Makefile and you're in src/, you'll need to use -p2.

Now, the -R is (ostensibly) for Reversing the patch.  This is not 
entirely accurate (even if it is true).  What it does is apply the patch 
in reverse order using linux/, but going from the second to the first 
rather than the first to the second.  That is, rather than change lines 
that begin with - to look the lines that begin +, it changes the lines 
that look like + to ones that look like -.

Clear as mud?


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IRQ Sharing

2001-11-30 Thread Kurt Wall

Anyone here have experience with the kernel's IRQ sharing? I've got a
couple of PCI NICs in a box, both using IRQ 9. While it seems to work,
I was just wondering if anyone has run into problems with the IRQ
sharing.

Thanks,

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Re: IRQ Sharing

2001-11-30 Thread Tim Wunder

Kurt Wall wrote:

 Anyone here have experience with the kernel's IRQ sharing? I've got a
 couple of PCI NICs in a box, both using IRQ 9. While it seems to work,
 I was just wondering if anyone has run into problems with the IRQ
 sharing.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Kurt
 

None that I know of. My son's PC is using IRQ 10 for bothe his USB port 
and his NIC, and we don't have any problems with it. Then again, we 
don't have any USB devices on it, either.

Tim


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Re: [TID] Re: new install init

2001-11-30 Thread Chris Kassopulo

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:45:55 +
Declan Moriarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 30 November 2001 04:11, you wrote:
  Keith Antoine wrote:
   The real problem is that I _Cannot_ remember the commands to type in as i
   do not use an editor enough to remember. I can read however and click the
   mouse button, also joe/jove have a commands reminder key sequence that I
   can callup to jog the memory.
  
   I had a problem a while ago where I did not have access to any other
   editor than vi, it took me hours of frustration to get a line altered.
 
  Gee, if you don't edit much, you aren't coding or configuring.  Poor guy
  ;-) (Unless you code or configure Windows - then I'm really sorry for you.)
 
  Perhaps an editor you like will fit on a floppy.  Then you won't be so
  stuck.
 
 Once linux popularity spreads beyond the programming fraternity, you're going 
 to have to put up with guys who don't code, 'cos we're the majority now. I 
 struggle through life with vi using :q!, :wq, insert and delete keys. It's 
 like the old (defunct) Wordstar codes gone wrong.  I was fond of Tasword in 
 Dos (62K: is that small enough?). It's a lot like vi (obscure keystrokes), 
 with optional help on top of the screen worked as ^Fsomething, 
 Alt-Fsomething, and Shift-Fsomething. With the help on, the top of the screen 
 changes to the relevant page of help as you press Ctrl, Alt, or Shift. 
 Simple, but workable.
 
 I'm in electronics hardware, BTW, and quite friendly to guys who can't solder 
 or design ;-). Just think if electronmics was left as the preserve of those 
 who could; You'd probably have no pc ;-)  
 
 -- 
   Regards,
 
 
   Declan Moriarty
 
I have a base debian distribution on a spare drive.  It has a little editor
called ae.  It has basic functionality and help on topscreen.  I don't know
if the help can be turned off but I assume so.  It is  25k.
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Re: CD burn error

2001-11-30 Thread Net Llama

What kind of a CD are you trying to burn (ISO, hybrid, music etc)? 
Also, what's the full command that you're issuing?
Where did you get the kernel that you're using? 

--- Zoran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Nov 29 Net Llama was heard saying:
 
 snip
 - Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ...
 - cdrecord: Input/output error. mode select g1: scsi sendcmd: no
 error
 - CDB:  55 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 3C 00
 - input buffer ready.
 - status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
 -
 -What version of cdrecord? 
 
 
 *** cdrecord-1.10-4
 
 
 Has this burner ever worked?
 
 
 *** Yes, in the RH 6.x days...
 
 
 -What's the output from cdrecord --scanbus?
 
 
 *** Cdrecord 1.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001
 Jörg Schilling
 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.19
 Using libscg version 'schily-0.5'
 scsibus0:
 0,0,0 0) 'QUANTUM ' 'ATLAS_V__9_WLS  ' '0230' Disk
 0,1,0 1) *
 0,2,0 2) 'UMAX' 'Astra 610S  ' 'V1.3' Scanner
 0,3,0 3) *
 0,4,0 4) *
 0,5,0 5) *
 0,6,0 6) *
 0,7,0 7) *
 scsibus1:
 1,0,0   100) 'HITACHI ' 'CDR-8430' '0024' Removable
 CD-ROM
 1,1,0   101) 'IDE-CD  ' 'R/RW 4x4x32 ' '1.3B' Removable
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Re: IRQ Sharing

2001-11-30 Thread Declan Moriarty

On Friday 30 November 2001 15:56, you wrote:
 Kurt Wall wrote:
  Anyone here have experience with the kernel's IRQ sharing? I've got a
  couple of PCI NICs in a box, both using IRQ 9. While it seems to work,
  I was just wondering if anyone has run into problems with the IRQ

Yes, I've had bigtime problems, usually one device is seen as inaccessible, 
and I avoid it.  It's just giving the pc a good excuse not to work. Recent 
kernels have made it more possible, but the pc gets a chance to double 
errors. Mine usually takes it :-o

BTW, is there some new virus going around? I'm getting mail from people with 
a suitably technical subject line (Answering something I hadn't asked) with 
gibberish (40K or so) with an audio/x-wav file; here's 2 names from recent 
ones

YOU_ARE_FAT!.MP3.scr   or
NEWS_DOC.DOC.scr

Neither of those files would be comfortable in windoze. M$ Outlook again? And 
from memory, .scr is a screensaver, not an audio format

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Re: new virus?(was Re: IRQ Sharing)

2001-11-30 Thread John Hiemenz

On Friday 30 November 2001 11:59 am, you stated :
 On Friday 30 November 2001 15:56, you wrote:
 BTW, is there some new virus going around? I'm getting mail from people
 with a suitably technical subject line (Answering something I hadn't asked)
 with gibberish (40K or so) with an audio/x-wav file; here's 2 names from
 recent ones

 YOU_ARE_FAT!.MP3.scr   or
 NEWS_DOC.DOC.scr

 Neither of those files would be comfortable in windoze. M$ Outlook again?
 And from memory, .scr is a screensaver, not an audio format

yup, .scr is a screensaver extension, which means that if windows is hiding 
extensions for executables (which it does by default), then most people will 
only see YOU_ARE_FAT!.MP3 and NEWS_DOC.DOC

And since .scr extension, and windows consideres this an executable, double 
click it (in windows) and it is executed.  It is most likely NOT a true .scr 
file, but an executable with the .scr extension to hide the fact it is an 
.EXE program that will do something undesirable.
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Re: IRQ Sharing

2001-11-30 Thread Joel Hammer

I have IRQ sharing for PCI devices with out trouble. Each device has its own
time slice. I guess this is one reason that PCI is better than ISA.
Joel
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:16:10AM -0500, Kurt Wall wrote:
 Anyone here have experience with the kernel's IRQ sharing? I've got a
 couple of PCI NICs in a box, both using IRQ 9. While it seems to work,
 I was just wondering if anyone has run into problems with the IRQ
 sharing.
 
 Thanks,
 
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graphics program

2001-11-30 Thread Wade Barocsi

Does anyone have a suggestion for a graphics program for
making relatively simple newspaper ads.  Obviously gimp can
handle this, but is it the best choice?  Ease of use is more important
than features.

Thanks
Wade
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problem building KDE - Doug's way

2001-11-30 Thread Net Llama

I'm following Doug's Way of building KDE, and i've hit a roadblock
early on.  In step #6, where i'm supposed to build Qt, it doesn't like
the configure options at all.  
It basically complains that all of the options are invalid, and proceeds
to give me a list of all the valid possibilities.  Am i missing
something here?  

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@Home cutoff starting already?

2001-11-30 Thread Tim Wunder

Can't seem to access my @home POP mailserver, mail storage services 
unavailable. I still have access to my PC via the internet and SSH, 
though, so my access hasn't disappeared yet. Just mail, apparently. I 
turned off the mail forwarding @ inode.com so at least I'll be able to 
retreive my mail as long as access stays up. Maybe it's just the 
standard @home mailserver issues and is unrelated to the hullabaloo 
between ATT and Excite@home. Then again, maybe not...
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OTRe: @Home cutoff starting already?

2001-11-30 Thread Tim Wunder

Overreaction on my part. They're having mailserver problems unrelated to the 
bankruptcy crap...

I shoulda marked it OT to begin with, sorry...

Tim

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more KDE build problems

2001-11-30 Thread Net Llama

OK, i got the last issue resolved by removing the offending -gif
switch.  Now i'm getting ugliness when trying to compile kdelibs:
make[3]: Entering directory `/home/netllama/stuff/kdelibs-2.2.1/dcop'
/usr/lib/qt2/bin/moc ./dcopclient.h -o dcopclient.moc
/usr/lib/qt2/bin/moc ./testdcop.h -o testdcop.moc
/usr/lib/qt2/bin/moc ./dcopserver.h -o dcopserver.moc
creating libDCOP_la.all_cpp.cpp ...
/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=compile --tag=CXX c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.
-I.. -I../dcop -I../libltdl -I../kdecore -I../kdeui -I../kssl
-I/usr/lib/qt2/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/opt/kde2/include   -O3
-march=i686 -mcpu=i686 -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -pthread -D_REENTRANT
-I/usr/local/include  -DNDEBUG -O2 -O3 -march=i686 -mcpu=i686
-fno-exceptions -fno-check-new  -ftemplate-depth-99 -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION
-DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST  -c
libDCOP_la.all_cpp.cpp
mkdir .libs
c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../dcop -I../libltdl -I../kdecore
-I../kdeui -I../kssl -I/usr/lib/qt2/include -I/usr/X11R6/include
-I/opt/kde2/include -O3 -march=i686 -mcpu=i686 -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT
-pthread -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/local/include -DNDEBUG -O2 -O3 -march=i686
-mcpu=i686 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -ftemplate-depth-99
-DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_COMPAT
-DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -c libDCOP_la.all_cpp.cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o
.libs/libDCOP_la.all_cpp.o
In file included from dcopclient.cpp:52,
 from libDCOP_la.all_cpp.cpp:3:
dcopobject.h:223: ANSI C++ forbids declaration `QList' with no type
dcopobject.h:223: template-id `QListDCOPObject' used as a declarator
dcopobject.h:223: parse error before `('
dcopobject.h:286: ANSI C++ forbids declaration `QList' with no type
dcopobject.h:286: template-id `QListDCOPObjectProxy' used as a
declarator
dcopobject.h:286: parse error before `*'
In file included from libDCOP_la.all_cpp.cpp:3:
dcopclient.cpp:113: `QList' is not a template
dcopclient.cpp:113: confused by earlier errors, bailing out
make[3]: *** [libDCOP_la.all_cpp.lo] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/netllama/stuff/kdelibs-2.2.1/dcop'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/netllama/stuff/kdelibs-2.2.1/dcop'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/netllama/stuff/kdelibs-2.2.1'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2

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Re: graphics program

2001-11-30 Thread Peter Ruskin

On Friday 30 Nov 2001 20:29, Wade Barocsi wrote:
 Does anyone have a suggestion for a graphics program for
 making relatively simple newspaper ads.  Obviously gimp can
 handle this, but is it the best choice?  Ease of use is more important
 than features.

 Thanks
 Wade

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Re: excite@home going down?

2001-11-30 Thread Jerry McBride


I just heard this on the car radio on the way home from work. Excite is
allowed to
disconnect COMCAST@HOME tonight at midnight...

Everyone in New Jersey, that is a Comcast subscriber shold be raising bloddy
hell about now... :') That includes me. 

It's been nice being with you guys and even better since I signed up with
@Home...

If you don't hear from me for a while, god bless.

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Re: excite@home going down?

2001-11-30 Thread Kurt Wall

Jerry McBride wrote:
% 
% I just heard this on the car radio on the way home from work. Excite is
% allowed to
% disconnect COMCAST@HOME tonight at midnight...

No, the judge ruled that Excite@Home has the right to end its
contracts with *all* of its cable partners, not just Comcast. But,
saying they have a right to does not mean they will. Comcast is
putting the best face on it:

As of this afternoon, a Bankruptcy Court Judge ruled
that Excite@Home has the right to end its contracts
with its cable partners.  This does not necessarily mean 
that Excite@Home will turn off the service and, at this
time, we are not aware of any planned interruptions.  In
fact, we are continuing discussions with Excite and the 
other cable affiliates and creditors to do everything
possible to avoid an outage.
 
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Re: Procmail

2001-11-30 Thread Kurt Wall

Matthew Carpenter wrote:
% I am unable to get procmail to work!  I have re-m4-ed my sendmail.cf file
% to include MAILER(procmail) and everything LOOKS ok.  I have a .procmailrc
% file in the user's home directory, and yet I get no difference and no logs
% of what isn't happening!  ARG!  Help?  This is running on COLS3.1 and does include 
the added bonus of using fetchmail.  REPEAT:  This is NOT the actual target of the 
mail.  The mail is pulled from another server using POP3 using fetchmail, but 
fetchmail is supposed to connect to port 25 to deliver the mail just like it WAS the 
originator.

Did you defined PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH?

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Re: Procmail

2001-11-30 Thread Matthew Carpenter

No, but the sendmail.cf file seems to have /usr/bin/procmail, which is correct.  I 
simply added MAILER(procmail) to the generic-openlinux.mc file.  The FEATURE line was 
already there...

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:17:47 -0500
Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Matthew Carpenter wrote:
 % I am unable to get procmail to work!  I have re-m4-ed my sendmail.cf file
 % to include MAILER(procmail) and everything LOOKS ok.  I have a .procmailrc
 % file in the user's home directory, and yet I get no difference and no logs
 % of what isn't happening!  ARG!  Help?  This is running on COLS3.1 and does include 
the added bonus of using fetchmail.  REPEAT:  This is NOT the actual target of the 
mail.  The mail is pulled from another server using POP3 using fetchmail, but 
fetchmail is supposed to connect to port 25 to deliver the mail just like it WAS the 
originator.
 
 Did you defined PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH?
 
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Re: (no subject)

2001-11-30 Thread Collins Richey

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 07:49:19 -0500 David A. Bandel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Collins Richey wrote:
 
  On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:36:32 -0500 David A. Bandel
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 Collins Richey wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
 Re the 1.5.0 topic, I tried to patch 2.5.0 with the pre1 and pre2
 patches.  pre2 went on with no complaints. 
 
 
 Let me try one more time:
 normal patches from one revision level to another (2.4.16 to
 2.4.17
 to 
 2.4.18) must be applied in order successively.
 
 -pre and -ac patches need to have the previous one removed before 
 applying the new one (patch -R -p0 -i xxx-pre1 ; patch -p0 -i
 xxx-pre2).
 
 
 
 
  
  Thanks, David
  
  That is now very clear; will remember forever.  I presume this
 means,
  if you have the pristine base source, you only need the very
 latest
  -pren or -acn patch?
 
 
 correct (assuming you're using the correct base)
 
 
  
  One more question.  When I apply (using one of several methods,
  depending on whether still compressed or not, location, etc.)
 patch
  -p0, the patch always fails.  I have to use patch -p1.  Could you
  explain this
 
 
 very simply, this:
 look in the patch at the first line:
 
 diff -Nur linux-2.4.15/Makefile linux/Makefile
 
 
 This line shows you how (and where) the patch was created.  To apply
 this patch, you should be in the directory where linux (either as a 
 directory or symlink) exists.  So what will be patched is
 linux/Makefile.
 
 If you don't have linux or a symlink, but only linux-2.4.16 and
 don't 
 want to create a symlink, then cd into linux-2.4.16 and use -p1.
 
 When you use -p1, the first part of the name will be stripped
 (linux/), 
 leaving you with Makefile, which is what will be patched.  Big note:
 while the kernel patches put out by Linus and Alan Cox are
 standardized 
 and will always be the same, anyone creating a patch can create it 
 anywhere in the source tree (or above it) (s)he wants to.  So you
 may 
 find patches you have to cd well down into the source tree to apply.
 Just read the first line of the patch for a clue as to where to
 start. 
 Each successive -p# removes one more part of the name.  So if the
 patch 
 says: usr/src/linux/Makefile and you're in src/, you'll need to use
 -p2.
 
 Now, the -R is (ostensibly) for Reversing the patch.  This is not 
 entirely accurate (even if it is true).  What it does is apply the
 patch 
 in reverse order using linux/, but going from the second to the
 first 
 rather than the first to the second.  That is, rather than change
 lines 
 that begin with - to look the lines that begin +, it changes the
 lines 
 that look like + to ones that look like -.
 
 Clear as mud?
 

Very clear; it's a keeper for me.

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Re: excite@home going down?

2001-11-30 Thread Collins Richey

Final thoughts for tonight.

There are two conflicting versions making the rounds.  The story on 
this group is that excite@home may terminate supplier agreements 
   ^^^
at midnight tonight.  

The story on msnbc.com says: A U.S. bankruptcy judge ordered 
  
 ^^^
Excite@Home to shut down its highspeed Internet service at
  ^^ 
midnight on Friday. 

We have not received work from ATT (as promised - to email and 
by phone) to switch to the alternate network they are setting up.

We'll see tomorrow AM.  I'm certainly not staying up until
midnight to check.

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rpm not found

2001-11-30 Thread Keith Antoine


I updated to kde-2.2.2 and found that I cannot use the kpackage to install 
rpms its broken once again. However I used the konsole to install no real 
problem till today. It all of a sudden tells me that there is no such command 
as rpm anymore, yes I was in root. So I have lost the ability to install rpms 
and of course I ahve quite a few to put in, no I do not want to compile, make 
install all day if I can get rpm back. Trouble is I am stumped as to where I 
can get and reinstall this easily, I cannot use an rpm to do this.

I am in Suse 7.3

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Re: [TID] Re: new install init

2001-11-30 Thread Keith Antoine

On Friday 30 November 2001 14:11, Dave Anselmi enunciated:

 Gee, if you don't edit much, you aren't coding or configuring.  Poor guy
 ;-) (Unless you code or configure Windows - then I'm really sorry for you.)

I hav ebeen a hardware guy since 1956 when the word computer was unknown. I 
have never coded or ever had the wish to do so, by modern standards. Had a 
massive heart attack in 93 that had a deliterious effect on short term memory.
So that I have lost a great deal of my abilities.

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Fwd: ANN: Procmail Sanitizer 1.131 is released

2001-11-30 Thread Douglas J Hunley

fyi

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Subject: ANN: Procmail Sanitizer 1.131 is released
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:14:15 -0800 (PST)
From: John D. Hardin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Procmail List [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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The procmail sanitizer has been updated. The current version is 1.131
It is available via:

US:  http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/procmail-security.html
NO:  http://jhardin.oftedal.no/email-tools/procmail-security.html
AU:  http://grebopple.accessunited.com.au/email-tools/procmail-security.html
AU:  http://impsec.fuzzitech.net/~jhardin/email-tools/procmail-security.html

- From the changelog:

11/22/2001 (1.131)
Fixed the script so that it now actually respects the setting of
$SECURITY_TRUST_HTML.
Added support for the Perl regular expression (?...) construct in the
 poisoned files list, so that more flexible poisoning lists may be
 constructed - see man perlex for details. See the recommended poison list
 for examples.
Fixed a bug that caused the sanitizer to misinterpret multi-line RFC822
Content-Type headers, leading to attachments not being sanitized.
Added a hack to recognize filenames in Content-Description comment headers,
where MS Outlook helpfully looks for a filename if one isn't specified in
the Content-Type or Content-Disposition headers; if you don't want
Content-Description to be modified, define $SECURITY_DISABLE_OUTLOOK_HACKS to
be any value.
Recognize multipart attachment specification where the MIME boundary string
 is not in quotes.
Added $SECURITY_NONOTIFY_LONGSUBJECT to suppress long-subject-header
notifications.
Remove trailing spaces from attachment filenames.
Remove trailing spaces if truncating long attachment filename with embedded
spaces.
Defer echo of Content-Type and Content-Transfer-Encoding headers to remove
the need for default filename generation and to make inserted warnings
display properly.
Fix misparsing of the attachment following an empty attachment.
Cosmetic fix in one warning message.
Added $STRIPPED_EXECUTABLES to strip attachments by name in a manner similar
 to $POISONED_EXECUTABLES - stripping an attachment does not poison the
 entire message.

All of these new things may once again make the script too big for AIX...
If so, try the no-macro-scan version.

The opt-out processor appears stable. ISP's really should take a look at it.

The sanitizer home page is at
http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/procmail-security.html


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more kernel questions

2001-11-30 Thread Collins Richey

If you comiple everything built into the kernel, is there any need to
run make modules and make modules_install?

For the last few 2.4.x releases there's been a broken agp-sis function
(compile errors).  The config always seems to turn on
CONFIG_AGP_SIS=y.  Is there any way to avoid this config item being
set?  I comment it out, and my kernel compiles and runs ok.

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Re: more kernel questions

2001-11-30 Thread Joel Hammer

Make modules install hasn't worked on my machine in many months.
You don't have to make modules if you don't have any to make. In fact, even
if you do have some modules chosen, if you don't use the, it doesn't matter either way.
Joel
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 08:22:24PM -0700, Collins Richey wrote:
 If you comiple everything built into the kernel, is there any need to
 run make modules and make modules_install?
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Re: more kernel questions

2001-11-30 Thread Collins Richey

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:35:10 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Make modules install hasn't worked on my machine in many months.
 You don't have to make modules if you don't have any to make. In
 fact, even
 if you do have some modules chosen, if you don't use the, it doesn't
 matter either way.
 Joel
 On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 08:22:24PM -0700, Collins Richey wrote:
  If you comiple everything built into the kernel, is there any need
 to
  run make modules and make modules_install?

I haven't had any problems with make modules_install.  Until tonight I
had printer support, tulip card support, scsi emulation support, and
sound card support in modules - sheer laziness, my config file is as
old as the 2.4 kernel series.  Finally tonight, I went through all the
choices, and now I have a nice monolithic kernel.

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Re: IRQ Sharing

2001-11-30 Thread Net Llama


--- Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone here have experience with the kernel's IRQ sharing? I've got a
 couple of PCI NICs in a box, both using IRQ 9. While it seems to work,
 I was just wondering if anyone has run into problems with the IRQ
 sharing.

I've never run into problems.  The (relatively) new feature in recent
2.4.x kernels for uniproc APIC allows for fairly reliable management of
devices that share an IRQ.
On 2 of my boxes (that happen to be virtually identical HW wise) I have
three IRQs that are being shared (9, 10  11) with no noticable
performance problems.

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Re: graphics program

2001-11-30 Thread Ronnie Gauthier

Simple ads can easily be done in any decent office suite like Star Office 
with the word procesor.

On Friday 30 November 2001 20:29, Wade Barocsi wrote:
 Does anyone have a suggestion for a graphics program for
 making relatively simple newspaper ads.  Obviously gimp can
 handle this, but is it the best choice?  Ease of use is more important
 than features.

 Thanks
 Wade
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Linksys Wireless Troubles

2001-11-30 Thread Vern W Heesch

I am in need of help with setting up the WPC11 pcmcia card for my laptop. I 
have qwest DSL with a dynamic ip. The laptop is running OpenLinux 3.1. I 
tried to follow the step by step, but I must be missing something. After 
loading pcmcia-cs-3.1.30 I now get power to the card but no 'activity' on the 
thing, as in the green light is always dark.

shouldn't I have loaded a kernel module for this card? If so, which one?

My network.opts is as follows: I got this info from windows on same laptop
IP ADDR=10.0.0.5
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=
BROADCAST=10.0.0.255
#
GATEWAY=10.0.0.1
#
DOMAIN=
SEARCH=
DNS_1=206.81.192.1
DNS_2=204.147.80.5

I don't understand what is needed for NETWORK, DOMAIN and SEARCH. Are they 
all required fields? Also, the laptop has a built-in ethernet as eth0 and the 
WPC11 is eth1. Can both be loaded at boot time? Am I going to be able to use 
wireless or wired whichever I choose without reconfiguring something? As you 
can tell, I know little about wireless, laptops and networking and linux. So 
far I have muddled through all my other problems with the help of this list 
and the step-by-steps. Any help would be appreciated.

vern
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Procmail

2001-11-30 Thread Matthew Carpenter

I am unable to get procmail to work!  I have re-m4-ed my sendmail.cf file
to include MAILER(procmail) and everything LOOKS ok.  I have a .procmailrc
file in the user's home directory, and yet I get no difference and no logs
of what isn't happening!  ARG!  Help?  This is running on COLS3.1 and does include the 
added bonus of using fetchmail.  REPEAT:  This is NOT the actual target of the mail.  
The mail is pulled from another server using POP3 using fetchmail, but fetchmail is 
supposed to connect to port 25 to deliver the mail just like it WAS the originator.

Thanks,
Matt

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