Re: MySQL front ends, was: Re: no printing from kmail
By Front End do you mean something like Access has for it's own databases? With most SQL RDBMS's you will find that the best front end for them is a GUI tool which allows you to send SQL commands in a simple way. For this, I like KMySQL. Other than that, you aren't going to find any Access-like front ends for real database servers. Even Access won't allow you to create databases and tables on MSSQL servers. You still have to use the tools for the DBMS, some of which are better than others. begin David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:08:15 -0500) On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 00:38:23 +1130 begin Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 23:18, Ted Ozolins wrote: Aside from tutorials on the web, and help from some local programmers, I'll be attempting to set up Mysql for this. sometimes I practice really really hard to be an idiot. This is one where I went the extra mile and outdid myself. I cannot find *anything* out there in gui land that even begins to do it. All this talk about mysql etc is find and good but what front end are you going to use. I've tried Kylix, hk_classes, even kde's not-for-public-consumption Kbase, I cannot find a single front end that will let me enter data into a (mysql) dbase or any other 'server'. And it's this that gets me really really confuzed because, if there's a server such as mysql, where the hell is the front end for it? What obvious bit have I missed? xmysql, webmin mysql module, phpmysqladmin, and there are others (tk module, ...) Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: MySQL front ends, was: Re: no printing from kmail
On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 21:16, Matthew Carpenter wrote: By Front End do you mean something like Access has for it's own databases? I'm floundering with databases, so 'yes', that type of thing would be what I'm looking for. (but I don't know too much about Access either) Although I think I understood your explanation, I don't follow why it would be so difficult to have a front end (so to speak) for a mysql dbase server. What's so difficult about creating (say) a simple name and address book dbase using a 'standard' tool? It's the 'standard tool' I can't find, apart from Knoda/Rekall. I can follow along ok if I had to program it myself using (say) perl, but I don't follow why this simple need can't be fairly generic. Not a complaint, not a whinge, I truthfully don't understand where the tuff bit is, and it must be tuff, coz there's nothing out there (yet). -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: MySQL front ends, was: Re: no printing from kmail
On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 04:46:09 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By Front End do you mean something like Access has for it's own databases? With most SQL RDBMS's you will find that the best front end for them is a GUI tool which allows you to send SQL commands in a simple way. For this, I like KMySQL. Is there a good equivalent for the PostgreSQL environment? -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - ELX rc1 with xfce and sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: MySQL front ends, was: Re: no printing from kmail
On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 05:54:55 -0700 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 04:46:09 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For this, I like KMySQL. Is there a good equivalent for the PostgreSQL environment? Found this is a google search for kmysql. KSql, previously known as KMySql is a KDE database client. It was originaly mySQL specific, but uses now plugins to access databases like miniSQL and PostgreSQL. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - ELX rc1 with xfce and sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: MySQL front ends, was: Re: no printing from kmail
On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 05:54:55 -0700 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a good equivalent for the PostgreSQL environment? Sorry, forgot the url: http://ksql.sourceforge.net/ -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: MySQL front ends, was: Re: no printing from kmail
On Saturday 09 February 2002 03:41 am, Mike Andrew wrote: Although I think I understood your explanation, I don't follow why it would be so difficult to have a front end (so to speak) for a mysql dbase server. What's so difficult about creating (say) a simple name and address book dbase using a 'standard' tool? It's the 'standard tool' I can't find, apart from Knoda/Rekall. I can follow along ok if I had to program it myself using (say) perl, but I don't follow why this simple need can't be fairly generic. Not a complaint, not a whinge, I truthfully don't understand where the tuff bit is, and it must be tuff, coz there's nothing out there (yet). After checking out countless sites looking for information on setting up Mysql, I came upon: http://www.devshed.com/Server_Side/PHP/SoothinglySeemless This site does not offer a simple front end per say but does offer a step-by-step tutorial on setting up an integrated Apache-PHP-MYSQL sever. This could be an overkill for what you need, but its worth looking over. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: MySQL front ends, was: Re: no printing from kmail
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 12:31, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Monday 04 Feb 2002 21:08, David A. Bandel wrote: xmysql, webmin mysql module, phpmysqladmin, and there are others (tk module, ...) afaik, none of these are user front ends. Again, afaik, none of them allow you to design a dbase, then enter data, in an IDE fashion. They are tools for designing an ide. ... and from KDE there are Rekall and knoda disappointed with Rekall, and am using knoda at moment. It is very alpha, and under-developed. But, as a user front end, Knoda seems to be the only thing 'out there' and is the best of a poor bunch. I have supplied some patch code to the developer (of Knoda), he's tame, friendly, and overworked. I can't put very much effort into helping him because SQL is a mystery to me. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On Tuesday 29 January 2002 09:15 pm, Ted Ozolins warbled: I better hurry up and settle on a distro soon as I have a neet to set up a data base for cross refferencing partnumbers. no sarcasm intended. How are you going to do that? What database? I've found nothing 'out there' that's useable. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On Sunday 03 February 2002 11:16 pm, Mike Andrew wrote: On Tuesday 29 January 2002 09:15 pm, Ted Ozolins warbled: I better hurry up and settle on a distro soon as I have a neet to set up a data base for cross refferencing partnumbers. no sarcasm intended. How are you going to do that? What database? I've found nothing 'out there' that's useable. None taken Mike. You are absolutely right, I have searched every site on this planet looking for a package that would allow me to do this. As it turns out, I'll have to do this the hard way. Until now I've had no need to play with any data base programs of any kind. Aside from tutorials on the web, and help from some local programmers, I'll be attempting to set up Mysql for this. I rebuild and calibrate a lot of Tek and Fluke/Phillips equipment. The newer models aren't to hard to get parts for, but some of the older (esp Tek) models at times impossible. I have on many occasion gone through spec sheets and sub'd parts by comparing hfe and other characteristics of a particular transistor to fix various scopes. This can be quite time consuming. So, I've started to work on a database (Mysql) that will allow me to query for values other than cross ref replacement tables found at local distributors. This is one project that seems almost endless but once completed, will be an invaluable tool. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 23:18, Ted Ozolins wrote: Aside from tutorials on the web, and help from some local programmers, I'll be attempting to set up Mysql for this. sometimes I practice really really hard to be an idiot. This is one where I went the extra mile and outdid myself. I cannot find *anything* out there in gui land that even begins to do it. All this talk about mysql etc is find and good but what front end are you going to use. I've tried Kylix, hk_classes, even kde's not-for-public-consumption Kbase, I cannot find a single front end that will let me enter data into a (mysql) dbase or any other 'server'. And it's this that gets me really really confuzed because, if there's a server such as mysql, where the hell is the front end for it? What obvious bit have I missed? -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: MySQL front ends, was: Re: no printing from kmail
On Monday 04 Feb 2002 21:08, David A. Bandel wrote: On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 00:38:23 +1130 begin Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 23:18, Ted Ozolins wrote: Aside from tutorials on the web, and help from some local programmers, I'll be attempting to set up Mysql for this. sometimes I practice really really hard to be an idiot. This is one where I went the extra mile and outdid myself. I cannot find *anything* out there in gui land that even begins to do it. All this talk about mysql etc is find and good but what front end are you going to use. I've tried Kylix, hk_classes, even kde's not-for-public-consumption Kbase, I cannot find a single front end that will let me enter data into a (mysql) dbase or any other 'server'. And it's this that gets me really really confuzed because, if there's a server such as mysql, where the hell is the front end for it? What obvious bit have I missed? xmysql, webmin mysql module, phpmysqladmin, and there are others (tk module, ...) Ciao, David A. Bandel ... and from KDE there are Rekall and knoda -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. AMD Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB RAM. Registered Linux User 219434. Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Up 6 hours 36 minutes. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On Tuesday 29 January 2002 09:15 pm, Ted Ozolins warbled: I had SuSe 7.3 on this machine for a few days (FTP install) and had one hell of a time getting my printer to work (Canon 4200) and could not set up samba printing no how. I then tried Mandrake 8.1 and got both local and samba printing set up and working. I'm not too impressed with Mandrake but thats more because of personal taste rather than technical. I better hurry up and settle on a distro soon as I have a neet to set up a data base for cross refferencing partnumbers. Dang! just too many choices. Yes, I have gone to Mandrake too, just too many hassles with Suse. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On 01/31/2002 09:22 PM, Keith Antoine wrote: On Tuesday 29 January 2002 09:15 pm, Ted Ozolins warbled: I had SuSe 7.3 on this machine for a few days (FTP install) and had one hell of a time getting my printer to work (Canon 4200) and could not set up samba printing no how. I then tried Mandrake 8.1 and got both local and samba printing set up and working. I'm not too impressed with Mandrake but thats more because of personal taste rather than technical. I better hurry up and settle on a distro soon as I have a neet to set up a data base for cross refferencing partnumbers. Dang! just too many choices. Yes, I have gone to Mandrake too, just too many hassles with Suse. Hi all, Interesting and timely info ;-) mini-rant I have been using Caldera since CND1 circa 1995, and have been pretty happy with the quality of their distrobution, and their innovation, until the big Linux for Business push of a couple of years ago. It seems that they have no clear direction, and are continually looking for some elusive goal of making the big bucks off business, who appear to be persuaded more by restrictive license clauses and high prices, than the actual what-you-get-for-your-money product. Kinda sad actually. /mini-rant At this point, I am considering switching distros, and am considering both SuSE and Mandrake (I still can't bring myself to use RedHat...yet) and possibly others. I need to consider both workstation and server application for both home and business use, although there probably isn't one distro which is equally adept for all applications, I'm interested to hear anyone's opinions on the options. My main criteria are: - stability/security - A distro with some continuity/upgradability/sense of direction. Wipe-clean/install-new gets to be a PITA very quickly, particularly with multiple installations in different locations, location-specific configurations, etc... - reasonable price without unreasonable license restrictions. I don't necessarily mind paying for specific commercial apps, but If I want per-seat licensing, I can use Windoze and make management reasonably happy. - Not bleeding edge, but reasonably current - other criteria which I haven't thought of yet ;-) Any comments welcome. TNX, John V. -- _/- John Voigt - K9GBO -|- Registered Linux User #38558 --_/ _/- Reclamation Specialist --|- IN Dept of Natural Resources -_/ _/- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -|- (812) 665-2207 --_/ A shortcut is the longest distance between two points. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On Thursday 31 January 2002 9:36 am, John Voigt wrote: At this point, I am considering switching distros, and am considering both SuSE and Mandrake (I still can't bring myself to use RedHat...yet) and possibly others. I need to consider both workstation and server application for both home and business use, although there probably isn't one distro which is equally adept for all applications, I'm interested to hear anyone's opinions on the options. I switched to SuSE from eD2.4 and have been very happy. First with 7.2 and now with 7.3.With 7.2, CUPs was the default printer setup but I didn't use it, instead I installed the latest LPRng (like I always did with Caldera). I notice that with 7.3 they switched to LPRng as the default so that was a no-brainer. My main criteria are: - stability/security Have had no problems. I don't heavily use the on-line (and automatic) update facility but it is there and works well. - A distro with some continuity/upgradability/sense of direction. Wipe-clean/install-new gets to be a PITA very quickly, particularly with multiple installations in different locations, location-specific configurations, etc... SuSE seems to put out a new release about every 4 months. I can't really attest to how well it upgrades from one release to the next as I tend to always do fresh installs. - reasonable price without unreasonable license restrictions. I don't necessarily mind paying for specific commercial apps, but If I want per-seat licensing, I can use Windoze and make management reasonably happy. Seems to fit the bill there. - Not bleeding edge, but reasonably current Same - other criteria which I haven't thought of yet ;-) How about almost every piece of software written for Linux? (although they don't include webmin for some reason) I've been a very happy SuSE user and now that I notice this is the linux.nf list I can say that I feel badly for some users of Caldera who are still fighting the I want to install xyz but I can't get: it to compile/get by the dependencies etc etc. One reason I left Caldera was that I felt it was falling too far behind between releases and the split between WS and Server was not what I wanted. An SuSE distribution can be any kind of machine you want to make it and the machine I am typing this on is both server and WS. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 01/31/02 09:47 + ++ There are two ways to slide easily through life: to believe everything or to doubt everything; both ways save us from thinking. - Alfred Korzybski ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: no printing from kmail
On Thursday 31 January 2002 9:36 am, John Voigt wrote:
At this point, I am considering switching distros, and am
considering both
SuSE and Mandrake (I still can't bring myself to use
RedHat...yet) and
possibly others. I need to consider both workstation and server
application for both home and business use, although there
probably isn't
one distro which is equally adept for all applications, I'm
interested to
hear anyone's opinions on the options.
I switched to SuSE from eD2.4 and have been very happy.
First with 7.2 and
now with 7.3.
Ditto on this and all of the areas I've not addressed below.
- stability/security
Have had no problems. I don't heavily use the on-line (and
automatic) update
facility but it is there and works well.
I have used it and the only problem has been that I'd let it slide too long
without, so my ISP connection would time out if I tried to update 50+
patches at once. If I split it into two groups ('security' patches in one
and 'recommended' patches in another) it worked fine. The option to select
which patches to update made this an easy process.
- A distro with some continuity/upgradability/sense of direction.
Wipe-clean/install-new gets to be a PITA very quickly,
particularly with
multiple installations in different locations, location-specific
configurations, etc...
SuSE seems to put out a new release about every 4 months. I
can't really
attest to how well it upgrades from one release to the next
as I tend to
always do fresh installs.
The 7.2-7.3 upgrade was easier than falling off a log (and *much* less
painful).
- other criteria which I haven't thought of yet ;-)
I liked it well enough to write a song about SuSE:
SxS - Distros - URL Links ... - SuSE section - A Song for SuSE
More than that, I have an old 56K ISA modem (USR, but the one with*out* the
switches to make it easy to configure). SuSE is the only distro I've tried
that recognized it and set it up correctly (and with no input from me).
Tried Caldera eD2.4 (liked it but no modem), RedHat (OK, but no modem
other problems), Slackware (no dice) and a few others. Only SuSE made that
old modem work. Without it I have to fall back on my external 28.8 modem!
In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord,
Tom :-})
+--+
| Thomas A. Condonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
| Computer Engineer phone: (360) 315-7609|
| Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358|
+--+
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On Thursday 31 January 2002 12:15 pm, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: More than that, I have an old 56K ISA modem (USR, but the one with*out* the switches to make it easy to configure). SuSE is the only distro I've tried that recognized it and set it up correctly (and with no input from me). Tried Caldera eD2.4 (liked it but no modem), RedHat (OK, but no modem other problems), Slackware (no dice) and a few others. Only SuSE made that old modem work. Without it I have to fall back on my external 28.8 modem! Naw... you'd just spend about 15 minutes setting up pppd and getting on-line. I've never let any distro mess with the modem. (SuSE 7.3 here) -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 01/31/02 12:26 + ++ You might be a high-tech Red-neck if: you have Dilbert comics displayed anywhere in your work area ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
[ snips ] On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:36:45 -0500 John Voigt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At this point, I am considering switching distros, and am considering both SuSE and Mandrake (I still can't bring myself to use RedHat...yet) and possibly others. I need to consider both workstation and server application for both home and business use, although there probably isn't one distro which is equally adept for all applications, I'm interested to hear anyone's opinions on the options. long term, gentoo is the answer My main criteria are: - stability/security getting there; will be more so when 1.0 is released. - A distro with some continuity/upgradability/sense of direction. Wipe-clean/install-new gets to be a PITA very quickly, particularly with multiple installations in different locations, location-specific configurations, etc... yes - reasonable price without unreasonable license restrictions. I don't necessarily mind paying for specific commercial apps, but If I want per-seat licensing, I can use Windoze and make management reasonably happy. The price is right - a total of zip per seat. - Not bleeding edge, but reasonably current Always. You can stay either way and change that at any time - other criteria which I haven't thought of yet ;-) I used gentoo for a year or more - quite stable. gentoo has ported the FreeBSD way of installing maintenance (ports) to the linux arena. The gentoo portage system makes available all reasonable current versions of software packages via on-the-fly download from any available repository. The only drawback at present is that this is install from source. As gentoo matures, they will offer pre-compiled binaries as well. You can certainly do desktop and server support from the gentoo base. Or, you can make the plunge and checkout the real thing - see my signature below grin FreeBSD offers all of what you are looking for, but the drawback is that they don't support every imaginable peripheral yet. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - FreeBSD 4.4 + xfce + sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:33, Leon A. Goldstein observed: Keith Antoine lamented: I have had problems with Suse and printing, unfortunately your hint didn't work either. Try turboprint. Use it with the Generic UNIX LPD print system http://www.turboprint.de/ Turboprint will add tp0. Use this printer for kmail and other KDE apps. Turboprint solved my printer diarrhea problem with OL 3.1.1 beta. Umm! I have that downloaded too, thanks. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:24, Ted Ozolins observed: On Monday 28 January 2002 02:11 pm, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Monday 28 Jan 2002 02:33, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: Keith Antoine lamented: I have had problems with Suse and printing, unfortunately your hint didn't work either. Try turboprint. Use it with the Generic UNIX LPD print system http://www.turboprint.de/ Turboprint will add tp0. Use this printer for kmail and other KDE apps. Turboprint solved my printer diarrhea problem with OL 3.1.1 beta. I'd like to try that too, but they don't have a driver for my HP DeskJet 720C - CUPS has. One other thought, in the printer dialog window, is the name of the printer as you set it to be correct? I have tried all printer dialog entries and I have about 6, one now does work. However i would prefer CUPS but that does NOT work for me on Suse 7.3. Just found another problem too in that I started a print job from a webpage that was black on blue, unreadable. Tried to stop the print but had no sucess with any gui frontend and one had 'stop' 'finish' with no results. There are quite a few problem areas in both Mandrake and Suse for me, Printer, second CD drive (not being seen by cdrecord -scanbus as scsi); funny one this too as xcdroast sees the writer but not the dvd drive, Koncd sees the cdrive but not the writer. Printer install on Suse does not include CUPS as a default load, I have had no sucess with loading it. I also wish to install GRUB but again in Suse its a non issue. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:34, Peter Ruskin observed: One other thought, in the printer dialog window, is the name of the printer as you set it to be correct? Yes. Thanks for your input Ted. Actually I can print from kmail using CUPS, but I'm not happy with it. Only kedit prints as I expect, honouring my printer options set in .lpotions. All the other KDE apps print with double line spacing. I think this is a KDE 2.2.2 problem. Hell, all I want is it to print using CUPS, double line spaces or not. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On Tuesday 29 January 2002 05:51 pm, Keith Antoine wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:34, Peter Ruskin observed: One other thought, in the printer dialog window, is the name of the printer as you set it to be correct? Yes. Thanks for your input Ted. Actually I can print from kmail using CUPS, but I'm not happy with it. Only kedit prints as I expect, honouring my printer options set in .lpotions. All the other KDE apps print with double line spacing. I think this is a KDE 2.2.2 problem. Hell, all I want is it to print using CUPS, double line spaces or not. I had SuSe 7.3 on this machine for a few days (FTP install) and had one hell of a time getting my printer to work (Canon 4200) and could not set up samba printing no how. I then tried Mandrake 8.1 and got both local and samba printing set up and working. I'm not too impressed with Mandrake but thats more because of personal taste rather than technical. I better hurry up and settle on a distro soon as I have a neet to set up a data base for cross refferencing partnumbers. Dang! just too many choices. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On Monday 28 Jan 2002 02:33, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: Keith Antoine lamented: I have had problems with Suse and printing, unfortunately your hint didn't work either. Try turboprint. Use it with the Generic UNIX LPD print system http://www.turboprint.de/ Turboprint will add tp0. Use this printer for kmail and other KDE apps. Turboprint solved my printer diarrhea problem with OL 3.1.1 beta. I'd like to try that too, but they don't have a driver for my HP DeskJet 720C - CUPS has. -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. AMD Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB RAM. Registered Linux User 219434. Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Up 9 hours 15 minutes. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On Monday 28 January 2002 02:11 pm, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Monday 28 Jan 2002 02:33, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: Keith Antoine lamented: I have had problems with Suse and printing, unfortunately your hint didn't work either. Try turboprint. Use it with the Generic UNIX LPD print system http://www.turboprint.de/ Turboprint will add tp0. Use this printer for kmail and other KDE apps. Turboprint solved my printer diarrhea problem with OL 3.1.1 beta. I'd like to try that too, but they don't have a driver for my HP DeskJet 720C - CUPS has. Perhaps you could delete or add another printer and go through the hoops and try a test page again. Then try printing from KMail. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On Monday 28 January 2002 02:11 pm, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Monday 28 Jan 2002 02:33, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: Keith Antoine lamented: I have had problems with Suse and printing, unfortunately your hint didn't work either. Try turboprint. Use it with the Generic UNIX LPD print system http://www.turboprint.de/ Turboprint will add tp0. Use this printer for kmail and other KDE apps. Turboprint solved my printer diarrhea problem with OL 3.1.1 beta. I'd like to try that too, but they don't have a driver for my HP DeskJet 720C - CUPS has. One other thought, in the printer dialog window, is the name of the printer as you set it to be correct? -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On Monday 28 Jan 2002 22:24, Ted Ozolins wrote: On Monday 28 January 2002 02:11 pm, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Monday 28 Jan 2002 02:33, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: Keith Antoine lamented: I have had problems with Suse and printing, unfortunately your hint didn't work either. Try turboprint. Use it with the Generic UNIX LPD print system http://www.turboprint.de/ Turboprint will add tp0. Use this printer for kmail and other KDE apps. Turboprint solved my printer diarrhea problem with OL 3.1.1 beta. I'd like to try that too, but they don't have a driver for my HP DeskJet 720C - CUPS has. One other thought, in the printer dialog window, is the name of the printer as you set it to be correct? Yes. Thanks for your input Ted. Actually I can print from kmail using CUPS, but I'm not happy with it. Only kedit prints as I expect, honouring my printer options set in .lpotions. All the other KDE apps print with double line spacing. I think this is a KDE 2.2.2 problem. -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. AMD Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB RAM. Registered Linux User 219434. Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Up 9 hours 34 minutes. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On Sunday 27 January 2002 01:43 am, Keith Antoine wrote: I had problems with printing from kmail with lpr and wierd printer names in the print window. I therefore killed the std bsd printing spooler and installed CUPS. I was able to print from a saved html page in $HOME but kmail does not print still. No messages or anything and the same selections as the web page which did print. Konqueror also does not print.. I had the same problem here, then for the heck of it instead of selecting CUPS I decided to select Generic UNIX LPD print system and now printing works in KMail. I'm using Mandrake 8.1 and CUPS. As always YMMV. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 22:32,Ted Ozolins scribed: On Sunday 27 January 2002 01:43 am, Keith Antoine wrote: I had problems with printing from kmail with lpr and wierd printer names in the print window. I therefore killed the std bsd printing spooler and installed CUPS. I was able to print from a saved html page in $HOME but kmail does not print still. No messages or anything and the same selections as the web page which did print. Konqueror also does not print.. I had the same problem here, then for the heck of it instead of selecting CUPS I decided to select Generic UNIX LPD print system and now printing works in KMail. I'm using Mandrake 8.1 and CUPS. As always YMMV. I have had problems with Suse and printing, unfortunately your hint didn't work either. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
Keith Antoine lamented: I have had problems with Suse and printing, unfortunately your hint didn't work either. Try turboprint. Use it with the Generic UNIX LPD print system http://www.turboprint.de/ Turboprint will add tp0. Use this printer for kmail and other KDE apps. Turboprint solved my printer diarrhea problem with OL 3.1.1 beta. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera Linux 2.4 System 5WV271 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
