Re: [WSG] help needed in validating webpage
Ok I have fixed up the problems and worked around them (got rid of target etc) So wen i valiadted I have no 'errors' but i get this message: Result: Tentatively passed validation File:Cartoon.html Encoding:utf-8 Doctype:XHTML 1.0 Strict Root Namespace: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml No Character Encoding Found! Falling back to UTF-8. I was not able to extract a character encoding labeling from any of the valid sources for such information. Without encoding information it is impossible to reliably validate the document. I'm falling back to the UTF-8 encoding and will attempt to perform the validation, but this is likely to fail for all non-trivial documents. Read the FAQ entry on character encoding for more details and pointers on how to fix this problem with your document. Note: The Validator XML support has some limitations. wat does this mean??? Thanks again for all you guys (and girls) help
Re: [WSG] help needed in validating webpage
On 4/12/06, Germ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the strict DTD for XHTML1.0 doesnt allow javascript right??? so if u want javascript included u wuld use the loose DTD?? Am i right in saying this??? Nope. :-) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Website accessibility statement
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 02:16 am, Chris Taylor wrote: The site, in case you want to have a look and try to break it is http://newserver.emis-online.com. Any constructive criticisms will be gladly accepted. Many thanks Chris Hi Chris, Nice looking layout - just a couple of issues (using Firefox 1.5.0.1 on OpenSUSE 10): 1. Drop down menus go behind the central image (the future of primary care computing) on the home page. Menus work on other pages. 2. The central image (the future of primary care computing) on the home page is about 80 pixels wider than the logo and nav bar areas. -- Regards, Steve Bathurst Computer Solutions URL: www.bathurstcomputers.com.au e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 0407 224 251 _ ... (0) ... / / \ .. / / . ) .. V_/_ Linux Powered! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Website accessibility statement
The website help link on pages other than home shows on a 2nd line .. i assume that you want this to show next to copyright link Firefox 1.5.01 and IE 6.0379 on windows 2003 Digby Steve Olive wrote: On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 02:16 am, Chris Taylor wrote: The site, in case you want to have a look and try to break it is http://newserver.emis-online.com. Any constructive criticisms will be gladly accepted. Many thanks Chris Hi Chris, Nice looking layout - just a couple of issues (using Firefox 1.5.0.1 on OpenSUSE 10): 1. Drop down menus go behind the central image (the future of primary care computing) on the home page. Menus work on other pages. 2. The central image (the future of primary care computing) on the home page is about 80 pixels wider than the logo and nav bar areas. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Website accessibility statement
Thanks Digby, actually it is right that the help link appears lower down - there will be more links on there eventually. Chris From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Digby Field Sent: 12 April 2006 11:33 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Website accessibility statement The website help link on pages other than home shows on a 2nd line .. i assume that you want this to show next to copyright link Firefox 1.5.01 and IE 6.0379 on windows 2003 Digby Steve Olive wrote: On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 02:16 am, Chris Taylor wrote: The site, in case you want to have a look and try to break it is http://newserver.emis-online.com. Any constructive criticisms will be gladly accepted. Many thanks Chris Hi Chris, Nice looking layout - just a couple of issues (using Firefox 1.5.0.1 on OpenSUSE 10): 1. Drop down menus go behind the central image (the future of primary care computing) on the home page. Menus work on other pages. 2. The central image (the future of primary care computing) on the home page is about 80 pixels wider than the logo and nav bar areas. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Please Vote for your Favorite
On 06/04/12 01:55 (GMT-0400) Christian Montoya apparently typed: Liquid Designs reached 100 entries yesterday and I figured the best way to celebrate would be to let everyone decide the best design out of those 100. I had a team of 4 guest reviewers pick their favorites and they came up with 7 finalists. Please take a moment to vote for your favorite one. Voting will continue until midnight Saturday (EST). http://cssliquid.com/2006/news/100-gallery-entries-now-vote-for-the-best/ It's missing a none of the above selection. -- Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.Ephesians 5:11 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/auth ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] 404 Redirectationite
Patrick H. Lauke skrev: Joseph Bernhardt wrote: I run an apache server and utilize the .htaccess file to run a php script on a 404 error. This php script grabs the contents of the current uri to display information. (example: www.joughslife.com/Rockport.html) My question is, will this have any effect as far as usability? One question: why not use mod_rewrite instead? It's cleaner from a conceptual point of view, and won't send out an http status of 404. Using the error document functionality for this seems a bit of a perversion of its intended use... I thought this was the intended use of the ErrorDocument directive?! (what else could it be?) And sending a 404 for a page that doesn't exist is a good thing, in my view. I use mod_rewrite and Php for all handling of URIs, but send a 404 when a page is not found. You can send a normal web page with a 404 http status, just be careful to make the resulting HTML long enough, otherwise IE will display it's own error message instead. I can't remember the number of bytes right now ... /AndersN ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] 404 Redirectationite
Anders, Obviously you did not read the initial post :). That's alright. I am using a php script to display data depending on the current page. Example: www.joughslife.com/Rockport.html displays the page that is titled Rockport while www.joughslife.com/otherstuff.html would display the page titled otherstuff. So, these aren't supposed to be 404's. I was simply using this technique to display the pages. Anders Nawroth wrote: Lindsay Evans skrev: To stop the validator/robots/etc. seeing it as a 404 error, you need to send a 200 OK HTTP status code, you can do that in PHP using this line of code: header(HTTP/1.1 200 OK); Why would you want to see 404 pages in search results? If you need to validate the (X)HTML, you can upload it to the validator in this case. Shouldn't be any need to validate your error pages too often! /AndersN ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] 404 Redirectationite
OK, now I get it :-) /Anders Joseph Bernhardt skrev: Anders, Obviously you did not read the initial post :). That's alright. I am using a php script to display data depending on the current page. Example: www.joughslife.com/Rockport.html displays the page that is titled Rockport while www.joughslife.com/otherstuff.html would display the page titled otherstuff. So, these aren't supposed to be 404's. I was simply using this technique to display the pages. Anders Nawroth wrote: Lindsay Evans skrev: To stop the validator/robots/etc. seeing it as a 404 error, you need to send a 200 OK HTTP status code, you can do that in PHP using this line of code: header(HTTP/1.1 200 OK); Why would you want to see 404 pages in search results? If you need to validate the (X)HTML, you can upload it to the validator in this case. Shouldn't be any need to validate your error pages too often! /AndersN ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Please Vote for your Favorite
On 4/12/06, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/04/12 01:55 (GMT-0400) Christian Montoya apparently typed: Liquid Designs reached 100 entries yesterday and I figured the best way to celebrate would be to let everyone decide the best design out of those 100. I had a team of 4 guest reviewers pick their favorites and they came up with 7 finalists. Please take a moment to vote for your favorite one. Voting will continue until midnight Saturday (EST). http://cssliquid.com/2006/news/100-gallery-entries-now-vote-for-the-best/ It's missing a none of the above selection. No it's not. If you look at the top left of your screen, it should say Back. -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.com ... rdpdesign.com ... cssliquid.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Please Vote for your Favorite
Christian Montoya wrote: Hello listers, Liquid Designs reached 100 entries yesterday and I figured the best way to celebrate would be to let everyone decide the best design out of those 100. I had a team of 4 guest reviewers pick their favorites and they came up with 7 finalists. Please take a moment to vote for your favorite one. Voting will continue until midnight Saturday (EST). http://cssliquid.com/2006/news/100-gallery-entries-now-vote-for-the-best/ Hi Christian: is the voting really working right. When I clicked on the bottom-right one to view it, the radio button was also selected, even though i didn't necessarily mean to vote for it. and, in looking at the results the first site has far the most votes which made me wonder further if they got the vote by people starting down the list with the intent to look at all of them but voted instead. Neat idea! cheers Donna -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.com ... rdpdesign.com ... cssliquid.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Donna Jones Portland, Maine 207 772 0266 http://www.westendwebs.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Please Vote for your Favorite
Christian Montoya wrote: On 4/12/06, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/04/12 01:55 (GMT-0400) Christian Montoya apparently typed: Liquid Designs reached 100 entries yesterday and I figured the best way to celebrate would be to let everyone decide the best design out of those 100. I had a team of 4 guest reviewers pick their favorites and they came up with 7 finalists. Please take a moment to vote for your favorite one. Voting will continue until midnight Saturday (EST). http://cssliquid.com/2006/news/100-gallery-entries-now-vote-for-the-best/ It's missing a none of the above selection. No it's not. If you look at the top left of your screen, it should say Back. ;-) Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Please Vote for your Favorite
On 06/04/12 11:45 (GMT-0400) Christian Montoya apparently typed: On 4/12/06, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/04/12 01:55 (GMT-0400) Christian Montoya apparently typed: Please take a moment to vote http://cssliquid.com/2006/news/100-gallery-entries-now-vote-for-the-best/ It's missing a none of the above selection. No it's not. If you look at the top left of your screen, it should say Back. But you wrote please, and I did take the time to look at them all, 3 times each. -- Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.Ephesians 5:11 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/auth ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Please Vote for your Favorite
Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but isn't this off topic? ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Please Vote for your Favorite
On 4/12/06, Chris Littell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but isn't this off topic? I'm going to say this falls under Site reviews and critiques, which is one of the approved topics. -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.com ... rdpdesign.com ... cssliquid.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] help needed in validating webpage
Germ wrote: Again another thing that im not 100% sure on the strict DTD for XHTML1.0 doesnt allow javascript right??? so if u want javascript included u wuld use the loose DTD?? Am i right in saying this??? you need to add another meta tag to define what form of text you are using, if it is UTF-8 or 16, Unicode, etc. if it is utf-8 just add this inbetween the head/head meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 / ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
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Re: [WSG] Please Vote for your Favorite
On 4/13/06, Jack Pivac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 13/04/06 08:41 Christian Montoya said the following: On 4/12/06, Chris Littell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but isn't this off topic? I'm going to say this falls under Site reviews and critiques, which is one of the approved topics. Where does one find this list of approved topics thus to avoid myself from prosecution? In the footer of every single message sent via wsg@webstandardsgroup.org: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.com ... rdpdesign.com ... cssliquid.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] help needed in validating webpage
Shawn J. Cassick wrote: Germ wrote: Again another thing that im not 100% sure on the strict DTD for XHTML1.0 doesnt allow javascript right??? What? Of course it allows javascript. script type=text/javascript//![CDATA[ alert(Hello World!); //]]/script Note: Don't use !-- and //--, as is common for HTML 4 http://lachy.id.au/log/2005/05/script-comments you need to add another meta tag to define what form of text you are using, if it is UTF-8 or 16, Unicode, etc. if it is utf-8 just add this inbetween the head/head The character encoding is a completely separate issue and doesn't seem relevant to the question about JavaScript; but it is still important to get it right. meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 / No, that is wrong for XHTML. Do not use that meta element in XHTML at all, set proper HTTP headers to declare the encoding (even if you're serving it as text/html) http://lachy.id.au/log/2006/01/content-type -- Lachlan Hunt http://lachy.id.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Please Vote for your Favorite
On 06/04/12 01:55 (GMT-0400) Christian Montoya apparently typed: Liquid Designs reached 100 entries yesterday and I figured the best way to celebrate would be to let everyone decide the best design out of those 100. I had a team of 4 guest reviewers pick their favorites and they came up with 7 finalists. Please take a moment to vote for your favorite one. Voting will continue until midnight Saturday (EST). http://cssliquid.com/2006/news/100-gallery-entries-now-vote-for-the-best/ For any who might care, I've captured all those sites with 1280 wide resolution screenshots, with and without minimum font size set equal to my 20px default. Each of them links to each of the other 6 contextual setup pages and to all 14 screenshots. http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/Sites/sc-cssliquid-cheea.html will get you started. All except Watchmaker nicely tolerate the 20px minimum. What all except Jason show is the dominant text size on each is considerably smaller than Firefox's menu text. Firefox's menu text size here is 10pt, the same size KDE defaults to for all QT app and desktop menus, so the only thing special about it is that it's larger than the 8pt M$ default most web designers live most intimately with. Since _everything_ I've found with a claimed scientific basis either recommends an absolute minimum of 10pt, or finds that more ordinary web users prefer the most common OEM browser default of 12pt over other sizes, this means that among the finalists style trumps user preferences, and accessibility for sighted users is something less than optimal. My question is why is this so? Why is it that style cannot permit users by default text they are comfortable reading? Why is this a so nearly universal modern web standard? I'll provide bad answer #1: because space above the fold is precious. Please don't sidetrack on the issue of impropriety of pt for CSS text sizing. CSS text sizes need not be specified in pt for users to get the 12pt or any other size they prefer. -- Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.Ephesians 5:11 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/auth ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] colour contrast analyser version 1.1 - now available
The Web Accessibility Tools Consortium (WAT-C) and vision australia are proud to announce The colour contrast analyser version 1.1 Packed with new features: Choice of test algorithms (luminosity and colour/brightness) Input hex or RGB values RGB sliders to tweak colours on the fly and get results instantly. Simulation functions that allow application of colour blindness and other simulations to screen captures, existing images, and real time simulations via a draggable simulation window Button copy results to clipboard for insertion in documents. A huge thanks to Jun for all his work on this project and thanks to Gez Lemon, Sofia Celic, Andrew Arch and pixeldiva for their feedback during development. and a minor pat on the back to my humble self http://www.wat-c.org/tools/CCA/1.1/index.html with regards Steven Faulkner Web Accessibility Consultant vision australia - information library service 454 Glenferrie Road Kooyong Victoria 3144 Phone: (613) 9864 9281 Fax: (613) 9864 9210 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.accessibleinfo.org.au | www.wat-c.org Download the Web Accessibility Toolbar [http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/ais/toolbar/] Vision Australia was formed through the merger of the Royal Blind Society NSW, the Royal Victorian Institute for the Blind, Vision Australia Foundation and the National Information Library Service. ABN: 67 108 391 831 ACN: 108 391 831 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] A Puzzling slip-sideways effect in FireFox on REIA site
Hello everyone, The site listed below is a client site, we host it but did not develop it. The Client has noticed that in Firefox 1.5 when you click on a link in the menu at the top of the content then the pages does a sort-of page resize or slip-sideways for a moment and then comes good again. They have asked us to have a look as the original developers are long gone. A good example of the effect is the page shown in the link below: http://www.reia.com.au/media/updatearchive.asp If you click on the menu item for the same page, REIA Update Archives, you can see the table resize (shrink) itself as you click and then go back to normal as the page reloads. I am guessing that the styling for the active link is wrong in some way but it is not obvious so I am asking for help. I know that the site is table based and does not validate, in fact it is a horrible mess, but I cannot see any errors in that area that would cause this resizing effect. Anyone? Kym K ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
