[WSG] Unwanted gap in IE
Hi Guys. Simple problem and I'm sure there's a simple answer but I haven't the foggiest what it is.http://www.maxbulley.comIn IE, there is a space underneath the photograph (ugly); in FF, there isn't (nice). How to get rid?? Thanks in advanceAdam **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
Re: [WSG] search/replace source code
On 8/21/06, Stuart Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to make this javascript unobtrusive. The code below kind of works but it doesn't know where to write the breadcrumbs. You want to do document.getElementById('content').innerHTML = output + pageTitle to put them where you want them... but a more relevant question would be why do you want to create breadcrumbs using Javascript? IMO this navigational item should not rely on JS to be available - your code could easily be replicated server-side. Matthew. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Unwanted gap in IE
Try removing the line breaks and white space around the the img tag. There may be nicer, CSS-based solutions but this often fixes some of these obscure IE anomolies. Ben -- Ben Lobo Hobo Internet http://www.hobointernet.com On 8/21/06, Adam Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys. Simple problem and I'm sure there's a simple answer but I haven't the foggiest what it is. http://www.maxbulley.com In IE, there is a space underneath the photograph (ugly); in FF, there isn't (nice). How to get rid?? Thanks in advance Adam ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Unwanted gap in IE
img{ display: block;}also fixes the issue.On 8/21/06, srinivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Adam, Hopefully it should be fine now, if you can put the following lines in css #content img { padding:0px; margin:0px; vertical-align:bottom; } Regards, Srinivas Addagulla www.seenu.co.in On 8/21/06, Adam Morris wrote: Hi Guys. Simple problem and I'm sure there's a simple answer but I haven't the foggiest what it is.http://www.maxbulley.com In IE, there is a space underneath the photograph (ugly); in FF, there isn't (nice). How to get rid?? Thanks in advanceAdam **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
Re: [WSG] Unwanted gap in IE
Something to do with inline elements then and having to alter them to 'block'On 21/08/06, Robbie Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:img{ display: block;}also fixes the issue. On 8/21/06, srinivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Adam, Hopefully it should be fine now, if you can put the following lines in css #content img { padding:0px; margin:0px; vertical-align:bottom; } Regards, Srinivas Addagulla www.seenu.co.in On 8/21/06, Adam Morris wrote: Hi Guys. Simple problem and I'm sure there's a simple answer but I haven't the foggiest what it is.http://www.maxbulley.com In IE, there is a space underneath the photograph (ugly); in FF, there isn't (nice). How to get rid?? Thanks in advanceAdam **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
[WSG] Using CSS to emulate frames
Hi, I'm currently trying to get a few divs with some css to work like a frameset rows=*,100, a.k.a. a 100px bar at the bottom with [stuff] and a browser-size-sized area above it with [main content]. Simply placing the [stuff] at the bottom and setting [main content] size to 100% introduces some problems (overlapping of text w.o. scrollbars would be the major one) when the window isn't big enough to fit all the text, and setting them statically leads to a very inflexible site design. As it is right now, the divs are position:absolute, and they're (on my screen) filling about half of the browser window vertically, giving me a big white space beneath that I'd like to extend the [main content] div into, while having [stuff] at the bottom. A stripped version can be found at http://blah.towel.nu/ So, is there a way to emulate this dynamic frames-behaviour, or will I have to set it static? ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Unwanted gap in IE
On 21 Aug 2006, at 09:16, Adam Morris wrote: Something to do with inline elements then and having to alter them to 'block' On 21/08/06, Robbie Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: img{ display: block; } also fixes the issue. On 8/21/06, Adam Morris wrote: http://www.maxbulley.com In IE, there is a space underneath the photograph (ugly); in FF, there isn't (nice). How to get rid?? Exactly. When an image is inline (which is the default display property value for images), its vertical-align property has the default value of baseline, meaning, aligned with the baseline of the text it is assumed to be inline with. However, the descenders on letters like g and y need space below the baseline, hence the gap you were seeing. Setting the image's display property to block means that the browser no longer has to make allowance for the possibility of a lower-case g or similar appearing inline with it, and therefore it no longer leaves space for it. HTH, Nick. -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Unwanted gap in IE
that is really useful piece of information. srinivas On 8/21/06, Nick Fitzsimons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21 Aug 2006, at 09:16, Adam Morris wrote: Something to do with inline elements then and having to alter them to 'block' On 21/08/06, Robbie Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: img{ display: block; } also fixes the issue. On 8/21/06, Adam Morris wrote: http://www.maxbulley.com In IE, there is a space underneath the photograph (ugly); in FF, there isn't (nice). How to get rid??Exactly. When an image is inline (which is the default display property value for images), its vertical-align property has thedefault value of baseline, meaning, aligned with the baseline ofthe text it is assumed to be inline with. However, the descenders on letters like g and y need space below the baseline, hence the gapyou were seeing. Setting the image's display property to blockmeans that the browser no longer has to make allowance for the possibility of a lower-case g or similar appearing inline with it,and therefore it no longer leaves space for it.HTH,Nick.--Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/**The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
[WSG] paramter passing in HTML
Hi All, I need to know whether its possible to pass parameter from plain HTML to other plain HTML. May be in format of var=value in URL or anything else?? Regards, Nisha Kumari. **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
Re: [WSG] paramter passing in HTML
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 06:38:40PM +0530, nishak wrote: I need to know whether it's possible to pass parameter from plain HTML to other plain HTML. May be in format of var=value in URL or anything else?? No. HTML is just data, anything dynamic needs to be handled by a server side process or a client side script. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] paramter passing in HTML
- Messaggio originale - Da: nishak[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: 21/08/06 15.08.40 A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgwsg@webstandardsgroup.org Oggetto: [WSG] paramter passing in HTML Hi All, I need to know whether its possible to pass parameter from plain HTML to other plain HTML. May be in format of var=value in URL or anything else?? Roberto Scano: No with pure html I think something is possible to do with javascript... ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] paramter passing in HTML
As a simple answer no. Depending on what you want to do you can get access to passed parameters via _javascript_ (that can sit in / be linked from), a plain old HTML page, otherwise you have to look at programming on the server side. Richard. From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nishak Sent: 21 August 2006 14:09 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] paramter passing in HTML Hi All, I need to know whether its possible to pass parameter from plain HTML to other plain HTML. May be in format of var=value in URL or anything else?? Regards, Nisha Kumari. **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help** **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
[WSG] wierd refresh issue IE
Hi all I have a wierd problem with a website I helped build, www.visiblefictions.co.uk (past-productions-shopping for shoes). When viewed in IE the right-hand column is pushed below the left column for a few seconds before correcting itself!? This seems to be related to the cache and only happens on some machines. The css isn't the cleanest but if anyone has any suggestions or have come across this problem before your help would be greatly appreciated! . // sean.jones // designer tel: 0141.341.2893 mobile: 07818 431 301 fax: 0141.341.2802 biscuitmedia craighall.business.park 1.eagle.street glasgow g4.9xa biscuitmedia teams up with grp... http://www.biscuitmedia.com . _ Download the new Windows Live Toolbar, including Desktop search! http://toolbar.live.com/?mkt=en-gb ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] wierd refresh issue IE
works for me Sean Jones wrote: Hi all I have a wierd problem with a website I helped build, www.visiblefictions.co.uk (past-productions-shopping for shoes). When viewed in IE the right-hand column is pushed below the left column for a few seconds before correcting itself!? This seems to be related to the cache and only happens on some machines. The css isn't the cleanest but if anyone has any suggestions or have come across this problem before your help would be greatly appreciated! . // sean.jones // designer tel: 0141.341.2893 mobile: 07818 431 301 fax: 0141.341.2802 biscuitmedia craighall.business.park 1.eagle.street glasgow g4.9xa biscuitmedia teams up with grp... http://www.biscuitmedia.com . _ Download the new Windows Live Toolbar, including Desktop search! http://toolbar.live.com/?mkt=en-gb ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Navjot Pawera www.navjotpawera.com www.opera.com **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
[WSG] Site Check Please
Hello all, Can I please get a complete site check in Safari for the following URL: www.waterisetanks.com Cheers. -- Christian Fagan Fagan Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.fagandesign.com.au **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
Re: [WSG] Site Check Please
I got a server-not-found message... --- Christian Fagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Can I please get a complete site check in Safari for the following URL: www.waterisetanks.com http://www.waterisetanks.com Cheers. -- Christian Fagan Fagan Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.fagandesign.com.au ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ___ All new Yahoo! Mail The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use. - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] paramter passing in HTML
Can u tell me how I can use _javascript_ for this purpose??? -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Richard Conyard Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 6:47 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] paramter passing in HTML As a simple answer no. Depending on what you want to do you can get access to passed parameters via _javascript_ (that can sit in / be linked from), a plain old HTML page, otherwise you have to look at programming on the server side. Richard. From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nishak Sent: 21 August 2006 14:09 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] paramter passing in HTML Hi All, I need to know whether its possible to pass parameter from plain HTML to other plain HTML. May be in format of var=value in URL or anything else?? Regards, Nisha Kumari. **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help** **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help** **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
Re: [WSG] paramter passing in HTML
Can u tell me how I can use JavaScript for this purpose??? Can you (not u) please not? 1) You can use JavaScript to read out a parameter on the URL [1] 2) You also open your site to every possible cross server scripting attack out there [2] 3) You make sure the site only works for users that have JavaScript available, and that is simply a bad plan as you don't know your visitors [1] http://www.wsabstract.com/javatutors/send1.shtml [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_site_scripting ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] paramter passing in HTML
http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20040126/154773.html Maybe this will work. /AndersN nishak skrev: Can u tell me how I can use JavaScript for this purpose??? -Original Message- *From:* listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Richard Conyard *Sent:* Monday, August 21, 2006 6:47 PM *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Subject:* RE: [WSG] paramter passing in HTML As a simple answer no. Depending on what you want to do you can get access to passed parameters via JavaScript (that can sit in / be linked from), a plain old HTML page, otherwise you have to look at programming on the server side. Richard. *From:* listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *nishak *Sent:* 21 August 2006 14:09 *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Subject:* [WSG] paramter passing in HTML Hi All, I need to know whether it’s possible to pass parameter from plain HTML to other plain HTML. May be in format of var=value in URL or anything else?? Regards, Nisha Kumari. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Check Please
that's because I spelt it wrong www.waterwisetanks.com Matt Keehan wrote: I got a server-not-found message... --- Christian Fagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Can I please get a complete site check in Safari for the following URL: www.waterisetanks.com http://www.waterisetanks.com Cheers. -- Christian Fagan Fagan Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.fagandesign.com.au ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ___ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Christian Fagan Fagan Design 0432 220 579 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.fagandesign.com.au **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
[WSG] list elements
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_alternative Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Are list elements (ul, ol, li, etc.) block level or not? My HTML book is no help on this subject and I don't seem to be able to find the answer in the W3C specs for HTML 4.01. -- Marc Luzietti Flagship Project Bayview Financial, L.P. (305) 341-5624 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** --=_alternative Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii brfont size=2 face=sans-serifAre list elements (ul, ol, li, etc.) block level or not? My HTML book is no help on this subject and I don't seem to be able to find the answer in the W3C specs for HTML 4.01./font br br brfont size=2 face=sans-serif-- br Marc Luziettibr Flagship Projectbr Bayview Financial, L.P.br (305) 341-5624/font br /**br /The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/br /br / See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmbr / for some hints on posting to the list getting helpbr /** --=_alternative--
Re: [WSG] list elements
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RE: [WSG] list elements
Are list elements (ul, ol, li, etc.) block level or not? My HTML book is no help on this subject and I don't seem to be able to find the answer in the W3C specs for HTML 4.01. This should help: http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/block.html ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the sender of the e-mail. It is your responsibility to protect your system from viruses and any other harmful code or device. This e-mail message has been scanned for the presence of computer viruses; However LMUK accepts no liability for any which remain. We may monitor or access any or all e-mails sent to us. ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] list elements
The question (inside the noname attachment) was if list elements are block or inline elements and there is a great resource about that here: http://www.autisticcuckoo.net/archive.php?id=2005/01/11/block-vs-inline-1 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] list elements
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 11:13:09AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are list elements (ul, ol, li, etc.) block level or not? My HTML book is no help on this subject and I don't seem to be able to find the answer in the W3C specs for HTML 4.01. ul and ol elements are block level li are a special case (only containable by ul and ol), but close to block level then inline -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] list elements
On 21 Aug 2006, at 16:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are list elements (ul, ol, li, etc.) block level or not? My HTML book is no help on this subject and I don't seem to be able to find the answer in the W3C specs for HTML 4.01. Check the DTD: http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/sgml/dtd.html#block %block includes %list which includes OL and UL. Oddly enough, LI appears to be neither block nor inline... HTH, Nick. -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
I will be out of the office until Wednesday 23rd August 2006. I will be checking my email, but if you need me urgently please call me on my mobile, 0406 779656 or I will respond to your enquiry on my return. Kind Regards Alastair ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] New Version of Mozilla/Firefox Accessibility Extension Available
A new version of the Mozilla/Firefox Accessibility Extension is available with some new functions and a redesigned toolbar and menu layout. This release is close to what we expect for Version 1.0. So please download and check it out and give your feedback on features or bugs. Your comments make a big difference to our developer! http://firefox.cita.uiuc.edu/New Features in Version 0.99.1.2814 Menu and toolbar button reorganizationList of Objects and Hide Objects for inspection and disabling of objects (e.g. Flash and Java applications)Enabling Commands and Styling affect all pages makes any new extension changes instantly apply to all pages Fixed W3C Validator linkCorrected error reporting and updated the rules for the Title dialogUpdated the keyboard bindings and keyboard enhancements functionality (note that particular keyboard bindings will change again for 1.0)Disable ScriptingOpen frame in new window button in Frames dialogJon **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
Re: [WSG] Form playing havoc with nav (maybe)
Thanks for all the help and suggestions, guys! I've gone in and made the suggested changes to both the #nav and the table that the order form sits in. I've also revalidated everything - this is what happens when you create a valid site, think Woohoo it validates! and then forget to check that it continues to validate after every time the clients wants just one more change *sigh*. Anyway, it all looks good from this end but I never saw the problem on my own system in the first place. Can a few people just check back and tell me if I have managed to solve the problem?Cheers,Seona. **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
Re: [WSG] IE5.2/Mac... How sites deal with a dead browser
Nick Gleitzman wrote: Know of any other sites that have completely dropped CSS support for IE5.2/Mac and/or IE5.0/PC? Re IE5/Mac: see the thread from August 4, 'Re: [WSG] Support for IE5/Mac? (was Browser stats)'. Ah, hehe, sorry if I brought-up a convo that has been already started. Reading that thread now. I guess I am just a bit surprised to see more and more sites doing something to force their users to upgrade. I guess if I were an IE 5.2/Mac user, I would prefer this over seeing a broken layout. Anyway, reading that thread now... Thanks, Cheers, Micky ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE5.2/Mac... How sites deal with a dead browser
On 22 Aug 2006, at 1:28 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: Nick Gleitzman wrote: Know of any other sites that have completely dropped CSS support for IE5.2/Mac and/or IE5.0/PC? Re IE5/Mac: see the thread from August 4, 'Re: [WSG] Support for IE5/Mac? (was Browser stats)'. Ah, hehe, sorry if I brought-up a convo that has been already started. Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was criticising; that previous thread doesn't really answer your question anyway, but it does give you some options (and rationale) on how to go about it. Just thought you'd be interested. Reading that thread now. I guess I am just a bit surprised to see more and more sites doing something to force their users to upgrade. I guess if I were an IE 5.2/Mac user, I would prefer this over seeing a broken layout. Hmm... 'force' is too strong a word. We should never 'force' our visitors to do anything! But *inviting* them to upgrade by serving a plain text site - nothing wrong with that. Absolutely preferable to a broken layout, IMO. Oh - and a recent peruse of one of my sites' stats showed a (thankfully singular) visitor using ... wait for it ... Explorer 1.0. I guess there's no helping some people... N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Form playing havoc with nav (maybe)
Looks fine to me now. Regards, Kepler Gelotte Neighbor Webmaster, Inc. http://www.neighborwebmaster.com From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Seona Bellamy Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 8:46 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Form playing havoc with nav (maybe) Thanks for all the help and suggestions, guys! I've gone in and made the suggested changes to both the #nav and the table that the order form sits in. I've also revalidated everything - this is what happens when you create a valid site, think Woohoo it validates! and then forget to check that it continues to validate after every time the clients wants just one more change *sigh*. Anyway, it all looks good from this end but I never saw the problem on my own system in the first place. Can a few people just check back and tell me if I have managed to solve the problem? Cheers, Seona. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE5.2/Mac... How sites deal with a dead browser
Nick Gleitzman wrote: Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was criticising; that previous Oh, not at all... I did not mean to make it sound like you were. :D thread doesn't really answer your question anyway, but it does give you some options (and rationale) on how to go about it. Just thought you'd be interested. For sure. I saw it start a while back, but soon got lost due to all the subject changing and such... still tracking-back through it now. Hmm... 'force' is too strong a word. We should never 'force' our visitors to do anything! But *inviting* them to upgrade by serving a plain text site - nothing wrong with that. Absolutely preferable to a broken layout, IMO. Excellent point and I agree. :D I can't wait for browsers like IE5.0 and IE5.2 to die... I mean, they are pretty-much dead already, but not dead enough to make me not care. Oh - and a recent peruse of one of my sites' stats showed a (thankfully singular) visitor using ... wait for it ... Explorer 1.0. I guess there's no helping some people... LOL!!! It has to be a practical joke! Hmmm, actually, that would be interesting April fools day trick... spoof your browser stats - anyone know how to do this? I would love to surf the web and have folks thinking I was using IE 1.0! Lol, what a trip - 1.0... where do you even download that anymore? Can XP run it? Ok, I have had too much coffee. Time to take a break. :) Cheers, Micky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG Announce] New WSG Contact Details
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