[OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site

2008-11-18 Thread Michael Nemtsev
There is no issues if you restore you farm backup to single SharePoint 
instance. It will work fine. It's common scenario when you design you Disaster 
Recovery (DR) box, and you don't need farm there - only single instance. So you 
restore your backup there and set up SQL mirroring.

There is no OOTB way to backup content selectively and omit some files.
What you can try to do is to copy your content into new content DB and remove 
content of doc libraries there

Michael Nemtsev  | WSS MCTS, MS MVP
Readify
B: http://msmvps.com/blogs/laflour/ T: +61 424 184 978 E: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:40 AM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site

Hi Michael,

Sorry to pick up an old thread but I'm just getting ready to backup/restore our 
production environment to development in order to have a current version to 
work with.

Is the GUI-based Farm backup in Central Administration smart enough to 
recognise different farm topology, configurations, paths, domains, ports etc., 
and update them? Having not gone down this road before I'm finding the unknown 
more than a little frightening.

Also, does anyone know of a method to selectively backup content - i.e. 
_without_ the content in document libraries?

Regards,

Paul
Online Developer, ICT
CEO Sydney
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Nemtsev
Sent: Saturday, 11 October 2008 11:04 AM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site

What's the reason for this, why u need to copy the whole environment? Because 
usually you are doing it vice versa, from development to production

Just make a whole farm backup on production box and restore on your box via 
OOTB backup/restore

Michael Nemtsev  | WSS MCTS, MS MVP
Readify
B: http://msmvps.com/blogs/laflour/ T: +61 424 184 978 E: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Zheng
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 3:26 PM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] create SharePoint development same as production site

Hi All:

   Just want to find out what you guys do to copy the production site to the 
development machine, is backup/restore or import/export site or some other 
better way.

Cheers

Ken
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Re: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site

2008-11-18 Thread Ajay
I have been using backup/restore for deployment between different
environments and then I found this

*Be aware that backup/restore of MOSS content databases between server farms
are not fully supported! Official documentation of this support limitation
is currently in the works. The supported way to transfer content between
server farms is to use STSADM -o export/import or content deployment.
Backup/restore is only supported for the same server farm*
**
*
http://blogs.technet.com/stefan_gossner/archive/2008/03/12/common-error-situation-with-when-using-backup-restore-to-transfer-a-database-to-a-new-farm-on-moss-2007.aspx
*
**
*Though I haven't had the error in the above post so far and have deployed
about 15 web applications so far...*
**
**


On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Michael Nemtsev 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  There is no issues if you restore you farm backup to single SharePoint
 instance. It will work fine. It's common scenario when you design you
 Disaster Recovery (DR) box, and you don't need farm there – only single
 instance. So you restore your backup there and set up SQL mirroring.



 There is no OOTB way to backup content selectively and omit some files.
 What you can try to do is to copy your content into new content DB and
 remove content of doc libraries there



 *Michael Nemtsev  *|* *WSS MCTS, MS MVP
 Readify

 B: http://msmvps.com/blogs/laflour/ T: +61 424 184 978 E:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf
 Of *Paul Noone
 *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:40 AM

 *To:* listserver@ozMOSS.com
 *Subject:* [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production
 site



 Hi Michael,



 Sorry to pick up an old thread but I'm just getting ready to backup/restore
 our production environment to development in order to have a current version
 to work with.



 Is the GUI-based Farm backup in Central Administration smart enough to
 recognise different farm topology, configurations, paths, domains, ports
 etc., and update them? Having not gone down this road before I'm finding the
 unknown more than a little frightening.



 Also, does anyone know of a method to selectively backup content – i.e. _*
 without*_ the content in document libraries?



 Regards,

 Paul

 Online Developer, ICT
 CEO Sydney

 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf
 Of *Michael Nemtsev
 *Sent:* Saturday, 11 October 2008 11:04 AM
 *To:* listserver@ozMOSS.com
 *Subject:* [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production
 site



 What's the reason for this, why u need to copy the whole environment?
 Because usually you are doing it vice versa, from development to production



 Just make a whole farm backup on production box and restore on your box via
 OOTB backup/restore

 * *

 *Michael Nemtsev  *|* *WSS MCTS, MS MVP
 Readify

 B: http://msmvps.com/blogs/laflour/ T: +61 424 184 978 E:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf
 Of *Ken Zheng
 *Sent:* Friday, October 10, 2008 3:26 PM
 *To:* listserver@ozMOSS.com
 *Subject:* [OzMOSS] create SharePoint development same as production site



 Hi All:



Just want to find out what you guys do to copy the production site to
 the development machine, is backup/restore or import/export site or some
 other better way.



 Cheers



 Ken

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RE: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site

2008-11-18 Thread Michael Nemtsev
I never had issues which Stefan described.
I believe it will be fixed with the SP2

Michael Nemtsev  | WSS MCTS, MS MVP
Readify
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PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ajay
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:53 PM
To: listserver@ozmoss.com
Subject: Re: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site

I have been using backup/restore for deployment between different environments 
and then I found this

Be aware that backup/restore of MOSS content databases between server farms are 
not fully supported! Official documentation of this support limitation is 
currently in the works. The supported way to transfer content between server 
farms is to use STSADM -o export/import or content deployment. Backup/restore 
is only supported for the same server farm

http://blogs.technet.com/stefan_gossner/archive/2008/03/12/common-error-situation-with-when-using-backup-restore-to-transfer-a-database-to-a-new-farm-on-moss-2007.aspx

Though I haven't had the error in the above post so far and have deployed about 
15 web applications so far...




On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Michael Nemtsev [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

There is no issues if you restore you farm backup to single SharePoint 
instance. It will work fine. It's common scenario when you design you Disaster 
Recovery (DR) box, and you don't need farm there - only single instance. So you 
restore your backup there and set up SQL mirroring.



There is no OOTB way to backup content selectively and omit some files.
What you can try to do is to copy your content into new content DB and remove 
content of doc libraries there



Michael Nemtsev  | WSS MCTS, MS MVP
Readify

B: http://msmvps.com/blogs/laflour/ T: +61 424 184 978 E: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:40 AM

To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site



Hi Michael,



Sorry to pick up an old thread but I'm just getting ready to backup/restore our 
production environment to development in order to have a current version to 
work with.



Is the GUI-based Farm backup in Central Administration smart enough to 
recognise different farm topology, configurations, paths, domains, ports etc., 
and update them? Having not gone down this road before I'm finding the unknown 
more than a little frightening.



Also, does anyone know of a method to selectively backup content - i.e. 
_without_ the content in document libraries?



Regards,

Paul

Online Developer, ICT
CEO Sydney

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael Nemtsev
Sent: Saturday, 11 October 2008 11:04 AM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site



What's the reason for this, why u need to copy the whole environment? Because 
usually you are doing it vice versa, from development to production



Just make a whole farm backup on production box and restore on your box via 
OOTB backup/restore



Michael Nemtsev  | WSS MCTS, MS MVP
Readify

B: http://msmvps.com/blogs/laflour/ T: +61 424 184 978 E: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ken Zheng
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 3:26 PM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] create SharePoint development same as production site



Hi All:



   Just want to find out what you guys do to copy the production site to the 
development machine, is backup/restore or import/export site or some other 
better way.



Cheers



Ken

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[OzMOSS] Unable to access Page Settings

2008-11-18 Thread Aaron Cunnington
Hi guys,

 

Has anyone seen the issue of trying to access the Page settings of a
publishing page and getting Value does not fall within the expected range.
error

 

The logs show the following details about the page:

 

Console: Current page whose properties are being edited:
http://fred:11211/ourworkplaces/Centre/Pages/CentreLifts-anupdate.aspx 

11/18/2008 20:25:31.50 w3wp.exe (0x1450) 0x12B8  CMS
Publishing   89vkUnexpected
Current List Item is null for a published page with rawUrl
/ourworkplaces/Centre/_layouts/PageSettings.aspx?Source=%2Fourworkplaces%2FC
entre%2FPages%2FCentreLifts%2Danupdate%2EaspxCancelSource=%2Fourworkplaces%
2FCentre%2FPages%2FCentreLifts%2Danupdate%2EaspxPage=45 

11/18/2008 20:25:31.50 w3wp.exe (0x1450) 0x12B8  CMS
Publishing   7ob7Unexpected
SPContext.Current.ListItem is null for a published page with rawUrl
/ourworkplaces/Centre/_layouts/PageSettings.aspx?Source=%2Fourworkplaces%2FC
entre%2FPages%2FCentreLifts%2Danupdate%2EaspxCancelSource=%2Fourworkplaces%
2FCentre%2FPages%2FCentreLifts%2Danupdate%2EaspxPage=45 

11/18/2008 20:25:31.50 w3wp.exe (0x1450) 0x12B8  CMS
Publishing   8nh6Medium
PageSettingsPage.LoadValues: a exception is thrown when calling
PublishingPage.IsTemplatedPage, exception = {0}

 

I am then getting the following error when AvePoint is attempting to do a
backup:

 

11/18/2008 16:14:14 Path: http://fred:11211/ourworkplaces/Centre, Status:
Failed.

Error Message: Failed to backup the web.The reason is This constraint cannot
be enabled as not all values have corresponding parent values.

 

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

 

Just an additional note, this site colelction had recently been restored
into the dev environment from production. This issue is only happening in
Dev, but apparently only started about a week or so after the site was
restored from Prod to Dev.

 

Cheers

 

 

Aaron Cunnington

 

Level 2, Suite 207| 83 Kent Street | Sydney NSW | Australia 2000 

m: 0420 319 119 | w: 02 8275 8811 | f: 02 8275 8877

 

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RE: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site

2008-11-18 Thread Uzma Naz

My central administration backup feature was riddled with errors, with lots of 
incorrect content databases and paths. 
 
So I've done a clean install of SP2007 on a new server and selected which sites 
I wanted to transfer, as I was working on a dev environment anyway. 
I found that the tool used in SPDesigner 2007 was pretty handy for smaller 
sites which hardly had any customisation. I had a customer database which 
was being built but and the stsadm export tool worked like a charm. 
 
But now I have a working server and farm, I'll try out backing up and restoring 
a site using central administration and get back to you guys with what I 
have found
 
My only grovel with this process is that any customised list, data forms or 
views created are not replicated exactly on the production/migration site. I'll 
need to go through each site to make sure that the look and feel is a-ok. 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:14:05 
+1100Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production 
site



I never had issues which Stefan described.
I believe it will be fixed with the SP2
 
Michael Nemtsev  | WSS MCTS, MS MVPReadify 
B: http://msmvps.com/blogs/laflour/ T: +61 424 184 978 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AjaySent: 
Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:53 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [OzMOSS] RE: 
create SharePoint development same as production site
 

I have been using backup/restore for deployment between different environments 
and then I found this

 

Be aware that backup/restore of MOSS content databases between server farms are 
not fully supported! Official documentation of this support limitation is 
currently in the works. The supported way to transfer content between server 
farms is to use STSADM -o export/import or content deployment. Backup/restore 
is only supported for the same server farm

 

http://blogs.technet.com/stefan_gossner/archive/2008/03/12/common-error-situation-with-when-using-backup-restore-to-transfer-a-database-to-a-new-farm-on-moss-2007.aspx

 

Though I haven't had the error in the above post so far and have deployed about 
15 web applications so far...

 

 

 

 

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Michael Nemtsev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


There is no issues if you restore you farm backup to single SharePoint 
instance. It will work fine. It's common scenario when you design you Disaster 
Recovery (DR) box, and you don't need farm there – only single instance. So you 
restore your backup there and set up SQL mirroring.
 
There is no OOTB way to backup content selectively and omit some files.What you 
can try to do is to copy your content into new content DB and remove content of 
doc libraries there

 

Michael Nemtsev  | WSS MCTS, MS MVPReadify 
B: http://msmvps.com/blogs/laflour/ T: +61 424 184 978 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul NooneSent: 
Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:40 AM 


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as 
production site


 
Hi Michael,
 
Sorry to pick up an old thread but I'm just getting ready to backup/restore our 
production environment to development in order to have a current version to 
work with.
 
Is the GUI-based Farm backup in Central Administration smart enough to 
recognise different farm topology, configurations, paths, domains, ports etc., 
and update them? Having not gone down this road before I'm finding the unknown 
more than a little frightening.
 
Also, does anyone know of a method to selectively backup content – i.e. 
_without_ the content in document libraries?
 

Regards,Paul
Online Developer, ICTCEO Sydney


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael 
NemtsevSent: Saturday, 11 October 2008 11:04 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [OzMOSS] 
RE: create SharePoint development same as production site
 
What's the reason for this, why u need to copy the whole environment? Because 
usually you are doing it vice versa, from development to production
 
Just make a whole farm backup on production box and restore on your box via 
OOTB backup/restore

 
Michael Nemtsev  | WSS MCTS, MS MVPReadify 
B: http://msmvps.com/blogs/laflour/ T: +61 424 184 978 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken ZhengSent: 
Friday, October 10, 2008 3:26 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [OzMOSS] create 
SharePoint development same as production site
 
Hi All:
 
   Just want to find out what you guys do to copy the production site to the 
development machine, is backup/restore or import/export site or some other 
better way.
 
Cheers
 
Ken 
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RE: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site

2008-11-18 Thread Michael Nemtsev
You will find those errors during backup/restore. So, it will be clear if OOTB 
backup works or not.
I would not recommend using STSADM -o export/import till you have no problems 
with UI tools
There are no issues with export/import command, but it's very error-proned 
approach, and you should know how to do it correctly.

Michael Nemtsev  | WSS MCTS, MS MVP
Readify
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PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ajay
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:45 AM
To: listserver@ozmoss.com
Subject: Re: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site

My worry is that will deploying with backup/restore make it unsupported as 
Stefan post says.
I will be finishing with the client soon, don't want him to get problems with 
MS Support later in case anything happens


On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Michael Nemtsev [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I never had issues which Stefan described.

I believe it will be fixed with the SP2



Michael Nemtsev  | WSS MCTS, MS MVP
Readify

B: http://msmvps.com/blogs/laflour/ T: +61 424 184 978 E: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ajay
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:53 PM
To: listserver@ozmoss.commailto:listserver@ozmoss.com
Subject: Re: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site



I have been using backup/restore for deployment between different environments 
and then I found this



Be aware that backup/restore of MOSS content databases between server farms are 
not fully supported! Official documentation of this support limitation is 
currently in the works. The supported way to transfer content between server 
farms is to use STSADM -o export/import or content deployment. Backup/restore 
is only supported for the same server farm



http://blogs.technet.com/stefan_gossner/archive/2008/03/12/common-error-situation-with-when-using-backup-restore-to-transfer-a-database-to-a-new-farm-on-moss-2007.aspx



Though I haven't had the error in the above post so far and have deployed about 
15 web applications so far...









On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Michael Nemtsev [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

There is no issues if you restore you farm backup to single SharePoint 
instance. It will work fine. It's common scenario when you design you Disaster 
Recovery (DR) box, and you don't need farm there - only single instance. So you 
restore your backup there and set up SQL mirroring.



There is no OOTB way to backup content selectively and omit some files.
What you can try to do is to copy your content into new content DB and remove 
content of doc libraries there



Michael Nemtsev  | WSS MCTS, MS MVP
Readify

B: http://msmvps.com/blogs/laflour/ T: +61 424 184 978 E: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:40 AM

To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site



Hi Michael,



Sorry to pick up an old thread but I'm just getting ready to backup/restore our 
production environment to development in order to have a current version to 
work with.



Is the GUI-based Farm backup in Central Administration smart enough to 
recognise different farm topology, configurations, paths, domains, ports etc., 
and update them? Having not gone down this road before I'm finding the unknown 
more than a little frightening.



Also, does anyone know of a method to selectively backup content - i.e. 
_without_ the content in document libraries?



Regards,

Paul

Online Developer, ICT
CEO Sydney

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael Nemtsev
Sent: Saturday, 11 October 2008 11:04 AM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site



What's the reason for this, why u need to copy the whole environment? Because 
usually you are doing it vice versa, from development to production



Just make a whole farm backup on production box and restore on your box via 
OOTB backup/restore



Michael Nemtsev  | WSS MCTS, MS MVP
Readify

B: http://msmvps.com/blogs/laflour/ T: +61 424 184 978 E: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ken Zheng
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 3:26 PM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] create SharePoint development same as production site



Hi All:



   Just want to find out what you guys do to copy the production site to the 
development machine, is backup/restore or import/export 

RE: [OzMOSS] Unable to access Page Settings

2008-11-18 Thread Paul Noone
Hi Aaron,

That's an easy one. I get it all the time. :)

It happens when you restore WCM sites to another location. The Page Layout 
source URL is not updated to reflect the new location.

There are several painful options I tried before finally coming across this:

http://stsadm.blogspot.com/2007/08/fix-publishing-pages-page-layout-url.html

There's also a standalone script here:

http://blog.thekid.me.uk/archive/2007/08/20/fixing-page-layout-urls-after-importing-a-publishing-site-in-sharepoint.aspx

Either one should work well for you. Hopefully this bug will be fixed before 
too long. It's a right pain.

Regards,

Paul
Online Developer, ICT
CEO Sydney
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Cunnington
Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2008 9:41 PM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] Unable to access Page Settings

Hi guys,

Has anyone seen the issue of trying to access the Page settings of a publishing 
page and getting Value does not fall within the expected range. error

The logs show the following details about the page:

Console: Current page whose properties are being edited: 
http://fred:11211/ourworkplaces/Centre/Pages/CentreLifts-anupdate.aspx
11/18/2008 20:25:31.50 w3wp.exe (0x1450) 0x12B8  CMS
   Publishing   89vk
UnexpectedCurrent List Item is null for a published page 
with rawUrl 
/ourworkplaces/Centre/_layouts/PageSettings.aspx?Source=%2Fourworkplaces%2FCentre%2FPages%2FCentreLifts%2Danupdate%2EaspxCancelSource=%2Fourworkplaces%2FCentre%2FPages%2FCentreLifts%2Danupdate%2EaspxPage=45
11/18/2008 20:25:31.50 w3wp.exe (0x1450) 0x12B8  CMS
   Publishing   7ob7
UnexpectedSPContext.Current.ListItem is null for a 
published page with rawUrl 
/ourworkplaces/Centre/_layouts/PageSettings.aspx?Source=%2Fourworkplaces%2FCentre%2FPages%2FCentreLifts%2Danupdate%2EaspxCancelSource=%2Fourworkplaces%2FCentre%2FPages%2FCentreLifts%2Danupdate%2EaspxPage=45
11/18/2008 20:25:31.50 w3wp.exe (0x1450) 0x12B8  CMS
   Publishing   8nh6
Medium   PageSettingsPage.LoadValues: a exception is 
thrown when calling PublishingPage.IsTemplatedPage, exception = {0}

I am then getting the following error when AvePoint is attempting to do a 
backup:

11/18/2008 16:14:14 Path: http://fred:11211/ourworkplaces/Centre, Status: 
Failed.
Error Message: Failed to backup the web.The reason is This constraint cannot be 
enabled as not all values have corresponding parent values.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Just an additional note, this site colelction had recently been restored into 
the dev environment from production. This issue is only happening in Dev, but 
apparently only started about a week or so after the site was restored from 
Prod to Dev.

Cheers


Aaron Cunnington

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RE: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site

2008-11-18 Thread Paul Noone
Having now tried several tests through UI (and received only errors) and STSADM 
(and seen the hell that breaks loose afterwards) I've gone down Uzma's path of 
only backing up individual sites and restoring to dev as required for testing 
and development. Hardly ideal.

With publishing sites (and quite possibly WSS w/ publishing enabled) this still 
requires running custom STSADM commands and other fixes to correct page layout 
paths (break page settings), CQWP queries, hundreds of hard-coded links within 
web part fields or pages (because MOSS wouldn't allow a relative URL!) and 
more. And let's not forget about the lack of support for tasks and workflows.

I cannot get over the sheer amount of hard paths and absolute URLs that MOSS 
uses. That simple environment variables or tokens for {siteroot}, {site}, 
{_layout} etc., are not used simply amazes me.

It's insulting enough to pay this much for a product and then be left with a 
command line tool for all these operations, but to the have this many problems 
with something as simple as a backup and restore operation...

Why would it have be so hard to create a web-based GUI for theses (and other) 
essential daily tasks that allowed a bit more control over the various 
parameters and managed syntax while also providing a Test mode for the less 
brazen?

Thank God for the generous and talented souls out there who have filled this 
black hole of omissions with their own tools and scripts.

[Sorry, Ishai, if I beat you to today's rant. ;)]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Nemtsev
Sent: Wednesday, 19 November 2008 8:06 AM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site

You will find those errors during backup/restore. So, it will be clear if OOTB 
backup works or not.
I would not recommend using STSADM -o export/import till you have no problems 
with UI tools
There are no issues with export/import command, but it's very error-proned 
approach, and you should know how to do it correctly.

Michael Nemtsev  | WSS MCTS, MS MVP
Readify
B: http://msmvps.com/blogs/laflour/ T: +61 424 184 978 E: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ajay
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:45 AM
To: listserver@ozmoss.com
Subject: Re: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site

My worry is that will deploying with backup/restore make it unsupported as 
Stefan post says.
I will be finishing with the client soon, don't want him to get problems with 
MS Support later in case anything happens

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Michael Nemtsev [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I never had issues which Stefan described.

I believe it will be fixed with the SP2



Michael Nemtsev  | WSS MCTS, MS MVP
Readify

B: http://msmvps.com/blogs/laflour/ T: +61 424 184 978 E: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ajay
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:53 PM
To: listserver@ozmoss.commailto:listserver@ozmoss.com
Subject: Re: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site



I have been using backup/restore for deployment between different environments 
and then I found this



Be aware that backup/restore of MOSS content databases between server farms are 
not fully supported! Official documentation of this support limitation is 
currently in the works. The supported way to transfer content between server 
farms is to use STSADM -o export/import or content deployment. Backup/restore 
is only supported for the same server farm



http://blogs.technet.com/stefan_gossner/archive/2008/03/12/common-error-situation-with-when-using-backup-restore-to-transfer-a-database-to-a-new-farm-on-moss-2007.aspx



Though I haven't had the error in the above post so far and have deployed about 
15 web applications so far...









On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Michael Nemtsev [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

There is no issues if you restore you farm backup to single SharePoint 
instance. It will work fine. It's common scenario when you design you Disaster 
Recovery (DR) box, and you don't need farm there - only single instance. So you 
restore your backup there and set up SQL mirroring.



There is no OOTB way to backup content selectively and omit some files.
What you can try to do is to copy your content into new content DB and remove 
content of doc libraries there



Michael Nemtsev  | WSS MCTS, MS MVP
Readify

B: http://msmvps.com/blogs/laflour/ T: +61 424 184 978 E: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:40 AM

To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint 

RE: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site

2008-11-18 Thread Ishai Sagi
I didn't realize I had daily rants. Maybe my pills are finally making an impact!

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Wednesday, 19 November 2008 10:11 AM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site

Having now tried several tests through UI (and received only errors) and STSADM 
(and seen the hell that breaks loose afterwards) I've gone down Uzma's path of 
only backing up individual sites and restoring to dev as required for testing 
and development. Hardly ideal.

With publishing sites (and quite possibly WSS w/ publishing enabled) this still 
requires running custom STSADM commands and other fixes to correct page layout 
paths (break page settings), CQWP queries, hundreds of hard-coded links within 
web part fields or pages (because MOSS wouldn't allow a relative URL!) and 
more. And let's not forget about the lack of support for tasks and workflows.

I cannot get over the sheer amount of hard paths and absolute URLs that MOSS 
uses. That simple environment variables or tokens for {siteroot}, {site}, 
{_layout} etc., are not used simply amazes me.

It's insulting enough to pay this much for a product and then be left with a 
command line tool for all these operations, but to the have this many problems 
with something as simple as a backup and restore operation...

Why would it have be so hard to create a web-based GUI for theses (and other) 
essential daily tasks that allowed a bit more control over the various 
parameters and managed syntax while also providing a Test mode for the less 
brazen?

Thank God for the generous and talented souls out there who have filled this 
black hole of omissions with their own tools and scripts.

[Sorry, Ishai, if I beat you to today's rant. ;)]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Nemtsev
Sent: Wednesday, 19 November 2008 8:06 AM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site

You will find those errors during backup/restore. So, it will be clear if OOTB 
backup works or not.
I would not recommend using STSADM -o export/import till you have no problems 
with UI tools
There are no issues with export/import command, but it's very error-proned 
approach, and you should know how to do it correctly.

Michael Nemtsev  | WSS MCTS, MS MVP
Readify
B: http://msmvps.com/blogs/laflour/ T: +61 424 184 978 E: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ajay
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:45 AM
To: listserver@ozmoss.com
Subject: Re: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site

My worry is that will deploying with backup/restore make it unsupported as 
Stefan post says.
I will be finishing with the client soon, don't want him to get problems with 
MS Support later in case anything happens
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Michael Nemtsev [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I never had issues which Stefan described.

I believe it will be fixed with the SP2



Michael Nemtsev  | WSS MCTS, MS MVP
Readify

B: http://msmvps.com/blogs/laflour/ T: +61 424 184 978 E: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ajay
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:53 PM
To: listserver@ozmoss.commailto:listserver@ozmoss.com
Subject: Re: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site



I have been using backup/restore for deployment between different environments 
and then I found this



Be aware that backup/restore of MOSS content databases between server farms are 
not fully supported! Official documentation of this support limitation is 
currently in the works. The supported way to transfer content between server 
farms is to use STSADM -o export/import or content deployment. Backup/restore 
is only supported for the same server farm



http://blogs.technet.com/stefan_gossner/archive/2008/03/12/common-error-situation-with-when-using-backup-restore-to-transfer-a-database-to-a-new-farm-on-moss-2007.aspx



Though I haven't had the error in the above post so far and have deployed about 
15 web applications so far...









On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Michael Nemtsev [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

There is no issues if you restore you farm backup to single SharePoint 
instance. It will work fine. It's common scenario when you design you Disaster 
Recovery (DR) box, and you don't need farm there - only single instance. So you 
restore your backup there and set up SQL mirroring.



There is no OOTB way to backup content selectively and omit some files.
What you can try to do is to copy your content into new content DB and remove 
content of doc libraries there



Michael Nemtsev  | WSS MCTS, MS MVP
Readify

B: http://msmvps.com/blogs/laflour/ 

RE: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site

2008-11-18 Thread Daniel Brown
Ø  Having now tried several tests through UI (and received only errors) and
STSADM (and seen the hell that breaks loose afterwards) I’ve gone down
Uzma’s path of only backing up individual sites and restoring to dev as
required for testing and development. Hardly ideal

What Errors? Did you deploy the existing features to the new environment,
ensure all DLL’s are in the right spot/place, etc?

Ø  With publishing sites (and quite possibly WSS w/ publishing enabled) this
still requires running custom STSADM commands and other fixes to correct
page layout paths (break page settings), CQWP queries, hundreds of
hard-coded links within web part fields or pages (because MOSS wouldn’t
allow a relative URL!) and more. And let’s not forget about the lack of
support for tasks and workflows.

Sounds more like a issue of someone has  instead of using relative paths,
used hard paths, Hardly a fault of MOSS. Could you give an example of where
MOSS has a hardcoded URL? As I know that this is something they wish to
address in upcoming versions.

Ø  I cannot get over the sheer amount of hard paths and absolute URLs that
MOSS uses. That simple environment variables or tokens for {siteroot},
{site}, {_layout} etc., are not used simply amazes me.

~Site, ~SiteCollction, /_layouts (accessible from any path or folder in the
URL, i.e. ~Site/_layouts/page.aspx)

Ø  It’s insulting enough to pay this much for a product and then be left
with a command line tool for all these operations, but to the have this many
problems with something as simple as a backup and restore operation...

Backup  Restore is not as simple as just export and import, it relies on
DLL’s, features and solution dependencies. If a dependency is invalid or
missing, it will not restore (imo it makes sense).

Ø  Why would it have be so hard to create a web-based GUI for theses (and
other) essential daily tasks that allowed a bit more control over the
various parameters and managed syntax while also providing a “Test” mode for
the less brazen?

Central Admin under Backup/Restore? Or Item level backup/restore level with
DPM? Or even batch script with use of STSADM to run on a schedule.

STSADM could of been made to support item level backup/.restore, but the
amount of effort/overhead involved in this via a CLI is pretty large, Should
the UI have supported it? Yes It should have.

 

Happy to Help,

 

DB

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Paul Noone
Sent: Wednesday, 19 November 2008 9:41 AM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production
site

 

Having now tried several tests through UI (and received only errors) and
STSADM (and seen the hell that breaks loose afterwards) I’ve gone down
Uzma’s path of only backing up individual sites and restoring to dev as
required for testing and development. Hardly ideal.

 

With publishing sites (and quite possibly WSS w/ publishing enabled) this
still requires running custom STSADM commands and other fixes to correct
page layout paths (break page settings), CQWP queries, hundreds of
hard-coded links within web part fields or pages (because MOSS wouldn’t
allow a relative URL!) and more. And let’s not forget about the lack of
support for tasks and workflows.

 

I cannot get over the sheer amount of hard paths and absolute URLs that MOSS
uses. That simple environment variables or tokens for {siteroot}, {site},
{_layout} etc., are not used simply amazes me.

 

It’s insulting enough to pay this much for a product and then be left with a
command line tool for all these operations, but to the have this many
problems with something as simple as a backup and restore operation...

 

Why would it have be so hard to create a web-based GUI for theses (and
other) essential daily tasks that allowed a bit more control over the
various parameters and managed syntax while also providing a “Test” mode for
the less brazen?

 

Thank God for the generous and talented souls out there who have filled this
black hole of omissions with their own tools and scripts.

 

[Sorry, Ishai, if I beat you to today’s rant. ;)]

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Michael Nemtsev
Sent: Wednesday, 19 November 2008 8:06 AM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production
site

 

You will find those errors during backup/restore. So, it will be clear if
OOTB backup works or not.

I would not recommend using STSADM –o export/import till you have no
problems with UI tools

There are no issues with export/import command, but it’s very error-proned
approach, and you should know how to do it correctly.

 

Michael Nemtsev  | WSS MCTS, MS MVP
Readify 

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+61 424 184 978 E:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 

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Ajay
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:45 AM
To: 

RE: [OzMOSS] Unable to access Page Settings

2008-11-18 Thread Aaron Cunnington
Hi Paul,

 

You're a life saver! I had already tried the STSADM Custom Extensions but it
didn't seem to resolve the issue, however, after running up the FixLayouts
and stepping through it I managed to get that issue resolved.

 

Hopefully this will solve my backup issues which I believe this was causing,
time will tell, I may be posting for more help soon J

 

Cheers

 

Aaron

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Paul Noone
Sent: Wednesday, 19 November 2008 9:06 AM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] Unable to access Page Settings

 

Hi Aaron,

 

That's an easy one. I get it all the time. J

 

It happens when you restore WCM sites to another location. The Page Layout
source URL is not updated to reflect the new location.

 

There are several painful options I tried before finally coming across this:

 

http://stsadm.blogspot.com/2007/08/fix-publishing-pages-page-layout-url.html

 

There's also a standalone script here:

 

http://blog.thekid.me.uk/archive/2007/08/20/fixing-page-layout-urls-after-im
porting-a-publishing-site-in-sharepoint.aspx

 

Either one should work well for you. Hopefully this bug will be fixed before
too long. It's a right pain.

 

Regards,

Paul

Online Developer, ICT
CEO Sydney

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Aaron Cunnington
Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2008 9:41 PM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] Unable to access Page Settings

 

Hi guys,

 

Has anyone seen the issue of trying to access the Page settings of a
publishing page and getting Value does not fall within the expected range.
error

 

The logs show the following details about the page:

 

Console: Current page whose properties are being edited:
http://fred:11211/ourworkplaces/Centre/Pages/CentreLifts-anupdate.aspx 

11/18/2008 20:25:31.50 w3wp.exe (0x1450) 0x12B8  CMS
Publishing   89vkUnexpected
Current List Item is null for a published page with rawUrl
/ourworkplaces/Centre/_layouts/PageSettings.aspx?Source=%2Fourworkplaces%2FC
entre%2FPages%2FCentreLifts%2Danupdate%2EaspxCancelSource=%2Fourworkplaces%
2FCentre%2FPages%2FCentreLifts%2Danupdate%2EaspxPage=45 

11/18/2008 20:25:31.50 w3wp.exe (0x1450) 0x12B8  CMS
Publishing   7ob7Unexpected
SPContext.Current.ListItem is null for a published page with rawUrl
/ourworkplaces/Centre/_layouts/PageSettings.aspx?Source=%2Fourworkplaces%2FC
entre%2FPages%2FCentreLifts%2Danupdate%2EaspxCancelSource=%2Fourworkplaces%
2FCentre%2FPages%2FCentreLifts%2Danupdate%2EaspxPage=45 

11/18/2008 20:25:31.50 w3wp.exe (0x1450) 0x12B8  CMS
Publishing   8nh6Medium
PageSettingsPage.LoadValues: a exception is thrown when calling
PublishingPage.IsTemplatedPage, exception = {0}

 

I am then getting the following error when AvePoint is attempting to do a
backup:

 

11/18/2008 16:14:14 Path: http://fred:11211/ourworkplaces/Centre, Status:
Failed.

Error Message: Failed to backup the web.The reason is This constraint cannot
be enabled as not all values have corresponding parent values.

 

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

 

Just an additional note, this site colelction had recently been restored
into the dev environment from production. This issue is only happening in
Dev, but apparently only started about a week or so after the site was
restored from Prod to Dev.

 

Cheers

 

 

Aaron Cunnington

 

Level 2, Suite 207| 83 Kent Street | Sydney NSW | Australia 2000 

m: 0420 319 119 | w: 02 8275 8811 | f: 02 8275 8877

 

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RE: [SPAM] RE: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site

2008-11-18 Thread Paul Culmsee
Ages ago I read the blog of a former MS employee who was on the team that
did STSADM backup and restore stuff and he stated that the reason site level
backup/restore was not supported was that it was too buggy and the feature
was removed (because I used to use site level methods with the previous
version of SharePoint)

 

The problem is I have not since found the blog, nor the post. Does my
description sound familiar to anyone? Has anyone read the post I am
referring to?

 

(I read it easily a year ago)

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Daniel Brown
Sent: Wednesday, 19 November 2008 8:48 AM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [SPAM] RE: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as
production site

 

Ø  Why would it have be so hard to create a web-based GUI for theses (and
other) essential daily tasks that allowed a bit more control over the
various parameters and managed syntax while also providing a “Test” mode for
the less brazen?

Central Admin under Backup/Restore? Or Item level backup/restore level with
DPM? Or even batch script with use of STSADM to run on a schedule.

STSADM could of been made to support item level backup/.restore, but the
amount of effort/overhead involved in this via a CLI is pretty large, Should
the UI have supported it? Yes It should have.

 

Happy to Help,

 

DB




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RE: [OzMOSS] RE: create SharePoint development same as production site

2008-11-18 Thread Paul Noone
Hi Daniel,

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I've responded inline but think I need 
to stress here that these are not just my problems. Neither are the problems 
limited to what's discussed here. This is, after all, just one small facet of 
administration. Everywhere you look on the web people are complaining about 
these and other issues, as is evidenced by the arrival of so many third party 
apps and tools to fill the void.

Ø  Having now tried several tests through UI (and received only errors) and 
STSADM (and seen the hell that breaks loose afterwards) I've gone down Uzma's 
path of only backing up individual sites and restoring to dev as required for 
testing and development. Hardly ideal

What Errors? Did you deploy the existing features to the new environment, 
ensure all DLL's are in the right spot/place, etc?

Trying to perform a simple backup on a single web app I get the following:

The backup/restore job failed. In order to rerun the backup/restore the timer 
job must be deleted from the Timer Job Definitions page. Failure Message: The 
backup job failed. For more information, see the error log that is located in 
the backup directory.

The essential log info follows. Just to confirm I am logged into the server and 
CA as the SharePoint Setup account and am only trying to backup our primary web 
app, not SSO or anything else. Looks like this account doesn't have sufficient 
access but do you think any of our sys admins can tell what account does? 
Unfortunately they're even more clueless as to the inner machinations of MOSS 
than I am.

[11/19/2008 2:58:17 PM]: Error: Object SingleSignOn_DB failed in event 
OnPrepareBackup. For more information, see the error log located in the backup 
directory.
  SqlException: Cannot open database SingleSignOn_DB requested by the 
login. The login failed.
Login failed for user 'SYD-CENET\sharepoint.setup'.

[19/11/2008 2:58:18 PM]: Error: Object 
WSS_Content_intranet.ceosyd.catholic.edu.au failed in event OnBackup. For more 
information, see the error log located in the backup directory.
  SqlException: Cannot open backup device 
'C:\ProdBackups\spbr\0015.bak'. Operating system error 3(error not 
found).
BACKUP DATABASE is terminating abnormally.

[11/19/2008 2:58:18 PM]: Completed with 2 errors.

[11/19/2008 2:58:18 PM]: Error: Backup failed for Object 
WSS_Content_intranet.ceosyd.catholic.edu.au failed in event OnBackup. For more 
information, see the error log located in the backup directory.

I'd do a sitecollection backup but it's too large for that as I can't exclude 
the doc library content. (My main gripe.) Being unable to change the regional 
settings in CA in a supported way is another. I mean did someone just forget to 
include the link to regionalsetng.aspx? :)

Ø  With publishing sites (and quite possibly WSS w/ publishing enabled) this 
still requires running custom STSADM commands and other fixes to correct page 
layout paths (break page settings), CQWP queries, hundreds of hard-coded links 
within web part fields or pages (because MOSS wouldn't allow a relative URL!) 
and more. And let's not forget about the lack of support for tasks and 
workflows.

Sounds more like a issue of someone has  instead of using relative paths, used 
hard paths, Hardly a fault of MOSS. Could you give an example of where MOSS has 
a hardcoded URL? As I know that this is something they wish to address in 
upcoming versions.

For layout pages these paths are not set by an end-user. We're talking about 
internal paths to content in the master page gallery set by SharePoint. This 
will actually prevent editing Page Settings for any page in the collection.

As for other paths, I'm referring to a number of fields (e.g. Send To...) which 
do not allow a relative path. Of all the fields in SharePoint to have 
validation applied, they go and stick it the ones that don't require it. I'm 
also referring to breakages within the Content Query Web Part (and others based 
on it) that require reconfiguring, especially if they've been in any way 
customised.

There are also others that escape me now.

Ø  I cannot get over the sheer amount of hard paths and absolute URLs that MOSS 
uses. That simple environment variables or tokens for {siteroot}, {site}, 
{_layout} etc., are not used simply amazes me.

~Site, ~SiteCollction, /_layouts (accessible from any path or folder in the 
URL, i.e. ~Site/_layouts/page.aspx)

As per a number of recent posts on this it's been established that none of 
these can be used, neither in any of the locations mentioned above, nor in any 
useful way within a layout page. A choice example follows:

a 
href=~sitecollection/SiteDirectory/SitesList/NewForm.aspx?Source=~sitecollection%2FSiteDirectory%2FPages%2Fcategory%2EaspxAdd
 Site/a

Ø  It's insulting enough to pay this much for a product and then be left with a 
command line tool for all these operations, but to the have this many problems 
with something as simple as a backup and 

[OzMOSS] Enable advanced usage analysis processing then 403 Forbidden

2008-11-18 Thread Marten Ataalla
Devs,

In SSP Settings, under *Configure Advanced Usage Analysis Processing*, when
I check the box Enable advanced usage analysis processing then click *OK*,
I get a 403 forbidden error *You are not authorized to view this page*

I am trying to do this because a site collection admin cannot view the Site
Usage Reports, it says *Both Windows SharePoint Services Usage logging and
Office SharePoint Usage Processing must be enabled to view usage reports.
Please contact your administrator to ensure that these services are
enabled.*

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Marten



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RE: [OzMOSS] Enable advanced usage analysis processing then 403 Forbidden

2008-11-18 Thread Michael Nemtsev
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Michael Nemtsev  | WSS MCTS, MS MVP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marten Ataalla
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:46 PM
To: listserver@ozmoss.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] Enable advanced usage analysis processing then 403 Forbidden

Devs,

In SSP Settings, under Configure Advanced Usage Analysis Processing, when I 
check the box Enable advanced usage analysis processing then click OK, I get 
a 403 forbidden error You are not authorized to view this page

I am trying to do this because a site collection admin cannot view the Site 
Usage Reports, it says Both Windows SharePoint Services Usage logging and 
Office SharePoint Usage Processing must be enabled to view usage reports. 
Please contact your administrator to ensure that these services are enabled.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Marten
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