Re: I'm looking for a job!
On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 10:28:37AM -, Leo Lapworth wrote: If you know of any decent jobs please could you give me a yell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), and if anyone is interested my CV, with phone number, can be found at: Guessing you're among the people who aren't interested in relocating? We've a fairly senior Perl position opening at the minute if anyone *is* interested in relocating. I'm sure Greg can enthuse better than us about how great N. Ireland actually is to live :) Tony -- - Tony Bowden | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.blackstar.co.uk/ Black Star |The UK's Biggest Video DVD store * Free Postage Worldwide -
Re: Perl Geek Code
PLPM++I answer questions (correctly) on #london.pm But aren't most of the questions on #london.pm of the form "shall we go down the pub then?", to which there is a simple answer that's almost always correct... I toyed with the idea of taking this out, but I wanted it to be the same as for PP, so that someone who is PP+++ is basically the same as someone who is HLPM++ or suchlike... Later. Mark. -- print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} ( Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer' , Firm = 'Profero Ltd',Web = 'http://www.profero.com/' , Email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Phone = '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' )
Re: new years eve
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 12:36:15AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: i can run a 1984 style campaign but it wouldn't be paranoia rules or even the paranoia setting Sounds fun. What rules would it be? Or is that information not available at my security clearance? if this is ok, how about 11/1/2001, my place The 11th is good for me (you sure you don't mean Friday the 12th) however no alchohol allowed if its here ;-) Eek! -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david The voices said it's a good day to clean my weapons.
Re: Fwd: SPUG: ActivePerl 623
Greg McCarroll wrote: next youll be saying top gun is considered bad I do hope you're not being sarcastic. or are being sarcastic. Or ... errm, whatever. Top Gun is a top film (no pun intended) and Quentin Tarantino is a jumped up little pissant wannabe with 'I wanna be a cool gang-sta but I'm actually a white geek with bad hair who can't act' issues. And all the quotes from his monologue[0] which claim that TG is actually one huge homoerotic fantasy are wrong which just goes to show how bullshit it all is. Simon [just call me Mav 'cos my parents didn't/don't like me either] [0] From the film 'Sleep with Me' where QT plays Sid http://www.godamongdirectors.com/scripts/sleep.shtml for a transcript. For example 'They're all hugging and kissing and happy with each other, and Ice comes up to Maverick, and he says, "Man, you can ride my tail, anytime!" And what does Maverick say? "You can ride mine!"' They *never* say that. As any phul3 kn0 they say 'You can be my _wingman_ anytime' Sigh.
Re: new years eve
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 12:36:15AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: [...] no alchohol allowed if its here ;-) Heh, I'm just severely cutting back for the New Year. "One a day on average" I told myself. I'm already on Friday... shit i just had a good idea for thursday night, i wonder how many cans of redbull i can drink in one night? Oh, it's fairly easy to just /drink/ six to eight fairly quickly, but your night will be rather long... I got through about half a gallon of vodka Red Bulls on the New Year boozing session, and I finally got some sleep about 6am (and woke a couple of hours later.)
Re: Fwd: SPUG: ActivePerl 623
On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Simon Wistow wrote: Simon [who *lives* fro the 12 minute freebie of the Adult Channel at midnight] Ah - Myself and a housemate once lived the 'free porn' episode of friends - when we flicked thru he chennels and there was porn at 1am, I think we got bored about 1:30am and from there flicked channels until we got sucked into a painfully bad movie (apalling script, apalling dialogue) it was truly awful (imagine red shoe diaries but much longer and without the production script or acting quality)... we a re both suckers for a bad film we keep on telling ourselves it could be realy good any minute now that really banal script will turn into a beautifully crafted dialogue of wildesque prose but usually we are bitterly disapointed. Beast of war was a pleasent surprise though. A. obPMRef: buffy -- A HREF = "http://termisoc.org/~betty" Betty @ termisoc.org /A "As a youngster Fred fought sea battles on the village pond using a complex system of signals he devised that was later adopted by the Royal Navy. " (this email has nothing to do with any organisation except me)
Re: Fwd: SPUG: ActivePerl 623
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 10:38:14AM +, Simon Wistow wrote: Peter Corlett wrote: I didn't mean /that/ kind of "special" film... Just certain feel-good and insightful films. Are you saying that Hard Core porn isn't feel good and insightful? Feel's good for me Well, it can give instant gratification, I guess, which can feel good, but tends to leave one hollow later. Then again, I'm not a sex fiend like most people I seem to meet. For example, I have only just got round to checking out one of the DVDs I brought back from Amsterdam a couple of months ago because bringing pr0n back is one of those things one is apparently supposed to do... [It's probably worth noting that the films are BBFC classified and also available from Blackstar at £25 each, except that they were NLG 150 the pair.] [who *lives* fro the 12 minute freebie of the Adult Channel at midnight] When I was in student digs, I had a satellite dish pointed at Hot Bird and a "special" card for Eurotica, so I had five hours of pr0n every evening. It didn't do a thing for me, but the recordings paid my rent for six months ;)
Re: Getting keys of mappe @list = qw/foo bar foo baz/;d hash?
Tony Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, my brain has fried. How can I do this: my @list = qw/foo bar foo baz/; my %hash = map { $_ = 1 } @men; my @sort = sort keys %hash; print "We have @sort\n"; # foo bar baz without the %hash? i.e. something akin to: my @sort = sort keys map { $_ = 1 } @list; I've tried so many variations that my brain is refusing to tell me the correct answer. my $last; do {print $_ unless $_ eq $last; $last = $_} for sort @list Dunno if it's quicker than the cunning tricks with map, but hey, it works. -- Piers
Re: Fwd: SPUG: ActivePerl 623
* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: check beano's in croydon, they can be quite good - also skoob do some rare tapes (in sicillian ave, next to pc bookshop) Wow, Beano's still there ? Its been there since I was a kid. good place as well, one of the many delights of Croydon Did you know Terry and June was set in Croydon? see you don't have to go to the comedy store for good comedy! nope croydon does just as well - also i think davidson sometimes does his panto at the fairfield i'd need to check, does anyone know? anyone? anyone? dean? ;-) [1] Greg [1] sorry dean, i couldnt resist -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
irc again
erm.. whats the irc channel for london.pm again. I spose I'll have to download bitchx as well now. A. -- A HREF = "http://termisoc.org/~betty" Betty @ termisoc.org /A "As a youngster Fred fought sea battles on the village pond using a complex system of signals he devised that was later adopted by the Royal Navy. " (this email has nothing to do with any organisation except me)
Re: irc again
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:49:58AM +, Aaron Trevena wrote: erm.. whats the irc channel for london.pm again. I spose I'll have to download bitchx as well now. irc.rhizomatic.net #london.pm Michael
Re: Fwd: SPUG: ActivePerl 623
* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greg McCarroll wrote: next youll be saying top gun is considered bad Top Gun is a top film (no pun intended) and Quentin Tarantino is a jumped up little pissant wannabe with 'I wanna be a cool gang-sta but I'm actually a white geek with bad hair who can't act' issues. i agree, its a class film, and i wasnt being sarcastic in any way at all i was watching it with a dutch friend recently (4am) and we were really really drunk, i mean like a whole different league on from the worst london.pm meeting - do you remember the guys Gellyfish got slaughtered at YAPC::Europe? well they looked sober to us, anyway the point is i seem to remember calling his ex-girlfriend on his nokia communicator in loud speaker mode and singing the song down it as loudly as possible then doing the same 10 minutes later after he had tried to teach me the words in dutch then at the power guitar bit at the end singing that down the phone it was about then his flatmate came through to complaign And all the quotes from his monologue[0] which claim that TG is actually one huge homoerotic fantasy are wrong which just goes to show how bullshit it all is. unlike ``Top C*ck'' the 1992 american soft pr0n film, where young men from around the world come together to compete at the Top Stud academy training to be the finest studs in the world. Just before the completion of their training my the hot blonde bombshell Nelly McMuffins they are alerted of an arab warlords harem is on the radar and are flew out to use their new knowledge. - err actually i just made this up - err, making that sort of thing up is probably worse that watching it i'll get my coat ... -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: irc again
* Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:49:58AM +, Aaron Trevena wrote: erm.. whats the irc channel for london.pm again. I spose I'll have to download bitchx as well now. irc.rhizomatic.net #london.pm london.rhizomatic.net -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: irc again
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 12:56:38PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:49:58AM +, Aaron Trevena wrote: erm.. whats the irc channel for london.pm again. I spose I'll have to download bitchx as well now. irc.rhizomatic.net #london.pm london.rhizomatic.net I prefer irc. YMMV.
Re: Getting keys of mappe @list = qw/foo bar foo baz/;d hash?
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:16:06AM +, Piers Cawley wrote: How can I do this: my @list = qw/foo bar foo baz/; my %hash = map { $_ = 1 } @men; my @sort = sort keys %hash; print "We have @sort\n"; # foo bar baz without the %hash? my $last; do {print $_ unless $_ eq $last; $last = $_} for sort @list Dunno if it's quicker than the cunning tricks with map, but hey, it works. Ah, but my question was badly phrased. I needed to end up with @sort, not a printed list ... The result of this was heading towards another couple of maps ;) I had found the solution long before this turned up though (stupidly forgot to update my .muttrc for the new list address, so I had to go through moderation again ...) - just a matter of doubling those curly brackets (no need for all those +s etc...) Thanks, Tony -- - Tony Bowden | Belfast, NI | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.tmtm.com | www.blackstar.co.uk you move in waves like the midnight blues you vector of this weird dis-ease -
Re: irc again
* Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 12:56:38PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:49:58AM +, Aaron Trevena wrote: erm.. whats the irc channel for london.pm again. I spose I'll have to download bitchx as well now. irc.rhizomatic.net #london.pm london.rhizomatic.net I prefer irc. YMMV. there is clearly some form of uncleaness in your life ;-) -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: [OT] Perl Agents
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 02:14:15PM -, Dean S Wilson wrote: PS Is Blackstar looking for Junior coders? Never been to Ireland ;) 'fraid not ... We're looking for someone (or possibly sometwo, but probably only someone), for a very senior position - in the 35k+ range. (That's an NI salary - not sure what the equivalent London salary would be). i.e. someone more senior than our current seniors, who would be responsible for working on deep core stuff, as well as training/reviewing the current senior and junior programmers... Tony -- - Tony Bowden | Belfast, NI | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.tmtm.com | www.blackstar.co.uk far above the spray-struck stone we climb toward the melting point of time -
Re: [OT] Perl Agents
* Tony Bowden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 02:14:15PM -, Dean S Wilson wrote: PS Is Blackstar looking for Junior coders? Never been to Ireland ;) 'fraid not ... We're looking for someone (or possibly sometwo, but probably only someone), for a very senior position - in the 35k+ range. (That's an NI salary - not sure what the equivalent London salary would be). the equivalent for London would be (works out the house prices, COL etc) 50~55K, imho -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Fwd: SPUG: ActivePerl 623
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 12:53:32PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: unlike ``Top C*ck'' the 1992 american soft pr0n film, where young men from around the world come together to compete at the Top Stud academy training to be the finest studs in the world. Just before the completion of their training my the hot blonde bombshell Nelly McMuffins they are alerted of an arab warlords harem is on the radar and are flew out to use their new knowledge. - err actually i just made this up - err, making that sort of thing up is probably worse that watching it I imagine that that would be the best storyline for a pr0n film in years. I'm under the impression that there hasn't been such a film worth watching for the film (they used to actually make them as actual *films*, you see...) since the wonderfully titled Wanda Whips Wall Street. dha, who probably knows more about this than he should... -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ "You can't give a 4 to truth." - Saul Williams
Re: Apache Mods in use
On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Dean S Wilson wrote: Mod_Perl is third on the list, beaten by FrontPage! Oh the shame ;) http://www.securityspace.com/s_survey/data/man.200012/apachemods.html I agree with Eric Eisenhart's comments on use.perl.org (http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=01/01/01/2044233mode=flat) To quote: I think there's one very significant contributing factor: you don't have to install a module to use Perl and installing a module is the easiest way to use PHP. IOW: if you just want to allow people to use Perl and PHP, you only install mod_php, not mod_perl. Once you've reached a point where performance of Perl programs is an issue (or you want to do something more interesting than a CGI) mod_perl is likely to get installed. Later. Mark. P.S. Magnus, why don't you people do this kind of stuff? -- print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} ( Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer' , Firm = 'Profero Ltd',Web = 'http://www.profero.com/' , Email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Phone = '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' )
JOB: At A Very Well-Known Company
I posted something like this a couple of weeks ago, but Adam tells me that they're looking for another person with a similar skillset. If you're interested, contact Adam, not me. Cheers, Dave... - Forwarded message from Adam Bassett [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Adam Bassett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Perl-mongers listing. Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:37:40 - Hi Dave, Thanks for agreeing to place the job role through the Perl Mongers web site. As before the job details are below, I would appreciate is if you could please keep the client confidential at this stage. If you know anybody personally who you may feel would like to know more about the job then please put them in touch with me. Thanks for your help, hopefully we'll grab lunch in a couple of weeks if that's okay? Best regards Adam The skills are required for someone to look after the live data feeds: Strong Perl (including DBI). Strong UNIX. Reasonable SQL, with a knowledge of Oracle (or similar DBMS). Must know basics of HTML and XML. Must understand CGI and have a good/ general web knowledge. Knowledge of C would be good for the THM migration. Java/JavaScript, etc skills are not necessary for feed work, although the basics should be understood by any candidate. Adam Bassett Technical Consultant Maxim Group A Division of Aerotek Europe Information Technology Consultants Therese House 29-30 Glass House Yard London, EC1A 4JN Tel: +44(0) 20 7608 8308 Fax: +44(0) 20 7608 8301 http://www.aerotek.com http://www.maximgroup.com - End forwarded message - -- http://www.dave.org.uk | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] plugData Munging with Perl http://www.manning.com/cross//plug
tommorow nights meeting
i have a pile of freebies left over from the conference (YAPC::Europe) that i can give away tommorow night i've reduced the lot to the good stuff, which includes, lots of BSD devil horns (bring digital camera's tommorow night!), some freebsd cd's, lots of Perl5 pocket references (courtesy of those lovely people at ORA, providers of high quality technical books), some designer YAPC bags and a two spare t-shirts (but i think at least one of the t-shirts has mr wistow's name on it (if the other person who is owed a t-shirt shouts out before tommorow nights meeting i'll reserve it for them) also i started laying out the few mp3's i have and some of the schedule of the conference into a website tonight, so expect movement on that front rsn, greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Getting keys of mapped hash?
On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, Peter Corlett wrote: On Sat, Dec 30, 2000 at 06:35:18PM +, Tony Bowden wrote: i.e. something akin to: my @sort = sort keys map { $_ = 1 } @list; I'm thinking that this might work: my @sort=sort keys %{ +{ map { $_ = undef } @list } }; Maybe I'm missing something here, but how is this different to my @sort = sort @list; ? S. -- Shevek I am the Borg. sub AUTOLOAD { ($s=$AUTOLOAD)=~s/.*:://; eval qq{ *$AUTOLOAD=$s ?sub {$s*{$s-1}} :sub {1}; }; goto $AUTOLOAD; } print {'4'};
Re: Getting keys of mapped hash?
On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Shevek wrote: my @sort=sort keys %{ +{ map { $_ = undef } @list } }; Maybe I'm missing something here, but how is this different to my @sort = sort @list; values in @sort are unique?