Re: Video Tips
* Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [1]philips 2000 format, years ahead of its time, turn the tapes over like an audio cassette, 8 hours per tape, perfect picture in still frame (due to video head mounted on a piezo slab) earlies 80's tecnology!.. ahhh .. and we got spit vhs instead .. ho hum. don't look at bad technology that becomes the de facto choice as bad technology, look at it as a catalyst to the next generation of technology Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: TPC5
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 12:28:03PM -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote: I want tutorial, paper, and talk proposals. Tutorials are a half- or full-day. Papers are 25 minutes long, and intended to be high-quality and academicish. Talks can be more informal and are either 25, 40, or 90 minutes in length. Yay. Piers and I sent a presentation proposal last week. dj
Re: Technical Meeting Venues
Mark Fowler wrote: [2] Bath.pm roots showing. We used to discuss a fair amount of technical (but not necessary perl related) stuff. From this, I quickly progressed into the well rounded perl programmer I am today Is that "well rounded perl programmer" in the sense that "grep is well rounded"? g,drvvf Cheers, Philip
template toolkit .. one more kwestion
OK .. this ones driving me dippy .. I'm playing with Template::Toolkit with a bit of MySQL and the usual things ... so I wrote a few functions that retreive lists of err stuff. for speed i use dbi's fetchall_arrayref which returns a reference to an array of references to arrays ...uh huh I dereference it and pass the resulting array back out to my template for use in a [% FOREACH item = getItemList(category) %] because the array is full of references to arrays I then access each itemid as [% item.0 %] this works fine if the function returns a list with more than one thing in it .. if there is only one thing in the array I get a 'dont know how to access [ 3 ].0 if for example item 3 is returned. if I access the result as just plain [% item %] it works fine if there is one item in the list .. and returns lots of ARRAY0x1241234 if there is more than one ... its almost as if someone has infected it with a variant of sub::approx and its making some wild guesses about what its supposed to be doing and guessing different things in different situations .. either way its driving me dippy. any ideas on how to tell the thing to stop trying to second guess what I want or guess right each time? -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
Re: template toolkit .. one more kwestion
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: this works fine if the function returns a list with more than one thing in it .. if there is only one thing in the array I get a 'dont know how to access [ 3 ].0 if for example item 3 is returned. if I access the result as just plain [% item %] it works fine if there is one item in the list .. and returns lots of ARRAY0x1241234 if there is more than one ... Sounds like your dereferencing function may be returning a SCALAR instead of an ARRAY when there's only one result? -- rob partington % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://lynx.browser.org/
Re: Video Tips
Dave Cross wrote: Here's a top tip. Don't try to video two hours of programs on an hour and a half of video tape. Does anyone happen to have Friday's Angel taped - I only really need the second half :( Anybody got the 1st half of the terrestrial Buffy from this week taped? And the second half infact. Damn Burns Night.
Re: Video Tips
At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:18:29 +, Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Cross wrote: Here's a top tip. Don't try to video two hours of programs on an hour and a half of video tape. Does anyone happen to have Friday's Angel taped - I only really need the second half :( Anybody got the 1st half of the terrestrial Buffy from this week taped? And the second half infact. Damn Burns Night. Not yet, but the videos for the second half of that series should be landing on my doormat in two weeks time. Does anyone else thing that this week's BBC and Sky Buffies were rather similar? Dave...
Re: Video Tips
Staying resolutely on-topic [1], I've started watching my "League of Gentlemen" first series DVD. This is a very good DVD indeed, with an second audio track by the cast talking about why they did everything. The DVD starts with a question "Are you Local ?" If you click "No" it switches off :) -- Robert [1] Not! Dave Cross wrote: Here's a top tip. Don't try to video two hours of programs on an hour and a half of video tape.
Re: Video Tips
* at 29/01 11:29 - Robert Shiels said: Staying resolutely on-topic [1], I've started watching my "League of Gentlemen" first series DVD. This is a very good DVD indeed, with an second audio track by the cast talking about why they did everything. The DVD starts with a question "Are you Local ?" If you click "No" it switches off :) thereby robert demonstrates joke spoiling techinque 27 :) struan
Re: Video Tips
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, you wrote: The DVD starts with a question "Are you Local ?" If you click "No" it switches off :) reminds me of some Monty Pyton PC game .. Search for the Holy Grail. after a long intro the opening screen you get two options 'Get the Grail' and summink else .. Get the Grail takes you through a little sequence ' of congratulations youve found the grail .. thanks for playing' and the programme then quits. -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
Re: template toolkit .. one more kwestion
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, you wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
this works fine if the function returns a list with more than one thing
in it .. if there is only one thing in the array I get a 'dont know how
to access [ 3 ].0 if for example item 3 is returned.
if I access the result as just plain [% item %] it works fine if there is
one item in the list .. and returns lots of ARRAY0x1241234 if there is
more than one ...
Sounds like your dereferencing function may be returning a SCALAR instead
of an ARRAY when there's only one result?
could be ... I had :
my($data)=$sth-fetchall_arrayref;
return @{$data};
which I thought should return a flat list of references to arrays ... ??
nope?
--
Robin Szemeti
The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!
LAMP Stuff
O'Reilly have launched a new site discussing LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, Perl/Python/PHP) web development. Most of the current content seems to be links to existing O'Reilly Network content (e.g. perl.com), but it's a interesting start. And good to see the term being given credence by someone like O'Reilly. Dave... [who is glad he still has the lampmagic domains!]
Re: LAMP Stuff
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:52:37AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: O'Reilly have launched a new site discussing LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, Perl/Python/PHP) web development. Most of the current content seems to be links to existing O'Reilly Network content (e.g. perl.com), but it's a interesting start. And good to see the term being given credence by someone like O'Reilly. Dave... [who is glad he still has the lampmagic domains!] And the url is? Michael (I had a quick look at ora.com but I couldn't see anything obvious)
Re: LAMP Stuff
At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:58:44 +, Michael Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:52:37AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: O'Reilly have launched a new site discussing LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, Perl/Python/PHP) web development. Most of the current content seems to be links to existing O'Reilly Network content (e.g. perl.com), but it's a interesting start. And good to see the term being given credence by someone like O'Reilly. Dave... [who is glad he still has the lampmagic domains!] And the url is? Michael (I had a quick look at ora.com but I couldn't see anything obvious) D'oh [fx: slaps forehead] http://www.onlamp.com/ Dave...
fspi
i got a shiny copy of Dave's book in the post on saturday, very nice indeed -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: LAMP Stuff
http://www.onlamp.com/ Dave... /me wonders if Dave's article on the main page is at all relevant to this thread :-) /Robert
Re: HTML:Parser
At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:07:27 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just installed HTML::Parser on a machine here. It passed all of make, make test and make install fine. (output from make test pasted) [snip] Then when I try to use it in the following file (which is a quick paste from lwpcook, with some changes to make it work in new seperate version of HTML::Parser) [snip] The output I get from this is Can't locate auto/HTML/Parser/traverse.al in @INC (@INC contains the followinng paths SNIP) the paths arse set up correctly and pointing at where I installed the module, so I'm stumped. Does anyone have any ideas ? Gareth, traverse isn't an HTML::Parser method. As far as I can see, from CPAN, it never has been. That example isn't in the current lwpcook either. I think your problem is that your lwp is rather old and your HTML::Parser is very new. You're getting incompatibilities. Dave...
Re: HTML::Parser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in ugly HTML:
my $h =
$parser-parse_file("/export/home/gharper/0,10225,1_1547_2168,00.htm");
This smells of the "V" word :-)
$h-traverse(\expand_urls, 1);
[snip]
The output I get from this is
Can't locate auto/HTML/Parser/traverse.al in @INC (@INC contains
the followinng paths SNIP)
the paths arse set up correctly and pointing at where I installed
the module, so I'm stumped. Does anyone have any ideas ?
I don't see any mention of a method "traverse" in the HTML::Parser manpage
for HTML::Parser::VERSION == 3.15, nor in my version of the lwpcook page.
Maybe you got a wrong example from somewhere?
Cheers,
Philip
HTML:Parser
Title: HTML:Parser
I've just installed HTML::Parser on a machine here. It passed all of make, make test and make install fine. (output from make test pasted)
bash-2.02$ make test
PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/bin/perl -Iblib/arch -Iblib/lib -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.00503/sun4-solaris -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.00503
-e 'use Test::Harness qw(runtests $verbose); $verbose=0; runtests @ARGV;' t/*.t
t/api_version...ok
t/argspec-bad...ok
t/argspec...ok
t/cases.ok
t/comment...ok
t/crashme...ok
t/declaration...ok
t/default...ok
t/dtext.ok
t/entities..ok
t/filterok
t/handler-eof...ok
t/handler...ok
t/headparser-http...ok
t/headparserok
t/ignoreok
t/largetags.ok
t/linkextor-baseok
t/linkextor-rel.ok
t/magic.ok
t/marked-sect...ok
t/offsetok
t/options...ok
t/parsefile.ok
t/parserok
t/process...ok
t/tokeparserok
t/uentities.skipping test on this platform
t/unbroken-text.ok
t/xml-mode..ok
All tests successful, 1 test skipped.
Files=30, Tests=147, 48 wallclock secs (40.17 cusr + 5.53 csys = 45.70 CPU)
Then when I try to use it in the following file (which is a quick paste from lwpcook, with some changes to make it work in new seperate version of HTML::Parser)
#!/usr/local/bin/perl -w
use strict;
use HTML::Parser;
my %link_elements =
(
'a' = 'href',
'img' = 'src',
'form' = 'action',
'link' = 'href',
);
my $BASE = http://www.sportal.co.uk/;
my $parser = HTML::Parser-new();
my $h = $parser-parse_file(/export/home/gharper/0,10225,1_1547_2168,00.htm);
$h-traverse(\expand_urls, 1);
print $h-as_HTML;
sub expand_urls
{
my($e, $start) = @_;
return 1 unless $start;
my $attr = $link_elements{$e-tag};
return 1 unless defined $attr;
my $url = $e-attr($attr);
return 1 unless defined $url;
$e-attr($attr, url($url, $BASE)-abs-as_string);
}
The output I get from this is
Can't locate auto/HTML/Parser/traverse.al in @INC (@INC contains the followinng paths SNIP)
the paths arse set up correctly and pointing at where I installed the module, so I'm stumped. Does anyone have any ideas ?
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Re: fspi
At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:12:01 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i got a shiny copy of Dave's book in the post on saturday, very nice indeed *blush* Thanks. Dave... [who hasn't actually got a copy yet!]
RE: Technical Meeting Venues
Speaking from a personal standpoint, I really enjoy the technical meetings and think more of them would be really beneficial[2]. I think they represent a lot of what we are us to and show that we're all not just talk 'n booze. Hence I'm anxious to see them succeed. I'd like to be able to attend your technical meetings, since compared to the majority of you lot I'm pretty green, having only been using perl for just over eighteen months. And this: Bath.pm roots showing. We used to discuss a fair amount of technical (but not necessary perl related) stuff. From this, I quickly progressed into the well rounded perl programmer I am today[3] Works for me as a testimonial to *.pm tech meetings. Tech meetings good. Learning things from sharp people good. So how do That.pm feel about some northern tyke scuttling down to join you for the odd beer and tech meeting on a sort of semi-regular basis? -- matt
Re: Passwords
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:30:07PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: I just wanted to ask a brief question about passwords. I have access to about 10 SAP systems in my work at the moment, and all of them require a password, and these passwords all expire after 60 days. This will happen at random times depending on when I actually try to logon. So I have the potential of having 10 different passwords. And I get locked out of the system after 3 bad password tries (as sysadmin I can unlock myself, but it's a pain, and also as sysadmin, I need to unlock other people all the time). My question is, Why is automatic password expiry a good idea? It's a pain, and encourages bad password management. I'll probably log onto each system every 60 days and set them all to the same one. Not that I necessarily agree with what this says, it's definately interesting and worth thinking about: Security and Human Factors http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20001126.html Michael
RE: Technical Meeting Venues
At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:27:41 -, Matthew Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So how do That.pm feel about some northern tyke scuttling down to join you for the odd beer and tech meeting on a sort of semi-regular basis? We'd be very happy for you to come along whenever you wanted to. Dave...
Re: fspi
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:12:01PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: i got a shiny copy of Dave's book in the post on saturday, very nice indeed -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net Where did you get it from so quickly? Direct from Manning? jp
Re: Technical Meeting Venues
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:41:38PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: i assume odd beer is a typo and you mean't odd beers, i.e. an odd number of beers ( i've also decided that 1 is not an odd number ) seriously, i'm sure everyone would welcome you with open arms We are perl. you will be assimiliated. Michael
Re: Technical Meeting Venues
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:28:07PM +, David Cantrell wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:27:41PM -, Matthew Jones wrote: So how do That.pm feel about some northern tyke scuttling down to join you for the odd beer and tech meeting on a sort of semi-regular basis? You will, of course, be assimilated and ultimately move to That London. Just like that northern tyke Mr. Clamp did. Northern, why I oughta! I'm from Birmingham damnit[0], which though north of the M25, is nowhere near as grim as proper up north. [0] It's full name being 'Birmingham - damnit, now how do I get through this sodding one way system' -- Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fspi
At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:46:40 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * James Powell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:12:01PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: i got a shiny copy of Dave's book in the post on saturday, very nice indeed Where did you get it from so quickly? Direct from Manning? i'm assuming so, i never actually read the compliment slip, but it was sent from the US in some fancy red and white packaging that gave the impression of speedy delivery Probably worth point out that Greg didn't actually order the book. He was sent a free copy by Manning for all the help he gave whilst the book was being written. Dave...
Re: fspi
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:46:40 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * James Powell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:12:01PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: i got a shiny copy of Dave's book in the post on saturday, very nice indeed Where did you get it from so quickly? Direct from Manning? i'm assuming so, i never actually read the compliment slip, but it was sent from the US in some fancy red and white packaging that gave the impression of speedy delivery Probably worth point out that Greg didn't actually order the book. He was sent a free copy by Manning for all the help he gave whilst the book was being written. i think i'll have to go and review it at amazon now i have a paper copy , although the fact i might put in *** THIS IS A GENUINE REVIEW NOT ONE INFLUENCED BY THE PUBLISHER *** at the top and bottom, might not be in the spirit of receiving a free book, so maybe i should avoid that Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: template toolkit .. one more kwestion solved
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, you wrote:
Sounds like your dereferencing function may be returning a SCALAR instead
of an ARRAY when there's only one result?
could be ... I had :
my($data)=$sth-fetchall_arrayref;
return @{$data};
which I thought should return a flat list of references to arrays ... ??
nope?
so .. after a quick fiddle ..
It seem T::T automagically assumes that if you pass it a reference to
something then you probably didn;t want that, you prolly wanted the thingy
itself so it dereferences it for you.. it will only do this down one
level.
so by passing it a list of references it sees a list .. does a foreach
down them and then sees what it gets (in this case an array ref ) .. it
dereferences that and bingo you can now access the row of stuff.
however when the list jsut contains 1 item, it sees a reference to an
array ( whicj is the row) and then proceeds to do a foreach over the
elements of the row ..
by simply not passing it the thing in list format but passing the plain
reference (ie return $data instead of @{$data}) it always gets an arrayref
and works for both cases of 1 or n items in the array.
solved .. it just took me a while to twig what was going on.
--
Robin Szemeti
The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!
Another Template Toolkit Q
Title: Another Template Toolkit Q So TT nicely allows a filename, a filehandle or blank for STDOUT. So how to I capture the output to some variable so I could, say, manipulate that output without having to read the file I've outputted? Is that possible? Mark K.
Re: Technical Meeting Venues
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:54:26PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: the minute i cross the river, i can feel grimness coming upon me And they all talk funny. North of the river they're all called Hamish and Angus, and they wear flat caps and have whippets. Greg (who was surfing for flats in balham this weekend and spotted one on dave's road ;-) ) You don't want to live there then. Slum landlords and all that. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced
Re: Another Template Toolkit Q
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 03:17:10PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So TT nicely allows a filename, a filehandle or blank for STDOUT. So how to I capture the output to "some variable" so I could, say, manipulate that output without having to read the file I've outputted? Is that possible? istr if you give it a scalar reference, as the 3rd parameter, then it puts it in there. Hang on, isn't there an actual Template Toolkit mailing list. -- Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Technical Meeting Venues
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And they all talk funny. North of the river they're all called Hamish and Angus, and they wear flat caps and have whippets. 'eyup! My uncle used to race greyhounds and whippets (and pigeons!) and I have a flat cap. But I don't talk funny, and I'm not called Hamish. -- rob partington % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://lynx.browser.org/
Re: Another Template Toolkit Q
* at 29/01 15:17 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: So TT nicely allows a filename, a filehandle or blank for STDOUT. So how to I capture the output to "some variable" so I could, say, manipulate that output without having to read the file I've outputted? Is that possible? mmm, this should be a FAQ... perldoc Template: By default, the processed template output is printed to STDOUT. The process() method then returns 1 to indicate success. A third parameter may be passed to the process() method to specify a different output location. This value may be one of: a plain string indicating a filename which will be opened (relative to OUTPUT_PATH, if defined) and the output written to; a file GLOB opened ready for output; a reference to a scalar (e.g. a text string) to which output/error is appended; a reference to a subroutine which is called, passing the output as a parameter; or any object reference which implements a 'print' method (e.g. IO::Handle, Apache::Request, etc.) which will be called, passing the generated output as a parameter. If you note, the third paramater can be a ref to a scalar to which the output is appended. hth struan (sho missed this fisrt time round too :)
RE: Another Template Toolkit Q
Title: RE: Another Template Toolkit Q Hang on, isn't there an actual Template Toolkit mailing list. -- Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is? Well I know when I'm not wanted then :-) Mark k.
RE: Technical Meeting Venues
the minute i cross the river, i can feel grimness coming upon me And they all talk funny. North of the river they're all called Hamish and Angus, and they wear flat caps and have whippets. Eeeh, lad, 'appen tha's f'gottent' pigeon-fancying[1] and breakfasts consisting entirely of clotted blood wrapped up in guts. Mind you, as I've said elsewhere, the beer's *dead* cheap, and properly-made. Which is why I tend to drink fizzy lager in That, because I've yet to find a rub-a-dub that serves a decent pint of Real Ale[0]. Like Old Eli or Enoch's Hammer from the Sair Inn[2]. -- matt [0]Of course there's no ulterior motive for me wanting to come to That.pm meetings ... [1] Well done, Rob. [2] http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/6006/sair.htm
Re: Technical Meeting Venues
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:54:26 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the minute i cross the river, i can feel grimness coming upon me AOL/ One of the big plus points for this jobs was that it was on the right (i.e. south) side of the river. Greg (who was surfing for flats in balham this weekend and spotted one on dave's road ;-) ) Do you know what number it was? it doesnt say on the main website and the links down to the fuller detail picture its being let my sheraton law if thats any help just think of the sitcom possibilities if i lived above you Dave? heh? heh? ;-) ;-) greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
RE: Another Template Toolkit Q
Hang on, isn't there an actual Template Toolkit mailing list. -- Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is? Well I know when I'm not wanted then :-) Mark k. Check http://www.tt2.org/info.html#lists for details. And it's not that you're not wanted :-) it's more that you're likely to get more authorative answers there. Neil. -- Neil C. Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.binky.ourshack.org
Re: Technical Meeting Venues
Matthew Jones wrote: Dave is sitting in his living room, leafing through his back issues of "Canned Food and Preserved Rations Monthly". Wrong Dave. More like "Dave is lounging casually in his Chippendale, stroking his gold plated cat and having his feet massaged by a minion. Another lackey is reading aloud from the latest issue of 'Being rich monthly' but Dave halts him with a flick of his bejewelled hand sends him scurrying away, tugging his forelock as he backs out of the room, hi-salamming as he goes. He is just musing whether or not to go riding in his Zeppelin throwing gold coins to the supplicating paupers below when Greg walks in ..."
Re: template toolkit .. one more kwestion solved
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 05:31:52PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
Reminds me of fits I had when doing Vignette/Tcl with lists of lists that I
passed to another template with HTTP POST. When the list of lists contained
only one element, it didn't wrap that list in extra {} so the foreach say a
list of lists all right -- but the "sublists" were only one element long
(since {} are optional around lists if there are not spaces). Caused me a
Try creating a JavaScript array of length one whose first
element is initialised to 1. Aaargh. [1]
Paul
[1]
# These numbers get turned into a JavaScript array later on that
# looks like new Array (1,1,0); Owing to JavaScript1.0 braindeadedness
# new Array (1) is interpreted as "created a one element list" not
# "create a one element list with [0]=1". However this is achievable
# if the number is given as a string like new Array("1");
@time_names = sort {$a = $b} keys %time_names;
foreach my $i_list (keys %time_cache) {
$time_cache{$i_list} =
join ',', map {$time_cache{$i_list}{$_} ? 1 : 0} @time_names;
$time_cache{$i_list} =~ s/^(.)$/"$1"/;
}
Re: Technical Meeting Venues
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:28:07PM +, David Cantrell wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:27:41PM -, Matthew Jones wrote: So how do That.pm feel about some northern tyke scuttling down to join you for the odd beer and tech meeting on a sort of semi-regular basis? You will, of course, be assimilated and ultimately move to That London. Or California like some London.pm'ers. Great weather, AND you don't have to get up in at four in t'morning t'lick road clean. (They have illegally present Mexicans for that.) Paul
Fwd: [mengerin@deja.com: [?] Template Toolkit]
I got the following email in response to my TT2 article. I know nothing about EmbPerl so I can't really answer these points. Does anyone who has used EmbPerl have any ammo that I can use in my reply? Dave... - Forwarded message from [snip] - Howdy, I'm curious why you prefer the TT to EmbPerl? It seems that the capabilities of TT are a strict subset of EmbPerl. Granted the syntax is arguably slightly easier at first than EmbPerl, it doesn't seem worth the lesser functionality and forcing of data manipulation in the calling space. We use EmbPerl extensively at DejaNews and taught the minimal amounts to all of the HTML folks designers and programmers. No one had any difficulty w/ '@' or '%' so much as the concept of an array or a hash. That is to say that no one had syntactic difficulties, just structural. So, it seems that if there is a movement to establish a module in the same ranks as LWP, CGI, DBI, XML::Parser and the like that it would be better as EmbedPerl than the Template Toolkit. Thoughts? Cheers, - End forwarded message - -- http://www.dave.org.uk | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] plugData Munging with Perl http://www.manning.com/cross//plug
Re: .emacs
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 07:53:00PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: I like my .emacs file. It sets nice fonts and colours, and sets the editing mode and wrapping mode of choice ;-) I'm sure it can do more... 1) Where do I find handy things to put into my .emacs file on the web? 2) Got any nice bits of your .emacs file to share? Note that (shock, horror) I can't program lisp properly (duh, I program perl) so that I may sound stupid when it comes to these things. I have a massive emacs setup of multi-pleasure that's been mouldering for about two-three years. Maybe I should resurrect it. Michael
Re: .emacs
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:13:11PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: Hmm. Can you do something to save directly via scp? http://ls6-www.informatik.uni-dortmund.de/~grossjoh/emacs/tramp.html .robin. -- A man, a plan, a cat, a ham, a yak, a yam, a hat, a canal--Panama!
Re: Fwd: [uri@sysarch.com: free copy of data munging with perl]
Dave Cross sent the following bits through the ether: I'd be failing in my duty as group leader if I didn't pass on this announcement from the Perl Mongers Group Leaders mailing list :) Yes. I've actually got a copy of this fine book lying in my bedroom right now. An actual book! Hardcopy! Not on the screen! Let's buy Dave a drink or two ;-) Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/ ... And tomorrow will be like today, only more so
Re: Technical Meeting Venues
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:57:00PM +, Chris Benson wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:48:33PM +, Richard Clamp wrote: I'm from Birmingham damnit[0], which though north of the M25, is nowhere near as grim as proper up north. Oi! where you calling grim http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/maps/britain.gif So there. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced
Re: Fwd: [mengerin@deja.com: [?] Template Toolkit]
Dave Cross sent the following bits through the ether: I got the following email in response to my TT2 article. I know nothing about EmbPerl so I can't really answer these points. Does anyone who has used EmbPerl have any ammo that I can use in my reply? Embperl is entirely Apache and web based, which is good for some things and bad for some things, like having the template wotsit work orthogonally to everything else. They're about the same speed, as they both compile the templates to Perl, which they then evaluate. The Embperl compiler is in C, but in my tests this doesn't save you much as mostly you only compile templates once. While I'm at it, I looked at the TT2 compiler last week and it generates pretty damn good code pretty quickly indeed. Writing compilers to Perl rocks. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/ ... All generalizations are false, including this one
Re: Fwd: [mengerin@deja.com: [?] Template Toolkit]
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 09:31:30PM +, Leon Brocard wrote: I got the following email in response to my TT2 article. I know nothing about EmbPerl so I can't really answer these points. Does anyone who has used EmbPerl have any ammo that I can use in my reply? Embperl is entirely Apache and web based, which is good for some things and bad for some things, like having the template wotsit work orthogonally to everything else. It's definately entirely web based, but I have cron jobs using embperl to generate html email that goes to various people without ever going near apache... Michael
Re: .emacs
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:26:32PM +, Robin Houston wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:13:11PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: Hmm. Can you do something to save directly via scp? http://ls6-www.informatik.uni-dortmund.de/~grossjoh/emacs/tramp.html See, that's what you get for posting before/while your modem connection messes you about as you download mail. D'oh -- Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another Template Toolkit Q
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So TT nicely allows a filename, a filehandle or blank for STDOUT. So how to I capture the output to "some variable" so I could, say, manipulate that output without having to read the file I've outputted? $tt-process($template,$variables,\$outvar); $outvar will contain the output. /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk |
RE: Technical Meeting Venues
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote: From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 January 2001 15:34 just think of the sitcom possibilities if i lived above you Dave? heh? heh? ;-) ;-) Bit tricky that. What with us living in a house and all that. We have seagulls on our roof, perhaps grep meant to be building a nest on your chimney ? /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk |
Re: Fwd: [mengerin@deja.com: [?] Template Toolkit]
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Leon Brocard wrote: Dave Cross sent the following bits through the ether: I got the following email in response to my TT2 article. I know nothing about EmbPerl so I can't really answer these points. Does anyone who has used EmbPerl have any ammo that I can use in my reply? Embperl is entirely Apache and web based, which is good for some things and bad for some things, like having the template wotsit work orthogonally to everything else. And entirely impossible for a lot of the things that I am using TT for like creating printed documents and e-mail messages /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk |
Re: Fwd: [uri@sysarch.com: free copy of data munging with perl]
It's starting to sound like I@m the only bugger who _hasn't_ got a copy
of my book yet :(
Fret not, fearless nominal leader. Mine hasn't arrived yet either.
Later.
Mark.
--
print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} (
Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer' ,
Firm = 'Profero Ltd',Web = 'http://www.profero.com/' ,
Email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Phone = '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' )
33 mails
how the f*** did you lot send 33 mails to this list between when i left work and now? sheesh -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Technical Meeting Venues
* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote: From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 January 2001 15:34 just think of the sitcom possibilities if i lived above you Dave? heh? heh? ;-) ;-) Bit tricky that. What with us living in a house and all that. We have seagulls on our roof, perhaps grep meant to be building a nest on your chimney ? ok scratch that, the idea for the sitcom is i'm the lodger, dave had to rent out his flat because he needed the cash --- err no, thats a bit too far fetched even for a sitcom -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Meeting Reminder
i'd like to point out that this is an EXCEPTIONAL social meeting of London.pm due to MJD, the real meeting of course will be on the day after the first wednesday of the month * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: There's a social meeting on Thursday 1st Feb (that's this coming Thursday). It will be in the Barrowboay Banker at the southern end of London Bridge. There's a map on the web site. Mark-Jason Dominus will be joining us and I think that Simon Cozens is thinking of coming along too. Dave... -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: 33 mails
grep complained:
how the f*** did you lot send 33 mails to this list between when i
left work and now?
sheesh
Practice? We learn quickly, o wise teacher.
Later.
Mark.
--
print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} (
Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer' ,
Firm = 'Profero Ltd',Web = 'http://www.profero.com/' ,
Email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Phone = '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' )
Re: 33 mails
* Mark Fowler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: grep complained: how the f*** did you lot send 33 mails to this list between when i left work and now? sheesh Practice? We learn quickly, o wise teacher. its ok, i figured out why, some dum-shee (scottish word, ask Dave Can, who got to see my Scotty McClue video one night) asked a question about emacs rc files oh, you should all no, i'm going to be working my arse of the next few days and then finishing with a big presentation on thursday - i then have friday off this coupled with my relative sobrietary during january means we are going to have to go for it big time on thursday night if i can have 2 teams of 3 before tomorow (tuesday) night i'll come up with a drinking game/quiz based around perl/london.pm/computing trivia how about Dave Cross and MJD as team captains? gre[gp] -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: 33 mails
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 12:23:43AM +, Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: if i can have 2 teams of 3 before tomorow (tuesday) night i'll come up with a drinking game/quiz based around perl/london.pm/computing trivia how about Dave Cross and MJD as team captains? I thought you were planning to save this kind of stuff for the heretics meeting on the 8th. Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] plugData Munging with Perl http://www.manning.com/cross//plug
Re: Meeting Reminder
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 12:09:01AM +, Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: There's a social meeting on Thursday 1st Feb (that's this coming Thursday). It will be in the Barrowboay Banker at the southern end of London Bridge. There's a map on the web site. Mark-Jason Dominus will be joining us and I think that Simon Cozens is thinking of coming along too. i'd like to point out that this is an EXCEPTIONAL social meeting of London.pm due to MJD, the real meeting of course will be on the day after the first wednesday of the month Greg's obviously started drinking again a couple of days too early. He knows full well that official london.pm social meetings are on the first Thursday of the month. This has _always_ been the case and I have no intention of changing it now. If Greg wants to organise an extra meeting on the 8th for the McCarroll heretics then that's fine by me, but he should probably be giving out some information about the venue at some point soon if he wants anyone to turn up. Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] plugData Munging with Perl http://www.manning.com/cross//plug
Re: Fwd: [uri@sysarch.com: free copy of data munging with perl]
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 11:03:19PM +, Dave Cross wrote: It's starting to sound like I@m the only bugger who _hasn't_ got a copy of my book yet :( I got a copy in the mail yesterday when I got home :-) -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced
Re: Meeting Reminder
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greg's obviously started drinking again a couple of days too early. He knows full well that official london.pm social meetings are on the first Thursday of the month. This has _always_ been the case and I have no intention of changing it now. as i said earlier in the month ... *puts hands over ears* la, la, la, i can't hear you , la la la If Greg wants to organise an extra meeting on the 8th for the McCarroll heretics then that's fine by me, but he should probably be giving out some information about the venue at some point soon if he wants anyone to turn up. The Anchor, near London Bridge, 8/1/2001, starting 6.30 ish ;-) (ask me for directions if you dont' know it) -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: 33 mails
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 12:23:43AM +, Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: if i can have 2 teams of 3 before tomorow (tuesday) night i'll come up with a drinking game/quiz based around perl/london.pm/computing trivia how about Dave Cross and MJD as team captains? I thought you were planning to save this kind of stuff for the heretics meeting on the 8th. a heretic is not just for the 8th of a month, they are for the whole year anyway, i've got about 10 questions written already , i'm thinking that if a team gets all the answers wrong in a round their penalty is to have to drink .. non alchoholic drinks for the next round! -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
