Re: CiP value =1.5?
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 11:24:57PM +, Robin Szemeti wrote:
@P=split//,".URRUU\c8R";@d=split//,"\n?neht krow siht seod woh oS";sub
p{@p{"r$p","u$p"}=(P,P);pipe"r$p","u$p";++$p;($q*=2)+=$f=!fork;map{$P=
$P[$f^ord ($p{$_})6];$p{$_}=/^$P/ix?$P:close$_}keys%p}p;p;p;p;p;map{$p
{$_}=~/^[P.]/ close$_}%p;wait until$?;map{/^r/$_}%p;$_=$d[$q];
sleep rand(2)if/\S/;print
not mine, but amusing
It's probably worrying if I can look at the above and think "That looks like
MJD's code".
--
King's Law of Clues : Common sense is inversely proportional to the
academic intelligence of the person concerned.
Re: Silly postings
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 05:27:57PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: No, best pizza is in NY or the hypehnated environs. You go to Italky for the wine and the antipasti. It's a hell of a trip back for the main course, though. -- People in a Position to Know, Inc.
Re: Certing
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Robin is mistaken. We had a very serious discussion which covered a number of difficult topics. Greg was volunteered to take minutes, and will be posting a summary shortly. Err, yes exactly as Dave says it. The minutes will take the form of an agreed plan of action, that we will kick off. I seem to remember Leon looking over the plan and thinking it was jolly good -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
RE: Silly postings
Hm. Looking over this you might not want to read it if you're eating or
anything.
I reserve judgement until I've had a NY pizza and a NY
coffee. However, I expect neither to be up to the standards
I expect :-) You have to beat Roma* to be acceptable.
I've had a NY pizza and it was certainly the most *foul* pizza I have ever
had the misfortune of not being able to avoid eating (*inlcuding* McCain
frozen pizza). It was soggy, in fact, *wet*, the topping slid off the base
like scabs slipping off a weeping sore, and it fell to bits. Only a sample
of one, I know, but on the stength of that, {NY Pizza}--
Said standards, BTW, give every single London / Paris pizza
/ coffee a fail mark, except the coffees I brew.
NY cawwfee, OTOH, really impressed me. I loved it. Merkan diner breakfasts
are great. Bacon and waffles and pancakes and syrup and eggs over easy and
home fries. They were very fulfilling indeed.
But what is it about NY toilets that only about three of them flushed
properly during my entire visit? Almost every time I or the people I was
with went into a kludgie, we found it blocked up by a grim combination of
ordure and bogroll. Didn't matter where we were, the hostel we stayed in,
the diners we went to, the tourist attractions, any publicly-available lav.
Ewww.
Oh and mm, turkish coffee. Yowsa.
--
matt
"'scuse me trooper, will you be needing any packets today?
hey, baby, don't be pulling on my socket, okay?"
the 2nd best london.pm meeting of all time
I nominate last night as the 2nd best social meeting of all time, just behind the TVR train and toilet seat nicking of a previous meeting. The stolen wine by the thames at 1am was a particularly nice feature. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Test
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 03:57:08PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:40:03PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: Anyway, tip-o-the-day for mutt users. How to get HTML viewed easily and automatically. I'm not 100% sure of the security aspects, but it's still better than Lookout. ;-) [ ~/.mailcap ]-- text/html; /usr/bin/lynx %s; nametemplate=%s.html text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput [ ~/.muttrc ]--- set mailcap_path=~/.mailcap auto_view text/html This is great, thanks! Is it possible to get it to do this *only* when the email is content-type: text/html; rather than displaying it instead of the text/plain in a multipart/alternative? Pass, I'm afraid. Another mutt question: How do you send To: a whopping list of recipients? It's a nightmare copy/pasting on a single line. I ended up editing the headers with E (on the final page) and reading the recip.'s in from a file. Seems laborious. Umm, I find that editing my headers with the message makes the most sense: set edit_headers Then, you can do things like: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ie: indent all following lines, ala RFC822. -Dom
Re: Certing
* at 05/04 21:37 + Robin Szemeti said: On Thu, 05 Apr 2001, you wrote: * Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * Dean ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Will the Perl Cert discussion/brainstorming be taking part at todays meet or the technical one? todays having said that i think it will be pretty damn informal judging by the way grep appeared late, informed everyone he'd had 'a hell of a day' and then went to the bar and bought two 6 pint pitchers of 6X I think it fair to say it might well be a little more informal than people might possibly have imagined . :)) and this i why i would like to nominate that the phrase of the day is "I blame greg" struan (who really drank far more than he intended)
RE: the 2nd best london.pm meeting of all time
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 April 2001 10:00 I nominate last night as the 2nd best social meeting of all time, just behind the TVR train and toilet seat nicking of a previous meeting. It _was_ a lot of fun. Thanks everyone for coming. The stolen wine by the thames at 1am was a particularly nice feature. Oh $deity. Are we going to be barred from Vinopolis now? Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: CiP value =1.5?
Quoting Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): It's probably worrying if I can look at the above and think "That looks like MJD's code". Nah, the p;p;p;p;p is a dead give away. And the fnord ofcourse :-) -- Merijn Broeren| Nothing is more poignant in old age than the Software Geek | memory of temptation resisted. |
Re: sub BEGIN {}
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:08:09 +0100 (BST), Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote: Paul, whose uni got nicked in fscking cambridge. "Ooh, it's got a wheel! Not the usual two, but fuck it, let's steal it anyway!" Ah, but people so often have quick release front wheels... erm. I've yet to see a unicycle with a quick release wheel, though. However, mine does have a quick release saddle. That's to say, last time I mounted it, the saddle snapped in two. That was over six months ago, and I still haven't got round to fitting the new saddle I immediately bought. -- Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real programmers like vending machine popcorn. Coders pop it in the microwave oven. Real programmers use the heat from the CPU. They can tell which jobs are running from the rate of popping.
Re: Test
Quoting Paul Makepeace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): This is great, thanks! Is it possible to get it to do this *only* when the email is content-type: text/html; rather than displaying it instead of the text/plain in a multipart/alternative? Yeah, you set it up in .muttrc : auto_view text/html application/msword alternative_order text/enriched text/plain text set mailcap_path="~/.mutt-mailcap:~/.mailcap:/etc/mailcap" My .mutt-mailcap looks like this : # Try w3m first text/html; cathtml.sh %s; copiousoutput # Send html to a running netscape by remote text/html; netscape -remote 'openURL(%s)'; test=RunningNetscape # Else use lynx to view it as text text/html; lynx -dump %s; copiousoutput text/*; cat %s ; copiousoutput application/msword; catdoc; copiousoutput application/postscript; ps2ascii %s; copiousoutput And loads more for images and stuff. Especially catdoc is a godsend. Oh, my cathml.sh looks like this : #!/bin/sh eval `resize`; w3m -T text/html -cols $COLUMNS -dump $1; On the risk of offending the person who gets really tired of the w3m-is-better meme, I prefer w3m because I get send so many tables in html, they show up real nice. Cheerrs, -- Merijn Broeren| Nothing is more poignant in old age than the Software Geek | memory of temptation resisted. |
[HELP] Quick question about Red Hat and gb keyboards
Hi, My experience with Red Hat is none existant, and I haven't installed a n desktop Linux system in ages, so turn to you lot to ask a quick question about something that isn't immediatley obvious to me. If I change in /etc/X11/XF86config the keyboard setting to 'gb' from 'us', the backspace and delete key give me a forward delete. I don't care that much since I can't type on a gb keybaord anyway, but one of my collegues here is much annoyed by the ctrl-H :-) I tried stty erase and looked with jwz's [1] xkeycaps. Xmodmap seems to make no difference. Anybody got an easy answer? Cheers, [1] Correct single quote usage? -- Merijn Broeren| Nothing is more poignant in old age than the Software Geek | memory of temptation resisted. |
Re: the 2nd best london.pm meeting of all time
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 10:00:17AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: I nominate last night as the 2nd best social meeting of all time, just behind the TVR train and toilet seat nicking of a previous meeting. The stolen wine by the thames at 1am was a particularly nice feature. Not wishing to be a sourpuss but personally last night was one of the worst social meetings ever. The noise level, being unable to hear people, the lack of space, unavailability of food, etc. made it one of the least pleasent venues we've used. I wasn't at all unhappy about leaving early. However I suspect I'm in the minority. I can imagine The Anchor is a great pub in the summer when you can sit out by the river. Neil.
RE: the 2nd best london.pm meeting of all time
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote:
The stolen wine by the thames at 1am was a particularly nice feature.
Oh $deity. Are we going to be barred from Vinopolis now?
To clarify: We did actually pay for the wine IIRC, but strictly speaking
we shouldn't have removed it from the resturant.
Later.
Mark.
--
print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} (
Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer' ,
Firm = 'Profero Ltd',Web = 'http://www.profero.com/' ,
Email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Phone = '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' )
Re: Test
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Merijn Broeren wrote:
# Else use lynx to view it as text
text/html; lynx -dump %s; copiousoutput
Quick question for us non mutt users that may one day consider using
it. Does this run throgh the shell? And what's %s in this? I'm kinda
hoping it's not able to be '; rm -rf ~/*' or worse, if you get my drift
Later.
Mark.
--
print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} (
Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer' ,
Firm = 'Profero Ltd',Web = 'http://www.profero.com/' ,
Email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Phone = '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' )
Re:
At 22:42 04/04/01, David Cantrell wrote: They should run, not walk, to sourceforge, and get mutt for Win32. I have tried www.sourceforge.net and i get a server / dns error. I have also tried mutt.sourceforge.net which resolves OK but does not mention a win32 version. Any more pointers? I want to try this out! :) PC-Pine is suitable only for small children recovering from major surgery. ...and maybe people who prefer a GUI? :) Natalie
Re:
* at 06/04 11:34 +0100 Natalie Ford said: At 22:42 04/04/01, David Cantrell wrote: PC-Pine is suitable only for small children recovering from major surgery. ...and maybe people who prefer a GUI? :) isn't that what he said? :) struan
Ummm... Perl not professional??
Just looking for a good book on Email I can across the review for Programming Internet Email (Oreilly) by [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1565924797/o/qid=986555353/sr=8-1/026-4687583-3140411 Comments? Andy "Pub: ah, yes, a meeting place where people attempt to reach advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks"
sheik your booty
Elect is a harsh term here. The man was appointed, crowned if you will. Not unlike youre queen, from what I can tell, though I've to date never seen her described as a bumbling idiot. Maybe the BBC keeps that quiet? Heh, have you never *seen* "our" royal family in action? It's not just the Inbred German Bint who's a bumbling idiot: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1263000/1263458.stm -- matt "'scuse me trooper, will you be needing any packets today? hey, baby, don't be pulling on my socket, okay?"
Re: Ummm... Perl not professional??
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:18:13PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:36:40AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunatly this is largely a valid point. Perl is not used by many *professional* people. Perl is used by a lot of people, and some of them are professional, but I wouldn't consider it the majority. A professional is someone with a profession. Indeed. How many computer professionals are out there? As opposed to cowboys of the Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert variety. I certainly don't consider myself "professional", even though I try to ply my trade in what I believe to be a "professional" manner. As a trade, we have a long way to go before we are as respected[1] as those in (say) accountancy, engineering and law. I leave it to yourselves to judge whether or not this is a Good Thing. -Dom [1] In some senses only, I assure you.
RE: Ummm... Perl not professional??
I certainly don't consider myself "professional", even though I try to ply my trade in what I believe to be a "professional" manner. "I'm not a professional, I'm a gifted amateur." The source of that escapes for the moment. -- matt "'scuse me trooper, will you be needing any packets today? hey, baby, don't be pulling on my socket, okay?"
Re: Silly postings
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 07:57:45AM -0400, Chris Devers wrote: On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, David Cantrell wrote: Which is of course wrong. Russia makes the best firearms, Australia makes the best wine, and .us produces the best bloodthirsty maniacs. I believe they recently elected one as their Fuhrer. Elect is a harsh term here. The man was appointed, crowned if you will. ohmigod, my sincere apologies! Not unlike youre queen, from what I can tell, though I've to date never seen her described as a bumbling idiot. Maybe the BBC keeps that quiet? Hmmph. She's not *my* queen. Anyway, I believe the description du jour is that she is a "sweet old dear". -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ This is a signature. There are many like it but this one is mine. ** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important **
Re: Ummm... Perl not professional??
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:18:13PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:36:40AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunatly this is largely a valid point. Perl is not used by many *professional* people. Perl is used by a lot of people, and some of them are professional, but I wouldn't consider it the majority. A professional is someone with a profession. Chuckle. I think you are focusing on the definition rather than the sentiment. DWIM. There are an awful lot of people out there that download a MW script, change a few variables, and wack 'perl programmer' on their CV. I'd say 35-45% of CVs that are sent to me by recruitment agencies fall into this category, or perhaps a little more skilled. My point is that while just getting your job done to keep the boss happy is a valid use for Perl, I'd rather see someone who can get the job done in a manner that will let (you|me|us) maintain, extend, and understand the code that is written. It is a both a pity and a fact that these people are relatively few and far between. The guy's point may be uneducated but it isn't wrong just because (I|you|we) don't like the sentiment. --james. PGP signature
RE: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:16:18 +0100, Matthew Jones wrote: I was at school from up to 1995 and grammer, hand writing and similar were only lightly touched upon. IT was another subject that we never actually did (other than read about spreadsheets leading to my adult hatred of Excel) and as far as I'm aware none of my friends of the same age did any real grammer in school so you can expect a fair size chunk of 20-22 year olds to have no real grasp of what constitutes good grammar. Right, well there's the difference then. I'm 29 this year and I was schooled during the seventies. Was anyone else of a similar age *not* taught proper punctuation and grammar at school? I'm 30, and I don't *remember* being taught grammar at all. It confused the hell out of me when we were all expected to know what prepositions, adverbs and the perfect present were when I started learning French. Although I vaguely remember apostrophes, I'm pretty sure I was never taught the proper uses of (semi)colons and dashes. Anyway, back to the point. Many of my peers and friends who were taught exactly the same punctuation stuff as me just ignored it and used things like "could'nt" and "samwich's" and so on. I reckon it's less to do with it being taight in schools and more to do with how much someone reads. If you read a lot, you see the correct forms a lot and it sinks in. Similarly with grammar, I reckon, although I have absolutely zero evidence to back that up. Maybe I don't remember the grammar lessons because they were boring, or maybe they were taught after I left at the place I move away from, and before I arrived at the place I moved to. -- Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I used to recognise C64 kernel and interpreter entry points in car registration numbers as a game." -- Paul Makepeace
Re: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)
From: "Dave Hodgkinson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Barbie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quite. I'm 35 and was given a good basic education at Primary school of the english language, together most of it's idyosyncrasies. I was lucky enough to go to a Grammar (when there were still such things) so probably faired better than most. Fared? *ducks* Senility is setting in early. I thought it was bit strange my message not appear after posting Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:01:32. Looking at the header it's certainly dome the rounds! Barbie.
Re:
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:34:03AM +0100, Natalie Ford wrote: ...and maybe people who prefer a GUI? :) http://www.thebat.net/ is good I hear. You can poke around on the server before doing a download which is a neat feature. Paul
Re: Silly postings
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:29:03PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 09:25:21AM +0100, Matthew Jones wrote: But what is it about NY toilets that only about three of them flushed properly during my entire visit? First time I went into a NY public toilet, er, bathroom, I thought "my god -- it's exactly like Duke Nukem" and looked arond for a ventilation duct to blast. You *used* a public toilet in nyc??? eek. dha -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ "Hey you! Don't watch dat! Watch thees! This is the heavy, heavy monster sound!" - Madness
Re: Silly postings
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 04:44:59PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote: You *used* a public toilet in nyc??? eek. I've slept in Central Park too. (I was so ill from sleeping with the 10th floor window open there wasn't much else I could do.) Paul
Torvalds not impressed with OS X
http://www.msnbc.com/news/555930.asp Sadly, lacking on details. Paul, who still likes it.
