Training anyone ?
Just saw this linked from a hugely obvious banner ad on the Register : http://training.gbdirect.co.uk/courses/perl/for_the_register.html Great idea to tie it in to a success story I thought. Simon.
Re: www.gateway.gov.uk
At 07:14 AM 2001.06.13 +0100, Chris Benson wrote: I need to read the news more often, I was thinking about Louisiana! I also need to get a better grip of the geography: I thought LA. was the Florida side of Mississippi and Alabama. No, it's the place where I was born -- Lower Alabama. Also refers to nearby Literate Mississippi, where the joke, it is generally noticed, is missed entirely by the locals. -- Chris Devers [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster work: 781.270.5372 Skillcheck aol-im: chdevers
Re: Training anyone ?
On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 01:15:17PM +0100, Simon Wilcox wrote: Just saw this linked from a hugely obvious banner ad on the Register : http://training.gbdirect.co.uk/courses/perl/for_the_register.html Great idea to tie it in to a success story I thought. Grumble grumble. At least they only claim to be the maintenance team. Almost like boasting about being the team sent in to fetch the team sent in to rescue the hostages. If on the other hand you want the dev team, I'm sure Barbie and I could figure something to tell you for the right amount of beer. I'm half tempted to see what they'd teach me though... :) -- Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Training anyone ?
On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 03:37:19PM +0100, Richard Clamp wrote: If on the other hand you want the dev team, I'm sure Barbie and I *cough* oh hang on, do I really want to be associated with the bastards? could figure something to tell you for the right amount of beer. that settles it, yes. everything's for sale, even pride. I'm half tempted to see what they'd teach me though... :) pipe-lagging? martial arts? surfing? personal hygiene? ;) -- dave thorn | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Training anyone ?
Quoting Richard Clamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): At least they only claim to be the maintenance team. Almost like boasting about being the team sent in to fetch the team sent in to rescue the hostages. Hang on, that still sounds like the original team needed to be rescued. I'd change that statement to 'boasting about being the team shining the boots and greasing the pickaxes of the team sent in to rescue the hostages'. Who are now apparently enjoying their beer. ;-) Cheers, -- Merijn Broeren | Software Geek | Yield to temptation; it may not pass your way again. |
Re: Training anyone ?
On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 03:43:27PM +0100, Dave Thorn wrote: I'm half tempted to see what they'd teach me though... :) personal hygiene? ;) So that's why you never come home anymore... -- Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Training anyone ?
On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 03:47:40PM +0100, Richard Clamp wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 03:43:27PM +0100, Dave Thorn wrote: I'm half tempted to see what they'd teach me though... :) personal hygiene? ;) So that's why you never come home anymore... I'm sorry. I didn't want you to find out this way... -- dave thorn | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Training anyone ?
Dave Thorn wrote: that settles it, yes. everything's for sale, even pride. London Pride? -- simon wistowwireless systems coder only second toughest
Re: Training anyone ?
On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 03:59:54PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: Dave Thorn wrote: that settles it, yes. everything's for sale, even pride. London Pride? obviously. they don't just give it away or hoard it, y'know? -- dave thorn | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Possible Job] Perl, Linux
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 07:44:11AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Are there any of you lot still looking for jobs? Still open? I think I might have someone for you. -- If you give a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day. If you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Re: Training anyone ?
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Dave Thorn wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 03:59:54PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: Dave Thorn wrote: that settles it, yes. everything's for sale, even pride. London Pride? obviously. they don't just give it away... Shame. L. Beer good.
Re: Training anyone ?
On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 04:09:16PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Beer good. beer : no beer -- dave thorn | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-06-11
This is the twenty-first weekly summary of the London Perl Mongers mailing list. This is brought to you from yapc::NorthAmerica during Brian Ingerson's CPAN, PPM and the Future talk. For the quiet week starting 2001-06-04: Don't forget the London.pm website for meetings etc. The next meeting is an technical meeting on the 21st, and then a social meeting on Thursday 5th July. Some pictures were taken of the last meeting: http://london.pm.org/ http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/london.pm/2001-06-07/ http://husk.org/perl/pics/ Paul Makepeace posted some posting statistics for the list. Greg posted ny.pm stats. People gave thanks. People complained about the noise *being* the signal (it's signal, Jim, but not as we know it): http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg06626.html Jonathan Stowe mentioned www.gateway.gov.uk, the new UK government portal wotsit, not working on any other platforms other than IE on Windows. There followed a huge thread - basically, they're being stupid and we should all complain to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew Robinson asked about changing the default library paths in a compiled copy of Perl. Iffy solutions: symbolic links, PERL5LIB, doing a global replace. Best solution: get a compiler. I wrote a blogging bot for the #london.pm IRC channel on irc.rhizomatic.net. See what people have been talking about in the past week and right now: http://astray.com/scribot/2001-06-11.html http://astray.com/scribot/ YAPC::Europe registration was announced: http://yapc.org/Europe/ Simon Wistow asked about a persistent Perl daemon (much like mod_perl) but in a general case, keeping a bytecode cache and making programs run faster in the long run. See ByteCache. There was some discussion, but it's probably too much work for too little gain. In other news: Microsoft SQL Server sucking (SQueaL), Sun Ultra Enterprise 1, google++, the Sony Clie being small and cute, checking out pubs for the next meet, buffy, search.cpan.org being hacked (Catalog module apparently), 'back doors' in Linux, obnoxious sigs: and a geeknic with an inflatable penguin: http://www.tpc.org/tpch/results/h-ttperf.idc http://www.sonystyle.com/micros/clie/ http://buffy.slayers.co.uk/ShowStrip.asp?CS=1 http://homepage.tinet.ie/~cullenm/2dart/regi.jpg http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg06738.html http://husk.org/lndn/circ/compat/DSCF0102.jpg Eh?, leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/ ... Have you seen Quasimoto? I have a hunch he's back!
Re: Training anyone ?
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Beer good. Beer Foamy. -- s'' Mark Fowler London.pm Bath.pm http://www.twoshortplanks.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ';use Term'Cap;$t=Tgetent Term'Cap{};print$t-Tputs(cl);for$w(split/ +/ ){for(0..30){$|=print$t-Tgoto(cm,$_,$y). $w;select$k,$k,$k,.03}$y+=2}
Re: Training anyone ?
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Mark Fowler wrote: On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Beer good. Beer Foamy. Only when you add bubble bath... L. A young, female, non-bearded, non-jumpered members of CAMRA? *shock*
Re: Training anyone ?
On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 04:09:16PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Dave Thorn wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 03:59:54PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: Dave Thorn wrote: that settles it, yes. everything's for sale, even pride. London Pride? obviously. they don't just give it away... Shame. Beer good. It's a real pity, then, that most places don't have the first clue how to keep London Pride, and it often tastes a lot worse than it can at its best. MBM
Re: Training anyone ?
From: Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 01:15:17PM +0100, Simon Wilcox wrote: Just saw this linked from a hugely obvious banner ad on the Register : http://training.gbdirect.co.uk/courses/perl/for_the_register.html Great idea to tie it in to a success story I thought. Grumble grumble. At least they only claim to be the maintenance team. Almost like boasting about being the team sent in to fetch the team sent in to rescue the hostages. If on the other hand you want the dev team, I'm sure Barbie and I could figure something to tell you for the right amount of beer. Only just seen this! They probably could only get away with saying they maintain it due to the amount of complex stuff in there, and potential legal implications if they said they designed it. But I'll agree with The Goth here, do we really want to associate with the buggers? I'm half tempted to see what they'd teach me though... :) Seeing as they're in Bradford, perhaps how to make damn fine curries. That's it, you've convinced me, where do I sign up? Barbie
Re: Training anyone ?
From: Lucy McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Beer good. But Guinness is better ;) Barbie
Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-06-11
On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 04:41:56PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: In other news: Microsoft SQL Server sucking (SQueaL), Sun Ultra Enterprise 1, google++, the Sony Clie being small and cute, checking out pubs for the next meet, buffy, search.cpan.org being hacked (Catalog module apparently), 'back doors' in Linux, obnoxious sigs: and a geeknic with an inflatable penguin: http://www.tpc.org/tpch/results/h-ttperf.idc http://www.sonystyle.com/micros/clie/ http://buffy.slayers.co.uk/ShowStrip.asp?CS=1 http://homepage.tinet.ie/~cullenm/2dart/regi.jpg http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg06738.html http://husk.org/lndn/circ/compat/DSCF0102.jpg Regarding the CLIE, I found a cool toy today: JogEverything. It needs hackmaster, but it makes the otherwise useless wheel actually do something useful in most apps: http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodID=11560 -Dom -- | Semantico: creators of major online resources | | URL: http://www.semantico.com/ | | Tel: +44 (1273) 72 | | Address: 33 Bond St., Brighton, Sussex, BN1 1RD, UK. |
Re: Training anyone ?
On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 03:57:08PM +0100, Dave Thorn wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 03:59:54PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: Dave Thorn wrote: that settles it, yes. everything's for sale, even pride. London Pride? obviously. they don't just give it away or hoard it, y'know? There were posters up at London Bridge station about a promotion where the pubs on various of the London stations were giving away free pints, different days for different stations. I first saw the poster on May 5th. The promotions were either on May 3rd or May 2nd. Now, as the poster had a nice big picture of London Pride on it (IIRC) it is unlikely that I would have walked past it for even 1 day without noticing it. So I wonder if the cheeky buggers only put the posters up after the event. Nicholas Clark
BUG: Tie::Hash::Rank
I spotted a bug in Tie::Hash::Rank, which would break the DELETE and EXISTS methods. It's fixed in v 1.0.1 which is winging its way to CPAN as we speak. Oops. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Good advice is always certain to be ignored, but that's no reason not to give it-- Agatha Christie
Re: Training anyone ?
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Nicholas Clark wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 03:57:08PM +0100, Dave Thorn wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 03:59:54PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: Dave Thorn wrote: that settles it, yes. everything's for sale, even pride. London Pride? obviously. they don't just give it away or hoard it, y'know? There were posters up at London Bridge station about a promotion where the pubs on various of the London stations were giving away free pints, different days for different stations. I first saw the poster on May 5th. The promotions were either on May 3rd or May 2nd. Now, as the poster had a nice big picture of London Pride on it (IIRC) it is unlikely that I would have walked past it for even 1 day without noticing it. So I wonder if the cheeky buggers only put the posters up after the event. They had it at Cannon Street a few weeks ago on free offer - I had a couple of free cans of it. However they have it cheap in cans and I have a couple most nights :) /J\
bk strikes again
It's all been pretty civilised over on the Cookwook board recently which has made a nice change. I suspect it might all kick off again tho' when bk sees my response to his contribution to this thread: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=5205 Dave... -- Drugs are just bad m'kay
Re: bk strikes again
I have managed to resist the temptation to join previous flame wars with bk but I was feeling weak this time :( Matt -- s!msfQ!s$utvKs(Q)\1!sfiupoBs^reverse Ibdlfses^# s$#!uojsqs(.)chr(ord($1)-1)ges(.*)reverse $1see - Original Message - From: Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:53 PM Subject: bk strikes again It's all been pretty civilised over on the Cookwook board recently which has made a nice change. I suspect it might all kick off again tho' when bk sees my response to his contribution to this thread: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=5205 Dave... -- Drugs are just bad m'kay
Tie::Hash::Transactional
Go me! Tie::Hash::Transactional is written. It implements a hash which you can checkpoint and rollback. I'll put it on my website as soon as my victim^Wlovely volunteer tester has had a chance to play with it. It was disgustingly easy to write - took about an hour, most of which was writing the docs and the tests. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Good advice is always certain to be ignored, but that's no reason not to give it-- Agatha Christie
Re: Training anyone ?
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Barbie wrote: They probably could only get away with saying they maintain it due to the amount of complex stuff in there, and potential legal implications if they said they designed it. But I'll agree with The Goth here, do we really want to associate with the buggers? I'm half tempted to see what they'd teach me though... :) hmmm .. whilst I don't know what their Perl skills are like I do know they are a generally clueful outfit .. ISTR one of the founders has his name on more than one UNIX book of repute ... -- Robin Szemeti Redpoint Consulting Limited Real Solutions For A Virtual World
Re: Training anyone ?
From: Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Barbie wrote: They probably could only get away with saying they maintain it due to the amount of complex stuff in there, and potential legal implications if they said they designed it. But I'll agree with The Goth here, do we really want to associate with the buggers? I'm half tempted to see what they'd teach me though... :) hmmm .. whilst I don't know what their Perl skills are like I do know they are a generally clueful outfit .. ISTR one of the founders has his name on more than one UNIX book of repute ... Richard, The Goth and I were referring to The Register not the GBDirect people. Barbie.
Re: www.gateway.gov.uk
Wednesday, June 13, 2001, 1:16:12 AM, Dave Cross wrote: DC On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 10:55:17PM -0500, Mike Jarvis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Larry speaks in a bit over 9 hours. Yippee! DC Actually - he doesn't :) DC http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=01/06/12/2255236 It all worked out ok. Daminan filled in, and was great as always. I would have liked to see Larry, but Damian's a great second choice. -- mike
Re: Training anyone ?
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Barbie [easynet] wrote: From: Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Barbie wrote: They probably could only get away with saying they maintain it due to the amount of complex stuff in there, and potential legal implications if they said they designed it. But I'll agree with The Goth here, do we really want to associate with the buggers? I'm half tempted to see what they'd teach me though... :) hmmm .. whilst I don't know what their Perl skills are like I do know they are a generally clueful outfit .. ISTR one of the founders has his name on more than one UNIX book of repute ... Richard, The Goth and I were referring to The Register not the GBDirect people. right .. got it .. I'll just keep quiet lest I put my foot in it ...again :) -- Robin Szemeti Redpoint Consulting Limited Real Solutions For A Virtual World
Re: [Possible Job] Perl, Linux
Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 07:44:11AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Are there any of you lot still looking for jobs? Still open? I think I might have someone for you. I was fishing on behalf of a client who may well need a perl linux person in the short to medium term. So, the answer's no for the moment although when the time's right it looks like there will be people. Does that make sense? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy