Re: Windows Perl - how?
You can find it at http://download.microsoft.com/download/platformsdk/wininst/1.1/W9X/EN-US/InstMsi.exe Andy We can go back to Dallas, November 22, 1963, stand on the grassy knoll and shout,DUCK!! On Thu, 31 May 2001, Mark Fowler wrote: So I'm using a windows computer to do some stuff. Which means I need a decent scripting language, that means I install perl. I head off to the activestate page and download the MSI for the latest build. My question is...how do I install this? I can't find the MSI installer anywhere on their site. I seem to remember downloading an .exe last week (which I no longer have and no longer seems to be where it was on thier site.) Are they randomly switching between MSI and .exe and haven't bothered to upload the installer when they switched back. 'elp! Mark. -- s'' Mark Fowler London.pm Bath.pm http://www.twoshortplanks.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ';use Term'Cap;$t=Tgetent Term'Cap{};print$t-Tputs(cl);for$w(split/ +/ ){for(0..30){$|=print$t-Tgoto(cm,$_,$y). $w;select$k,$k,$k,.03}$y+=2}
RE: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Cross David - dcross wrote: That's the one. And that _is_ very close to me. Dave... I'd move Andy
Re: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet
Walk down the road wearing a trench coat (preferably black), hat (again black for preference), dark glasses and carrying a video camera. add some form of protective clothing and a mini sattelite dish with leads dissappearing into a satchel for more fun Stopping every 20 to 30 yards and panning the camera around just adds to the effect. also do it every day at a different time, but make sure their is some form of pattern to your time, for instance make the number of minutes past 6 oclock equal to the prime series mod 60 Way too much thought has gone into this are you sure _you're_ not part of THE conspiracy!!! Andy
Email::Valid
Has any one used this module at all? I just tried it and got some wierd results!!! It though the following where VALID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tricad@dial,pipex.com [EMAIL PROTECTED],co.uk enquiries@peter-il;land.co.uk martyn@the,coot.freeserveco.uk shirleyhemes@.uk.com [EMAIL PROTECTED],co.uk 3jsolution@.21.com paula,[EMAIL PROTECTED] ian,[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] and that this was INVALID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've tried [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it works fine I've tried the one's above that claim to be VALID and they all fail. Anyone else had this problem? Andy Talkie Toaster: Given that God is infinite, and that the Universe is also infinite, would you like a toasted tea cake?
Re: Email::Valid
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Simon Wistow wrote: Andy Williams wrote: Has any one used this module at all? How does it match up against tchrist's stuff? All the one's that claimed to be valid from E::V failed chaddr! [EMAIL PROTECTED] had this result from chaddr: user: andyw. is good host: hillway.com is good address `[EMAIL PROTECTED]' is bad: rfc822 failure So I guess [EMAIL PROTECTED] is invalid even though it works wierd! Thanks Andy
Re: Email::Valid
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Andy Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: So I guess [EMAIL PROTECTED] is invalid even though it works wierd! its not the email address thats broken, its your SMTP server ;-) Could be right it's sendmail :( Andy
Re: Email::Valid
This man is not guilty of manslaughter, he is only guilty of being Arnold J. Rimmer. That is his crime... it is also his punishment. On Wed, 30 May 2001, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: snip You are correct in that these shouls all be invalid. Great. and that this was INVALID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is. Damn another snip Thanks for the RFC... I think! Be conservative in what you send and liberal in what you accept I will... Andy
Re: Email::Valid
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:56:56AM -0400, Andy Williams wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2001, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: snip You are correct in that these shouls all be invalid. Great. and that this was INVALID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is. Damn another snip Thanks for the RFC... I think! :) Be conservative in what you send and liberal in what you accept I will... Sorry, that wasn't to you, so much as why the mailer accepts it. It is something occasionally seen, mostly the people I've seen doing it are spammers, and should therefore die anyway. A quick test shows that SAUCE doesn't like it, although I'm going to have to file a bug report against SAUCE as it doesn't deal properly with quoting, it accepts the quoted version, though. :) Suprise, suprise... MS Exchange excepts it! Andy
Re: Buffy ..
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote: http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/uk/auction/51586918 Tempting very tempting. I bet the price goes up quite quickly now Andy
Re: BOFHs requiring license
At 17:38 13/05/2001, Simon Cozens wrote: On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 05:22:49PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: How can any socialist not feel that when it came to the crunch socialism was rejected by intelligent people who understood its principals and benefits intimitadly because they could see it would not work for modern Britain? Which intelligent people who understood it would that be, then? Take a look around you. This list, being representative of the Perl community, tends towards the intelligent end of the spectrum. And from what I've gathered from the conversations I've had with people here, the vast majority of us tend towards the left[1]. Dave... [1] Cue indignant emails from the half-dozen of so right-wingers I know on the list :) Yep... you can count me on that list... Andy (preparing for all the insults under the sun for being a tory!)
Re: BOFHs requiring license
Struan Donald wrote: Basically it went like this: As a telco you ahve to bid for this because if you don't get a 3G licence then you're fucked. So everyone who bids as high as they can. So whoever gets it is fucked anyway because they've got no money. 3G is all bollocks anyway. Just like everything else in the Mobile Phone industry. /rant And didn't the sell off screw the police over a bit as the replacement system they got can only handle voice communication and not data?? (Something like that anyway) Andy (Still a tory :)
Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Is this the point where I can try and recruit some of you compscis to the bioinformatics revolution? Hack around and cure cancer at the same time ;-) L. Been there, done that at the Sanger Centre hacking around with genes though... Andy
Re: Bioinformatics (was RE: Politics)
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote: On Mon, 14 May 2001, Andy Williams wrote: On Mon, 14 May 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Is this the point where I can try and recruit some of you compscis to the bioinformatics revolution? Hack around and cure cancer at the same time ;-) Been there, done that at the Sanger Centre hacking around with genes though... Why'd ya leave? OK, so the Sanger doesn't pay as much as industry, but it's a noble cause. L. You got it in one... just the money issue really an agency phoned me one day offering loads of wonga to go contracting... so I did. I'll go back to it when I've earnt enough/got so pissed of with marketing depts!! Andy
Ummm... Perl not professional??
Just looking for a good book on Email I can across the review for Programming Internet Email (Oreilly) by [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1565924797/o/qid=986555353/sr=8-1/026-4687583-3140411 Comments? Andy "Pub: ah, yes, a meeting place where people attempt to reach advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks"
[HELP] Traceroute
Hi, Can any one tell me what this traceroute actually means... it has me completely confused (not that difficult actually!!) traceroute 195.153.113.229 traceroute to 195.153.113.229 (195.153.113.229), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 chromium.pair.net (209.68.1.224) 1.814 ms 1.067 ms 0.569 ms 2 beauty.pair.net (192.168.1.2) 1.744 ms 1.472 ms 0.813 ms 3 POS3-2.GW3.PIT1.ALTER.NET (157.130.48.161) 1.003 ms 1.520 ms 1.621 ms 4 518.at-2-0-0.XR1.DCA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.36.250) 6.362 ms 6.487 ms 6.001 ms 5 295.at-7-1-0.XR1.DCA8.ALTER.NET (146.188.163.10) 7.885 ms 6.676 ms 8.041 ms 6 POS6-0.BR2.DCA8.ALTER.NET (152.63.35.189) 8.887 ms 8.094 ms 8.770 ms 7 204.6.140.117 (204.6.140.117) 7.447 ms 8.928 ms 8.285 ms 8 ne.peering.tier1.us.psi.net (154.13.2.34) 14.977 ms 13.005 ms 12.713 ms 9 204.6.134.154 (204.6.134.154) 87.708 ms 87.232 ms 86.990 ms 10 5-11-leaf-int.lf1.cityreach.uk.psi.net (154.32.11.5) 83.906 ms 83.318 ms 83.721 ms 11 * * * 12 * * * 13 * * * 14 * * * 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 * * * 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * * * 23 * * * 24 * * * 25 ci217.cityreach.uk.psi.net (154.32.30.217) 97.396 ms !X * * 26 ci217.cityreach.uk.psi.net (154.32.30.217) 95.940 ms !X * 94.271 ms !X TIA Andy "Sir, I beg you to reconsider. If not for your sanity, you haven't even considered the moral implications of your decision. You will be joining a society where you will be compelled to have sex with beautiful, brilliant women, twice daily, on demand. Now, am I really the only one here who finds that just a little bit tacky?"
Re:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Philip Newton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Unfortunately, while the disclaimer came out fine, my mailer (MS Outlook) displayed the real "body" (with your message) as an attachment. mutt displayed it as a uuencoded block of well uuencoding pine too... Andy
RE: archiving
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote: * Scientologists pay huge sums of money to buy "secrets" that are mirrored all over the internet. The "church" claims these are copyrighted and will do their best to close down any site carrying these. -- The information contained in this communication is ^^ confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are ^^^ hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or ^^^ copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Is it just me that finds your disclaimer really quite funny in context? :) Hey!!! That took the legal team at Acxiom (US) months to come upt with :) Andy (Acxiom Employee :()
Re: Legal Disclaimers on Email (was: Re: archiving)
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:56:27AM -0400, Andy Williams wrote: [snip] Hey!!! That took the legal team at Acxiom (US) months to come upt with :) And what do they know about UK law? Sweet FA I guess. I have pointed this out to our "management team", but I'm just a lowly perl hacker, what would I know. Andy
Re: Debuggers (was Re: Perl Training Courses)
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote: Oh, it's not me - it's the environment I'm currently working in. Dave... [not a Luddite] I can vouch for that REALLY bad environment!! Andy [Not a Luddite either]
Re: [Need] A Perl HTML to Text converter
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 08:07:39AM -0500, Andy Williams wrote: Does anyone know of a HTML to Text converter written in Perl? It'll need to be able to format tables!! I normally use lynx to do it but it doesn't handle tables very well :( It's not Perl, but try using w3m instead. It's a far superior text mode browser. Lynx is from the stone age. :-) http://www.w3m.org/ -Dom Thanks Dom, I'll give it a try. Andy
Re: Version control
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, David Cantrell wrote: There's been a bit of discussion about version control on the IRC channel. Summary of discussion: CVS and RCS both suck, they just suck in different ways, and subversion is vapourware which doesn't even promise to overcome the problems in CVS/RCS. But there are alternatives. Does anyone here have any comments on Perforce or Clearcase? Needless to say, both companies have crap websites with no useful documentation and a tonne of marketing arse. I've used Aegis and CVS in the past and like them both. CVS is used for all the code behind the Human Genome project loads of lines of code and loads of programmers... never seemed to cause a problem there. Andy
Re: Buffy/Angel
No problem. I should be able to bring it in Wednesday!. Andy "A superlative suggestion sir, with only two drawbacks: one, we don't have any defensive shields and two, we don't have any defensive shields. I know that, technically, that's only one drawback, but it was such a big one I thought I'd mention it twice" On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote: Bit of an off-topic begging letter this... I'm going out tonight and I forgot to set the video for Buffy Angel before leaving the house this evening. Is there any kind person out there who is videoing it and can let me borrow the tape at some point next week? Cheers, Dave...
Re: geek football
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Hamlet D'Arcy wrote: As an American in the audience of Quantum::Superpositions last night I have one question. What in the world is a 'geek football pool'? Geek: That would be us I guess!! Football: You probably know it as soccer. Pool: A list of games being played on a particular day that you can bet on the outcome. HTH Andy
Re: t-shirts
On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Michael Stevens wrote: We've been talking about t-shirts on irc, and I think we should try to get some ideas together[1]. Some thoughts to start you off: Hash Bang Perl Pony::Pony PIMB (we've done this one) ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US I saw a t-shirt the other week that just had "-w" on it thought it was quite cool. Not sure if it was a perl t-shirt though! Andy
CGI.pm Question
Hi, I know how to redirect using the GET method print $q-redirect("$url?$query_string"); but how do I do it for POST? TIA Andy "This sounds like a twelve-change-of-underwear trip."
Re: CGI.pm Question
You can't properly - I think there is a rant on : http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/www/ about this matter but I dont have the time to check the whole lot. The best way to achieve the effect is to use LWP to submit the request and then display the resulting output. This might answer: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/www/post-redirect.html Thanks Jonathon. It appears that it'll only work if all my users have Lynx 2.8.3. (I can dream I suppose.) Just added another page to the mix that auto submits on load, and that seems to work. Andy
Re: Sun's Perl was Re: Application servers and e-commerce platforms
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 10:35:45AM +, Steve Mynott wrote: I suspect things like SMP probably still work better. And if I were on call supporting a server I would probably still trust a Sparc running Solaris over some dodgy PC desktop with Redhat stuck on it by a hobbyist who has never used another UNIX. Multi processor Solaris runs rings around any of the free Unixes. They've had kernel threads for nearly 10 years, and it's very optimized. I suspect that SGIs IRIX is equally good, but I have no experience of that to speak from. Tru64 from Compaq isn't too shabby either... however they are expensive... probably get the same power to cost ratio with clustered Linux boxes on Intel!! Andy
Re: Sun's Perl was Re: Application servers and e-commerce platforms
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Michael Stevens wrote: Can't we compare something vaguely equivalent here instead? I personally would have just as little faith in Solaris run by someone who didn't know what they were doing as I would in Redhat run by someone who didn't know what they were doing. How about a decently built rack mount PC running Debian[1], by someone who actually knows how to setup that particular OS decently, as compared with a Sun box running Solaris setup by someone good with solaris? (And, myself, I'd recommend the PC for some situations, and the Solaris box for others). My main problem with the PC architecture is that you can do a lot by carefully picking a good manufacturer, but it's still fundamentally not as solid and consistent as sun stuff, IMHO. I imagine you could get a pc service contract on the same level as Sun do, but I have no experience in the area. Has anyone got any experience paying vast amounts of money for PC support? did you get much for your money? We are currently getting support for all our redhat boxes running on Compaq. Compaq offer 24x7, 2 hour response/4 hour fix on their intel boxes (at a price)... They also offer basic RedHat support. Redhat offer OS support for 625 UKP per server (9-6 Mon-Fri) RHCE Course is only 1500 UKP too. Andy
Directory Structures!
Hi, I'm having a mental block today, so my apologies in advance!! I'm using File::Find to recursively get all the files from a directory structure, then splitting each $File::Find::name into an array. What I need to do is put this into a data structure like: $dirstruct{"mydir"}-{dir1}-{dir2}-["A.A","B.B"] $dirstruct{"mydir"}-{dir1}-{dir3}-{dir4}-["C.C","D.D"] $dirstruct{"mydir"}-{dir4}-{dir5}-["E.E"] The directory listing would be: /dir1/dir2/A.A /dir1/dir2/B.B /dir1/dir3/dir4/C.C /dir1/dir3/dir4/D.D /dir4/dir5/E.E I know I've done this before, but I'll be damned if I can find it or remember how I did it. Please Help! TIA Andy "That's the metaphorical equivalent of flopping your wedding tackle into a lion's mouth and flicking his love spuds with a wet towel - total insanity"