RE: *Buffy's Not Included
From: Leo Lapworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] XML - do it because you need it, not because of the Buzz. Never was one for following the hype - just trying to work out if it's the right tool or not. Part of the problem is probably that I've heard snippets of what XML can do/is good for, and I've been given these requirements and now I'm trying to work out if its The Right Way or Not. XML is cool for handeling complex (or varied) data and sharing this info with others (but if CSV will do, then use that!). Not sure if CSV will handle it easily... I'd suggest it VERY much depends on why you want to use it, what is the ASCII data ? Basically it's the results from a spidering system. The results are put both into a db and these files (one file per day). The data will include a ranking score based on the search criteria, URI, document summary (which will include HTML snippets - although it may not be properly formed). There may also be some other data that needs to be saved. CSV is an option - except that an awful lot of the data will need to be escaped out before it goes into the file, and I would rather only have to do when its rendered out to the browser. I could produce my own file format from scratch - and write the tools to look after it... eg #URL#http://whatever.com #SCORE#0 #SUMMARY#'broken html'/a bugger/P Or I could use one of the XML modules to help me look after the files. The data from these files will primarily be diplayed within an HTML page. A perceived advantage of XML here (for someone who has barely scratched the surface of what XML can do), is the ability to (relatively) easily take the XML and spit it out to the browser - and yes I know it's never quite that simple. I'm also trying to future proof the system slightly - I think that by having the data XML based it may make it easier to use in new and wonderful ways in the future, without having to write all the tools from scratch. If it was worth putting the data into XML and you were worried about the speed of searching, you could always write a script (with one of the _many_ XML:: modules) to slurp keywords or whatever in from the XML so that you can search it in a DB and have that point to a file rather than trawling all the XML files for every search. Unfortunately I'm not allowed to make use of the database - it is a requirement that this particular functionality can cope with the db not actually being there. XML in a Nutshell is a very good book. I'll look it up Ta Rob --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
RE: *Buffy's Not Included
From: Philip Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Roger Burton West wrote: DBD::CSV is your friend. I second that. DBD::CSV is yum. Also handles escaping of double quotes or commas when inserting strings, etc. DBD:CSV seems to be popular and on reading the docs I can see why... ... did I mention that the powers that be want to ability to hand modify these files? And possibly by people who do not know what they are doing? That's part of the reason why I would rather not have to worry about escaping anything out in the data file itself - just in case somebody breaks it. Rob - paranoia's just a state of mind - --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
RE: downloady filenames
From: Robin Szemeti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 June 2001 03:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: downloady filenames ISTR somebody explaing the magic incantations you could put after Content-type: text/some-funny-application in order for the browser to try and save it as 'something.xyz' instead of 'scriptname.pl' .. enlighten me please as I have flushed my archive and lost it. http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/media-types/media-types has a list of the various MIME types that are out there. It will also point your towards the relevant RFC's. You may also need to use the Content-Encoding: enctype header depending on what your spitting out. Rob --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
RE: www.gateway.gov.uk
From: Chris Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Why, when the sun is shining (almost) and there is a popular (?) govt. do I feel like I did in early/mid 70's: like the end of the world was nigh? Hmm, not sure... but is the feeling helped buy having someone in the White House who has no real idea of foreign policy (and doesn't seem to care that much), and is sitting at his desk thinking (and I use the term advisedly) - 'I wonder what this big red button does...' No, I thought not. Rob --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
RE: www.gateway.gov.uk
From: Paul Makepeace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] PS -- that is one truly obnoxiously big sig. I apologise profusely for my employers lawyers need to avoid any form of litigation due to something that I may or may not say to the right or wrong person while sending an email which may or may not be on behalf of the company and therefor needs the sig from hell to disclaim anything that I may or may not have said within said email and basically saying that anything I did say wasn't said by me on behalf of the company or anybody else including myself and in fact you really should consider the email that you might have received to be totally empty and must destroy all traces of it but not until you've emailed me back to say that you may have received it possibly or not in error. Rob Maybe I should be a lawyer. Except, of course, I didn't say that. --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
RE: [PUB] Possible candidate
From: Greg McCarroll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Good Beer? Nice surroundings (beer garden in summer/open fire in winter)? Food that can be ate in bar? Lots of seating? Quiet (i.e. you can hear each other talk)? Central to ``business'' London? with this scale, Penderels scores 0,0,1,1,0.5,1 = 3.5 Anchor scores ... 1,1,0,1,0.5,0 = 3.5 There's The George and Dragon just south of London Bridge. Easily walkable from LB station or even the City (I used to go there a lot). Unfortunately I haven't been there for a while, but hopefully it's still as good as I remember. And there's and extra point if you can name the SF book it's mentioned in. Rob --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
RE: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet
From: Andy Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Thu, 31 May 2001, Cross David - dcross wrote: That's the one. And that _is_ very close to me. Dave... I'd move Andy Nah... Have some fun... Walk down the road wearing a trench coat (preferably black), hat (again black for preference), dark glasses and carrying a video camera. Stopping every 20 to 30 yards and panning the camera around just adds to the effect. Rob -- Sanity's for wooses -- --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
RE: SQL statements to DB Schema (dia ?)
From: Greg Cope [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I have no DB schema, and as such could dump the SQL schema (via mysqldump) - and I was wondering if there was a super thing that could translate the create table stuff into a diagram I could print, and then look at If this worked on Linux and involved perl and Dia then it would be fab. Unfortunately not Linux... but a MS-Win program call Dezign (IIRC) does this. http://www.datanamic.com/ Rob --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
RE: FMD (was Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-05-21)
From: will Of course we could just build a super-gun (a-la iraq) and shoot bloated carcasses at Redmond. This is my favouite idea. Pigs In Space Rob --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
RE: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?
I don't know if you are parsing mail or something else, Isolated file. If you are trying to figure it out magically based on just the file format or filename or something (e.g. just pointing it at a raw jpeg) I didn't think MIME:: would help. Unfortunately I have to rely on the standard install of ActivePerl and didn't want to make assumptions based on the extension type of the file. Never mind, I will have to investigate further for future use. Thanks for the help. Open up the file, read in the first few bytes and grab the magic number. Most types of binary file have a marker of some kind to designate what they are. Any half decent book on graphics programming should be able to tell you what the magic numbers are for the main graphics types. You can also use this technique to scan hdd's for for files where the file extension has been changed to 'hide it'. I had to look up the numbers a while ago for some software that performed said scan. It's possible I've still got them somewhere... if I have, I'll let you know (or point you in the right direction). Rob --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
RE: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?
From: Roger Burton West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] man 1 file man 5 magic less /usr/share/misc/magic # on many systems except anything written my MS of course... Rob --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
RE: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?
This site contains info about the raw file formats of numerous graphic types, including sig/header block formats. All useful for anyone wanting to play with graphics. http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/~mxr/gfx/ Rob --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
RE: Buffy ...
From: Philip Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Cross David - dcross wrote: Oh, and there's a picture of the whole cast, just signed by SMG tho' at http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/uk/auction/51612812. I suppose at this point, grep will wonder why the Bufster uses her fake name when signing pictures. To maintain the illusion --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
RE: streaming output
From: Philip Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] At a guess: Content-Encoding: gzip instead. Thanks, I'll give that a try. I've had a look at the relevant rfc's. Which ones? RFC 2616 (HTTP/1.1) mentions gzip not x-gzip under 3.5 Content Codings and 3.6 Transfer Codings. I was looking at RFC's 2045 2046 which relate directly to MIME. That's where the Content-Type and Content-Transfer-Encoding headers are talked about. Rob --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
RE: streaming output
From: Philip Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] At a guess: Content-Encoding: gzip instead. Yep that worked, thanks Rob - I must memorise rfc's I must memorise rfc's I must memorise rfc's --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
RE: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)
From: Robin Houston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Do you think it's possible to take XP too far? *Too* extreme? Sure it is. Having two people look at/develop a piece of code is better than one. Therefore having three people must be even better. But why stop there - why not four, five, six . . . Better yet - design/develop by committee! Rob --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
RE: BOFHs requiring license
Swapping 'selected by Tony Blair after consultation with his own sycophantic smile' for hereditary strikes me as pretty stupid, corrupt and evil. Cough. It's called confirming and strengthening your own powerbase while undermining that of your opponent. If we're not careful we'll end up in the situation where the TB has such a strong powerbase that he'll be able to push through pretty much anything he wants, riding roughshod over the the views/opinions etc of those who elected him in the first place. Once it gets to that stage it's effectively a dictatorship. Rob (preparing to be chargrilled as a democratic heretic) --- New Labour! We're the friend of business!! We wont raise taxes!! We will reduce bureaucracy!! --- --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
RE: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)
This is why we should abolish democracy. We need a benevolent dictator. Obviously we can't vote for our dictator (not only is democracy too flawed, but then it wouldn't be a dictator either) so I hereby appoint myself. Why not? The Romans did. The title of Imperator and Dictator were bestowed by the Senate. I appoint Greg as my Culture Adviser and as head of the church. Any volunteers for my other minions? Even if you don't want a cabinet post, please feel free to volunteer as a Henchman. You'll get 25 days holiday a year, a nice uniform and a free Hench. Hmm, seen this somewhere before... http://www.ruthless-world-domination.com Rob - Pinky - So what are we doing today Brain? Brain - We're going to take over the world Pinky Pinky - Oh not again... - --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
RE: Monitors
How many things do you have on top of your monitor? Currently none. But at Torrington I had 8 items ( I think ) including marzipan models of Bagpuss (complete with Organ Mouse) and Tux. They have yet to migrate to my job. Rob --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
RE: sing if you're happy that way
Chris Has Own Perl Syntax --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
