Re: (Don't Laugh) Buying PGP
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 02:03:33PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Obviously, from the bottom line this is a bit of a no-brainer. But this leaves us having to copy files over to a PC, unencrypt them, and copy them back to the Unix machine. Which I'd like to avoid. Wouldn't be so bad if you're using Samba to share the Unix files. -- rob partington % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://browser.org/
Re: (Don't Laugh) Buying PGP
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, you wrote: PGP isn't free for commerical use. You're supposed to buy a license. When our purchasing department here approached NAI to buy one, they were told the the Unix (server) version was £27,000 and the Windows version was £657. Obviously, from the bottom line this is a bit of a no-brainer. But this leaves us having to copy files over to a PC, unencrypt them, and copy them back to the Unix machine. Which I'd like to avoid. Has anyone else had experience buying PGP? Do those prices sound sane to you? Dave... p.s. And don't suggest GPG. That's been ruled out by the PTBs for reasons that I may well rant on tonight. umm ... since a) gpg with the gpgpgp ( or is it pgpgpg?) wrapper seem (in my application at least, to perform the same task with the same commands on pgp encrypted messages, and b) its not your money, then I'd tell em to stump up the cash and pay for it. Sadly I won't be there to hear your rant ... but I can guess the general idea ;) actually with the recent departure of Phil Zimmerman from NAI and his 'I can guarntee you that there is no back door in the products ... up to this date' speech and NAI stating it won't release source code for future versions I'm surprised you'd actually want to use pgp instead of gpg .. but hey .. you said 'And don't suggest GPG' so I wont ;)) -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
RE: (Don't Laugh) Buying PGP
From: Rob Partington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 2:22 PM On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 02:03:33PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Obviously, from the bottom line this is a bit of a no-brainer. But this leaves us having to copy files over to a PC, unencrypt them, and copy them back to the Unix machine. Which I'd like to avoid. Wouldn't be so bad if you're using Samba to share the Unix files. Hah! If I can't get them to use GPG, I have _no_ chance with Samba. The Unix box in question is running AIX. Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: (Don't Laugh) Buying PGP
dcross - David Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PGP isn't free for commerical use. You're supposed to buy a license. When our purchasing department here approached NAI to buy one, they were told the the Unix (server) version was 27,000 and the Windows version was 657. Stick it on a Win2K box. Stick ActivePerl, PerlScript and IIS on there. Write a PerlISAPI (or whatever the IIS equivalent of that is) script to accept a file and pass phrase over an SSL link and return (over the SSL link) the unencrypted file. On the Unix side, write your funky commandline script to use the IIS box as an RPC server via IIS/SOAP/whatever. For bonus points, write it so that it's commandline equivalent to PGP and will just drop in as a replacement... Thumb your nose at NAI. Sorted. -- Piers
Re: (Don't Laugh) Buying PGP
dcross - David Cross wrote: Hah! If I can't get them to use GPG, I have _no_ chance with Samba. Why? Because it's open software (or whatever they call themselves)? Can't you call it an "Enterprise cross-platform file sharing solution" or something like that? And get a company to support it? Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Re: (Don't Laugh) Buying PGP
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 05:12:57PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Can't you call it an "Enterprise cross-platform file sharing solution" or something like that? So is Napster. -- DEC diagnostics would run on a dead whale. -- Mel Ferentz
RE: (Don't Laugh) Buying PGP
Bull have a web site with ready compiled samba binaries for AIX - just say it comes from an AIX manufacturer... -Original Message- From: dcross - David Cross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 April 2001 14:27 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: (Don't Laugh) Buying PGP From: Rob Partington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 2:22 PM On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 02:03:33PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Obviously, from the bottom line this is a bit of a no-brainer. But this leaves us having to copy files over to a PC, unencrypt them, and copy them back to the Unix machine. Which I'd like to avoid. Wouldn't be so bad if you're using Samba to share the Unix files. Hah! If I can't get them to use GPG, I have _no_ chance with Samba. The Unix box in question is running AIX. Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: (Don't Laugh) Buying PGP
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 02:26:54PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Hah! If I can't get them to use GPG, I have _no_ chance with Samba. The Unix box in question is running AIX. *Cough* several IBM people I've spoken to believe that IBM's FastConnect(tm) "PC integration software for AIX" or whatever, *is* SAMBA ... and IBM were listed as supporters on the 2.x release notes this week ... (an the "IBM HTTP server" is Apache ...). I wouldn't know because we've just mke2fs'd the last FAT filesystem in the company :-) -- Chris Benson
Re: (Don't Laugh) Buying PGP
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Chris Benson wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 02:26:54PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Hah! If I can't get them to use GPG, I have _no_ chance with Samba. The Unix box in question is running AIX. *Cough* several IBM people I've spoken to believe that IBM's FastConnect(tm) "PC integration software for AIX" or whatever, *is* SAMBA ... and IBM were listed as supporters on the 2.x release notes this week ... (an the "IBM HTTP server" is Apache ...). I have a supsicion that SCO's 'VisionFS' is the same deal - or rather it is a re-engineering of SMB or CIFS or whatever they want to call it ... /J\
