London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-09
This is the twelth of hopefully many weekly summaries of the London Perl Mongers mailing list. For the week starting 2001-04-09: Don't forget the London.pm website for meetings etc. The next meeting is a technical meeting and is on Thursday April 19th at State 51: http://london.pm.org/ Neil Ford obviously gets too much mail as he asked about scripts to help with breaking up mailbox files. Jonathan Stowe mentioned Graham Barr's mailtools, and Simon Cozens plugged his excellent Mail::Audit: http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04055.html http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=MailTools http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=Mail-Audit Andy Williams confused us all with traceroute, until we read the manpage that is. Dominic Mitchell recommended "TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 1: The Protocols", which is excellent indeed: http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04094.html http://www.kohala.com/start/tcpipiv1.html Amongst a HTML- and uuencoded-email fest, Dominic Mitchell and Merijn Broeren gave mutt and mailcap tips for viewing HTML emails: http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg03987.html http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04140.html http://www.mutt.org/ The social meeting last week was a lot of fun, if a little crazy. However, we really need to start organising the meetings (hey, even Lonix is more organised!), as it was too loud and crowded: http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04134.html http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04145.html Robert Shields asked about copyright and licenses for his Perl code, which launched into the typical "GPL evil", "BSD good", "but GPL gives back" , "write your own license", "GPL is unenforcable" thread. Generally Perl code is distributed under the sames terms as Perl itself, that is dual GPL and AL: http://www.opensource.org/ http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html http://language.perl.com/misc/Artistic.html Aaron Trevena announced a piece of Perl which creates UML class diagrams showing relationshiops, methods, attributes, etc for a bunch of scripts/modules so that you can edit them with dia: http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04227.html http://www.gnome.org/gnome-office/dia.shtml Dean Wilson asked about Perl on HPUX and the error: 'syntax error in file p2.pl at line 2, next 2 tokens "use strict"'. This is a clear case of Perl 4 being installed when you expected Perl 5. There's been some talk on how Perl 6 might avoid this mess: http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04231.html Dave Cantrell announced that he had uploaded Tie::Scalar::Decay to CPAN, which simulates radioactive decay with a fairly arbitrary half-life of five seconds. Anyone want some PDP-11s? http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=Tie-Scalar-Decay http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04250.html http://www.telnet.hu/hamster/pdp-11/ And finally, Simon Cozens reckons Italy is very far for antipasti, Paul Makepeace finds truth in Duke Nukem, and Jonathan Stowe brings some poetry to the list: http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04131.html http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04171.html http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04033.html Note that you can now subscribe just to this summary, if you don't want the hassle of tons of london-list mail but still want to keep up: http://www.astray.com/mailman/listinfo/london-list-summary I'm away snowboarding next week (well, okay, hurting myself trying out all those moves I pulled off in SSX) so Simon Wistow will take over the summary and hopefully do another wonderful job ;-), Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/ ... Squeeze
RE: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-09
From: Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 1:00 PM The social meeting last week was a lot of fun, if a little crazy. However, we really need to start organising the meetings (hey, even Lonix is more organised!), as it was too loud and crowded: Not sure I like the idea of 'organised' social meetings. Sounds a bit too 'SPUG' to me. However, I'm quite happy to listen to any alternative opinions. Note that you can now subscribe just to this summary, if you don't want the hassle of tons of london-list mail but still want to keep up: http://www.astray.com/mailman/listinfo/london-list-summary Have you submitted this to the Perl mailing lists list at http://lists.perl.org? Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-09
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 01:00:16PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: crazy. However, we really need to start organising the meetings (hey, even Lonix is more organised!), as it was too loud and crowded: You have a weird idea of organized ;) We tried to get 60 people into 30 places... Dean -- Profanity is the one language all programmers understand --- Anon
RE: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-09
From: Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 2:39 PM dcross - David Cross sent the following bits through the ether: Not sure I like the idea of 'organised' social meetings. Sounds a bit too 'SPUG' to me. However, I'm quite happy to listen to any alternative opinions. Well, we *could* have a formal agenda for the social meeting, starting off my voting in the new social meeting committee, and voting for how many beers we will drink in the first hour (and what muffins to supply)... BUT: :) We have to book a room. Not doing so is silly, considering 30 or so people turned up and we only had one table. I blame mstevens ;-) Where will the next social be? Book the room now! Booking a room is a good idea, but whenever we've tried this before pubs have been loathe to give space to such a small group. David Cantrell once wasted most of an afternoon calling pubs. If anyone has any suggestions for venues that would allow us to book a room, please let us know. If anyone wants to volunteer to try to organise this for next month then I'm sure we'll all be very grateful. Blaming mstevens is a good idea too. He's gone very quiet. I reckon he's embarassed :) Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-09
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 01:17:37PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: From: Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 1:00 PM The social meeting last week was a lot of fun, if a little crazy. However, we really need to start organising the meetings (hey, even Lonix is more organised!), as it was too loud and crowded: Not sure I like the idea of 'organised' social meetings. Sounds a bit too 'SPUG' to me. However, I'm quite happy to listen to any alternative opinions. SPUG don't have organised social meetings, every meeting is a technical meeting. I think what Leon was refering to, was getting organised of finding a good reliable venue. Neil. -- Neil C. Ford Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.yacsc.com
