Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu games

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

A quick thought, a friend long ago requested that card games not be added to my 
remaster of knoppix, as there is some link to gambling. His religion is against 
gambling. It probably is not a big deal for many of us. But I think it wouldn't 
hurt to leave out card games.



- Original Message 
> From: Jo Gerb 
> To: Javier Mora 
> Cc: Lubuntu 
> Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 6:30:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu games
> 
> Hm, I think that the completeness of lubuntu is quite important. We also aim 
> at 
> people who own an old computer and just want to write some letters and 
> emails. 
> Of course it's no problem for us to install games to our pc with lubuntu, but 
> these people won't know how to do that. They will look for a 'games' section 
> in 
> the menu, and because there isn't such a section they will think that there 
> are 
> no games for lubuntu. Ok, there are hundreds of great games in the repos, but 
> what if the users who never really worked with a pc won't ever look in the 
> repos 
> or even install something from there?
We don't need many games. We already 
> had the topic, I think we agreed on one tetrisclone (tint?) one game with 
> cards 
> and maybe also xinv3d. They are lightweight, have no dependencies and are 
> just 
> some kb afaik. The people who use lubuntu for a server know how to remove the 
> games if they don't want them, but many others wouldn't know how to add them 
> if 
> we didn't include them in the final distro. So in my opinion it's clear: two 
> or 
> three little games and everone will be happy :-)

Best 
> regards,
Jo

Am 02.05.2010 um 11:53 schrieb Javier Mora <
> ymailto="mailto:cousteaulecommand...@gmail.com"; 
> href="mailto:cousteaulecommand...@gmail.com";>cousteaulecommand...@gmail.com>:

> 
> I think that games are a very personal thing. One should have the games he 
> likes 
> (for example, I installed Extreme Tux Racer and Wormux), not a set of 
> pre-defined games that he may or may not like. And since Lubuntu aims for 
> low-end machines, servers in which the owner wants a graphic environment, and 
> the like, maybe we should let the user what games he wants or doesn't 
> want.
> 
> Goh Lip escribió:
>> A small suggestion, checked 
> out the forum and understand the
>> considerations for and against 
> having default games installed viz...
>> o not too 'weighty' to weigh 
> down the lubuntu distro
>> o need to have some games to show 
> 'completeness' of lubuntu.
>> May I suggest fltk1.1-games as a 
> pre-installed game base?
>> It is small, quite fun to play? (I don't 
> really know, not a games type
>> of guy), but at least, it's 
> something.
>> Regards- Goh Lip
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation and the 'dreaded' day

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

My apologies. It seems that I have missed out some bits of the discussion as I 
comb through my mails from the newest to the oldest. Ignore my last mail.



- Original Message 
> From: Luther Goh Lu Feng 
> To: Phillip Whiteside ; Julien Lavergne 
> Cc: lubuntu-desktop 
> Sent: Wed, April 21, 2010 11:45:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation and the 'dreaded' day
> 
> 
> Hi  Phillip,

>Could you kindly elaborate what you meant by "minimal iso with 
> lubuntu"? 


  

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation and the 'dreaded' day

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

>
>From: Phillip Whiteside 
>To: Julien Lavergne 
>Cc: lubuntu-desktop 
>Sent: Wed, April 21, 2010 7:51:37 AM
>Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation and the 'dreaded' day
>
>Yes, I know all the above is dead boring, but we're going to have n00bs hit 
>lubuntu & they are going to need their hands holding.
>
>I'm having a chat with a couple of people regarding how to make a minimal iso 
>with lubuntu on, but with the onset of 10.04 release they're a bit busy.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>
>Phill.

Hi Phillip,

Could you kindly elaborate what you meant by "minimal iso with lubuntu"? 



  

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

I think it is alright to do a release after Ubuntu. In fact, there is a small 
advantage to do so. We avoid all the "noise" from Ubuntu in the the other 
websites and blogs.




- Original Message 
> From: PCMan 
> To: lubuntu-desktop 
> Sent: Sun, April 11, 2010 5:48:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
> 
> OK, maybe some press release will be good.
BTW, several minutes ago, a bug in 
> libfm causing crashes was fixed by Eugene.
Please update again. 
> :-)
Actually you can try to do daily build from git since it's updated very 
> often.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Julien Lavergne <
> ymailto="mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com"; 
> href="mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com";>gi...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> Le 
> dimanche 11 avril 2010 à 16:15 +0800, PCMan a écrit :
>> Ubuntu beta 2 
> just came out.
>> So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
> 
> Today I hope :)
>
>> Before releasing beta 2, please get the 
> hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from
>> git since there are some important 
> fixes.
> Already done :)
>
>> It's a pity that Lubuntu 
> didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but
>> we'll be ready at the time 
> of 10.10.
> This will not stop us to do a release :)
> I plan to do 
> a mail after the beta2 about the last news on Lubuntu, the
> state of the 
> project etc ... So everyones will be up-to-date.
>
> 
> Regards,
> Julien 
> Lavergne
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] new logo

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

+1 for the first one, too.


- Original Message 
> From: PCMan 
> To: Glen Bizeau 
> Cc: "lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net" 
> 
> Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 9:26:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] new logo
> 
> +1 for the first one, too.
> 
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Glen Bizeau wrote:
> > +1 for first one too.
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Jo Gerb wrote:
> >> I'm the only one for 2? Ok, then I change my mind. That makes it easier for
> >> the artwork-team.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Jo
> >>
> >> Am 07.03.2010 um 03:14 schrieb Henrique P. Machado :
> >>
> >>> +1 for 1st one
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Henrique P Machado
> >>> ZehRique
> >>>
> >>> zehri...@ubuntu.com
> >>> hpmach...@gnome.org
> >>> OpenPGP Keys: 0CE49BAA
> >>>
> >>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] package suggestions (and missings)

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

Btw I just saw gnome-vlc

https://launchpad.net/gnome-vlc

I haven't got time to prod it further It seems to be a day old. If it is 
light enough we should KIV it for future releases. 



- Original Message 
> From: Julien Lavergne 
> To: 神癒礁湖 
> Cc: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
> Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 6:01:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] package suggestions (and missings)
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Default applications are discussed on separate threads on the mailing
> list, and specific wiki pages. 
> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications and
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications/Process%20Documentation
> 
> Le jeudi 28 janvier 2010 à 20:57 +0100, 神癒礁湖 a écrit :
> > cups (it cannot print!)
> Fixed for the next alpha.
> 
> > osd-notify
> It needs composite manager to be really usefull, and openbox is not a
> composite manager. Also, having composite support is not really a
> priority, it increases needed ressources, and support is not perfect,
> especially with old hardware.
> 
> > gnome-app-install
> It's already deprecated in favor of software-center. However, we already
> have synaptic to install packages and new programs.
> 
> > brasero (xfburn doesn't burn in some LGs)
> Too much GNOME depends.
> 
> > charmap
> Java depends, and I don't think it's crucial enough to include it.
> 
> > gthumb (there's no photo manager)
> > mirage (light and has no dependencies)
> We have already an image manager : GPicView.
> 
> > midori (instead of firefox, so we don't use Thunderbird as well)
> Discussion about the browser will begin soon :)
> 
> > bittransmission-gui
> We already use transmission.
> 
> > gnome-mplayer (instead of smplayer, no QT libraries)
> Discussion : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications/Video
> 
> > listen or audacious (insted of the ugly and difficult aqualung)
> Discussion : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications/MusicAndAudio
> 
> > update-manager-core (but there're package conflicts)
> Already installed on Alpha 2
> 
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
> 
> 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Email client choice

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

I think there may still be use cases for email clients. For example, my less 
tech savvy colleagues access their company email via Microsoft Outlook. For me, 
I just redirect it to my main email account.


>
>From: Yotam Medini יותם מדיני 
>To: Mario Behling 
>Cc: lubuntu-desktop 
>Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 6:28:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Email client choice
>
>
>With my GMail account, I use both GMail's web-ui, but I also use local 
>mail-client via IMAP4.
>I use the latter, in the following cases:
>+ Hebrew text editing (right-to-left)
>+ Discussing and quoting programming code.
>>   For this I like to even use external EDITOR (emacsclient).
>+ Attaching several files - which is faster in local client, than a 
>safety-paranoid web-browser.
>
>-- yotam
>
>
>On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Mario Behling  wrote:
>
>Hi,
>>
I was also thinking a few days ago about the need for inclusion of a
mail client. These days I hardly know anyone using mail clients. Many
non-expert users prefer to use webmail. Secondly many power users also
use webmail or even a remote server desktop in order to keep their
data in one place and easily available even if they change devices.
>>
What do you think about it, Julien?
>>
Ciao Mario
>>
>>
>>


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Email client choice

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

- Original Message 

> From: Julien Lavergne 
> To: lubuntu-desktop 
> Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 2:50:43 AM
> Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] Email client choice
>  
> Just a note, the current version on Karmic lack spell-checking feature
> but this was fixed on Lucid, so don't use this argument :)
> 

Which email client are you referring to here? Btw no vote from me since I just 
check all my mails via the web.


  

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: lubuntu development model - Seeds vs UCK

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

For anyone interested in creating the builds, you may wish to refer to the 
forwarded email.



- Forwarded Message 
> From: Mario Behling 
> To: Lubuntu 
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 6:00:54 AM
> Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu development model - Seeds vs UCK
> 
> Hello,
> 
> we had a talk among different people about a good model for building
> the lubuntu distribution. A sustainable model suggested by some is the
> Seed model practiced by the Xubuntu developers.
> 
> There are solutions like Ubuntu Customization Kid
> (http://uck.sourceforge.net´) and Reconstructor
> (http://reconstructor.aperantis.com) out there. However, they have
> some drawbacks and I am not sure how we can build a model to include
> different people in the process.
> 
> I see the seeds model as a viable way to make lubuntu sustainable.
> There is a wiki page on the kubuntu wiki with more information:
> 
> Seeds are the lists of packages we want to include in the
> distribution. The minimal, boot, standard, desktop, and either ship or
> live seeds go onto our CDs. Xubuntu seeds, being built on top of
> Ubuntu, inherit a shared set of seeds called the "platform" seeds.
> These platform seeds are maintained by Ubuntu Core Developers whereas
> the Xubuntu seeds are primarily taken care of by Xubuntu developers.
> Xubuntu seeds (as with all Ubuntu flavors) manage their seeds using
> the bazaar revision control system and host them on launchpad (build
> scripts pull the official seeds to build the cd).
> (https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Xubuntu/Development/Build)
> 
> More information on Seed Management here
> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SeedManagement.
> 
> What do you think about it?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Mario
> 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

Just in case, there was any miscommunication, the list just contain possible 
candidates for the application category. For instance, in the web browser 
category, we have midori, epiphany, firefox, kazhakase and some others. But we 
will only choose one, and based on the meetings, we have chosen Firefox for 
functionality and usability reasons. Unfortunately, the meeting members haven't 
gotten around to updating the decision on the choice of applications. It's 
pretty much buried in the logs now AFAIK.

Maybe Mario can give some input as to how we should progress with regards to 
the decision on applications?


>
>From: Ed Hewitt 
>To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
>Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 1:54:04 AM
>Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)
>
>I too have the same opinion and in the same situation as Glen. I have missed 
>out on the meetings, since only being involved in Lubuntu since yesterday. I 
>have looked at the applications list and there is too many, Lubuntu could end 
>up too heavy. This is one of the reasons I sent my first email off in the 
>mailing lists.
>
>
>2009/7/1 Glen Bizeau 
>
>>>Wow,
>>
>>>>I just went through the list if apps, Thats a lot of stuff...
>>
>>>>Personally, I think it should be lighter than this, but I guess thats
>>>>what I get for missing the IRC meeting :)
>>
>>>>Will we have a chance to vote on these things? or do the IRC meetings
>>>>denote final say?
>>
>>>>Glen
>>
>>>>On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Luther Goh Lu Feng wrote:
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> Good to see the sudden spike in mailing list activity. I definitely need
>>>>> time to follow the threads.
>>>>>
>>>>> For those unaware, we have had 3 IRC meetings to discuss the goals and
>>>>> applications of Lubuntu. The logs are at
>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings. The objective of the 
>>>>> meeting
>>>>> was to narrow down the list of applications, and also to decide the goals 
>>>>> of
>>>>> Lubuntu I urge patience to go through the logs to understand what has
>>>>> transpired so far.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe the goals of Lubuntu that was decided during that meeting is 
>>>>> that
>>>>> Lubuntu will be a lightweight distro with appropriate functionality and
>>>>> usability. (Yes, I know that functionality and usability have subjective
>>>>> meaning).
>>>>>
>>>>> The list of applications at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications 
>>>>> are
>>>>> just a list of applications we will choose for inclusion. Generally, only
>>>>> one will be included from each application category.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the meeting, members have decided to include Firefox, OpenOffice.org, 
>>>>> VLC
>>>>> I am not sure if there will be changes following the discussion on the
>>>>> mailing list. Perhaps this can be discussed in the next IRC meeting?
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Ed Hewitt 
>>>>> To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:13:47 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy &
>>>>> Slow)
>>>>>
>>>>> I would say LXDE is lighter than Xfce, the LXDE developers seem to think 
>>>>> so.
>>>>> I think 64mb Minimum is enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/6/30 Andrew Woodhead 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://wiki.xfce.org/minimum_requirements
>>>>>>
>>>>>> May help to guide
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd say 300Mhz CPU + 192Mb RAM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 3:50 PM, jon york  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good point ed,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> we are forgetting our requirements, and getting head of ourselves.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so now that we are mostly agreed on being small and lightweight, what
>>>>>>> will be the minimum and recommended specs?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jon York
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>&

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

Hi everyone,

Good to see the sudden spike in mailing list activity. I definitely need time 
to follow the threads.

For those unaware, we have had 3 IRC meetings to discuss the goals and 
applications of Lubuntu. The logs are at 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings. The objective of the meeting 
was to narrow down the list of applications, and also to decide the goals of 
Lubuntu I urge patience to go through the logs to understand what has 
transpired so far.

I believe the goals of Lubuntu that was decided during that meeting is
that Lubuntu will be a lightweight distro with appropriate
functionality and usability. (Yes, I know that functionality and
usability have subjective meaning).

The list of applications at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications are 
just a list of applications we will choose for inclusion. Generally, only one 
will be included from each application category.

At the meeting, members have decided to include Firefox,
OpenOffice.org, VLC I am not sure if there will be changes following the
discussion on the mailing list. Perhaps this can be discussed in the
next IRC meeting?


>
>From: Ed Hewitt 
>To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
>Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:13:47 PM
>Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)
>
>>I would say LXDE is lighter than Xfce, the LXDE developers seem to think so. 
>>I think 64mb Minimum is enough.
>
>
>2009/6/30 Andrew Woodhead 
>
>http://wiki.xfce.org/minimum_requirements
>>
>>May help to guide
>>
>>I'd say 300Mhz CPU + 192Mb RAM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 3:50 PM, jon york  wrote:
>>
>Good point ed, 
>>>
>>>we are forgetting our requirements, and getting head of ourselves.
>>>
>>>so now that we are mostly agreed on being small and lightweight, what will 
>>>be the minimum and recommended specs?
>>>
>>>Jon York
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:07:11 +0100
>>>From: edwardahew...@googlemail.com
>>>To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
>>
>>>Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)
>>>
>>>I believe its a bad idea having different versions of Lubuntu, having 
>>>different meta packages of Lubuntu is not what lubutnu needs. Its all about 
>>>lightweight distro. The Ubuntu guidelines requires the distro to have one 
>>>build, lubuntu-desktop.
>>>
>>>All we need to do is make sure that this single meta package is bundled with 
>>>a few lightweight apps for the end user to require out of the box which 
>>>works well with the LXDE environment.
>>>
>>>-- 
>>>www.edhewitt.co.uk
>>>
>>>
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>
>
>-- 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu wiki revision ready for review

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

--- On Wed, 5/27/09, C David Rigby  wrote:

> From: C David Rigby 
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu wiki revision ready for review
> To: "Lubuntu Project" 
> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 8:10 AM
> On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 13:47 +0100,
> Mario Behling wrote:
> > Dear David,
> > 
> > thanks a lot. It looks great.
> > 
> > I think, we could replace it immediately. It is not
> such a big
> > decision, I believe. If anyone objects or would like
> to change, please
> > tell us.
> > 
> > As the active team is still relatively small - just
> one question
> > concerning Subteams. Do we need already an extra page
> for each subteam
> > at this point? It might be still ok at this point to
> have the teams
> > and tasks still in one page. There are always pros and
> cons (I know
> > them). Just decide what seems best to you now. I dont
> see a special
> > need for an extra translations team at that point, as
> LXDE has its own
> > translation project.
> > 
> > Thanks again for the set up.
> > 
> > Please switch to it.
> > 
> > All the best,
> > 
> > Mario
> > 
> 
> OK - I will switch it over.
> 
> Cheers
> CDR
> > 

Hi David,

I have taken the liberty to synchronise the recent changes to 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ at 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/LubuntuFirstBis

Please check that everything is in order before switching 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/LubuntuFirstBis over.



Cheers,

Luther


  

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu - minimal install or full featured lightweight distro

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

- Original Message 
> From: Mario Behling 
> To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:20:12 PM
> Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu - minimal install or full featured 
> lightweight distro
> 
> 
> The question of lubuntu is:
> 1. Either we want to make it a minimal install or
> 2. we want to make it a lightweight alternative to full featured distros.
> I vouch for the second.
> 

I vote for #2. I always feel that it is a waste if the full 700MB of a cd is 
not even 50% used.



  

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Lubuntu.org website

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

Forwarded for information.



- Forwarded Message 
> From: Mario Behling 
> To: Luther Goh Lu Feng 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 2:31:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.org website
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Luther Goh Lu Feng wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I understand that Mario has registered lubuntu.org. Does anyone have any 
> updates to the plans for the site? ie hosting, forums, wiki, blog etc?
> 
> Lets keep the infrastructure of Ubuntu and let us concentrate on the
> work on the system. We can use the wiki, forum etc. of ubuntu and
> lxde.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Mario
> 
> 
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Luther
> >
> > PS. #lubu...@freenode has been registered by hyperair. So feel free to 
> > start 
> dropping in :)
> >



  

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Relevant article: Ubuntu and it's derivatives

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

Hi folks,

I just came across this article, that I thought was a good read.

http://celettu.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/xubuntu-904-wheres-the-beef/

Perhaps we should keep these opinions in mind for Lubuntu. One feature I can 
think of in Ubuntu that we may wish to have is asian language support 
scanner/printer support... Any others?


Cheers, 

Luther



  

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Going to make base testing ISO

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

Hi all,

I have contributed Dave's list to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu, along with 
some of my personal suggestions and comments. I believe that we are looking for 
light applications with gtk as the primary dependency.

I am not extremely knowledgeable about the applications, so do point out if I 
have made an unsuitable suggestion. I am unfamiliar with the wiki Ubuntu uses, 
so I have no idea where to put the discussion. So I have put it as a bullet 
point under the relevant application.

I added a few application suggestions. Proimnent ones inclue a calculator and a 
cd burner software. 


Hope to see you guys in #lubuntu @freenode.


Cheers,

Luther

- Original Message 
> From: Mario Behling 
> To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 2:02:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Going to make base testing ISO
> 
> Hello,
> 
> thanks for the list. Sounds very good to start with.
> 
> Should we use the Ubuntu-Wiki for gathering this information as well?
> I started this wiki page a while ago: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LXDE and
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
> 
> We can have a bullet point for applications in the ISO.
> 
> I am looking forward to the image.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Mario
> 
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:05 AM, dave slaughter
> wrote:
> > As I was discussing with Luther, I am going to start working on a base
> > "Lubuntu" test ISO as soon as soon as the Ubuntu final is released. The
> > reason I am waiting the extra couple of days is simple really, I don't want
> > to do a ton of work, just to find that something that I used, or altered,
> > was changed, or completely removed, and have to do it all over again. So
> > only 2 more days till the final, not much time to wait.
> > Thing I am thinking of using in this ISO are,
> >
> > GDM for the login, as it is easier to customize for the end user
> > Conky
> > Exaile, or Rhythmbox for the music player, though I am leaning more towards
> > Exaile
> > MPLayer for video
> > XChat for irc, leading to both the Ubuntu, and the Lubuntu irc channels as
> > default on connection
> > Irssi as an optional client
> > XFCETerminal for the terminal, as it is more customizable, (colors,
> > transparency, etc)
> > GCompmg, this is a gui config tool for XCompmgr, which will obviously be
> > installed as well
> > Firefox for web
> > Claws for e-mail
> > BlueFish for an html/text editor
> > abiword
> > gnumeric
> > gimp
> > samba and nfs-common installed by default
> > Wicd for the network manager
> > OBConfig, for configuring the window boarders
> > and a few custom .desktop files for few things, like a logout/shutdown
> > button on the panel, and menu entries for GCompmgr, and XCompmgr.
> > Also, I am planing on making a couple of custom art items, like the LXDE
> > logout menu, making a custom banner for that, as well as a custom menu
> > button. If anyone has any more ideas for art, or programs, or anything else,
> > please do tell, I could use some ideas of what others are wanting in this.
> >
> > Dave, aka McLovin(926), aka Slaughter5
> >
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.org website

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

Hello all,

I understand that Mario has registered lubuntu.org. Does anyone have any 
updates to the plans for the site? ie hosting, forums, wiki, blog etc?


Cheers,

Luther

PS. #lubu...@freenode has been registered by hyperair. So feel free to start 
dropping in :) 



  

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Hello world testing

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

--- On Tue, 4/14/09, dave slaughter  wrote:

> From: dave slaughter 
> Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop]  Hello world testing
> To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
> Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 2:28 AM
> Sorry Luther,
> I sent this to you instead of the right email adress.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Luther Goh Lu Feng 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I am not sure if there are any ladies in here... So good
> day Ladies and Gentlemen.
> 
> 
> 
> As we get nearer to the Jaunty release, I thought that it
> will be a
> good move to start chit chatting a bit to see how we want
> this project
> to move.
> 
> 
> 
> Anyway, I am currently contributing to http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:Question,
> as I find that LXDE seems to lack a quality FAQ and newbie
> guide. Hence
> I am contributing to this in my limited free time, by
> looking at
> questions asked in the forum.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I am also hoping to build a SG based LXDE team. So I am
> spreading the
> word by talking to students. I am involved with NUS Linux
> Users' Group
> (aka linuxNUS).
> 
> 
> 
> I would also like to ask which irc channel /server we
> should use... and
> also whether we should advertise/recruit for Lubuntu in
> lxde forums and
> ubuntu forums.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> 
> Luther aka Lu Feng
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> I think that using the #lxde irc
> channel is ok for shooting around ideas for LXDE itself,
> but maybe
> making and registering a #lubuntu irc channel would be good
> too, maybe
> use the same sever as Ubuntu uses for their irc channel, or
> even use irc.oftc.net, like the #lxde
> channel.
> 
> 
> As for advertising/recruiting, maybe. This is the reason, I
> am the
> dev for LinuxMint LXDE CE as well, and I have a ton ppl
> that ask me
> every day if they can be part of the team, alot them I have
> to answer
> question on the irc channel about basic Linux things, like
> how to
> install a theme, or how to change menu items in Gnome,
> while others are
> true Linux gurus, but weeding them out takes more time than
> colaborating with the main LinuxMint dev team itself, so
> while it is
> usefull for getting some true tallent, it can also cause
> issues if
> someone who knows "just enough" manages to get on
> the team, and then
> starts slowing things down with questions like "How do
> you make a
> window border theme for LXDE?" and that can take away
> from solving real
> issues like how do we fix the random menu dissapearing in
> the LXPanel
> 0.4. So it has its ups and its downs. I think being careful
> of who is
> let into the dev team is going to be very impotant in the
> comming times.
> 
> 
> Dave, aka, McLovin, aka, Slaughter5
> 
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AFAIK, #ubuntu on irc.ubuntu.com is the same as the one on #ubuntu at 
irc.freenode.net. I would vote for having #lubuntu on freenode. If it is 
useful, we could get #lubuntu-devel as well. Incidentally, I also notice that a 
lot of people enter #lxde @freenode, but often then not, many people there are 
not knowledgable enough to answer, or nobody responds due to the lack of active 
people. So having a stronger presence on freenode could be beneficial for LXDE.

I don't have much experience in Open Source Projects like many here, but would 
like to suggest that though we may need to be stringent about who gets to do 
actual development, we should also ensure that there are channels (eg 
documentation, faq) conducive to build up the less experienced contributors. 

I look forward to more inputs from the rest of the Lubuntu team.


Cheers, 

Luther aka Lu Feng aka elfgoh 


  

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Hello world testing

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

Dear all,

I would suggest we use the existing resources - ubuntu-wiki,
lxde-wiki, ubuntu-forum, lxde-forum. I believe it is best to get the
work on the actual distribution going instead of investing time to set
up new systems, that have to be administered.

Best Mario


On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Andrew Lee  wrote:
> Dear folks,
>
> We just upgraded to a new hardware for lxde.org. I think it's not
> problem to host lubuntu.org. To host a forum is easy, but we would need
> moderators.
>
> I cc'ed the email to LXDE webmaster MWei.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Andrew
>
> dave slaughter wrote:
>> I noticed that the lubuntu.org  is redirecting to
>> lxde.org . I there a hosting issue? like I have said
>> before, I have some webspace that we can use for forums, and I can
>> install phpbb3, or vbulletin on there. Let me know what you all think.
>>
>> Dave.
>>

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