Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] consistent QA help really needed

[Jan Holtman]

Tried the daily image 32 bit, put on flashdrive with Rufus

Bootup with the flashdrive
Get the main menu with the languages.
Get the Lubuntu blue screen with the moving dots

Then I get a mouse pointer on a black screen and that's it. I can move the
mouse pointer, but for the rest nothing happens, waited for 10 minutes for
something to happen
Machines tested:
Lenovo T60 with T300 processor
Packard bell ZA3 with Z520 processor



Met vriendelijke groet / Best regards,

Jan Holtman

oulik@gmail.com <1%3aoulik@gmail.com>

<2%3ajan.holt...@live.com>

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 5:01 AM, Walter Lapchynski  wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 03:42:09AM +, James Freer wrote:
> > I do have a spare machine (actually two) so I can do
> > whatever without touching my main machine.
>
> That's great actually! We (well, all of Ubuntu really) does the vast
> majority of testing on virtual machines rather than real hardware.
> Occassionally there are bugs specific to real hardware that aren't
> caught, so that would be super duper helpful.
>
> I would certainly start by looking at the QA wiki page:
> https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/testing/
>
> If you have questions, reply back at lubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com or
> catch us at #lubuntu-devel on Freenode IRC.
>
> Talk to you soon!
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Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] consistent QA help really needed

[rapt]

I tried to install it. As I told, I had to use forcepae, but
installation, even if slowly, went fine. Unluckily I never reached the
login screen. I arrived to an all-white screen and then everything
stopped there. I tried many times installing, and once, if I remember
well, 'Try', but at last I finisceh installation. After reboot, an
all-white world... :-(


Il 13/03/2018 19:15, Nio Wiklund ha scritto:
> Hi again rapt,
>
> Lubuntu Bionic 32-bit:
>
> Did you 'Try Lubuntu' - and in that case, did it run live fairly well ?
>
> Is the problem 'only' with the installed system? In that case did it
> fail during installation, or did the installation look good, but the
> installed system failed?
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
> Den 2018-03-13 kl. 18:32, skrev rapt:
>> I use to run Lubuntu 14.04 on my T41. I tried to install Bionic using
>> the daily iso downloaded two days ago. I'm really fine with 14.04, maybe
>> I could upgrade to 16.04, but since my old machine has a 1400 mhz
>> processor and just 1256M ram, I use it to experiment other distros. In
>> my pc I run Ubuntu 14.04, I did not made upgrade to 16.04 because I have
>> many works to finish with Ardour, and I verified that Ardour 3 does not
>> see my old Ardour sessions. I tried too to install Lubit 6, but it did
>> not even start installation nor 'try'.
>>
>> I read that someone tried
>>
>>
>> Il 12/03/2018 21:15, Nio Wiklund ha scritto:
>>> Den 2018-03-12 kl. 19:15, skrev rapt:
 tried installing yesterday's iso in my old IBM Thinkpad T41. After
 installation (made Forcepae) it stops to an allwhite screen, never
 reaches login screen.

 CPU 1400 ghz, RAM 1,256 M

 'Till yesterday the machine correctly worked with Lubuntu 14.04 Trusty
 (slow video streaming, but correctly all the other)

 Hope useful


>>>
>>> Hi rapt,
>>>
>>> Which version of Lubuntu did you try (16.04.1, 16.04.4, 17.10, Bionic
>>> (to become 18.04))?
>>>
>>> Did you 'Try Lubuntu' - and in that case, did it run live fairly well ?
>>>
>>> What graphics chip/card is there in the computer?
>>>
>>> I have an IBM Thinkpad T42 (rather similar to T41), and it works for
>>> me with all current versions of Lubuntu (but Bionic is very slow).
>>>
>>> I suggest that you try with Lubuntu 16.04.1 LTS (32-bit). You find it
>>> via this link (scroll down to find it),
>>>
>>> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04.1/release/
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Nio
>>>
>>
>
>


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Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] consistent QA help really needed

[Nio Wiklund]

Hi again rapt,

Lubuntu Bionic 32-bit:

Did you 'Try Lubuntu' - and in that case, did it run live fairly well ?

Is the problem 'only' with the installed system? In that case did it 
fail during installation, or did the installation look good, but the 
installed system failed?


Best regards
Nio

Den 2018-03-13 kl. 18:32, skrev rapt:

I use to run Lubuntu 14.04 on my T41. I tried to install Bionic using
the daily iso downloaded two days ago. I'm really fine with 14.04, maybe
I could upgrade to 16.04, but since my old machine has a 1400 mhz
processor and just 1256M ram, I use it to experiment other distros. In
my pc I run Ubuntu 14.04, I did not made upgrade to 16.04 because I have
many works to finish with Ardour, and I verified that Ardour 3 does not
see my old Ardour sessions. I tried too to install Lubit 6, but it did
not even start installation nor 'try'.

I read that someone tried


Il 12/03/2018 21:15, Nio Wiklund ha scritto:

Den 2018-03-12 kl. 19:15, skrev rapt:

tried installing yesterday's iso in my old IBM Thinkpad T41. After
installation (made Forcepae) it stops to an allwhite screen, never
reaches login screen.

CPU 1400 ghz, RAM 1,256 M

'Till yesterday the machine correctly worked with Lubuntu 14.04 Trusty
(slow video streaming, but correctly all the other)

Hope useful




Hi rapt,

Which version of Lubuntu did you try (16.04.1, 16.04.4, 17.10, Bionic
(to become 18.04))?

Did you 'Try Lubuntu' - and in that case, did it run live fairly well ?

What graphics chip/card is there in the computer?

I have an IBM Thinkpad T42 (rather similar to T41), and it works for
me with all current versions of Lubuntu (but Bionic is very slow).

I suggest that you try with Lubuntu 16.04.1 LTS (32-bit). You find it
via this link (scroll down to find it),

http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04.1/release/

Best regards
Nio






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Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] consistent QA help really needed

[rapt]

I use to run Lubuntu 14.04 on my T41. I tried to install Bionic using
the daily iso downloaded two days ago. I'm really fine with 14.04, maybe
I could upgrade to 16.04, but since my old machine has a 1400 mhz
processor and just 1256M ram, I use it to experiment other distros. In
my pc I run Ubuntu 14.04, I did not made upgrade to 16.04 because I have
many works to finish with Ardour, and I verified that Ardour 3 does not
see my old Ardour sessions. I tried too to install Lubit 6, but it did
not even start installation nor 'try'.

I read that someone tried


Il 12/03/2018 21:15, Nio Wiklund ha scritto:
> Den 2018-03-12 kl. 19:15, skrev rapt:
>> tried installing yesterday's iso in my old IBM Thinkpad T41. After
>> installation (made Forcepae) it stops to an allwhite screen, never
>> reaches login screen.
>>
>> CPU 1400 ghz, RAM 1,256 M
>>
>> 'Till yesterday the machine correctly worked with Lubuntu 14.04 Trusty
>> (slow video streaming, but correctly all the other)
>>
>> Hope useful
>>
>>
>
> Hi rapt,
>
> Which version of Lubuntu did you try (16.04.1, 16.04.4, 17.10, Bionic
> (to become 18.04))?
>
> Did you 'Try Lubuntu' - and in that case, did it run live fairly well ?
>
> What graphics chip/card is there in the computer?
>
> I have an IBM Thinkpad T42 (rather similar to T41), and it works for
> me with all current versions of Lubuntu (but Bionic is very slow).
>
> I suggest that you try with Lubuntu 16.04.1 LTS (32-bit). You find it
> via this link (scroll down to find it),
>
> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04.1/release/
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>


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Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] consistent QA help really needed

[Nio Wiklund]

Den 2018-03-12 kl. 19:15, skrev rapt:

tried installing yesterday's iso in my old IBM Thinkpad T41. After
installation (made Forcepae) it stops to an allwhite screen, never
reaches login screen.

CPU 1400 ghz, RAM 1,256 M

'Till yesterday the machine correctly worked with Lubuntu 14.04 Trusty
(slow video streaming, but correctly all the other)

Hope useful




Hi rapt,

Which version of Lubuntu did you try (16.04.1, 16.04.4, 17.10, Bionic 
(to become 18.04))?


Did you 'Try Lubuntu' - and in that case, did it run live fairly well ?

What graphics chip/card is there in the computer?

I have an IBM Thinkpad T42 (rather similar to T41), and it works for me 
with all current versions of Lubuntu (but Bionic is very slow).


I suggest that you try with Lubuntu 16.04.1 LTS (32-bit). You find it 
via this link (scroll down to find it),


http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04.1/release/

Best regards
Nio

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Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] consistent QA help really needed

[rapt]

tried installing yesterday's iso in my old IBM Thinkpad T41. After
installation (made Forcepae) it stops to an allwhite screen, never
reaches login screen.

CPU 1400 ghz, RAM 1,256 M

'Till yesterday the machine correctly worked with Lubuntu 14.04 Trusty
(slow video streaming, but correctly all the other)

Hope useful


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Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] consistent QA help really needed

[Lyn Perrine]

I Have had a bit of a problem recently with my desktop I normally run vms
with leaving me currently with only a laptop with a slow 5400 rpm hard
drive being unable to upon the case and a laptop without vt-x as a
currently and have had family problems I know I was doing a ton of it but I
ended up burning out for a while. I do find my passion has redturned.
Although having all testing like this has a bus factor of 1 which is a
problem. I was preparing for the southern california linux expothe last few
days but had just returned and hopefully will test more. I had to have
prepartions for my dad before I left so I could not help with beta 1. More
help is always useful to get more hardware and not everyone noticies bugs
in the same way.

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 11:58 AM, Ian Bruntlett 
wrote:

> Hi Walter,
>
> On 10 March 2018 at 23:59, Walter Lapchynski  wrote:
>
>> Howdy folks,
>>
>> Lubuntu really needs you right now.
>>
>>
>
> Your thoughts on these matters would be most appreciated and our
>> gratitude for your help will be abundant.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Walter
>>
>
> I take testing Lubuntu very seriously. I do my best as a volunteer to help
> out but sometimes (as in this case) I had other demands on my time that I
> could not drop at short notice.
>
> BW,
>
>
> Ian
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Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] consistent QA help really needed

[Ian Bruntlett]

Hi Walter,

On 10 March 2018 at 23:59, Walter Lapchynski  wrote:

> Howdy folks,
>
> Lubuntu really needs you right now.
>
>

Your thoughts on these matters would be most appreciated and our
> gratitude for your help will be abundant.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Walter
>

I take testing Lubuntu very seriously. I do my best as a volunteer to help
out but sometimes (as in this case) I had other demands on my time that I
could not drop at short notice.

BW,


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Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] consistent QA help really needed

[Walter Lapchynski]

On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 08:07:44PM -0700, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. wrote:
> The daily image installed with no errors. I will test drive and report bugs
> as I see them.

Please make sure that whatever results you find, you report them on the
[ISO tracker][1]. The idea is that the testcases there should cover
every reasonable variation of options, including different installers,
different architectures, different installation and partition types,
etc. When we're doing milestone testing every single testcase needs to
be completed.

[1]: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com
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Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] consistent QA help really needed

[Herminio Hernandez, Jr.]

The daily image installed with no errors. I will test drive and report bugs
as I see them.

On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 7:09 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. <
herminio.hernande...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am going to give the daily a spin and run the QA tests.
>
> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 6:52 PM, Walter Lapchynski  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 06:46:59PM -0700, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. wrote:
>> > I would like to hep test. However the Lubuntu Beta1 has been disabled.
>> > Should I try the Lubuntu daily iso?
>>
>> Well, we're going to have a Beta 2 that we need to prepare for, so
>> certainly testing the dailies would be a very important step to take. In
>> fact, one of the reasons why the Release Team wants to get rid of
>> milestones is because they believe that regular, coordinated testing of
>> the daily images would be far more valuable.
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Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] consistent QA help really needed

[Herminio Hernandez, Jr.]

I am going to give the daily a spin and run the QA tests.

On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 6:52 PM, Walter Lapchynski  wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 06:46:59PM -0700, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. wrote:
> > I would like to hep test. However the Lubuntu Beta1 has been disabled.
> > Should I try the Lubuntu daily iso?
>
> Well, we're going to have a Beta 2 that we need to prepare for, so
> certainly testing the dailies would be a very important step to take. In
> fact, one of the reasons why the Release Team wants to get rid of
> milestones is because they believe that regular, coordinated testing of
> the daily images would be far more valuable.
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Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] consistent QA help really needed

[Walter Lapchynski]

On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 06:46:59PM -0700, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. wrote:
> I would like to hep test. However the Lubuntu Beta1 has been disabled.
> Should I try the Lubuntu daily iso?

Well, we're going to have a Beta 2 that we need to prepare for, so
certainly testing the dailies would be a very important step to take. In
fact, one of the reasons why the Release Team wants to get rid of
milestones is because they believe that regular, coordinated testing of
the daily images would be far more valuable.

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Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] consistent QA help really needed

[Herminio Hernandez, Jr.]

I would like to hep test. However the Lubuntu Beta1 has been disabled.
Should I try the Lubuntu daily iso?

On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 4:59 PM, Walter Lapchynski  wrote:

> Howdy folks,
>
> Lubuntu really needs you right now.
>
> Lubuntu has, as long as I've been involved with it, always been involved
> in every single milestone release, including the alphas. We have been
> adamant about this, even when other flavours don't. This goes quite
> against the current opinion among the Ubuntu Release Team to get rid of
> milestones altogether.
>
> With that said, I'm sure you can imagine what a shocking occurance it
> was to find that we did not have sufficient testing to release Beta 1
> this week.
>
> I admit that there were some extenuating circumstances, including some
> really annoying new bugs affecting us alone (including [one][1] that
> fundamentally cripples the installation process at an early stage), but
> this also shines the light on the fact that we really are in need of
> help.
>
> Lubuntu has always been a small team. That's never really changed.
> Circumstances in the lives of core team members have resulted in a
> little less activity on their part. In general, this wouldn't be too
> much of an issue. We've weathered similar storms, but we need people to
> finish this cycle successfully given the aforementioned extenuating
> circumstances.
>
> That said, I have a humble request: maybe just an hour of your time a
> week?
>
> I recognize that some activities require a degree of skill that many
> people don't have, but even the most casual user can make a significant
> difference in QA.
>
> Testing, as it affects us mostly, involves following a set of predefined
> steps towards installing a system. If you don't have spare hardware,
> this can be done on a virtual machine (this is easier than it might
> sound). This can be done daily to keep track of overall quality. Look
> for bugs that have already been reported. Even just confirming a bug
> report can make a huge difference, let alone adding more information.
> Filing a new bug is also huge. Marking a testcase (that's what we call
> one set of install steps) as succesful or unsuccesful can be equally
> valid.
>
> Similarly, looking through existing bugs and confirming them can be
> really useful. Not to mention even dealing with older bugs that don't
> affect the development cycle. Even invalidating one of these older ones
> can cut down on the overall workload.
>
> I guess what I'm saying is that you don't need to be a developer. You
> don't need to make a job out of contributing to Lubuntu. Just a little
> bit of your time would make a difference.
>
> What do you all think? If that's not convincing enough, what hurdles do
> you face that perhaps the team could help with? Are you interested but
> don't know what we're talking about? We will happily provide free
> training.
>
> Your thoughts on these matters would be most appreciated and our
> gratitude for your help will be abundant.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Walter
>
> [1]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1754174
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