Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-08-06 Thread Benjamin Tayehanpour
MTN did not do this for me either. It simply shut down the Internet
connection (e. g. redirected to their captive portal) when the bundle
was depleted. Granted, I never had a bundle *expire* on me, but I
can't imagine why this would be handed differently in their code,
unless their developers really went out of their way to induce such a
bug deliberately, which I doubt.

On 6 August 2013 07:03,  e...@afrigeek.net wrote:
 MTn does the same as the others.  Are you perhaps on a different subscription 
 package ?

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch 
 - TechPost
 From: okwii David oquid...@gmail.com
 Date: 5 Aug 2013 20:42
 To: Uganda Linux User Group lug@linux.or.ug
 CC:

 Hey guys,

 Sorry, i hadn't seen this thread!

 Anyway, MTN won't rob you as Airtel and Orange do. It doesn't
 automatically switch you to pay-as-go data rates unless you re-activate it
 yourself. That's a huge plus for them.

 Much as the Telecoms took the feedback (been meeting with Orange and Airtel
 folks), I intend to write another follow-up post specifically ranting about
 the robbery bit.

 Regards.



 On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Mike Barnard mike.barna...@gmail.comwrote:




 On 24 July 2013 16:40, Joshua Twinamasiko jo...@joshtwin.com wrote:

 You are not allowed to subscribe to another bundle before the existing
 one is done or expires.


 really, thats strange... I can subscribe to another bundle before I run
 out.

 So the SMS tells you you are 90�but you can't do anything about it!

 Joshua

 Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2
 On Jul 24, 2013 12:57 PM, Mike Barnard mike.barna...@gmail.com wrote:




 On 19 July 2013 11:08, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
 recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
 rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.


 eh! It seems I am a few of the folk who receive an sms alerting me that
 I have now used 80�f my data. When my data is used up, I get like 4 or 5
 simultaneous SMS's alerting me that my data bundle is used up. And all this
 with out asking for it...



 On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote:

 How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
 and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-08-05 Thread eb
MTn does the same as the others.  Are you perhaps on a different subscription 
package ?  

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - 
TechPost
From: okwii David oquid...@gmail.com
Date: 5 Aug 2013 20:42
To: Uganda Linux User Group lug@linux.or.ug
CC: 

Hey guys,

Sorry, i hadn't seen this thread!

Anyway, MTN won't rob you as Airtel and Orange do. It doesn't
automatically switch you to pay-as-go data rates unless you re-activate it
yourself. That's a huge plus for them.

Much as the Telecoms took the feedback (been meeting with Orange and Airtel
folks), I intend to write another follow-up post specifically ranting about
the robbery bit.

Regards.



On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Mike Barnard mike.barna...@gmail.comwrote:




 On 24 July 2013 16:40, Joshua Twinamasiko jo...@joshtwin.com wrote:

 You are not allowed to subscribe to another bundle before the existing
 one is done or expires.


 really, thats strange... I can subscribe to another bundle before I run
 out.

 So the SMS tells you you are 90�but you can't do anything about it!

 Joshua

 Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2
 On Jul 24, 2013 12:57 PM, Mike Barnard mike.barna...@gmail.com wrote:




 On 19 July 2013 11:08, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
 recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
 rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.


 eh! It seems I am a few of the folk who receive an sms alerting me that
 I have now used 80�f my data. When my data is used up, I get like 4 or 5
 simultaneous SMS's alerting me that my data bundle is used up. And all this
 with out asking for it...



 On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote:

 How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
 and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-25 Thread Mike Barnard
On 24 July 2013 20:47, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone get an SMS when their bundle is about to expire? Not a usage
 SMS, but an expiry one?


Nope, none that I know of...



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 On 24 July 2013 16:40, Joshua Twinamasiko jo...@joshtwin.com wrote:

 I also usually get 90% and 100% usage SMS alerts, but they are useless
 alerts. You are not allowed to subscribe to another bundle before the
 existing one is done or expires. So the SMS tells you you are 90%, but you
 can't do anything about it!

 Joshua

 Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2
 On Jul 24, 2013 12:57 PM, Mike Barnard mike.barna...@gmail.com wrote:




 On 19 July 2013 11:08, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
 recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
 rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.


 eh! It seems I am a few of the folk who receive an sms alerting me that
 I have now used 80% of my data. When my data is used up, I get like 4 or 5
 simultaneous SMS's alerting me that my data bundle is used up. And all this
 with out asking for it...



 On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote:

 How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
 and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-25 Thread Mike Barnard
On 24 July 2013 16:40, Joshua Twinamasiko jo...@joshtwin.com wrote:

 You are not allowed to subscribe to another bundle before the existing one
 is done or expires.


really, thats strange... I can subscribe to another bundle before I run
out.

 So the SMS tells you you are 90%, but you can't do anything about it!

 Joshua

 Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2
 On Jul 24, 2013 12:57 PM, Mike Barnard mike.barna...@gmail.com wrote:




 On 19 July 2013 11:08, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
 recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
 rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.


 eh! It seems I am a few of the folk who receive an sms alerting me that I
 have now used 80% of my data. When my data is used up, I get like 4 or 5
 simultaneous SMS's alerting me that my data bundle is used up. And all this
 with out asking for it...



 On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote:

 How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
 and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-24 Thread Mike Barnard
On 19 July 2013 11:08, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
 recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
 rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.


eh! It seems I am a few of the folk who receive an sms alerting me that I
have now used 80% of my data. When my data is used up, I get like 4 or 5
simultaneous SMS's alerting me that my data bundle is used up. And all this
with out asking for it...



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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-24 Thread Kyle Spencer
My data didn't run out; my bundle expired. No warning. Lost 20k after being
silently switched to the psycho pay-as-you-go rate.
On Jul 24, 2013 12:58 PM, Mike Barnard mike.barna...@gmail.com wrote:




 On 19 July 2013 11:08, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
 recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
 rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.


 eh! It seems I am a few of the folk who receive an sms alerting me that I
 have now used 80% of my data. When my data is used up, I get like 4 or 5
 simultaneous SMS's alerting me that my data bundle is used up. And all this
 with out asking for it...



 On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote:

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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-24 Thread James S. K. Makumbi
The 80% warning no longer comes but yes I do get an sms when my bundle is
used up and then every time I attempt to use the airtime instead.

 

From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of
Mike Barnard
Sent: 24 July 2013 12:56
To: Uganda Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
Deathmatch - TechPost

 

 

 

On 19 July 2013 11:08, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com
mailto:k...@stormzero.com  wrote:

Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.

 

eh! It seems I am a few of the folk who receive an sms alerting me that I
have now used 80% of my data. When my data is used up, I get like 4 or 5
simultaneous SMS's alerting me that my data bundle is used up. And all this
with out asking for it...

 

On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com
mailto:jkkas...@gmail.com  wrote:

How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-24 Thread James S. K. Makumbi
The monthly expiry thing STILL makes me angry. It has to go. Let data run
out and they can steal the airtime but for F$%$% sake not the time.

 

From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of
Kyle Spencer
Sent: 24 July 2013 13:05
To: Uganda Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
Deathmatch - TechPost

 

My data didn't run out; my bundle expired. No warning. Lost 20k after being
silently switched to the psycho pay-as-you-go rate.

On Jul 24, 2013 12:58 PM, Mike Barnard mike.barna...@gmail.com
mailto:mike.barna...@gmail.com  wrote:

 

 

On 19 July 2013 11:08, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com
mailto:k...@stormzero.com  wrote:

Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.

 

eh! It seems I am a few of the folk who receive an sms alerting me that I
have now used 80% of my data. When my data is used up, I get like 4 or 5
simultaneous SMS's alerting me that my data bundle is used up. And all this
with out asking for it...

 

On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com
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How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-24 Thread Joshua Twinamasiko
I also usually get 90% and 100% usage SMS alerts, but they are useless
alerts. You are not allowed to subscribe to another bundle before the
existing one is done or expires. So the SMS tells you you are 90%, but you
can't do anything about it!

Joshua

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2
On Jul 24, 2013 12:57 PM, Mike Barnard mike.barna...@gmail.com wrote:




 On 19 July 2013 11:08, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
 recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
 rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.


 eh! It seems I am a few of the folk who receive an sms alerting me that I
 have now used 80% of my data. When my data is used up, I get like 4 or 5
 simultaneous SMS's alerting me that my data bundle is used up. And all this
 with out asking for it...



 On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote:

 How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
 and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-24 Thread Peter C. Ndikuwera
Does anyone get an SMS when their bundle is about to expire? Not a usage
SMS, but an expiry one?

P.

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On 24 July 2013 16:40, Joshua Twinamasiko jo...@joshtwin.com wrote:

 I also usually get 90% and 100% usage SMS alerts, but they are useless
 alerts. You are not allowed to subscribe to another bundle before the
 existing one is done or expires. So the SMS tells you you are 90%, but you
 can't do anything about it!

 Joshua

 Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2
 On Jul 24, 2013 12:57 PM, Mike Barnard mike.barna...@gmail.com wrote:




 On 19 July 2013 11:08, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
 recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
 rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.


 eh! It seems I am a few of the folk who receive an sms alerting me that I
 have now used 80% of my data. When my data is used up, I get like 4 or 5
 simultaneous SMS's alerting me that my data bundle is used up. And all this
 with out asking for it...



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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-24 Thread Bright Onapito
Orange used be very religous about sending me an SMS when I have used up
80% of my bundle. But alas! These days the chaps only send me one when am
burnt out completely, annoyingly to remind me to recharge.

Sent from Bright's Droid
 On 24/07/2013 8:49 PM, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone get an SMS when their bundle is about to expire? Not a usage
 SMS, but an expiry one?

 P.

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 occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given
 credit.


 On 24 July 2013 16:40, Joshua Twinamasiko jo...@joshtwin.com wrote:

 I also usually get 90% and 100% usage SMS alerts, but they are useless
 alerts. You are not allowed to subscribe to another bundle before the
 existing one is done or expires. So the SMS tells you you are 90%, but you
 can't do anything about it!

 Joshua

 Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2
 On Jul 24, 2013 12:57 PM, Mike Barnard mike.barna...@gmail.com wrote:




 On 19 July 2013 11:08, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
 recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
 rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.


 eh! It seems I am a few of the folk who receive an sms alerting me that
 I have now used 80% of my data. When my data is used up, I get like 4 or 5
 simultaneous SMS's alerting me that my data bundle is used up. And all this
 with out asking for it...



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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-24 Thread Bright Onapito
Smile Telecom has a cool feature where you can allow out of bundle usage.
Effectively that means once your data is done your airtime wont be 'raped'.
The mainstream telecos know they make more money when you don't use
services over IP. As such they smile when your data plan switches to
precious airtime. Damn them!

Sent from Bright's Droid
 On 24/07/2013 8:49 PM, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone get an SMS when their bundle is about to expire? Not a usage
 SMS, but an expiry one?

 P.

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 occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given
 credit.


 On 24 July 2013 16:40, Joshua Twinamasiko jo...@joshtwin.com wrote:

 I also usually get 90% and 100% usage SMS alerts, but they are useless
 alerts. You are not allowed to subscribe to another bundle before the
 existing one is done or expires. So the SMS tells you you are 90%, but you
 can't do anything about it!

 Joshua

 Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2
 On Jul 24, 2013 12:57 PM, Mike Barnard mike.barna...@gmail.com wrote:




 On 19 July 2013 11:08, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
 recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
 rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.


 eh! It seems I am a few of the folk who receive an sms alerting me that
 I have now used 80% of my data. When my data is used up, I get like 4 or 5
 simultaneous SMS's alerting me that my data bundle is used up. And all this
 with out asking for it...



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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread Joseph Kasoma
How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread Kyle Spencer
Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.
On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote:

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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread placid
Am currently using Smiletelecoms 4g LTE, in my opinion i have never been 
disappointed with their speeds..it never buffers, i think its the best i hv 
ever used





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To: Uganda Linux User Group lug@linux.or.ug 
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - 
TechPost
 

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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread Kyle Spencer
Smile is extremely fast but their pricing still doesn't make sense. They
offer the same size bundles as Orange (and others) at approximately the
same price, yet their service is capable of consuming them 50x as fast.

They have an unlimited plan but are apparently unable to cap the speed  so
the cost is like 3m/mo or something ridiculous.
On Jul 19, 2013 11:30 AM, placid pow...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Am currently using Smiletelecoms 4g LTE, in my opinion i have never been
 disappointed with their speeds..it never buffers, i think its the best i hv
 ever used


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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread James S. K. Makumbi
Smile should shutup when the big people are talking.

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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread James S. K. Makumbi
Kyle,

 

Can we analyze this whole rob me blind thing? YOU are using YOUR airtime
as YOUR DATA to surf the interwebs. Just because the ISP has not warned you
that you have spent your data you feel robbed?

Should the bank warn you that you are eating into your savings too? Should
your phone come with a red light like a fuel gauge?

No if they took the airtime and you got no value, that would be robbery.

 

From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of
Kyle Spencer
Sent: 19 July 2013 11:09
To: Uganda Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
Deathmatch - TechPost

 

Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.

On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com
mailto:jkkas...@gmail.com  wrote:

How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread Kyle Spencer
The ISP, in this case Orange, should warn its customers that they are being
automatically switched to a 1000x billing rate.

To not do so is arguably unethical.
On Jul 19, 2013 11:43 AM, James S. K. Makumbi jmark...@gmail.com wrote:

 Kyle,

 ** **

 Can we analyze this whole “rob me blind” thing? YOU are using YOUR airtime
 as YOUR DATA to surf the interwebs. Just because the ISP has not warned you
 that you have spent your data you feel robbed?

 Should the bank warn you that you are eating into your savings too? Should
 your phone come with a red light like a fuel gauge?

 No if they took the airtime and you got no value, that would be robbery.**
 **

 ** **

 *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On
 Behalf Of *Kyle Spencer
 *Sent:* 19 July 2013 11:09
 *To:* Uganda Linux User Group
 *Subject:* Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
 Deathmatch - TechPost

 ** **

 Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
 recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
 rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.

 On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote:

 How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
 and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread James S. K. Makumbi
They are also currently limited to Kampala only.

 

From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of
Kyle Spencer
Sent: 19 July 2013 11:35
To: placid
Cc: Uganda Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
Deathmatch - TechPost

 

Smile is extremely fast but their pricing still doesn't make sense. They
offer the same size bundles as Orange (and others) at approximately the same
price, yet their service is capable of consuming them 50x as fast. 

They have an unlimited plan but are apparently unable to cap the speed  so
the cost is like 3m/mo or something ridiculous. 

On Jul 19, 2013 11:30 AM, placid pow...@yahoo.com
mailto:pow...@yahoo.com  wrote:

Am currently using Smiletelecoms 4g LTE, in my opinion i have never been
disappointed with their speeds..it never buffers, i think its the best i hv
ever used

 

 

  _  

From: Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com mailto:jkkas...@gmail.com 
To: Uganda Linux User Group lug@linux.or.ug mailto:lug@linux.or.ug  
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
Deathmatch - TechPost


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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread Benjamin Tayehanpour
James,

be fair now. Most prominent ISPs in other countries give due warnings when
a bundle is running out; in fact, it is a requirement in the EU. Is it
really that crazy to want the Ugandan ISPs to aspire to international
standards?

Now, to give the L in LUG a chance: iptables has a quota module. You could
easily make your Linux computer cut the Internet connection when a set
amount of traffic has travelled through the interface. Now, when I lived in
Uganda and had MTN I made a small shell script which automatically went
online to MTNs web page and told me the amount of data traffic I had left.
If you take such a script, make it construct an iptables rule based on the
figure it receives, and put this script in /etc/network/if-up.d, it would
automatically run and set the appropriate limit whenever you went online.


On 19 July 2013 10:40, James S. K. Makumbi jmark...@gmail.com wrote:

 Kyle,

 ** **

 Can we analyze this whole “rob me blind” thing? YOU are using YOUR airtime
 as YOUR DATA to surf the interwebs. Just because the ISP has not warned you
 that you have spent your data you feel robbed?

 Should the bank warn you that you are eating into your savings too? Should
 your phone come with a red light like a fuel gauge?

 No if they took the airtime and you got no value, that would be robbery.**
 **

 ** **

 *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On
 Behalf Of *Kyle Spencer
 *Sent:* 19 July 2013 11:09

 *To:* Uganda Linux User Group
 *Subject:* Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
 Deathmatch - TechPost

 ** **

 Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
 recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
 rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.

 On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote:

 How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
 and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread Peter C. Ndikuwera
Airtel does the same thing, although they do (sometimes) send an SMS
warning when you reach 90% usage.

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On 19 July 2013 11:55, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 The ISP, in this case Orange, should warn its customers that they are
 being automatically switched to a 1000x billing rate.

 To not do so is arguably unethical.
 On Jul 19, 2013 11:43 AM, James S. K. Makumbi jmark...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Kyle,

 ** **

 Can we analyze this whole “rob me blind” thing? YOU are using YOUR
 airtime as YOUR DATA to surf the interwebs. Just because the ISP has not
 warned you that you have spent your data you feel robbed?

 Should the bank warn you that you are eating into your savings too?
 Should your phone come with a red light like a fuel gauge?

 No if they took the airtime and you got no value, that would be robbery.*
 ***

 ** **

 *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On
 Behalf Of *Kyle Spencer
 *Sent:* 19 July 2013 11:09
 *To:* Uganda Linux User Group
 *Subject:* Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
 Deathmatch - TechPost

 ** **

 Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
 recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
 rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.

 On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote:

 How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
 and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread Peter Atkin
Be interested to know how the get such performance I thought they just piggy
backed on the other providers.

 

Kind Regards 

 

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From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of
James S. K. Makumbi
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:59 AM
To: 'Uganda Linux User Group'; 'placid'
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
Deathmatch - TechPost

 

They are also currently limited to Kampala only.

 

From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of
Kyle Spencer
Sent: 19 July 2013 11:35
To: placid
Cc: Uganda Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
Deathmatch - TechPost

 

Smile is extremely fast but their pricing still doesn't make sense. They
offer the same size bundles as Orange (and others) at approximately the same
price, yet their service is capable of consuming them 50x as fast. 

They have an unlimited plan but are apparently unable to cap the speed  so
the cost is like 3m/mo or something ridiculous. 

On Jul 19, 2013 11:30 AM, placid pow...@yahoo.com wrote:

Am currently using Smiletelecoms 4g LTE, in my opinion i have never been
disappointed with their speeds..it never buffers, i think its the best i hv
ever used

 

 

  _  

From: Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com
To: Uganda Linux User Group lug@linux.or.ug 
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
Deathmatch - TechPost


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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread James S. K. Makumbi
Roke Telecom ;-)

 

From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of
Peter Atkin
Sent: 19 July 2013 12:07
To: 'Uganda Linux User Group'; 'placid'
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
Deathmatch - TechPost

 

Be interested to know how the get such performance I thought they just piggy
backed on the other providers.

 

Kind Regards 

 

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http://ug.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin view my  profile

 

From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug
[mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of James S. K. Makumbi
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:59 AM
To: 'Uganda Linux User Group'; 'placid'
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
Deathmatch - TechPost

 

They are also currently limited to Kampala only.

 

From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug
[mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Kyle Spencer
Sent: 19 July 2013 11:35
To: placid
Cc: Uganda Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
Deathmatch - TechPost

 

Smile is extremely fast but their pricing still doesn't make sense. They
offer the same size bundles as Orange (and others) at approximately the same
price, yet their service is capable of consuming them 50x as fast. 

They have an unlimited plan but are apparently unable to cap the speed  so
the cost is like 3m/mo or something ridiculous. 

On Jul 19, 2013 11:30 AM, placid pow...@yahoo.com
mailto:pow...@yahoo.com  wrote:

Am currently using Smiletelecoms 4g LTE, in my opinion i have never been
disappointed with their speeds..it never buffers, i think its the best i hv
ever used

 

 

  _  

From: Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com mailto:jkkas...@gmail.com 
To: Uganda Linux User Group lug@linux.or.ug mailto:lug@linux.or.ug  
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
Deathmatch - TechPost


How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread DENIS McNelly
you need to understand your internet needs and subscribe acordingly to
avoid the rob me blind stuff and at the same time the ISPs needs to learn
to effectively relate to their customers to avoid such a scenario. I dont
think a reminding sms to alert the subscriber of its data usage update
could be a bad idea

McNellu

Sent from my iPhone 5

On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:43 AM, James S. K. Makumbi jmark...@gmail.com
wrote:

Kyle,



Can we analyze this whole “rob me blind” thing? YOU are using YOUR airtime
as YOUR DATA to surf the interwebs. Just because the ISP has not warned you
that you have spent your data you feel robbed?

Should the bank warn you that you are eating into your savings too? Should
your phone come with a red light like a fuel gauge?

No if they took the airtime and you got no value, that would be robbery.



*From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug
[mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.uglug-boun...@linux.or.ug]
*On Behalf Of *Kyle Spencer
*Sent:* 19 July 2013 11:09
*To:* Uganda Linux User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
Deathmatch - TechPost



Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.

On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote:

How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread James S. K. Makumbi
I agree that they should warn you.

 

From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of
Kyle Spencer
Sent: 19 July 2013 11:56
To: Uganda Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
Deathmatch - TechPost

 

The ISP, in this case Orange, should warn its customers that they are being
automatically switched to a 1000x billing rate.

To not do so is arguably unethical.

On Jul 19, 2013 11:43 AM, James S. K. Makumbi jmark...@gmail.com
mailto:jmark...@gmail.com  wrote:

Kyle,

 

Can we analyze this whole rob me blind thing? YOU are using YOUR airtime
as YOUR DATA to surf the interwebs. Just because the ISP has not warned you
that you have spent your data you feel robbed?

Should the bank warn you that you are eating into your savings too? Should
your phone come with a red light like a fuel gauge?

No if they took the airtime and you got no value, that would be robbery.

 

From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug
[mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug ] On Behalf
Of Kyle Spencer
Sent: 19 July 2013 11:09
To: Uganda Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
Deathmatch - TechPost

 

Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.

On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com
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How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread Kyle Spencer
They have low network congestion, fiber backhaul, and a fast last-mile
delivery method (4G).
On Jul 19, 2013 12:05 PM, Peter Atkin peter.at...@cfts.co wrote:

 Be interested to know how the get such performance I thought they just
 piggy backed on the other providers.

 ** **

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 *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On
 Behalf Of *James S. K. Makumbi
 *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2013 11:59 AM
 *To:* 'Uganda Linux User Group'; 'placid'
 *Subject:* Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
 Deathmatch - TechPost

 ** **

 They are also currently limited to Kampala only.

 ** **

 *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug 
 [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.uglug-boun...@linux.or.ug]
 *On Behalf Of *Kyle Spencer
 *Sent:* 19 July 2013 11:35
 *To:* placid
 *Cc:* Uganda Linux User Group
 *Subject:* Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
 Deathmatch - TechPost

 ** **

 Smile is extremely fast but their pricing still doesn't make sense. They
 offer the same size bundles as Orange (and others) at approximately the
 same price, yet their service is capable of consuming them 50x as fast. **
 **

 They have an unlimited plan but are apparently unable to cap the speed  so
 the cost is like 3m/mo or something ridiculous. 

 On Jul 19, 2013 11:30 AM, placid pow...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Am currently using Smiletelecoms 4g LTE, in my opinion i have never been
 disappointed with their speeds..it never buffers, i think its the best i hv
 ever used

 ** **

 ** **
 --

 *From:* Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com
 *To:* Uganda Linux User Group lug@linux.or.ug
 *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2013 11:04 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
 Deathmatch - TechPost


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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread James S. K. Makumbi
I do the same thing with my phone.

But you must remember to reset iptables when you load new airtime!

Orange ALWAYS sends me my sms in time but that is because I REALLY got in their 
hair about it.

We need a Linux lab to see all the “best practices” in action.

 

From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of 
Benjamin Tayehanpour
Sent: 19 July 2013 12:01
To: Uganda Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - 
TechPost

 

James,

be fair now. Most prominent ISPs in other countries give due warnings when a 
bundle is running out; in fact, it is a requirement in the EU. Is it really 
that crazy to want the Ugandan ISPs to aspire to international standards?

Now, to give the L in LUG a chance: iptables has a quota module. You could 
easily make your Linux computer cut the Internet connection when a set amount 
of traffic has travelled through the interface. Now, when I lived in Uganda and 
had MTN I made a small shell script which automatically went online to MTNs web 
page and told me the amount of data traffic I had left. If you take such a 
script, make it construct an iptables rule based on the figure it receives, and 
put this script in /etc/network/if-up.d, it would automatically run and set the 
appropriate limit whenever you went online.

 

On 19 July 2013 10:40, James S. K. Makumbi jmark...@gmail.com 
mailto:jmark...@gmail.com  wrote:

Kyle,

 

Can we analyze this whole “rob me blind” thing? YOU are using YOUR airtime as 
YOUR DATA to surf the interwebs. Just because the ISP has not warned you that 
you have spent your data you feel robbed?

Should the bank warn you that you are eating into your savings too? Should your 
phone come with a red light like a fuel gauge?

No if they took the airtime and you got no value, that would be robbery.

 

From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug  
[mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug ] On Behalf Of 
Kyle Spencer
Sent: 19 July 2013 11:09


To: Uganda Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - 
TechPost

 

Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I recieve 
no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous rate. I had 
a friend lose nearly 100k this way.

On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com 
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How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread James S. K. Makumbi
Let us not indirectly bash Kyle here please :)

I think ISPs should turn off the ability to use your airtime as data since
they already offer a separate service where you actually buy data.

 

From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of
DENIS McNelly
Sent: 19 July 2013 12:09
To: Uganda Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
Deathmatch - TechPost

 

you need to understand your internet needs and subscribe acordingly to avoid
the rob me blind stuff and at the same time the ISPs needs to learn to
effectively relate to their customers to avoid such a scenario. I dont think
a reminding sms to alert the subscriber of its data usage update could be a
bad idea

 

McNellu

Sent from my iPhone 5


On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:43 AM, James S. K. Makumbi jmark...@gmail.com
mailto:jmark...@gmail.com  wrote:

Kyle,

 

Can we analyze this whole rob me blind thing? YOU are using YOUR airtime
as YOUR DATA to surf the interwebs. Just because the ISP has not warned you
that you have spent your data you feel robbed?

Should the bank warn you that you are eating into your savings too? Should
your phone come with a red light like a fuel gauge?

No if they took the airtime and you got no value, that would be robbery.

 

From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug
[mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Kyle Spencer
Sent: 19 July 2013 11:09
To: Uganda Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
Deathmatch - TechPost

 

Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.

On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com
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and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread Kyle Spencer
I subscribed appropriately and even had 1.2GB left on my bundle. The
problem was that the bundle EXPIRED, I was not notified, and got
automagically switched to a rape rate.
On Jul 19, 2013 12:11 PM, DENIS McNelly amatide...@gmail.com wrote:

 you need to understand your internet needs and subscribe acordingly to
 avoid the rob me blind stuff and at the same time the ISPs needs to learn
 to effectively relate to their customers to avoid such a scenario. I dont
 think a reminding sms to alert the subscriber of its data usage update
 could be a bad idea

 McNellu

 Sent from my iPhone 5

 On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:43 AM, James S. K. Makumbi jmark...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Kyle,



 Can we analyze this whole “rob me blind” thing? YOU are using YOUR airtime
 as YOUR DATA to surf the interwebs. Just because the ISP has not warned you
 that you have spent your data you feel robbed?

 Should the bank warn you that you are eating into your savings too? Should
 your phone come with a red light like a fuel gauge?

 No if they took the airtime and you got no value, that would be robbery.



 *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug 
 [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.uglug-boun...@linux.or.ug]
 *On Behalf Of *Kyle Spencer
 *Sent:* 19 July 2013 11:09
 *To:* Uganda Linux User Group
 *Subject:* Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
 Deathmatch - TechPost



 Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
 recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
 rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.

 On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote:

 How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
 and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread James S. K. Makumbi
WOW!

Now this I admit I had not considered. Yes, the expiry thing is robbery. 

Consider longer periods and lower data quantities? I do 1 month and 700mb.
It has never expired on me. I did know one lady who got up to 1gb by
renewing a daily 300mb.

 

From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of
Kyle Spencer
Sent: 19 July 2013 12:17
To: Uganda Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
Deathmatch - TechPost

 

I subscribed appropriately and even had 1.2GB left on my bundle. The problem
was that the bundle EXPIRED, I was not notified, and got automagically
switched to a rape rate.

On Jul 19, 2013 12:11 PM, DENIS McNelly amatide...@gmail.com
mailto:amatide...@gmail.com  wrote:

you need to understand your internet needs and subscribe acordingly to avoid
the rob me blind stuff and at the same time the ISPs needs to learn to
effectively relate to their customers to avoid such a scenario. I dont think
a reminding sms to alert the subscriber of its data usage update could be a
bad idea

 

McNellu

Sent from my iPhone 5


On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:43 AM, James S. K. Makumbi jmark...@gmail.com
mailto:jmark...@gmail.com  wrote:

Kyle,

 

Can we analyze this whole rob me blind thing? YOU are using YOUR airtime
as YOUR DATA to surf the interwebs. Just because the ISP has not warned you
that you have spent your data you feel robbed?

Should the bank warn you that you are eating into your savings too? Should
your phone come with a red light like a fuel gauge?

No if they took the airtime and you got no value, that would be robbery.

 

From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug
[mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Kyle Spencer
Sent: 19 July 2013 11:09
To: Uganda Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
Deathmatch - TechPost

 

Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.

On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com
mailto:jkkas...@gmail.com  wrote:

How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread Joshua Twinamasiko
To protect my airtime from robbery, I load only enough for the bundles
that I need, have it deducted immediately so that when the bundle runs out,
there's no airtime to loose.

For example 20,000 for monthly Pakalast covers calls to Airtel and Warid,
5,000 SMS bundle, 40/= per SMS to all networks, then Data bundle as the
need arises. So I can call most people, SMS all and browse with 0 balance.

I then keep unscratched airtime cards on me for when any of the bundles
runs out.

For calls to networks outside the marriage, I load airtime on the  MTN
number which has no subscriptions to any services so I'll find it still on
phone even if I don't make any calls for days.

In short, keeping unused airtime in your wallet is safer than loading it.

Joshua

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2
On Jul 19, 2013 11:10 AM, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
 recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
 rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.
 On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote:

 How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
 and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread Peter C. Ndikuwera
Wow!

But Joshua, you shouldn't need to do all that! That's the point - the
networks should provide an option so that your number can ONLY use data
when there's an active bundle. Shouldn't be too hard to do.

Personally, I use a free app to monitor my usage, so I get a clear warning
when my bundle is about to expire. But, to make matters worse, Airtel
doesn't allow me to top-up my bundle, so I can't (like I do on Internet
Everywhere), add data before my current bundle expires.

P.

--
Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events
occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given
credit.


On 19 July 2013 15:00, Joshua Twinamasiko jo...@joshtwin.com wrote:

 To protect my airtime from robbery, I load only enough for the bundles
 that I need, have it deducted immediately so that when the bundle runs out,
 there's no airtime to loose.

 For example 20,000 for monthly Pakalast covers calls to Airtel and Warid,
 5,000 SMS bundle, 40/= per SMS to all networks, then Data bundle as the
 need arises. So I can call most people, SMS all and browse with 0 balance.

 I then keep unscratched airtime cards on me for when any of the bundles
 runs out.

 For calls to networks outside the marriage, I load airtime on the  MTN
 number which has no subscriptions to any services so I'll find it still on
 phone even if I don't make any calls for days.

 In short, keeping unused airtime in your wallet is safer than loading it.

 Joshua

 Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2
 On Jul 19, 2013 11:10 AM, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
 recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
 rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.
 On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote:

 How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
 and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread Joshua Twinamasiko
Peter,

Yes it shouldn't be too difficult for the network engineers to implement
that. And I started advocating for it when the first 3G networks rolled
out, but it seems like they benefit from the way things are now and aren't
in a hurry to plug such sources of revenue.

Many loopholes that allow users to browse for free or get more data than
they've paid for quickly get fixed. I'm sure they could also fix that, but
its not to their benefit.

So I take it upon myself to protect my interests.

Joshua

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2
On Jul 19, 2013 3:14 PM, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow!

 But Joshua, you shouldn't need to do all that! That's the point - the
 networks should provide an option so that your number can ONLY use data
 when there's an active bundle. Shouldn't be too hard to do.

 Personally, I use a free app to monitor my usage, so I get a clear warning
 when my bundle is about to expire. But, to make matters worse, Airtel
 doesn't allow me to top-up my bundle, so I can't (like I do on Internet
 Everywhere), add data before my current bundle expires.

 P.

 --
 Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events
 occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given
 credit.


 On 19 July 2013 15:00, Joshua Twinamasiko jo...@joshtwin.com wrote:

 To protect my airtime from robbery, I load only enough for the bundles
 that I need, have it deducted immediately so that when the bundle runs out,
 there's no airtime to loose.

 For example 20,000 for monthly Pakalast covers calls to Airtel and Warid,
 5,000 SMS bundle, 40/= per SMS to all networks, then Data bundle as the
 need arises. So I can call most people, SMS all and browse with 0 balance.

 I then keep unscratched airtime cards on me for when any of the bundles
 runs out.

 For calls to networks outside the marriage, I load airtime on the  MTN
 number which has no subscriptions to any services so I'll find it still on
 phone even if I don't make any calls for days.

 In short, keeping unused airtime in your wallet is safer than loading it.

 Joshua

 Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2
 On Jul 19, 2013 11:10 AM, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
 recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
 rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.
 On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote:

 How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
 and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread Patrick Tumusime
Sometime back we tried to bring the issue to the attention of AIRTEL via
Twitter but they kept saying that they will work on it(This was about 2
years ago), We tried again this year to raise the issue but still there was
no response. I don't know whether it's just very difficult or the telecoms
are have other intentions.


On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Joshua Twinamasiko jo...@joshtwin.comwrote:

 Peter,

 Yes it shouldn't be too difficult for the network engineers to implement
 that. And I started advocating for it when the first 3G networks rolled
 out, but it seems like they benefit from the way things are now and aren't
 in a hurry to plug such sources of revenue.

 Many loopholes that allow users to browse for free or get more data than
 they've paid for quickly get fixed. I'm sure they could also fix that, but
 its not to their benefit.

 So I take it upon myself to protect my interests.

 Joshua

 Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2
 On Jul 19, 2013 3:14 PM, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow!

 But Joshua, you shouldn't need to do all that! That's the point - the
 networks should provide an option so that your number can ONLY use data
 when there's an active bundle. Shouldn't be too hard to do.

 Personally, I use a free app to monitor my usage, so I get a clear
 warning when my bundle is about to expire. But, to make matters worse,
 Airtel doesn't allow me to top-up my bundle, so I can't (like I do on
 Internet Everywhere), add data before my current bundle expires.

 P.

 --
 Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable
 events occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one
 is given credit.


 On 19 July 2013 15:00, Joshua Twinamasiko jo...@joshtwin.com wrote:

 To protect my airtime from robbery, I load only enough for the bundles
 that I need, have it deducted immediately so that when the bundle runs out,
 there's no airtime to loose.

 For example 20,000 for monthly Pakalast covers calls to Airtel and
 Warid, 5,000 SMS bundle, 40/= per SMS to all networks, then Data bundle as
 the need arises. So I can call most people, SMS all and browse with 0
 balance.

 I then keep unscratched airtime cards on me for when any of the bundles
 runs out.

 For calls to networks outside the marriage, I load airtime on the  MTN
 number which has no subscriptions to any services so I'll find it still on
 phone even if I don't make any calls for days.

 In short, keeping unused airtime in your wallet is safer than loading it.

 Joshua

 Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2
 On Jul 19, 2013 11:10 AM, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
 recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
 rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.
 On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote:

 How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
 and Airtel?
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Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-19 Thread James S. K. Makumbi
We are not alone apparently

http://mustaphamugisa.com/index.php/item/79-orange-s-unfair-data-subscriptio
n-system

 

From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of
Patrick Tumusime
Sent: 19 July 2013 19:15
To: Uganda Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service
Deathmatch - TechPost

 

Sometime back we tried to bring the issue to the attention of AIRTEL via
Twitter but they kept saying that they will work on it(This was about 2
years ago), We tried again this year to raise the issue but still there was
no response. I don't know whether it's just very difficult or the telecoms
are have other intentions. 

 

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Joshua Twinamasiko jo...@joshtwin.com
mailto:jo...@joshtwin.com  wrote:

Peter,

Yes it shouldn't be too difficult for the network engineers to implement
that. And I started advocating for it when the first 3G networks rolled out,
but it seems like they benefit from the way things are now and aren't in a
hurry to plug such sources of revenue.

Many loopholes that allow users to browse for free or get more data than
they've paid for quickly get fixed. I'm sure they could also fix that, but
its not to their benefit.

So I take it upon myself to protect my interests.

Joshua

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2

On Jul 19, 2013 3:14 PM, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com
mailto:pnd...@gmail.com  wrote:

Wow! 

 

But Joshua, you shouldn't need to do all that! That's the point - the
networks should provide an option so that your number can ONLY use data when
there's an active bundle. Shouldn't be too hard to do.

 

Personally, I use a free app to monitor my usage, so I get a clear warning
when my bundle is about to expire. But, to make matters worse, Airtel
doesn't allow me to top-up my bundle, so I can't (like I do on Internet
Everywhere), add data before my current bundle expires.

 

P.




--

Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events
occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given
credit.

 

On 19 July 2013 15:00, Joshua Twinamasiko jo...@joshtwin.com
mailto:jo...@joshtwin.com  wrote:

To protect my airtime from robbery, I load only enough for the bundles
that I need, have it deducted immediately so that when the bundle runs out,
there's no airtime to loose.

For example 20,000 for monthly Pakalast covers calls to Airtel and Warid,
5,000 SMS bundle, 40/= per SMS to all networks, then Data bundle as the need
arises. So I can call most people, SMS all and browse with 0 balance.

I then keep unscratched airtime cards on me for when any of the bundles runs
out.

For calls to networks outside the marriage, I load airtime on the  MTN
number which has no subscriptions to any services so I'll find it still on
phone even if I don't make any calls for days. 

In short, keeping unused airtime in your wallet is safer than loading it.

Joshua

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2

On Jul 19, 2013 11:10 AM, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com
mailto:k...@stormzero.com  wrote:

Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I
recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous
rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way.

On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com
mailto:jkkas...@gmail.com  wrote:

How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange
and Airtel?
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[LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost

2013-07-18 Thread okwii David
Good Morning friends,

Here's a face off between Airtel and Orange Uganda as far as their data
provisioning services are concerned.

http://bit.ly/14iDaYO

Let us know your own experiences and if the verdicts are fair enough.
Enjoy

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