Re: lug-bg: MRTG

2003-02-14 Thread Tosho Yankov


Friday, February 14, 2003, 9:41:43 AM, you wrote:

KI Ako zad edin mrejov interfeis imam poveche ot edna mreji, moga li da nakaram 
MRTG-to da chertae grafiki za vsiaka mreja pootdelno, a ne za obshtia trafik 
preminavasht prez interfeisa ?
mojesh, pusni si ipchains/iptables accounting za vsqka meja i posle
parsvai sys scritove i podavai na MRTG stoinostite.


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RE: lug-bg: MRTG

2003-02-14 Thread Jivko Velikov
Moje. Mrtg Moje da raboti s vinshni scriptove. Az naprimer go karam da
si vzema counterite ot custom iptables chainove.
Eto primer:
Mrtg.cfg

# Global configuration
WorkDir: /var/www/mrtg
WriteExpires: Yes
Target[in_packets]: '/etc/stats/iptables-in.sh' #- tova e scripta koito
dyrpa counterite
MaxBytes[in_packets]:1500
Title[in_packets]: Inbond packets

#Eto go I : /etc/stats/iptables-in.sh


iptables -nvxL | grep INPUT | grep -v Chain | awk '{ print $2 }' 

uptime | awk '{ print $3, $4 }'

Tova she ti otbroiava paketite v chain INPUT

Mojesh da si napravish custom chainove za opredeleni mreji ili adresi

-Original Message-
From: Konstantin Ivanov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: lug-bg: MRTG


Ako zad edin mrejov interfeis imam poveche ot edna mreji, moga li da
nakaram MRTG-to da chertae grafiki za vsiaka mreja pootdelno, a ne za
obshtia trafik preminavasht prez interfeisa ?

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Re: lug-bg: Problem sys Sendmail ?

2003-02-14 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Za syzhelenie ne si prav. Mano ne e vinoven v sluchaia, nito 
negovia SMTP. Problemyt e v otsreshnata strana, t.e. v MX 50
za domaina linux-bulgaria.org, a imenno sz.inetg.bg. Eto malyk
screenshot na izpitanieto na SMTP protcola vyrhu tozi server:

[root@lcpe vlk]# telnet sz.inetg.bg 25
Trying 212.5.153.171...
Connected to sz.inetg.bg (212.5.153.171).
Escape character is '^]'.
220 sz.inetg.bg AvMailGate-2.0.0.5
helo lcpe.pip.digsys.bg
250 Hello lcpe.pip.digsys.bg, pleased to meet you
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Sender OK
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
552 Relaying denied for rcpt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
quit
221 Closing connection
Connection closed by foreign host.
[root@lcpe vlk]# 

Prosto sz.inetg.bg ne relayva za tova domain. Tova edva li e
goliam problem, zashtoto sz.inetg.bg ne e MX RR s nai-visok 
prioritet v MX ierarhiata na domaina linux-bulgaria.org i 
drugite MX hostove relayvat pravilno.

Efectyt s othvyrliane na poshtata za domaina linux-bulgaria.org
mozhe da se poluchi samo ako MX 0 i MX 100 za domaina ne
rabotiat.

Spas e alarmiran za tozi efekt i sigurno shte vzeme merki.

  Pozdravi
 Vesselin Kolev

On Thursday 13 Feb 2003 13:03, Jivko Velikov wrote:
 Opravi si relay domains

 -Original Message-
 From: Marian Popov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 5:59 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: lug-bg: Problem sys Sendmail ?


 Niakoi moje li da mi kaje zashto poniakoga
 ne moga da izpratia mail do lug-bg ?
 Eto kakvo mi dava :


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 from mano.pazardjik.com [213.145.125.130]

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Re: lug-bg: MRTG

2003-02-14 Thread Teodor Georgiev


v contribute direktoriata na MRTG sorsa ima nqkolko primerni scripta.

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From: Tosho Yankov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Konstantin Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: MRTG




 Friday, February 14, 2003, 9:41:43 AM, you wrote:

 KI Ako zad edin mrejov interfeis imam poveche ot edna mreji, moga li da
nakaram MRTG-to da chertae grafiki za vsiaka mreja pootdelno, a ne za
obshtia trafik preminavasht prez interfeisa ?
 mojesh, pusni si ipchains/iptables accounting za vsqka meja i posle
 parsvai sys scritove i podavai na MRTG stoinostite.


 --
 Best regards,
 Tosho Yankov
 Support engineer
 ST Bulgaria e.o.o.d.
 Tel.:   (+359 52) 602 510
 (+359 52) 630 991
 Fax.:   (+359 52) 630 991
 Mobile: (+359 88) 987 720
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lug-bg: SendmailDNS: Dvuposochno preminavane na poshteski traffic prez edin Smart host

2003-02-14 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Zdraveite,
   Tova e malko stara tema (za naikoi :)) e bolna). No mislia, che po neia ne
e pisano v grupata, a e dobre da se napravi.

  Ideiata za Smart host se exploatira predi vsichko ot klienti na ISP. Tia
se systoi v slednoto: klientskiat MTA ne obsluzhva predavaneto na 
izhodiashtia elektronen poshtenski potok do krai, a go prepredava za
celta na SMTP host na dostavchika, koito vmesto nego izvyrshva
obrabotkata do krai. Izpolzvaneto na Smart host ima tova predimstvo,
che ako klientyt ima kanal s goliam kapacitet do svoia ISP, no malyk
izhodiasht kanal (kym mrezhi vynshni na tezi ot ISP), to toi mozhe da
oblekchi mnogo izhodiashtia si kanal (obiknoveno toi e malyk).

  ISP pyk taka si oblekchava managiraneto na traffica po protocoli i
si spestiava mrynkania ot strana na klienti.

  Taka stoiat neshtata ot gledna tochka na izhodiashtia poshtenski
traffic. Neka sega da opishem edna shema, pri koiato vhodiashtia kym
klienta poshtenski traffic se obrabotva ot SMTP servera na dostavchika.

  Pri votrata shema klienta ne tovari svoia vhodiasht kanal, a izpolzva
SMTP - servera na dostavhika i za priemane na vhodiashtia elektronen
poshteski potok. T.e. ako se nalaga da se poluchi pismo za potrebitel na
klienta, to se priema ot SMTP servera na dostavchika i se prepredava
po kanala s goliam kapacitet do SMTP servera na clienta.

  Za da se napravi tova e nuzhno da se izpolzvat DNS trikove i iptables.
Informaciata v DNS za klienstkia domain traibva da e takava, che nai-
visoko v ierarhiata na MX zapisite da stoi SMTP servera na klienta.

  Naprimer za domaina example.dom mozhe da ima slednata iaerarhia:

$ORIGIN example.dom.
MX  0   mail
MX  10  smtp.isp.dom.

Tazi ierarhia ukazva na tova, che ako mail.example.dom e nedostypen,
to vhodiashtia (!!!) elektronen poshtesnki potok shte se priema ot
smtp.isp.dom.

Sledovatelno triabva da napravire mail.example.dom nedostypen za
vsichki SMTP serveri, koito ne sa v mrezhata s goliam kapacitet na
vasheto ISP. Tova mozhete da napravite, kato zabranite dostypa do
25/tcp port s pomoshtta na iptables. Samo ne izpolzvaite politika DROP.
Mnogo e vylgarno:)) i vodi do zakysnenia na pristigashtia mail. Za
gyvkavost izpolzvaite politika REJECT pridruzhena ot ICMP syobshtenie
za nedostypnost na port 25/tcp:

iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -s ! $IP_IN_ISP_NET -p tcp -m tcp --dport 25:25 
- -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable

S tova shemata e veche rabotosposobna.

  Pozdravi
 Vesselin Kolev
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Re: lug-bg: MRTG

2003-02-14 Thread Todor Lazarov
Hello Konstantin,

Friday, February 14, 2003, 8:41:43 AM, you wrote:

KI Ako zad edin mrejov interfeis imam poveche ot edna mreji,
KI moga li da nakaram MRTG-to da chertae grafiki za vsiaka mreja pootdelno,
KI a ne za obshtia trafik preminavasht prez interfeisa ?

 contrib äèðåêòîðèÿòà èìà script êîÿòî èçâëè÷à äàííèòå ñ iptables.
Ñ ìàëêà ìîäèôèêàöèÿ ìîæå äà ñè íàïðàâèø ïðàâèëà îò chain êîéòî
äà òè ìåðÿò êàêâîòî ñè ïîèñêàø.

Àêî ìîæå è àç äà ïîñòíà åäèí âúïðîñ.

Êîå å ïî áúðçî çà èçïúëíåíèå: MRTG èëè RRD.

Èíà÷å ìîæå äà ïîãëåäíåø è òîâà: http://marla.ludost.net/stats/o

Ìíîãî ìè õàðåñâà ;-D)



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Re: RE: lug-bg: MRTG

2003-02-14 Thread Konstantin Ivanov
To hubavo samo che tova ne ti li pokazva narastvashtia broi na paketite koito 
preninavat prez INPUT verigata. Az iskam da mi pokazva tekushtoto stoinost na trafika 
ot dadena mreva pred daden interfeis.


  Îðèãèíàëíî ïèñìî 
 Îò: Jivko Velikov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Îòíîñíî: RE: lug-bg: MRTG
 Äî: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Èçïðàòåíî íà: 2003-02-14 10:54:33.0
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 Moje. Mrtg Moje da raboti s vinshni scriptove. Az naprimer go karam da
 si vzema counterite ot custom iptables chainove.
 Eto primer:
 Mrtg.cfg
 
 # Global configuration
 WorkDir: /var/www/mrtg
 WriteExpires: Yes
 Target[in_packets]: '/etc/stats/iptables-in.sh' #- tova e scripta koito
 dyrpa counterite
 MaxBytes[in_packets]:1500
 Title[in_packets]: Inbond packets
 
 #Eto go I : /etc/stats/iptables-in.sh
 
 
 iptables -nvxL | grep INPUT | grep -v Chain | awk '{ print $2 }' 
 
 uptime | awk '{ print $3, $4 }'
 
 Tova she ti otbroiava paketite v chain INPUT
 
 Mojesh da si napravish custom chainove za opredeleni mreji ili adresi
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Konstantin Ivanov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:42 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: lug-bg: MRTG
 
 
 Ako zad edin mrejov interfeis imam poveche ot edna mreji, moga li da
 nakaram MRTG-to da chertae grafiki za vsiaka mreja pootdelno, a ne za
 obshtia trafik preminavasht prez interfeisa ?
 
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Re: lug-bg: MRTG

2003-02-14 Thread raptor

|Àêî ìîæå è àç äà ïîñòíà åäèí âúïðîñ.
|
|Êîå å ïî áúðçî çà èçïúëíåíèå: MRTG èëè RRD.

]- RRD ... takmo preminawam ot mrtg kam RRD... preporychwam go na wseki..i za da wi 
]spestq cheteneto da wi kava kakwo trqbwa da naprawite... 

0. instalirate rrdtool (urpmi rrdtool, apt-get rrdtool, emerge rrdtool...)
1. ostawqte si mrtg da si raboti
2. Izkopirwate si wsichki mrtgXXX.cfg failowe w nqkoiq druga direktoriq
3. Redaktirate wsichki izkopirani failowe kato :
  - dobawqte LogFormat: rrdtool
  - promenqte WorkDir da sochi drugade (tam ste se generirat saotwetno .rrd 
failowete)
4. Dublirate wsichki linii w crontab koito imate za mrtg... samo che tozi pyt s nowite 
config failowe (toest ostawqte nqkakaw opredelen period da rabotqt zaedno pure-mrtg i 
mrtg-rrd-collector)

Ami pochti ste gotowi... weche trqbwa da wi se generirat danni :), move da pusnete 
wednyv rachno towa deto ste dobawili w crontab za da widite dali nqmate nqkakwa 
greshka...
Tuka zapochwa weche interesnata chast :)...

5. Otiwate na rrdtool.org i si dloadwate mrtg-rdd.cgi i RRgrapher.cgi
6. Kopirate si tezi failowe nqkade kadeto da ima +ExecCGI prawa (primerno /cgi-bin)
7. Redaktirate w nachaloto nqkolko promenliwi i w dwata skripta.. obshto mai bqha 4 
vars..
8. Otiwate na http://www.yoursite.org/cgi-bin/mrtg-rrd.cgi/ezwf.html  (po systiq 
nachin po koito sa pod mrtg imenata i.e. x.x.x.x_X.html)
i wivdate absolutno systite grafiki koito ste wivdali i pod mrtg, no weche se 
generirat ot rrd-baza
9. Otiwate na http://www.yoursite.org/cgi-bin/RRgrapher.cgi , a tuka weche move da si 
prawite wsqkakwi ekwilibristiki i da smeswate danni.. edin prost primer move da si 
naprawite grafika koqto da pokazwa wsichkite wi PVC plus total-a na cisco 
interfeis-a.. na edna grafika za 20 sec... zawisi kolko ste byrzi s mishkata :)
10. sled kato wsichko raboti otiwate na rrdtool.org i chetete mnogo sled 1-2 dena 
weche si prawite grafiki za kakwoto wi um zaide :)

Az sam na stypka 10 weche :) ,  prawq si primetno skriptche da mi gleda user count na 
ftp-to (pure-ftp) wsyshtnost to e elementarno (pure-ftpwho -s | wc -l) ama mai ste 
probwam RRDs.pm da go naprawq po generalno..

Ta ideqta e da si ostawite mrtg da wi sabira dannite wyw rrd-baza a da polzwate 
mrtg-rrd.cgi da wi chertae grafikata... a pak kato zadobreete da si prawite i drugi 
gawri..:)

I dwata skripta imat problemi pod mod_perl, taka che puskaite gi pod chisto CGI..

uspeh...hth
raptor

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Re: lug-bg: MRTG

2003-02-14 Thread raptor

|Ako zad edin mrejov interfeis imam poveche ot edna mreji, moga li da nakaram MRTG-to 
|da chertae grafiki za vsiaka mreja pootdelno, a ne za obshtia trafik preminavasht 
|prez interfeisa ?

]- eto nesto tuka deto bqh pochnal da pisha (mai ste trqbwa da si go dowyrsha, 
]stoto ste mi trqbwa:))..
za ideq kak da extraktwash infoto ot iptables... posle go chrez RRDs.pm go pishesh w 
rrd bazi, i posle chertaesh grafiki...

=blah.pl==
#!/usr/bin/perl
package SA::IPTExtract;

sub new {
my $this = shift;
my $class = ref($this) || $this;
my $self = {};
bless $self, $class;
$self-capture;
return $self;
}

sub display {
 my $self = shift;
 foreach my $c (keys %{$$self{stat}}) {
print Chain : $c\n;
foreach my $k (keys %{$$self{stat}{$c}}) {
print $k == $$self{stat}{$c}{$k}\n
}
 }
}


sub capture {
 my $self = shift;
 my $output = qx{iptables -L -v -n};
 my @chains = $output =~ /(?:^|(Chain.+?))(?:\n\n|$)/gs;

 for my $c (@chains) {
#get chain name
my ($name) = $c =~ /Chain (\S+)?/;
#remove header info
$c =~ s/Chain.+destination//s;

#walk all rules 
for my $line (split /\n/, $c) {
my ($bytes,$src,$dst) = (split /\s+/,$line)[1,7,8];
$$self{stat}{$name}{$src-$dst} = $bytes;
}

#print $name\n;
#print $c\n-\n;
 };
} 

1;

#
package main;
use Data::Dumper;
my $ipt = new SA::IPTExtract();
$ipt-display;
#print Dumper $ipt;

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RE: RE: lug-bg: MRTG

2003-02-14 Thread Jivko Velikov
Ami tochno , MRTG-to meri skorost a ne broi na paketite. Sravnqva
tekushtata stoinost s tazi otpredi 5 minuti ako si go nastroil v crond
da se update-va na 5 min

-Original Message-
From: Konstantin Ivanov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 12:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RE: lug-bg: MRTG


To hubavo samo che tova ne ti li pokazva narastvashtia broi na paketite
koito preninavat prez INPUT verigata. Az iskam da mi pokazva tekushtoto
stoinost na trafika ot dadena mreva pred daden interfeis.


  ïÒÉÇÉÎÁÌÎÏ ÐÉÓÍÏ 
 ïÔ: Jivko Velikov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ïÔÎÏÓÎÏ: RE: lug-bg: MRTG
 äÏ: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 éÚÐÒÁÔÅÎÏ ÎÁ: 2003-02-14 10:54:33.0
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 Moje. Mrtg Moje da raboti s vinshni scriptove. Az naprimer go karam da
si vzema counterite ot custom iptables chainove.  Eto primer:
Mrtg.cfg# Global configuration
 WorkDir: /var/www/mrtg
 WriteExpires: Yes
 Target[in_packets]: '/etc/stats/iptables-in.sh' #- tova e scripta
koito  dyrpa counterite  MaxBytes[in_packets]:1500
 Title[in_packets]: Inbond packets
 
 #Eto go I : /etc/stats/iptables-in.sh
 
 
 iptables -nvxL | grep INPUT | grep -v Chain | awk '{ print $2 }' 
 
 uptime | awk '{ print $3, $4 }'
 
 Tova she ti otbroiava paketite v chain INPUT
 
 Mojesh da si napravish custom chainove za opredeleni mreji ili adresi
  -Original Message-
 From: Konstantin Ivanov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:42 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: lug-bg: MRTG
 
 
 Ako zad edin mrejov interfeis imam poveche ot edna mreji, moga li da
nakaram MRTG-to da chertae grafiki za vsiaka mreja pootdelno, a ne za
obshtia trafik preminavasht prez interfeisa ?  
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RE: lug-bg: MRTG

2003-02-14 Thread Jivko Velikov
Tva e izlishno ako ostavish MRTG-to da ti sybira dannite. Predimstvoto
na RRD Tool ne e v izchertavaneto na grafikite , a v tova che raboti s
Round Robin Database koiato e mnogo po gyvkava I sigurna I moge da se
izpolzva za mnogo neshta

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Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 7:35 PM
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Subject: Re: lug-bg: MRTG



|áËÏ ÍÏÖÅ É ÁÚ ÄÁ ÐÏÓÔÎÁ ÅÄÉÎ ×ßÐÒÏÓ.
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|ëÏÅ Å ÐÏ ÂßÒÚÏ ÚÁ ÉÚÐßÌÎÅÎÉÅ: MRTG ÉÌÉ RRD.

]- RRD ... takmo preminawam ot mrtg kam RRD... preporychwam go na
wseki..i za da wi spestq cheteneto da wi kava kakwo trqbwa da
naprawite... 

0. instalirate rrdtool (urpmi rrdtool, apt-get rrdtool, emerge
rrdtool...) 1. ostawqte si mrtg da si raboti 2. Izkopirwate si wsichki
mrtgXXX.cfg failowe w nqkoiq druga direktoriq 3. Redaktirate wsichki
izkopirani failowe kato :
  - dobawqte LogFormat: rrdtool
  - promenqte WorkDir da sochi drugade (tam ste se generirat saotwetno
.rrd failowete) 4. Dublirate wsichki linii w crontab koito imate za
mrtg... samo che tozi pyt s nowite config failowe (toest ostawqte
nqkakaw opredelen period da rabotqt zaedno pure-mrtg i
mrtg-rrd-collector)

Ami pochti ste gotowi... weche trqbwa da wi se generirat danni :), move
da pusnete wednyv rachno towa deto ste dobawili w crontab za da widite
dali nqmate nqkakwa greshka... Tuka zapochwa weche interesnata chast
:)...

5. Otiwate na rrdtool.org i si dloadwate mrtg-rdd.cgi i RRgrapher.cgi 6.
Kopirate si tezi failowe nqkade kadeto da ima +ExecCGI prawa (primerno
/cgi-bin) 7. Redaktirate w nachaloto nqkolko promenliwi i w dwata
skripta.. obshto mai bqha 4 vars.. 8. Otiwate na
http://www.yoursite.org/cgi-bin/mrtg-rrd.cgi/ezwf.html  (po systiq
nachin po koito sa pod mrtg imenata i.e. x.x.x.x_X.html) i wivdate
absolutno systite grafiki koito ste wivdali i pod mrtg, no weche se
generirat ot rrd-baza 9. Otiwate na
http://www.yoursite.org/cgi-bin/RRgrapher.cgi , a tuka weche move da si
prawite wsqkakwi ekwilibristiki i da smeswate danni.. edin prost primer
move da si naprawite grafika koqto da pokazwa wsichkite wi PVC plus
total-a na cisco interfeis-a.. na edna grafika za 20 sec... zawisi kolko
ste byrzi s mishkata :) 10. sled kato wsichko raboti otiwate na
rrdtool.org i chetete mnogo sled 1-2 dena weche si prawite grafiki
za kakwoto wi um zaide :)

Az sam na stypka 10 weche :) ,  prawq si primetno skriptche da mi gleda
user count na ftp-to (pure-ftp) wsyshtnost to e elementarno
(pure-ftpwho -s | wc -l) ama mai ste probwam RRDs.pm da go naprawq po
generalno..

Ta ideqta e da si ostawite mrtg da wi sabira dannite wyw rrd-baza a da
polzwate mrtg-rrd.cgi da wi chertae grafikata... a pak kato zadobreete
da si prawite i drugi gawri..:)

I dwata skripta imat problemi pod mod_perl, taka che puskaite gi pod
chisto CGI..

uspeh...hth
raptor


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Re: lug-bg: SendmailDNS: Dvuposochno preminavane na poshteski traffic prez edin Smart host

2003-02-14 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Iskam samo da dopylnia neshto, zashtoto se setih, che mozhe
da ima batalni sceni sled prilaganeto na napisanoto tuk.

Po princip nedeite da izpolzvate PREROUTING i tablicata nat.
Napravete vsichko vyv verigata INPUT na tablicata filter. T.e.
praviloto da e ot roda na:

iptables -t filter -I INPUT -s ! $IP_IN_ISP_NET-p tcp -m tcp --dport 25:25 -j 
REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable

i da e v sila vyrhu SMTP servera.

Mozhete da ukazhete, che hosta e nedostizhim (a ne samo port 25/tcp):

iptables -t filter -I INPUT -s ! $IP_IN_ISP_NET-p tcp -m tcp --dport 25:25 -j 
REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-unreachable

Naposledyk sred mnogoto divotii, koito se nabliudavat v rodnoto internet
prostranstvo mnogo na moda izliza modernata zabrana za vsichko de shto
e ICMP. Obiknoveno zabranata se pravi na routera i vazhi za vytreshnite
mashini na mrezhata. Omryzna mi da govoria, che tova e malko efektivno i
zatova sega shte si spestia obiasneniata.

Shte imate problem, ako dostavchikyt vi ili vie ste zabranili izhodiashtite
ICMP paketi TYPE 3. Ako te sa zabraneni shte se poluchi edin nepriaten
efect, koito shte oporochi obiasnenata predi tova shema. Eto i ilustracia na
efecta... Kogato vynshniat SMTP server se opita da vi predade vhodiasht za
vas elektronen poshtenski potok, toi shte podade zaiavka na 25/tcp za
inicirane na sesia. SMTP servera vi shte othvyrli paketa s ICMP otgovor
za nedostizhimost na mashinata ili porta. Ako ICMP paketa byde sprian ot
niakoi ot vashite routeri ili tozi na dostavchika vi, vynshnia SMTP server
niama da znae nishto za nedostizhimostta i shte opitva novi i novi opiti za
inicirane na vryzka. Tova shte dovede do zabaviane na pristigashtite
syobshtenia, zashtoto vyprosnia vynshen SMTP server shte se zabavi
s probite kym vashia server i niama da kontaktuva vednaga sys
sledvashtia v MX ierarhiata SMTP host.

Ako ICMP paketite ot tip 3 preminavat bezprepiatstveno i stignat do
vynshnia SMTP, koito se opitva da predade kym vas poshtesnki potok,
to togava vednaga sled poluchavaneto na ICMP paketa ot vashia 
server shte kontaktuva sys sledvashtia MX v ierarhiata i zalysnenieto
shte e minimalno (ot poriadyka na 1-2 secundi) v sravnenie s priakoto
predavane kym vashia SMTP pri idealni (zabelezhete) uslovia.

  Pozdravi
 Vesselin Kolev
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Re: lug-bg: RewriteRule

2003-02-14 Thread Yavor Shahpasov
RewriteRule ^/article/([a-zA-Z]+)\.html$ /article.php?article=$1
ne sam siguren no mislia che triabva \?

s malka modifikatsia
RewriteRule /article/([a-zA-Z0-9/]+)\.([a-zA-Z]+)$ /index.php\?a=$1f=$2

tova shte prevarne

http://some.com/article/Test.html
na
http://some.com/index.php?a=Testf=html

http://some.com/article/News.pdf
na
http://some.com/index.php?a=Newsf=pdf


Koeto e tochno tova koeto mi triabva

kato se zapochna tozi thread niakoi znae li dobri tutorials za regular 
expressions.


Îãíÿí Êóëåâ wrote:

Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote:


Predi vreme i az se chudeh dali da ne si poigrai s tova - nakrai si 
napravih
otdelni .php files vmesto index.php?include=file.inc.php i da go pipna s
mod_rewrite , zastoto vav manuala pisheshe che ste mi pretovari 
procesora...


Íÿìàì ïðÿê îïèò ñ ïðåíàïèñâàùèòå ïðàâèëà íà Apache, íî çà òèÿ ïðîñòè 
ñëó÷àè âèíàãè ìîæå äà ñå íàïðàâè ðåãóëÿðåí èçðàç, êîéòî äà å 
ìàêñèìàëíî áúðç.  Öåëèÿò ïðîáëåì ñ áúðçèíàòà å, ÷å àêî èçðàçúò ñå 
îêàæå ïðåêàëåíî àë÷åí, àëãîðèòúìúò òðÿáâà äà ñå âðúùà íàçàä.  Íå ìè 
ñå ïèøàò ñòðàíèöè îáÿñíåíèÿ, íî òðÿáâà èçðàçúò äà õâàùà âúïðîñíèòå 
íèçîâå îò ðàç. Íàïðèìåð çà êîíêðåòíèÿ ñëó÷àé ìèñëÿ, ÷å åäèí äîáúð 
ðåãóëÿðåí èçðàç å:

RewriteRule ^/article/([a-zA-Z]+)\.html$ /article.php?article=$1

 ñëó÷àÿ áëàãîäàðåíèå ^ è $ íå ñå îñòàâÿ íèêàêâà âúçìîæíîñò çà 
ïðîáâàíå îò ñòðàíà íà ïðàâèëîòî êúäå áèë òîçè íèç â URL-à.  Êàòî 
ìèíèìóì â ñêîáèòå òðÿáâà äà ñòîè [^.]+, à íå íàïðèìåð .+, çà äà íå 
ñå äàâà âúçìîæíîñò çà òúðñåíå ñ âðúùàíå.  Âèæäàì, ÷å âñè÷êè ïðèìåðè â 
äîêóìåíòàöèÿòà ñà â òîçè ñòèë.

Òðÿáâà äà ñå ïðîáâà.

Ïîçäðàâè



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lug-bg: avtomatizirane na scp

2003-02-14 Thread Victor Senderov
Çäðàâåéòå,

Èìà ëè íà÷èí äà ñå çàäàäå àâòîìàòè÷íî (ñúñ ñêðèïò) ïàðîëàòà ïðè êîïèðàíå
íà ôàéëîâå ñúñ scp.   man scp ïèøå, ÷å òîâà å ñïåöèàëåí feature äà òè
èñêà ïàðîëàòà ïðåç öÿëîòî âðåìå, àìà íà ìåíå íå ìè õàðåñâà òîÿ feature ìíîãî.
Íå ìîæå ëè äà ñå çàîáèêîëè?

-- 
Ïîçäðàâè,
Âèêòîð

---

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but leaves the bleeding up to you. --
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Re: lug-bg: avtomatizirane na scp

2003-02-14 Thread Emo Terziev
moje 
 napravi si SSL tunel mejdu dvete mashini(nezavisimo 
dali sa Linix --Linux ili Linux--Windows)
i niama da ti iska parola

emo
--- Victor Senderov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Çäðàâåéòå,
 
 Èìà ëè íà÷èí äà ñå çàäàäå àâòîìàòè÷íî (ñúñ ñêðèïò)
 ïàðîëàòà ïðè êîïèðàíå
 íà ôàéëîâå ñúñ scp.   man scp ïèøå, ÷å òîâà å
 ñïåöèàëåí feature äà òè
 èñêà ïàðîëàòà ïðåç öÿëîòî âðåìå, àìà íà ìåíå íå ìè
 õàðåñâà òîÿ feature ìíîãî.
 Íå ìîæå ëè äà ñå çàîáèêîëè?
 
 -- 
 Ïîçäðàâè,
 Âèêòîð
 
 ---
 
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 but leaves the bleeding up to you. --
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lug-bg:

2003-02-14 Thread
Yavor Shahpasov wrote:

RewriteRule ^/article/([a-zA-Z]+)\.html$ /article.php?article=$1
ne sam siguren no mislia che triabva \?


Òîâà å ìåòà-çíàê ñàìî â ñàìèÿ èçðàç, íî íå è â òîâà, ñ êàêâî ñå çàìåíÿ.


kato se zapochna tozi thread niakoi znae li dobri tutorials za regular 
expressions.

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22regular+expression%22+tutorial

Ïúðâàòà íàìåðåíà ñòðàíèöà èçãëåæäà ìíîãî äîáðà.

Ïîçäðàâè
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Re: lug-bg: xine audioplugin

2003-02-14 Thread George Danchev
On 13 02 2003 14:58, Victor Senderov wrote:
 Çäðàâåéòå ãðóïà,
 
 Èìà ëè íÿêîé binaries çà xine audioplugin?  Êîéòî ñå èíòåðåñóâà çàùî
 ìè òðÿáâàò äà ÷åòå ïî-íàòàì.
 
 Ïðåäè èçâåñòíî âðåìå ñå áîðèõ äà ïîäêàðàì çâóêà íà  realplayer íà ìîÿ
 ëàïòîï è âñå íå ñòàâàøå, äàâàøå ìè: device or resource busy: /dev/dsp.
 Ïðîáâàõ äà ìàõíà arts soundserver-à, àìà íå ïîìîãíà ìíîãî.  Ïðîãðàìêàòà
 òðúãâàøå âåäíúæ íà 10 ïúòè.  Â÷åðà îòêðèõ êàêâî ïîìàãà îáà÷å, òðÿáâà
 äà ñå ïðåíàñî÷è âñè÷êî êúì âúïðîñíèÿ arts ñúñ
 
 $ artsdsp realplay
 
 è âñè÷êî å ÎÊ.  Ò.ê. èìàõ àíàëîãè÷íèòå ïðîáëåìè è ñ xine, ò.å. îò 10 ïúòè
 êàòî ñå îïèòâàì äà ãî ïóñíà, ñàìî âåäíúæ ùå òðúãíå, îñòàíàëèòå ïúòè èçëèçà
 ñ device or resource busy: /dev/dsp.  Ïðîáâàõ ñúîòâåòíî artsdsp
 realplay è, êàêòî ñå êàçâà, òðúíêè.  Ïîðîâèõ ñå â íåòà è íàìåðèõ
 ñòðàíèöàòà íà òîÿ arts plugin, îáà÷å òàì èìà òîëêîâà èíôî, ÷å ñè å *. 
 Â îáùè ëèíèè êàçâàò òè, plugin-a ãî èìà â kde cvs multimedia.  Äðúïíàõ ñè ÿ
 îò cvs, ïóñíàõ make -f Makefile.cvs, çà äà ñè íàïðàâÿ configure
 ñêðèïòîâåòå, ïîñëå ñúîòâåòíî ./configure è ïîñëå èñêàõ äà ñè build-íà
 plugin-a ñ make îò íåãîâàòà äèðåêòîðèÿ, àìà äàäå åäèí êóï ñúîáùåíèÿ çà
 ãðåøêà îò ñîðòà íà:
 
 In file included from xinePlayObject_impl.cpp:24:
 xinePlayObject_impl.h:120: syntax error before `*'
 xinePlayObject_impl.h:121: syntax error before `*'
 
 Òúé ÷å àêî íÿêîé èìà ðàáîòåùà âåðñèÿ íà òîÿ plugin, ùå ñúì ìó ìíîãî
 áëàãîäàðåí äà ìè ÿ mail-íå.

Ñ äâå äóìè èíôîðìàöèÿòà êîÿòî ñè äàë å íåäîñòàòú÷íà è íåïðåöèçíà çà äà òè ñå 
äàäå òî÷åí îòãîâîð (òðÿáâàò âåðñèè íà ñîðñîâå íà ïðîãðàìàòà, àêî å îò cvs êîé 
òàã è ò.í., çàãëàâíèòå ôàéëîâå êîèòî âêëþ÷âà è ò.í., ïîíÿêîãà è êîìïèë+ëèíêåð 
âåðñèèòå ñà âàæíè). 
Ãëåäàì, ÷å íèêîé ìàé íÿìà äà òè îòãîâîðè, íåðàçáðàõ òî÷íî è êîè ñîðñîâå ñå 
îïèòâàø äà êîìïèëèðàø, òå êàêâè .h ôàéëîâå âêëþ÷âàò (îò êîè âåðñèè, àëàáàëà), 
ñòàòè÷íî èëè äèíàìè÷íî ùå ñå ñâúðçâàò è ñ êîè áèáëèîòåêè òî÷íî, çà òîâà ùå òè 
îáÿñíÿ íàáúðçî ïî-îáùî êàê ñòîÿò íåùàòà, ïúê òè ùå ñå ñåòèø ñàì êàê äà 
ïðîöåäèðàø â òâîèòà ñèòóàöèÿ. Çíà÷è äîñòà õîðà ñè ìèñëÿò, ÷å èçïúëíÿâàéêè 
ìàãè÷åñêàòà ïîðåäèöà îò configure, make, make install âñè÷êî å ÎÊ èëè òðÿáâà 
äà áúäå ÎÊ;-)  Äîêàòî íå ñå îïðåäåëÿò òî÷íî ãîðíèòå ðàáîòè äåòî òè 
èçïèñàõ äîðè è äà íÿìà ïðîãðàìíè ãðåøêè â êîäà íÿìà äà êîìïèëèðàø è ñâúðæåø 
íèùî, ùîòî äà êàæåì íàïðèìåð íÿêúäå â ñîðñà ñå âêëþ÷âà íÿêîé ñè .h ôàéë, äà 
îáà÷å â òâîÿòà ñèñòåìà òîé ãî íÿìà èëè íå å â òî÷íàòà âåðñèÿ êîÿòî ñå î÷àêâà 
äà ñå âêëþ÷è îò ñîðñà, ñåùàø ñå êàêâà áîçà ñòàâà... (ñàì ìîæå áè ìîæåø äà ñå 
ñåòèø çà äðóãè compile/linkage failed ïðèìåðè) ...   Àêî äà êàæåì ãî èìàø 
îòíÿêúäå êîìïèëèðàíî è ñâúðçàíî äèíàìè÷íî òî ïàê íÿìà ãàðàíöèÿ ÷å ùå ñè 
íàìåðè òî÷íî â òâîéòà ñèñòåìà êîðåêòíèòå .so, .là è ò.í. áèáëèîòåêè ïðè 
ñòàðòèðàíåòî è äèíàìè÷íîòî ñâúðçâàíå... Çíà÷è îñòàâà èëè íÿêîé äà òè ãî ïðàòè 
ñâúðçàíî ñòàòè÷íî èëè òè äà ñè ãî êîìïèëèðàø ïðè òåá (ñëåä êàòî ðàçðåøèø 
ãîðíèòå óñëîâèÿ, ðàçãëåæäàéêè ñîðñà èëè äîêóìåíòàöèÿòà, àêî ÿ èìà) è ñâúðæåø 
êàêòî íàìåðèø çà äîáðå (íàé-âåðîÿòíî äèíàìè÷íî)... Òîâà ñà ò.í. (run)-depends 
è build-depends (èìà è conflicts) è â Debian íàïðèìåð ñà must -  
ïîòðåáèòåëèòå ñà îáó÷åíè è çíàÿò çà êàêâî èäå ðå÷ ïðè build-âàíå è run-âàíå. 
Åäèíñòâåíîòî êîåòî ìîãà äà çàêëþ÷à ñ 99% ñèãóðíîñò å, ÷å target system íå å 
Debian, èíà÷å íÿìàøå äà èìàø òàêèâà òåðçàíèÿ èëè ïîíå íå â òîçè ñòðàøåí âèä. 

P.S. íÿäÿâàì ñå äîñòà õîðà äà ðàçáåðàò ïîíÿòèÿòà êîìïèëèðàíå è ñâúðçâàíå è 
íåîáõîäèìîòî çà òÿõíèÿ óñïåõ, äðóãîòî å ðåëèãèÿ è ïëèòêî ãëåäàíå íà íåùàòà. 

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Re: lug-bg: avtomatizirane na scp

2003-02-14 Thread
Victor Senderov wrote:

Èìà ëè íà÷èí äà ñå çàäàäå àâòîìàòè÷íî (ñúñ ñêðèïò) ïàðîëàòà ïðè êîïèðàíå
íà ôàéëîâå ñúñ scp.


Èñòèíñêîòî ðåøåíèå å äà ñå èçïîëçâà ïóáëè÷åí êëþ÷.  Ïðî÷åòè çà ssh-agent 
 è ssh-keygen.

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lug-bg: proxy monitoring maintainance..

2003-02-14 Thread Iassen Pramatarov
 Çäðàâåéòå!
 Èìàì òðóäíîñò ñ àäìèíèñòðèðàíåòî íà ïðîêñè ñúðâúð (squid). Çíàåòå ëè íÿêîé ãîòîâ 
(ñâîáîäåí) èíñòðóìåíò çà àäìèíèñòðèðàíå è íàáëþäåíèå â ðåàëíî âðåìå íà ðàáîòàòà íà 
ïðîêñèòî? Ñòàâà äóìà çà ñëåäíèòå óïîòðåáè: À òåãëè ìíîãî è çàäðúñòâà ëèíèÿòà - íà À ìó 
ñå çàáðàíÿâà äîñòúïà, îãðàíè÷àâàò ìó ñå êîíåêöèèòå äî åäíà â åäèí è ñúù ìîìåíò, 
îãðàíè÷àâà ìó ñå âðåìåííî äîñòúïà äî ñàéòà À.com è ò.í.
 Çíàì, ÷å ìîæå äà ñè íàïèøà íåùî, íî âúïðîñúò ìè å äàëè çíàåòå íåùî ãîòîâî;) Ïîíåæå íå 
èñêàì äà èçïàäàì ïîðî÷íèÿ êðúã íà àäìèíèñòðàòîðà-ïðîãðàìèñò. È áåç òîâà àäìíèñòðèðàì 
ïðåêàëåíî ìíîãî íåùà çà ìàëêî ïàðè. ;((

  ìîìåíòà ÷åòà çà shaper è ò.í. Íî äîêàòî ãî ïóñíà ìè ñå ùå äà ìîãà äà óïðàâëÿâàì 
òðàôèêà ïðåç ïðîêñèòî.
 ÍÅ ñòàâà äóìà çà èíñòðóìåíòè çà íàáëþäåíèå ñàìî - è ñåãà ãëåäàì ëîãîâå, èçõîäà íà 
iptraf è ipfm. Íî å áàâíî.

Íÿêàêâè èäåè?
Ìåðñè ïðåäâàðèòåëíî ;)

-- 
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  aka Turin

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Re: lug-bg: proxy monitoring maintainance..

2003-02-14 Thread raptor
]- Towa koeto tyrsish e delay pools wiv w dokumentaciqta na Squid.. A za 
]administrirane pogledni WebMin..
Za sledene hubawki programki sa : iftop i nload

| Çäðàâåéòå!
| Èìàì òðóäíîñò ñ àäìèíèñòðèðàíåòî íà ïðîêñè ñúðâúð (squid). Çíàåòå ëè íÿêîé ãîòîâ 
|(ñâîáîäåí) èíñòðóìåíò çà àäìèíèñòðèðàíå è íàáëþäåíèå â ðåàëíî âðåìå íà ðàáîòàòà íà 
|ïðîêñèòî? Ñòàâà äóìà çà ñëåäíèòå óïîòðåáè: À òåãëè ìíîãî è çàäðúñòâà ëèíèÿòà - íà À 
|ìó ñå çàáðàíÿâà äîñòúïà, îãðàíè÷àâàò ìó ñå êîíåêöèèòå äî åäíà â åäèí è ñúù ìîìåíò, 
|îãðàíè÷àâà ìó ñå âðåìåííî äîñòúïà äî ñàéòà À.com è ò.í.
| Çíàì, ÷å ìîæå äà ñè íàïèøà íåùî, íî âúïðîñúò ìè å äàëè çíàåòå íåùî ãîòîâî;) Ïîíåæå 
|íå èñêàì äà èçïàäàì ïîðî÷íèÿ êðúã íà àäìèíèñòðàòîðà-ïðîãðàìèñò. È áåç òîâà 
|àäìíèñòðèðàì ïðåêàëåíî ìíîãî íåùà çà ìàëêî ïàðè. ;((
|
|  ìîìåíòà ÷åòà çà shaper è ò.í. Íî äîêàòî ãî ïóñíà ìè ñå ùå äà ìîãà äà óïðàâëÿâàì 
|òðàôèêà ïðåç ïðîêñèòî.
| ÍÅ ñòàâà äóìà çà èíñòðóìåíòè çà íàáëþäåíèå ñàìî - è ñåãà ãëåäàì ëîãîâå, èçõîäà íà 
|iptraf è ipfm. Íî å áàâíî.
|
|Íÿêàêâè èäåè?
|Ìåðñè ïðåäâàðèòåëíî ;)
|
|-- 
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|  aka Turin
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Re: lug-bg: RABOTA. LINUX GURU WANTED

2003-02-14 Thread Valentin Tzankov
Az predi vreme post-nah objava za project tuk i na njakolko drugi mesta,
beshe za short-term. Otgovori mi edna macedonska albanka,
za goljama moja iznenada, az se otnesoh do izvesna stepen skeptichno
(predrasydatzi kakvo da se pravi), no mojte shefove mnogo ja haresaha
po-vreme na interview-to, tja se okaza naistina mnogo dobra s 
programirane na systemno nivo(C/C++)
a systo v resumeto si pishe che razrabotvala GUI prilojenia s Qt,
dokolkoto znam si tyrsi postojanna rabota i ne e problem da jivee v Sofia.
Ako ne e problem che ne e Bulgarin ( govori macedonski + english)
moga da i pratja e-mail-a ti, systo ima samo 2g. prof. opit (rabotila e 
za Siemens),
no predi tova e razrabotvala jako pod Linux kato studentka v Oslo.

Rado S wrote:


Rabota po proekti za LINUX GURU S 5+ opit v razrabotvaneto na SOFTWARE 
v USER I KERNEL MODE.

Rado S




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Re: lug-bg: RABOTA. LINUX GURU WANTED

2003-02-14 Thread Rado S

Valio,

Chestit imen den parvo. Mersi mnogo, ako iskash mi prati resumeto i, ne me 
pretesniava narodnosta, stiga da znae kakvo pravi. Otnosno tova dali e sofia 
ili drugade sashto ne e tolko goliam problem. Stava vapros za rabota po 
proekti.


Pozdravi,

// rado





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Subject: Re: lug-bg: RABOTA. LINUX GURU WANTED
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:43:43 -0500

Az predi vreme post-nah objava za project tuk i na njakolko drugi mesta,
beshe za short-term. Otgovori mi edna macedonska albanka,
za goljama moja iznenada, az se otnesoh do izvesna stepen skeptichno
(predrasydatzi kakvo da se pravi), no mojte shefove mnogo ja haresaha
po-vreme na interview-to, tja se okaza naistina mnogo dobra s programirane 
na systemno nivo(C/C++)
a systo v resumeto si pishe che razrabotvala GUI prilojenia s Qt,
dokolkoto znam si tyrsi postojanna rabota i ne e problem da jivee v Sofia.
Ako ne e problem che ne e Bulgarin ( govori macedonski + english)
moga da i pratja e-mail-a ti, systo ima samo 2g. prof. opit (rabotila e za 
Siemens),
no predi tova e razrabotvala jako pod Linux kato studentka v Oslo.

Rado S wrote:


Rabota po proekti za LINUX GURU S 5+ opit v razrabotvaneto na SOFTWARE v 
USER I KERNEL MODE.

Rado S




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Re: lug-bg: Mem usage LinuxWindows

2003-02-14 Thread George Danchev
On 12 02 2003 19:17, Valentin Tzankov wrote:
 Pri nas problema beshe mnogo interesen, no njamashe nisto obsto s
 Gnome i Kernel-a, 

aaa tova ve4e e po-seriozno... V pyrvite si postingi kakto beshe opisal 
nestata, bez da imam vasheto code pred men na men mi blyskashe (t.e. 
mirisheshe) 4e ste napravili programa za benchmarking, t.e. da exhaus-va VM i 
veroqtno CPU... vmesto da vyrshi tova koeto iskate byrzo i optimalno;-) ... 
Za tova ti prevedoh primer s zaemaneto i puskaneto na pamet i kolko i kak 
mozhe bi go pravite vie (t.e. da ne bi da projte 5 za 6 )...  Tova li4eshe ot 
byrzite zaklu4eniq 4e VM e vinovna stoto ne osvobozhdava pamet koqto vie 
naj-veroqtno neiskate da osvobozhdavate s instructions ot vashiq code... o 4e 
iskate da blyskate na diska prez swapping-a, vmesto v files v nqkoq fs...;-) 
Vyobste mirisheshe na rabota po4nata nabyrzo ili nedoogledana...  Da ne 
govorim 4e IBM, SGI i HP, veroqtno i drugi sa slagali 2.4 kernel milioni pyti 
pod obsadata na Valano Bench i drugi instarumenti za izstezaniq i izvrysteniq 
v tozi branch, sled koeto sledva (predlozheniq za) tunning ofcoz ;-) ... Tova 
po-nadolu e interesno, no out of my range...

 nasto prilojenie
 polzva edin ogromen masiv kojto go polochavame ot OracleExpress,
 18 Dimensionen Cube, kato njakoj ot dimensiite imat po njakolko miliona
 zapisa i sa s dyrvovidna structura kojato ima zapochva vinagi ot edin
 element, idejata e ot tozi kub da se pravjat Ad-Hoc reporti s Drill Down
 na tezi dimensii, kato vsjaka kletka ot tozi Kub e 42 bitivo chislo
 kato 0-te otgovarjat na sql false where statment,  a 1 na true,
 t.e nie imame 42 sql statementi,
 koito ot druga strana sa resultat na mnojestvo ot 18 dimensii.
 Ta tazi struktora se zarejda v pametta i taka za po-malko ot sec se
 generira report ot 12Tb DB, tyj kato tova 42 bitovo chislo e Primary Keys,
 tazi shema raboti mnogo dobre zastoto veche zaredenite danni nikoga ne se
 promenjat, i trjabva samo da se dobavjat novi zapisi, znam che ako njakoj
 razbira ot OLAP, ste me kaje che ne polzvame OracleExpress taka kakto pishe
 po knigete, no tova e dylyg razgovor i ne e za tazi grupa, a i az ne sym mu
 Architect. Prilojenieto be razraboteno za HTML clienti, no poradi obema mu
 e v tvyrde ogrnichen variant, v kojto goljama chast ot Dimensiite sa
 predefinirani za konkreten User, primerno John Smith moje da polzva samo
 dani za Auto-Industry.
 I zatova se naloji da razrabotim Gnome Client, s kojto da se generirat
 po-slojni reporti po porychka.

t.e. za GTK-based client stava vypros.

 Ta da se vyrna na dumata za pammeta, poneje poluchavame dimensiite ot
 Oracle Express tam te gi razdeljat na Sparse(redki) i Dense(plytni), sparse
 sa tezi za koito chisloto e neka da kajem 90% ot sluchaite 0, i te sa 12
 Dimensii v nashija sluchaj, za tjah v nashija algoritam zadeljame pamet
 samo za ne-0-te,
 okaza se che Oracle Express ni kazva che vsichki Dimensii sa Dense
 vypreki tova ne poluchavame informatzia ot Oracle Express za 0 v Sparse
 Dimensiite, no nie sme propusnali tozi moment. Inache poneje polzvame
 NautilusMetaView componenti za da pokazvame Dimensiite
 te sa preraboteni estestveno za nasheto prilojenie, ta te si izjazdat 0.8
 Mb na vsjako otvarjane, ostava da namerim i kyde e tozi problem i sme v
 kakto tuk kazvat We are in Good Shape tova mi e pyrvia project pod Linux,
 estestveno ne broja tezi s java i moga da kaza  che e lesno
 i trudno proradi edna i systa prichina Ogromnia Obem Source Code,

aaa zna4i bad ili untuned user space code ;-) ... Sega az ot Oracle i t.n. 
neiskam da razbiram, vie si znaete (edinstvenoto losho koeto moga da kazha e 
4e e ugly binary;-), no ne moga da tvyrdq 4e ne e full-featured, fast and 
robust, 4uval sym 4e e i to dosta, osobeno kogato trebe da nosi zverski mnogo 
i to byrzo)..., a i v slu4aq s po-vazhno tova 4e ste sednali da trace-nete 
problema i ve4e si znaete 4e e v vashata 4ast. Linux kernel-a prosto vi 
obsluzhva povikvaniqta...

 Bih dal syvet navseki kojto se zahvasta s takova nesto da ne polzva cjujdi
 componenti taka kakto sa, a da gi prerabotva t.e. Refactoring
 e edinstvenia nachin da razberesh chujd code, pone za men, i da go polzvash
 optimalno, mnogo polezna mi beshe knigata na Martin Fowler,
 po vyprosa www.refactoring.com(jalko che primerite ne sa na C/C++),

dodohme deto trqbva ;-). qvno ste da e dobro 4etivo... 

 a i sled 6 mesetza C/C++ veche mislja samo za Java.

i Java ne moga da komentiram, mozhe bi imash pravo, zavisi kakvo pravite vse 
pak de, vie si znaete to4no... 

P.S. Vizhdash li 4e kolkoto i old timer programist da si, kato poglednesh 
plitko na nestata - s dve tri povyrhnostni dogatki, padash dosta v o4ite i na 
newcomers... Zabii dva-tri to4ni guess-a, 4e da padnat 5-6 old unix gurus, 
togava ve4e se opravqt nestata i vsi4ko si idva na mqstoto seriozno i 
zadylbo4eno. 

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lug-bg: Span Filter

2003-02-14 Thread Valentin Tzankov
Njakoj probval li e BogoFilter za span,
zvuchi mnogo obeditelno, no mi e ljubopitno dali ste raboti.
http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/synd/2003/01/30/bogofilter.html


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Re: lug-bg: Mem usage LinuxWindows

2003-02-14 Thread Valentin Tzankov
P.S. Vizhdash li 4e kolkoto i old timer programist da si, kato poglednesh 
plitko na nestata - s dve tri povyrhnostni dogatki, padash dosta v o4ite i na 
newcomers... 

Da si programmist ne e kato da si hirurg, v smisyl vse oste nestata sa sravnitelno
otnositelni i njama routinn-i praktiki koito s vremeto da utvyrjdavash, taka che opita kato
prodyljitelnost ne ot goljamo znachenie i ne garantira kachestvo.
Az lichno si spomnjam sto igra s pammetta beshe da nakaram edin spell checker
da raboti snosno pod 286 s 1 Mb pamet ot koito mojeshe da se polzva 600K,
tezi tehniki biha doveli do zabivane na OS sega, predpolagam.


(edinstvenoto losho koeto moga da kazha e 4e e ugly binary;-)
Oracle Express 
Tova e OLAP ne e DB, no i DB-to koeto polzvame e Oracle. 
V sveta na RDMS open-source za syjalenie e tvyrde dalech,
prosto mySQL i PostgresSQL sa na svetlinni godini ot Oracle, Sybase, Informix i DB2
dori mislja che sa daleche ot bazichki kato MS SQL Server i Watcom SQL(Sybase Anywhere),
makar che za Web Sitove i malki firmi, kakvito sa povecheto v BG, sa chudesni.
Mislja che Sybase ili Informix moje bi ste si otvoriat source code,
te i bes tova sa zagubili vojnata i mogat samo da specheljat ot tova.

 a i sled 6 mesetza C/C++ veche mislja samo za Java.
i Java ne moga da komentiram, mozhe bi imash pravo, zavisi kakvo pravite vse 
pak de, vie si znaete to4no... 

Tova koeto pravim ne stava za Java, mojta misyl beshe che pod
java ne mislish tolkova za pamett-a prosto edinsvenia problem e da osvobodish 
vsichki reference, a za tzelta si imash finalize() i finally systo, 
a GC si svyrsva ostanaloto, prosto Java-ta si dejstva razglezvasto zabravjash
za distziplinata kojato se nalaga da spazvash pod C/C++.








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lug-bg: Sendmail vulnerability

2003-02-14 Thread Konstantin Angelov


Just an FYI. Proverqvaite za patch po chesto ot tuk natatuka - ne se znae
tochno koga shte izleze oficialno tazi informacia na bql svqt


[snip]

[02:35pm]rrognlie hey
[02:35pm]rrognlie yes, I know
[02:35pm]rrognlie and I've been sworn to not reveal anything until
either 1) it
leaks through back channels
[02:36pm]rrognlie or 2) it gets released publicly...
[02:36pm]rrognlie it's nasty.
[02:36pm]rrognlie s/nasty/potentially/
[02:36pm]jeffw any idea when we'll see a patch?
[02:36pm]rrognlie the patch is done
[02:36pm]rrognlie but we can't release it until it's announced
[02:37pm]jeffw patch only to 8.12?
[02:37pm]scottm how far back is sendmail affected?
[02:37pm]rrognlie nope... 8.8, 8.9, 8.10, 8.11, 8.12
[02:37pm]jeffw this is gonna be ugly
[02:37pm]rrognlie yes
[02:37pm]scottm expletive deleted
[02:37pm]rrognlie there are national security issues that need to be
addressed
before it's announced
[02:38pm]jeffw you're kidding?
[02:38pm]rrognlie the patch protects not only the MTA, but any
downstream MTAs
(which is nice)
[02:38pm]mike_ whitehouse.gov needs to patch their servers

[/snip]


Konstantin Angelov
Yellowbrix Inc.
(703) 519-1099 - work
(703) 548-9151 - fax


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Re: lug-bg: Sendmail vulnerability

2003-02-14 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski
Konstantin Angelov wrote:
 
 Just an FYI. Proverqvaite za patch po chesto ot tuk natatuka - ne se znae
 tochno koga shte izleze oficialno tazi informacia na bql svqt
 
 
 [snip]
 
 [02:35pm]rrognlie hey
 [02:35pm]rrognlie yes, I know
 [02:35pm]rrognlie and I've been sworn to not reveal anything until
 either 1) it
 leaks through back channels
 [02:36pm]rrognlie or 2) it gets released publicly...
 [02:36pm]rrognlie it's nasty.
 [02:36pm]rrognlie s/nasty/potentially/
 [02:36pm]jeffw any idea when we'll see a patch?
 [02:36pm]rrognlie the patch is done
 [02:36pm]rrognlie but we can't release it until it's announced
 [02:37pm]jeffw patch only to 8.12?
 [02:37pm]scottm how far back is sendmail affected?
 [02:37pm]rrognlie nope... 8.8, 8.9, 8.10, 8.11, 8.12
 [02:37pm]jeffw this is gonna be ugly
 [02:37pm]rrognlie yes
 [02:37pm]scottm expletive deleted
 [02:37pm]rrognlie there are national security issues that need to be
 addressed
 before it's announced
 [02:38pm]jeffw you're kidding?
 [02:38pm]rrognlie the patch protects not only the MTA, but any
 downstream MTAs
 (which is nice)
 [02:38pm]mike_ whitehouse.gov needs to patch their servers
 
 [/snip]

Ili za po-lesno ne izpolzvaite tozi piece of crap, narechen za blagozvuchie
sendmail.


-- 
Georgi Chorbadzhiyski
http://georgi.unixsol.org/


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