[LUTE] Re: Luthomania
Hello Ed, I just made regular search with keyword lute (also liuto, laute, luth etc...) on YT, asking for more recent posts... Val ;-) - Original Message - From: [1]Ed Durbrow To: [2]Sauvage Valery ; [3]LuteNet list Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Luthomania Very much enjoyed that. Where are you finding all these people Valery? On Apr 12, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Sauvage Valery wrote: To see... [1][4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8sbyY-kvU Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [5]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp [6]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- References 1. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 2. mailto:sauvag...@orange.fr 3. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8sbyY-kvU 5. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 6. http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Luthomania
Philippe Malfeyt (B) is lute teacher at the conservatoria of Brussel/Bruxelles, Gent/Gand and Leuven/Louvain Unfortunately there is only one lute pupil this year. Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Sauvage Valéry [mailto:sauvag...@orange.fr] Verzonden: zondag 12 april 2009 7:58 Aan: LuteNet list Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Luthomania Hello Ed, I just made regular search with keyword lute (also liuto, laute, luth etc...) on YT, asking for more recent posts... Val ;-) - Original Message - From: [1]Ed Durbrow To: [2]Sauvage Valery ; [3]LuteNet list Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Luthomania Very much enjoyed that. Where are you finding all these people Valery? On Apr 12, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Sauvage Valery wrote: To see... [1][4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8sbyY-kvU Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [5]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp [6]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- References 1. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 2. mailto:sauvag...@orange.fr 3. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8sbyY-kvU 5. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 6. http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Luthomania
Gee the lute is the slow one :) There is a shortage of lute students. You see it everywhere, very sad. Probably we will see cuts in the programs. d At 01:30 AM 4/12/2009, you wrote: Philippe Malfeyt (B) is lute teacher at the conservatoria of Brussel/Bruxelles, Gent/Gand and Leuven/Louvain Unfortunately there is only one lute pupil this year. Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Sauvage Valéry [mailto:sauvag...@orange.fr] Verzonden: zondag 12 april 2009 7:58 Aan: LuteNet list Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Luthomania Hello Ed, I just made regular search with keyword lute (also liuto, laute, luth etc...) on YT, asking for more recent posts... Val ;-) - Original Message - From: [1]Ed Durbrow To: [2]Sauvage Valery ; [3]LuteNet list Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Luthomania Very much enjoyed that. Where are you finding all these people Valery? On Apr 12, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Sauvage Valery wrote: To see... [1][4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8sbyY-kvU Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [5]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp [6]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- References 1. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 2. mailto:sauvag...@orange.fr 3. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8sbyY-kvU 5. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 6. http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: New web page
Dear Arthur, Thanks for your appreciation, and I look forward to your comments. The Castelfranco duet was indeed published by the Lute Soc but I can't find it - it would help if I knew which issue of Lute News it was in, as I have them all (somewhere!). The story about Julian Bream is interesting - thanks for passing it on. Best wishes, Martin Arthur Ness wrote: Dear Martin! What a wonderful page! Congratulations, and (of course) thank you for the nice words. I've been making a few notes, and will send some comments privately. I say comments, because there is little on your Francesco page with which I would take issue. As for the third duet about which G. Crona inquired, it has been published by the Lute Society (UK). It must be listed in that section about free music on their web site. It also is in an article on the Castelfranco MS by first name?? Rossi in Venice. (I have the citation in a message I recently sent to a composer in Italy. I'll send it on to you, since it contains more information about that manuscript that you may wish to see.) By the way, I'm so pleased you resisted calling grand staff transcriptions of lute music keyboard. This is terminology created in the guitar world, and is inaccurate when applied to lute music. The harp and marimba, for example, use the grand staff, but their notation is not called keyboard. The grand staff has long been the accepted way to write down lute music in pitch notation. The false terminology causes the uninitaited to believe the transcripions are adaptations for keyboard. That Bream recording really did put Francesco on the map. (I suspect he was one of the referees who approved my edition for pubication.) The HUP edition became the Press's best seller, and outsold books of music by better known compsers like Leclaire, Holborne, Sammartini and Scarlatti. All of the Francesco works that Bream selected appear in English sources, although he did use my edition. (That recording is still available on CD.) He said, in a published interview, that he often couldn't fully understand Francesco's music until he saw my transcriptions. This is mainly because some guitarists didn't understand the use of barlines in lute tablatures. Their transcriptions should carry the meter sign of 1/1.g On that CD, Bream considered those English ballad variations as settings (as in a piece of jewelry) for Francesco's gems. =AJN (Boston, Mass.)= My Web Page: Scores http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepq31c/arthurjnesslutescores/ Other Matters: http://mysite.verizon.net/arthurjness/ http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepq31c/musexx/ === - Original Message - From: Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 10:31 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: New web page | Dear Goeran, | | I can't find my copy, I think it was in Lute News about 3-4 years ago. | | Can anyone fill in the missing details? | | M | | G. Crona wrote: | ??? (recently discovered) | | Martin, please!!! You must know about this one | | G. | | | | To get on or off this list see list information at | http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Luthomania
My radar missed him until now. He keeps a low profile for such a good player. On Apr 12, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Greet Schamp wrote: Philippe Malfeyt (B) is lute teacher at the conservatoria of Brussel/Bruxelles, Gent/Gand and Leuven/Louvain Unfortunately there is only one lute pupil this year. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: New web page
Dear Martin: I found the Francesco Castelfranco duet listed as tablature sheet C 420 - at least I think it's 420, since the last digit is blurred. Thanks for your wonderful Francesco site. Well done, as usual. Best wishes, Ron Andrico www.mignarda.com Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:25:43 +0100 To: arthurjn...@verizon.net CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: mar...@luteshop.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: New web page Dear Arthur, Thanks for your appreciation, and I look forward to your comments. The Castelfranco duet was indeed published by the Lute Soc but I can't find it - it would help if I knew which issue of Lute News it was in, as I have them all (somewhere!). The story about Julian Bream is interesting - thanks for passing it on. Best wishes, Martin Arthur Ness wrote: Dear Martin! What a wonderful page! Congratulations, and (of course) thank you for the nice words. I've been making a few notes, and will send some comments privately. I say comments, because there is little on your Francesco page with which I would take issue. As for the third duet about which G. Crona inquired, it has been published by the Lute Society (UK). It must be listed in that section about free music on their web site. It also is in an article on the Castelfranco MS by first name?? Rossi in Venice. (I have the citation in a message I recently sent to a composer in Italy. I'll send it on to you, since it contains more information about that manuscript that you may wish to see.) By the way, I'm so pleased you resisted calling grand staff transcriptions of lute music keyboard. This is terminology created in the guitar world, and is inaccurate when applied to lute music. The harp and marimba, for example, use the grand staff, but their notation is not called keyboard. The grand staff has long been the accepted way to write down lute music in pitch notation. The false terminology causes the uninitaited to believe the transcripions are adaptations for keyboard. That Bream recording really did put Francesco on the map. (I suspect he was one of the referees who approved my edition for pubication.) The HUP edition became the Press's best seller, and outsold books of music by better known compsers like Leclaire, Holborne, Sammartini and Scarlatti. All of the Francesco works that Bream selected appear in English sources, although he did use my edition. (That recording is still available on CD.) He said, in a published interview, that he often couldn't fully understand Francesco's music until he saw my transcriptions. This is mainly because some guitarists didn't understand the use of barlines in lute tablatures. Their transcriptions should carry the meter sign of 1/1.g On that CD, Bream considered those English ballad variations as settings (as in a piece of jewelry) for Francesco's gems. =AJN (Boston, Mass.)= My Web Page: Scores http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepq31c/arthurjnesslutescores/ Other Matters: http://mysite.verizon.net/arthurjness/ http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepq31c/musexx/ === - Original Message - From: Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 10:31 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: New web page | Dear Goeran, | | I can't find my copy, I think it was in Lute News about 3-4 years ago. | | Can anyone fill in the missing details? | | M | | G. Crona wrote: | ??? (recently discovered) | | Martin, please!!! You must know about this one | | G. | | | | To get on or off this list see list information at | http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html __ Rediscover Hotmail(R): Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. [1]Check it out. -- References 1. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates1_042009
[LUTE] Re: Luthomania
This is great. Wonderful mix of sounds and influences. The actual piece they're playing is OK, but it would be great if a group of great players like this could do some more interesting music. I suppose its just for fun, though. Chris --- On Sun, 4/12/09, Sauvage Valéry sauvag...@orange.fr wrote: From: Sauvage Valéry sauvag...@orange.fr Subject: [LUTE] Luthomania To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009, 12:41 AM To see... [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8sbyY-kvU V. -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8sbyY-kvU To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Luthomania
I don't have the same feeling, I have so many messages on Youtube by people starting lute (often with ems instruments...) And I also see here in France many lute classes with childrens* (more than past years) and see the young composers joining recently... Val (optimistic) * PS see picts of the French lute days, with the class of Claire Antonini : http://www.sf-luth.org/Album_SFL/Journees_du_luth_Paris_2009/slides/IMG_2556.html - Original Message - From: David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 11:06 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Luthomania Gee the lute is the slow one :) There is a shortage of lute students. You see it everywhere, very sad. Probably we will see cuts in the programs. d At 01:30 AM 4/12/2009, you wrote: Philippe Malfeyt (B) is lute teacher at the conservatoria of Brussel/Bruxelles, Gent/Gand and Leuven/Louvain Unfortunately there is only one lute pupil this year. Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Sauvage Valéry [mailto:sauvag...@orange.fr] Verzonden: zondag 12 april 2009 7:58 Aan: LuteNet list Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Luthomania Hello Ed, I just made regular search with keyword lute (also liuto, laute, luth etc...) on YT, asking for more recent posts... Val ;-) - Original Message - From: [1]Ed Durbrow To: [2]Sauvage Valery ; [3]LuteNet list Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Luthomania Very much enjoyed that. Where are you finding all these people Valery? On Apr 12, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Sauvage Valery wrote: To see... [1][4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8sbyY-kvU Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [5]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp [6]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- References 1. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 2. mailto:sauvag...@orange.fr 3. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8sbyY-kvU 5. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 6. http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Luthomania
They made a cd a couple of years ago http://lute-academy.be/CMSimple/downloads/Geluit16.pdf p 15 their cd See also http://lute-academy.be/CMSimple/downloads/Geluit05.pdf page 4 for a review of a concert http://lute-academy.be/CMSimple/downloads/Geluit06.pdf p 3 for pictures of Philippe -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: chriswi...@yahoo.com [mailto:chriswi...@yahoo.com] Verzonden: zondag 12 april 2009 15:47 Aan: Lute List; Sauvage Valéry Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Luthomania This is great. Wonderful mix of sounds and influences. The actual piece they're playing is OK, but it would be great if a group of great players like this could do some more interesting music. I suppose its just for fun, though. Chris --- On Sun, 4/12/09, Sauvage Valéry sauvag...@orange.fr wrote: From: Sauvage Valéry sauvag...@orange.fr Subject: [LUTE] Luthomania To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009, 12:41 AM To see... [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8sbyY-kvU V. -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8sbyY-kvU To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
