[LUTE] Re: Things to play in quarantine
Unfortunately, the problem you're describing is caused by latency over the internet. So, teleconferencing apps like FaceTime, Zoom, and Skype won't allow you to play with other musicians. It will definitely sound like cacophony as you described. Here's a good article describing the problem: [1]https://www.sweetwater.com/insync/online-band-practices-possible/. There are some workarounds for this in the form of certain apps and devices. The problem is that if the app or device is intended to minimize latency and the further you are away from the other musicians and the slower your connection speeds, the more latency you will experience. But it may be worth a try in these difficult times to connect with others to play duets and beyond. Here are the apps listed in the article above: [2]https://www.jamkazam.com (a separate desktop device is recommended) [3]https://www.cockos.com/ninjam/ (this app doesn't appear to deal directly with latency) [4]http://llcon.sourceforge.net (this app appears to upload individual musician tracks, mixes them and then downloads the mixed result as a single track to each collaborator) [5]https://www.facebook.com/eJamming-368668856036/ (their website doesn't seem to be active) I have only had limited experience with JamKazam without the recommended device trying to play duets with a friend in our town and I quickly gave up on it. My internet speed is relatively slow so without the device I was probably hindered in my ability to use the app. It would be a good idea to search on the internet to see how successful these apps are before spending much time with any one of them. Hope this helps, Bill Eisele __ From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu on behalf of howard posner Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:30 PM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Things to play in quarantine > On Mar 23, 2020, at 8:12 AM, Diego Cantalupi wrote: > > Each one with his/her phone. > > Il 23/03/2020 16:11, Dr. Henner Kahlert ha scritto: >> Wonderful! With which device did you manage to play and record this? Could you share how you did it? Two days ago I tried to lead our small congregation in a virtual service using Zoom, and it was impossible to synchronize it. Even if our mouths were moving in unison, it was cacophony. To get on or off this list see list information at [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. https://www.sweetwater.com/insync/online-band-practices-possible/ 2. https://www.jamkazam.com/ 3. https://www.cockos.com/ninjam/ 4. http://llcon.sourceforge.net/ 5. https://www.facebook.com/eJamming-368668856036/ 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute and guitar
Dear Franz, I went back to the classical guitar after many years, but also wanted to continue to play the lute. I grew my nails out, but found that it was too difficult to play the lute with nails from a tone perspective as well as concern about damaging the soundboard. So, I filed my nails back and adopted a system used by my guitar teacher when he breaks a nail. I buy a pack of false glue on-type plastic nails from either the drugstore or beauty supply store and file and polish a set to the preferred shape for the p, i, m, a fingernails and attach them to my real nails when playing guitar using 0.5 inch round permanent glue dots that can be found in stationary supply stores. It helps to wash your hands before attaching them to remove natural skin oils so they won't peel off easily during playing. Tonally, the sound using the plastic nail is, in my opinion, just as good as with the real nail. Also, they won't come off unless you are playing rasgueado with your thumb nail (then just use a piece of first aid tape for the thumb nail). I can tug on the plastic nail and it actually feels like my real nail when it's attached with a fresh glue dot When you're ready to remove them, just rotate them gently away from the real nail. Running your hand under warm water helps to soften the glue dot and remove the plastic nails easily - the glue dot will stay on the back of the plastic nail. Because the plastic nails last basically forever, I find it much easier to play classical guitar with these nails than having to continually shape and polish my real nails. I also never have to worry about breaking a real nail. The glue dots last a couple of weeks before they dry out and need to be replaced. That is easily done by using a large diameter needle (I use something called a bodkin used in fly tying) to skewer the glue dot and rotate it around the needle until it is removed from the back of the fake nail. While not in use, I keep them stored in a seven-day pill box with the lids labeled p, i, m, and a, along with extra nails and glue dots. This system was actually invented by Rico Stover and if you don't want to pull the supplies together individually, everything can be ordered as a package via Rico's web site: www.ricoguitarnails.com. He calls it the Emergency Nail Kit. I don't know Rico, but I believe my teacher got the idea from him. Hope this helps. Best regards, Bill Eisele Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:13:56 +0100 To: chriswi...@yahoo.com; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: franz.mechs...@northumbria.ac.uk Subject: [LUTE] Lute and guitar Dear Christopher, (and dear lute wisdom), I just see that you are playing and teaching the guitar as well as the lute. How do you manage to play both instruments regarding nails (and maybe other problems)? I am juggling between having the nails long when focusing on the guitar, thereby neglecting the lute, having intermediate nails while playing both instruments and short nails while playing the lute and vihuela, thereby now and then playing my guitar with finger tips. I would be interested how other people manage the problem(s) of loving instruments of both types. Best Franz -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Lute and guitar
Dear All, One thing I forgot to mention. If the plastic nail has too much of an arch in it compared to your natural nail, heat the plastic nail up in a water bath in a microwave for 30 seconds or so, remove it quickly, and push down on it with a fork against a flat surface. It might take a couple of tries, but you will get it into the desired arch without a large gap between your nail and the plastic nail. A small gap will be filled with the glue dot. Best, Bill Eisele Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 13:36:29 +0900 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute and guitar I don't know if this helps Franz, but it helps me. I'm going to look for Qwick Nail adhesive dots here in Japan. I never heard of such a thing. On Aug 29, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Bill Eisele wrote: Dear Franz, I went back to the classical guitar after many years, but also wanted to continue to play the lute. I grew my nails out, but found that it was too difficult to play the lute with nails from a tone perspective as well as concern about damaging the soundboard. So, I filed my nails back and adopted a system used by my guitar teacher when he breaks a nail. I buy a pack of false glue on-type plastic nails from either the drugstore or beauty supply store and file and polish a set to the preferred shape for the p, i, m, a fingernails and attach them to my real nails when playing guitar using 0.5 inch round permanent glue dots that can be found in stationary supply stores. It helps to wash your hands before attaching them to remove natural skin oils so they won't peel off easily during playing. Tonally, the sound using the plastic nail is, in my opinion, just as good as with the real nail. Also, they won't come off unless you are playing rasgueado with your thumb nail (then just use a piece of first aid tape for the thumb nail). I can tug on the plastic nail and it actually feels like my real nail when it's attached with a fresh glue dot When you're ready to remove them, just rotate them gently away from the real nail. Running your hand under warm water helps to soften the glue dot and remove the plastic nails easily - the glue dot will stay on the back of the plastic nail. Because the plastic nails last basically forever, I find it much easier to play classical guitar with these nails than having to continually shape and polish my real nails. I also never have to worry about breaking a real nail. The glue dots last a couple of weeks before they dry out and need to be replaced. That is easily done by using a large diameter needle (I use something called a bodkin used in fly tying) to skewer the glue dot and rotate it around the needle until it is removed from the back of the fake nail. While not in use, I keep them stored in a seven-day pill box with the lids labeled p, i, m, and a, along with extra nails and glue dots. This system was actually invented by Rico Stover and if you don't want to pull the supplies together individually, everything can be ordered as a package via Rico's web site: www.ricoguitarnails.com. He calls it the Emergency Nail Kit. I don't know Rico, but I believe my teacher got the idea from him. Hope this helps. Best regards, Bill Eisele Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:13:56 +0100 To: chriswi...@yahoo.com; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: franz.mechs...@northumbria.ac.uk Subject: [LUTE] Lute and guitar Dear Christopher, (and dear lute wisdom), I just see that you are playing and teaching the guitar as well as the lute. How do you manage to play both instruments regarding nails (and maybe other problems)? I am juggling between having the nails long when focusing on the guitar, thereby neglecting the lute, having intermediate nails while playing both instruments and short nails while playing the lute and vihuela, thereby now and then playing my guitar with finger tips. I would be interested how other people manage the problem(s) of loving instruments of both types. Best Franz -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp --
[LUTE] Re: extreme theorbo case
John, I have one for a Ren. lute in the case and really like it. Two trips from New Mexico to Vancouver and back as checked baggage with no problems. I would recommend the optional reflective white color instead of the standard black. Best regards, Bill Eisele Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 00:23:07 + To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: johnle...@hotmail.com Subject: [LUTE] extreme theorbo case Dear all, Has anybody got one of these? http://www.casextreme.com/prod_details.php?pid' If so, is it any good? Certainly cheaper than the next few options I can think of, like my IKA case which has begun to show some significant wear including some rather worrying stress fractures (just dropped off at the surfboard shop for repair), and my Kingham cases, which have been reduced to little theorbo-case molecules. All best, John -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Protecting top of instrument
Hello Ned, If you've already gone through the original finish, the best thing to use is Renaissance Wax Polish. I believe it was Kenneth Be, a museum conservator and lutenist, who recommended using this polish for just the sort of thing you're concerned about. I'm also aware of one luthier who applies it to his lutes before turning them over to his clients. You can't really tell that it's there, but it leaves a very thin layer of protection. It obviously won't prevent scratches and gouges to the wood, but will prevent the bare wood from discoloring. You can find some information about it at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance_Wax. It's available for sale through amazon.com and other on line retailers. As far as preventing scratches and gouges to the wood, the Kling-ons that others have recommended are probably the best, but I've tried them and they were always falling off the soundboard. Best regards, Bill Eisele Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:01:41 -0500 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: nedma...@aol.com Subject: [LUTE] Protecting top of instrument Aside from the precaution of keeping one's fingernails trimmed to minimize wear on a lute top, is there anything to do if a top already has substantial wear, to protect against further wear? I'm thinking in terms of something like a clear varnish over the worn area. Has anyone found something that works without negatively effecting the sound? And also doesn't look bad? Ned -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Flying with a lute - CaseXtreme Flight Case
Hello All, I believe I'm the one that Dan refers to below about the link to the guitar case being thrown off a building and the guitar (actually an acoustic, non-solid body guitar) surviving intact. Below is my original post from last August. The name of the company is CaseXtreme and the video may be seen at http://www.casextreme.com/newest_video.html. I believe prices have risen since my original post, but the company now makes a special edition case in heat reflective white which would be better than the standard black. Again, I hope this information is helpful. Bill Eisele Just before the LSA workshop at the Vancouver Early Music Festival I had a custom flight case made for my Kingham lute case by CaseXtreme in San Diego: [1]http://www.casextreme.com/. It's made with some kind of corrugated plastic and uses foam pads as cushioning on the sides and the bottom of the flight case. The Kingham case is held in place against the pads with a strap and there's about an inch of space between the lid of the flight case and the Kingham case. The case has two carrying handles and comes with detachable wheels. All sides of the case are extremely rigid once the lid is closed and you can stand on the top without damaging the case. The cost of the flight case with shipping was about $320. I checked the flight case through from Albuquerque to Vancouver (connection in Denver) and return (connection in San Francisco) with no problems - four separate flights. The lute inside was unscathed. I'm not sure if it will fit through an x-ray machine, but if it does fit, a gate check would probably be the best way to go. I just didn't want to haul it all over the airports before boarding. The flight case weighs about 12 pounds and it is oversized (37 L x 20 W x 15 D), but no one at check in required that I pay the oversize baggage fee. It doesn't look as big as it actually is because of the trapezoidal shape rather than a rectangular shape. I have posted some photos of the flight case at Flickr: [2]http://www.flickr.com/photos/41330...@n03/. The owner of CaseXtreme, Bruce Lamb, is very helpful and he can be reached at 800-495-8444. FYI, I have no business interest in CaseXtreme. Hope this helps, Bill Eisele Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:24:45 -0800 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: dwinh...@comcast.net Subject: [LUTE] Re: Flying with a lute Thank you, Nancy. Excellent, relevant recent information. Important that it is post Christmas. Seems to be a don't ask, don't tell Least said, soonest mended etc. type of modus operandi. That's how it worked with my old, small vihuela in about 2005 going to the Amherst event from S.F. Bay area also. For a Cleveland adventure I was afraid to risk being turned away at the gate with no alternatives (as Ned is afraid of) with the 13 course Baroque lute so I reinforced the old case with 4 more sturdy latches- but no extra padding measures except for lots of socks and underwear inside the case around the neck and pegbox, and some music pages between the strings and the soundboard. Totally detuned, of course. It came and went both directions unscathed, I think by sheer good luck. United hadn't yet learned how to break guitars, I guess. Hasn't someone this list given a link to a promo for a new guitar case that was thrown off a building, and the (but solid body) guitar survived intact? Still an accomplishment, I would like to see that ad again- couldn't google it up. Dan -- References 1. http://www.casextreme.com/ 2. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41330...@n03/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: String equivalents
Leonard, I'm not sure if this chart (http://www.ianwatchorn.com.au/String%20Conversion%20Table.pdf) is what you are looking for, but please check it out. It does cover a number of string makers. Best regards, Bill Eisele Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 21:41:25 -0400 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: arc...@verizon.net Subject: [LUTE] String equivalents Does anyone know of a chart that compares various manufacturers strings with plain gut (equivalent diameters)? I found a chart with some of this information, but it is not complete--there are some metal wound strings I own that are not listed at all for their maker. The on-line calculators are great for finding a string in a solid material like gut or nylon, but don't work for mixed-media strings. I'm not finding much on line. Thanks, Leonard Williams To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Traveling with lute
Hello Ned, Just before the LSA workshop at the Vancouver Early Music Festival I had a custom flight case made for my Kingham lute case by CaseXtreme in San Diego: http://www.casextreme.com/. It's made with some kind of corrugated plastic and uses foam pads as cushioning on the sides and the bottom of the flight case. The Kingham case is held in place against the pads with a strap and there's about an inch of space between the lid of the flight case and the Kingham case. The case has two carrying handles and comes with detachable wheels. All sides of the case are extremely rigid once the lid is closed and you can stand on the top without damaging the case. The cost of the flight case with shipping was about $320. I checked the flight case through from Albuquerque to Vancouver (connection in Denver) and return (connection in San Francisco) with no problems - four separate flights. The lute inside was unscathed. I'm not sure if it will fit through an x-ray machine, but if it does fit, a gate check would probably be the best way to go. I just didn't want to haul it all over the airports before boarding. The flight case weighs about 12 pounds and it is oversized (37 L x 20 W x 15 D), but no one at check in required that I pay the oversize baggage fee. It doesn't look as big as it actually is because of the trapezoidal shape rather than a rectangular shape. I have posted some photos of the flight case at Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41330...@n03/. The owner of CaseXtreme, Bruce Lamb, is very helpful and he can be reached at 800-495-8444. FYI, I have no business interest in CaseXtreme. Hope this helps, Bill Eisele Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:27:16 -0400 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: nedma...@aol.com Subject: [LUTE] Traveling with lute It's been several years since I've flown, and I'm wondering if there's a safe way to travel with a lute by air. Do any airlines still sell a seat for a musical instrument? Or is there a lute case available that's designed to withstand the abuse flight baggage may encounter? (Having an extra instrument and shipping it ahead is one idea that's occured to me, but someone willing to accept it is needed). Ned __ -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Savarez, Aquila Pyramid equivalencies
Richard, I believe this is the chart that you are looking for: http://www.ianwatchorn.com.au/String%20Conversion%20Table.pdf. I haven't used it so I can't vouch for its accuracy. Best regards, Bill Eisele Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:55:48 -0400 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: grobe...@sas.upenn.edu Subject: [LUTE] Savarez, Aquila Pyramid equivalencies Dear Lute-Netters, I hear that there's a chart that lines up the equivalent guages of Aquila, Savarez and Pyramid strings. Can anybody tell me where I can find this chart? Thanks! Richard Stone -- Instructor of Baroque Lute and Theorbo Peabody Conservatory 1 East Mt Vernon Place Baltimore MD 21202 [1]rston...@jhmi.edu [2]www.peabody.jhu.edu Artistic Co-Director Tempesta di Mare Philadelphia Baroque Orchestra Chamber Players 1034 Carpenter St Philadelphia PA 19147 215-755-8776 office fax 215-339-4067 home 215-868-5068 cell (when away from home) [3]i...@tempestadimare.org [4]www.tempestadimare.org References 1. mailto:rston...@jhmi.edu 2. http://www.peabody.jhu.edu/index.php?pageID=3044 3. mailto:i...@tempestadimare.org 4. http://www.tempestadimare.org/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
