[LUTE] Re: Strap slips off left shoulder.
I hitch my shirt backwards a few inches before lowering the strap onto my shoulder. This removes slack from the front of the shirt, and makes the final arrangement tighter and more satisfactory. Herbert Ward Yes, you are right, the clothes worn may also be considered as part of the strap system (as mentioned already by Martyn). A shiny material can look elegant, but may need to be avoided. Anthony - Message d'origine De : Herbert Ward wa...@physics.utexas.edu À : lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Envoyé le : Mar 15 mars 2011, 14h 25min 48s Objet : [LUTE] Re: Strap slips off left shoulder. Non-skip material between strap and shoulder works fine. Thanks. I hitch my shirt backwards a few inches before lowering the strap onto my shoulder. This removes slack from the front of the shirt, and makes the final arrangement tighter and more satisfactory. Material similar to rug/carpet backing include (a) non-skid shelf liner (at Walmart next to the shelf paper), and (b) non-skid drawer liner (at hardware supply outlet, to keep tools from sliding around in drawers). Alternative (b) may be available in black. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Strap slips off left shoulder.
Has anyone mentioned suede leather? I use a 12 x 18 inch piece of suede (animal origin, not synthetic) on my lap when I sit to play. It keeps the lute from slipping. Suede works well as a thin strip and doesn't slide. The advantage of suede is that it works with period garments as well as modern. Depending on where you live, suede can be purchased in hobby craft stores. -Original Message- From: Herbert Ward wa...@physics.utexas.edu To: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tue, Mar 15, 2011 9:26 am Subject: [LUTE] Re: Strap slips off left shoulder. on-skip material between strap and shoulder works fine. hanks. I hitch my shirt backwards a few inches before lowering he strap onto my shoulder. This removes slack from he front of the shirt, and makes the final arrangement ighter and more satisfactory. Material similar to rug/carpet backing include (a) non-skid shelf liner (at Walmart next to the shelf aper), and (b) non-skid drawer liner (at hardware supply outlet, to eep tools from sliding around in drawers). Alternative (b) may be available in black. To get on or off this list see list information at ttp://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Strap slips off left shoulder.
On my Baroque lute, I attach both ends to the lute bowl, although the button at the front end occasionally pops out! I am using a red suede leather terminated guitar strap, but as the strap tends to slip off the shoulder, I have sown rubber undercarpet material to the underside of the strap (the same material as many people use on their lap). I have turned the strap over to show this, here: [1]http://tinyurl.com/67qfg6x It may seem inelegant, but it doesn't show when playing. The only problem is that this material , with prolonged contact, can take the varnish off the lute (or mark it, as did happen to me), so another solution could be to use a thick velvet, similar to that used on this lute strap, by Jose Antonio Ahumada: [2]http://tinyurl.com/4g27r7d Indeed, I would use this strap type, as it grips on to the shoulder very well, except that you can't control the strap length quite so well. The grip is even better if you can have the strap tight, but that means holding your lute high on the chest. As Benjamin Narvey is doing here: [3]http://tinyurl.com/4wbw8d8 I used to do this, as I could then either stand or sit, but having had a frozen shoulder (adhesive capsulitisis), I now have to hold my lute as low as possible, so as to put minimum strain on the shoulder area. Regards Anthony __ De : Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com A : lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Envoye le : Jeu 10 mars 2011, 19h 20min 18s Objet : [LUTE] Re: Strap slips off left shoulder. Thanks, Roman, but this shouldn't be taken as an illustration of what I meant. I'm sorry that I don't have the means to throw it up on the web at the moment. Think stabilizing triangle from strap-end to pegbox. s On Mar 10, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Roman Turovsky [4]r.turov...@verizon.net wrote: I've made a little chart of how to tie the strap to prevent rolling/slipping: [5]http://torban.org/images/strap.jpg RT' - Original Message - From: Sean Smith [6]lutesm...@mac.com To: [7]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:43 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Strap slips off left shoulder. Tie the strap off at the butt end of lute in the usual way. Where the strap ends over the left shoulder attach a long loop of string (I like a dark shoelace). Let one end run over the peg at the nut end of the pegbox and the other at the tip (or wherever you like considering all those pegs to choose from). Make a few loops around varius pegs on the far side to finetune the length and to keep it from traveling. I've done this for years. I can stand or sit and expect zero lute rotation. It also keeps my shoulders 'square' and non slumpy which may help your slippage problem. Sean On Mar 9, 2011, at 7:20 PM, Herbert Ward [8]wa...@physics.utexas.edu wrote: In playing my 13-course, the strap is constantly on the verge of slipping backwards off my left shoulder. To a lesser extent this happens with my Renaissance lute also. Any suggeestions besides safety-pinning the strap to my shirt? To get on or off this list see list information at [9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://tinyurl.com/67qfg6x 2. http://tinyurl.com/4g27r7d 3. http://tinyurl.com/4wbw8d8 4. mailto:r.turov...@verizon.net 5. http://torban.org/images/strap.jpg 6. mailto:lutesm...@mac.com 7. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 8. mailto:wa...@physics.utexas.edu 9. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Strap slips off left shoulder.
On 11/03/11 12:36, Anthony Hind wrote: [1]http://tinyurl.com/67qfg6x So beautiful instrument!! Made by? Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Strap slips off left shoulder.
I suppose that you are not left handed, right? Where do you attach the strap to, somewhere in the region of the pegbox? Perhaps you could try to attach the strap to the body of the lute in the neck area. Some lutes have a strap attachment contraption there. As the baroque lute has a longer neck than most renaissancelutes the angle of the strap is different, which may explain why the strap slips easier on the baroque lute. Lex Op 10 mrt 2011, om 04:20 heeft Herbert Ward het volgende geschreven: In playing my 13-course, the strap is constantly on the verge of slipping backwards off my left shoulder. To a lesser extent this happens with my Renaissance lute also. Any suggeestions besides safety-pinning the strap to my shirt? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Strap slips off left shoulder.
On 03/10/2011 04:20 AM, Herbert Ward wrote: In playing my 13-course, the strap is constantly on the verge of slipping backwards off my left shoulder. To a lesser extent this happens with my Renaissance lute also. Any suggeestions besides safety-pinning the strap to my shirt? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html More visits to the gym and become broad shouldered ;-) I only use a strap for continuo instruments and even with theorbo only a strap below my right leg attached to the button: first inside between the legs going out below your right leg. Taco
[LUTE] Re: Strap slips off left shoulder.
Do you have a leather strap where the inside is rough and will grab your shirt? If not, try one. And no silk shirts. r -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Herbert Ward Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 10:20 PM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Strap slips off left shoulder. In playing my 13-course, the strap is constantly on the verge of slipping backwards off my left shoulder. To a lesser extent this happens with my Renaissance lute also. Any suggeestions besides safety-pinning the strap to my shirt? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Strap slips off left shoulder.
Tie the strap off at the butt end of lute in the usual way. Where the strap ends over the left shoulder attach a long loop of string (I like a dark shoelace). Let one end run over the peg at the nut end of the pegbox and the other at the tip (or wherever you like considering all those pegs to choose from). Make a few loops around varius pegs on the far side to finetune the length and to keep it from traveling. I've done this for years. I can stand or sit and expect zero lute rotation. It also keeps my shoulders 'square' and non slumpy which may help your slippage problem. Sean On Mar 9, 2011, at 7:20 PM, Herbert Ward wa...@physics.utexas.edu wrote: In playing my 13-course, the strap is constantly on the verge of slipping backwards off my left shoulder. To a lesser extent this happens with my Renaissance lute also. Any suggeestions besides safety-pinning the strap to my shirt? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Strap slips off left shoulder.
I've made a little chart of how to tie the strap to prevent rolling/slipping: http://torban.org/images/strap.jpg RT' - Original Message - From: Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:43 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Strap slips off left shoulder. Tie the strap off at the butt end of lute in the usual way. Where the strap ends over the left shoulder attach a long loop of string (I like a dark shoelace). Let one end run over the peg at the nut end of the pegbox and the other at the tip (or wherever you like considering all those pegs to choose from). Make a few loops around varius pegs on the far side to finetune the length and to keep it from traveling. I've done this for years. I can stand or sit and expect zero lute rotation. It also keeps my shoulders 'square' and non slumpy which may help your slippage problem. Sean On Mar 9, 2011, at 7:20 PM, Herbert Ward wa...@physics.utexas.edu wrote: In playing my 13-course, the strap is constantly on the verge of slipping backwards off my left shoulder. To a lesser extent this happens with my Renaissance lute also. Any suggeestions besides safety-pinning the strap to my shirt? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Strap slips off left shoulder.
Thanks, Roman, but this shouldn't be taken as an illustration of what I meant. I'm sorry that I don't have the means to throw it up on the web at the moment. Think stabilizing triangle from strap-end to pegbox. s On Mar 10, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net wrote: I've made a little chart of how to tie the strap to prevent rolling/ slipping: http://torban.org/images/strap.jpg RT' - Original Message - From: Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:43 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Strap slips off left shoulder. Tie the strap off at the butt end of lute in the usual way. Where the strap ends over the left shoulder attach a long loop of string (I like a dark shoelace). Let one end run over the peg at the nut end of the pegbox and the other at the tip (or wherever you like considering all those pegs to choose from). Make a few loops around varius pegs on the far side to finetune the length and to keep it from traveling. I've done this for years. I can stand or sit and expect zero lute rotation. It also keeps my shoulders 'square' and non slumpy which may help your slippage problem. Sean On Mar 9, 2011, at 7:20 PM, Herbert Ward wa...@physics.utexas.edu wrote: In playing my 13-course, the strap is constantly on the verge of slipping backwards off my left shoulder. To a lesser extent this happens with my Renaissance lute also. Any suggeestions besides safety-pinning the strap to my shirt? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Strap slips off left shoulder.
Try rotating the instrument. Pull back on the right arm, and with the left, arm, push it forward slightly. That will set it up mechanically to work. ed At 09:20 PM 3/9/2011, Herbert Ward wrote: In playing my 13-course, the strap is constantly on the verge of slipping backwards off my left shoulder. To a lesser extent this happens with my Renaissance lute also. Any suggeestions besides safety-pinning the strap to my shirt? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: e...@gamutstrings.com voice: (218) 728-1202 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1660298871ref=name http://www.myspace.com/edslute
