Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx.cfg - mime types - viewer for text terminal audio player mpg123

2024-03-31 Thread Stef Caunter
sounds like ubuntu can't find your player in $PATH so it falls back to vlc

have you tried a full path to the player in your lynx.cfg on ubuntu?


On Sun, Mar 31, 2024, 14:24 Klaus-Peter Wegge  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> indeed, an entry in $HOME/.mailcap helps:
> audio/mpeg; mpg123 -v %s
>
> But this definition is not restricted to lynx only.
>
> At least the text in .lynx.cfg is not correct:
> # The suffix definitions listed here in the default lynx.cfg file are
> # among those established via src/HTInit.c.  You can change any of the
> # defaults by editing that file, or via the global or personal mime.types
> # files at run time.  They will be overridden if you assign them here.
> #
> SUFFIX:.mp3:audio/mpeg
> VIEWER:audio/mpeg:mpg123 -v %s
>
> ---
>
> The definition in .lynx.cfg seems to be ignored. It doesn't overwrite
> others as described in the comment.
> May be a hint to $HOME/.mailcap can be also added in .lynx.cfg.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Klaus
>
>
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2024, Rudy Vener wrote:
>
> > Check your $HOME/.mailcap file.
> >
> > Rudy
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 05:33:48PM +0200, Klaus-Peter Wegge wrote:
> >> Dear lynx experts,
> >>
> >> I want to play mp3 files with the external text terminal player mpg123.
> >> This does no longer wirk with my change from Debian to Ubuntu.
> >>
> >> I'm using:
> >> lynx 2.9.0dev.10 - Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS
> >>
> >> Extract from .lynx.cfg:
> >> # MIME types and viewers!
> >> #
> >> SUFFIX:.mp3:audio/mpeg
> >> VIEWER:audio/mpeg:mpg123 -v %s
> >> ---
> >>
> >> Problem: vlc is started instead of mpg123.
> >> It seems that the mime type definition in .lynx.cfg is ignored or
> >> overwritten. Adding :NON_XWINDOWS or :XWINDOWS at the end of the
> >> viewer definition has no effect.
> >> In best case I'd like to start mpg123 independed from the setting of the
> >> display environment variable.
> >>
> >> I found some discussion on this issue in the lynx-dev mailing list
> archive
> >> end 2018 but no solutiton.
> >>
> >> Any hint is very welcome
> >>
> >> Best, Klaus
> >
> > --
> > Rudy Vener
>
>


Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-23 Thread Stef Caunter
On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 11:28 AM Morten Bo Johansen
 wrote:
>
> I use Hotmail. It works fine from the command line with access
> to all folder in Linux (with S-nail/mail) or from Mutt (and
> surely also Pine). If you're interested, I can share some
> configuration details.
>
> Regards,
> Morten
>
>
>

could you please? it hasn't worked for me for most of this century...

/stef



Re: [Lynx-dev] ANN: lynx2.9.0dev.7

2021-07-27 Thread Stef Caunter
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 10:52 AM Nelson H. F. Beebe  wrote:
>
> Today, I successfully rebuilt and installed lynx2.9.0dev.7 with the
> --with-ssl option on 23 platforms; the only build failures were on old
> CentOS 5 systems that lack needed support libraries.
>
> I did not remember to use the --with-ssl option on my first round of
> automated builds, so I had to redo them with that option.
>
> Given that the Web world is rapidly moving to https:, rather than
> http:, connections by default, with major GUI browsers forcing that
> move, would it not make good sense for the next release of lynx to
> make --with-ssl the default, and allow --without-ssl as an option to
> suppress https support?

systems rely on trusted provider certificate bundles, and deciding to
use them (with lynx) should be a conscious one on the part of the user
(in my opinion)...

a server user installs a certificate, so a server system compiled with
ssl still won't work without that, and clients won't trust it without
that

a client user has to trust certificate providers somehow, so a client
system compiled with ssl by default, has just assumed it has a list of
trustworthy certificate providers, or possibly has no list of
providers, and just ignores providers and accepts all server
certificates...

lynx has never made this assumption for users in my recollection

when you compile --with-ssl your system is checked for certs in
default or specified locations to trust, which seems enough of a
default to me

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Re: [Lynx-dev] Alternative User-Agent header

2021-06-24 Thread Stef Caunter
I can browse anywhere using this alias for 'lynx'

alias lynx='/usr/local/bin/lynx -nopause -tna -useragent=IE . '

"IE" seems to be the most innocuous choice for the major news sites. I
have not tried "googlebot" ;)

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Re: [Lynx-dev] Re: using 2.8.6 dev.11 on OS/2

2007-06-20 Thread Stef Caunter

I'm going to top post this answer to try and straighten out this thread.
Seems that lynx -version output would really help, but iirc 2.8.5dev9 was the 
first version to check for certificate validity, so presumably OpenSSL is 
available.
You need both ssl lynx and you need to send back cookies plaintext. See 
README.cookies in the documentation, especially:


FORCE_SSL_COOKIES_SECURE is for ebay and the like, or they won't remember you;
(their login is secure but everything else isn't, like a lot of big sites).
If lynx attempts to transmit the ebay cookie securely, it's not taken.
This doesn't affect cookie acceptance but it's a functionality issue for users.

If you have different cookie settings on different systems ebay won't remember 
you on one but will on the other, regardless of lynx build version.


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I would be interested in a a binary package available for OS/2.
Whatever disclaimers would be necessary.
I most recently found Lynx useful (just now) for displaying
http://weilbacher.org/Mozilla/config.html
especially the  IFRAME: components
My first web page composed for Community College of Philadelphia
looked, or at least worked better in Lynx because of the
display and function of the link attribute.
For some reason Lynx 2.8.5dev.16 (01 Jun 2003)
is keeping me out of ebay (My ebay)
unlike Lynx 2.8.5dev.9 (06 Oct 2002)

I am currently using 2.8.6 dev.11 on OS/2 and it has no problem with
the site in question. I compiled it for my own use, and have not
tried dev.12 or 13. Dev versions 14 and 15 have the 'ctermid' problem
mentioned here several weeks ago, so don't compile on OS/2.  I can
make a binary package available to anyone who wants it if you contact
me off list.



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Re: [Lynx-dev] file size limit for download

2007-06-16 Thread Stef Caunter

On Sat, 16 Jun 2007, Thomas Dickey wrote:

...the large-file support in lynx should allow you to _download_ that (or 
larger) DVD.  I haven't studied to see how much work it would be to support 
the reporting aspect.


The file downloading works perfectly. The transfer from /tmp/lynx* to the 
ultimate location drove me to hard link something to work around the copy 
overhead on a system with a different /home filesystem, but that's tolerable, 
and I suppose configurable with a tmp dir setting.


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[Lynx-dev] file size limit for download

2007-06-15 Thread Stef Caunter

I have a feeling this came up before, but ...

Downloading a 3.2GB DVD iso I see

Read 1558843 of 2097151 KiB of data, 2767 KiB/sec.

Am I seeing a system limit (FreeBSD) on what it thinks can be downloaded as a 
file, or do I have to tell lynx something to report the actual size?


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Re: [Lynx-dev] should lynx allow display of images without suffix?

2007-06-11 Thread Stef Caunter

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, PBM . wrote:


I would like to, but i think that lynx do not care if link is between
img tags. The same error is in links(links -g) and w3m(with images)
they do not display image.
Currently in lynx, it is implemented through mime types, and mime
types are often broken from servers via head request.



Broken servers (apache, etc.) exist, but changing a client isn't the right 
idea.


System mailcap, DOWNLOADER and PRINTER are the best ways to deal with dumb 
servers.


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So there need be a way where links inside img / would be downloaded
and viewed with XLOAD_IMAGE without look at mime types but that have
various implications. What is standard?


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Re: [Lynx-dev] goto user specific url or file - improvement

2007-05-20 Thread Stef Caunter
sorry to dump cold water on this, but the lynx browser is not a shell and 
doesn't need shell features.


Stef

On Fri, 18 May 2007, Walter Ian Kaye wrote:


it will be more usefull for me if it is done in following way:
for example, user insert via 'g' command following sites.
www.google.com
www.gsomeothersite.com
www.othersite.com

now, after www.g and using up/down keys only first two entries will be
available.


Oh, I love that feature of tcsh... although I have no idea how it got enabled 
(anyone know what shell setting to look for? I wanna add it to another 
system).



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Re: [Lynx-dev] 403 forbidden in Lynx but not other browsers?

2007-05-11 Thread Stef Caunter

On Thu, 10 May 2007, Walter Ian Kaye wrote:


Why can't Lynx get to the site? Here's a trace log excerpt:

User-Agent: Lynx/2.8.5rel.4 libwww-FM/2.14 SSL-MM/1.4.1 OpenSSL/0.9.7d\r


This is okay with 2.8.6rel.1 - are you really using 2.8.5? This might explain 
things.


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[Lynx-dev] default lynx.cfg

2007-05-05 Thread Stef Caunter
The default lynx.cfg still self-refers to /usr/local/lib on line 2 and line 
14, not /usr/local/etc, but we are following sysconfdir setting from 
configure, so the default should self-refer to /usr/local/etc.


There are also two later references to /usr/local/lib/mosaic for the mailcap 
and mime.types GLOBAL_MAILCAP and GLOBAL_EXTENSION_MAP placement; we don't 
create that subdirectory relative to sysconfdir (I assume we do create 
sysconfdir if it does not exist), so does it make more sense to consolidate and 
show these commented example lines, which point to other (possible) system 
config files, with the /usr/local/etc directory?


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Re: [Lynx-dev] [Sorry; off topic] anyone have tor/privoxy working with Lynx?

2007-04-07 Thread Stef Caunter

Is there an /etc/hosts setting? Is lynx pointing at 127.0.0.1:8118 for proxy?

AFAIK proxy use decouples system resolver from browser activity, but this 
method is relying on a virtual circuit for resolving and it seems like you 
require other participants.


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On Sat, 7 Apr 2007, Henry Nelson wrote:


Have been trying to set up tor/privoxy, but not having a lot of luck.
Any site I try to goto seems to resolve to 127.0.0.1.  Hmmm ... haven't
gotten the DNS setup right?

  Your request for
  [2]http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=8atid=28 could not
  be fulfilled, because the connection to sourceforge.net (127.0.0.1)
  could not be established.




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Re: [Lynx-dev] seporating main text from whole page

2007-03-29 Thread Stef Caunter

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Thorsten Glaser wrote:


Tzachi Zaccai dixit:


for my final project i need to write a program that enters several
news-websites and copies only the text from the relevant reports.


How about a shell script parsing lynx' output appropriately?

Parse lynx output by setting a flag when you see the foo tag and unsetting it 
when you see /foo in whatever language you like.
But I would be amazed if there isn't a perfectly functional perl module for 
this.


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Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx-2.8.6 patches from pkgsrc

2007-03-13 Thread Stef Caunter

On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Thomas Klausner wrote:


I just upgraded the package in NetBSD pkgsrc to 2.8.6rel4.


I had noticed that at some point the package went out and got gnu make on 
NetBSD, (around 2.0.2). If it still does this it isn't necessary.


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Re: [Lynx-dev] Re: lynx2.8.7dev.2 distfile size/checksum mismatch

2007-02-07 Thread Stef Caunter
had this too; went and put in XCode, etc., etc., got it compiled, then 
the lynxlet terminal app


http://habilis.net/lynxlet/

was posted. Pretty much a stock build, but it takes 2 minutes to make it work. 
I don't think you can call 'lynx' from a shell, but otherwise it works as you 
would expect; Options is there, just no cfg or command line args AFAIK.


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On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Walter Ian Kaye wrote:

Man, I miss Lynx. It's a vital part of how I use my Mac. I feel so 
unproductive without it.



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Re: [Lynx-dev] mac version

2007-02-04 Thread Stef Caunter

chown -R foo bar  chgrp -R foo bar

On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, Walter Ian Kaye wrote:


I can't seem to recursively change group, only owner. :/




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Re: [Lynx-dev] reset script

2007-01-26 Thread Stef Caunter
public_html is not exposed by the web server, it defines externally visible web 
space on the internal file system; this is why the URL does not work.


While lynx does provide a much nicer scriptable interface for this kind of 
thing, it isn't impossible to script with IE:


create a file called 'reset.vbs'

Dim shell
Set shell = CreateObject(WScript.Shell)
shell.Run C:\Program Files\Internet 
Explorer\IExplore.exehttp://www.peterlue.com/reset.php?reset=peter;


and schedule it. Kind of off topic, but since you are probably not on a unix 
system, use task scheduler.


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On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Peter Lue wrote:

I don't understand the question.  A friend of mine was able to do a manual 
reset but I don't have lynx installed on my computer so I can't do them.  I 
can't do them from internet explorer.  What do you suggest I do?  This is my 
first web site and I have never run a cron job before.



- Original Message - From: Stef Caunter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Peter Lue [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lynx-dev@nongnu.org
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] reset script


cron changes $PATH (usually), best to always use full path to all commands 
for anything running in cron. Does it run in your shell?


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On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Peter Lue wrote:

I am using the attached reset script to run cron jobs but it is not 
working because my friend says that I have no access to lynx.  Why don't 
the following commands work?











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Re: [Lynx-dev] reset script

2007-01-26 Thread Stef Caunter

enclose the URL in single quotes

lynx -dump 'http://www.peterlue.com/reset.php?reset=peter'

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On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Peter Lue wrote:


This is the command I am using and this is the error I am getting now.

lynx -dump http://www.peterlue.com/reset.php?reset=peter  /dev/null

/bin/sh: http://www.peterlue.com/reset.php?reset=peter: No such file or 
directory





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Re: [Lynx-dev] forbid local file browsing?

2007-01-07 Thread Stef Caunter
Was going to say, even if the alias worked there would be too many ways to get 
around it, so a recompile (check ./configure --help|more) is the way to go.


It's not particularly on topic, but chrooting users is the preferred way to 
restrict access to the file system.


I believe the options to build lynx without file 
system browsing or jumping out to a shell were for public access systems where 
lynx was a raison d'etre; others will have personal recollections.


Does your system just provide lynx, or is it a regular shell access box?

The /etc/passwd file is a userlist that has to be readable for anything to work 
properly; your users are going to see it from the shell without other measures, 
but it probably doesn't matter.


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I think you'd have to build lynx without dired support.
The restriction seems to only prevent them from using the file menu.



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Re: [Lynx-dev] Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host.

2006-12-05 Thread Stef Caunter

underscores, and it seems to be the way the various OSes do lookups.

Not noise, lynx does lookups differently than I expected, so I'm 
learning something here. If there is a dns record (there is), then the OS isn't 
handling it properly. I can't see where lynx asks the OS though.


I can't find any treatment that calls an underscore invalid in 
LYGetHostByName. lynx does not use gethostbyname(), and it is using w3c HTTPC.c 
code. Nevertheless, something makes it not find the A record.


DNS does allow underscores in certain cases, to prepend TXT and SRV records, 
such as Domain Key signing key distribution TXT records.
Microsoft Active Directory DNS domains allows them. Apparently, you can use 
them in hostnames and have it work. I don't know if that is ok with the rfcs 
(wonder if it is a matter of contention... :)


dig on NetBSD returns an A record, dig uses resolv.h, which has a sanity 
check for names, but it finds underscores sane apparently.


squid on FreeBSD won't check this url either, so that's wget, lynx and 
squid on BSD. NetBSD ftp and telnet client won't check it. linux ftp and 
telnet will.


I know Henry uses NetBSD, and Philip uses linux (could this be a header issue?) 
- just checked on RHE and it looks it up ok. So it seems to be BSD.


Guess I could post over on NetBSD unless someone else volunteers...

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On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, Henry Nelson wrote:


I'm trying to connect to http://running_on_alcohol.tripod.com/id4.html;,
but all I get is Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host.


Sorry for the noise.  It's some kind of DNS problem, but I can't see
what's different from the Windows setup and the unix host.  Nslookup
of running_on_alcohol.tripod.com yields an IP of 209.202.226.100,
but trying to go to http://209.202.226.100/id4.html; ends up with a
Sorry, but the page or the file that you're looking for is not here.
error.

Wget from the same account also fails: Resolving running_on_alcohol.tripod.com... 
failed: Non-recoverable failure in name resolution.



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Re: [Lynx-dev] proceed without username/password?

2006-12-01 Thread Stef Caunter
We had a thread about this a few months ago; these devices all use javascript 
which is not supported in lynx. In certain cases (like power bars) the device 
will return usable html after login (you can package up a POST with 
the blank username/pass combination) but most of the home routers like Linksys 
are all javascript controlled.


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On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Alan Ezust wrote:


I'm using Lynx Version 2.8.5rel.1 (04 Feb 2004) libwww-FM 2.14, SSL-MM
1.4.1, GNUTLS 1.4.4 Built on linux-gnu Sep 13 2006 23:25:27.

I wanted to use it to connect to my linksys router. It has a password,
but no username. I'm unable to use lynx because as soon as I hit
return for the username, it asks me proceed without username/pw
[y/n]. In my view, it should only ask this after I've had a chance to
enter a password, because as it stands, no matter what answer I give,
I am unable to connect to my router.


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Re: [Lynx-dev] how to write mailcap entry for mutt AND lynx

2006-11-29 Thread Stef Caunter
I have used either 'P' or 'D' to bring up the Printer or Downloader menu and 
then added shell post-processing for this with the antiword program.


No example, an extra couple of keystrokes and doesn't directly address the 
request...


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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Henry Nelson wrote:



application/pdf; pdftotext -layout %s -; copiousoutput

So, per the Subject, how do you write a mailcap entry that will work
for both mutt and lynx?  Many thanks.



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[Lynx-dev] washington post mobile redirect

2006-11-16 Thread Stef Caunter
The venerable http://washingtonpost.com is sending its mobile version of 
its front page to ssl enabled lynx with a 301 Moved Permanently.


It appears the server redirect to http://mobile.washingtonpost.com triggers 
consistently if lynx is built with ssl afaict, but the regular page is served 
to non-ssl built lynx. I don't know for sure if this is the only variable, but 
it seems so:


2.8.5dev.8 and dev.15 no ssl, no 301, regular page
2.8.6dev.17 and 18 ssl, mobile page
2.8.6rel.1 ssl, mobile page
2.8.7dev.1 no ssl, no 301, regular page
2.8.7dev.4 ssl, mobile page

Anyone else seeing this?

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Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx and References header for USENET messages

2006-10-05 Thread Stef Caunter

not useful, but historically interesting as an 8 year old assessment.

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On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Stegozor wrote:

Also, this good net keeping approval evaluation of Lynx as a news client may 
be useful: http://www.gnksa.org/Evaluations/lynx-2.8r2.txt



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Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx and the Mac

2006-09-20 Thread Stef Caunter

Unless you need extra functionality, you will get everything you need from

http://habilis.net/lynxlet/

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On Wed, 20 Sep 2006, Adam Ophir Shapira wrote:


Though my attempt to install Lynx 2.8.5 on a mac was *not*
successful --- I *did* successfully install Lynx 2.8.4.

I am using a PowerMac Duo running Mac OS X 10.4.7 --- if



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Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx2.8.6dev.19

2006-08-31 Thread Stef Caunter
I get '' also (FreeBSD 5.3), reminds of navigation arrows, but I have 
seen it before, just not on a plain --with-ssl compile.


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On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Atsuhito Kohda wrote:


I found that this version of lynx displaied white rectangle
on top left corner after I followed a link one time (i.e. except
starting page).

On some terminal (e.g. uxterm) I saw  (or ) in the
white rectangle.

My environment is Debian unstable.  Are there no one who encountered
the same problem?




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Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx.cfg location policy, libdir vs. sysconfdir

2006-08-24 Thread Stef Caunter
It is already definable from both configure and userdefs.h so location 
is going to change on that basis anyway. Users can specify 'lynx -cfg foo', and 
there are options and aliases to command-line parameters. I think you make the 
least number of people unhappy by not changing anything and leaving it up to 
the distro.


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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Thorsten Glaser wrote:


Rado S dixit:


Moin moin,

is there any reason that I couldn't think of on my own why
lynx.cfg is placed in libdir rather than sysconfdir?


Also, libdir is used for the location of the lynx help
files, which don't belong to (e.g.) $LOCALBASE/lib but
to $LOCALBASE/share (see the MirPort at
http://www.mirbsd.org/cvs.cgi/ports/www/lynx/Makefile?rev=HEAD
especially the docdir= and helpdir= parts).


If not, can it move there, please?


I second that, as discussed in IRC (#lynx Freenode).

bye,
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Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-29 Thread Stef Caunter
You think it's debatable whether being unable to use to Yahoo or SourceForge 
or do any e-commerce is crippling? Wow.


Hardly relevant since you can't ship lynx with ssl so the experience is 
consistent and obvious everywhere. A binary without ssl is what it is; add it 
in using source and a compiler when you need it.


To add any ssl functionality to lynx requires a compile and always has in 
my experience.


I guess you're referring to the licensing discussion?


Not at all, it just doesn't come in the box; if there's no native complier 
(Mac/Win) you are looking at binaries initially. SSL is also one of the most 
discussed usage topics here, once it's been built.


Even without ssl you still get that 'real view' of the web, scriptable, 
customizable and fast.


But without any access to hundreds of important web sites. Not exactly a 
selling point. Unless you think that SSL is evil and any web site which uses 
it sucks, but I've never heard of anyone who believes that.


rofl. The Mac user is checking out lynx in terminal in under 30 seconds with 
lynxlet (probably while using Safari). The pertinent issue with OS X is that 
you don't get a native compiler to roll your own lynx to get SSL.



MAC: Hello I'm a Mac
PC: And I'm a PC

and neither of us has a compiler...



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Re: [Lynx-dev] Windows Lynx style sheet destroyed after using external

2006-07-29 Thread Stef Caunter
I've had success using PRINTER:foo:bar and DOWNLOADER:foo:bar (can't recall 
which, sorry).


Hit 'p' or 'd' on the link and choose your app from the Printing or 
Download Options menu.


Stef
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


When I connect to my cgi-bin script, all I get is a progress
odometer.  I stopped Lynx when it reached 25 Mb.  What am I
doing wrong?



But I have a handy script that starts less in a new X-window,
so I tried that as a viewer.  No luck.  Instead, the /tmp
filesystem filled up (600 Mb) and my viewer never launched.



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Re: [Lynx-dev] Windows Lynx style sheet destroyed after using external

2006-07-29 Thread Stef Caunter
Not sure if it is this simple, but if I hit 'd' with cursor on the link to the 
file I want, I get Download Options before pulling down the file. Perhaps 
default user mode ADVANCED is required? I don't have the box up I used to do 
this on; I recall using mailcap entries as well to make the called app work 
right.


Stef
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


But my Lynx, 2.8.6dev.17, at least as I have it configured,
doesn't present either the printer options or the downloader
options menu until Lynx displays the file or fully stages
it to /tmp; hardly useful for streaming, where the server
never closes the connection.

Is there a configuration option I'm unaware of, to select
the printer/downloader before transfer starts?  I can
start another Lynx, with the -source option, and pipe
that into my viewer, but that's pretty cumbersome.




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Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-28 Thread Stef Caunter
Lynxlet, while not ssl-capable, is an excellent and very quick OS X app which 
obviates the need to install XCode since it just unpacks and runs in Terminal.



Walter Ian Kaye dixit:


There are no links for Mac OS X either.


Oops. Does Mac OSX come shipped without lynx?


I believe there's a 2.8.5 via Fink.




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Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-28 Thread Stef Caunter
Debatable. Getting a binary up this quickly is quite convenient. To add any ssl 
functionality to lynx requires a compile and always has in my experience. Even 
without ssl you still get that 'real view' of the web, scriptable, customizable 
and fast.


On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Walter Ian Kaye wrote:

A non-SSL Lynx is a crippled Lynx. Can't even log in to Yahoo, let alone do 
any online shopping. Nice PoC, though.



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Re: GPL (was Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing)

2006-07-27 Thread Stef Caunter

OpenSSL works really well with lynx, restrictive license.
GnuTLS isn't as good with lynx.

There have been several discussions about OpenSSL and this over the years, 
which are all available in the archives; or I suppose it could get restated 
again for this go round.


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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Thorsten Glaser wrote:


That would, I guess, be UKansas and a few individuals.




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Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-25 Thread Stef Caunter
But lynx.isc.org is current and quite acceptable. There is plenty of evidence 
of active development and code maintenance in both the readable text and 
breakout subdirectory date stamps.


It's common for external links to degrade over time, but putting energy into 
maintaining clean code should be preferred over website maintenance, especially 
when the included and very detailed documentation is the best source of usage 
information.


The mailing list archives are the next best place to look when searching for 
specific issues.


Stefan Caunter
http://caunter.ca/contact.html


Before subscribing to the mailing-list, when I just visited the
website I thought that the project wasn't maintained at all since a
few years. Some tutorial links are broken, and executable versions for
Dos and Windows are not up to date. IMHO some little updates, not to
say an overhaul would make sense, especially for basic users like me.




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Re: [Lynx-dev] SSL errors and retrieval

2006-06-17 Thread Stef Caunter
are the SSL variables exported? the command line seems to be attempting to 
bypass all user input nags but


lynx -cfg foo.cfg

will allow him to run a customized cfg and turn off the SSL (and cookie) 
prompts.


Is there a trace that is useful?

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On Fri, 16 Jun 2006, Thorsten Glaser wrote:


A user wants to retrieve something from an HTTPS website, like this:

lynx -dump --accept_all_cookies -auth=foo:bar 
https://api.del.icio.us/v1/posts/get?

He says it works without the -dump, but doesn't work with it.
I told him to install the SSL cert bundle, but it didn't seem
to help (no idea why), and I cannot reproduce it because I
don't have that -auth= info.




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Re: [Lynx-dev] unable to access siteminder protected URL

2006-05-06 Thread Stef Caunter
a quick google for SMSESSION SiteMinder indicates that SiteMinder has an agent 
on webservers that sets a cookie with symmetric encryption; this type of 
product (single campus sign on solution) will be using ssl to send a 
symmetric encryption key embedded in the cookie string.


We don't have access to an SM test box, so you need to provide more details. 
Run a trace of the lynx session. SM is java on IBM Websphere AFAICT; it appears 
to all be server side and independent of user agent.


First things first. Is your lynx latest version and built --with-ssl?
Can you send lynx -version and the relevant portions of a trace?

Stef
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On Fri, 5 May 2006, neo wrote:


Hi Stef,

We are not sending SSL cookies, the issue is that it is not able to set the 
SMSESSION cookie.

Thanks



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Re: [Lynx-dev] unable to access siteminder protected URL

2006-05-04 Thread Stef Caunter
any chance you are sending ssl cookies? sending them back unencrypted may help. 
Ctrl-K will show the contents of the cookie jar, Ctrl-T will start a trace file 
(Lynx.trace) that will show where the http transaction throws the 403.


Stef
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I am facing an issue while trying to access URLs protected by siteminder. I get 
an error
HTTP 1.0 403  Forbidden



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Re: [Lynx-dev] Download Options page problem

2006-05-03 Thread Stef Caunter
this came up a while ago; it is not the default for Advanced user mode, it is 
for Novice user mode, configurable with the [O]ptions page (ensure you save 
changes to disk).


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On Wed, 3 May 2006, Juhana Sadeharju wrote:



Fix suggestion: the default should be the Save to disk.




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Re: [Lynx-dev] Default file name when saving HTML documents to disk

2006-04-20 Thread Stef Caunter
Suggested page name with [P]rint will be the domain name if '/' is the 
request, and filename.txt if there is a specific file; seems appropriate to 
name it .txt since it isn't a print of html.


You get .html as suggested extension if you are viewing document source with 
'\' (html).


With my patch to view .css files, lynx suggests .css as extension with [P]rint.

Stef
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I agree that the formed file name is legal. My question is why does Lynx
append *.txt extension for *.html files and does not do this for *.cgi
files? Does the user have control over it, or it is hidden in Lynx
internals?


The cgi script doesn't have a text/html format, so lynx leaves its name alone.



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Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynxlet - a Mac OS X launcher application for Lynx

2006-03-12 Thread Stef Caunter
really preferable to getting xcode set up to get lynx running; thank you for 
this. I think this is one of the fastest steps to a working lynx I've seen.


Stef
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006, Chuck Houpt wrote:

Lynxlet is a work in progress, and I'd be happy to hear of any comments or 
bugs.



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Re: [Lynx-dev] Configurability

2006-02-26 Thread Stef Caunter
Editing your own .lynxrc allows you to tune to your preferences using all 
lynx.cfg options.


If you go the [O]ptions form route it overwrites .lynxrc, which is 
the main reason it does not write to disk by default. This was discussed here 
last year. Read the autogenerated .lynxrc file LYOPTIONS generates.


The ssl warnings mean you need to install certificates correctly on your 
system; see http://lynx.isc.org/current/lynx-2-8-6/docs/README.sslcerts

and follow the steps.

lynx -tna is a command line option for TEXTFIELDS, lynx -nopause is probably 
what you want for the delays... lynx --help|less shows you everything. The 
cookie accepting requires file storage and persistence ...


In general the lynx browser will speed up very nicely for users who take the 
time to learn to make the required changes. Since not all users are ready or 
able or want to run lynx in super fast mode, only some vendors ship a tuned 
current version of lynx.


-Stef
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Jason Spiro wrote:


Hi,

A pet peeve of mine regarding Lynx is the fact that Using
http://...;, Location URL is not absolute, and Accepting all
cookies from... display for a full second each. It takes me 15 sec or
so from the time I click Log In at www.gmail.com until my inbox
appears, including the invalid-cookie-prompting and
SSL-certificate-prompting time.

Also, I am a big fan of the TEXTBOXES_NEED_ACTIVATION option as I use
Links and form fields are numbered navigation.

I can't edit the lynx.cfg file on all the machines I use, and I
dislike editing lynx.cfg anyway because the file is so big.

1. Is it possible you could make the message display time and
TEXTBOXES_NEED_ACTIVATION configurable through the Options screen?

2. Also, is it possible you could make Save options to disk the default?




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Re: [Lynx-dev] unable to run lynx command

2006-02-11 Thread Stef Caunter

it is either not installed (probable) or not in your user PATH (unlikely).

There is probably an rpm of lynx-2.8.5 somewhere which will be simplest.

Current version is at http://lynx.isc.org/ if you want to compile it yourself.

-Stef http://caunter.ca/contact.html

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


bash: lynx: command not found



No manual entry for lynx



and please tell me which package should i insall so that i can run lynx
command on my pc



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Re: [Lynx-dev] if Post_data parameter's values differ?

2006-02-05 Thread Stef Caunter

get stdin from a pipe or socket

./gen_params | lynx -post_data -
   ^
   ^
   ^
   stdin specified here to the shell

Stef
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user's parameter's value will change...So is there anyway to change the full 
command similar to this one below???(not using any text file)

lynx -accept_all_cookies -post_data http://www.mysite.com  
user=Burakpassword=123456semester=20051 ---



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Re: [Lynx-dev] form action not defined?

2006-01-31 Thread Stef Caunter

lynx exits with signal 11

2.8.5rel.1 and 2.8.6dev.11 - linux 2.4.x kernel
2.8.6dev.14 - FreeBSD-5.3-RELEASE

http://mail.dice.com/cgi-bin10/DM/y/mYs30KOvou0KXq0BCRo0F8[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
to unsubscribe from their list, but the


Please click on the Confirm Opt Out button to opt out of Dice


HEAD request onthis^^^  link does it. It is a relative URL 
calling a servlet (not that that's relevant) but it doesn't populate as a 
valid hyperlink (as Walter reported) which is strange. I'm guessing this is 
pretty bad html we are seeing.




I just tried that (going to that link, giving 'v' to all cookies), and
don't see a problem.  It just gives me this page (perhaps some more
information would help):




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Re: [Lynx-dev] form action not defined?

2006-01-31 Thread Stef Caunter

when I send HEAD request with ']' for that [L]ink lynx crashes dumping core.
(dev17 on NetBSD3.0 GENERIC, ncurses 5.5.20051224 all patches)

-stef http://caunter.ca/contact.html

On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Walter Ian Kaye wrote:

I went to 
http://mail.dice.com/cgi-bin10/DM/y/mYs30KOvou0KXq0BCRo0F8email=dice 
@natural-innovations.com to unsubscribe from their list, but the submit 
button didn't work -- Lynx said there was no form action defined. But when I 
viewed source, there was an action attribute on the form tag.




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Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx offers only D or C for a .css-file (file says C prog): how to DISPLAY? - patch submit

2006-01-21 Thread Stef Caunter

this entry in .mailcap works by calling a pager:

text/css; less %s; copiousoutput

But this is not ideal, and it would be a good feature to include css browsing.

Here is a patch which adds css to HTInit.c and seems to work when I recompile; 
lynx displays the css file as plain text.


using diff -rub

--- orig/lynx2-8-6/src/HTInit.c 2005-01-05 19:42:15.0 -0500
+++ lynx2-8-6/src/HTInit.c  2006-01-21 03:31:29.0 -0500
@@ -114,6 +114,7 @@
  */
 SET_INTERNL(application/html, text/x-c, HTMLToC, 0.5);
 SET_INTERNL(application/html, text/plain, HTMLToPlain, 0.5);
+SET_INTERNL(text/css, text/plain, HTMLToPlain, 0.5);
 SET_INTERNL(application/html, www/present, HTMLPresent, 2.0);
 SET_INTERNL(application/xhtml+xml, www/present, HTMLPresent, 2.0);
 SET_INTERNL(application/xml, www/present, HTMLPresent, 2.0);
@@ -143,6 +144,7 @@
 SET_INTERNL(text/x-sgml, www/present, HTMLPresent, 2.0);
 SET_INTERNL(text/sgml, www/source, HTPlainPresent, 1.0);
 SET_INTERNL(text/sgml, www/present, HTMLPresent, 1.0);
+SET_INTERNL(text/css, www/present, HTPlainPresent, 1.0);
 SET_INTERNL(text/plain, www/present, HTPlainPresent, 1.0);
 SET_INTERNL(text/plain, www/source, HTPlainPresent, 1.0);
 SET_INTERNL(text/html, www/source, HTPlainPresent, 1.0);
@@ -1287,6 +1289,7 @@
SET_SUFFIX1(.c, text/plain, 8bit);
SET_SUFFIX1(.cc,text/plain, 8bit);
SET_SUFFIX1(.c++,   text/plain, 8bit);
+   SET_SUFFIX1(.css,   text/plain, 8bit);
SET_SUFFIX1(.h, text/plain, 8bit);
SET_SUFFIX1(.pl,text/plain, 8bit);
SET_SUFFIX1(.text,  text/plain, 8bit);



here are some relevant parts of a trace which shows css accepted.

Lynx Trace Log (2.8.6dev.16)

parse_arg(arg_name=cbc.ca/includes/cbc.css, mask=4, count=2)
parse_arg startfile:cbc.ca/includes/cbc.css
HTFormat: Looking up presentation for text/plain to www/present
FindPresentation: found exact match: text/plain
HTFormat: Looking up presentation for text/html to www/present
FindPresentation: found exact match: text/html

HTTP/1.0 200 OK
HTFormat: Constructing stream stack for www/mime to www/present ((null))
HTFormat: Looking up presentation for www/mime to www/present
HTFormat: comparing audio/* and www/mime for half match
HTFormat: comparing image/* and www/mime for half match
HTFormat: comparing video/* and www/mime for half match
StreamStack: found weak wildcard match: www/present
FindPresentation: found exact match: www/mime
StreamStack: found exact match: www/mime
StreamStack: Returning MIMEParser
HTMIME:  Server: Apache/1.3.29 (Linux/SUSE) mod_gzip/1.3.26.1a mod_jk/1.2.6-dev
Last-Modified: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 18:52:20 GMT
ETag: 1a419a-18d3-3f5e2164
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Type: text/css
Content-Encoding: gzip
Content-Length: 979
Expires: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:14:27 GMT
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:04:27 GMT
Vary: Accept-Encoding

HTMIME: MIME Content-Type is 'text/css',
Treating as 'www/compressed'.  Converting to 'www/present'
HTFormat: Constructing stream stack for www/compressed to www/present (text/css)
HTFormat: Looking up presentation for www/compressed to www/present
HTFormat: comparing audio/* and www/compressed for half match
HTFormat: comparing image/* and www/compressed for half match
HTFormat: comparing video/* and www/compressed for half match
StreamStack: found weak wildcard match: www/present
FindPresentation: found exact match: www/compressed
StreamStack: found exact match: www/compressed
LYOpenTemp(,.txt.gz,wb)

HTLoadFile: Opening `/tmp/lynx00012313aa/L12313-371TMP.txt' gives 0x48216298
File mode is 0100600, uid=1000, gid=0. My uid=1000, 2 groups ( 100 0)
HTCompressFileType(/tmp/lynx00012313aa/L12313-371TMP.txt) returns 0:
HTFormat: Constructing stream stack for text/css to www/present (text/css)
HTFormat: Looking up presentation for text/css to www/present
HTFormat: comparing audio/* and text/css for half match
HTFormat: comparing image/* and text/css for half match
HTFormat: comparing video/* and text/css for half match
FindPresentation: found exact match: text/css
StreamStack: found exact match: text/css
UCSetTransParams: from iso-8859-1(0) to iso-8859-1(0)
GridText: start HText_new
UCSetTransParams: from iso-8859-1(0) to iso-8859-1(0)
GridText: Change to style Example
StreamStack: Returning PlainPresenter

HTAccess:  status=200
HTAccess: `http://www.cbc.ca/includes/cbc.css' has been accessed.

-Stef
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, David Combs wrote:


Try connecting to this site:


  Linkname: AUE: The alt.usage.english Home Page
   URL: http://alt-usage-english.org/index.shtml

   URL: http://alt-usage-english.org/aue.css==

(the css-file discovered via the source)

Right, it's not a true html-file, but it is plain-text (file
 thinks it's a c-program).

Downloading and 

Re: [Lynx-dev] feature request: create new directory

2006-01-10 Thread Stef Caunter

but

!

mkdir foo  exit

in a shell escape accomplishes this. The lynx browser has always been a file 
browser that can launch editors or .mailcap helper apps; it doesn't need 
file/directory creation since a shell already does this.


But I still want to be able to mail a link directly...

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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Philip Webb wrote:


In the 'Print -- Save to local file' menu,
if you try to save to a non-existent directory,
you are told 'Alert: Cannot write to file!'.

How easy would it be to offer the option eg
'Create new directory /home/user/foo/bar/',
which would call up the shell command for creating directories ?

It looks like a small item which has never received notice yet.

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Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and forms

2005-12-26 Thread Stef Caunter
The APC interface uses an onClick javascript event to submit changes to control 
the power outlets - most annoying if you would like to stay in a shell, but 
there isn't anything to do except ask them to put in a real html form submit 
button.


I am sure many of their (inadvertent) end users are unix admins in ISP 
colos who find they can't control the unit unless they go to a javascript 
browser.


Completely unnecessary, as the interface is dead simple otherwise; it toggles 
the device state with option values. Allowing a real form submit would enable 
scriptable control for admins.


__Stef
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005, Alan Jay wrote:


Hi,



I am trying to control an APC power switch remotely using lynx unfortunately
the forms that the switch uses a forum with cancel and apply for some reason
the apply button is in accessible is this a known inconsistency?



Regards

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Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx2.8.6dev.16

2005-12-18 Thread Stef Caunter
You weren't referring to the output of lynx -version in the changelog? The docs 
seem to contain the most current SSL information if a change is wanted.


Lynx Version 2.8.6dev.16 (18 Dec 2005)
libwww-FM 2.14, SSL-MM 1.4.1, OpenSSL 0.9.7g, ncurses 5.4.20040208
Built on linux-gnu Dec 18 2005 20:58:51

See http://www.moxienet.com/lynx/ for information about SSL for Lynx.
   

__Stef

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005, Thomas Dickey wrote:


* remove pointer to
http://www.moxienet.com/lynx/
 since it no longer has useful information about SSL for Lynx (Crouton).



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Re: [Lynx-dev] RE: FW: iDEFENSE Security Advisory [IDEF1089] Multiple Vendor Lynx Command Injection Vulnerability

2005-10-28 Thread Stef Caunter
Any of this related to this thread? I see some Oct 17 2005 reports with the 
same name (we didn't get anything on the list), but nothing since.


Stef
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From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Sep 25 10:53:30 2005
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:25:08 +0200
From: Ulf Harnhammar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lynx-dev@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] 3xcrash: NULL dereferencing and buffer overflows

On Sun, Sep 25, 2005 at 02:45:32AM +0200, Ulf Harnhammar wrote:
 1) NULL dereferencing crash with unexpected data from Gopher server
 
 I have attached a fake Gopher server, lynx-gopher-crash.pl, that

 illustrates this issue. Run it, connect to it with lynx (lynx
 gopher://fake.server), select the Search menu item, press s, search
 for something.. notice how lynx crashes.

It also crashes if you go directly to a URL like
gopher://fake.server/2a?b;, for example by selecting a link in an
HTML document.

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Re: [Lynx-dev] NO_TITLE blank line before bottom row

2005-09-10 Thread Stef Caunter

Just as an addendum, any link that would have been on the last row, that is
moved to the top (row 1), on the next page, is drawn inaccessibly, i.e. not as 
a link.


Try (in -notitle ADVANCED mode)

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/09/09/Katrina_Friday20050909.html

page down to end, page up once. The first line should be a link. Page up again, 
it would have displayed in the missing last line.


Hope that helps.

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Thomas Dickey wrote:


With dev13c NO_TITLE:TRUE set the row above the bottom status line (in
ADVANCED user mode) is always blank (regular 80 x 25 getty terminal).


thanks (that's the sort of thing I thought might break, though I did not
find a case of it).



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RE: [Lynx-dev] Lynx SSL help

2005-09-06 Thread Stef Caunter

This form is for file upload. I do not believe this can be automated with lynx.
You cannot POST using -post_data to a file upload form AFAIK. The server is 
expecting a filename, and then a file it can write out, which isn't implemented 
(yet).


The file could be sent in -post_data if -post_data could be amended to read in 
a file to send:  -post_file_with_data, maybe? RFC1867 shows that the post 
elements get stacked one after the other separated by Content-type: and 
content-disposition: headers, boundaries, the data, and CRLFs.


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On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Runu Ali wrote:


Hi

I tried what you said I cannot get it to work, this is what I have been
doing.

I have a file called b which contains the following

MerchantID=barPassword=fooFileType=CSVCCFile=FDGMETROIN
1898110805

So I did
Cat b | lynx -post_date
https://clearance.commsecure.com.au/cgi-bin/FileUploader -

I get the following :

CommSecure FileUpload Declined

  This upload was declined because: Problem header
  ['FDGMETROIN1898110805'] had wrong number of fields. parsing file

  Please contact our helpdesk on 02 9497 4400 for help if it is unclear
  what is going wrong.

  [1]Please try again?

References

  1. https://clearance.commsecure.com.au/cgi-bin/FileUploader


Can you help ?  If you connect to it and have a look at the form, is there
anything I have missed ??

Thanks

Runu



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Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2005 12:02 AM
To: Runu Ali
Subject: RE: [Lynx-dev] Lynx SSL help

try

cat foo.txt | lynx -post_data https://your.domain.tld/ -

where foo.txt contains one line with all the pairs to POST

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Runu Ali wrote:


I am trying to send contents of a file this is the syntax I am using

echo

'MerchantID=??Password=??FileType=CSVCCFile=FDGMETRO.IN.1898.110805'

| lynx -post_data https://??

It does not work, I need to be able to send the contents of the file



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[Lynx-dev] page count with -notitle

2005-08-30 Thread Stef Caunter

I find I am missing having a page count (page n of m) while in -notitle mode.

Can the page count be put into the single info line of advanced mode the way it 
is displayed in the title line?


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[Lynx-dev] NO_TITLE blank line before bottom row

2005-08-25 Thread Stef Caunter
With dev13c NO_TITLE:TRUE set the row above the bottom status line (in 
ADVANCED user mode) is always blank (regular 80 x 25 getty terminal).


I just went to fiddle with the user mode settings in 'O'ptions and find 
that this row doesn't seem to redraw either. If I select NOVICE mode and 
'A'ccept, I have


VI keys:[ON_]

in the row above the reporting line for the duration of the session.

However, in INTERMEDIATE mode, this does not occur.

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Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx on 10x8-Terminal - Disable non-content lines?

2005-08-24 Thread Stef Caunter
When I add that to LYUtils.c, LYCurses.c gives similar error in the 
start_curses function - undefined reference to LYReopenInput.


Stef

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Thomas Dickey wrote:


I probably overlooked adding a || defined(HAVE_TTYNAME) before
the LYConsoleInputFD() function in LYUtils.c

(when I built it, I had MISC_EXP defined).



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Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx on 10x8-Terminal - Disable non-content lines?

2005-08-24 Thread Stef Caunter

It's great, even on NetBSD ;)

The syslog feature can be most useful for college/shell account 
providers. I noticed it back in May but hadn't tried it.


File size, server reponse codes, (those are always available aren't they?) and 
disabling user tagging might be useful enhancements.


Stef
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On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Thomas Dickey wrote:


It might have relied upon the TTY_DEVICE ifdef (if the configure
script did not find ttyname - which is POSIX - but you're using NetBSD ;-)

ftp://invisible-island.net/temp/lynx2.8.6dev.13c.patch.gz




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Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx on 10x8-Terminal - Disable non-content lines?

2005-08-23 Thread Stef Caunter
dev.13b on NetBSD 3.99 (basically 2.02) and FreeBSD 5.3 during linking and 
creating executable:


LYUtils.o(.text+0x2027): In function `LYReopenInput':
: undefined reference to `LYConsoleInputFD'

Stef

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Thomas Dickey wrote:


ftp://invisible-island.net/temp/lynx2.8.6dev.13b.patch.gz




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Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx on 10x8-Terminal - Disable non-content lines?

2005-08-19 Thread Stef Caunter

In lynx.cfg:

DEFAULT_USER_MODE:ADVANCED will get rid of 2 of the 3 bottom lines.

NOMARGINS:TRUE isn't available yet in lynx.cfg - you have to specify
lynx -nomargins as a command line option AWAI (can this be added to lynx.cfg? - 
I asked a while ago but it probably fell through the cracks).


I'm not sure how to suppress the title line display.

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On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, Arne Kowallik wrote:


Hi,

is it possible to disable displaying non-content on screen?

E.g.:
- title line
- 3 bottom lines and
- empty left and right border

I want to use lynx on a terminal with 10 lines and 8 columns.

Thanks,

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Re: [Lynx-dev] Auth via CMD line issues.

2005-08-12 Thread Stef Caunter
Works with dev13. I know lynx does not use getopt, but - and -- are 
interchangeable; the -auth forgives ellipsis of the '=':

--auth=foo:bar
--auth foo:bar
-auth foo:bar
-auth=foo:bar
confounding those of us who try all combinations.

Stef

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005, Henry Nelson wrote:


Attempting to run: /usr/bin/lynx --dump -auth=user:pw http://  /dev/null

  ^^
Is it okay to have two hyphens?  (I've always used just one.)




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Re: [Lynx-dev] Startfile page not available

2005-08-12 Thread Stef Caunter

I'd probably get a local copy of a basic lynx helpfile to assist new users.

Just tried

lynx /dev/zero

which is pretty interesting. Read stopped at 2095000KiB and then started up 
again. Consumed all available cpu of course.


Stef
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On Fri, 12 Aug 2005, Thomas Dickey wrote:


I seem to recall someone setting the file to /dev/null,
which is usually easy to find.



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[Lynx-dev] isc.org whines about javascript

2005-06-21 Thread Stef Caunter
While going to get bind9 with lynx today, I was confronted with:

Your browser doesn't support javascript/frames so blah

type page at http://www.isc.org/ (!).

Which, while partially true, doesn't seem at all appropriate in context.

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Re: [Lynx-dev] the 'z' key

2005-06-13 Thread Stef Caunter
well you aren't going to stop lynx from waiting for the system resolver with
^G, but TG has his *own* system. If I'm not mistaken lynx just uses available
system calls to stay small and fast and avoid reinventing the wheel.

When I get stuck in lookup hell I either go to
another tty for a few seconds or give up with ^C (this is nice inside pine when
checking phishing type spam urls with lynx).

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On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:

 On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 the mental interface of
 Thorsten Glaser told:

  I wonder...
 
  why cannot lynx simply stop with EVERYTHING if I hit 'z' repeatedly?

 Doesn't meet CTRLG your needs?

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Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx2.8.6dev.12 -- CRASH on OSX 10.4.1

2005-06-03 Thread Stef Caunter
FWIW this displays perfectly on OSX 10.3.9 with dev12.

  Go to:
 
 http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/bkserv/
 
  do repeated searches for r5, and watch the screen misbehave.



I also do not get the odd line display from

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/2005-04/msg00035.html

on the Macintosh, whether using lynx dev.12 in Terminal, or using Terminal to
shell to an OpenBSD/dev.11i build (window size is 102x32 - the BSD is an 80x24
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Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx2.8.6dev.12 -- CRASH on OSX 10.4.1

2005-06-02 Thread Stef Caunter
quite a difference between lynx, firefox and safari on OSX 10.3.9

PID COMMAND  %CPU   TIME   #TH #PRTS #MREGS RPRVT  RSHRD  RSIZE  VSIZE
7708 lynx 0.0%  0:00.02   11221   492K  1.58M  1.62M  28.0M
7707 tcsh 0.0%  0:00.04   11320   356K   724K   876K  22.1M
7706 login0.0%  0:00.03   11337   144K   484K   520K  26.9M
7704 firefox-bi  21.7%  0:11.55  12   198   253  17.8M+ 25.4M  32.2M+  291M
7692 top 12.5%  0:10.98   12026   268K   492K   656K  27.1M
6681 Safari   0.0%  0:13.16   5   110   265  13.5M  20.2M  19.2M   119M

lynx runs beautifully on this iBook (nice to not have to wait for a gui).

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Re: [Lynx-dev] Re: non-pkgsrc emacs or clone

2005-05-25 Thread Stef Caunter
Apologies for the harsh mess over on netbsd-users... takes all kinds...

Being a fairly devoted NetBSD user/admin the issue needed airing (thanks for
stepping in). I piped up when emacs installs reported errors, thinking
(hoping?) that having reports from lynx and emacs might lend weight to the
argument. Well, at least it didn't provoke a totally defensive reaction from
everyone.

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[Lynx-dev] Re: non-pkgsrc emacs or clone (fwd)

2005-05-24 Thread Stef Caunter
This didn't hit lynx-dev, so I'm sending it there, with this comment to
netbsd-users:

I started this thread because *not only* the lynx browser but
emacs also won't build with the supplied stock make and this is *less good than
before*.

Follow the thread: it's not lynx, and not emacs, it's NetBSD 2.0 make that
is the problem.

IMHO it's rather less than impressive to have to go fetch gmake before
you can install programs/utilities that are frankly universal and that worked
up to 1.6.2 out of the box.

Stef

On Mon, 23 May 2005, Klaus Klein wrote:

  The makefile in that directory does not specify .h as a .SUFFIX. Adding 
  that,
  makes it work.

 So FWIW, POSIX has a set of default .SUFFIXES, and .h isn't one of
 them, whereas GNU make indeed does define it regardless of
 POSIXLY_CORRECT being set in the environment.

Which means the Lynx makefile is actually broken, and just happens to work
on some OS's by lucky chance of a nonstandard extension in the system-level
makefile fragments.

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[Lynx-dev] Re: non-pkgsrc emacs or clone

2005-05-23 Thread Stef Caunter
On Sun, 22 May 2005, Rick Kelly wrote:

 Same problem with lynx; it will not compile out of the box on 2.0.2 without
 gmake; it did on  1.6.2.
  ^^
the make that ships with 2.0.2 is broken.

 I got that built and installed with gmake.

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[Lynx-dev] Re: non-pkgsrc emacs or clone

2005-05-23 Thread Stef Caunter
On Mon, 23 May 2005, Martin Husemann wrote:

 On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 08:57:23AM -0400, Stef Caunter wrote:
  the make that ships with 2.0.2 is broken.

lynx compiled for years on NetBSD 1.5 and 1.6 on a default install; it has
never compiled successfully on a 2.0 default install: make is broken.

I point this out in the context of this thread because it appears that the
issue is not confined to just the (rather indispensible IMHO) lynx browser.


 What do you mean?

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[Lynx-dev] Re: non-pkgsrc emacs or clone

2005-05-23 Thread Stef Caunter
Please see lynx-dev snippet below from Jan 2005.

On Mon, 23 May 2005, Martin Husemann wrote:

 It is not clear from the context of this thread that this is exactly the
 same lynx, nor how it doesn't compile.

  make is broken.

 Maybe. But nothing supporting this hypothesis has been shown here.


Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:39:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Stef Caunter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Lynx Development lynx-dev@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] UCdomap.c NetBSD2.0

NetBSD ships a broken make program.  I have a copy of one of the
prereleases and it does the same thing.  I don't recall exactly, but
probably ran into it before, since I see I'd installed GNU make on
November 10th.  What I see breaking is the

make tables

in the src/chrtrans directory.  It doesn't do anything.

The copy that comes with NetBSD 1.6 does work; I've been using that for
various testing on a different machine.



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[Lynx-dev] Re: non-pkgsrc emacs or clone

2005-05-22 Thread Stef Caunter
Same problem with lynx; it will not compile out of the box on 2.0.2 without
gmake; it did on  1.6.2.

Stef

On Sun, 22 May 2005, Denis Lagno wrote:

 On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 04:27:36PM -0600, Rick Kelly scribed:
  Does anyone know of a version of emacs or and emacs clone that will compile
  out of the box on NetBSD _without_ pkgsrc?

 GNU emacs, -current from cvs repository.
 22.0.50.1 compiles and runs without problems.

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Re: [Lynx-dev] NetBSD 2.0 more than warnings

2005-05-05 Thread Stef Caunter
So they are using a broken make, are happy to run out and get gmake in their
packaging setup, but can't or won't bundle it in the shipped OS.

I have noticed consider installing foo messages in configure... is this
something to consider for NetBSD 2.0 since it's been a while and it doesn't
look promising.

I know the workaround has been published here, but the problem for this OS is
that you need lynx to google around for the answer if you are attempting to
build a working system; you can get make3.80 with ftp, but you can't find out
that you need it without lynx, or without a message to that effect.

On Thu, 5 May 2005, Thomas Dickey wrote:

  Checked NetBSD2.0.2 pkgsrc lynx (2.8.5rel2). It runs off and gets make3.80
  before doing the build, which succeeds.
 
  I'll try a send-pr on this and see if they might consider using 3.80 (I'm 
  sure
  there are reasons why they don't).

 I'm sure also (it's GPL).



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Re: [Lynx-dev] Re: README.options

2005-05-03 Thread Stef Caunter

.lynxrc is rather more extensible than this, and post facto documentation as
part of a (surprise!) file overwrite isn't optimal for the Options Screen.

On Mon, 2 May 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  20050501 19:42, Stef Caunter 
 # This file contains options saved from the Lynx Options Screen (normally
 # with the '' key).  There is normally no need to edit this file manually,
 # since the defaults here can be controlled from the Options Screen, and the
 # next time options are saved from the Options Screen this file will be
 # completely rewritten.  You have been warned...
 
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Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx under OSX 10.4 (Tiger) fails 'make' @ h_addr ; OK under 10.3.X

2005-05-02 Thread Stef Caunter

this is very application specific; lynx is the best there is for rock-solid
working source code that builds out of the box; the testing and reporting
network is deep and experienced.
Apple should send Tom Dickey a box right away (and ship OSX with lynx)...

 pet peeve
 Apple 'includes' all this %*%*^, crowing about how they're open source
 inclusive then leaves it to us to figure out how to configure/install ...
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Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx under OSX 10.4 (Tiger) fails 'make' @ h_addr ; OK under 10.3.X

2005-05-02 Thread Stef Caunter
commenting /etc/hosts works - lynx shows as from an ip6 address in logs - note
my box is running ip6 aware bind9 and has an ip6 dns entry - don't know how
that would be on 10.3 or 10.4 - netbsd is famously usable with ip6. Certainly
the system resolver routines have to ask for ip6 resolution first for client
programs; lynx and others need to be sent over that stack from the lookup, so
having an ip6 aware nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf is helpful.

 AND, i have to figure out how to configure my internal bind9 DNS server for
 IPv6 use!  well, at least its BUILT for the support ... i suppose i COULD just
 test on localhost, but ...

tunnelbroker.net provides sample configs

 also, for the tunnel broker option, *my* router (sveasoft mod'd linksys) needs
 to have ipv6 turned on ... i'm fairly certain it's there - somewhere.

before you bang your head against that wall:
tunneled addresses are only good for one host; they are leaf nodes only; won't
route or grow a network (you need a real *not* tunneled address for that, ask
me how I know) -; use your mac to get the 6 address, and make sure all
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Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx under OSX 10.4 (Tiger) fails 'make' @ h_addr ; OK under 10.3.X

2005-05-02 Thread Stef Caunter

I have a 10.3 box so I am following this with some interest.

 in the meantime,  i've setup a localhost apache2 server, and naively tried

 % lynx http://::1/server-status

 lynx launched, and i got a page reply of:

 You don't have permission to access /server-status on this
server.

That's a Location handled by that module; you'd get network error
before app error so yes.

 gotta figure out how to conifg apache2 for ip6 ...

apache2 wants a Listen directive for its interfaces; I am not sure if you need
to define ::1 as an address for listening, but configtest it and see if it
accepts it.


 but, it LOOKS like it responded to an ip6 query.

 is this actually verification that IPv6 works for lynx, or is the reply
 simply a fortuitous conincidence?

see if httpd logged the requesting address and user-agent as fact.


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Re: [Lynx-dev] README.options

2005-05-01 Thread Stef Caunter
It says in the generated .lynxrc:

# This file contains options saved from the Lynx Options Screen (normally
# with the '' key).  There is normally no need to edit this file manually,
# since the defaults here can be controlled from the Options Screen, and the
# next time options are saved from the Options Screen this file will be
# completely rewritten.  You have been warned...

'' does not do this AFAICT (it does in MBM menu).
Did this become different when the save checkbox was introduced (I am not sure
when either happened)? The text should either indicate that there is some point
to making edits to .lynxrc since it won't get overwritten by default, and the
implication that the overwrite occurs can be changed to reflect current
behaviour.

The text in .lynxrc could indicate this instead:

# Warning:
# Since you are reading this file you presumably are aware of its potential to
# configure the behaviour of the lynx browser, and are able to use a unix text
# editor.
# You may edit this file to control the startup behaviour of the lynx browser,
# but note well that if you choose to save settings to disk from [O]ptions
# you will overwrite this file completely and lose any edits you have made.
#
# However, [O]ptions settings will not be saved to disk unless you select
# Save options to disk: [_] before selecting Accept Changes.
# This will replace this file and lynx will remember your new settings
# and forget your old settings.
#

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Re: [Lynx-dev] README.options

2005-04-28 Thread Stef Caunter
The idea is to clarify for a new user.

The fact that lynx can puzzle by not remembering [O]ptions settings is
demystified by associating this with the disk write (or not) to .lynxrc.

LYNXOPTIONS only handles a subset of possible config settings for the user.

It will be helpful to point out that each of those few settings are overwritten
for each Accept with Save to Disk POST to LYNXOPTIONS - reminds me of chmod
0700 rather than chmod u+x  (change to follow) ...

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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, Bela Lubkin wrote:

 You might want to clarify one point about this.  Hitting Accept
 Changes when Save options to disk is enabled writes out _all_
 settings, not just the ones changes in the current [O]ptions dialog.
 That is, if you did:

   1. [O]ptions
   2. Change User mode to Advanced
   3. Accept Changes
   4. [O]ptions
   5. Change VI keys to Off
   6. Checkmark Save options to disk
   7. Accept Changes

 -- the change made in step 2 has now been written to disk.  This will be
 obvious to _current_ Lynx users, and may seem intuitively obvious to
 most readers on this list.  It is much less obvious to a new user.  A
 different reasonable assumption would be that Save options to disk
 only writes out changes made during the _current_ [O]ptions session.

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[Lynx-dev] textarea wrapping

2005-04-26 Thread Stef Caunter
Small problem with http://brickboard.com/RWD (a forum).

Select a post, select Reply to this message.

With 2.8.6.dev10 (and 2.8.5dev7) textarea displays correctly.

With 2.8.6.dev11i textarea wraps a space below.

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[Lynx-dev] README.options

2005-04-26 Thread Stef Caunter
Short howto on [O]ptions and MBM setup; comments/edits welcome.


README.options

Using the lynx browser [O]ptions configuration tool.

General Usage on a unix system:

Press O at any time in your lynx session to access this utility page.
This is one of several custom system URLs that cause lynx to self-configure.

Please note:
Ensure and confirm that your [O]ptions session is flushed to disk, by selecting:

Save options to disk: [_] before selecting Accept Changes.

This freshens your .lynxrc file, which is your default personal configuration
for the lynx browser.  Otherwise you will only affect settings for your
individual session; they aren't remembered next time you use lynx, (since you
actually did not tell lynx to remember them).

This disk write to .lynxrc is not default behaviour for [O]ptions
configurations. The lynx browser tends to tread lightly at first. Note that
you must first have permission on your system to create, write to and read
from a .lynxrc file in your home directory.

Using some of the menu items:

User mode controls the amount of on screen help at the bottom of the screen.
You get the familiar view of the link target you are on when you use ADVANCED
user mode, and this also gives you the most top to bottom screen area.
ADVANCED user mode also allows for sub bookmark functionality (see below).

The (for now) command line only option --nomargins provides the largest
readable left to right screen coverage.

Editor is for jumping to vi or whatever you prefer during local file edits
and for textarea editing with ^Xe if you are filling out a form while browsing.

Please see README.cookies for a brief cookie handling discussion.

Multi-bookmarks allows several files to be your bookmarks; it will introduce
a browse list of them if they are defined as below.

Once the Multi-bookmarks setup on Options is done and has been written out to
your .lynxrc (remember to Accept Changes and to Save Changes to disk),
in .lynxrc you will see a list of 25 possible other bookmark files
(26 letters minus A) - you need to then associate some of them with
(meaningful) filenames to get the Multi-bookmark menu.

Note that the files must be relative to your home directory.

The best way to create and manage them is by using the MultiBookmarkMenu (MBM)
configuration tool selectable from the [O]ptions menu.

The MBM allows you to describe the sub bookmark, and name a file relative
to your home directory that will contain the html for the saved links.
You populate one of the lettered sub bookmarks, describe it, and provide a
filename.  saves the edits, and ^G cancels edits.

The sub bookmarks will be accessible by pressing the associated key from a
menu when invoking the bookmark choice (lynx -book, or 'V' in a session), or
when saving new bookmarks. You can directly access your sub bookmarks by letter
key alone by defining sub_bookmarks=ADVANCED in .lynxrc or lynx.cfg, if you
have ADVANCED general user mode selected as well.
The Multi-bookmark submenu can still be seen in ADVANCED by pressing =, and
is always seen in STANDARD mode.

They are seen in your .lynxrc like so:

multi_bookmarkB=cars,Cars
multi_bookmarkC=news,News
multi_bookmarkD=sports,Sports

Filename precedes description in .lynxrc, whereas in the MBM configuration
utility, the description is the left column, and the filename is in the right
column displayed.


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Re: [Lynx-dev] How to use multi-bookmarks? (What am I doing wrong?)

2005-04-22 Thread Stef Caunter
(belated reply, mail woes)

Ensure and confirm that your [O]ptions session is flushed to disk, by
selecting to save to disk; this freshens your .lynxrc file. Otherwise you get
settings for your individual session that aren't remembered next time.

This disk write to .lynxrc should be default behaviour for [O]ptions
configurations IMHO, but it's not. There may be reasons that make this
unwanted as default; lynx tends to tread lightly at first.

The [O]ptions behaviour is probably what is missing from the doco. I'd be
happy to put something in an edit (what is the filename?), or submit something
on the [O]ptions URL in general.

Once the multibookmarks setup on Options is done and has been written out to
your .lynxrc, edit .lynxrc and you will see a list of 25 possible other
bookmark files (26 letters minus A) - you need to then associate some of them
with filenames to get the menus and other functionality.

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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, David Combs wrote:

 lynx   -cfg=~/lynx.cfg   -useragent=Lynx 2.8.4rel.1 -vikeys -cache=60 -book
 

 And, here's the = page:

   Lynx 2.8.5rel.1 (04 Feb 2004) ([1]latest release)

  File that you are currently viewing:

Linkname: Bookmark Page
 URL: file://localhost/net/u/1/d/dkcombs/lynx_bookmarks.html
 Charset: iso-8859-1 (assumed)
Content-Length: 591463 bytes
Owner(s): None
size: 11979 lines
mode: normal, bookmark file

 Link that you currently have selected

Linkname: Goodlight Message Board
 URL: http://www.goodlight.net/





 (1) I tried to set multi-bookmarks to standard, via the options
 menu, and then clicked on accept changes -- and tried
 rerunning lynx.  That option-menu still showed off.

 (2) So, I changed it in .lynxrc, to standard.  Then I ran
 lynx,


 (This being the bookmark-section of the Options-page
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Re: [Lynx-dev] passwords cookies

2005-04-22 Thread Stef Caunter
(more belated replies - Philip, I will try to send something for LHFB; I think
Options has changed over the years as well)

my relevant lynx.cfg settings:

FORCE_SSL_COOKIES_SECURE:FALSE
SET_COOKIES:TRUE
ACCEPT_ALL_COOKIES:TRUE
PERSISTENT_COOKIES:TRUE
COOKIE_FILE:/crypt/secret/lynx/.lynx_cookies
COOKIE_SAVE_FILE:/crypt/secret/lynx/.lynx_cookies
COOKIE_LOOSE_INVALID_DOMAINS:sports.espn.go.com,espn.go.com,.go.com,passport.net,login.passport.net,lc1.bay0.hotmail.passport.com,ld.cb.msn.com,loginnet.passport.com:443,

Do you have a save file, and is it flushed out to disk when you exit lynx?
Check with lynx -trace URL and see if the disk write happens down at the bottom.
I am not sure if you get cookies to really persist unless this happens.
The FORCE_SSL_COOKIES_SECURE isn't in play here - I use it for ebay, or it
won't remember me (their login is secure but everything else isn't, like a lot
of big sites). The COOKIE_LOOSE_INVALID_DOMAINS is for the botched cookies from
these sites. I read espn a lot, although their dynamic stuff is increasingly
client script triggered; I tried to work around the hotmail shut out of lynx a
few years ago but gave up...

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Re: [Lynx-dev] Removing the 3 character left right margin...

2005-04-06 Thread Stef Caunter

Domain missing from posted URL (removed 3 character domain from URL?...)

Stef

ftp://invisible-island.net/temp/lynx2.8.6dev.11i.patch.gz

On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, Thomas Dickey wrote:

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[Lynx-dev] NetBSD 2.0 more than warnings

2005-03-22 Thread Stef Caunter
Sorry to be taking rather than giving lately, but 2.0 isn't liking dev11 to the
point that it errors out, same with 2.8.5rel1.

Here is some of stderr (from about 200 lines) followed by some of config.log to 
do with character sets.

I know that NetBSD doesn't have a term.h from previous adventures with
antiword (probably not it). The check for alternate charsets by curses fails.

UCdomap.c:41:59: cp1250_uni.h: No such file or directory
UCdomap.c:56:59: cp869_uni.h: No such file or directory
UCdomap.c:57:59: def7_uni.h: No such file or directory
UCdomap.c:58:59: dmcs_uni.h: No such file or directory
UCdomap.c:59:59: hp_uni.h: No such file or directory
UCdomap.c:80:61: pt154_uni.h: No such file or directory
UCdomap.c: In function `con_set_default_unimap':
UCdomap.c:601: error: `dfont_unitable' undeclared (first use in this function)
UCdomap.c:601: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
UCdomap.c:601: error: for each function it appears in.)
UCdomap.c:603: error: `dfont_unicount' undeclared (first use in this function)
UCdomap.c:611: error: `dfont_replacedesc' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
UCdomap.c:611: error: `repl_map' undeclared (first use in this function)
UCdomap.c: In function `UCInit':
~UCdomap.c:2065: error: `UC_CHARSET_SETUP_koi8_u' undeclared (first use in this
function)
UCdomap.c:2066: error: `UC_CHARSET_SETUP_ptcp154' undeclared (first use in this 
function)

Here is some of config.log that might be relevant.

#include LYCurses.h
#include termio.h
int main() {
putchar(0x0a)
; return 0; }
configure:18630: checking for curses/term.h
configure:18640: gcc -E  conftest.c /dev/null 2conftest.out
configure:18636:25: curses/term.h: No such file or directory
configure: failed program was:
#line 18635 configure
#include confdefs.h
#include curses/term.h
configure:18630: checking for term.h
configure:18640: gcc -E  conftest.c /dev/null 2conftest.out
configure:18636:18: term.h: No such file or directory
configure: failed program was:
#line 18635 configure
#include confdefs.h
#include term.h
configure:18668: checking if curses supports alternate-character set
configure:18685: gcc -o conftest -O2   conftest.c -lcurses -lssl -lcrypto -lssl
15
configure: In function `main':
configure:18681: error: `acs_map' undeclared (first use in this function)
configure:18681: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
configure:18681: error: for each function it appears in.)
configure: failed program was:
#line 18676 configure
#include confdefs.h

#include curses.h

int main() {
chtype x = acs_map['l']; acs_map['m'] = 0
; return 0; }
configure:18685: gcc -o conftest -O2   conftest.c -lcurses -lssl -lcrypto -lssl
15
configure:18708: checking if curses supports fancy attributes
configure:18727: gcc -o conftest -O2   conftest.c -lcurses -lssl -lcrypto -lssl
15
configure:18795: checking if curses supports color attributes
configure:18816: gcc -o conftest -O2   conftest.c -lcurses -lssl -lcrypto -lssl
15
configure:18850: checking for termio.h
configure:18850: checking for termios.h
configure:18850: checking for unistd.h
configure:18936: checking whether termios.h needs _POSIX_SOURCE
configure:18945: gcc -c -O2  conftest.c 15
configure:18986: checking declaration of size-change
configure:19039: gcc -c -O2  conftest.c 15



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[Lynx-dev] NetBSD-2.0 headers

2005-03-21 Thread Stef Caunter
I'm building a NetBSD-2.0 box tonight and get the usual header errors. Was
there a workaround short of getting them to fix their OS?

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Re: [Lynx-dev] configuring lynx with ssl

2005-03-16 Thread Stef Caunter
This just means you have not installed the binary to where the original copy of
the lynx browser is located on the system (you need root to do that).

You can use the binary you built in your home directory; if you put ~/bin in
your PATH and allow lynx to find a lynx.cfg file you will be able to use your
new lynx.

./lynx -version

will confirm your build with ssl

./lynx -cfg ./lynx.cfg

will start the new copy of the browser.

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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Joel Salomon wrote:

 On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:12:35 -0500, Joel Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks, it's working.
 
 Spoke too soon:
 Alert!: This client does not contain support for HTTPS URLs.

 I'm sure I missed something trivial, but I don't see it handy in the archives.

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Re: [Lynx-dev] configuring lynx with ssl

2005-03-15 Thread Stef Caunter
try

./configure --with-ssl=/usr/include

or
./configure --with-ssl=/usr/include/openssl

Very often (if you can) installing latest openssl to default locations on a
system will allow it to be picked up by configure.

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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Joel Salomon wrote:

 Hello:
 I'm trying to configure lynx2-8-6 to use ssl, but...

 ./configure --prefix=/yada/yada --with-ssl gives me (after a whole
 bunch of configure messages):
 ...
 checking for inet_aton function... yes
 checking for SSL_get_version in -lssl... yes
 checking for openssl include directory... no
 checking if we can link to ssl library... no
 configure: error: Cannot link with ssl library
 bash-2.05b$

 So I have -lssl - I just can't use it!
 My openssl include directory is /usr/include/openssl - what do I put
 in --with-ssl=

 --with-ssl=/usr gives:
 ...
 checking for inet_aton function... yes
 checking for openssl include directory... no
 checking if we can link to ssl library... no
 configure: error: Cannot link with ssl library
 bash-2.05b$

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[Lynx-dev] cygwin compile error

2005-02-08 Thread Stef Caunter
I'm new to cygwin, just did a complete install - this is an error when I try
to bring its lynx from 2.8.4 (!) to either 2.8.5rel1 or 2.8.6dev11.
Do I have to upgrade gcc or other tools/headers/libraries?

LYStrings.c: In function `expand_tiname':
LYStrings.c:930: error: `strnames' undeclared (first use in this function)
LYStrings.c:930: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
LYStrings.c:930: error: for each function it appears in.)
LYStrings.c:931: error: `strfnames' undeclared (first use in this function)
LYStrings.c:932: error: `cur_term' undeclared (first use in this function)
make[1]: *** [LYStrings.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/lynx2-8-5/src'
make: *** [all] Error 2


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Re: [Lynx-dev] cygwin compile error

2005-02-08 Thread Stef Caunter
 it omits a link for term.h

 Adding that link should make things work

in /usr/include I did - ln ncurses/term.h term.h

improved things: we get to linking the .o files.
During linking stops at

../WWW/Library/Implementation/libwww.a(HTTCP.o)(.text+0x71b):HTTCP.c: undefined 
reference to `_WSASetLastError'
Info: resolving _cur_term by linking to __imp__cur_term (auto-import)
Info: resolving _curscr by linking to __imp__curscr (auto-import)
Info: resolving _stdscr by linking to __imp__stdscr (auto-import)
Info: resolving _COLORS by linking to __imp__COLORS (auto-import)
Info: resolving _COLOR_PAIRS by linking to __imp__COLOR_PAIRS (auto-import)
Info: resolving _ttytype by linking to __imp__ttytype (auto-import)
Info: resolving _LINES by linking to __imp__LINES (auto-import)
Info: resolving _COLS by linking to __imp__COLS (auto-import)
Info: resolving _h_errno by linking to __imp__h_errno (auto-import)
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[1]: *** [lynx.exe] Error 1
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Re: [Lynx-dev] LYNX: copy of reply (re lynx) to Stallman, re self-link via 'print'

2005-02-05 Thread Stef Caunter
The self-link request (which I have often wished for while standing on my he$
to send a link from a shell) is a good one.

Is there a PRINTER: hack? You would need %s to not be the page; does the url
populate some other variable?

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 The absolutely best *solution* to this no-self-link
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Re: [Lynx-dev] how to maximize client area???

2005-02-03 Thread Stef Caunter
Is it win32 or DOS? I haven't heard of *nix sans sed.

perhaps sed is not in your $PATH for sh? try

/bin/bash or whatever instead of sh, or use full /path/to/sed

Stef

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Re: Lynx as primary browser (was Re: [Lynx-dev] how to maximize client area???)

2005-02-01 Thread Stef Caunter
I think this is a nice side effect to google optimization practices which are
filtering down to web developers. I've long thought that googlebot sees like
lynx, and perhaps there is now evident confirmation of this.

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, Seth House wrote:

 Lynx should (and does) keep up with modern standards, and I believe
 that web designers are moving toward more Lynx-friendly practices. If
 you need proof hit the new Disney Store UK or Chevrolet websites with
 Lynx: they're beautiful!

 http://disneystore-shopping.disney.co.uk/store/Home.aspx
 http://www.chevrolet.com/


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Re: [Lynx-dev] it doesn't render tables.... :-(

2005-01-31 Thread Stef Caunter
What is the version of lynx? You should get an accurate representation of those
sites that is reasonably pleasant, if not something you might prefer.

Lynx provides a real view of the web; I cannot think of any other user agent
that approaches its accuracy and correctness.

You may have a version/build that is not optimized to your taste, or you may
not be used to the lynx view of things.

There is a configure option (--enable-nested-tables) that may give a display
that is more like what you expect.

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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, Ring, Jerry wrote:

 I used Lynx recently and noticed it doesn't render tables...



 I found ELinks (http://elinks.or.cz/) that actually renders tables,
 color backgrounds, forms, etc...quite smart looking, but they do not
 have a DOS port (or even a Windows port). I was wondering if am I
 misinformed of Lynx? Does Lynx do these features I mentioned and if not
 will they ever be implemented?



 I tried for example viewing drudgereport.com and Slashdot.org and it
 looks horrible. Its hard for me to get a sense of what is where (webpage
 layout). I understand it is a text browser but it shouldn't have to be
 this limited. Don't mean to be ugly...just disappointed that's all.



 Thanks.



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Re: [Lynx-dev] how to maximize client area???

2005-01-30 Thread Stef Caunter
I think choice to have or not have indents is important; personally, I -dump
out pages and have to :%s/^   // out the spaces in vi, and anything over 79
cols wraps, (small gripe).

But I won't see lynx marginalized here. For many people it is our primary
browser for HTTP; no one's personal usage has a priori primacy in a universal
context. The lynx browser is as useful as you choose to make it.

Stef

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 surely, anyone outside the poorest parts of the World today
 has access to Firefox, Konqueror  other graphical browsers,
 which display WWW pages as their authors intend them to be seen.
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Re: [Lynx-dev] how to maximize client area???

2005-01-29 Thread Stef Caunter
Thanks. I posted to know about its purpose (haven't seen anything on it
before).

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Thomas Dickey wrote:

 justify-elts won't pack any more words into the same line, it just makes
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Re: [Lynx-dev] how to maximize client area???

2005-01-29 Thread Stef Caunter
Both views have merit. The stability and predictability of the display are
practical necessities; yet one might wish to not have the 3 '   ' left margin.

Perhaps a userdefs.h solution would allow it to be changed on a site/distro
basis?

Stef

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Thorsten Glaser wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit:

 [ left and right margin ]
 isn't it time to remove this rather burocratic left-over (smile) ?

 No.

 I had a Lynx which used full screen width by accident, I don't
 know on which page but I think it was slashdot, must have been
 something with their layout. It sucks.

 I'd like my Lynx to stay as-is because Lynx is simply the best
 browser _because_ of its way to display things. (That goes for
 the non-existant support of frames and tables too (but some of
 the tables I saw would be renderable by lynx) because e.g. the
 way links -g does it trashes keyboard navigation.)

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Re: [Lynx-dev] dump command via batchfile

2005-01-21 Thread Stef Caunter
Sounds like there may be environment variables not present in the batch?
Usually if lynx is okay on command line and isn't okay inside a script this is
the place to check.

Also, there should be a win32 2.8.5 version, which may be of help if the
environment is not the problem. There is different table support
selectable at compile time; you don't say if you use a binary distribution or
roll your own.

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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, C wrote:

 Howdy

 I have this problem with lynx.

 if i run a command from a cmd window in xp , with the download option and
 then pipe the output like this it works fine
 ie  temp.txt

 but if i copy that to a batch file and run it , it misses a another http
 call to update a table on the first page called...which is the info i need
 :O/


 here is my command usage
 C:\tempforlynxlynx.exe -dump -timeout=15
 http://www.futuresource.com/quotes/
 custom.jsp?us=s=DJs=NQs=SPs=SMs=FVmc=1divider=fields=desc%2Cmonthyea
 r%2C
 last%2Cchgoldsettle%2Copen%2Chigh%2Clow%2Cnewsettle%2Cdatetime temp.txt
 [this works in cmd window fine but in a batch file some info is missing]



 i am using the win32 ver 2.8.4 ,operating system windows xp servicepack 2

 Cheers
 cameron
 ps my appoligies if this is the wrong place for this sort of thing.


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Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx2.8.6dev.9

2004-12-31 Thread Stef Caunter
Not only do you mention good reasons for still using lynx but also, I've had
broadband (+100K down) since 99, and I find lynx is still indispensible:
1. it's still faster (reduce ALERT timing!)
2. if you work in a shell it's the best maintained user-agent by far IMHO
   and lets you google fastest for info - better productivity
3. it is a superb download manager
4. with a proper cryptographic filesystem you can secure access to your
   bookmarks and cookies
5. its server certificate handling with the *nix system is excellent
6. many users prefer a .cfg file for settings
7. it's an excellent way to teach many important *nix fundamentals
8. the increasing pollution of scripted advertising is bypassed (see many
   major media sites)
9. the absence of javascript support is becoming a plus IMHO
10. the lynx-dev list is one of the most interesting :)

lynx to me is one of the core *nix apps; the presence of an up to date version
on a system is important, just like pine or gcc or vi. There is no
substitute. Lynx is an original treasure and a real gift to us all.

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  Neat site, BTW!

 indeed !  i don't know how i've missed it till now !
 tho' i'm not sure why anyone would use Lynx to access it today.
 i continue to use Lynx to mail news stories to people (with Mutt+Gvim),
 browse local files (typically help dox in remote dirs under  /usr )
  access  1  major newspaper which refuses to deal with other browsers
 due to some quirk in its handling of cookies  registration.
 Lynx lost its big advantage -- speed -- with the spread of broadband.

 anyway, i certainly echo the vote of thanx to TD for working on it.

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Re: [Lynx-dev] Moving past a Search Field

2004-11-16 Thread Stef Caunter
this seems to refer to 2 different searches

   On rare occasions, I will go to a site and find there is a
 search form staring me in the face.  At that point, any characters
 typed on the keyboard are assumed to be part of the search string.  If
 I tab a couple of times, the form is submitted all be it empty.  Is
 there a more elegant way to break out of a search form if one isn't
 interested in searching at the time?

Seems to refer to a form submittal of a search string to a server (server side
search).

In this case using lynx -tna will help, although I am not sure why any
form would submit with just tabbing...

The -tna option (TEXTFIELDS_NEED_ACTIVATION:TRUE in lynx.cfg) lets you
navigate a page without stumbling over text entry forms; you have to hit
Enter to start typing into a form box (before submitting the POST or GET),
which requires an input type=submit tag somewhere in the form tag structure
(javascript won't do). So arrow or vi_key cursor pushing works more
predictably.

   In pages where the search form isn't the first link, I can use
 a / and tell lynx to search for some word or expression that appears
 below the search box and that works okay, but what if the search form
 is the very first thing one encounters?

Seems to refer to a search of the contents of a displayed page (client side
search). Different situation, but -tna will at least skip over those text
boxes.

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2004-10-19 Thread Stef Caunter
On Slackware (2.4.26 kernel), after I leave an X session (blackbox) lynx
(2.8.6dev7, pretty much stock compile) is unable to stay in a page - it
retrieves and displays the page and then returns to the shell. Behaves normally
if I log out and log back in. Reminds me of the NetBSD thing where you got
stty -echo after a lynx session.

Have we heard of this behaviour?

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Re: [Lynx-dev] Re: Lynx fails on http://politiken.dk

2004-10-11 Thread Stef Caunter
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, Morten Bo Johansen wrote:

 If this is becoming a trend with hand-fisted
 administrators to block on user-agent lines with libwww in them, then
 maybe we should think about changing the default value in Lynx?


It's ham-fisted :)

Like the proposed change.

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