Re: Latin Modern in Dropped Capitals

[William F. Adams]

On Nov 9, 2005, at 11:11 PM, Jim Osborn wrote:


I installed teTeX-3.0 some time after building LyX-1.3.5 (Qt).  I had
been running teTeX-1.0.7.  The Latin Modern fonts are installed as
part of the teTeX-3.0 installation, and I can use them in the normal
text of a LyX document via the FAQ instructions \usepackage{lmodern}.

However, the dropped capital package requires fonts specified with
their nicknames ptmr, yfrak, ecrm1000 etc. and when I try
using lmr or lmr10 I get LaTeX errors about missing TFM files.


My guess here is that lmr and lmr10 are getting used in an unsupported 
encoding.


ptmr == the knock-off of Times bundled w/ GhostScript
yfrak == nifty fraktur font (you should be able to install this from 
CTAN or your LaTeX setup front-end if available)



The TFM files seemed to get built automatically as needed for the ec
fonts, so I'd think the same would happen for the lm family, but
so far, they're not.

Do I need to build TFM files manually, or is there something else
I need to tell LyX?  Do I need to add entries in the LyX configure
script that makes symlinks in .../lyx/xfonts for various .pfb files?
Something else?

I thought I better ask here before charging off on a bunch of
blind alleys.


I think if you set it up so that the font is called out in a supported 
encoding you'll be fine. Don't use lmr10 though, if you're not setting 
a 10pt. dropped capital, instead pick a larger optical size so it'll 
look nicer.


William
(who argued really hard to get Jacko to support more optical sizes when 
working up his paper for TUG2003)


--
William Adams, publishing specialist
voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708
www.atlis.com

Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are false so no output. Any suggestions?

[John Kane]

I have just tried to install LyX 1.3.6 under Windows
XP.  I like what I have seen but I have a problem. As
the heading says: I cannot produce any output because
LyX has marked all the layouts apparently as not
existing.

I have installed 
ImageMagick-6.2.5-4-Q16-windows-dll
Ghostscript gs853w32
ActivePerl-5.6.1.638-MSWin32-x86
MiKTeX 2.4 or 2.5  ( I chose the large installation
not the total one)
msys1.1.10 (I also followed the advice in the
installation to rename make.exe - mingw.32-make.exe
on my second installation)

LyX seems to be unable to find some components.  Once
the installation is complete I loaded LyX I opened up
the Tutorial file and got the message. 
TeX class error 
The document uses a missing TeX class “book”
LyX will not be able to produce output.

I receive the same message when loading an letter
template.

Neither Export or dvi works.  
However I seem to be able to input  text into a
document, and save it.

I opened up the textclass.lst and found that all
classes were set to “false” See below for some of the
text.  I checked the LyX \resources\templates and
\layouts folders and there are templates and layouts
there including aa which in Textclass.lst is reported
as “false”

Unfortunately I have yet to figure out how to capture
all of the installation information that goes racing
by on the screen so I don't have a good listing to
check. 

I have done a complete reinstall of everything with no
success. 

I wonder if anyone might be able to suggest something
I might try.



Textclass.lst

# This file declares layouts and their associated
definition files
# (include dir. relative to the place where this file
is).
# It contains only default values, since chkconfig.ltx
could not be run
# for some reason. Run ./configure if you need to
update it after a
# configuration change.
IEEEtran IEEEtran article (IEEEtran) false
aa aa article (AA) false
aapaper aa article (AA V4) false






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redefining author section

[Martin A. Hansen]

hiyas.

i am at my wits end:

how to left-justify the author section?

how to reduce the hskip that \and introduces?

i have this from somewhere:

\def\and{\end {tabular}\hskip 1em [EMAIL PROTECTED] .17fil\begin 
{tabular}[t]{c}}

but i need to reformat the \and command somehow?



martin

Re: #lyx on freenode?

[chr]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:

 the lyx mailing list is busy as always, and it is delightful to see all
 sorts of questions (also off topic ones) are answered and debated in a
 friendly atmosphere.
 
 i was wondering if some of the lengthy threads would benefit from being
 discussed on IRC - and i am wondering why there is only 7 nicks on
 #lyx/freenode. of cause an IRC channel needs critical mass in order to
 be a success - that is, a minimum of online people because it is not
 fruitful talking to yourself.

You don't happen to have an URI or something for this thing? (I don't use 
IRC very often... is 'freenode' the name of some kind of server and '#lyx' 
the name of the channel on that server?

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: #lyx on freenode?

[Martin A. Hansen]

ok - here goes (minded for the wiki):


Questions, answers, and debate in a friendly atmosphere takes place on IRC
at the #lyx channel on the Freenode network. In order to get there, you need
a IRC client such as the excellent text based client irssi (or mIRC for
windows).

http://freenode.net/
http://irssi.org/
http://www.mirc.com/

Next you need to connect to your local Freenode server - choose one from the
list:

http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml

Finally it is just a matter of connecting.

$ irssi irc.debian.org http://irc.debian.org

and when connection is established:

/join #lyx

The channel may appear very quite, but try to look in between 20.00-22.00CET.

And in a quite period it is a good idea to check out the channel guidelines:

http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml



martin




On 10/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:

  the lyx mailing list is busy as always, and it is delightful to see all
  sorts of questions (also off topic ones) are answered and debated in a
  friendly atmosphere.
 
  i was wondering if some of the lengthy threads would benefit from being
  discussed on IRC - and i am wondering why there is only 7 nicks on
  #lyx/freenode. of cause an IRC channel needs critical mass in order to
  be a success - that is, a minimum of online people because it is not
  fruitful talking to yourself.

 You don't happen to have an URI or something for this thing? (I don't use
 IRC very often... is 'freenode' the name of some kind of server and '#lyx'
 the name of the channel on that server?

 /Christian

 --
 Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: #lyx on freenode?

[chr]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:

 ok - here goes (minded for the wiki):

Thanks, you read my mind :-)

I made some minor changes (and hopefully no blunders :-) and placed it
here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/IRC

/C

 
 
 Questions, answers, and debate in a friendly atmosphere takes place on IRC
 at the #lyx channel on the Freenode network. In order to get there, you need
 a IRC client such as the excellent text based client irssi (or mIRC for
 windows).
 
 http://freenode.net/
 http://irssi.org/
 http://www.mirc.com/
 
 Next you need to connect to your local Freenode server - choose one from the
 list:
 
 http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml
 
 Finally it is just a matter of connecting.
 
 $ irssi irc.debian.org http://irc.debian.org
 
 and when connection is established:
 
 /join #lyx
 
 The channel may appear very quite, but try to look in between 20.00-22.00CET.
 
 And in a quite period it is a good idea to check out the channel guidelines:
 
 http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml
 
 
 
 martin
 
 
 
 
 On 10/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:
 
   the lyx mailing list is busy as always, and it is delightful to see all
   sorts of questions (also off topic ones) are answered and debated in a
   friendly atmosphere.
  
   i was wondering if some of the lengthy threads would benefit from being
   discussed on IRC - and i am wondering why there is only 7 nicks on
   #lyx/freenode. of cause an IRC channel needs critical mass in order to
   be a success - that is, a minimum of online people because it is not
   fruitful talking to yourself.
 
  You don't happen to have an URI or something for this thing? (I don't use
  IRC very often... is 'freenode' the name of some kind of server and '#lyx'
  the name of the channel on that server?
 
  /Christian
 
  --
  Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
 
 
 
 

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Latin Modern in Dropped Capitals

[Jim Osborn]

On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at  8:30:59AM -0500, William F. Adams wrote:
 My guess here is that lmr and lmr10 are getting used in an
 unsupported encoding. 

Examining my TEXMF tree, I find in .../fonts/tfm/public/lm/:
  cork-lm*.tfm
  qx-lm*.tfm
  texnansi-lm*.tfm
  ts1-lm*.tfm
where * represents the full suite of b,bx.r,ri,ro,ss,tt,etc.,
in sizes 5,6.7,8,9,10,12 and 17.  I think, as a bit of a novice,
that cork, qx, etc. are various encodings, and that cork is a
TeX standard thing that I'd expect to be supported.


 ptmr == the knock-off of Times bundled w/ GhostScript
 yfrak == nifty fraktur font (you should be able to install this...

Both ptmr and yfrak just work out of the box after the unadorned
teTeX installation (they come as part of teTeX-3, as does lm).  I
should mention that I removed all traces of the teTeX-1.0 installation
prior to installing teTeX-3, and configured the new one to include
everything except the cjk portion.


 The TFM files seemed to get built automatically as needed for the
 ec fonts, so I'd think the same would happen for the lm family,
 but so far, they're not. 
 ...
 I think if you set it up so that the font is called out in a
 supported encoding you'll be fine. Don't use lmr10 though, if
 you're not setting a 10pt. dropped capital, instead pick a larger
 optical size so it'll look nicer. 

Yeah, I realized after I sent my prior note (and examining the
lmodern.sty file) that lmr is the name to use. 

Any suggestions how to set it up so that the font is called out in a
supported encoding?  I tried referring to the font as cork-lmr but
that gives the same LaTeX error:
   Font \BIG=cork-lmr not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found.
\bigdrop{0em}{\droplines}{\dropfont}{T}
(after \newcommand{\dropfont}{cork-lmr} in the preamble)

The fact that the teTeX installation set up the other fonts, like yfrak,
so that they're usable makes me think the problem is something simple.
When I tested the yfrak font in preparation for this note, I noticed
the View-DVI process made a new entry in teTeX's VARTEXFONTS tree
(I hadn't used yfrak since the teTeX-3 install); no action occurs there
with the Latin Modern fonts.

If I knew what's different, from TeX's (or LyX's) point of view,
between ptmr/yfrak/ecrm1000/cmr10 and lmr, I'd know what direction
to charge off in.  As I said, my novice status opens up lots of alleys
to explore, many of which, though interesting and edifying, don't
solve the problem at hand. :)

Thanks for the response,

Jim

Re: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are false so no output. Any suggestions?

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: John Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:43 AM
Subject: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are false  so 
no output. Any suggestions?




I have just tried to install LyX 1.3.6 under Windows
XP.  I like what I have seen but I have a problem. As
the heading says: I cannot produce any output because
LyX has marked all the layouts apparently as not
existing.



Sometimes/importantly the prior installation of configuration data
is not erased, so a fresh install requires this. Drag this to the recycle
bin: C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\LyX
Sometimes you have to unhide folders like \Application data

It is a good idea to use Control Panel -- Add/Remove programs
and start anew. This is what I have for the right Minsys .exe

Directory of C:\msys

11/10/2005  11:06 AMDIR  .
11/10/2005  11:06 AMDIR  ..
08/14/2005  11:49 AMDIR  1.0
07/31/2005  01:05 PM 2,808,061 MSYS-1.0.10.exe

I think you may have done a larger install because as I recall
renaming make is done as part of a bigger install, although
it may not hurt. Not correctly installing Minsys and Latex are
often the culprits for producing that textclass error, which I
think is also still produced if you use the Uwe installer rather
than the Angus installer (if you don't know about this option
then don't worrry about it). Other useful things to know about
are Edit -- Reconfigure , to refresh the LyX database and to
check Edit -- Preferences -- -- Paths -- Path Prefix , to
see that LyX has recognized your helper apps at the correct
directory path. I often have to add my Ps viewer (gswin32.exe)
so look at Paths and File Formats if some viewer doesn't work.

My Path -- Path Prefix looks like this (checkout msys entry)

C:\msys\1.0\bin;C:\Python24;C:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\Perl\bin;
C:\gs\gs8.13\bin;C:\ghostgum\gsview;C:\ImageMagick

I think your newer gs is unrelated to the error. If you want
spellchecking, download and install Aspell to C:\Aspell
and get the dictionary of your language also, as mentioned
in http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136 install instructions.

I've installed this on different computers with win xp and with
different versions of latex successfully and without a problem
but for adding a viewer app to the Path prefix occasionally.

So it will work,
Stephen 

Re: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are false so no output. Any suggestions?

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: John Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are false  
so no output. Any suggestions?





- Original Message - 
From: John Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:43 AM
Subject: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are false  
so no output. Any suggestions?




I have just tried to install LyX 1.3.6 under Windows
XP.  I like what I have seen but I have a problem. As
the heading says: I cannot produce any output because
LyX has marked all the layouts apparently as not
existing.


I think you may have done a larger install because as I recall
renaming make is done as part of a bigger install, although
it may not hurt. Not correctly installing Minsys and Latex are
often the culprits for producing that textclass error, which I
think is also still produced if you use the Uwe installer rather
than the Angus installer (if you don't know about this option
then don't worrry about it).


I actually meant Tex Information rather than textclass error
which I think provides some measure for a new user, of a
working intall of the Lyx system, when I mentioned installers.
under View--TeX Information, displays various Latex classes

Regards,
Stephen

Re: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are false so no output. Any suggestions?

[John Kane]

--- Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 - Original Message - 
 From: John Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:43 AM
 Subject: Installation Problem. All entries in
 Textclass.lst are false  so 
 no output. Any suggestions?
 
 
 I have just tried to install LyX 1.3.6 under
 Windows
  XP.  I like what I have seen but I have a problem.
 As
  the heading says: I cannot produce any output
 because
  LyX has marked all the layouts apparently as not
  existing.
 
 
 Sometimes/importantly the prior installation of
 configuration data
 is not erased, so a fresh install requires this.
 Drag this to the recycle
 bin: C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application
 Data\LyX
 Sometimes you have to unhide folders like
 \Application data
 
 It is a good idea to use Control Panel --
 Add/Remove programs
 and start anew. This is what I have for the right
 Minsys .exe
 
 Directory of C:\msys
 
 11/10/2005  11:06 AMDIR  .
 11/10/2005  11:06 AMDIR  ..
 08/14/2005  11:49 AMDIR  1.0
 07/31/2005  01:05 PM 2,808,061
 MSYS-1.0.10.exe
 
 I think you may have done a larger install because
 as I recall
 renaming make is done as part of a bigger install,
 although
 it may not hurt. Not correctly installing Minsys and
 Latex are
 often the culprits for producing that textclass
 error, which I
 think is also still produced if you use the Uwe
 installer rather
 than the Angus installer (if you don't know about
 this option
 then don't worrry about it). Other useful things to
 know about
 are Edit -- Reconfigure , to refresh the LyX
 database and to
 check Edit -- Preferences -- -- Paths -- Path
 Prefix , to
 see that LyX has recognized your helper apps at the
 correct
 directory path. I often have to add my Ps viewer
 (gswin32.exe)
 so look at Paths and File Formats if some viewer
 doesn't work.
 
 My Path -- Path Prefix looks like this (checkout
 msys entry)
 

C:\msys\1.0\bin;C:\Python24;C:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\Perl\bin;
 C:\gs\gs8.13\bin;C:\ghostgum\gsview;C:\ImageMagick
 
 I think your newer gs is unrelated to the error. If
 you want
 spellchecking, download and install Aspell to
 C:\Aspell
 and get the dictionary of your language also, as
 mentioned
 in http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136 install
 instructions.
 
 I've installed this on different computers with win
 xp and with
 different versions of latex successfully and without
 a problem
 but for adding a viewer app to the Path prefix
 occasionally.
 
 So it will work,
 Stephen 
 
 
 







__ 
Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca

Re: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are false so no output. Any suggestions?

[John Kane]

--- Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 - Original Message - 
 From: John Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:43 AM
 Subject: Installation Problem. All entries in
 Textclass.lst are false  so 
 no output. Any suggestions?
 
 
 I have just tried to install LyX 1.3.6 under
 Windows
  XP.  I like what I have seen but I have a problem.
 As
  the heading says: I cannot produce any output
 because
  LyX has marked all the layouts apparently as not
  existing.
 
 
 Sometimes/importantly the prior installation of
 configuration data
 is not erased, so a fresh install requires this.
 Drag this to the recycle
 bin: C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application
 Data\LyX
 Sometimes you have to unhide folders like
 \Application data
 
 It is a good idea to use Control Panel --
 Add/Remove programs
 and start anew. This is what I have for the right
 Minsys .exe
 
 Directory of C:\msys
 
 11/10/2005  11:06 AMDIR  .
 11/10/2005  11:06 AMDIR  ..
 08/14/2005  11:49 AMDIR  1.0
 07/31/2005  01:05 PM 2,808,061
 MSYS-1.0.10.exe

Whereas mine looks like
10/11/2005  04:04 PMDIR   .
10/11/2005  07:30 AMDIR   ..
10/11/2005  04:04 PMDIR   1.0
   0 File(s)   O bytes
   3 Dir(s)  28,478,042,122 bytes free

Mine has no sign of an exe file  so it looks like I
may have found the culprit.

Given that it takes about 40 minutes to load Miktex I
left it installed and got rid of everytiong else but I
have the same result.  Again I was using msys1.1.10 (
but I did not rename make.exe - mingw.32-make.exe)



 I think you may have done a larger install because
 as I recall
 renaming make is done as part of a bigger install,
 although
 it may not hurt. Not correctly installing Minsys and
 Latex are
 often the culprits for producing that textclass
 error, which I
 think is also still produced if you use the Uwe
 installer rather
 than the Angus installer (if you don't know about
 this option
 then don't worrry about it). Other useful things to
 know about
 are Edit -- Reconfigure , to refresh the LyX
 database and to
 check Edit -- Preferences -- -- Paths -- Path
 Prefix , to
 see that LyX has recognized your helper apps at the
 correct
 directory path. I often have to add my Ps viewer
 (gswin32.exe)
 so look at Paths and File Formats if some viewer
 doesn't work.
 
 My Path -- Path Prefix looks like this (checkout
 msys entry)
 

C:\msys\1.0\bin;C:\Python24;C:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\Perl\bin;
 C:\gs\gs8.13\bin;C:\ghostgum\gsview;C:\ImageMagick

My Path __ 
C:\msys\1.0\bin;C:\Python23;C:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\Perl\bin;C:\Program
Files\gs\gs8.53\bin;C:\Program
Files\ImageMagick-6.2.5-Q16
 
 I think your newer gs is unrelated to the error. 

I have noticed that there is nothing under the TeX
Information.  That is  LaTex Classes, LaTex styles and
BibTex styles list are all empty


I notice that my Python is older.

 So it will work,
 Stephen 
 Of course it will :)









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Re: Latin Modern in Dropped Capitals

[William F. Adams]

On Nov 9, 2005, at 11:11 PM, Jim Osborn wrote:


I installed teTeX-3.0 some time after building LyX-1.3.5 (Qt).  I had
been running teTeX-1.0.7.  The Latin Modern fonts are installed as
part of the teTeX-3.0 installation, and I can use them in the normal
text of a LyX document via the FAQ instructions \usepackage{lmodern}.

However, the dropped capital package requires fonts specified with
their nicknames ptmr, yfrak, ecrm1000 etc. and when I try
using lmr or lmr10 I get LaTeX errors about missing TFM files.


My guess here is that lmr and lmr10 are getting used in an unsupported 
encoding.


ptmr == the knock-off of Times bundled w/ GhostScript
yfrak == nifty fraktur font (you should be able to install this from 
CTAN or your LaTeX setup front-end if available)



The TFM files seemed to get built automatically as needed for the ec
fonts, so I'd think the same would happen for the lm family, but
so far, they're not.

Do I need to build TFM files manually, or is there something else
I need to tell LyX?  Do I need to add entries in the LyX configure
script that makes symlinks in .../lyx/xfonts for various .pfb files?
Something else?

I thought I better ask here before charging off on a bunch of
blind alleys.


I think if you set it up so that the font is called out in a supported 
encoding you'll be fine. Don't use lmr10 though, if you're not setting 
a 10pt. dropped capital, instead pick a larger optical size so it'll 
look nicer.


William
(who argued really hard to get Jacko to support more optical sizes when 
working up his paper for TUG2003)


--
William Adams, publishing specialist
voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708
www.atlis.com

Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are false so no output. Any suggestions?

[John Kane]

I have just tried to install LyX 1.3.6 under Windows
XP.  I like what I have seen but I have a problem. As
the heading says: I cannot produce any output because
LyX has marked all the layouts apparently as not
existing.

I have installed 
ImageMagick-6.2.5-4-Q16-windows-dll
Ghostscript gs853w32
ActivePerl-5.6.1.638-MSWin32-x86
MiKTeX 2.4 or 2.5  ( I chose the large installation
not the total one)
msys1.1.10 (I also followed the advice in the
installation to rename make.exe - mingw.32-make.exe
on my second installation)

LyX seems to be unable to find some components.  Once
the installation is complete I loaded LyX I opened up
the Tutorial file and got the message. 
TeX class error 
The document uses a missing TeX class “book”
LyX will not be able to produce output.

I receive the same message when loading an letter
template.

Neither Export or dvi works.  
However I seem to be able to input  text into a
document, and save it.

I opened up the textclass.lst and found that all
classes were set to “false” See below for some of the
text.  I checked the LyX \resources\templates and
\layouts folders and there are templates and layouts
there including aa which in Textclass.lst is reported
as “false”

Unfortunately I have yet to figure out how to capture
all of the installation information that goes racing
by on the screen so I don't have a good listing to
check. 

I have done a complete reinstall of everything with no
success. 

I wonder if anyone might be able to suggest something
I might try.



Textclass.lst

# This file declares layouts and their associated
definition files
# (include dir. relative to the place where this file
is).
# It contains only default values, since chkconfig.ltx
could not be run
# for some reason. Run ./configure if you need to
update it after a
# configuration change.
IEEEtran IEEEtran article (IEEEtran) false
aa aa article (AA) false
aapaper aa article (AA V4) false






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redefining author section

[Martin A. Hansen]

hiyas.

i am at my wits end:

how to left-justify the author section?

how to reduce the hskip that \and introduces?

i have this from somewhere:

\def\and{\end {tabular}\hskip 1em [EMAIL PROTECTED] .17fil\begin 
{tabular}[t]{c}}

but i need to reformat the \and command somehow?



martin

Re: #lyx on freenode?

[chr]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:

 the lyx mailing list is busy as always, and it is delightful to see all
 sorts of questions (also off topic ones) are answered and debated in a
 friendly atmosphere.
 
 i was wondering if some of the lengthy threads would benefit from being
 discussed on IRC - and i am wondering why there is only 7 nicks on
 #lyx/freenode. of cause an IRC channel needs critical mass in order to
 be a success - that is, a minimum of online people because it is not
 fruitful talking to yourself.

You don't happen to have an URI or something for this thing? (I don't use 
IRC very often... is 'freenode' the name of some kind of server and '#lyx' 
the name of the channel on that server?

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: #lyx on freenode?

[Martin A. Hansen]

ok - here goes (minded for the wiki):


Questions, answers, and debate in a friendly atmosphere takes place on IRC
at the #lyx channel on the Freenode network. In order to get there, you need
a IRC client such as the excellent text based client irssi (or mIRC for
windows).

http://freenode.net/
http://irssi.org/
http://www.mirc.com/

Next you need to connect to your local Freenode server - choose one from the
list:

http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml

Finally it is just a matter of connecting.

$ irssi irc.debian.org http://irc.debian.org

and when connection is established:

/join #lyx

The channel may appear very quite, but try to look in between 20.00-22.00CET.

And in a quite period it is a good idea to check out the channel guidelines:

http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml



martin




On 10/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:

  the lyx mailing list is busy as always, and it is delightful to see all
  sorts of questions (also off topic ones) are answered and debated in a
  friendly atmosphere.
 
  i was wondering if some of the lengthy threads would benefit from being
  discussed on IRC - and i am wondering why there is only 7 nicks on
  #lyx/freenode. of cause an IRC channel needs critical mass in order to
  be a success - that is, a minimum of online people because it is not
  fruitful talking to yourself.

 You don't happen to have an URI or something for this thing? (I don't use
 IRC very often... is 'freenode' the name of some kind of server and '#lyx'
 the name of the channel on that server?

 /Christian

 --
 Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: #lyx on freenode?

[chr]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:

 ok - here goes (minded for the wiki):

Thanks, you read my mind :-)

I made some minor changes (and hopefully no blunders :-) and placed it
here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/IRC

/C

 
 
 Questions, answers, and debate in a friendly atmosphere takes place on IRC
 at the #lyx channel on the Freenode network. In order to get there, you need
 a IRC client such as the excellent text based client irssi (or mIRC for
 windows).
 
 http://freenode.net/
 http://irssi.org/
 http://www.mirc.com/
 
 Next you need to connect to your local Freenode server - choose one from the
 list:
 
 http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml
 
 Finally it is just a matter of connecting.
 
 $ irssi irc.debian.org http://irc.debian.org
 
 and when connection is established:
 
 /join #lyx
 
 The channel may appear very quite, but try to look in between 20.00-22.00CET.
 
 And in a quite period it is a good idea to check out the channel guidelines:
 
 http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml
 
 
 
 martin
 
 
 
 
 On 10/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:
 
   the lyx mailing list is busy as always, and it is delightful to see all
   sorts of questions (also off topic ones) are answered and debated in a
   friendly atmosphere.
  
   i was wondering if some of the lengthy threads would benefit from being
   discussed on IRC - and i am wondering why there is only 7 nicks on
   #lyx/freenode. of cause an IRC channel needs critical mass in order to
   be a success - that is, a minimum of online people because it is not
   fruitful talking to yourself.
 
  You don't happen to have an URI or something for this thing? (I don't use
  IRC very often... is 'freenode' the name of some kind of server and '#lyx'
  the name of the channel on that server?
 
  /Christian
 
  --
  Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
 
 
 
 

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Latin Modern in Dropped Capitals

[Jim Osborn]

On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at  8:30:59AM -0500, William F. Adams wrote:
 My guess here is that lmr and lmr10 are getting used in an
 unsupported encoding. 

Examining my TEXMF tree, I find in .../fonts/tfm/public/lm/:
  cork-lm*.tfm
  qx-lm*.tfm
  texnansi-lm*.tfm
  ts1-lm*.tfm
where * represents the full suite of b,bx.r,ri,ro,ss,tt,etc.,
in sizes 5,6.7,8,9,10,12 and 17.  I think, as a bit of a novice,
that cork, qx, etc. are various encodings, and that cork is a
TeX standard thing that I'd expect to be supported.


 ptmr == the knock-off of Times bundled w/ GhostScript
 yfrak == nifty fraktur font (you should be able to install this...

Both ptmr and yfrak just work out of the box after the unadorned
teTeX installation (they come as part of teTeX-3, as does lm).  I
should mention that I removed all traces of the teTeX-1.0 installation
prior to installing teTeX-3, and configured the new one to include
everything except the cjk portion.


 The TFM files seemed to get built automatically as needed for the
 ec fonts, so I'd think the same would happen for the lm family,
 but so far, they're not. 
 ...
 I think if you set it up so that the font is called out in a
 supported encoding you'll be fine. Don't use lmr10 though, if
 you're not setting a 10pt. dropped capital, instead pick a larger
 optical size so it'll look nicer. 

Yeah, I realized after I sent my prior note (and examining the
lmodern.sty file) that lmr is the name to use. 

Any suggestions how to set it up so that the font is called out in a
supported encoding?  I tried referring to the font as cork-lmr but
that gives the same LaTeX error:
   Font \BIG=cork-lmr not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found.
\bigdrop{0em}{\droplines}{\dropfont}{T}
(after \newcommand{\dropfont}{cork-lmr} in the preamble)

The fact that the teTeX installation set up the other fonts, like yfrak,
so that they're usable makes me think the problem is something simple.
When I tested the yfrak font in preparation for this note, I noticed
the View-DVI process made a new entry in teTeX's VARTEXFONTS tree
(I hadn't used yfrak since the teTeX-3 install); no action occurs there
with the Latin Modern fonts.

If I knew what's different, from TeX's (or LyX's) point of view,
between ptmr/yfrak/ecrm1000/cmr10 and lmr, I'd know what direction
to charge off in.  As I said, my novice status opens up lots of alleys
to explore, many of which, though interesting and edifying, don't
solve the problem at hand. :)

Thanks for the response,

Jim

Re: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are false so no output. Any suggestions?

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: John Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:43 AM
Subject: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are false  so 
no output. Any suggestions?




I have just tried to install LyX 1.3.6 under Windows
XP.  I like what I have seen but I have a problem. As
the heading says: I cannot produce any output because
LyX has marked all the layouts apparently as not
existing.



Sometimes/importantly the prior installation of configuration data
is not erased, so a fresh install requires this. Drag this to the recycle
bin: C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\LyX
Sometimes you have to unhide folders like \Application data

It is a good idea to use Control Panel -- Add/Remove programs
and start anew. This is what I have for the right Minsys .exe

Directory of C:\msys

11/10/2005  11:06 AMDIR  .
11/10/2005  11:06 AMDIR  ..
08/14/2005  11:49 AMDIR  1.0
07/31/2005  01:05 PM 2,808,061 MSYS-1.0.10.exe

I think you may have done a larger install because as I recall
renaming make is done as part of a bigger install, although
it may not hurt. Not correctly installing Minsys and Latex are
often the culprits for producing that textclass error, which I
think is also still produced if you use the Uwe installer rather
than the Angus installer (if you don't know about this option
then don't worrry about it). Other useful things to know about
are Edit -- Reconfigure , to refresh the LyX database and to
check Edit -- Preferences -- -- Paths -- Path Prefix , to
see that LyX has recognized your helper apps at the correct
directory path. I often have to add my Ps viewer (gswin32.exe)
so look at Paths and File Formats if some viewer doesn't work.

My Path -- Path Prefix looks like this (checkout msys entry)

C:\msys\1.0\bin;C:\Python24;C:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\Perl\bin;
C:\gs\gs8.13\bin;C:\ghostgum\gsview;C:\ImageMagick

I think your newer gs is unrelated to the error. If you want
spellchecking, download and install Aspell to C:\Aspell
and get the dictionary of your language also, as mentioned
in http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136 install instructions.

I've installed this on different computers with win xp and with
different versions of latex successfully and without a problem
but for adding a viewer app to the Path prefix occasionally.

So it will work,
Stephen 

Re: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are false so no output. Any suggestions?

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: John Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are false  
so no output. Any suggestions?





- Original Message - 
From: John Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:43 AM
Subject: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are false  
so no output. Any suggestions?




I have just tried to install LyX 1.3.6 under Windows
XP.  I like what I have seen but I have a problem. As
the heading says: I cannot produce any output because
LyX has marked all the layouts apparently as not
existing.


I think you may have done a larger install because as I recall
renaming make is done as part of a bigger install, although
it may not hurt. Not correctly installing Minsys and Latex are
often the culprits for producing that textclass error, which I
think is also still produced if you use the Uwe installer rather
than the Angus installer (if you don't know about this option
then don't worrry about it).


I actually meant Tex Information rather than textclass error
which I think provides some measure for a new user, of a
working intall of the Lyx system, when I mentioned installers.
under View--TeX Information, displays various Latex classes

Regards,
Stephen

Re: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are false so no output. Any suggestions?

[John Kane]

--- Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 - Original Message - 
 From: John Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:43 AM
 Subject: Installation Problem. All entries in
 Textclass.lst are false  so 
 no output. Any suggestions?
 
 
 I have just tried to install LyX 1.3.6 under
 Windows
  XP.  I like what I have seen but I have a problem.
 As
  the heading says: I cannot produce any output
 because
  LyX has marked all the layouts apparently as not
  existing.
 
 
 Sometimes/importantly the prior installation of
 configuration data
 is not erased, so a fresh install requires this.
 Drag this to the recycle
 bin: C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application
 Data\LyX
 Sometimes you have to unhide folders like
 \Application data
 
 It is a good idea to use Control Panel --
 Add/Remove programs
 and start anew. This is what I have for the right
 Minsys .exe
 
 Directory of C:\msys
 
 11/10/2005  11:06 AMDIR  .
 11/10/2005  11:06 AMDIR  ..
 08/14/2005  11:49 AMDIR  1.0
 07/31/2005  01:05 PM 2,808,061
 MSYS-1.0.10.exe
 
 I think you may have done a larger install because
 as I recall
 renaming make is done as part of a bigger install,
 although
 it may not hurt. Not correctly installing Minsys and
 Latex are
 often the culprits for producing that textclass
 error, which I
 think is also still produced if you use the Uwe
 installer rather
 than the Angus installer (if you don't know about
 this option
 then don't worrry about it). Other useful things to
 know about
 are Edit -- Reconfigure , to refresh the LyX
 database and to
 check Edit -- Preferences -- -- Paths -- Path
 Prefix , to
 see that LyX has recognized your helper apps at the
 correct
 directory path. I often have to add my Ps viewer
 (gswin32.exe)
 so look at Paths and File Formats if some viewer
 doesn't work.
 
 My Path -- Path Prefix looks like this (checkout
 msys entry)
 

C:\msys\1.0\bin;C:\Python24;C:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\Perl\bin;
 C:\gs\gs8.13\bin;C:\ghostgum\gsview;C:\ImageMagick
 
 I think your newer gs is unrelated to the error. If
 you want
 spellchecking, download and install Aspell to
 C:\Aspell
 and get the dictionary of your language also, as
 mentioned
 in http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136 install
 instructions.
 
 I've installed this on different computers with win
 xp and with
 different versions of latex successfully and without
 a problem
 but for adding a viewer app to the Path prefix
 occasionally.
 
 So it will work,
 Stephen 
 
 
 







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Re: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are false so no output. Any suggestions?

[John Kane]

--- Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 - Original Message - 
 From: John Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:43 AM
 Subject: Installation Problem. All entries in
 Textclass.lst are false  so 
 no output. Any suggestions?
 
 
 I have just tried to install LyX 1.3.6 under
 Windows
  XP.  I like what I have seen but I have a problem.
 As
  the heading says: I cannot produce any output
 because
  LyX has marked all the layouts apparently as not
  existing.
 
 
 Sometimes/importantly the prior installation of
 configuration data
 is not erased, so a fresh install requires this.
 Drag this to the recycle
 bin: C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application
 Data\LyX
 Sometimes you have to unhide folders like
 \Application data
 
 It is a good idea to use Control Panel --
 Add/Remove programs
 and start anew. This is what I have for the right
 Minsys .exe
 
 Directory of C:\msys
 
 11/10/2005  11:06 AMDIR  .
 11/10/2005  11:06 AMDIR  ..
 08/14/2005  11:49 AMDIR  1.0
 07/31/2005  01:05 PM 2,808,061
 MSYS-1.0.10.exe

Whereas mine looks like
10/11/2005  04:04 PMDIR   .
10/11/2005  07:30 AMDIR   ..
10/11/2005  04:04 PMDIR   1.0
   0 File(s)   O bytes
   3 Dir(s)  28,478,042,122 bytes free

Mine has no sign of an exe file  so it looks like I
may have found the culprit.

Given that it takes about 40 minutes to load Miktex I
left it installed and got rid of everytiong else but I
have the same result.  Again I was using msys1.1.10 (
but I did not rename make.exe - mingw.32-make.exe)



 I think you may have done a larger install because
 as I recall
 renaming make is done as part of a bigger install,
 although
 it may not hurt. Not correctly installing Minsys and
 Latex are
 often the culprits for producing that textclass
 error, which I
 think is also still produced if you use the Uwe
 installer rather
 than the Angus installer (if you don't know about
 this option
 then don't worrry about it). Other useful things to
 know about
 are Edit -- Reconfigure , to refresh the LyX
 database and to
 check Edit -- Preferences -- -- Paths -- Path
 Prefix , to
 see that LyX has recognized your helper apps at the
 correct
 directory path. I often have to add my Ps viewer
 (gswin32.exe)
 so look at Paths and File Formats if some viewer
 doesn't work.
 
 My Path -- Path Prefix looks like this (checkout
 msys entry)
 

C:\msys\1.0\bin;C:\Python24;C:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\Perl\bin;
 C:\gs\gs8.13\bin;C:\ghostgum\gsview;C:\ImageMagick

My Path __ 
C:\msys\1.0\bin;C:\Python23;C:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\Perl\bin;C:\Program
Files\gs\gs8.53\bin;C:\Program
Files\ImageMagick-6.2.5-Q16
 
 I think your newer gs is unrelated to the error. 

I have noticed that there is nothing under the TeX
Information.  That is  LaTex Classes, LaTex styles and
BibTex styles list are all empty


I notice that my Python is older.

 So it will work,
 Stephen 
 Of course it will :)









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Re: Latin Modern in Dropped Capitals

[William F. Adams]

On Nov 9, 2005, at 11:11 PM, Jim Osborn wrote:


I installed teTeX-3.0 some time after building LyX-1.3.5 (Qt).  I had
been running teTeX-1.0.7.  The Latin Modern fonts are installed as
part of the teTeX-3.0 installation, and I can use them in the normal
text of a LyX document via the FAQ instructions \usepackage{lmodern}.

However, the dropped capital package requires fonts specified with
their nicknames "ptmr", "yfrak", "ecrm1000" etc. and when I try
using "lmr" or "lmr10" I get LaTeX errors about missing TFM files.


My guess here is that lmr and lmr10 are getting used in an unsupported 
encoding.


ptmr == the knock-off of Times bundled w/ GhostScript
yfrak == nifty fraktur font (you should be able to install this from 
CTAN or your LaTeX setup front-end if available)



The TFM files seemed to get built automatically as needed for the ec
fonts, so I'd think the same would happen for the lm family, but
so far, they're not.

Do I need to build TFM files manually, or is there something else
I need to tell LyX?  Do I need to add entries in the LyX configure
script that makes symlinks in .../lyx/xfonts for various .pfb files?
Something else?

I thought I better ask here before charging off on a bunch of
blind alleys.


I think if you set it up so that the font is called out in a supported 
encoding you'll be fine. Don't use lmr10 though, if you're not setting 
a 10pt. dropped capital, instead pick a larger optical size so it'll 
look nicer.


William
(who argued really hard to get Jacko to support more optical sizes when 
working up his paper for TUG2003)


--
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voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708
www.atlis.com

Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are "false " so no output. Any suggestions?

[John Kane]

I have just tried to install LyX 1.3.6 under Windows
XP.  I like what I have seen but I have a problem. As
the heading says: I cannot produce any output because
LyX has marked all the layouts apparently as not
existing.

I have installed 
ImageMagick-6.2.5-4-Q16-windows-dll
Ghostscript gs853w32
ActivePerl-5.6.1.638-MSWin32-x86
MiKTeX 2.4 or 2.5  ( I chose the large installation
not the total one)
msys1.1.10 (I also followed the advice in the
installation to rename make.exe -> mingw.32-make.exe
on my second installation)

LyX seems to be unable to find some components.  Once
the installation is complete I loaded LyX I opened up
the Tutorial file and got the message. 
TeX class error 
The document uses a missing TeX class “book”
LyX will not be able to produce output.

I receive the same message when loading an letter
template.

Neither Export or dvi works.  
However I seem to be able to input  text into a
document, and save it.

I opened up the textclass.lst and found that all
classes were set to “false” See below for some of the
text.  I checked the LyX \resources\templates and
\layouts folders and there are templates and layouts
there including aa which in Textclass.lst is reported
as “false”

Unfortunately I have yet to figure out how to capture
all of the installation information that goes racing
by on the screen so I don't have a good listing to
check. 

I have done a complete reinstall of everything with no
success. 

I wonder if anyone might be able to suggest something
I might try.



Textclass.lst

# This file declares layouts and their associated
definition files
# (include dir. relative to the place where this file
is).
# It contains only default values, since chkconfig.ltx
could not be run
# for some reason. Run ./configure if you need to
update it after a
# configuration change.
"IEEEtran" "IEEEtran" "article (IEEEtran)" "false"
"aa" "aa" "article (A)" "false"
"aapaper" "aa" "article (A V4)" "false"






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redefining author section

[Martin A. Hansen]

hiyas.

i am at my wits end:

how to left-justify the author section?

how to reduce the hskip that \and introduces?

i have this from somewhere:

\def\and{\end {tabular}\hskip 1em [EMAIL PROTECTED] .17fil\begin 
{tabular}[t]{c}}

but i need to reformat the \and command somehow?



martin

Re: #lyx on freenode?

[chr]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:

> the lyx mailing list is busy as always, and it is delightful to see all
> sorts of questions (also off topic ones) are answered and debated in a
> friendly atmosphere.
> 
> i was wondering if some of the lengthy threads would benefit from being
> discussed on IRC - and i am wondering why there is only 7 nicks on
> #lyx/freenode. of cause an IRC channel needs critical mass in order to
> be a success - that is, a minimum of online people because it is not
> fruitful talking to yourself.

You don't happen to have an URI or something for this thing? (I don't use 
IRC very often... is 'freenode' the name of some kind of server and '#lyx' 
the name of the "channel" on that server?

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: #lyx on freenode?

[Martin A. Hansen]

ok - here goes (minded for the wiki):


Questions, answers, and debate in a friendly atmosphere takes place on IRC
at the #lyx channel on the Freenode network. In order to get there, you need
a IRC client such as the excellent text based client irssi (or mIRC for
windows).

http://freenode.net/
http://irssi.org/
http://www.mirc.com/

Next you need to connect to your local Freenode server - choose one from the
list:

http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml

Finally it is just a matter of connecting.

$ irssi irc.debian.org 

and when connection is established:

/join #lyx

The channel may appear very quite, but try to look in between 20.00-22.00CET.

And in a quite period it is a good idea to check out the channel guidelines:

http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml



martin




On 10/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:
>
> > the lyx mailing list is busy as always, and it is delightful to see all
> > sorts of questions (also off topic ones) are answered and debated in a
> > friendly atmosphere.
> >
> > i was wondering if some of the lengthy threads would benefit from being
> > discussed on IRC - and i am wondering why there is only 7 nicks on
> > #lyx/freenode. of cause an IRC channel needs critical mass in order to
> > be a success - that is, a minimum of online people because it is not
> > fruitful talking to yourself.
>
> You don't happen to have an URI or something for this thing? (I don't use
> IRC very often... is 'freenode' the name of some kind of server and '#lyx'
> the name of the "channel" on that server?
>
> /Christian
>
> --
> Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
>
>
>

Re: #lyx on freenode?

[chr]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:

> ok - here goes (minded for the wiki):

Thanks, you read my mind :-)

I made some minor changes (and hopefully no blunders :-) and placed it
here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/IRC

/C

> 
> 
> Questions, answers, and debate in a friendly atmosphere takes place on IRC
> at the #lyx channel on the Freenode network. In order to get there, you need
> a IRC client such as the excellent text based client irssi (or mIRC for
> windows).
> 
> http://freenode.net/
> http://irssi.org/
> http://www.mirc.com/
> 
> Next you need to connect to your local Freenode server - choose one from the
> list:
> 
> http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml
> 
> Finally it is just a matter of connecting.
> 
> $ irssi irc.debian.org 
> 
> and when connection is established:
> 
> /join #lyx
> 
> The channel may appear very quite, but try to look in between 20.00-22.00CET.
> 
> And in a quite period it is a good idea to check out the channel guidelines:
> 
> http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml
> 
> 
> 
> martin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:
> >
> > > the lyx mailing list is busy as always, and it is delightful to see all
> > > sorts of questions (also off topic ones) are answered and debated in a
> > > friendly atmosphere.
> > >
> > > i was wondering if some of the lengthy threads would benefit from being
> > > discussed on IRC - and i am wondering why there is only 7 nicks on
> > > #lyx/freenode. of cause an IRC channel needs critical mass in order to
> > > be a success - that is, a minimum of online people because it is not
> > > fruitful talking to yourself.
> >
> > You don't happen to have an URI or something for this thing? (I don't use
> > IRC very often... is 'freenode' the name of some kind of server and '#lyx'
> > the name of the "channel" on that server?
> >
> > /Christian
> >
> > --
> > Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
> >
> >
> >
> 

-- 
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Re: Latin Modern in Dropped Capitals

[Jim Osborn]

On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at  8:30:59AM -0500, William F. Adams wrote:
> My guess here is that lmr and lmr10 are getting used in an
> unsupported encoding. 

Examining my TEXMF tree, I find in .../fonts/tfm/public/lm/:
  cork-lm*.tfm
  qx-lm*.tfm
  texnansi-lm*.tfm
  ts1-lm*.tfm
where "*" represents the full suite of b,bx.r,ri,ro,ss,tt,etc.,
in sizes 5,6.7,8,9,10,12 and 17.  I think, as a bit of a novice,
that cork, qx, etc. are various encodings, and that cork is a
TeX standard thing that I'd expect to be supported.


> ptmr == the knock-off of Times bundled w/ GhostScript
> yfrak == nifty fraktur font (you should be able to install this...

Both ptmr and yfrak "just work" out of the box after the unadorned
teTeX installation (they come as part of teTeX-3, as does lm).  I
should mention that I removed all traces of the teTeX-1.0 installation
prior to installing teTeX-3, and configured the new one to include
everything except the cjk portion.


> >The TFM files seemed to get built automatically as needed for the
> >ec fonts, so I'd think the same would happen for the lm family,
> >but so far, they're not. 
> ...
> I think if you set it up so that the font is called out in a
> supported encoding you'll be fine. Don't use lmr10 though, if
> you're not setting a 10pt. dropped capital, instead pick a larger
> optical size so it'll look nicer. 

Yeah, I realized after I sent my prior note (and examining the
lmodern.sty file) that "lmr" is the name to use. 

Any suggestions how to "set it up so that the font is called out in a
supported encoding"?  I tried referring to the font as "cork-lmr" but
that gives the same LaTeX error:
   Font \BIG=cork-lmr not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found.
\bigdrop{0em}{\droplines}{\dropfont}{T}
(after \newcommand{\dropfont}{cork-lmr} in the preamble)

The fact that the teTeX installation set up the other fonts, like yfrak,
so that they're usable makes me think the problem is something simple.
When I tested the yfrak font in preparation for this note, I noticed
the View->DVI process made a new entry in teTeX's VARTEXFONTS tree
(I hadn't used yfrak since the teTeX-3 install); no action occurs there
with the Latin Modern fonts.

If I knew what's different, from TeX's (or LyX's) point of view,
between "ptmr/yfrak/ecrm1000/cmr10" and "lmr", I'd know what direction
to charge off in.  As I said, my novice status opens up lots of alleys
to explore, many of which, though interesting and edifying, don't
solve the problem at hand. :)

Thanks for the response,

Jim

Re: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are "false " so no output. Any suggestions?

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: "John Kane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:43 AM
Subject: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are "false " so 
no output. Any suggestions?




I have just tried to install LyX 1.3.6 under Windows
XP.  I like what I have seen but I have a problem. As
the heading says: I cannot produce any output because
LyX has marked all the layouts apparently as not
existing.



Sometimes/importantly the prior installation of configuration data
is not erased, so a fresh install requires this. Drag this to the recycle
bin: C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\LyX
Sometimes you have to unhide folders like \Application data

It is a good idea to use Control Panel --> Add/Remove programs
and start anew. This is what I have for the right Minsys .exe

Directory of C:\msys

11/10/2005  11:06 AM  .
11/10/2005  11:06 AM  ..
08/14/2005  11:49 AM  1.0
07/31/2005  01:05 PM 2,808,061 MSYS-1.0.10.exe

I think you may have done a larger install because as I recall
renaming "make" is done as part of a bigger install, although
it may not hurt. Not correctly installing Minsys and Latex are
often the culprits for producing that textclass error, which I
think is also still produced if you use the Uwe installer rather
than the Angus installer (if you don't know about this option
then don't worrry about it). Other useful things to know about
are Edit --> Reconfigure , to refresh the LyX database and to
check Edit --> Preferences --> --> Paths --> Path Prefix , to
see that LyX has recognized your helper apps at the correct
directory path. I often have to add my Ps viewer (gswin32.exe)
so look at Paths and File Formats if some viewer doesn't work.

My Path --> Path Prefix looks like this (checkout msys entry)

C:\msys\1.0\bin;C:\Python24;C:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\Perl\bin;
C:\gs\gs8.13\bin;C:\ghostgum\gsview;C:\ImageMagick

I think your newer gs is unrelated to the error. If you want
spellchecking, download and install Aspell to C:\Aspell
and get the dictionary of your language also, as mentioned
in http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136 install instructions.

I've installed this on different computers with win xp and with
different versions of latex successfully and without a problem
but for adding a viewer app to the Path prefix occasionally.

So it will work,
Stephen 

Re: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are "false " so no output. Any suggestions?

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "John Kane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are "false " 
so no output. Any suggestions?





- Original Message - 
From: "John Kane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:43 AM
Subject: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are "false " 
so no output. Any suggestions?




I have just tried to install LyX 1.3.6 under Windows
XP.  I like what I have seen but I have a problem. As
the heading says: I cannot produce any output because
LyX has marked all the layouts apparently as not
existing.


I think you may have done a larger install because as I recall
renaming "make" is done as part of a bigger install, although
it may not hurt. Not correctly installing Minsys and Latex are
often the culprits for producing that textclass error, which I
think is also still produced if you use the Uwe installer rather
than the Angus installer (if you don't know about this option
then don't worrry about it).


I actually meant Tex Information rather than "textclass error"
which I think provides some measure for a new user, of a
working intall of the Lyx system, when I mentioned installers.
under View-->TeX Information, displays various Latex classes

Regards,
Stephen

Re: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are "false " so no output. Any suggestions?

[John Kane]

--- Stephen Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "John Kane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:43 AM
> Subject: Installation Problem. All entries in
> Textclass.lst are "false " so 
> no output. Any suggestions?
> 
> 
> >I have just tried to install LyX 1.3.6 under
> Windows
> > XP.  I like what I have seen but I have a problem.
> As
> > the heading says: I cannot produce any output
> because
> > LyX has marked all the layouts apparently as not
> > existing.
> >
> 
> Sometimes/importantly the prior installation of
> configuration data
> is not erased, so a fresh install requires this.
> Drag this to the recycle
> bin: C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application
> Data\LyX
> Sometimes you have to unhide folders like
> \Application data
> 
> It is a good idea to use Control Panel -->
> Add/Remove programs
> and start anew. This is what I have for the right
> Minsys .exe
> 
> Directory of C:\msys
> 
> 11/10/2005  11:06 AM  .
> 11/10/2005  11:06 AM  ..
> 08/14/2005  11:49 AM  1.0
> 07/31/2005  01:05 PM 2,808,061
> MSYS-1.0.10.exe
> 
> I think you may have done a larger install because
> as I recall
> renaming "make" is done as part of a bigger install,
> although
> it may not hurt. Not correctly installing Minsys and
> Latex are
> often the culprits for producing that textclass
> error, which I
> think is also still produced if you use the Uwe
> installer rather
> than the Angus installer (if you don't know about
> this option
> then don't worrry about it). Other useful things to
> know about
> are Edit --> Reconfigure , to refresh the LyX
> database and to
> check Edit --> Preferences --> --> Paths --> Path
> Prefix , to
> see that LyX has recognized your helper apps at the
> correct
> directory path. I often have to add my Ps viewer
> (gswin32.exe)
> so look at Paths and File Formats if some viewer
> doesn't work.
> 
> My Path --> Path Prefix looks like this (checkout
> msys entry)
> 
>
C:\msys\1.0\bin;C:\Python24;C:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\Perl\bin;
> C:\gs\gs8.13\bin;C:\ghostgum\gsview;C:\ImageMagick
> 
> I think your newer gs is unrelated to the error. If
> you want
> spellchecking, download and install Aspell to
> C:\Aspell
> and get the dictionary of your language also, as
> mentioned
> in http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136 install
> instructions.
> 
> I've installed this on different computers with win
> xp and with
> different versions of latex successfully and without
> a problem
> but for adding a viewer app to the Path prefix
> occasionally.
> 
> So it will work,
> Stephen 
> 
> 
> 







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Re: Installation Problem. All entries in Textclass.lst are "false " so no output. Any suggestions?

[John Kane]

--- Stephen Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "John Kane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:43 AM
> Subject: Installation Problem. All entries in
> Textclass.lst are "false " so 
> no output. Any suggestions?
> 
> 
> >I have just tried to install LyX 1.3.6 under
> Windows
> > XP.  I like what I have seen but I have a problem.
> As
> > the heading says: I cannot produce any output
> because
> > LyX has marked all the layouts apparently as not
> > existing.
> >
> 
> Sometimes/importantly the prior installation of
> configuration data
> is not erased, so a fresh install requires this.
> Drag this to the recycle
> bin: C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application
> Data\LyX
> Sometimes you have to unhide folders like
> \Application data
> 
> It is a good idea to use Control Panel -->
> Add/Remove programs
> and start anew. This is what I have for the right
> Minsys .exe
> 
> Directory of C:\msys
> 
> 11/10/2005  11:06 AM  .
> 11/10/2005  11:06 AM  ..
> 08/14/2005  11:49 AM  1.0
> 07/31/2005  01:05 PM 2,808,061
> MSYS-1.0.10.exe

Whereas mine looks like
10/11/2005  04:04 PM   .
10/11/2005  07:30 AM   ..
10/11/2005  04:04 PM   1.0
   0 File(s)   O bytes
   3 Dir(s)  28,478,042,122 bytes free

Mine has no sign of an exe file  so it looks like I
may have found the culprit.

Given that it takes about 40 minutes to load Miktex I
left it installed and got rid of everytiong else but I
have the same result.  Again I was using msys1.1.10 (
but I did not rename make.exe -> mingw.32-make.exe)



> I think you may have done a larger install because
> as I recall
> renaming "make" is done as part of a bigger install,
> although
> it may not hurt. Not correctly installing Minsys and
> Latex are
> often the culprits for producing that textclass
> error, which I
> think is also still produced if you use the Uwe
> installer rather
> than the Angus installer (if you don't know about
> this option
> then don't worrry about it). Other useful things to
> know about
> are Edit --> Reconfigure , to refresh the LyX
> database and to
> check Edit --> Preferences --> --> Paths --> Path
> Prefix , to
> see that LyX has recognized your helper apps at the
> correct
> directory path. I often have to add my Ps viewer
> (gswin32.exe)
> so look at Paths and File Formats if some viewer
> doesn't work.
> 
> My Path --> Path Prefix looks like this (checkout
> msys entry)
> 
>
C:\msys\1.0\bin;C:\Python24;C:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\Perl\bin;
> C:\gs\gs8.13\bin;C:\ghostgum\gsview;C:\ImageMagick

My Path __> 
C:\msys\1.0\bin;C:\Python23;C:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\Perl\bin;C:\Program
Files\gs\gs8.53\bin;C:\Program
Files\ImageMagick-6.2.5-Q16
> 
> I think your newer gs is unrelated to the error. 

I have noticed that there is nothing under the TeX
Information.  That is  LaTex Classes, LaTex styles and
BibTex styles list are all empty


I notice that my Python is older.

> So it will work,
> Stephen 
 Of course it will :)









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