Re: need suggestion on book
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.comwrote: I couldn't have said it better myself. And because of what Marcelo said, I find LyX is a MUCH faster authoring environment than anything in which I need to see markup. As much as I agree with this, the one drawback of LyX is that you have to put up with its bugs... That is true of *every* piece of software. I'm sure that Knuth would say there are still bugs in TeX; not many since it's at version 3.14159... but there are some. And when it finally comes time to bump the version number to PI there will still be bugs in it. His old colleague Edsger Dijkstra said you can't test for the absence of bugs only their presence. The big advantage of using LaTeX is its reliability: as long as you know exactly what you do, you only need a robust text editor (or another, or yet another one) to do the job. Yup, by choice I'd use emacs (because I prefer to markup my client's document using DOcBook and LyX's support for that is not robust or general enough). LyX on the other hand can throw surprises from time to time. This said, LyX is generally rock-solid. See above; emacs is usually rock solid but even that throws surprises. Hey Adobe is finding and fixing day zero bugs in Acrobat and Flash. Regards, Trevor. Re: deemed!
Re: Re: Indent picture (only)
Dirk Heine dirk at common-future.org writes: Dear list,I would like to move a picture horizontally to place it more leftwards (towards the page edge). While moving this picture I would like to leave the text of the document unchanged and also not move the picture vertically. So this would basically be to negatively indent one picture; i.e. to just push it a bit to the left. Is the picture in a float? If so, is it a wrap float (i.e., does text flow around the right side of the picture)? Do you want the left edge of the picture even with the left text margin, just inside the margin, or outside margin (i.e., picture intrudes into left margin)? Paul -- Dear Paul, Thanks for your reply. The picture is not a wrap float; it is a logo in a letter (g-brief-2) and positioned above the text. The picture's boundary is currently too far to the right and I would like to push it a bit leftwards (yes, somewhat intruding into the left margin). I would be grateful for advice how this is possible. Many thanks, Dirk
Footnotes... across the chapters
Is it possible for Lyx to offer footnote numbering across the chapters? I mean, if there are 17 footnotes in Chapter 1, the first footnote in Chapter 2 should be #18, and not #1. Many thanks for any help you could offer. FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org
Re: Can't convert
Yes, you do have separate user directories (which is good). The configuration logs in the user directories look fine. Both of them found MiKTeX. In particular, the 2.0 log shows that it has the correct converter path for producing PDF output, so View PDF (pdflatex) should be working in 2.0. In each version of LyX, what do you see in the Converter and Extra flag fields when you go to Tools Preferences... File Handling Converters and highlight LaTeX (pdflatex) - PDF (pdflatex)? What do you see when you highlight LaTeX (plain) - DVI? Paul On 06/25/2011 07:40 PM, William Hanson wrote: The configuration logs that I previously posted were in C:\Program Files\LyX16\Resources and C:\Program Files\LyX20\Resources. I found them via a Windows Explorer search. They were the only hits for configure.log. Now, following your suggestion, I looked in C:\Documents and Settings\my login id\Application Data\lyx16 and in C:\Documents and Settings\my login id\Application Data\LyX2.0. There I found the two configure.log files from the reconfigurations I did yesterday and the day before. Why the Explorer search didn't find them I don't know. (I'm attaching these two logs.) In view of the various paths mentioned in the previous paragraph it seems that I do have two separate user directories, right? I can't View or DVI the help files in either 1.6.7 or 2.0.0 Bill
Re: need suggestion on book
On Saturday 25 June 2011 22:09:36 Liviu Andronic wrote: On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Saturday 25 June 2011 19:17:18 Marcelo Acuña wrote: 2. Yes, I remember this is a lyx list, but ... are there any advantages or writing this book in plain latex instead of lyx? If you work in plain latex, while you write it, you get a text pestered with commands. That makes difficult the work to write up and to correct the text. Marcelo I couldn't have said it better myself. And because of what Marcelo said, I find LyX is a MUCH faster authoring environment than anything in which I need to see markup. As much as I agree with this, the one drawback of LyX is that you have to put up with its bugs. The big advantage of using LaTeX is its reliability: as long as you know exactly what you do, you only need a robust text editor (or another, or yet another one) to do the job. LyX on the other hand can throw surprises from time to time. Hi Liviu, Yes, LaTeX reliability is indeed a pro-LaTeX factor. Another pro-LaTeX factor is simplicity. Not simplicity from the typist's viewpoint -- LyX is simpler from that point of view. But when you start doing complex stuff and making your own commands and environments, LyX is more complex. Plus LyX native format is different from LaTeX, and you need to use both. For all these reasons, when I create a Beamer presentation, I use LaTeX with Vim rather than LyX. I find the former less complex. SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: Can't convert
On 06/26/2011 10:41 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote: Yes, you do have separate user directories (which is good). The configuration logs in the user directories look fine. Both of them found MiKTeX. In particular, the 2.0 log shows that it has the correct converter path for producing PDF output, so View PDF (pdflatex) should be working in 2.0. None of the class or package files are checked for, because we have this: INFO: checking for a Latex2e program... INFO: +checking for latex... yes INFO: checking for a DVI postprocessing program... INFO: +checking for pplatex... yes INFO: checking for pLaTeX, the Japanese LaTeX... INFO: +checking for platex... yes DEBUG: Removing file chklatex.ltx DEBUG: Failed to remove file chklatex.log DEBUG: Add to RC: \converter latex dvi2 pplatexlatex \converter dvi2 dvipython -tt $$s/scripts/clean_dvi.py $$i $$o WARNING: Latex not usable (not LaTeX2e) DEBUG: Removing file chklatex.ltx DEBUG: Failed to remove file chklatex.log at the beginning. So chkconfig.ltx never gets run, I'd assume. But I do not know why that would be, since latex itself has been found. The fact that chklatex.log is not even created (and so can't be removed) is very strange. Though chklatex.ltx does seem to have been created. Paul, could you help William (temporarily) change these lines in configure.py: # run latex on chklatex.ltx and check result if cmdOutput(LATEX + ' chklatex.ltx').find('ThisIsLaTeX2e') != -1: # valid latex2e return LATEX else: logger.warning(Latex not usable (not LaTeX2e) ) # remove temporary files to: output = cmdOutput((LATEX + ' chklatex.ltx') logger.warning(output) if output.find('ThisIsLaTeX2e') != -1: # valid latex2e return LATEX else: logger.warning(Latex not usable (not LaTeX2e) ) # remove temporary files I'd really like to see what we're getting back from latex. rh Richard
Re: Footnotes... across the chapters
On 06/26/2011 07:43 AM, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا wrote: Is it possible for Lyx to offer footnote numbering across the chapters? I mean, if there are 17 footnotes in Chapter 1, the first footnote in Chapter 2 should be #18, and not #1. There is a LaTeX package called remreset that allows you to do this kind of thing. Once you have it installed, you can put this in your preamble: \@removefromreset{footnote}{chapter} rh
Re: need suggestion on book
* Marcelo Acu?a mv...@yahoo.com.ar [110626 09:18]: 2. Yes, I remember this is a lyx list, but ... are there any advantages or writing this book in plain latex instead of lyx? If you work in plain latex, while you write it, you get a text pestered with commands. That makes difficult the work to write up and to correct the text. Thanks all for the mails and rightly said. I have almost decided to go ahead using tufte book class, since one of the members of the list highly recommened it. The book might have maximum of 100 pages, so do I write it as one document only or have one main and other child documents. I am interested in which font do I use, because usually lyx fonts are somewhat pale. Shantanu --
Re: Font Problem with Lyx - Metric (TFM) file not found
same problem with lyx 2.0.0 under ubuntu 11.04 64bit but THE SAME document is working under WinXP32bitSP3 only the (pre)view using xetex is working without error, but all greek letters and italic are then missing. under windows everything is working (except correct linebreaks at inline-formulas at description style. but thats another story. regards, - elmar - -- View this message in context: http://lyx.475766.n2.nabble.com/Font-Problem-with-Lyx-Metric-TFM-file-not-found-tp1675343p6518091.html Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: need suggestion on book
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote: I am interested in which font do I use, because usually lyx fonts are somewhat pale. On my setup, Century Schoolbook is the least pale font. I use Century Schoolbook on all my books, although I'm looking for a more screen- readable font for my pure eBooks. Some recent work has suggested that readable fonts are not that useful. Try listening to this segment of the BBC's premier morning news programme, the Today Programme. http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_936/9360166.stm Or there's a printed report on the Telegraph's web site http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/amazon/8256899/E-readers-too-easy-to-read.html Alternatively you can read comments from a neuroscientist about the research on the blogs reachable from here https://policypress.wordpress.com/tag/jonah-lehrer/ Or there's a pre-print of the original paper that started this series of news reports to be had here http://web.princeton.edu/sites/opplab/papers/Diemand-Yauman_Oppenheimer_2010.pdf Regards, Trevor. Re: deemed!
Re: Can't convert
Richard, Paul In response to Paul's latest message: 1. No, I can't produce pdf output in LyX 2.0. 2. In each version of LyX, what do you see in the Converter and Extra flag fields when you go to Tools Preferences... File Handling Converters and highlight LaTeX (pdflatex) - PDF (pdflatex)? In 1.6.7 I see pdflatex $$i in Converter and latex in Extra Flag. In 2.0.0 I see pdflatex $$i in Converter and latex=pdflatex in Extra Flag. 3. What do you see when you highlight LaTeX (plain) - DVI? (I assume Paul means LaTeX (plain) - DraftDVI.) In 1.6.7 I see pplatex in Converter and latex in Extra Flag. In 2.0.0 I see pplatex in Converter and latex in Extra Flag. Bill Hanson On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote: On 06/26/2011 10:41 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote: Yes, you do have separate user directories (which is good). The configuration logs in the user directories look fine. Both of them found MiKTeX. In particular, the 2.0 log shows that it has the correct converter path for producing PDF output, so View PDF (pdflatex) should be working in 2.0. None of the class or package files are checked for, because we have this: INFO: checking for a Latex2e program... INFO: +checking for latex... yes INFO: checking for a DVI postprocessing program... INFO: +checking for pplatex... yes INFO: checking for pLaTeX, the Japanese LaTeX... INFO: +checking for platex... yes DEBUG: Removing file chklatex.ltx DEBUG: Failed to remove file chklatex.log DEBUG: Add to RC: \converter latex dvi2 pplatexlatex \converter dvi2 dvipython -tt $$s/scripts/clean_dvi.py $$i $$o WARNING: Latex not usable (not LaTeX2e) DEBUG: Removing file chklatex.ltx DEBUG: Failed to remove file chklatex.log at the beginning. So chkconfig.ltx never gets run, I'd assume. But I do not know why that would be, since latex itself has been found. The fact that chklatex.log is not even created (and so can't be removed) is very strange. Though chklatex.ltx does seem to have been created. Paul, could you help William (temporarily) change these lines in configure.py: # run latex on chklatex.ltx and check result if cmdOutput(LATEX + ' chklatex.ltx').find('ThisIsLaTeX2e') != -1: # valid latex2e return LATEX else: logger.warning(Latex not usable (not LaTeX2e) ) # remove temporary files to: output = cmdOutput((LATEX + ' chklatex.ltx') logger.warning(output) if output.find('ThisIsLaTeX2e') != -1: # valid latex2e return LATEX else: logger.warning(Latex not usable (not LaTeX2e) ) # remove temporary files I'd really like to see what we're getting back from latex. rh Richard
Re: need suggestion on book
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Shantanu N Kulkarni m...@lists.shantanukulkarni.org wrote: I am interested in which font do I use, because usually lyx fonts are somewhat pale. In many cases the fonts pre-selected by default are indeed ghastly. Personally I tend to stick to Palatino Optima (URW Classico) or Libertine Biolinum (when using XeTeX). I'm not sure if they fit your perceptions of pale. Regards Liviu
Re: need suggestion on book
On Sunday 26 June 2011 17:38:12 Trevor Jenkins wrote: On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote: I am interested in which font do I use, because usually lyx fonts are somewhat pale. On my setup, Century Schoolbook is the least pale font. I use Century Schoolbook on all my books, although I'm looking for a more screen- readable font for my pure eBooks. Some recent work has suggested that readable fonts are not that useful. Try listening to this segment of the BBC's premier morning news programme, the Today Programme. http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_936/9360166.stm Or there's a printed report on the Telegraph's web site http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/amazon/8256899/E-readers-too- easy-to-read.html Alternatively you can read comments from a neuroscientist about the research on the blogs reachable from here https://policypress.wordpress.com/tag/jonah-lehrer/ Or there's a pre-print of the original paper that started this series of news reports to be had here http://web.princeton.edu/sites/opplab/papers/Diemand-Yauman_Oppenhe imer_2010.pdf :-) Statistics are a funny thing. If my readers were all between 18 and 40, paid to read and remember, and need only read for 90 seconds at a time, I'd indeed use a less readable font. But the two studies you quote have little to do with my readers. My readers tend to skew 30-60, so a lot of them have very real visual problems. I'm not going to subject them to skinny little Times Roman or Paladino. My latest book, which I hope to offer for sale around midnight tonight, is 110,000 words. I'm not going to make the visually challenged pull out a software magnifying glass, or horizontal scroll every line for 110,000 words. That's just not the way I roll. Disfluent fonts will simply cause many of my readers to stop in the middle of an otherwise good book. One of the quoted studies showed a 14% increase in retention with disfluent fonts. Fine -- I'll use fluent fonts and write 30% more interestingly. That way people of all visual acuities will benefit. SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: Indent picture (only)
Dirk Heine dirk at common-future.org writes: Thanks for your reply. The picture is not a wrap float; it is a logo in a letter (g-brief-2) and positioned above the text. The picture's boundary is currently too far to the right and I would like to push it a bit leftwards (yes, somewhat intruding into the left margin). I would be grateful for advice how this is possible. You can position the cursor just left of the picture, click Insert Formatting Horizontal Space..., set the Spacing field to Custom, set the units drop-down to whatever units you favor, and insert a negative number in the Value field; then click Ok. Paul
Re: need suggestion on book
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.comwrote: I couldn't have said it better myself. And because of what Marcelo said, I find LyX is a MUCH faster authoring environment than anything in which I need to see markup. As much as I agree with this, the one drawback of LyX is that you have to put up with its bugs... That is true of *every* piece of software. I'm sure that Knuth would say there are still bugs in TeX; not many since it's at version 3.14159... but there are some. And when it finally comes time to bump the version number to PI there will still be bugs in it. His old colleague Edsger Dijkstra said you can't test for the absence of bugs only their presence. The big advantage of using LaTeX is its reliability: as long as you know exactly what you do, you only need a robust text editor (or another, or yet another one) to do the job. Yup, by choice I'd use emacs (because I prefer to markup my client's document using DOcBook and LyX's support for that is not robust or general enough). LyX on the other hand can throw surprises from time to time. This said, LyX is generally rock-solid. See above; emacs is usually rock solid but even that throws surprises. Hey Adobe is finding and fixing day zero bugs in Acrobat and Flash. Regards, Trevor. Re: deemed!
Re: Re: Indent picture (only)
Dirk Heine dirk at common-future.org writes: Dear list,I would like to move a picture horizontally to place it more leftwards (towards the page edge). While moving this picture I would like to leave the text of the document unchanged and also not move the picture vertically. So this would basically be to negatively indent one picture; i.e. to just push it a bit to the left. Is the picture in a float? If so, is it a wrap float (i.e., does text flow around the right side of the picture)? Do you want the left edge of the picture even with the left text margin, just inside the margin, or outside margin (i.e., picture intrudes into left margin)? Paul -- Dear Paul, Thanks for your reply. The picture is not a wrap float; it is a logo in a letter (g-brief-2) and positioned above the text. The picture's boundary is currently too far to the right and I would like to push it a bit leftwards (yes, somewhat intruding into the left margin). I would be grateful for advice how this is possible. Many thanks, Dirk
Footnotes... across the chapters
Is it possible for Lyx to offer footnote numbering across the chapters? I mean, if there are 17 footnotes in Chapter 1, the first footnote in Chapter 2 should be #18, and not #1. Many thanks for any help you could offer. FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org
Re: Can't convert
Yes, you do have separate user directories (which is good). The configuration logs in the user directories look fine. Both of them found MiKTeX. In particular, the 2.0 log shows that it has the correct converter path for producing PDF output, so View PDF (pdflatex) should be working in 2.0. In each version of LyX, what do you see in the Converter and Extra flag fields when you go to Tools Preferences... File Handling Converters and highlight LaTeX (pdflatex) - PDF (pdflatex)? What do you see when you highlight LaTeX (plain) - DVI? Paul On 06/25/2011 07:40 PM, William Hanson wrote: The configuration logs that I previously posted were in C:\Program Files\LyX16\Resources and C:\Program Files\LyX20\Resources. I found them via a Windows Explorer search. They were the only hits for configure.log. Now, following your suggestion, I looked in C:\Documents and Settings\my login id\Application Data\lyx16 and in C:\Documents and Settings\my login id\Application Data\LyX2.0. There I found the two configure.log files from the reconfigurations I did yesterday and the day before. Why the Explorer search didn't find them I don't know. (I'm attaching these two logs.) In view of the various paths mentioned in the previous paragraph it seems that I do have two separate user directories, right? I can't View or DVI the help files in either 1.6.7 or 2.0.0 Bill
Re: need suggestion on book
On Saturday 25 June 2011 22:09:36 Liviu Andronic wrote: On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Saturday 25 June 2011 19:17:18 Marcelo Acuña wrote: 2. Yes, I remember this is a lyx list, but ... are there any advantages or writing this book in plain latex instead of lyx? If you work in plain latex, while you write it, you get a text pestered with commands. That makes difficult the work to write up and to correct the text. Marcelo I couldn't have said it better myself. And because of what Marcelo said, I find LyX is a MUCH faster authoring environment than anything in which I need to see markup. As much as I agree with this, the one drawback of LyX is that you have to put up with its bugs. The big advantage of using LaTeX is its reliability: as long as you know exactly what you do, you only need a robust text editor (or another, or yet another one) to do the job. LyX on the other hand can throw surprises from time to time. Hi Liviu, Yes, LaTeX reliability is indeed a pro-LaTeX factor. Another pro-LaTeX factor is simplicity. Not simplicity from the typist's viewpoint -- LyX is simpler from that point of view. But when you start doing complex stuff and making your own commands and environments, LyX is more complex. Plus LyX native format is different from LaTeX, and you need to use both. For all these reasons, when I create a Beamer presentation, I use LaTeX with Vim rather than LyX. I find the former less complex. SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: Can't convert
On 06/26/2011 10:41 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote: Yes, you do have separate user directories (which is good). The configuration logs in the user directories look fine. Both of them found MiKTeX. In particular, the 2.0 log shows that it has the correct converter path for producing PDF output, so View PDF (pdflatex) should be working in 2.0. None of the class or package files are checked for, because we have this: INFO: checking for a Latex2e program... INFO: +checking for latex... yes INFO: checking for a DVI postprocessing program... INFO: +checking for pplatex... yes INFO: checking for pLaTeX, the Japanese LaTeX... INFO: +checking for platex... yes DEBUG: Removing file chklatex.ltx DEBUG: Failed to remove file chklatex.log DEBUG: Add to RC: \converter latex dvi2 pplatexlatex \converter dvi2 dvipython -tt $$s/scripts/clean_dvi.py $$i $$o WARNING: Latex not usable (not LaTeX2e) DEBUG: Removing file chklatex.ltx DEBUG: Failed to remove file chklatex.log at the beginning. So chkconfig.ltx never gets run, I'd assume. But I do not know why that would be, since latex itself has been found. The fact that chklatex.log is not even created (and so can't be removed) is very strange. Though chklatex.ltx does seem to have been created. Paul, could you help William (temporarily) change these lines in configure.py: # run latex on chklatex.ltx and check result if cmdOutput(LATEX + ' chklatex.ltx').find('ThisIsLaTeX2e') != -1: # valid latex2e return LATEX else: logger.warning(Latex not usable (not LaTeX2e) ) # remove temporary files to: output = cmdOutput((LATEX + ' chklatex.ltx') logger.warning(output) if output.find('ThisIsLaTeX2e') != -1: # valid latex2e return LATEX else: logger.warning(Latex not usable (not LaTeX2e) ) # remove temporary files I'd really like to see what we're getting back from latex. rh Richard
Re: Footnotes... across the chapters
On 06/26/2011 07:43 AM, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا wrote: Is it possible for Lyx to offer footnote numbering across the chapters? I mean, if there are 17 footnotes in Chapter 1, the first footnote in Chapter 2 should be #18, and not #1. There is a LaTeX package called remreset that allows you to do this kind of thing. Once you have it installed, you can put this in your preamble: \@removefromreset{footnote}{chapter} rh
Re: need suggestion on book
* Marcelo Acu?a mv...@yahoo.com.ar [110626 09:18]: 2. Yes, I remember this is a lyx list, but ... are there any advantages or writing this book in plain latex instead of lyx? If you work in plain latex, while you write it, you get a text pestered with commands. That makes difficult the work to write up and to correct the text. Thanks all for the mails and rightly said. I have almost decided to go ahead using tufte book class, since one of the members of the list highly recommened it. The book might have maximum of 100 pages, so do I write it as one document only or have one main and other child documents. I am interested in which font do I use, because usually lyx fonts are somewhat pale. Shantanu --
Re: Font Problem with Lyx - Metric (TFM) file not found
same problem with lyx 2.0.0 under ubuntu 11.04 64bit but THE SAME document is working under WinXP32bitSP3 only the (pre)view using xetex is working without error, but all greek letters and italic are then missing. under windows everything is working (except correct linebreaks at inline-formulas at description style. but thats another story. regards, - elmar - -- View this message in context: http://lyx.475766.n2.nabble.com/Font-Problem-with-Lyx-Metric-TFM-file-not-found-tp1675343p6518091.html Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: need suggestion on book
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote: I am interested in which font do I use, because usually lyx fonts are somewhat pale. On my setup, Century Schoolbook is the least pale font. I use Century Schoolbook on all my books, although I'm looking for a more screen- readable font for my pure eBooks. Some recent work has suggested that readable fonts are not that useful. Try listening to this segment of the BBC's premier morning news programme, the Today Programme. http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_936/9360166.stm Or there's a printed report on the Telegraph's web site http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/amazon/8256899/E-readers-too-easy-to-read.html Alternatively you can read comments from a neuroscientist about the research on the blogs reachable from here https://policypress.wordpress.com/tag/jonah-lehrer/ Or there's a pre-print of the original paper that started this series of news reports to be had here http://web.princeton.edu/sites/opplab/papers/Diemand-Yauman_Oppenheimer_2010.pdf Regards, Trevor. Re: deemed!
Re: Can't convert
Richard, Paul In response to Paul's latest message: 1. No, I can't produce pdf output in LyX 2.0. 2. In each version of LyX, what do you see in the Converter and Extra flag fields when you go to Tools Preferences... File Handling Converters and highlight LaTeX (pdflatex) - PDF (pdflatex)? In 1.6.7 I see pdflatex $$i in Converter and latex in Extra Flag. In 2.0.0 I see pdflatex $$i in Converter and latex=pdflatex in Extra Flag. 3. What do you see when you highlight LaTeX (plain) - DVI? (I assume Paul means LaTeX (plain) - DraftDVI.) In 1.6.7 I see pplatex in Converter and latex in Extra Flag. In 2.0.0 I see pplatex in Converter and latex in Extra Flag. Bill Hanson On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote: On 06/26/2011 10:41 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote: Yes, you do have separate user directories (which is good). The configuration logs in the user directories look fine. Both of them found MiKTeX. In particular, the 2.0 log shows that it has the correct converter path for producing PDF output, so View PDF (pdflatex) should be working in 2.0. None of the class or package files are checked for, because we have this: INFO: checking for a Latex2e program... INFO: +checking for latex... yes INFO: checking for a DVI postprocessing program... INFO: +checking for pplatex... yes INFO: checking for pLaTeX, the Japanese LaTeX... INFO: +checking for platex... yes DEBUG: Removing file chklatex.ltx DEBUG: Failed to remove file chklatex.log DEBUG: Add to RC: \converter latex dvi2 pplatexlatex \converter dvi2 dvipython -tt $$s/scripts/clean_dvi.py $$i $$o WARNING: Latex not usable (not LaTeX2e) DEBUG: Removing file chklatex.ltx DEBUG: Failed to remove file chklatex.log at the beginning. So chkconfig.ltx never gets run, I'd assume. But I do not know why that would be, since latex itself has been found. The fact that chklatex.log is not even created (and so can't be removed) is very strange. Though chklatex.ltx does seem to have been created. Paul, could you help William (temporarily) change these lines in configure.py: # run latex on chklatex.ltx and check result if cmdOutput(LATEX + ' chklatex.ltx').find('ThisIsLaTeX2e') != -1: # valid latex2e return LATEX else: logger.warning(Latex not usable (not LaTeX2e) ) # remove temporary files to: output = cmdOutput((LATEX + ' chklatex.ltx') logger.warning(output) if output.find('ThisIsLaTeX2e') != -1: # valid latex2e return LATEX else: logger.warning(Latex not usable (not LaTeX2e) ) # remove temporary files I'd really like to see what we're getting back from latex. rh Richard
Re: need suggestion on book
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Shantanu N Kulkarni m...@lists.shantanukulkarni.org wrote: I am interested in which font do I use, because usually lyx fonts are somewhat pale. In many cases the fonts pre-selected by default are indeed ghastly. Personally I tend to stick to Palatino Optima (URW Classico) or Libertine Biolinum (when using XeTeX). I'm not sure if they fit your perceptions of pale. Regards Liviu
Re: need suggestion on book
On Sunday 26 June 2011 17:38:12 Trevor Jenkins wrote: On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote: I am interested in which font do I use, because usually lyx fonts are somewhat pale. On my setup, Century Schoolbook is the least pale font. I use Century Schoolbook on all my books, although I'm looking for a more screen- readable font for my pure eBooks. Some recent work has suggested that readable fonts are not that useful. Try listening to this segment of the BBC's premier morning news programme, the Today Programme. http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_936/9360166.stm Or there's a printed report on the Telegraph's web site http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/amazon/8256899/E-readers-too- easy-to-read.html Alternatively you can read comments from a neuroscientist about the research on the blogs reachable from here https://policypress.wordpress.com/tag/jonah-lehrer/ Or there's a pre-print of the original paper that started this series of news reports to be had here http://web.princeton.edu/sites/opplab/papers/Diemand-Yauman_Oppenhe imer_2010.pdf :-) Statistics are a funny thing. If my readers were all between 18 and 40, paid to read and remember, and need only read for 90 seconds at a time, I'd indeed use a less readable font. But the two studies you quote have little to do with my readers. My readers tend to skew 30-60, so a lot of them have very real visual problems. I'm not going to subject them to skinny little Times Roman or Paladino. My latest book, which I hope to offer for sale around midnight tonight, is 110,000 words. I'm not going to make the visually challenged pull out a software magnifying glass, or horizontal scroll every line for 110,000 words. That's just not the way I roll. Disfluent fonts will simply cause many of my readers to stop in the middle of an otherwise good book. One of the quoted studies showed a 14% increase in retention with disfluent fonts. Fine -- I'll use fluent fonts and write 30% more interestingly. That way people of all visual acuities will benefit. SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: Indent picture (only)
Dirk Heine dirk at common-future.org writes: Thanks for your reply. The picture is not a wrap float; it is a logo in a letter (g-brief-2) and positioned above the text. The picture's boundary is currently too far to the right and I would like to push it a bit leftwards (yes, somewhat intruding into the left margin). I would be grateful for advice how this is possible. You can position the cursor just left of the picture, click Insert Formatting Horizontal Space..., set the Spacing field to Custom, set the units drop-down to whatever units you favor, and insert a negative number in the Value field; then click Ok. Paul
Re: need suggestion on book
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Liviu Andronicwrote: > I couldn't have said it better myself. And because of what Marcelo > > said, I find LyX is a MUCH faster authoring environment than anything > > in which I need to see markup. > > > As much as I agree with this, the one drawback of LyX is that you have > to put up with its bugs... That is true of *every* piece of software. I'm sure that Knuth would say there are still bugs in TeX; not many since it's at version 3.14159... but there are some. And when it finally comes time to bump the version number to PI there will still be bugs in it. His old colleague Edsger Dijkstra said you can't test for the absence of bugs only their presence. > The big advantage of using LaTeX is its > reliability: as long as you know exactly what you do, you only need a > robust text editor (or another, or yet another one) to do the job. Yup, by choice I'd use emacs (because I prefer to markup my client's document using DOcBook and LyX's support for that is not robust or general enough). > LyX on the other hand can throw surprises from time to time. > > This said, LyX is generally rock-solid. See above; emacs is usually rock solid but even that throws surprises. Hey Adobe is finding and fixing day zero bugs in Acrobat and Flash. Regards, Trevor. <>< Re: deemed!
Re: Re: Indent picture (only)
Dirk Heine common-future.org> writes: > > Dear list,I would like to move a picture horizontally to place it more leftwards (towards the page edge). While moving this picture I would like to leave the text of the document unchanged and also not move the picture vertically. So this would basically be to negatively indent one picture; i.e. to just push it a bit to the left. Is the picture in a float? If so, is it a wrap float (i.e., does text flow around the right side of the picture)? Do you want the left edge of the picture even with the left text margin, just inside the margin, or outside margin (i.e., picture intrudes into left margin)? Paul -- Dear Paul, Thanks for your reply. The picture is not a wrap float; it is a logo in a letter (g-brief-2) and positioned above the text. The picture's boundary is currently too far to the right and I would like to push it a bit leftwards (yes, somewhat intruding into the left margin). I would be grateful for advice how this is possible. Many thanks, Dirk
Footnotes... across the chapters
Is it possible for Lyx to offer footnote numbering across the chapters? I mean, if there are 17 footnotes in Chapter 1, the first footnote in Chapter 2 should be #18, and not #1. Many thanks for any help you could offer. FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org
Re: Can't convert
Yes, you do have separate user directories (which is good). The configuration logs in the user directories look fine. Both of them found MiKTeX. In particular, the 2.0 log shows that it has the correct converter path for producing PDF output, so View > PDF (pdflatex) should be working in 2.0. In each version of LyX, what do you see in the "Converter" and "Extra flag" fields when you go to Tools > Preferences... > File Handling > Converters and highlight "LaTeX (pdflatex) -> PDF (pdflatex)"? What do you see when you highlight "LaTeX (plain) -> DVI"? Paul On 06/25/2011 07:40 PM, William Hanson wrote: The configuration logs that I previously posted were in C:\Program Files\LyX16\Resources and C:\Program Files\LyX20\Resources. I found them via a Windows Explorer search. They were the only hits for "configure.log". Now, following your suggestion, I looked in C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\lyx16 and in C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\LyX2.0. There I found the two configure.log files from the reconfigurations I did yesterday and the day before. Why the Explorer search didn't find them I don't know. (I'm attaching these two logs.) In view of the various paths mentioned in the previous paragraph it seems that I do have two separate user directories, right? I can't View or DVI the help files in either 1.6.7 or 2.0.0 Bill
Re: need suggestion on book
On Saturday 25 June 2011 22:09:36 Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Steve Littwrote: > > On Saturday 25 June 2011 19:17:18 Marcelo Acuña wrote: > >> > 2. Yes, I remember this is a lyx list, but ... are there > >> > any advantages or > >> > writing this book in plain latex instead of lyx? > >> > >> If you work in plain latex, while you write it, you get a text > >> pestered with commands. That makes difficult the work to write > >> up and to correct the text. > >> > >> Marcelo > > > > I couldn't have said it better myself. And because of what > > Marcelo said, I find LyX is a MUCH faster authoring environment > > than anything in which I need to see markup. > > As much as I agree with this, the one drawback of LyX is that you > have to put up with its bugs. The big advantage of using LaTeX is > its reliability: as long as you know exactly what you do, you only > need a robust text editor (or another, or yet another one) to do > the job. LyX on the other hand can throw surprises from time to > time. Hi Liviu, Yes, LaTeX reliability is indeed a pro-LaTeX factor. Another pro-LaTeX factor is simplicity. Not simplicity from the typist's viewpoint -- LyX is simpler from that point of view. But when you start doing complex stuff and making your own commands and environments, LyX is more complex. Plus LyX native format is different from LaTeX, and you need to use both. For all these reasons, when I create a Beamer presentation, I use LaTeX with Vim rather than LyX. I find the former less complex. SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: Can't convert
On 06/26/2011 10:41 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote: > Yes, you do have separate user directories (which is good). The > configuration logs in the user directories look fine. Both of them > found MiKTeX. In particular, the 2.0 log shows that it has the > correct converter path for producing PDF output, so View > PDF > (pdflatex) should be working in 2.0. > None of the class or package files are checked for, because we have this: INFO: checking for a Latex2e program... INFO: +checking for "latex"... yes INFO: checking for a DVI postprocessing program... INFO: +checking for "pplatex"... yes INFO: checking for pLaTeX, the Japanese LaTeX... INFO: +checking for "platex"... yes DEBUG: Removing file chklatex.ltx DEBUG: Failed to remove file chklatex.log DEBUG: Add to RC: \converter latex dvi2 "pplatex""latex" \converter dvi2 dvi"python -tt $$s/scripts/clean_dvi.py $$i $$o""" WARNING: Latex not usable (not LaTeX2e) DEBUG: Removing file chklatex.ltx DEBUG: Failed to remove file chklatex.log at the beginning. So chkconfig.ltx never gets run, I'd assume. But I do not know why that would be, since latex itself has been found. The fact that chklatex.log is not even created (and so can't be removed) is very strange. Though chklatex.ltx does seem to have been created. Paul, could you help William (temporarily) change these lines in configure.py: # run latex on chklatex.ltx and check result if cmdOutput(LATEX + ' chklatex.ltx').find('ThisIsLaTeX2e') != -1: # valid latex2e return LATEX else: logger.warning("Latex not usable (not LaTeX2e) ") # remove temporary files to: output = cmdOutput((LATEX + ' chklatex.ltx') logger.warning(output) if output.find('ThisIsLaTeX2e') != -1: # valid latex2e return LATEX else: logger.warning("Latex not usable (not LaTeX2e) ") # remove temporary files I'd really like to see what we're getting back from latex. rh Richard
Re: Footnotes... across the chapters
On 06/26/2011 07:43 AM, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا wrote: > Is it possible for Lyx to offer footnote numbering across the > chapters? I mean, if there are 17 footnotes in Chapter 1, the first > footnote in Chapter 2 should be #18, and not #1. > There is a LaTeX package called remreset that allows you to do this kind of thing. Once you have it installed, you can put this in your preamble: \@removefromreset{footnote}{chapter} rh
Re: need suggestion on book
* Marcelo Acu?a[110626 09:18]: > > 2. Yes, I remember this is a lyx list, but ... are there > > any advantages or > > writing this book in plain latex instead of lyx? > > If you work in plain latex, while you write it, you get a text pestered > with commands. That makes difficult the work to write up and to correct the > text. > Thanks all for the mails and rightly said. I have almost decided to go ahead using tufte book class, since one of the members of the list highly recommened it. The book might have maximum of 100 pages, so do I write it as one document only or have one main and other child documents. I am interested in which font do I use, because usually lyx fonts are somewhat "pale". Shantanu --
Re: Font Problem with Lyx - Metric (TFM) file not found
same problem with lyx 2.0.0 under ubuntu 11.04 64bit but THE SAME document is working under WinXP32bitSP3 only the (pre)view using xetex is working without error, but all greek letters and italic are then missing. under windows everything is working (except correct linebreaks at inline-formulas at "description" style. but thats another story. regards, - elmar - -- View this message in context: http://lyx.475766.n2.nabble.com/Font-Problem-with-Lyx-Metric-TFM-file-not-found-tp1675343p6518091.html Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: need suggestion on book
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Steve Littwrote: > > I am interested in which font do I use, because usually lyx fonts > > are somewhat "pale". > > On my setup, Century Schoolbook is the least pale font. I use Century > Schoolbook on all my books, although I'm looking for a more screen- > readable font for my pure eBooks. > Some recent work has suggested that "readable" fonts are not that useful. Try listening to this segment of the BBC's premier morning news programme, the Today Programme. http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_936/9360166.stm Or there's a printed report on the Telegraph's web site http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/amazon/8256899/E-readers-too-easy-to-read.html Alternatively you can read comments from a neuroscientist about the research on the blogs reachable from here https://policypress.wordpress.com/tag/jonah-lehrer/ Or there's a pre-print of the original paper that started this series of news reports to be had here http://web.princeton.edu/sites/opplab/papers/Diemand-Yauman_Oppenheimer_2010.pdf Regards, Trevor. <>< Re: deemed!
Re: Can't convert
Richard, Paul In response to Paul's latest message: 1. No, I can't produce pdf output in LyX 2.0. 2. "In each version of LyX, what do you see in the "Converter" and "Extra flag" fields when you go to Tools > Preferences... > File Handling > Converters and highlight "LaTeX (pdflatex) -> PDF (pdflatex)"?" In 1.6.7 I see "pdflatex $$i" in Converter and "latex" in Extra Flag. In 2.0.0 I see "pdflatex $$i" in Converter and "latex=pdflatex" in Extra Flag. 3. "What do you see when you highlight "LaTeX (plain) -> DVI"?" (I assume Paul means "LaTeX (plain) -> DraftDVI".) In 1.6.7 I see "pplatex" in Converter and "latex" in Extra Flag. In 2.0.0 I see "pplatex" in Converter and "latex" in Extra Flag. Bill Hanson On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Richard Heckwrote: > On 06/26/2011 10:41 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote: > > Yes, you do have separate user directories (which is good). The > > configuration logs in the user directories look fine. Both of them > > found MiKTeX. In particular, the 2.0 log shows that it has the > > correct converter path for producing PDF output, so View > PDF > > (pdflatex) should be working in 2.0. > > > None of the class or package files are checked for, because we have this: > > INFO: checking for a Latex2e program... > INFO: +checking for "latex"... yes > INFO: checking for a DVI postprocessing program... > INFO: +checking for "pplatex"... yes > INFO: checking for pLaTeX, the Japanese LaTeX... > INFO: +checking for "platex"... yes > DEBUG: Removing file chklatex.ltx > DEBUG: Failed to remove file chklatex.log > DEBUG: Add to RC: > \converter latex dvi2 "pplatex""latex" > \converter dvi2 dvi"python -tt $$s/scripts/clean_dvi.py > $$i $$o""" > > > WARNING: Latex not usable (not LaTeX2e) > DEBUG: Removing file chklatex.ltx > DEBUG: Failed to remove file chklatex.log > > at the beginning. So chkconfig.ltx never gets run, I'd assume. But I do > not know why that would be, since latex itself has been found. The fact > that chklatex.log is not even created (and so can't be removed) is very > strange. Though chklatex.ltx does seem to have been created. > > Paul, could you help William (temporarily) change these lines in > configure.py: > ># run latex on chklatex.ltx and check result >if cmdOutput(LATEX + ' chklatex.ltx').find('ThisIsLaTeX2e') != -1: ># valid latex2e >return LATEX >else: >logger.warning("Latex not usable (not LaTeX2e) ") ># remove temporary files > > to: > >output = cmdOutput((LATEX + ' chklatex.ltx') >logger.warning(output) >if output.find('ThisIsLaTeX2e') != -1: ># valid latex2e >return LATEX >else: >logger.warning("Latex not usable (not LaTeX2e) ") ># remove temporary files > > I'd really like to see what we're getting back from latex. > > rh > > > Richard > >
Re: need suggestion on book
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Shantanu N Kulkarniwrote: > I am interested in which font do I use, because usually lyx fonts > are somewhat "pale". > In many cases the fonts pre-selected by default are indeed ghastly. Personally I tend to stick to Palatino & Optima (URW Classico) or Libertine & Biolinum (when using XeTeX). I'm not sure if they fit your perceptions of pale. Regards Liviu
Re: need suggestion on book
On Sunday 26 June 2011 17:38:12 Trevor Jenkins wrote: > On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Steve Littwrote: > > > I am interested in which font do I use, because usually lyx > > > fonts are somewhat "pale". > > > > On my setup, Century Schoolbook is the least pale font. I use > > Century Schoolbook on all my books, although I'm looking for a > > more screen- readable font for my pure eBooks. > > Some recent work has suggested that "readable" fonts are not that > useful. Try listening to this segment of the BBC's premier morning > news programme, the Today Programme. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_936/9360166.stm > > Or there's a printed report on the Telegraph's web site > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/amazon/8256899/E-readers-too- > easy-to-read.html > > Alternatively you can read comments from a neuroscientist about the > research on the blogs reachable from here > > https://policypress.wordpress.com/tag/jonah-lehrer/ > > Or there's a pre-print of the original paper that started this > series of news reports to be had here > > http://web.princeton.edu/sites/opplab/papers/Diemand-Yauman_Oppenhe > imer_2010.pdf :-) Statistics are a funny thing. If my readers were all between 18 and 40, paid to read and remember, and need only read for 90 seconds at a time, I'd indeed use a less readable font. But the two studies you quote have little to do with my readers. My readers tend to skew 30-60, so a lot of them have very real visual problems. I'm not going to subject them to skinny little Times Roman or Paladino. My latest book, which I hope to offer for sale around midnight tonight, is 110,000 words. I'm not going to make the visually challenged pull out a software magnifying glass, or horizontal scroll every line for 110,000 words. That's just not the way I roll. Disfluent fonts will simply cause many of my readers to stop in the middle of an otherwise good book. One of the quoted studies showed a 14% increase in retention with disfluent fonts. Fine -- I'll use fluent fonts and write 30% more interestingly. That way people of all visual acuities will benefit. SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: Indent picture (only)
Dirk Heine common-future.org> writes: > Thanks for your reply. The picture is not a wrap float; it is a logo > in a letter (g-brief-2) and positioned above the text. The picture's > boundary is currently too far to the right and I would like to push it > a bit leftwards (yes, somewhat intruding into the left margin). I > would be grateful for advice how this is possible. You can position the cursor just left of the picture, click Insert > Formatting > Horizontal Space..., set the Spacing field to Custom, set the units drop-down to whatever units you favor, and insert a negative number in the Value field; then click Ok. Paul