Recursive Representation

[Jens-D. Doll]

Hello all,

having formatted my document, there ist still a feature I'm missing, whci  
could be named multi subscription. It means the usage of subscripted  
characters in a text, which is already subscripted. Neither the menu item  
nor the math box helped for this purpose up to now.


Can somebody tell me how to format sum(bk(x)), where the sum is the greek  
symbol and k should be a subsript.


Greetings,

Jens-D.Doll
Universität Hamburg
Fachgruppe TGI

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

That I do with LaTeX and Perl (such as pulling out VAT out of my
accounting package SQL-Ledger and printing it onto the scanned form :-)-O

el


On 2013-08-18 21:24 , Wolfgang Keller wrote:
[...]
 The only case where I still prefer to use LO over LyX is
 generation of documents from databases.
[...]

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

Maybe I am fortunate, in private practice and as such
independent, but I plain refuse to send someone a document
in Word format.  And I tell all people sending me Microsoft
documents that I don't use Microsoft products.

el

On 2013-08-19 00:02 , Chris Menzel wrote:
[...]
 Two of our best journals in philosophy -- journals that
 regularly publish rather technical papers -- require final
 versions of accepted papers be submitted in Word.
 Transcribing a fairly technical 30 page paper I'd written
 in LyX into Word for one of these journals was
 excruciating.
 

Re: 2.6.1beta0 and Beamer

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

I'll make a plan sometime this week.

el

On 2013-08-16 07:55 , Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
 I am actually rewriting it, because that is less work than tracing the
 issues manually :-)-O and because the new way is easier, anyway.
 
 Can you send me the problematic file in PM? I'd like to iron out such 
 problems, if possible.
 
 Jürgen
 

Re: Error in new beta lyx

[Aliabbas Petiwala]

I am getting bibtex entry errors.

Re: Help on LaTeX if statement

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-08-10, Steve Litt wrote:
 Hi all,

 I need your help. Could you please point me to the best web resources
 I'd need in order to understand LaTeX's if statement? 

The raw if statement is provided by TeX (not LaTeX) and therefore has a
different look and feel as well as philosophy and working.
Read about it in the excellent TEX BY TOPIC, A TEXNICIAN’S REFERENCE
from VICTOR EIJKHOUT. http://www.eijkhout.net/texbytopic/texbytopic.html

For a more LaTeX-like layer, have a look at the ifthenelse package
http://www.ctan.org/pkg/ifthen, well documented, try `texdoc ifthen`.

Günter

Re: Error in new beta lyx

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Aliabbas Petiwala wrote:
 I am getting bibtex entry errors.

Yes, these have not been caught in previous versions of LyX. You probably need 
to fix your bibtex database or style file. Please post the errors if you need 
help on this.

Jürgen

Re: formula numbering

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-08-08, bieniasz wrote:
 Richard Heck rgheck at lyx.org writes:

 What happens, then, when you add a new equation somewhere in
 the middle of the document?

 This is what LyX already does - it updates automatically the equation
 numbers. My point is why one cannot use these numbers for referencing
 the equations in the text, since they are already there, up-to-date.

But how do you find out the up-to-date number of the equation in chapter
3 you want to reference in chapter 14?

...

 LaTeX users are primarily
 scientists who write scientific texts. In such text one ALWAYS
 refers to equations by numbers, and not by any peculiar labels.

Reference by numbers is used in the printout, but reference by label is used
in all LaTeX source documents.

In the printed text, I usually use a description of the formula + the
reference number so that the reader can look it up if required but generally
does not need to: 

  The incident radiation is absorbed and distributes in the sensor layer
  by means of heat conduction (Equations [15] and [16]) resulting in a
  time-dependent temperature field T(\xyz,t).
 
 Still, making up a label isn't that hard, and it can make it easier
 to remeber which equation you want to reference later. You can
 of course just use numbers if you wish.

 Well, yes and no. If I use my own labels, like
 E1, E2, E3 etc., then I am in trouble when I need to add something
 between E1 and E2, let's say. The problem is that user-defined labels
 are not automatically updated, whereas the real equation numbers are.
 Hence, I have a mess in which labels are in no clear relation to
 the numbers.

But IMO, the even bigger problem is, if you insert a new formula between
E1 and E2 but continue to use E15 for new references to the heat
equation (or whatever) which is now E16!!!


 So, in conclusion, I daresay the LaTeX/LyX system for equation numbering
 needs a reasonable revision. If there are any LyX programmers out there,
 please do something about this!!!

I dare to say that the label/reference system is one of the main
advantages of LaTeX (and LyX) for scientific writing. It may be more
complicated to begin with but that effort pays as soon as you write more
than 10 equations in one paper, say.

Günter

Re: Embedded Formula

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-08-14, Paul Rubin wrote:
 Jens-D. Doll jens.doll at studium.uni-hamburg.de writes:

 when formatting my text I use embedded formula, but am not able to use  
 subscript/superscript within such a formula. Take for instance xi, make it  
 a formula and afterwards try to make the i a subscript. 

 Does the error occur if you do the following?

 1. Type 'xi' as text.
 2. Select both characters and type ctrl-M to make it a formula.
 3. Select just the 'i' and type the underscore character?

Alternatively:

 1. Type 'x_i' as text.
 2. Select the characters and type ctrl-M to make it a formula.

The same problem  
 occurs when making a text a formula afterwards: all subscripts go lost ...


I suppose this is a different problem, because in LaTeX, text sub/supscripts
are different from math sub/supscripts:

math:  x_i
text:  x\textsub{i}

LyX assumes the text to be converted to math with ^M to be LaTeX-math
source code (which is a common way to store mathematical content in 7-bit
ASCII format).

Günter

Re: Recursive Representation

[Richard Heck]

On 08/19/2013 03:07 AM, Jens-D. Doll wrote:


Hello all,

having formatted my document, there ist still a feature I'm missing, 
whci could be named multi subscription. It means the usage of 
subscripted characters in a text, which is already subscripted. 
Neither the menu item nor the math box helped for this purpose up to now.


Can somebody tell me how to format sum(bk(x)), where the sum is the 
greek symbol and k should be a subsript.


I'm not sure I understand you correctly. But it is easy to put 
subscripts on subscripts. I always type _ (the LaTeX equivalent) to 
get subscripts. So you can type: b_k_x, and you will have something of 
this sort.


If this is not what you want, you might post a LyX file that is as close 
as you can get, and then explain what isn't right.


Richard

Re: Help on LaTeX if statement

[Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com]

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 12:40:48 + (UTC)
Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net wrote:

 On 2013-08-10, Steve Litt wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I need your help. Could you please point me to the best web
  resources I'd need in order to understand LaTeX's if statement? 
 
 The raw if statement is provided by TeX (not LaTeX) and therefore
 has a different look and feel as well as philosophy and working.
 Read about it in the excellent TEX BY TOPIC, A TEXNICIAN’S REFERENCE
 from VICTOR EIJKHOUT.
 http://www.eijkhout.net/texbytopic/texbytopic.html
 
 For a more LaTeX-like layer, have a look at the ifthenelse package
 http://www.ctan.org/pkg/ifthen, well documented, try `texdoc ifthen`.
 
 Günter
 

Thanks Günter,

I decided to use TeX's ifx statement. It sux that there's no elsif, but
it's reasonably useable, and if you need complex logic you can do it
by flipping flags.

I just downloaded the book you suggested. Personally, I like TeX more
than LaTeX for much the same reasons I like C better than C++. So this
book will be very helpful for me. I already have a fairly good idea
*how to use* TeX, this book gives me the whys. Thanks for the great
suggestion.

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: Help on LaTeX if statement

[Richard Heck]

On 08/19/2013 12:03 PM, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 12:40:48 + (UTC)
Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net wrote:


On 2013-08-10, Steve Litt wrote:

Hi all,
I need your help. Could you please point me to the best web
resources I'd need in order to understand LaTeX's if statement?

The raw if statement is provided by TeX (not LaTeX) and therefore
has a different look and feel as well as philosophy and working.
Read about it in the excellent TEX BY TOPIC, A TEXNICIAN’S REFERENCE
from VICTOR EIJKHOUT.
http://www.eijkhout.net/texbytopic/texbytopic.html

For a more LaTeX-like layer, have a look at the ifthenelse package
http://www.ctan.org/pkg/ifthen, well documented, try `texdoc ifthen`.

Günter


Thanks Günter,

I decided to use TeX's ifx statement. It sux that there's no elsif, but
it's reasonably useable, and if you need complex logic you can do it
by flipping flags.


The ifthenelse package does deal with all these problems.

Rihcard

Re: Error in new beta lyx

[Aliabbas Petiwala]

Also I used Jabber to remove duplicate keys but what jabref does is
converts two identical keys to lowercase and uppercase to make them
different, but this does not eliminate errors so is lyx bibtex case
sensitive?


On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:

 Aliabbas Petiwala wrote:
  I am getting bibtex entry errors.

 Yes, these have not been caught in previous versions of LyX. You probably
 need
 to fix your bibtex database or style file. Please post the errors if you
 need
 help on this.

 Jürgen




-- 
*


Aliabbas Petiwala| Phd Scholar|Interdisciplinary Program in Education
Technology**|IIT *
**
**
*Bombay|+919664867707 | http://home.iitb.ac.in/~aliabbas/*

Re: [Formating?]

[Paul Rubin]

Ignacio Martinez ignacio82 at gmail.com writes:

 
 When I start a new paragraph after some LyX-Code text, that new
paragraph is not indented.
 Pleas help!!!

Insert a separator between the LyX code and the new paragraph.

Paul

Recursive Representation

[Jens-D. Doll]

Hello all,

having formatted my document, there ist still a feature I'm missing, whci  
could be named multi subscription. It means the usage of subscripted  
characters in a text, which is already subscripted. Neither the menu item  
nor the math box helped for this purpose up to now.


Can somebody tell me how to format sum(bk(x)), where the sum is the greek  
symbol and k should be a subsript.


Greetings,

Jens-D.Doll
Universität Hamburg
Fachgruppe TGI

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

That I do with LaTeX and Perl (such as pulling out VAT out of my
accounting package SQL-Ledger and printing it onto the scanned form :-)-O

el


On 2013-08-18 21:24 , Wolfgang Keller wrote:
[...]
 The only case where I still prefer to use LO over LyX is
 generation of documents from databases.
[...]

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

Maybe I am fortunate, in private practice and as such
independent, but I plain refuse to send someone a document
in Word format.  And I tell all people sending me Microsoft
documents that I don't use Microsoft products.

el

On 2013-08-19 00:02 , Chris Menzel wrote:
[...]
 Two of our best journals in philosophy -- journals that
 regularly publish rather technical papers -- require final
 versions of accepted papers be submitted in Word.
 Transcribing a fairly technical 30 page paper I'd written
 in LyX into Word for one of these journals was
 excruciating.
 

Re: 2.6.1beta0 and Beamer

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

I'll make a plan sometime this week.

el

On 2013-08-16 07:55 , Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
 I am actually rewriting it, because that is less work than tracing the
 issues manually :-)-O and because the new way is easier, anyway.
 
 Can you send me the problematic file in PM? I'd like to iron out such 
 problems, if possible.
 
 Jürgen
 

Re: Error in new beta lyx

[Aliabbas Petiwala]

I am getting bibtex entry errors.

Re: Help on LaTeX if statement

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-08-10, Steve Litt wrote:
 Hi all,

 I need your help. Could you please point me to the best web resources
 I'd need in order to understand LaTeX's if statement? 

The raw if statement is provided by TeX (not LaTeX) and therefore has a
different look and feel as well as philosophy and working.
Read about it in the excellent TEX BY TOPIC, A TEXNICIAN’S REFERENCE
from VICTOR EIJKHOUT. http://www.eijkhout.net/texbytopic/texbytopic.html

For a more LaTeX-like layer, have a look at the ifthenelse package
http://www.ctan.org/pkg/ifthen, well documented, try `texdoc ifthen`.

Günter

Re: Error in new beta lyx

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Aliabbas Petiwala wrote:
 I am getting bibtex entry errors.

Yes, these have not been caught in previous versions of LyX. You probably need 
to fix your bibtex database or style file. Please post the errors if you need 
help on this.

Jürgen

Re: formula numbering

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-08-08, bieniasz wrote:
 Richard Heck rgheck at lyx.org writes:

 What happens, then, when you add a new equation somewhere in
 the middle of the document?

 This is what LyX already does - it updates automatically the equation
 numbers. My point is why one cannot use these numbers for referencing
 the equations in the text, since they are already there, up-to-date.

But how do you find out the up-to-date number of the equation in chapter
3 you want to reference in chapter 14?

...

 LaTeX users are primarily
 scientists who write scientific texts. In such text one ALWAYS
 refers to equations by numbers, and not by any peculiar labels.

Reference by numbers is used in the printout, but reference by label is used
in all LaTeX source documents.

In the printed text, I usually use a description of the formula + the
reference number so that the reader can look it up if required but generally
does not need to: 

  The incident radiation is absorbed and distributes in the sensor layer
  by means of heat conduction (Equations [15] and [16]) resulting in a
  time-dependent temperature field T(\xyz,t).
 
 Still, making up a label isn't that hard, and it can make it easier
 to remeber which equation you want to reference later. You can
 of course just use numbers if you wish.

 Well, yes and no. If I use my own labels, like
 E1, E2, E3 etc., then I am in trouble when I need to add something
 between E1 and E2, let's say. The problem is that user-defined labels
 are not automatically updated, whereas the real equation numbers are.
 Hence, I have a mess in which labels are in no clear relation to
 the numbers.

But IMO, the even bigger problem is, if you insert a new formula between
E1 and E2 but continue to use E15 for new references to the heat
equation (or whatever) which is now E16!!!


 So, in conclusion, I daresay the LaTeX/LyX system for equation numbering
 needs a reasonable revision. If there are any LyX programmers out there,
 please do something about this!!!

I dare to say that the label/reference system is one of the main
advantages of LaTeX (and LyX) for scientific writing. It may be more
complicated to begin with but that effort pays as soon as you write more
than 10 equations in one paper, say.

Günter

Re: Embedded Formula

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-08-14, Paul Rubin wrote:
 Jens-D. Doll jens.doll at studium.uni-hamburg.de writes:

 when formatting my text I use embedded formula, but am not able to use  
 subscript/superscript within such a formula. Take for instance xi, make it  
 a formula and afterwards try to make the i a subscript. 

 Does the error occur if you do the following?

 1. Type 'xi' as text.
 2. Select both characters and type ctrl-M to make it a formula.
 3. Select just the 'i' and type the underscore character?

Alternatively:

 1. Type 'x_i' as text.
 2. Select the characters and type ctrl-M to make it a formula.

The same problem  
 occurs when making a text a formula afterwards: all subscripts go lost ...


I suppose this is a different problem, because in LaTeX, text sub/supscripts
are different from math sub/supscripts:

math:  x_i
text:  x\textsub{i}

LyX assumes the text to be converted to math with ^M to be LaTeX-math
source code (which is a common way to store mathematical content in 7-bit
ASCII format).

Günter

Re: Recursive Representation

[Richard Heck]

On 08/19/2013 03:07 AM, Jens-D. Doll wrote:


Hello all,

having formatted my document, there ist still a feature I'm missing, 
whci could be named multi subscription. It means the usage of 
subscripted characters in a text, which is already subscripted. 
Neither the menu item nor the math box helped for this purpose up to now.


Can somebody tell me how to format sum(bk(x)), where the sum is the 
greek symbol and k should be a subsript.


I'm not sure I understand you correctly. But it is easy to put 
subscripts on subscripts. I always type _ (the LaTeX equivalent) to 
get subscripts. So you can type: b_k_x, and you will have something of 
this sort.


If this is not what you want, you might post a LyX file that is as close 
as you can get, and then explain what isn't right.


Richard

Re: Help on LaTeX if statement

[Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com]

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 12:40:48 + (UTC)
Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net wrote:

 On 2013-08-10, Steve Litt wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I need your help. Could you please point me to the best web
  resources I'd need in order to understand LaTeX's if statement? 
 
 The raw if statement is provided by TeX (not LaTeX) and therefore
 has a different look and feel as well as philosophy and working.
 Read about it in the excellent TEX BY TOPIC, A TEXNICIAN’S REFERENCE
 from VICTOR EIJKHOUT.
 http://www.eijkhout.net/texbytopic/texbytopic.html
 
 For a more LaTeX-like layer, have a look at the ifthenelse package
 http://www.ctan.org/pkg/ifthen, well documented, try `texdoc ifthen`.
 
 Günter
 

Thanks Günter,

I decided to use TeX's ifx statement. It sux that there's no elsif, but
it's reasonably useable, and if you need complex logic you can do it
by flipping flags.

I just downloaded the book you suggested. Personally, I like TeX more
than LaTeX for much the same reasons I like C better than C++. So this
book will be very helpful for me. I already have a fairly good idea
*how to use* TeX, this book gives me the whys. Thanks for the great
suggestion.

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: Help on LaTeX if statement

[Richard Heck]

On 08/19/2013 12:03 PM, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 12:40:48 + (UTC)
Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net wrote:


On 2013-08-10, Steve Litt wrote:

Hi all,
I need your help. Could you please point me to the best web
resources I'd need in order to understand LaTeX's if statement?

The raw if statement is provided by TeX (not LaTeX) and therefore
has a different look and feel as well as philosophy and working.
Read about it in the excellent TEX BY TOPIC, A TEXNICIAN’S REFERENCE
from VICTOR EIJKHOUT.
http://www.eijkhout.net/texbytopic/texbytopic.html

For a more LaTeX-like layer, have a look at the ifthenelse package
http://www.ctan.org/pkg/ifthen, well documented, try `texdoc ifthen`.

Günter


Thanks Günter,

I decided to use TeX's ifx statement. It sux that there's no elsif, but
it's reasonably useable, and if you need complex logic you can do it
by flipping flags.


The ifthenelse package does deal with all these problems.

Rihcard

Re: Error in new beta lyx

[Aliabbas Petiwala]

Also I used Jabber to remove duplicate keys but what jabref does is
converts two identical keys to lowercase and uppercase to make them
different, but this does not eliminate errors so is lyx bibtex case
sensitive?


On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:

 Aliabbas Petiwala wrote:
  I am getting bibtex entry errors.

 Yes, these have not been caught in previous versions of LyX. You probably
 need
 to fix your bibtex database or style file. Please post the errors if you
 need
 help on this.

 Jürgen




-- 
*


Aliabbas Petiwala| Phd Scholar|Interdisciplinary Program in Education
Technology**|IIT *
**
**
*Bombay|+919664867707 | http://home.iitb.ac.in/~aliabbas/*

Re: [Formating?]

[Paul Rubin]

Ignacio Martinez ignacio82 at gmail.com writes:

 
 When I start a new paragraph after some LyX-Code text, that new
paragraph is not indented.
 Pleas help!!!

Insert a separator between the LyX code and the new paragraph.

Paul

Recursive Representation

[Jens-D. Doll]

Hello all,

having formatted my document, there ist still a feature I'm missing, whci  
could be named multi subscription. It means the usage of subscripted  
characters in a text, which is already subscripted. Neither the menu item  
nor the math box helped for this purpose up to now.


Can somebody tell me how to format sum(bk(x)), where the sum is the greek  
symbol and k should be a subsript.


Greetings,

Jens-D.Doll
Universität Hamburg
Fachgruppe TGI

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

That I do with LaTeX and Perl (such as pulling out VAT out of my
accounting package SQL-Ledger and printing it onto the scanned form :-)-O

el


On 2013-08-18 21:24 , Wolfgang Keller wrote:
[...]
> The only case where I still prefer to use LO over LyX is
> generation of documents from databases.
[...]

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

Maybe I am fortunate, in private practice and as such
independent, but I plain refuse to send someone a document
in Word format.  And I tell all people sending me Microsoft
documents that I don't use Microsoft products.

el

On 2013-08-19 00:02 , Chris Menzel wrote:
[...]
> Two of our best journals in philosophy -- journals that
> regularly publish rather technical papers -- require final
> versions of accepted papers be submitted in Word.
> Transcribing a fairly technical 30 page paper I'd written
> in LyX into Word for one of these journals was
> excruciating.
> 

Re: 2.6.1beta0 and Beamer

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

I'll make a plan sometime this week.

el

On 2013-08-16 07:55 , Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
>> I am actually rewriting it, because that is less work than tracing the
>> issues manually :-)-O and because the new way is easier, anyway.
> 
> Can you send me the problematic file in PM? I'd like to iron out such 
> problems, if possible.
> 
> Jürgen
> 

Re: Error in new beta lyx

[Aliabbas Petiwala]

I am getting bibtex entry errors.

Re: Help on LaTeX if statement

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-08-10, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,

> I need your help. Could you please point me to the best web resources
> I'd need in order to understand LaTeX's "if" statement? 

The "raw" if statement is provided by TeX (not LaTeX) and therefore has a
different "look and feel" as well as philosophy and working.
Read about it in the excellent "TEX BY TOPIC, A TEXNICIAN’S REFERENCE"
from VICTOR EIJKHOUT. http://www.eijkhout.net/texbytopic/texbytopic.html

For a more LaTeX-like layer, have a look at the ifthenelse package
http://www.ctan.org/pkg/ifthen, well documented, try `texdoc ifthen`.

Günter

Re: Error in new beta lyx

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Aliabbas Petiwala wrote:
> I am getting bibtex entry errors.

Yes, these have not been caught in previous versions of LyX. You probably need 
to fix your bibtex database or style file. Please post the errors if you need 
help on this.

Jürgen

Re: formula numbering

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-08-08, bieniasz wrote:
> Richard Heck  lyx.org> writes:

>> What happens, then, when you add a new equation somewhere in
>> the middle of the document?

> This is what LyX already does - it updates automatically the equation
> numbers. My point is why one cannot use these numbers for referencing
> the equations in the text, since they are already there, up-to-date.

But how do you find out the up-to-date number of the equation in chapter
3 you want to reference in chapter 14?

...

> LaTeX users are primarily
> scientists who write scientific texts. In such text one ALWAYS
> refers to equations by numbers, and not by any peculiar labels.

Reference by numbers is used in the printout, but reference by label is used
in all LaTeX source documents.

In the printed text, I usually use a description of the formula + the
reference number so that the reader can look it up if required but generally
does not need to: 

  The incident radiation is absorbed and distributes in the sensor layer
  by means of heat conduction (Equations [15] and [16]) resulting in a
  time-dependent temperature field T(\xyz,t).
 
>> Still, making up a label isn't that hard, and it can make it easier
>> to remeber which equation you want to reference later. You can
>> of course just use numbers if you wish.

> Well, yes and no. If I use my own labels, like
> E1, E2, E3 etc., then I am in trouble when I need to add something
> between E1 and E2, let's say. The problem is that user-defined labels
> are not automatically updated, whereas the real equation numbers are.
> Hence, I have a mess in which labels are in no clear relation to
> the numbers.

But IMO, the even bigger problem is, if you insert a new formula between
E1 and E2 but continue to use E15 for new references to the "heat
equation" (or whatever) which is now E16!!!


> So, in conclusion, I daresay the LaTeX/LyX system for equation numbering
> needs a reasonable revision. If there are any LyX programmers out there,
> please do something about this!!!

I dare to say that the label/reference system is one of the main
advantages of LaTeX (and LyX) for scientific writing. It may be more
complicated to begin with but that effort pays as soon as you write more
than 10 equations in one paper, say.

Günter

Re: Embedded Formula

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-08-14, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Jens-D. Doll  studium.uni-hamburg.de> writes:

>> when formatting my text I use embedded formula, but am not able to use  
>> subscript/superscript within such a formula. Take for instance xi, make it  
>> a formula and afterwards try to make the i a subscript. 

> Does the error occur if you do the following?

> 1. Type 'xi' as text.
> 2. Select both characters and type ctrl-M to make it a formula.
> 3. Select just the 'i' and type the underscore character?

Alternatively:

> 1. Type 'x_i' as text.
> 2. Select the characters and type ctrl-M to make it a formula.

The same problem  
>> occurs when making a text a formula afterwards: all subscripts go lost ...


I suppose this is a different problem, because in LaTeX, text sub/supscripts
are different from math sub/supscripts:

math:  x_i
text:  x\textsub{i}

LyX assumes the "text" to be converted to math with ^M to be LaTeX-math
source code (which is a common way to store mathematical content in 7-bit
ASCII format).

Günter

Re: Recursive Representation

[Richard Heck]

On 08/19/2013 03:07 AM, Jens-D. Doll wrote:


Hello all,

having formatted my document, there ist still a feature I'm missing, 
whci could be named multi subscription. It means the usage of 
subscripted characters in a text, which is already subscripted. 
Neither the menu item nor the math box helped for this purpose up to now.


Can somebody tell me how to format sum(bk(x)), where the sum is the 
greek symbol and k should be a subsript.


I'm not sure I understand you correctly. But it is easy to put 
subscripts on subscripts. I always type "_" (the LaTeX equivalent) to 
get subscripts. So you can type: b_k_x, and you will have something of 
this sort.


If this is not what you want, you might post a LyX file that is as close 
as you can get, and then explain what isn't right.


Richard

Re: Help on LaTeX if statement

[Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com]

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 12:40:48 + (UTC)
Guenter Milde  wrote:

> On 2013-08-10, Steve Litt wrote:
> > Hi all,
> 
> > I need your help. Could you please point me to the best web
> > resources I'd need in order to understand LaTeX's "if" statement? 
> 
> The "raw" if statement is provided by TeX (not LaTeX) and therefore
> has a different "look and feel" as well as philosophy and working.
> Read about it in the excellent "TEX BY TOPIC, A TEXNICIAN’S REFERENCE"
> from VICTOR EIJKHOUT.
> http://www.eijkhout.net/texbytopic/texbytopic.html
> 
> For a more LaTeX-like layer, have a look at the ifthenelse package
> http://www.ctan.org/pkg/ifthen, well documented, try `texdoc ifthen`.
> 
> Günter
> 

Thanks Günter,

I decided to use TeX's ifx statement. It sux that there's no elsif, but
it's reasonably useable, and if you need complex logic you can do it
by flipping flags.

I just downloaded the book you suggested. Personally, I like TeX more
than LaTeX for much the same reasons I like C better than C++. So this
book will be very helpful for me. I already have a fairly good idea
*how to use* TeX, this book gives me the "whys". Thanks for the great
suggestion.

SteveT

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Re: Help on LaTeX if statement

[Richard Heck]

On 08/19/2013 12:03 PM, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 12:40:48 + (UTC)
Guenter Milde  wrote:


On 2013-08-10, Steve Litt wrote:

Hi all,
I need your help. Could you please point me to the best web
resources I'd need in order to understand LaTeX's "if" statement?

The "raw" if statement is provided by TeX (not LaTeX) and therefore
has a different "look and feel" as well as philosophy and working.
Read about it in the excellent "TEX BY TOPIC, A TEXNICIAN’S REFERENCE"
from VICTOR EIJKHOUT.
http://www.eijkhout.net/texbytopic/texbytopic.html

For a more LaTeX-like layer, have a look at the ifthenelse package
http://www.ctan.org/pkg/ifthen, well documented, try `texdoc ifthen`.

Günter


Thanks Günter,

I decided to use TeX's ifx statement. It sux that there's no elsif, but
it's reasonably useable, and if you need complex logic you can do it
by flipping flags.


The ifthenelse package does deal with all these problems.

Rihcard

Re: Error in new beta lyx

[Aliabbas Petiwala]

Also I used Jabber to remove duplicate keys but what jabref does is
converts two identical keys to lowercase and uppercase to make them
different, but this does not eliminate errors so is lyx bibtex case
sensitive?


On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller  wrote:

> Aliabbas Petiwala wrote:
> > I am getting bibtex entry errors.
>
> Yes, these have not been caught in previous versions of LyX. You probably
> need
> to fix your bibtex database or style file. Please post the errors if you
> need
> help on this.
>
> Jürgen
>



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Re: [Formating?]

[Paul Rubin]

Ignacio Martinez  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> When I start a new paragraph after some "LyX-Code" text, that new
paragraph is not indented.
> Pleas help!!!

Insert a separator between the LyX code and the new paragraph.

Paul