Re: viruses
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Mate Wierdl wrote: [...] --- If you want virus prevention via filters, you may want to implement it on your end. It is much less riskier than implementing it on my end. Indeed, I do not know of any filters that would not do false positives. If you implement it, make sure the message containing a virus is not bounced back to sender but simply discarded. [...] Viruses are just one of our problems: spam is the other. I can safely say that the only way to tackle both if we implement one of the two methods I described in my previous email. So we have to make the usual choice between security and convenience. MIMEDefang http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang It's GPL'd and we use it here. I haven't any experience with setting it up but does filter the viruses out and can be set to filter other stuff also. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: viruses
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Mate Wierdl wrote: [...] --- If you want virus prevention via filters, you may want to implement it on your end. It is much less riskier than implementing it on my end. Indeed, I do not know of any filters that would not do false positives. If you implement it, make sure the message containing a virus is not bounced back to sender but simply discarded. [...] Viruses are just one of our problems: spam is the other. I can safely say that the only way to tackle both if we implement one of the two methods I described in my previous email. So we have to make the usual choice between security and convenience. MIMEDefang http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang It's GPL'd and we use it here. I haven't any experience with setting it up but does filter the viruses out and can be set to filter other stuff also. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: viruses
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Mate Wierdl wrote: [...] > --- If you want virus prevention via filters, you may want to > implement it on your end. It is much less riskier than > implementing it on my end. Indeed, I do not know of any filters > that would not do false positives. > > If you implement it, make sure the message containing a virus is not > bounced back to sender but simply discarded. [...] > Viruses are just one of our problems: spam is the other. I can safely > say that the only way to tackle both if we implement one of the two > methods I described in my previous email. So we have to make the usual > choice between security and convenience. MIMEDefang http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang It's GPL'd and we use it here. I haven't any experience with setting it up but does filter the viruses out and can be set to filter other stuff also. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Box at the end of a remark
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Bas Spitters wrote: For an environment I would use: \newenvironment{myremark}{\begin{remark}}{\qed\end{remark}} [...] Second, I want lyx to use myremark instead of remark, when I select remark in lyx What should I do to make lyx do this? Make a copy of the layout file you are using (eg. report.layout) in your ~/.lyx/layouts/ directory and edit that to modify the remark environment. You'll probably just end up writing something like the below since you just need to alter part of an existing definition that is included from some other file: Style Remark Preamble \newenvironment{myremark}{\begin{remark}}{\qed\end{remark}} EndPreamble LaTeXName myremark End See Help-Customization for the correct syntax for layout files. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: What's the best tool for slides?
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, I need your opinions and advice. What's the best tool for slides? By best, I mean: * PDF output or something else universally viewable * Reasonably good looking output * Available documentation on how to install/use it * Reasonably easy to use I've heard people talking about FoilTex, Prosper, TexPower, and Seminar. None of them are installed on my (Mandy8.0) box. I've done several seminars using both FoilTeX and pdfscreen. I have sworn an oath never to use pdfscreen again. Ever. FoilTeX on the other hand is nice to use and produces good output without much effort -- and I wrote most of the LyX docs for this class so maybe I'm biased. I am only a little bit interested in TeXPower and Prosper as I think a seminar should pass information not wind. The ability to animate stuff isn't high on my list but I'm led to believe both will work with FoilTeX. Producing PDFs from foils is simple as is using it with hyperref. Allan. (ARRae)
Web site content overhaul
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Guenter Milde wrote: Well, this one is already there (however, somewhat hidden): the Contributed stuff area on the LyX download page (www.lyx.org/downloads) -- accessible from the main site under the (IMHO misleading) heading How to get it. Overhauling the menus is one of my long overdue TODOs. (I learned, that a volunteer for the website maintenance is searched.) At least a volunteer with the time to overhaul the content -- three of us have already overhauled the look and feel and standards compliance. Now we need the content -- the actual words you read -- to be overhauled. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Box at the end of a remark
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Bas Spitters wrote: For an environment I would use: \newenvironment{myremark}{\begin{remark}}{\qed\end{remark}} [...] Second, I want lyx to use myremark instead of remark, when I select remark in lyx What should I do to make lyx do this? Make a copy of the layout file you are using (eg. report.layout) in your ~/.lyx/layouts/ directory and edit that to modify the remark environment. You'll probably just end up writing something like the below since you just need to alter part of an existing definition that is included from some other file: Style Remark Preamble \newenvironment{myremark}{\begin{remark}}{\qed\end{remark}} EndPreamble LaTeXName myremark End See Help-Customization for the correct syntax for layout files. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: What's the best tool for slides?
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, I need your opinions and advice. What's the best tool for slides? By best, I mean: * PDF output or something else universally viewable * Reasonably good looking output * Available documentation on how to install/use it * Reasonably easy to use I've heard people talking about FoilTex, Prosper, TexPower, and Seminar. None of them are installed on my (Mandy8.0) box. I've done several seminars using both FoilTeX and pdfscreen. I have sworn an oath never to use pdfscreen again. Ever. FoilTeX on the other hand is nice to use and produces good output without much effort -- and I wrote most of the LyX docs for this class so maybe I'm biased. I am only a little bit interested in TeXPower and Prosper as I think a seminar should pass information not wind. The ability to animate stuff isn't high on my list but I'm led to believe both will work with FoilTeX. Producing PDFs from foils is simple as is using it with hyperref. Allan. (ARRae)
Web site content overhaul
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Guenter Milde wrote: Well, this one is already there (however, somewhat hidden): the Contributed stuff area on the LyX download page (www.lyx.org/downloads) -- accessible from the main site under the (IMHO misleading) heading How to get it. Overhauling the menus is one of my long overdue TODOs. (I learned, that a volunteer for the website maintenance is searched.) At least a volunteer with the time to overhaul the content -- three of us have already overhauled the look and feel and standards compliance. Now we need the content -- the actual words you read -- to be overhauled. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Box at the end of a remark
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Bas Spitters wrote: > For an environment I would use: > \newenvironment{myremark}{\begin{remark}}{\qed\end{remark}} [...] > Second, I want lyx to use myremark instead of remark, when I select remark in > lyx > What should I do to make lyx do this? Make a copy of the layout file you are using (eg. report.layout) in your ~/.lyx/layouts/ directory and edit that to modify the remark environment. You'll probably just end up writing something like the below since you just need to alter part of an existing definition that is included from some other file: Style Remark Preamble \newenvironment{myremark}{\begin{remark}}{\qed\end{remark}} EndPreamble LaTeXName myremark End See Help->Customization for the correct syntax for layout files. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: What's the best tool for slides?
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I need your opinions and advice. What's the best tool for slides? By "best", > I mean: > > * PDF output or something else universally viewable > * Reasonably good looking output > * Available documentation on how to install/use it > * Reasonably easy to use > > I've heard people talking about FoilTex, Prosper, TexPower, and Seminar. None > of them are installed on my (Mandy8.0) box. I've done several seminars using both FoilTeX and pdfscreen. I have sworn an oath never to use pdfscreen again. Ever. FoilTeX on the other hand is nice to use and produces good output without much effort -- and I wrote most of the LyX docs for this class so maybe I'm biased. I am only a little bit interested in TeXPower and Prosper as I think a seminar should pass information not wind. The ability to animate stuff isn't high on my list but I'm led to believe both will work with FoilTeX. Producing PDFs from foils is simple as is using it with hyperref. Allan. (ARRae)
Web site content overhaul
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Guenter Milde wrote: > Well, this one is already there (however, somewhat hidden): the "Contributed > stuff" area on the LyX download page (www.lyx.org/downloads) -- accessible > from the main site under the (IMHO misleading) heading "How to get it". Overhauling the menus is one of my long overdue TODOs. > (I learned, that a volunteer for the website maintenance is searched.) At least a volunteer with the time to overhaul the content -- three of us have already overhauled the look and feel and standards compliance. Now we need the content -- the actual words you read -- to be overhauled. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Installing LyX on a new RH 7.2 system
On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Kent Kostuk wrote: Here's another I am a grad student near the end of my deadline and trying to get LyX working plead for help. I can't figure out what's wrong with this install. I am dowloaded lyx-1.1.6fix4-1-rh71.i386.rpm from the LyX ftp site and the xform files from Kayvan ftp site but I get this error after typing lyx at the command line. lyx: error while loading shared libraries: libforms.so.0.88: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. I installed both versions of the xform rpm from Kayvan's site and still get this error. I even uninstalled lyx and then try to install it at the command line but I still get the error that libforms.so.0.88 isn't there. Any suggestions? You probably forgot to run: ldconfig as root. Although you may also need to add the path to /etc/ld.so.conf if it isn't already there or isn't one of the standard locations for libraries -- on most distros this means yoiu have to add /usr/local/lib if you wnat anything there to be seen. An alternative is to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the path of the library. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: latex compile
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, R.G.N. Meegama wrote: Hi, I've got a lyx document (sp.lyx) that uses a separate bib file (ref.bib). It uses IEEEbib.bst for bib formatting. I exported the lyx file to latex and tried to compile the latter using latex as $latex sp.tex I get (?) for all the citation references in the text when viewed in sp.dvi. Any ideas on how to get the correct citation reference in the text ? $latex sp.tex $bibtex sp $latex sp.tex $latex sp.tex Should be sufficient. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Installing LyX on a new RH 7.2 system
On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Kent Kostuk wrote: Here's another I am a grad student near the end of my deadline and trying to get LyX working plead for help. I can't figure out what's wrong with this install. I am dowloaded lyx-1.1.6fix4-1-rh71.i386.rpm from the LyX ftp site and the xform files from Kayvan ftp site but I get this error after typing lyx at the command line. lyx: error while loading shared libraries: libforms.so.0.88: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. I installed both versions of the xform rpm from Kayvan's site and still get this error. I even uninstalled lyx and then try to install it at the command line but I still get the error that libforms.so.0.88 isn't there. Any suggestions? You probably forgot to run: ldconfig as root. Although you may also need to add the path to /etc/ld.so.conf if it isn't already there or isn't one of the standard locations for libraries -- on most distros this means yoiu have to add /usr/local/lib if you wnat anything there to be seen. An alternative is to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the path of the library. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: latex compile
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, R.G.N. Meegama wrote: Hi, I've got a lyx document (sp.lyx) that uses a separate bib file (ref.bib). It uses IEEEbib.bst for bib formatting. I exported the lyx file to latex and tried to compile the latter using latex as $latex sp.tex I get (?) for all the citation references in the text when viewed in sp.dvi. Any ideas on how to get the correct citation reference in the text ? $latex sp.tex $bibtex sp $latex sp.tex $latex sp.tex Should be sufficient. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Installing LyX on a new RH 7.2 system
On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Kent Kostuk wrote: > Here's another "I am a grad student near the end of my deadline and > trying to get LyX working" plead for help. > > I can't figure out what's wrong with this install. I am dowloaded > lyx-1.1.6fix4-1-rh71.i386.rpm from the LyX ftp site and the xform files > from Kayvan ftp site but I get this error after typing lyx at the > command line. > > lyx: error while loading shared libraries: libforms.so.0.88: cannot open > shared object file: No such file or directory. > > I installed both versions of the xform rpm from Kayvan's site and still > get this error. I even uninstalled lyx and then try to install it at the > command line but I still get the error that libforms.so.0.88 isn't > there. > > Any suggestions? You probably forgot to run: ldconfig as root. Although you may also need to add the path to /etc/ld.so.conf if it isn't already there or isn't one of the "standard" locations for libraries -- on most distros this means yoiu have to add /usr/local/lib if you wnat anything there to be seen. An alternative is to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the path of the library. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: latex compile
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, R.G.N. Meegama wrote: > Hi, > > I've got a lyx document (sp.lyx) that uses a separate bib file (ref.bib). > It uses IEEEbib.bst for bib formatting. I exported the lyx file to latex > and tried to compile the latter using latex as > > $latex sp.tex > > I get "(?)" for all the citation references in the text when viewed in > sp.dvi. > > Any ideas on how to get the correct citation reference in the text ? $latex sp.tex $bibtex sp $latex sp.tex $latex sp.tex Should be sufficient. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Re: Dangerous BUG: Search/Replace
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Guenter Milde wrote: but no key/key-combination starts a search :-( This one is not dangerous but very annoying (as this way I need the mouse to click the arrow symbols which is not really productive). I defined these to also respond to C-s and C-r (emacs bindings for search forward and reverse respectively) ages ago. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Re: Dangerous BUG: Search/Replace
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Guenter Milde wrote: but no key/key-combination starts a search :-( This one is not dangerous but very annoying (as this way I need the mouse to click the arrow symbols which is not really productive). I defined these to also respond to C-s and C-r (emacs bindings for search forward and reverse respectively) ages ago. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Re: Dangerous BUG: Search/Replace
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Guenter Milde wrote: > but no key/key-combination starts a search :-( > > This one is not dangerous but very annoying (as this way I need the mouse > to click the arrow symbols which is not really productive). I defined these to also respond to C-s and C-r (emacs bindings for search forward and reverse respectively) ages ago. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Overall environment
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: However, when browsing through Customization document, I was not able to fingure out, how to do this. Any thoughts? KeepEmpty true or is it KeepEmpty 1 something like that for the surrounding otherwise empty environment. IIRC, JMarc created KeepEmpty for this situation. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Overall environment
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: However, when browsing through Customization document, I was not able to fingure out, how to do this. Any thoughts? KeepEmpty true or is it KeepEmpty 1 something like that for the surrounding otherwise empty environment. IIRC, JMarc created KeepEmpty for this situation. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Overall environment
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: > However, when browsing through Customization document, I was not > able to fingure out, how to do this. Any thoughts? KeepEmpty true or is it KeepEmpty 1 something like that for the surrounding otherwise empty environment. IIRC, JMarc created KeepEmpty for this situation. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Changes to my .bib file are ignored
On 14 Mar 2002, Todd Greer wrote: Guenter Milde [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 13 Mar 2002 17:33:13 -0600 wrote Todd Greer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When I change my .bib file, the change doesn't show take effect until I go into Lyx's temporary buffer and delete all the files. Is there something I should be doing to help LyX know that the bibtex file has changed? Failing that, is there a way to ask LyX to rebuild the files other than manually deleting them? You could close LyX and reopen. This helps at least on my Linux system, although I admit it is not a really nice solution Thank you. I think just switching to emacs and deleting the files is easier, though. You might consider File-Export-LaTeX first so you don't lose your work. I've got to say, though, that I was very impressed with how easy it was to get LyX working with bibTeX (other than this issue). I just made the .bib file, inserted the bibTeX link, and it worked. I was expecting it to be hard. Which version of LyX is it that has this bug? I'm pretty sure 1.2.0cvs works okay in this regard. It may be fairly easy to backport a fix for the next 1.1.6fix release -- if it hasn't already been done. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Changes to my .bib file are ignored
On 14 Mar 2002, Todd Greer wrote: Guenter Milde [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 13 Mar 2002 17:33:13 -0600 wrote Todd Greer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When I change my .bib file, the change doesn't show take effect until I go into Lyx's temporary buffer and delete all the files. Is there something I should be doing to help LyX know that the bibtex file has changed? Failing that, is there a way to ask LyX to rebuild the files other than manually deleting them? You could close LyX and reopen. This helps at least on my Linux system, although I admit it is not a really nice solution Thank you. I think just switching to emacs and deleting the files is easier, though. You might consider File-Export-LaTeX first so you don't lose your work. I've got to say, though, that I was very impressed with how easy it was to get LyX working with bibTeX (other than this issue). I just made the .bib file, inserted the bibTeX link, and it worked. I was expecting it to be hard. Which version of LyX is it that has this bug? I'm pretty sure 1.2.0cvs works okay in this regard. It may be fairly easy to backport a fix for the next 1.1.6fix release -- if it hasn't already been done. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Changes to my .bib file are ignored
On 14 Mar 2002, Todd Greer wrote: > Guenter Milde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On 13 Mar 2002 17:33:13 -0600 wrote Todd Greer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > When I change my .bib file, the change doesn't show take effect until I go > > > into > > > Lyx's temporary buffer and delete all the files. > > > > > > Is there something I should be doing to help LyX know that the bibtex file has > > > changed? Failing that, is there a way to ask LyX to rebuild the files other > > > than manually deleting them? > > > > You could close LyX and reopen. This helps at least on my Linux system, > > although I admit it is not a really nice solution > > Thank you. I think just switching to emacs and deleting the files is easier, > though. You might consider File->Export->LaTeX first so you don't lose your work. > I've got to say, though, that I was very impressed with how easy it was to get > LyX working with bibTeX (other than this issue). I just made the .bib file, > inserted the bibTeX link, and it worked. I was expecting it to be hard. Which version of LyX is it that has this bug? I'm pretty sure 1.2.0cvs works okay in this regard. It may be fairly easy to backport a fix for the next 1.1.6fix release -- if it hasn't already been done. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: customizing report
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Herbert Voss wrote: Fabian B. wrote: [...] 3. I don't want a pagebreak, when a new Chapter starts. than don't use reportstyle, take article. Articles don't have chapters. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: customizing report
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Herbert Voss wrote: Fabian B. wrote: [...] 3. I don't want a pagebreak, when a new Chapter starts. than don't use reportstyle, take article. Articles don't have chapters. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: customizing report
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Herbert Voss wrote: > Fabian B. wrote: [...] > > 3. I don't want a pagebreak, when a new Chapter starts. > > > than don't use reportstyle, take article. Articles don't have chapters. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: figures
On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Davide Cavallari wrote: I have chosen the 16 separate figures option. They are all in correspending floating figure objects. How can I force lyx to put all these 16 figures sequentially, without normal text between them? You need to either not float them at all but just include the figures inline in your text or set them all to be displayed here. This is done by putting H or maybe it's h in Layout-Document-Extra-Float_Placement This will affect _all_ your floats. In 1.2.0 I think you'll have per-float placement but nothing more convenient than this for 1.1.6. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: figures
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Davide Cavallari wrote: On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 06:21:35PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote: This will affect _all_ your floats. what does it mean they are *affected* ? simply, that this does influence the position of the other floats? but this doesn't seem much a problem to me, the normal text affects this way the floats, too.. All your floats will be placed where they are mentioned in the text. LaTeX won't let them float to another page. Actually you would probably want to enter !h in the float placement field instead of just h. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: figures
On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Davide Cavallari wrote: I have chosen the 16 separate figures option. They are all in correspending floating figure objects. How can I force lyx to put all these 16 figures sequentially, without normal text between them? You need to either not float them at all but just include the figures inline in your text or set them all to be displayed here. This is done by putting H or maybe it's h in Layout-Document-Extra-Float_Placement This will affect _all_ your floats. In 1.2.0 I think you'll have per-float placement but nothing more convenient than this for 1.1.6. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: figures
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Davide Cavallari wrote: On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 06:21:35PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote: This will affect _all_ your floats. what does it mean they are *affected* ? simply, that this does influence the position of the other floats? but this doesn't seem much a problem to me, the normal text affects this way the floats, too.. All your floats will be placed where they are mentioned in the text. LaTeX won't let them float to another page. Actually you would probably want to enter !h in the float placement field instead of just h. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: figures
On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Davide Cavallari wrote: > I have chosen the 16 separate figures option. They are all in > correspending floating figure objects. How can I force lyx to put all > these 16 figures sequentially, without normal text between them? You need to either not float them at all but just include the figures inline in your text or set them all to be displayed "here". This is done by putting "H" or maybe it's "h" in Layout->Document->Extra->Float_Placement This will affect _all_ your floats. In 1.2.0 I think you'll have per-float placement but nothing more convenient than this for 1.1.6. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: figures
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Davide Cavallari wrote: > On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 06:21:35PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote: > > This will affect _all_ your floats. > > what does it mean they are *affected* ? simply, that this does influence > the position of the other floats? but this doesn't seem much a problem to > me, the normal text affects this way the floats, too.. All your floats will be placed where they are mentioned in the text. LaTeX won't let them float to another page. Actually you would probably want to enter "!h" in the float placement field instead of just "h". Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Re: kewl resource
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, robinson wrote: hey all. how would one go about reducing the distance between any two letters in a document? or two symbols? say i want to mathematical symbols to touch, instead of being right next to one another. how might i go about that? how bout for text? A\kern -0.1em B will close the gap between A and B by one tenth the width of a M in that font. Choose from a myriad of units (pt, cm, in etc.). Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Re: kewl resource
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, robinson wrote: hey all. how would one go about reducing the distance between any two letters in a document? or two symbols? say i want to mathematical symbols to touch, instead of being right next to one another. how might i go about that? how bout for text? A\kern -0.1em B will close the gap between A and B by one tenth the width of a M in that font. Choose from a myriad of units (pt, cm, in etc.). Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Re: kewl resource
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, robinson wrote: > hey all. > > how would one go about reducing the distance between any two letters in a > document? or two symbols? say i want to mathematical symbols to touch, > instead of being right next to one another. how might i go about that? > how bout for text? A\kern -0.1em B will close the gap between A and B by one tenth the width of a "M" in that font. Choose from a myriad of units (pt, cm, in etc.). Allan. (ARRae)
Re: remote call to LyX
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, John O'Gorman wrote: [...] Any idea of how you pass a filename argument to file-open? http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg03622.html I knew I'd seen your exact question not long ago. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: remote call to LyX
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, John O'Gorman wrote: Allan Rae wrote: http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg03622.html [...] We have now reached the limit of my knowledge of lyxserver :( I found the section in the manual (Chapter 4 of Customization). The example in your reference and the ones in the manual haven't worked exactly as described - but I have started burrowing into the src. The relevant files seem to be: LyXAction.C and lyxserver.C. when I print LYXCMD:test:file-open:/path/to/myfile ~/.lyxpipe.in the command is echoed back exactly on ~/.lyxpipe.out The manual said it should reply INFO:test:file-open:data (I am getting back LYXCMD instead of INFO) LyX is not executing the file-open. So I am doing something wrong! I have no idea. There is a reference to development/server_monitor.c Does anyone know how I can get this? Try development/lyxserver/ instead. That's where it is in 1.2.0cvs anyway not sure about 1.1.6. There are a couple of tarballs of perl code there also. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: remote call to LyX
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, John O'Gorman wrote: [...] Any idea of how you pass a filename argument to file-open? http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg03622.html I knew I'd seen your exact question not long ago. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: remote call to LyX
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, John O'Gorman wrote: Allan Rae wrote: http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg03622.html [...] We have now reached the limit of my knowledge of lyxserver :( I found the section in the manual (Chapter 4 of Customization). The example in your reference and the ones in the manual haven't worked exactly as described - but I have started burrowing into the src. The relevant files seem to be: LyXAction.C and lyxserver.C. when I print LYXCMD:test:file-open:/path/to/myfile ~/.lyxpipe.in the command is echoed back exactly on ~/.lyxpipe.out The manual said it should reply INFO:test:file-open:data (I am getting back LYXCMD instead of INFO) LyX is not executing the file-open. So I am doing something wrong! I have no idea. There is a reference to development/server_monitor.c Does anyone know how I can get this? Try development/lyxserver/ instead. That's where it is in 1.2.0cvs anyway not sure about 1.1.6. There are a couple of tarballs of perl code there also. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: remote call to LyX
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, John O'Gorman wrote: [...] > Any idea of how you pass a filename argument to file-open? http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg03622.html I knew I'd seen your exact question not long ago. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: remote call to LyX
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, John O'Gorman wrote: > Allan Rae wrote: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg03622.html [...] We have now reached the limit of my knowledge of lyxserver :( > I found the section in the manual (Chapter 4 of Customization). > > The example in your reference and the ones in the manual > haven't worked exactly as described - but I have started > burrowing into the src. The relevant files seem to be: > LyXAction.C and lyxserver.C. > > when I print "LYXCMD:test:file-open:/path/to/myfile" > ~/.lyxpipe.in > the command is echoed back exactly > on ~/.lyxpipe.out > The manual said it should reply > "INFO:test:file-open:data" (I am getting back LYXCMD instead of INFO) > LyX is not executing the file-open. > > So I am doing something wrong! I have no idea. > There is a reference to development/server_monitor.c > Does anyone know how I can get this? Try development/lyxserver/ instead. That's where it is in 1.2.0cvs anyway not sure about 1.1.6. There are a couple of tarballs of perl code there also. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Trouble with XForms 0.89
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Boris Bukh wrote: I am trying to install LyX on my Linux 7.2 system, but I cannot install RPM because it requires XForms only version 0.88, but I have 0.89. If I ignore dependencies, it does not compile. I could not find RPM for XForms 0.88. Any suggestions? The binary sources are dependent upon 0.88. The SRPM should be able to be rebuilt with 0.89 provided you have the header file (possibly in a separate xforms-devel package). If all else fails you can edit the SPEC/lyx.spec file to change the dependencies. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: remote call to LyX
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, John O'Gorman wrote: I am adding LyX document processing to an existing application. Is there a neat way to call LyX to edit a created file without spawning a new instance of LyX if the user already has an instance running? Possibly the pipe feature could be used for this purpose. Suggestions anyone? The LyXServer should work if passed the right stuff -- see the docs (Customisation I think) you'd need the file-open command I think. If the pipe times out you know there isn't a lyx on the other end of it so then you can spawn a new lyx. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Trouble with XForms 0.89
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Boris Bukh wrote: I am trying to install LyX on my Linux 7.2 system, but I cannot install RPM because it requires XForms only version 0.88, but I have 0.89. If I ignore dependencies, it does not compile. I could not find RPM for XForms 0.88. Any suggestions? The binary sources are dependent upon 0.88. The SRPM should be able to be rebuilt with 0.89 provided you have the header file (possibly in a separate xforms-devel package). If all else fails you can edit the SPEC/lyx.spec file to change the dependencies. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: remote call to LyX
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, John O'Gorman wrote: I am adding LyX document processing to an existing application. Is there a neat way to call LyX to edit a created file without spawning a new instance of LyX if the user already has an instance running? Possibly the pipe feature could be used for this purpose. Suggestions anyone? The LyXServer should work if passed the right stuff -- see the docs (Customisation I think) you'd need the file-open command I think. If the pipe times out you know there isn't a lyx on the other end of it so then you can spawn a new lyx. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Trouble with XForms 0.89
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Boris Bukh wrote: > I am trying to install LyX on my Linux 7.2 system, but > I cannot install RPM because it requires XForms only > version 0.88, but I have 0.89. If I ignore > dependencies, it does not compile. I could not find > RPM for XForms 0.88. > > Any suggestions? The binary sources are dependent upon 0.88. The SRPM should be able to be rebuilt with 0.89 provided you have the header file (possibly in a separate xforms-devel package). If all else fails you can edit the SPEC/lyx.spec file to change the dependencies. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: remote call to LyX
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, John O'Gorman wrote: > > I am adding LyX document processing to an > existing application. > > Is there a neat way to call LyX to edit > a created file without spawning a new > instance of LyX if the user already has > an instance running? > > Possibly the pipe feature could be used for > this purpose. > > Suggestions anyone? The LyXServer should work if passed the right stuff -- see the docs (Customisation I think) you'd need the file-open command I think. If the pipe times out you know there isn't a lyx on the other end of it so then you can spawn a new lyx. Allan. (ARRae)
RE: math panel
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, sender wrote: ok, team. i'm on the road to recovery. i've located my symbol on the web, i put it in my lyx document, and it spits out the following error: Load the latexsym or the amsfonts package to define this symbol. yay. but what does that mean, where do i find it, and how do i do it? put: \usepackage{latexsym} or \usepackage{amsfonts} in your preamble. Actually it may also be the case that you could just tick the Layout-Document-Use AMS Math box. you guys are great. thanks for the help so far. We grow as a community by helping one another. Allan. (ARRae)
RE: math panel
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, sender wrote: ok, team. i'm on the road to recovery. i've located my symbol on the web, i put it in my lyx document, and it spits out the following error: Load the latexsym or the amsfonts package to define this symbol. yay. but what does that mean, where do i find it, and how do i do it? put: \usepackage{latexsym} or \usepackage{amsfonts} in your preamble. Actually it may also be the case that you could just tick the Layout-Document-Use AMS Math box. you guys are great. thanks for the help so far. We grow as a community by helping one another. Allan. (ARRae)
RE: math panel
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, sender wrote: > > ok, team. i'm on the road to recovery. i've located my symbol on the > web, i put it in my lyx document, and it spits out the following error: > Load the latexsym or the amsfonts package to define this symbol. yay. > but what does that mean, where do i find it, and how do i do it? put: \usepackage{latexsym} or \usepackage{amsfonts} in your preamble. Actually it may also be the case that you could just tick the Layout->Document->Use AMS Math box. > you guys are great. thanks for the help so far. We grow as a community by helping one another. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Linux.conf.au LyX Work-In-Progress online
On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Herbert Voss wrote: Allan Rae wrote: the actual tarball is here: http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/LCA-2002-LyX-rae.tar.gz you are using the textclass pdfscreen. can you send the pdfscreen.layout to this list? I'll add it to the tarball sometime soon. In the meantime here is the layout file. It is a modified version of the one Dekel has posted a few times. I made some of the environments use Sans font so they look more like the result -- note that many of the styles didn't get fixed for this (they are the ones that the seminar didn't use ;-) I'll try to remember to fix the other styles font settings in the version bundled in the tarball (whenever I get around to that). Allan. (ARRae) #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this # \DeclareLaTeXClass[article]{slides (pdfscreen)} # By Dekel Tsur [EMAIL PROTECTED] # General textclass parameters Sides 1 Columns 1 ClassOptions FontSize 8|9|10|11|12|14|17 Other slidesec End DefaultFont FamilySans SeriesMedium Shape Up Size Normal Color None EndFont # # Layout-specific preamble # # Preamble \newcounter{slidetype} \setcounter{slidetype}{0} \newcommand{\lyxendslide}{ \ifcase \value{slidetype}% \or % no action for 0 \end{slide} \fi% \setcounter{slidetype}{0} } \AtEndDocument{\lyxendslide} \usepackage{hyperref} \usepackage[screen,nopanel]{pdfscreen2} EndPreamble # # Standard style definition # Always comes first. # Style Standard MarginStatic LatexType Paragraph LatexName dummy ParIndent M ParSkip 0.4 Align Block AlignPossible Block, Left, Right, Center LabelType No_Label Font FamilySans EndFont End ## # # New Definitions for Slides # ## Style Slide MarginDynamic LatexType Command LatexName lyxnewslide NeedProtect 1 NextNoIndent 1 ParSkip 0.4 TopSep1.3 BottomSep 0.7 ParSep0.7 Align Center AlignPossible Block, Center, Left LabelType Counter_Section LabelSep xxx Font Series Bold SizeLarger EndFont Preamble \newcommand{\lyxnewslide}[1]{ \lyxendslide \setcounter{slidetype}{1} \begin{slide} \slideheading{#1} } EndPreamble End Style Slide* CopyStyle Slide LatexName lyxnewslidex Preamble \newcommand{\lyxnewslidex}[1]{ \lyxendslide \setcounter{slidetype}{1} \begin{slide} } EndPreamble End Input stdclass.inc # There are no chapters in an article. NoStyle Chapter NoStyle Chapter* MaxCounter Counter_Section SecNumDepth 3 TocDepth3 Style Itemize Font FamilySans EndFont End # Change a bit Part and Part* Style Part Align Left AlignPossible Left TopSep2 BottomSep 1.5 Font SizeLarger EndFont End Style Part* Align Left AlignPossible Left TopSep2 BottomSep 1.5 Font SizeLarger EndFont End Style Comment MarginFirst_Dynamic NextNoIndent 0 LeftMarginMM RightMargin MM LabelFont Color magenta EndFont End Style Bibliography Font FamilySans EndFont End
Re: Linux.conf.au LyX Work-In-Progress online
On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Herbert Voss wrote: Allan Rae wrote: the actual tarball is here: http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/LCA-2002-LyX-rae.tar.gz you are using the textclass pdfscreen. can you send the pdfscreen.layout to this list? I'll add it to the tarball sometime soon. In the meantime here is the layout file. It is a modified version of the one Dekel has posted a few times. I made some of the environments use Sans font so they look more like the result -- note that many of the styles didn't get fixed for this (they are the ones that the seminar didn't use ;-) I'll try to remember to fix the other styles font settings in the version bundled in the tarball (whenever I get around to that). Allan. (ARRae) #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this # \DeclareLaTeXClass[article]{slides (pdfscreen)} # By Dekel Tsur [EMAIL PROTECTED] # General textclass parameters Sides 1 Columns 1 ClassOptions FontSize 8|9|10|11|12|14|17 Other slidesec End DefaultFont FamilySans SeriesMedium Shape Up Size Normal Color None EndFont # # Layout-specific preamble # # Preamble \newcounter{slidetype} \setcounter{slidetype}{0} \newcommand{\lyxendslide}{ \ifcase \value{slidetype}% \or % no action for 0 \end{slide} \fi% \setcounter{slidetype}{0} } \AtEndDocument{\lyxendslide} \usepackage{hyperref} \usepackage[screen,nopanel]{pdfscreen2} EndPreamble # # Standard style definition # Always comes first. # Style Standard MarginStatic LatexType Paragraph LatexName dummy ParIndent M ParSkip 0.4 Align Block AlignPossible Block, Left, Right, Center LabelType No_Label Font FamilySans EndFont End ## # # New Definitions for Slides # ## Style Slide MarginDynamic LatexType Command LatexName lyxnewslide NeedProtect 1 NextNoIndent 1 ParSkip 0.4 TopSep1.3 BottomSep 0.7 ParSep0.7 Align Center AlignPossible Block, Center, Left LabelType Counter_Section LabelSep xxx Font Series Bold SizeLarger EndFont Preamble \newcommand{\lyxnewslide}[1]{ \lyxendslide \setcounter{slidetype}{1} \begin{slide} \slideheading{#1} } EndPreamble End Style Slide* CopyStyle Slide LatexName lyxnewslidex Preamble \newcommand{\lyxnewslidex}[1]{ \lyxendslide \setcounter{slidetype}{1} \begin{slide} } EndPreamble End Input stdclass.inc # There are no chapters in an article. NoStyle Chapter NoStyle Chapter* MaxCounter Counter_Section SecNumDepth 3 TocDepth3 Style Itemize Font FamilySans EndFont End # Change a bit Part and Part* Style Part Align Left AlignPossible Left TopSep2 BottomSep 1.5 Font SizeLarger EndFont End Style Part* Align Left AlignPossible Left TopSep2 BottomSep 1.5 Font SizeLarger EndFont End Style Comment MarginFirst_Dynamic NextNoIndent 0 LeftMarginMM RightMargin MM LabelFont Color magenta EndFont End Style Bibliography Font FamilySans EndFont End
Re: Linux.conf.au LyX Work-In-Progress online
On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Herbert Voss wrote: > Allan Rae wrote: > > > the actual tarball is here: > > http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/LCA-2002-LyX-rae.tar.gz > > you are using the textclass pdfscreen. can you send > the pdfscreen.layout to this list? I'll add it to the tarball sometime soon. In the meantime here is the layout file. It is a modified version of the one Dekel has posted a few times. I made some of the environments use Sans font so they look more like the result -- note that many of the styles didn't get fixed for this (they are the ones that the seminar didn't use ;-) I'll try to remember to fix the other styles font settings in the version bundled in the tarball (whenever I get around to that). Allan. (ARRae) #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this # \DeclareLaTeXClass[article]{slides (pdfscreen)} # By Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> # General textclass parameters Sides 1 Columns 1 ClassOptions FontSize 8|9|10|11|12|14|17 Other slidesec End DefaultFont FamilySans SeriesMedium Shape Up Size Normal Color None EndFont # # Layout-specific preamble # # Preamble \newcounter{slidetype} \setcounter{slidetype}{0} \newcommand{\lyxendslide}{ \ifcase \value{slidetype}% \or % no action for 0 \end{slide} \fi% \setcounter{slidetype}{0} } \AtEndDocument{\lyxendslide} \usepackage{hyperref} \usepackage[screen,nopanel]{pdfscreen2} EndPreamble # # Standard style definition # Always comes first. # Style Standard MarginStatic LatexType Paragraph LatexName dummy ParIndent M ParSkip 0.4 Align Block AlignPossible Block, Left, Right, Center LabelType No_Label Font FamilySans EndFont End ## # # New Definitions for Slides # ## Style Slide MarginDynamic LatexType Command LatexName lyxnewslide NeedProtect 1 NextNoIndent 1 ParSkip 0.4 TopSep1.3 BottomSep 0.7 ParSep0.7 Align Center AlignPossible Block, Center, Left LabelType Counter_Section LabelSep xxx Font Series Bold SizeLarger EndFont Preamble \newcommand{\lyxnewslide}[1]{ \lyxendslide \setcounter{slidetype}{1} \begin{slide} \slideheading{#1} } EndPreamble End Style Slide* CopyStyle Slide LatexName lyxnewslidex Preamble \newcommand{\lyxnewslidex}[1]{ \lyxendslide \setcounter{slidetype}{1} \begin{slide} } EndPreamble End Input stdclass.inc # There are no chapters in an article. NoStyle Chapter NoStyle Chapter* MaxCounter Counter_Section SecNumDepth 3 TocDepth3 Style Itemize Font FamilySans EndFont End # Change a bit Part and Part* Style Part Align Left AlignPossible Left TopSep2 BottomSep 1.5 Font SizeLarger EndFont End Style Part* Align Left AlignPossible Left TopSep2 BottomSep 1.5 Font SizeLarger EndFont End Style Comment MarginFirst_Dynamic NextNoIndent 0 LeftMarginMM RightMargin MM LabelFont Color magenta EndFont End Style Bibliography Font FamilySans EndFont End
Re: IEEEtran / Babel
On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Nick Burgan wrote: Hello All, I am writing a paper for the IEEE using IEEEtran_v15.cls as my Document Class. After trying lots of things to try and get IEEEtran to work and reading all of the emails on the list that I could find related to this, I believe that you can not use Babel when using the IEEEtran. Is this correct ? Now that I have removed the line \usepackage{babel} from Edit - Preferences - Lang Opts - language, Package my paper compiles without any errors. My problem is that often I have several documents open within LyX. All of these except for the IEEE paper use babel. If I want to compile them I need to type the \usepackage{babel} line in again. I was wondering if there was something that I could put just in the preamble of my IEEE paper that would turn babel off, without having to turn it off globally in LyX. Try this (just a guess) in the preferences dialog instead: \AtBeginDocument{\usepackage{babel}} Allan. (ARRae)
Re: importing latex files with additional .sty files
On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Nirmal Govind wrote: Hi, I'm trying to import a latex file which uses a couple of sty files - res.sty (used for resumes) and fancyhead.sty. LyX gives me an error saying that it can't import the file : Error while executing reLyX -f 'resume.tex' Please let me know if anyone knows of a fix to this problem. If res.sty is a package that manipulates a supported document class (like article.cls) then you can probably use reLyX on the command line with the additional parameter -c article replacing article by whatever supported class res.sty manipulates. See also `man reLyX`. If res.sty if a latex-2.09 style file you are probably wasting your time. LyX and reLyX only support LaTeX2e -- you can make LyX work with LaTeX-2.09 files by wrapping them up into a LaTeX2e class though. You can tell if your document is a LaTeX-2.09 file or not by running latex on it and seeing if a banner warning you it is using compatability mode comes up. Or grep for documentstyle in the .tex file. Otherwise try sending some more context for the error message so someone else can get an idea of what is happening. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Small Xforms fonts with Hi-res laptop
On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Peter Drummond wrote: So the problem is specifically Xforms. I have not been able to fix this in the preferences, by trying other fonts for popups and menus - in fact, this tends to make all menus go blank until you delete .lyx. I have been fiddling with these fonts for the last week and haven't experienced any problem (in either 1.1.6 or 1.2.0cvs). Go for a font that is well shaped and should be more easily distinquished like Verdana or Helvetica. The attached patch makes the menu font as large as possible within the small the small bounds of the default menu height. This should look like almost double the height of your current menu. As a bonus all the choice boxes in the dialogs are also heaps bigger -- however these changes don't affect the fonts in the dialogs. That is going to be a really tough problem with XForms I think. XForms does have a variable size font setting but I haven't tested to see what effect that has. The changes in the patch could be extended into a Preferences setting but would also require a rewrite of the way the menu bar is draw in LyX. Far too much stuff is hard-coded (like sizes and placement) and other parts of the code also rely upon these assumptions... bad bad bad. This may at least help a bit. Allan. (ARRae) Index: src/lyx_gui.C === RCS file: /usr/local/lyx/cvsroot/lyx-devel/src/lyx_gui.C,v retrieving revision 1.73.2.2 diff -u -p -r1.73.2.2 lyx_gui.C --- src/lyx_gui.C 2001/08/31 09:38:08 1.73.2.2 +++ src/lyx_gui.C 2002/02/12 05:56:24 @@ -235,7 +235,7 @@ void LyXGUI::init() // Moved from ::LyXGUI to ::init to allow popup font customization // (petr 120997). fl_setpup_fontstyle(FL_NORMAL_STYLE); - fl_setpup_fontsize(FL_NORMAL_SIZE); + fl_setpup_fontsize(FL_LARGE_SIZE); fl_setpup_color(FL_MCOL, FL_BLACK); fl_set_goodies_font(FL_NORMAL_STYLE, FL_NORMAL_SIZE); Index: src/frontends/xforms/Menubar_pimpl.C === RCS file: /usr/local/lyx/cvsroot/lyx-devel/src/frontends/xforms/Menubar_pimpl.C,v retrieving revision 1.24 diff -u -p -r1.24 Menubar_pimpl.C --- src/frontends/xforms/Menubar_pimpl.C2001/01/09 13:58:48 1.24 +++ src/frontends/xforms/Menubar_pimpl.C2002/02/12 05:56:24 @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@ extern kb_keymap * toplevel_keymap; extern LyXAction lyxaction; // Some constants -static const int MENU_LABEL_SIZE = FL_NORMAL_SIZE; +static const int MENU_LABEL_SIZE = FL_LARGE_SIZE; static const int mheight = 30; static const int mbheight= 22; // where to place the menubar?
Re: IEEEtran / Babel
On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Nick Burgan wrote: Hello All, I am writing a paper for the IEEE using IEEEtran_v15.cls as my Document Class. After trying lots of things to try and get IEEEtran to work and reading all of the emails on the list that I could find related to this, I believe that you can not use Babel when using the IEEEtran. Is this correct ? Now that I have removed the line \usepackage{babel} from Edit - Preferences - Lang Opts - language, Package my paper compiles without any errors. My problem is that often I have several documents open within LyX. All of these except for the IEEE paper use babel. If I want to compile them I need to type the \usepackage{babel} line in again. I was wondering if there was something that I could put just in the preamble of my IEEE paper that would turn babel off, without having to turn it off globally in LyX. Try this (just a guess) in the preferences dialog instead: \AtBeginDocument{\usepackage{babel}} Allan. (ARRae)
Re: importing latex files with additional .sty files
On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Nirmal Govind wrote: Hi, I'm trying to import a latex file which uses a couple of sty files - res.sty (used for resumes) and fancyhead.sty. LyX gives me an error saying that it can't import the file : Error while executing reLyX -f 'resume.tex' Please let me know if anyone knows of a fix to this problem. If res.sty is a package that manipulates a supported document class (like article.cls) then you can probably use reLyX on the command line with the additional parameter -c article replacing article by whatever supported class res.sty manipulates. See also `man reLyX`. If res.sty if a latex-2.09 style file you are probably wasting your time. LyX and reLyX only support LaTeX2e -- you can make LyX work with LaTeX-2.09 files by wrapping them up into a LaTeX2e class though. You can tell if your document is a LaTeX-2.09 file or not by running latex on it and seeing if a banner warning you it is using compatability mode comes up. Or grep for documentstyle in the .tex file. Otherwise try sending some more context for the error message so someone else can get an idea of what is happening. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Small Xforms fonts with Hi-res laptop
On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Peter Drummond wrote: So the problem is specifically Xforms. I have not been able to fix this in the preferences, by trying other fonts for popups and menus - in fact, this tends to make all menus go blank until you delete .lyx. I have been fiddling with these fonts for the last week and haven't experienced any problem (in either 1.1.6 or 1.2.0cvs). Go for a font that is well shaped and should be more easily distinquished like Verdana or Helvetica. The attached patch makes the menu font as large as possible within the small the small bounds of the default menu height. This should look like almost double the height of your current menu. As a bonus all the choice boxes in the dialogs are also heaps bigger -- however these changes don't affect the fonts in the dialogs. That is going to be a really tough problem with XForms I think. XForms does have a variable size font setting but I haven't tested to see what effect that has. The changes in the patch could be extended into a Preferences setting but would also require a rewrite of the way the menu bar is draw in LyX. Far too much stuff is hard-coded (like sizes and placement) and other parts of the code also rely upon these assumptions... bad bad bad. This may at least help a bit. Allan. (ARRae) Index: src/lyx_gui.C === RCS file: /usr/local/lyx/cvsroot/lyx-devel/src/lyx_gui.C,v retrieving revision 1.73.2.2 diff -u -p -r1.73.2.2 lyx_gui.C --- src/lyx_gui.C 2001/08/31 09:38:08 1.73.2.2 +++ src/lyx_gui.C 2002/02/12 05:56:24 @@ -235,7 +235,7 @@ void LyXGUI::init() // Moved from ::LyXGUI to ::init to allow popup font customization // (petr 120997). fl_setpup_fontstyle(FL_NORMAL_STYLE); - fl_setpup_fontsize(FL_NORMAL_SIZE); + fl_setpup_fontsize(FL_LARGE_SIZE); fl_setpup_color(FL_MCOL, FL_BLACK); fl_set_goodies_font(FL_NORMAL_STYLE, FL_NORMAL_SIZE); Index: src/frontends/xforms/Menubar_pimpl.C === RCS file: /usr/local/lyx/cvsroot/lyx-devel/src/frontends/xforms/Menubar_pimpl.C,v retrieving revision 1.24 diff -u -p -r1.24 Menubar_pimpl.C --- src/frontends/xforms/Menubar_pimpl.C2001/01/09 13:58:48 1.24 +++ src/frontends/xforms/Menubar_pimpl.C2002/02/12 05:56:24 @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@ extern kb_keymap * toplevel_keymap; extern LyXAction lyxaction; // Some constants -static const int MENU_LABEL_SIZE = FL_NORMAL_SIZE; +static const int MENU_LABEL_SIZE = FL_LARGE_SIZE; static const int mheight = 30; static const int mbheight= 22; // where to place the menubar?
Re: IEEEtran / Babel
On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Nick Burgan wrote: > Hello All, > > I am writing a paper for the IEEE using IEEEtran_v15.cls as my Document Class. > After trying lots of things to try and get IEEEtran to work and reading all > of the emails on the list that I could find related to this, I believe that > you can not use Babel when using the IEEEtran. Is this correct ? > > Now that I have removed the line \usepackage{babel} from Edit -> Preferences > -> Lang Opts -> language, Package my paper compiles without any errors. > > My problem is that often I have several documents open within LyX. All of > these except for the IEEE paper use babel. If I want to compile them I need > to type the \usepackage{babel} line in again. I was wondering if there was > something that I could put just in the preamble of my IEEE paper that would > turn babel off, without having to turn it off globally in LyX. Try this (just a guess) in the preferences dialog instead: \AtBeginDocument{\usepackage{babel}} Allan. (ARRae)
Re: importing latex files with additional .sty files
On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Nirmal Govind wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to import a latex file which uses a couple of sty files - > res.sty (used for resumes) and fancyhead.sty. LyX gives me an error saying > that it can't import the file : "Error while executing reLyX -f 'resume.tex'" > > Please let me know if anyone knows of a fix to this problem. If res.sty is a package that manipulates a supported document class (like article.cls) then you can probably use reLyX on the command line with the additional parameter "-c article" replacing article by whatever supported class res.sty manipulates. See also `man reLyX`. If res.sty if a latex-2.09 style file you are probably wasting your time. LyX and reLyX only support LaTeX2e -- you can make LyX work with LaTeX-2.09 files by wrapping them up into a LaTeX2e class though. You can tell if your document is a LaTeX-2.09 file or not by running latex on it and seeing if a banner warning you it is using compatability mode comes up. Or grep for "documentstyle" in the .tex file. Otherwise try sending some more context for the error message so someone else can get an idea of what is happening. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Small Xforms fonts with Hi-res laptop
On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Peter Drummond wrote: > So the problem is specifically Xforms. I have not been able > to fix this in the preferences, by trying other fonts for > popups and menus - in fact, this tends to make all menus > go blank until you delete .lyx. I have been fiddling with these fonts for the last week and haven't experienced any problem (in either 1.1.6 or 1.2.0cvs). Go for a font that is well shaped and should be more easily distinquished like Verdana or Helvetica. The attached patch makes the menu font as large as possible within the small the small bounds of the default menu height. This should look like almost double the height of your current menu. As a bonus all the choice boxes in the dialogs are also heaps bigger -- however these changes don't affect the fonts in the dialogs. That is going to be a really tough problem with XForms I think. XForms does have a variable size font setting but I haven't tested to see what effect that has. The changes in the patch could be extended into a Preferences setting but would also require a rewrite of the way the menu bar is draw in LyX. Far too much stuff is hard-coded (like sizes and placement) and other parts of the code also rely upon these assumptions... bad bad bad. This may at least help a bit. Allan. (ARRae) Index: src/lyx_gui.C === RCS file: /usr/local/lyx/cvsroot/lyx-devel/src/lyx_gui.C,v retrieving revision 1.73.2.2 diff -u -p -r1.73.2.2 lyx_gui.C --- src/lyx_gui.C 2001/08/31 09:38:08 1.73.2.2 +++ src/lyx_gui.C 2002/02/12 05:56:24 @@ -235,7 +235,7 @@ void LyXGUI::init() // Moved from ::LyXGUI to ::init to allow popup font customization // (petr 120997). fl_setpup_fontstyle(FL_NORMAL_STYLE); - fl_setpup_fontsize(FL_NORMAL_SIZE); + fl_setpup_fontsize(FL_LARGE_SIZE); fl_setpup_color(FL_MCOL, FL_BLACK); fl_set_goodies_font(FL_NORMAL_STYLE, FL_NORMAL_SIZE); Index: src/frontends/xforms/Menubar_pimpl.C === RCS file: /usr/local/lyx/cvsroot/lyx-devel/src/frontends/xforms/Menubar_pimpl.C,v retrieving revision 1.24 diff -u -p -r1.24 Menubar_pimpl.C --- src/frontends/xforms/Menubar_pimpl.C2001/01/09 13:58:48 1.24 +++ src/frontends/xforms/Menubar_pimpl.C2002/02/12 05:56:24 @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@ extern kb_keymap * toplevel_keymap; extern LyXAction lyxaction; // Some constants -static const int MENU_LABEL_SIZE = FL_NORMAL_SIZE; +static const int MENU_LABEL_SIZE = FL_LARGE_SIZE; static const int mheight = 30; static const int mbheight= 22; // where to place the menubar?
Linux.conf.au LyX Work-In-Progress online
For those of you who are really keen I've just made a tarball of files available. The LyX files therein will only work with 1.2.0cvs however I have also bundled pre-generated so you can at least see what the files would produce. There's also a README. More details at: http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/index.html the actual tarball is here: http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/LCA-2002-LyX-rae.tar.gz All available within four hours of presenting it. BTW, the seminar was recorded (audio and screen, I think, hmmm... maybe just audio) so I'm hoping that'll be available sometime soon also. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Small Xforms fonts with Hi-res laptop
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Peter D Drummond wrote: Hi - Hi Peter have a probably trivial problem, but serious if your eyesight is not 100% (like mine). Just installed Lyx on a Dell `Big-boy' M40 laptop with 1600*1200 screen (140dpi). The main Lyx window handles this just fine. BUT - if you look at menus, all the Xforms fonts in the menus and icons become incredibly tiny - obviously they aren't scaling correctly. I can't find any information on how to fix this. Same problem with Tc/Tk apps. The trouble is, XForms is the equivalent of fixed point arithmetic in an age of floating point arithmetic. It's not as simple as just setting a larger default font size for the dialog/menu fonts and expecting xforms to cope -- it won't, it doesn't have the facilities for this. Some of the dialogs are rigged so they can't be resized because of another problem with xforms so even if the fonts got bigger and we re-enabled resizing then the dialogs would probably still get drawn wrong. That said, the probably should be investigated. I guess I now have a 1,000,001th thing to look into :-) I suspect something could be rigged up but unless it's *very* simple time will be better spent getting the rest of the GUI work done. I'll take another look at how hard it is to switch to fltk while I'm at it (that's already on the todo list anyway). Other KDE (ie, Qt) application programs will scale all the menu fonts correctly. Isn't it time we changed over to Qt, guys? I mean, forget GUI independence, it would be nice to have Lyx on just ONE modern GUI.. GUII is getting very close now Peter. Too close to stop. Admittedly the last three months or so hasn't seen much change because the developers involved have been either preoccupied with other work or have been fixing bugs in preparation for the long overdue 1.2.0pre1 release. You could start using 1.2.0cvs (pretty stable at present) and compile with the Qt2 frontend. At least those dialogs that have been converted will be readable for you. Then you can learn the shortcut keys for everything else and forget about ever needing the menus again! By the way, I've ordered a high-res M40 for my wife as well, so I need to fix this problem before it arrives, otherwise domestic disharmony is on the horizon - her eyesight is no better than mine for tiny fonts.. ;-) If she complains, I'll give it good home. ;-) Keep up all the good work - and send good vibrations over the ether to Allan Rae, who is talking on Lyx tomorrow at the Linux conference here in sunny Brisbane, Australia. Hope someone out there has a cool idea on this. The seminar went pretty well and is available on the web at: http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/ Allan. (ARRae)
Linux.conf.au LyX Work-In-Progress online
For those of you who are really keen I've just made a tarball of files available. The LyX files therein will only work with 1.2.0cvs however I have also bundled pre-generated so you can at least see what the files would produce. There's also a README. More details at: http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/index.html the actual tarball is here: http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/LCA-2002-LyX-rae.tar.gz All available within four hours of presenting it. BTW, the seminar was recorded (audio and screen, I think, hmmm... maybe just audio) so I'm hoping that'll be available sometime soon also. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Small Xforms fonts with Hi-res laptop
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Peter D Drummond wrote: Hi - Hi Peter have a probably trivial problem, but serious if your eyesight is not 100% (like mine). Just installed Lyx on a Dell `Big-boy' M40 laptop with 1600*1200 screen (140dpi). The main Lyx window handles this just fine. BUT - if you look at menus, all the Xforms fonts in the menus and icons become incredibly tiny - obviously they aren't scaling correctly. I can't find any information on how to fix this. Same problem with Tc/Tk apps. The trouble is, XForms is the equivalent of fixed point arithmetic in an age of floating point arithmetic. It's not as simple as just setting a larger default font size for the dialog/menu fonts and expecting xforms to cope -- it won't, it doesn't have the facilities for this. Some of the dialogs are rigged so they can't be resized because of another problem with xforms so even if the fonts got bigger and we re-enabled resizing then the dialogs would probably still get drawn wrong. That said, the probably should be investigated. I guess I now have a 1,000,001th thing to look into :-) I suspect something could be rigged up but unless it's *very* simple time will be better spent getting the rest of the GUI work done. I'll take another look at how hard it is to switch to fltk while I'm at it (that's already on the todo list anyway). Other KDE (ie, Qt) application programs will scale all the menu fonts correctly. Isn't it time we changed over to Qt, guys? I mean, forget GUI independence, it would be nice to have Lyx on just ONE modern GUI.. GUII is getting very close now Peter. Too close to stop. Admittedly the last three months or so hasn't seen much change because the developers involved have been either preoccupied with other work or have been fixing bugs in preparation for the long overdue 1.2.0pre1 release. You could start using 1.2.0cvs (pretty stable at present) and compile with the Qt2 frontend. At least those dialogs that have been converted will be readable for you. Then you can learn the shortcut keys for everything else and forget about ever needing the menus again! By the way, I've ordered a high-res M40 for my wife as well, so I need to fix this problem before it arrives, otherwise domestic disharmony is on the horizon - her eyesight is no better than mine for tiny fonts.. ;-) If she complains, I'll give it good home. ;-) Keep up all the good work - and send good vibrations over the ether to Allan Rae, who is talking on Lyx tomorrow at the Linux conference here in sunny Brisbane, Australia. Hope someone out there has a cool idea on this. The seminar went pretty well and is available on the web at: http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/ Allan. (ARRae)
Linux.conf.au LyX Work-In-Progress online
For those of you who are really keen I've just made a tarball of files available. The LyX files therein will only work with 1.2.0cvs however I have also bundled pre-generated so you can at least see what the files would produce. There's also a README. More details at: http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/index.html the actual tarball is here: http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/LCA-2002-LyX-rae.tar.gz All available within four hours of presenting it. BTW, the seminar was recorded (audio and screen, I think, hmmm... maybe just audio) so I'm hoping that'll be available sometime soon also. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Small Xforms fonts with Hi-res laptop
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Peter D Drummond wrote: > Hi - Hi Peter > have a probably trivial problem, but serious if your eyesight > is not 100% (like mine). Just installed Lyx on a Dell `Big-boy' > M40 laptop with 1600*1200 screen (140dpi). The main Lyx window > handles this just fine. > > BUT - if you look at menus, all the Xforms fonts in the menus and > icons become incredibly tiny - obviously they aren't scaling > correctly. I can't find any information on how to fix this. > Same problem with Tc/Tk apps. The trouble is, XForms is the equivalent of fixed point arithmetic in an age of floating point arithmetic. It's not as simple as just setting a larger default font size for the dialog/menu fonts and expecting xforms to cope -- it won't, it doesn't have the facilities for this. Some of the dialogs are rigged so they can't be resized because of another problem with xforms so even if the fonts got bigger and we re-enabled resizing then the dialogs would probably still get drawn wrong. That said, the "probably" should be investigated. I guess I now have a 1,000,001th thing to look into :-) I suspect something could be rigged up but unless it's *very* simple time will be better spent getting the rest of the GUI work done. I'll take another look at how hard it is to switch to fltk while I'm at it (that's already on the todo list anyway). > Other KDE (ie, Qt) application programs will scale all the menu > fonts correctly. Isn't it time we changed over to Qt, guys? > I mean, forget GUI independence, it would be nice to have Lyx > on just ONE modern GUI.. GUII is getting very close now Peter. Too close to stop. Admittedly the last three months or so hasn't seen much change because the developers involved have been either preoccupied with other work or have been fixing bugs in preparation for the long overdue 1.2.0pre1 release. You could start using 1.2.0cvs (pretty stable at present) and compile with the Qt2 frontend. At least those dialogs that have been converted will be readable for you. Then you can learn the shortcut keys for everything else and forget about ever needing the menus again! > By the way, I've ordered a high-res M40 for my wife as well, so > I need to fix this problem before it arrives, otherwise domestic > disharmony is on the horizon - her eyesight is no better than mine > for tiny fonts.. ;-) If she complains, I'll give it good home. ;-) > Keep up all the good work - and send good vibrations over the > ether to Allan Rae, who is talking on Lyx tomorrow at the Linux > conference here in sunny Brisbane, Australia. Hope someone out > there has a cool idea on this. The seminar went pretty well and is available on the web at: http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/ Allan. (ARRae)
Quick help for seminar
I want to include some Hebrew in a demonstration that LyX can actually be used for RTL languages but I can't make it work. I have Hebrew fonts, I setup a PDF (pdfelatex) and a DVI (elatex) convertor. I enabled RTL support in Prefernecs-Language. I can switch languages (although I haven't setup an alternate keyboard for Hebrew -- do I need to? I can't even remember how to swicth keyboards ... ) Anyway, can someone, Dekel?, give me a file with some Hebrew in it especially if it also has two minipages and an english translation in a two column thingy -- nice for a demo. And can you give me a clue as to what I should need to do to get something in the way of output. My attempts so far result in hundreds of latex errors. I'm running short of time so please forgive the lack of RTFM. Thanks, Allan. (ARRae)
Quick help for seminar
I want to include some Hebrew in a demonstration that LyX can actually be used for RTL languages but I can't make it work. I have Hebrew fonts, I setup a PDF (pdfelatex) and a DVI (elatex) convertor. I enabled RTL support in Prefernecs-Language. I can switch languages (although I haven't setup an alternate keyboard for Hebrew -- do I need to? I can't even remember how to swicth keyboards ... ) Anyway, can someone, Dekel?, give me a file with some Hebrew in it especially if it also has two minipages and an english translation in a two column thingy -- nice for a demo. And can you give me a clue as to what I should need to do to get something in the way of output. My attempts so far result in hundreds of latex errors. I'm running short of time so please forgive the lack of RTFM. Thanks, Allan. (ARRae)
Quick help for seminar
I want to include some Hebrew in a demonstration that LyX can actually be used for RTL languages but I can't make it work. I have Hebrew fonts, I setup a "PDF (pdfelatex)" and a "DVI (elatex)" convertor. I enabled RTL support in Prefernecs->Language. I can switch languages (although I haven't setup an alternate keyboard for Hebrew -- do I need to? I can't even remember how to swicth keyboards ... ) Anyway, can someone, Dekel?, give me a file with some Hebrew in it especially if it also has two minipages and an english translation in a two column thingy -- nice for a demo. And can you give me a clue as to what I should need to do to get something in the way of output. My attempts so far result in hundreds of latex errors. I'm running short of time so please forgive the lack of RTFM. Thanks, Allan. (ARRae)
Re: IEEETran
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Aaron wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Tuukka Toivonen wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Remzi Seker wrote: I can not seem to find IEEETran under layoutdocumentClass. You have to download the IEEETran.cls (or something) and copy it somewhere under texmf-directory. Then run texhash and Reconfigure from LyX menu. Then you should be able to use it, or at least it worked for me. I copied IEEETran to /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/. I did the texhash thing too, still errors (not there now, sorry not more specific). FWIW, I searched from my TeX base directory and got this: $ find . -name *.cls |grep -i ieee ./TeXLive/texmf/tex/latex/ltxmisc/ieeetrans.cls LyX will not recognize this as IEEETran.cls. It will be considered a different latex class. ./TeXLive/texmf/tex/latex/IEEEtran/IEEEtran_v15.cls if this didn't have the _v15 in its name then LyX would recognise it -- assuming latex can see it. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: IEEETran
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Aaron wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Tuukka Toivonen wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Remzi Seker wrote: I can not seem to find IEEETran under layoutdocumentClass. You have to download the IEEETran.cls (or something) and copy it somewhere under texmf-directory. Then run texhash and Reconfigure from LyX menu. Then you should be able to use it, or at least it worked for me. I copied IEEETran to /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/. I did the texhash thing too, still errors (not there now, sorry not more specific). FWIW, I searched from my TeX base directory and got this: $ find . -name *.cls |grep -i ieee ./TeXLive/texmf/tex/latex/ltxmisc/ieeetrans.cls LyX will not recognize this as IEEETran.cls. It will be considered a different latex class. ./TeXLive/texmf/tex/latex/IEEEtran/IEEEtran_v15.cls if this didn't have the _v15 in its name then LyX would recognise it -- assuming latex can see it. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: IEEETran
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Aaron wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Tuukka Toivonen wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Remzi Seker wrote: > > > > >I can not seem to find IEEETran under layout>document>Class. > > > > You have to download the IEEETran.cls (or something) and > > copy it somewhere under texmf-directory. Then run texhash > > and Reconfigure from LyX menu. > > > > Then you should be able to use it, or at least it worked for me. > > I copied IEEETran to /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/. > > I did the texhash thing too, still errors (not there now, sorry not more > specific). > > FWIW, I searched from my TeX base directory and got this: > > $ find . -name "*.cls" |grep -i ieee > ./TeXLive/texmf/tex/latex/ltxmisc/ieeetrans.cls LyX will not recognize this as IEEETran.cls. It will be considered a different latex class. > ./TeXLive/texmf/tex/latex/IEEEtran/IEEEtran_v15.cls if this didn't have the "_v15" in its name then LyX would recognise it -- assuming latex can see it. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Re: minimizing lyx dialogs minimizes main window too
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Guenter Milde wrote: On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:24:44 +0200 (EET) wrote Tuukka Toivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When I minimize some LyX dialog, LyX main window gets minimized also. I don't want this because then I have Me fool, it's not so. The LyX window *does* stay maximized, but it is moved bottommost among other windows, and that's the reason it disappears when I minimize a dialog: another window that was previously behind the LyX main window becomes above it. And that's IceWM issue, sure. It's not only IceWM but also KDE :-( In KDE, - the dialog window _always_ is on top of the corresponding LyX window, also if the focus is on the main LyX window. - it does not have the maximize/resize and iconize buttons - it does not appear in the task-bar - when I iconize using a keybord short-cut, it moves in the background (not taking LyX with it) but as soon as I give the focus to the main LyX window, it is on top again AFAIK this is a xforms issue. (still could be related to the window not having its own name -- may be the next LyX version could give the dialogs names?) The above list of features are those that your window manager assigns to transient windows. Almost all, if not all, dialogs in LyX are defined to be transient. Yet this is the reason I don't use things like the math-panel and eagerly wait for the KLyX to reappear. Then you will be probably be stuck with modal dialogs if the interface works the way the old KLyX worked. I still don't understand why other programs don't behave similarly. Did you try with any other xforms program? It is not an xforms problem but one of how your window manager treats transient windows. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Re: minimizing lyx dialogs minimizes main window too
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Guenter Milde wrote: On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:24:44 +0200 (EET) wrote Tuukka Toivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When I minimize some LyX dialog, LyX main window gets minimized also. I don't want this because then I have Me fool, it's not so. The LyX window *does* stay maximized, but it is moved bottommost among other windows, and that's the reason it disappears when I minimize a dialog: another window that was previously behind the LyX main window becomes above it. And that's IceWM issue, sure. It's not only IceWM but also KDE :-( In KDE, - the dialog window _always_ is on top of the corresponding LyX window, also if the focus is on the main LyX window. - it does not have the maximize/resize and iconize buttons - it does not appear in the task-bar - when I iconize using a keybord short-cut, it moves in the background (not taking LyX with it) but as soon as I give the focus to the main LyX window, it is on top again AFAIK this is a xforms issue. (still could be related to the window not having its own name -- may be the next LyX version could give the dialogs names?) The above list of features are those that your window manager assigns to transient windows. Almost all, if not all, dialogs in LyX are defined to be transient. Yet this is the reason I don't use things like the math-panel and eagerly wait for the KLyX to reappear. Then you will be probably be stuck with modal dialogs if the interface works the way the old KLyX worked. I still don't understand why other programs don't behave similarly. Did you try with any other xforms program? It is not an xforms problem but one of how your window manager treats transient windows. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Re: minimizing lyx dialogs minimizes main window too
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Guenter Milde wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:24:44 +0200 (EET) wrote Tuukka Toivonen ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >When I minimize some LyX dialog, LyX main window gets > > >minimized also. I don't want this because then I have > > > > Me fool, it's not so. The LyX window *does* stay > > maximized, but it is moved bottommost among other > > windows, and that's the reason it disappears when > > I minimize a dialog: another window that was previously > > behind the LyX main window becomes above it. > > And that's IceWM issue, sure. > > It's not only IceWM but also KDE :-( > > In KDE, > > - the dialog window _always_ is on top of the corresponding LyX window, > also if the focus is on the main LyX window. > - it does not have the maximize/resize and iconize buttons > - it does not appear in the task-bar > - when I iconize using a keybord short-cut, it moves in the background > (not taking LyX with it) but as soon as I give the focus to the main LyX > window, it is on top again > > AFAIK this is a xforms issue. (still could be related to the window not > having its own name -- may be the next LyX version could give the dialogs > names?) The above list of features are those that your window manager assigns to transient windows. Almost all, if not all, dialogs in LyX are defined to be transient. > Yet this is the reason I don't use things like the math-panel and eagerly > wait for the KLyX to reappear. Then you will be probably be stuck with modal dialogs if the interface works the way the old KLyX worked. > > I still don't understand why other programs don't behave similarly. > > Did you try with any other xforms program? It is not an xforms problem but one of how your window manager treats transient windows. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: lyx crash - dual head
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Christopher M. Jones wrote: I have a dual-head setup (no xinerama). The main display is :0.0, the second is :0.1. I can do everything just as always on :0.0. However, on :0.1 I can open lyx but not a document. If I open a document then I get: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) LyX 1.1.6fix3 I asked a question about this before, but nothing got resolved. I let it drop, because nobody seemed to know. But now I am suspecting that there is something subtly amiss with my X setup, and so I would like to determine whether or not this is a lyx problem. I looked into it. I can reproduce it. But I can't fix it. The various data (like fl_display) all appear to be okay but something doesn't like at least one part of the private data in that structure and I have no idea what that part is. A thread sprung up about a debian bug report against the xforms library for this and I provided them whatever data I could but I haven't heard anything further. So at the moment it seems the best option is to only use :0.0 for libforms programs. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: lyx crash - dual head
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Christopher M. Jones wrote: I have a dual-head setup (no xinerama). The main display is :0.0, the second is :0.1. I can do everything just as always on :0.0. However, on :0.1 I can open lyx but not a document. If I open a document then I get: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) LyX 1.1.6fix3 I asked a question about this before, but nothing got resolved. I let it drop, because nobody seemed to know. But now I am suspecting that there is something subtly amiss with my X setup, and so I would like to determine whether or not this is a lyx problem. I looked into it. I can reproduce it. But I can't fix it. The various data (like fl_display) all appear to be okay but something doesn't like at least one part of the private data in that structure and I have no idea what that part is. A thread sprung up about a debian bug report against the xforms library for this and I provided them whatever data I could but I haven't heard anything further. So at the moment it seems the best option is to only use :0.0 for libforms programs. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: lyx crash - dual head
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Christopher M. Jones wrote: > I have a dual-head setup (no xinerama). The main display is :0.0, the second > is :0.1. I can do everything just as always on :0.0. However, on :0.1 I can > open lyx but not a document. If I open a document then I get: > > BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) > > LyX 1.1.6fix3 > > I asked a question about this before, but nothing got resolved. I let it > drop, because nobody seemed to know. But now I am suspecting that there is > something subtly amiss with my X setup, and so I would like to determine > whether or not this is a lyx problem. I looked into it. I can reproduce it. But I can't fix it. The various data (like fl_display) all appear to be okay but something doesn't like at least one part of the private data in that structure and I have no idea what that part is. A thread sprung up about a debian bug report against the xforms library for this and I provided them whatever data I could but I haven't heard anything further. So at the moment it seems the best option is to only use :0.0 for libforms programs. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Side by Side lists
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Herbert Voss wrote: here comes a demo file for 1.1.6 Thanks Herbert for taking over. I got started on a demo file (included full instructions on how to do everything but got distracted). So even though it doesn't answer the final question for Vince I've attached it as other users might want a bit more of a guide on creating and using minipages in 1.1.6 and earlier. Hopefully the rewrite of minipage support in 1.2.0cvs will make minipages as easy as falling off a log :-) Allan. (ARRae) #LyX 1.1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/ \lyxformat 218 \textclass article \language english \inputencoding auto \fontscheme default \graphics default \paperfontsize default \spacing single \papersize Default \paperpackage a4 \use_geometry 0 \use_amsmath 0 \paperorientation portrait \secnumdepth 3 \tocdepth 3 \paragraph_separation indent \defskip medskip \quotes_language english \quotes_times 2 \papercolumns 1 \papersides 1 \paperpagestyle default \layout Standard \pextra_type 2 \pextra_alignment 0 \pextra_widthp 45 The first minipage. For 1.1.6 and earlier you have adjacent minipages begin in separate paragraphs. Just type in what you want to see in each minipage and then select \family sans Layout\SpecialChar \menuseparator Paragraph\SpecialChar \menuseparator Extra \family default and set the checkbox for \family sans Minipage \family default . You also need to set the \family sans width \family default -- say something like \family typewriter 45% \family default . \layout Standard \pextra_type 2 \pextra_alignment 0 \pextra_widthp 45 To extend an existing minipage just start typing after the last paragraph of the existing minipage. Once you've added what you want then select the new paragraphs you want to appear in the minipage and set the \family sans Minipage \family default checkbox in the \family sans Layout\SpecialChar \menuseparator Paragraph\SpecialChar \menuseparator Extra \family default settings. The interface is a little awkward at this point because you must also set a width even though these new paragraphs will become a part of an existing minipage. \layout Standard \pextra_type 2 \pextra_alignment 0 \pextra_widthp 45 In 1.2.0 this is all very different as the minipages are insets (like footnotes and floats are in earlier versions of LyX) and as a result the interface is considerably easier to work with. \layout Standard \pextra_type 2 \pextra_alignment 0 \pextra_hfill 1 \pextra_start_minipage 1 \pextra_widthp 45 \begin_inset Info Just marking where I started the second minipage \end_inset The second minipage. In 1.1.6 you have to start a new minipage by entering a new paragraph and filling in whatever else you want there. A small user interface problem with 1.1.6 and earlier versions of LyX is that you can't see where one minipage ends and another starts if you have consecutive minipages. \layout Standard \pextra_type 2 \pextra_alignment 0 \pextra_hfill 1 \pextra_widthp 45 What I recommend is that you \family sans Insert\SpecialChar \menuseparator Note \family default at the start of your second minipage so you can see within LyX where you set, or at least want, one minipage to end and another begin. To create the second minipage follow the same procedure as was used to create the first. You may also wish to select the \family sans HFill between Minipage paragraphs \family default option which will fill the horizontal space between the two minipages on the printed output pushing the outer edges of the minipages to the margins. For the first paragraph of the second minipage you must also select the \family sans Start new minipage \family default checkbox. \the_end
Re: Side by Side lists
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Herbert Voss wrote: here comes a demo file for 1.1.6 Thanks Herbert for taking over. I got started on a demo file (included full instructions on how to do everything but got distracted). So even though it doesn't answer the final question for Vince I've attached it as other users might want a bit more of a guide on creating and using minipages in 1.1.6 and earlier. Hopefully the rewrite of minipage support in 1.2.0cvs will make minipages as easy as falling off a log :-) Allan. (ARRae) #LyX 1.1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/ \lyxformat 218 \textclass article \language english \inputencoding auto \fontscheme default \graphics default \paperfontsize default \spacing single \papersize Default \paperpackage a4 \use_geometry 0 \use_amsmath 0 \paperorientation portrait \secnumdepth 3 \tocdepth 3 \paragraph_separation indent \defskip medskip \quotes_language english \quotes_times 2 \papercolumns 1 \papersides 1 \paperpagestyle default \layout Standard \pextra_type 2 \pextra_alignment 0 \pextra_widthp 45 The first minipage. For 1.1.6 and earlier you have adjacent minipages begin in separate paragraphs. Just type in what you want to see in each minipage and then select \family sans Layout\SpecialChar \menuseparator Paragraph\SpecialChar \menuseparator Extra \family default and set the checkbox for \family sans Minipage \family default . You also need to set the \family sans width \family default -- say something like \family typewriter 45% \family default . \layout Standard \pextra_type 2 \pextra_alignment 0 \pextra_widthp 45 To extend an existing minipage just start typing after the last paragraph of the existing minipage. Once you've added what you want then select the new paragraphs you want to appear in the minipage and set the \family sans Minipage \family default checkbox in the \family sans Layout\SpecialChar \menuseparator Paragraph\SpecialChar \menuseparator Extra \family default settings. The interface is a little awkward at this point because you must also set a width even though these new paragraphs will become a part of an existing minipage. \layout Standard \pextra_type 2 \pextra_alignment 0 \pextra_widthp 45 In 1.2.0 this is all very different as the minipages are insets (like footnotes and floats are in earlier versions of LyX) and as a result the interface is considerably easier to work with. \layout Standard \pextra_type 2 \pextra_alignment 0 \pextra_hfill 1 \pextra_start_minipage 1 \pextra_widthp 45 \begin_inset Info Just marking where I started the second minipage \end_inset The second minipage. In 1.1.6 you have to start a new minipage by entering a new paragraph and filling in whatever else you want there. A small user interface problem with 1.1.6 and earlier versions of LyX is that you can't see where one minipage ends and another starts if you have consecutive minipages. \layout Standard \pextra_type 2 \pextra_alignment 0 \pextra_hfill 1 \pextra_widthp 45 What I recommend is that you \family sans Insert\SpecialChar \menuseparator Note \family default at the start of your second minipage so you can see within LyX where you set, or at least want, one minipage to end and another begin. To create the second minipage follow the same procedure as was used to create the first. You may also wish to select the \family sans HFill between Minipage paragraphs \family default option which will fill the horizontal space between the two minipages on the printed output pushing the outer edges of the minipages to the margins. For the first paragraph of the second minipage you must also select the \family sans Start new minipage \family default checkbox. \the_end
Re: Side by Side lists
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Herbert Voss wrote: > here comes a demo file for 1.1.6 Thanks Herbert for taking over. I got started on a demo file (included full instructions on how to do everything but got distracted). So even though it doesn't answer the final question for Vince I've attached it as other users might want a bit more of a guide on creating and using minipages in 1.1.6 and earlier. Hopefully the rewrite of minipage support in 1.2.0cvs will make minipages as easy as falling off a log :-) Allan. (ARRae) #LyX 1.1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/ \lyxformat 218 \textclass article \language english \inputencoding auto \fontscheme default \graphics default \paperfontsize default \spacing single \papersize Default \paperpackage a4 \use_geometry 0 \use_amsmath 0 \paperorientation portrait \secnumdepth 3 \tocdepth 3 \paragraph_separation indent \defskip medskip \quotes_language english \quotes_times 2 \papercolumns 1 \papersides 1 \paperpagestyle default \layout Standard \pextra_type 2 \pextra_alignment 0 \pextra_widthp 45 The first minipage. For 1.1.6 and earlier you have adjacent minipages begin in separate paragraphs. Just type in what you want to see in each minipage and then select \family sans Layout\SpecialChar \menuseparator Paragraph\SpecialChar \menuseparator Extra \family default and set the checkbox for \family sans Minipage \family default . You also need to set the \family sans width \family default -- say something like \family typewriter 45% \family default . \layout Standard \pextra_type 2 \pextra_alignment 0 \pextra_widthp 45 To extend an existing minipage just start typing after the last paragraph of the existing minipage. Once you've added what you want then select the new paragraphs you want to appear in the minipage and set the \family sans Minipage \family default checkbox in the \family sans Layout\SpecialChar \menuseparator Paragraph\SpecialChar \menuseparator Extra \family default settings. The interface is a little awkward at this point because you must also set a width even though these new paragraphs will become a part of an existing minipage. \layout Standard \pextra_type 2 \pextra_alignment 0 \pextra_widthp 45 In 1.2.0 this is all very different as the minipages are insets (like footnotes and floats are in earlier versions of LyX) and as a result the interface is considerably easier to work with. \layout Standard \pextra_type 2 \pextra_alignment 0 \pextra_hfill 1 \pextra_start_minipage 1 \pextra_widthp 45 \begin_inset Info Just marking where I started the second minipage \end_inset The second minipage. In 1.1.6 you have to start a new minipage by entering a new paragraph and filling in whatever else you want there. A small user interface problem with 1.1.6 and earlier versions of LyX is that you can't see where one minipage ends and another starts if you have consecutive minipages. \layout Standard \pextra_type 2 \pextra_alignment 0 \pextra_hfill 1 \pextra_widthp 45 What I recommend is that you \family sans Insert\SpecialChar \menuseparator Note \family default at the start of your second minipage so you can see within LyX where you set, or at least want, one minipage to end and another begin. To create the second minipage follow the same procedure as was used to create the first. You may also wish to select the \family sans HFill between Minipage paragraphs \family default option which will fill the horizontal space between the two minipages on the printed output pushing the outer edges of the minipages to the margins. For the first paragraph of the second minipage you must also select the \family sans Start new minipage \family default checkbox. \the_end
Re: Side by Side lists
Insert two minipages next to each other. Do not press enter between the two or you will start a new paragraph and the two minipages will appear one under the other. Adjust the minipage width settings by right-mouse-button clicking on the [minipage] inset label. If you want to make the minipages look spaced evenly you might try Insert-Special_character-HFill between the two minipages (and possibly on both sides. The key trick though is to ensure they are in the same paragraph. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Side by Side lists
Insert two minipages next to each other. Do not press enter between the two or you will start a new paragraph and the two minipages will appear one under the other. Adjust the minipage width settings by right-mouse-button clicking on the [minipage] inset label. If you want to make the minipages look spaced evenly you might try Insert-Special_character-HFill between the two minipages (and possibly on both sides. The key trick though is to ensure they are in the same paragraph. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Side by Side lists
Insert two minipages next to each other. Do not press enter between the two or you will start a new paragraph and the two minipages will appear one under the other. Adjust the minipage width settings by right-mouse-button clicking on the [minipage] inset label. If you want to make the minipages look spaced evenly you might try Insert->Special_character->HFill between the two minipages (and possibly on both sides. The key trick though is to ensure they are in the same paragraph. Allan. (ARRae)
Re: LyX in FreeBSD
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, J.S. wrote: Has anyone experienced the following problems with LyX in FreeBSD? The people behind LyX mailinglist apparently aren't interested in backing us newbies up. You mustn't have received the couple of questions asking if you were referring to PDF export or your original questions were solely about running latex (to generate a dvi or ps). Are/were you subscribed? Which formats are you having trouble exporting to? Does View-DVI work or not? (This uses latex not pdflatex and should work unless your latex installation is broken -- we have a couple of FreeBSD users including one using 4.5cvs and they haven't reported any problems as vague as this report) 1. Problem exporting to most of the available formats when .EPS imagages are present. eps images are mainly only handled by latex as in the command latex. eps images are not supported by pdflatex so exporting to pdf via pdflatex won't work. I'm not sure what version you are using so I will guess that it is the current stable: 1.1.6fix3 -- BTW, (that's short for By The Way, BTW) 1.1.6fix4 was released yesterday. So if you want to build a pdf using eps figures and pdflatex you should manually convert the eps to pdf using epstopdf -- should be bundled in your tetex installation (with the pdflatex stuff). Then in the LyX file remove the extension from the filename of the figure. You might also want to disable figure rendering for that figure (click on the figure with your left mouse button, in the dialog that appears change Display-Do_not_show_this_figure to be unchecked). 2. Difficulty in getting LyX to recognize your X fonts, as well as difficulty defining custom fonts for i.e. headlines. Our resident LaTeX/LyX help Guru, Herbert Voss, responded to you, but only to the list I believe, saying you would need to enter some additional latex commands in the preamble to redefine what the document would use for, say Roman, if it wasn't available on the hardcoded list shown in Layout-Document-Document-Fonts. An example of those commands can be found either by searching the mailing list archive at: http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/ or in the tips and tricks pages at: http://www.lyx.org/help/fonts/fonts.php3 The instructions there can be adapted to whatever fonts packages you want. If that isn't sufficient a clear description of what you hope to achieve can usually obtain a speedy answer if posted to the list. Weedends are usually quiet though. BTW, if you aren't subscribed it is best to say so in your mail so people answering know to send to you as well as to the list. (I'm not on the freebsd-questions list for example but since this is cross-posted I would hope responders from that list would also reply to the lyx-users list which I subscribed to without needing prompting) As for the X fonts perhaps you be a bit more explicit. What fonts are you trying to use? And how have you tried to set them? Eg. what did you set Edit-Preferences-LookFeel-Screen_Fonts-Roman etc. to? Be aware that the contents of the Encoding field on that tab are used when trying load the Roman etc. fonts so if the encoding doesn't match you won't get to use it. If anyone knows what I might do here, I'd really appreciate it. If all else fails read the manual or search through the very extensive tips and tricks collection available at: http://www.lyx.org/help/index.php3 Allan. (ARRae)
Re: LyX in FreeBSD
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, J.S. wrote: Has anyone experienced the following problems with LyX in FreeBSD? The people behind LyX mailinglist apparently aren't interested in backing us newbies up. You mustn't have received the couple of questions asking if you were referring to PDF export or your original questions were solely about running latex (to generate a dvi or ps). Are/were you subscribed? Which formats are you having trouble exporting to? Does View-DVI work or not? (This uses latex not pdflatex and should work unless your latex installation is broken -- we have a couple of FreeBSD users including one using 4.5cvs and they haven't reported any problems as vague as this report) 1. Problem exporting to most of the available formats when .EPS imagages are present. eps images are mainly only handled by latex as in the command latex. eps images are not supported by pdflatex so exporting to pdf via pdflatex won't work. I'm not sure what version you are using so I will guess that it is the current stable: 1.1.6fix3 -- BTW, (that's short for By The Way, BTW) 1.1.6fix4 was released yesterday. So if you want to build a pdf using eps figures and pdflatex you should manually convert the eps to pdf using epstopdf -- should be bundled in your tetex installation (with the pdflatex stuff). Then in the LyX file remove the extension from the filename of the figure. You might also want to disable figure rendering for that figure (click on the figure with your left mouse button, in the dialog that appears change Display-Do_not_show_this_figure to be unchecked). 2. Difficulty in getting LyX to recognize your X fonts, as well as difficulty defining custom fonts for i.e. headlines. Our resident LaTeX/LyX help Guru, Herbert Voss, responded to you, but only to the list I believe, saying you would need to enter some additional latex commands in the preamble to redefine what the document would use for, say Roman, if it wasn't available on the hardcoded list shown in Layout-Document-Document-Fonts. An example of those commands can be found either by searching the mailing list archive at: http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/ or in the tips and tricks pages at: http://www.lyx.org/help/fonts/fonts.php3 The instructions there can be adapted to whatever fonts packages you want. If that isn't sufficient a clear description of what you hope to achieve can usually obtain a speedy answer if posted to the list. Weedends are usually quiet though. BTW, if you aren't subscribed it is best to say so in your mail so people answering know to send to you as well as to the list. (I'm not on the freebsd-questions list for example but since this is cross-posted I would hope responders from that list would also reply to the lyx-users list which I subscribed to without needing prompting) As for the X fonts perhaps you be a bit more explicit. What fonts are you trying to use? And how have you tried to set them? Eg. what did you set Edit-Preferences-LookFeel-Screen_Fonts-Roman etc. to? Be aware that the contents of the Encoding field on that tab are used when trying load the Roman etc. fonts so if the encoding doesn't match you won't get to use it. If anyone knows what I might do here, I'd really appreciate it. If all else fails read the manual or search through the very extensive tips and tricks collection available at: http://www.lyx.org/help/index.php3 Allan. (ARRae)
Re: LyX in FreeBSD
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, J.S. wrote: > Has anyone experienced the following problems with LyX in FreeBSD? > The people behind LyX mailinglist apparently aren't interested in backing > us newbies up. You mustn't have received the couple of questions asking if you were referring to PDF export or your original questions were solely about running latex (to generate a dvi or ps). Are/were you subscribed? Which formats are you having trouble exporting to? Does View->DVI work or not? (This uses "latex" not "pdflatex" and should work unless your latex installation is broken -- we have a couple of FreeBSD users including one using 4.5cvs and they haven't reported any problems as vague as this report) > 1. Problem exporting to most of the available formats when .EPS imagages > are present. eps images are mainly only handled by "latex" as in the command "latex". eps images are not supported by "pdflatex" so exporting to pdf via pdflatex won't work. I'm not sure what version you are using so I will guess that it is the current stable: 1.1.6fix3 -- BTW, (that's short for By The Way, BTW) 1.1.6fix4 was released yesterday. So if you want to build a pdf using eps figures and pdflatex you should manually convert the eps to pdf using "epstopdf" -- should be bundled in your tetex installation (with the pdflatex stuff). Then in the LyX file remove the extension from the filename of the figure. You might also want to disable figure rendering for that figure (click on the figure with your left mouse button, in the dialog that appears change Display->Do_not_show_this_figure to be unchecked). > 2. Difficulty in getting LyX to recognize your X fonts, as well as > difficulty defining custom fonts for i.e. headlines. Our resident LaTeX/LyX help Guru, Herbert Voss, responded to you, but only to the list I believe, saying you would need to enter some additional latex commands in the preamble to redefine what the document would use for, say Roman, if it wasn't available on the hardcoded list shown in Layout->Document->Document->Fonts. An example of those commands can be found either by searching the mailing list archive at: http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/ or in the tips and tricks pages at: http://www.lyx.org/help/fonts/fonts.php3 The instructions there can be adapted to whatever fonts packages you want. If that isn't sufficient a clear description of what you hope to achieve can usually obtain a speedy answer if posted to the list. Weedends are usually quiet though. BTW, if you aren't subscribed it is best to say so in your mail so people answering know to send to you as well as to the list. (I'm not on the freebsd-questions list for example but since this is cross-posted I would hope responders from that list would also reply to the lyx-users list which I subscribed to without needing prompting) As for the X fonts perhaps you be a bit more explicit. What fonts are you trying to use? And how have you tried to set them? Eg. what did you set Edit->Preferences->Look>Screen_Fonts->Roman etc. to? Be aware that the contents of the Encoding field on that tab are used when trying load the Roman etc. fonts so if the encoding doesn't match you won't get to use it. > If anyone knows what I might do here, I'd really appreciate it. If all else fails read the manual or search through the very extensive tips and tricks collection available at: http://www.lyx.org/help/index.php3 Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Viewing output from Lyx frequently locks system
On 9 Jan 2002, Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Wed, 2002-01-09 at 13:19, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Sounds like a bug of the X server. I would tend to agree, but this is the only application one the system that results in this behavior. [...version info etc. ...] Apart from me having a Mandrake 8.0 install with a G450 in Xinerama mode with XFree-4.03 we have reasonably similar installations. I haven't seen anything like what you describe... as my WM and almost always have a VMWare session running. ...but then I don't run VMWare either. Does it still lockup if you don't have VMWare running? Does it lockup if you use WindowMaker instead of BlackBox? What are your settings in Preferences-Convertors-Formats for viewing PostScript and PDF? On a slightly different topic: Have you ever had both screens come up light grey at bootup and the machine be locked up? Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Viewing output from Lyx frequently locks system
On 9 Jan 2002, Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Wed, 2002-01-09 at 21:39, Allan Rae wrote: Apart from me having a Mandrake 8.0 install with a G450 in Xinerama mode with XFree-4.03 we have reasonably similar installations. I haven't seen anything like what you describe... as my WM and almost always have a VMWare session running. ...but then I don't run VMWare either. Those are some pretty significant changes. The G450 and the G400 card are very different. There are also very significant changes between XFree86 v4.0.3 and v4.1.0. Perhaps you've never experienced Australian understatement before? Anyway, whatever other things you can find or test will help figure out what is broken. BTW, you seem to be implying that the lockup is interrmittent? Is this true? Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Viewing output from Lyx frequently locks system
On 9 Jan 2002, Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Wed, 2002-01-09 at 13:19, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Sounds like a bug of the X server. I would tend to agree, but this is the only application one the system that results in this behavior. [...version info etc. ...] Apart from me having a Mandrake 8.0 install with a G450 in Xinerama mode with XFree-4.03 we have reasonably similar installations. I haven't seen anything like what you describe... as my WM and almost always have a VMWare session running. ...but then I don't run VMWare either. Does it still lockup if you don't have VMWare running? Does it lockup if you use WindowMaker instead of BlackBox? What are your settings in Preferences-Convertors-Formats for viewing PostScript and PDF? On a slightly different topic: Have you ever had both screens come up light grey at bootup and the machine be locked up? Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Viewing output from Lyx frequently locks system
On 9 Jan 2002, Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Wed, 2002-01-09 at 21:39, Allan Rae wrote: Apart from me having a Mandrake 8.0 install with a G450 in Xinerama mode with XFree-4.03 we have reasonably similar installations. I haven't seen anything like what you describe... as my WM and almost always have a VMWare session running. ...but then I don't run VMWare either. Those are some pretty significant changes. The G450 and the G400 card are very different. There are also very significant changes between XFree86 v4.0.3 and v4.1.0. Perhaps you've never experienced Australian understatement before? Anyway, whatever other things you can find or test will help figure out what is broken. BTW, you seem to be implying that the lockup is interrmittent? Is this true? Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Viewing output from Lyx frequently locks system
On 9 Jan 2002, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > On Wed, 2002-01-09 at 13:19, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > Sounds like a bug of the X server. > > I would tend to agree, but this is the only application one the system > that results in this behavior. [...version info etc. ...] Apart from me having a Mandrake 8.0 install with a G450 in Xinerama mode with XFree-4.03 we have reasonably similar installations. I haven't seen anything like what you describe... > as my WM and almost always have a VMWare session running. ...but then I don't run VMWare either. Does it still lockup if you don't have VMWare running? Does it lockup if you use WindowMaker instead of BlackBox? What are your settings in Preferences->Convertors->Formats for viewing PostScript and PDF? On a slightly different topic: Have you ever had both screens come up light grey at bootup and the machine be locked up? Allan. (ARRae)
Re: Viewing output from Lyx frequently locks system
On 9 Jan 2002, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > On Wed, 2002-01-09 at 21:39, Allan Rae wrote: > > Apart from me having a Mandrake 8.0 install with a G450 in Xinerama > > mode with XFree-4.03 we have reasonably similar installations. I > > haven't seen anything like what you describe... > > > > > as my WM and almost always have a VMWare session running. > > > > ...but then I don't run VMWare either. > > Those are some pretty significant changes. The G450 and the G400 card > are very different. There are also very significant changes between > XFree86 v4.0.3 and v4.1.0. Perhaps you've never experienced Australian understatement before? Anyway, whatever other things you can find or test will help figure out what is broken. BTW, you seem to be implying that the lockup is interrmittent? Is this true? Allan. (ARRae)
Re: KLyX -- am I missing something?
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, John Levon wrote: On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 03:34:55PM -0500, Matej Cepl wrote: Is this poor prospect true even for us, who are using GNOME? I would love to get rid off xforms too. How long do you think, that we should wait for it? The Gnome frontend is far behind the Qt2 one at the moment. You can still use the Qt2 version under gnome don't forget. We need more developers ! Or at least one or two that have a commitment to seeing a GNOME frontend. There is a strange historical truism developing here: gtk and GNOME requests have been about as common as Qt/KDE requests but we've never had anywhere near as many people interested in actually working on the gtk/GNOME frontend as we have for Qt/KDE. Speculation: GNOME is about as popular as KDE on LyX users desktops. LyX KDE are written in C++ while GNOME is C with the result that gtk/GNOME developers capable of working in a C++ environment are rarer still. There are several C++ GNOME apps available but they still represent a small fraction of the developer community. (Not that they really need that much C++ to work in the frontends/ area since a lot of the work is done for them as a result of Angus's MVC work) Result: Little or no hope for the gtk/GNOME frontend? Allan. (ARRae)