Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?
On 2 July 2010 20:16, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote: Le 2 juil. 10 à 18:44, Dotan Cohen a écrit : I have not been using Lyx as most of my documents are in an Right-to-Left (RTL) language or at a minimum contain some RTL text. Is RTL support planned for 2.x? I know that it was possible in Lyx 1 but it was a pain. Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch and filing bugs. Thanks. RtL is supposed to be supported in 1.x and there is not much that is planned beyond that AFAIK. It would help if you could be more specific about what makes current support not usable. I don't really remember, it was some time ago. I will play with the 2.x code and ask here or file issues as I see need. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com
Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?
On 3 July 2010 09:47, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch and filing bugs. Thanks. I have no experience with RTL, but have you tried Tools Preferences Language settings RTL support? Liviu I will be sure to enable that, thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com
Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?
I see that there is definitely RTL support, the Lyx interface and default document were in Hebrew for me! However, when I start a new document and type in Hebrew, each individual word looks fine (the order of the letters in a word are correctly RTL) but the words themselves are incorrectly ordered LTR (the first word on the left, the last word on the right). Also, the punctuation at the end of the sentence is incorrectly on the right. I have gone through the options and read through these documents but I cannot figure out what I must do: http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/HebrewOnLinux http://sites.google.com/site/avivgoll/articles/hebrewenabledlyxonubuntu904 Note that the F12 script on the second link has no effect for me. I am on Kubuntu 9.10 using Lyx 2.0.0svn (built today). Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com
Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?
On 2 July 2010 20:16, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote: Le 2 juil. 10 à 18:44, Dotan Cohen a écrit : I have not been using Lyx as most of my documents are in an Right-to-Left (RTL) language or at a minimum contain some RTL text. Is RTL support planned for 2.x? I know that it was possible in Lyx 1 but it was a pain. Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch and filing bugs. Thanks. RtL is supposed to be supported in 1.x and there is not much that is planned beyond that AFAIK. It would help if you could be more specific about what makes current support not usable. I don't really remember, it was some time ago. I will play with the 2.x code and ask here or file issues as I see need. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com
Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?
On 3 July 2010 09:47, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch and filing bugs. Thanks. I have no experience with RTL, but have you tried Tools Preferences Language settings RTL support? Liviu I will be sure to enable that, thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com
Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?
I see that there is definitely RTL support, the Lyx interface and default document were in Hebrew for me! However, when I start a new document and type in Hebrew, each individual word looks fine (the order of the letters in a word are correctly RTL) but the words themselves are incorrectly ordered LTR (the first word on the left, the last word on the right). Also, the punctuation at the end of the sentence is incorrectly on the right. I have gone through the options and read through these documents but I cannot figure out what I must do: http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/HebrewOnLinux http://sites.google.com/site/avivgoll/articles/hebrewenabledlyxonubuntu904 Note that the F12 script on the second link has no effect for me. I am on Kubuntu 9.10 using Lyx 2.0.0svn (built today). Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com
Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?
On 2 July 2010 20:16, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <lasgout...@lyx.org> wrote: > Le 2 juil. 10 à 18:44, Dotan Cohen a écrit : >> >> I have not been using Lyx as most of my documents are in an >> Right-to-Left (RTL) language or at a minimum contain some RTL text. Is >> RTL support planned for 2.x? I know that it was possible in Lyx 1 but >> it was a pain. >> >> Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch >> and filing bugs. Thanks. > > RtL is supposed to be supported in 1.x and there is not much that is planned > beyond that AFAIK. It would help if you could be more specific about what > makes current support not usable. > I don't really remember, it was some time ago. I will play with the 2.x code and ask here or file issues as I see need. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com
Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?
On 3 July 2010 09:47, Liviu Andronic <landronim...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Dotan Cohen <dotanco...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch >> and filing bugs. Thanks. >> > I have no experience with RTL, but have you tried Tools > Preferences >> Language settings > RTL support? > Liviu > I will be sure to enable that, thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com
Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?
I see that there is definitely RTL support, the Lyx interface and default document were in Hebrew for me! However, when I start a new document and type in Hebrew, each individual word looks fine (the order of the letters in a word are correctly RTL) but the words themselves are incorrectly ordered LTR (the first word on the left, the last word on the right). Also, the punctuation at the "end" of the sentence is incorrectly on the right. I have gone through the options and read through these documents but I cannot figure out what I must do: http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/HebrewOnLinux http://sites.google.com/site/avivgoll/articles/hebrewenabledlyxonubuntu904 Note that the F12 script on the second link has no effect for me. I am on Kubuntu 9.10 using Lyx 2.0.0svn (built today). Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com
Is RTL a goal for 2.x?
I have not been using Lyx as most of my documents are in an Right-to-Left (RTL) language or at a minimum contain some RTL text. Is RTL support planned for 2.x? I know that it was possible in Lyx 1 but it was a pain. Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch and filing bugs. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com
Is RTL a goal for 2.x?
I have not been using Lyx as most of my documents are in an Right-to-Left (RTL) language or at a minimum contain some RTL text. Is RTL support planned for 2.x? I know that it was possible in Lyx 1 but it was a pain. Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch and filing bugs. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com
Is RTL a goal for 2.x?
I have not been using Lyx as most of my documents are in an Right-to-Left (RTL) language or at a minimum contain some RTL text. Is RTL support planned for 2.x? I know that it was possible in Lyx 1 but it was a pain. Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch and filing bugs. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com
Re: Formatting numbered equations
I have always understood this as: American English: A, B, and C British English: A, B and C -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Formatting numbered equations
The meal consisted of soup, salad, and macaroni and cheese. The meal consisted of macaroni and cheese, soup, and salad. Or, if the order is important: The meal consisted of soup, salad, and macaroni cheese. To my parents, Ayn Rand and God. To Ayn Rand, my parents, and God. Or, if the order is important: To my parents, Ayn Rand and to God. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Formatting numbered equations
On 20 April 2010 17:12, Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 01:57:13PM +, Paul Rubin wrote: AFAIK A, B and C is the predominant usage in the U.S. (where, given the state of our educational system, we're lucky if we get the first comma). That's what I was taught (in New York) (after the American Revolution). Can't speak for the Brits, but perhaps they use the second comma. They certainly seem fond of extra vowels. My Gowers edition of Fowler discusses this. Fowler seems to think that the main point is to avoid ambiguity, so that you normally punctuate A, B and C, but need a comma in some cases. The text concedes, however, that some people prefer to put the comma every time, for consistency, since it's sometimes needed to avoid ambiguity. This appears to be left as a matter of taste. (The reason not to do it, of course, is that in an enumeration the comma really stands for and, so to add a comma before the and would be otiose.) Examples of ambiguity (again from Fowler): Tenders were submitted by John Brown, Cammel Laird, Vickers, and Harland and Wolff. Without the comma after Vickers, you wouldn't know that the last firm to submit was Harland and Wolff. The smooth grey of the beech stem, the silky texture of the birch, and the rugged pine. Here, without the comma after birch, it would read as though both the birch and the rugged pine have a silky texture. If you think that the ambiguous cases like those above are common enough, and you want a consistent rule, then you should put the comma after B. Otherwise, you should only use the comma when you actually need it (and A, B and C would be the right way in that case). Isn't it nice to have rules that start with it depends? A These are contrived examples. In every case the writer could reword the sentence to remove the ambiguity, as I demonstrated in an earlier post. The problem is not the commas, the problem is the desire to find ambiguity and then to place blame. It is childish, authors who engage in such practices are not wise for their ability to convey meaning, they are wise for their ability to draw attention to their own egos. A similar example for capitalization: I once helped my uncle Jack off a horse. I once helped my uncle jack off a horse. Or for pronunciation: He asked for a new display. He asked far a nudist play. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Formatting numbered equations
On 20 April 2010 18:17, Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 06:06:57PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: These are contrived examples. I'm pretty sure that all the examples in Fowler are not contrived examples: they're real ones from real texts. And it's not as though Fowler wasn't pretty keen on clarity and elegance in prose. If not contrived, then cherry-picked. Comma usage is no different than any other tool in writing: sometimes the author is presented with a corner case and must either risk ambiguity or revise his phrasing. In every case the writer could reword the sentence to remove the ambiguity, as I demonstrated in an earlier post. Sure, you can always rewrite a sentence in a way less idiomatic in order to avoid the problem. Alternatively, you could do the sensible thing and use a comma to avoid ambiguity in an otherwise perfectly normal English idiom. Which of the two choices is the sensible one depends on the situation. I agree that proper usage of the commas could often be the sensible choice. Enumerations are ubiquitous, and it's not unusual for items to be enumerated already to have embedded conjunctions. I do not find it unusual. Rather, I find that many authors (or writers, or journalists, or bloggers) do not take the time to proofread for ambiguity. It borders on the irresponsible. The problem is not the commas, the problem is the desire to find ambiguity and then to place blame. I don't see who it is that's supposed to be placing blame here. Those who insist that there is a problem with the rules of grammar. The literature should not present the situation as a problem, rather, unambiguity and methods to deal with ambiguity should be taught. A similar example for capitalization: No, these are not similar to the obviously common case of having conjunctions in the names of firms, in the way we refer to couples, and so on. Correct. They are similar in the sense that they are examples of ambiguity which could be eliminated by a simple rephrasing of the content. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com
Re: Formatting numbered equations
I have always understood this as: American English: A, B, and C British English: A, B and C -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Formatting numbered equations
The meal consisted of soup, salad, and macaroni and cheese. The meal consisted of macaroni and cheese, soup, and salad. Or, if the order is important: The meal consisted of soup, salad, and macaroni cheese. To my parents, Ayn Rand and God. To Ayn Rand, my parents, and God. Or, if the order is important: To my parents, Ayn Rand and to God. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Formatting numbered equations
On 20 April 2010 17:12, Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 01:57:13PM +, Paul Rubin wrote: AFAIK A, B and C is the predominant usage in the U.S. (where, given the state of our educational system, we're lucky if we get the first comma). That's what I was taught (in New York) (after the American Revolution). Can't speak for the Brits, but perhaps they use the second comma. They certainly seem fond of extra vowels. My Gowers edition of Fowler discusses this. Fowler seems to think that the main point is to avoid ambiguity, so that you normally punctuate A, B and C, but need a comma in some cases. The text concedes, however, that some people prefer to put the comma every time, for consistency, since it's sometimes needed to avoid ambiguity. This appears to be left as a matter of taste. (The reason not to do it, of course, is that in an enumeration the comma really stands for and, so to add a comma before the and would be otiose.) Examples of ambiguity (again from Fowler): Tenders were submitted by John Brown, Cammel Laird, Vickers, and Harland and Wolff. Without the comma after Vickers, you wouldn't know that the last firm to submit was Harland and Wolff. The smooth grey of the beech stem, the silky texture of the birch, and the rugged pine. Here, without the comma after birch, it would read as though both the birch and the rugged pine have a silky texture. If you think that the ambiguous cases like those above are common enough, and you want a consistent rule, then you should put the comma after B. Otherwise, you should only use the comma when you actually need it (and A, B and C would be the right way in that case). Isn't it nice to have rules that start with it depends? A These are contrived examples. In every case the writer could reword the sentence to remove the ambiguity, as I demonstrated in an earlier post. The problem is not the commas, the problem is the desire to find ambiguity and then to place blame. It is childish, authors who engage in such practices are not wise for their ability to convey meaning, they are wise for their ability to draw attention to their own egos. A similar example for capitalization: I once helped my uncle Jack off a horse. I once helped my uncle jack off a horse. Or for pronunciation: He asked for a new display. He asked far a nudist play. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Formatting numbered equations
On 20 April 2010 18:17, Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 06:06:57PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: These are contrived examples. I'm pretty sure that all the examples in Fowler are not contrived examples: they're real ones from real texts. And it's not as though Fowler wasn't pretty keen on clarity and elegance in prose. If not contrived, then cherry-picked. Comma usage is no different than any other tool in writing: sometimes the author is presented with a corner case and must either risk ambiguity or revise his phrasing. In every case the writer could reword the sentence to remove the ambiguity, as I demonstrated in an earlier post. Sure, you can always rewrite a sentence in a way less idiomatic in order to avoid the problem. Alternatively, you could do the sensible thing and use a comma to avoid ambiguity in an otherwise perfectly normal English idiom. Which of the two choices is the sensible one depends on the situation. I agree that proper usage of the commas could often be the sensible choice. Enumerations are ubiquitous, and it's not unusual for items to be enumerated already to have embedded conjunctions. I do not find it unusual. Rather, I find that many authors (or writers, or journalists, or bloggers) do not take the time to proofread for ambiguity. It borders on the irresponsible. The problem is not the commas, the problem is the desire to find ambiguity and then to place blame. I don't see who it is that's supposed to be placing blame here. Those who insist that there is a problem with the rules of grammar. The literature should not present the situation as a problem, rather, unambiguity and methods to deal with ambiguity should be taught. A similar example for capitalization: No, these are not similar to the obviously common case of having conjunctions in the names of firms, in the way we refer to couples, and so on. Correct. They are similar in the sense that they are examples of ambiguity which could be eliminated by a simple rephrasing of the content. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com
Re: Formatting numbered equations
I have always understood this as: American English: A, B, and C British English: A, B and C -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Formatting numbered equations
> "The meal consisted of soup, salad, and macaroni and cheese." "The meal consisted of macaroni and cheese, soup, and salad." Or, if the order is important: "The meal consisted of soup, salad, and macaroni & cheese." > "To my parents, Ayn Rand and God." "To Ayn Rand, my parents, and God." Or, if the order is important: "To my parents, Ayn Rand and to God." -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Formatting numbered equations
On 20 April 2010 17:12, Andrew Sullivan <a...@shinkuro.com> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 01:57:13PM +, Paul Rubin wrote: >> AFAIK "A, B and C" is the predominant usage in the U.S. (where, given the >> state >> of our educational system, we're lucky if we get the first comma). That's >> what I >> was taught (in New York) (after the American Revolution). Can't speak for >> the >> Brits, but perhaps they use the second comma. They certainly seem fond of >> extra >> vowels. > > My Gowers edition of Fowler discusses this. Fowler seems to think > that the main point is to avoid ambiguity, so that you normally > punctuate "A, B and C", but need a comma in some cases. The text > concedes, however, that some people prefer to put the comma every > time, for consistency, since it's sometimes needed to avoid ambiguity. > This appears to be left as a matter of taste. (The reason not to do > it, of course, is that in an enumeration the comma really stands for > "and", so to add a comma before the "and" would be otiose.) > > Examples of ambiguity (again from Fowler): > > "Tenders were submitted by John Brown, Cammel Laird, Vickers, and > Harland and Wolff." Without the comma after Vickers, you wouldn't > know that the last firm to submit was "Harland and Wolff". > > "The smooth grey of the beech stem, the silky texture of the birch, > and the rugged pine." Here, without the comma after birch, it would > read as though both the birch and the rugged pine have a silky > texture. > > If you think that the ambiguous cases like those above are common > enough, and you want a consistent rule, then you should put the comma > after B. Otherwise, you should only use the comma when you actually > need it (and A, B and C would be the right way in that case). Isn't > it nice to have rules that start with "it depends"? > > A These are contrived examples. In every case the writer could reword the sentence to remove the ambiguity, as I demonstrated in an earlier post. The problem is not the commas, the problem is the desire to find ambiguity and then to place blame. It is childish, authors who engage in such practices are not wise for their ability to convey meaning, they are wise for their ability to draw attention to their own egos. A similar example for capitalization: I once helped my uncle Jack off a horse. I once helped my uncle jack off a horse. Or for pronunciation: He asked for a new display. He asked far a nudist play. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Formatting numbered equations
On 20 April 2010 18:17, Andrew Sullivan <a...@shinkuro.com> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 06:06:57PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> These are contrived examples. > > I'm pretty sure that all the examples in Fowler are not contrived > examples: they're real ones from real texts. And it's not as though > Fowler wasn't pretty keen on clarity and elegance in prose. > If not contrived, then cherry-picked. Comma usage is no different than any other tool in writing: sometimes the author is presented with a corner case and must either risk ambiguity or revise his phrasing. >> In every case the writer could reword >> the sentence to remove the ambiguity, as I demonstrated in an earlier >> post. > > Sure, you can always rewrite a sentence in a way less idiomatic in > order to avoid the problem. Alternatively, you could do the sensible > thing and use a comma to avoid ambiguity in an otherwise perfectly > normal English idiom. Which of the two choices is the sensible one depends on the situation. I agree that proper usage of the commas could often be the sensible choice. > Enumerations are ubiquitous, and it's not > unusual for items to be enumerated already to have embedded > conjunctions. > I do not find it unusual. Rather, I find that many authors (or writers, or journalists, or bloggers) do not take the time to proofread for ambiguity. It borders on the irresponsible. >> The problem is not the commas, the problem is the desire to find >> ambiguity and then to place blame. > > I don't see who it is that's supposed to be placing blame here. > Those who insist that there is a problem with the rules of grammar. The literature should not present the situation as a problem, rather, unambiguity and methods to deal with ambiguity should be taught. >> A similar example for capitalization: > > No, these are not similar to the obviously common case of having > conjunctions in the names of firms, in the way we refer to couples, > and so on. Correct. They are similar in the sense that they are examples of ambiguity which could be eliminated by a simple rephrasing of the content. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com
Re: things that I miss in lyx
3- I hate to do keyboard combos. they are bad for rsi and slower overall. Autocapitalization would save thousands of those a month. Use your window manager's sticky keys feature then. It should be found under accessibility. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com
Re: things that I miss in lyx
3- I hate to do keyboard combos. they are bad for rsi and slower overall. Autocapitalization would save thousands of those a month. Use your window manager's sticky keys feature then. It should be found under accessibility. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com
Re: things that I miss in lyx
> 3- I hate to do keyboard combos. they are bad for rsi and slower overall. > Autocapitalization would save thousands of those a month. > Use your window manager's sticky keys feature then. It should be found under accessibility. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com
Re: Force RTL onscreen rendering for paragraph or character style?
On 19 March 2010 22:25, Philiрp Rеichmuth phil.ipp.reich.m...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, is there a way to force the onscreen rendering for the text contained in a given character or paragraphy style to be right-to-left? Ideally some kind of command within the InsetLayout or Style groups in the layout options? Background: I use XeTeX to typeset a document in several scripts, including Arabic. The Arabic-script sections are not in the Arabic language, but in a variety of other languages. Because my document is left-to-right, they get displayed on screen in LTR order, which is wrong. I can get them to display in RTL by setting their language to Arabic (ArabTeX or Arabi). In both cases, LyX displays them right-to-left, but these options are both ncompatible with XeTeX because they make other assumptions on how to render the text in the final output. Ideally, I wouldn't have to mark them as in a different language at all - there are no benefits other than the writing direction. I use logical markup and custom styles anyway for these passages, so I'd just like to mark all instances of a given style to display RTL in LyX. Is that possible, or is there some workaround? Philipp Have you tried the Unicode RLM character: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/200f/index.htm -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Force RTL onscreen rendering for paragraph or character style?
On 19 March 2010 22:25, Philiрp Rеichmuth phil.ipp.reich.m...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, is there a way to force the onscreen rendering for the text contained in a given character or paragraphy style to be right-to-left? Ideally some kind of command within the InsetLayout or Style groups in the layout options? Background: I use XeTeX to typeset a document in several scripts, including Arabic. The Arabic-script sections are not in the Arabic language, but in a variety of other languages. Because my document is left-to-right, they get displayed on screen in LTR order, which is wrong. I can get them to display in RTL by setting their language to Arabic (ArabTeX or Arabi). In both cases, LyX displays them right-to-left, but these options are both ncompatible with XeTeX because they make other assumptions on how to render the text in the final output. Ideally, I wouldn't have to mark them as in a different language at all - there are no benefits other than the writing direction. I use logical markup and custom styles anyway for these passages, so I'd just like to mark all instances of a given style to display RTL in LyX. Is that possible, or is there some workaround? Philipp Have you tried the Unicode RLM character: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/200f/index.htm -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Force RTL onscreen rendering for paragraph or character style?
On 19 March 2010 22:25, Philiрp Rеichmuth <phil.ipp.reich.m...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > is there a way to force the onscreen rendering for the text contained in a > given character or paragraphy style to be right-to-left? Ideally some kind > of command within the InsetLayout or Style groups in the layout options? > > Background: I use XeTeX to typeset a document in several scripts, including > Arabic. The Arabic-script sections are not in the Arabic language, but in a > variety of other languages. Because my document is left-to-right, they get > displayed on screen in LTR order, which is wrong. I can get them to display > in RTL by setting their language to Arabic (ArabTeX or Arabi). In both > cases, LyX displays them right-to-left, but these options are both > ncompatible with XeTeX because they make other assumptions on how to render > the text in the final output. > > Ideally, I wouldn't have to mark them as in a different language at all - > there are no benefits other than the writing direction. I use logical > markup and custom styles anyway for these passages, so I'd just like to > mark all instances of a given style to display RTL in LyX. Is that > possible, or is there some workaround? > > Philipp > > Have you tried the Unicode RLM character: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/200f/index.htm -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Lyx 2.0
Steve and others, For those using Linux, may I strongly recommend GNU Stow for this purpose? It puts the compiled version in a safe place (ie, away from anthing that your package manager is interested in) and puts symbolic links to this safe place. It is a brilliant system for working outside the normal package management system. http://www.gnu.org/software/stow/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Stow http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/127393 Install stow with your normal package manager. Thanks, Alan, that looks like a great idea. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Lyx 2.0
Steve and others, For those using Linux, may I strongly recommend GNU Stow for this purpose? It puts the compiled version in a safe place (ie, away from anthing that your package manager is interested in) and puts symbolic links to this safe place. It is a brilliant system for working outside the normal package management system. http://www.gnu.org/software/stow/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Stow http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/127393 Install stow with your normal package manager. Thanks, Alan, that looks like a great idea. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Lyx 2.0
> Steve and others, > For those using Linux, may I strongly recommend GNU Stow for this > purpose? It puts the compiled version in a "safe" place (ie, away from > anthing that your package manager is interested in) and puts symbolic > links to this safe place. It is a brilliant system for working outside > the normal package management system. > > http://www.gnu.org/software/stow/ > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Stow > > http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/127393 > > Install stow with your normal package manager. > Thanks, Alan, that looks like a great idea. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Lyx 2.0
Where can I download the current 2.0-testing tarball? I'd love to help test and report issues with BiDi and RTL issues. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Lyx 2.0
On 25 February 2010 12:17, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote: Get the trunk from: svn co svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/trunk lyx-devel Configure with: ./autogen.sh ./configure --with-version-suffix=-svn --enable-build-type=release And the the usual: make sudo make install Thank you Julio Rojas! -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Lyx 2.0
Where can I download the current 2.0-testing tarball? I'd love to help test and report issues with BiDi and RTL issues. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Lyx 2.0
On 25 February 2010 12:17, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote: Get the trunk from: svn co svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/trunk lyx-devel Configure with: ./autogen.sh ./configure --with-version-suffix=-svn --enable-build-type=release And the the usual: make sudo make install Thank you Julio Rojas! -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Lyx 2.0
Where can I download the current 2.0-testing tarball? I'd love to help test and report issues with BiDi and RTL issues. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Lyx 2.0
On 25 February 2010 12:17, Julio Rojas <jcredbe...@gmail.com> wrote: > Get the trunk from: > svn co svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/trunk lyx-devel > > Configure with: > ./autogen.sh > ./configure --with-version-suffix=-svn --enable-build-type=release > > And the the usual: > make > sudo make install > Thank you Julio Rojas! -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail.
Re: Lyx portable
Yes, there are LOTS of live CDs that contain LyX. The OP wants what is called in the Windows world a portable application: The program is installed to a USB mass storage device and can be run directly from that device without writing to the system registry (or minimal registry writing at least). -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il
Re: Lyx portable
Yes, there are LOTS of live CDs that contain LyX. The OP wants what is called in the Windows world a portable application: The program is installed to a USB mass storage device and can be run directly from that device without writing to the system registry (or minimal registry writing at least). -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il
Re: Lyx portable
> Yes, there are LOTS of live CDs that contain LyX. > The OP wants what is called in the Windows world a "portable application": The program is installed to a USB mass storage device and can be run directly from that device without writing to the system registry (or minimal registry writing at least). -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il
Re: LyX is a pain in the butt, but it's the easiest among alternatives
Perhaps that's a reflection of the book's contents? When I was told that Springer would not hire a professional indexer and I had to do it myself, I made it my business to quickly learn how and to do the best darn job of it that could possibly be done. As far as I'm concerned, a technical book is worthless without an outstanding index. After I went through the text several times marking index entries, I then did it again very slowly asking myself what other word or phrase someone could possibly use that would never occur to me (the author and subject matter expert). _That_ took a long time and a lot of effort, but I considered it crucial to the success of the book. I think of index creation as a major part of what I own the purchaser and reader. If I want the reader to think well of my and my published effort then I need to make the information accessible for everyone. So, if I was writing a book about using a desktop computer I'd probably have two entries for the optical media drive: cdrom/dvd drive and cup holder. There's a very useful book on SQLite that has the worst index I've ever seen in a technical reference. I ended up buying the PDF version of the book because I can search that within xpdf for information that's not in the index. The author did not write the index so he's not to blame. Please excuse my completely OT post, but that was very insightful. I love to read, especially coursework (yes, I am a nerd) and I never realized how much effort must go into the index. I simply never thought about that. Thank you for the insight into that technical bit that I've appreciated and cursed at times over the years, without ever really understanding the effort behind it until now. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il
Re: LyX is a pain in the butt, but it's the easiest among alternatives
Perhaps that's a reflection of the book's contents? When I was told that Springer would not hire a professional indexer and I had to do it myself, I made it my business to quickly learn how and to do the best darn job of it that could possibly be done. As far as I'm concerned, a technical book is worthless without an outstanding index. After I went through the text several times marking index entries, I then did it again very slowly asking myself what other word or phrase someone could possibly use that would never occur to me (the author and subject matter expert). _That_ took a long time and a lot of effort, but I considered it crucial to the success of the book. I think of index creation as a major part of what I own the purchaser and reader. If I want the reader to think well of my and my published effort then I need to make the information accessible for everyone. So, if I was writing a book about using a desktop computer I'd probably have two entries for the optical media drive: cdrom/dvd drive and cup holder. There's a very useful book on SQLite that has the worst index I've ever seen in a technical reference. I ended up buying the PDF version of the book because I can search that within xpdf for information that's not in the index. The author did not write the index so he's not to blame. Please excuse my completely OT post, but that was very insightful. I love to read, especially coursework (yes, I am a nerd) and I never realized how much effort must go into the index. I simply never thought about that. Thank you for the insight into that technical bit that I've appreciated and cursed at times over the years, without ever really understanding the effort behind it until now. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il
Re: LyX is a pain in the butt, but it's the easiest among alternatives
> Perhaps that's a reflection of the book's contents? When I was told that > Springer would not hire a professional indexer and I had to do it myself, I > made it my business to quickly learn how and to do the best darn job of it > that could possibly be done. As far as I'm concerned, a technical book is > worthless without an outstanding index. After I went through the text > several times marking index entries, I then did it again very slowly asking > myself what other word or phrase someone could possibly use that would never > occur to me (the author and subject matter expert). _That_ took a long time > and a lot of effort, but I considered it crucial to the success of the book. > > I think of index creation as a major part of what I own the purchaser and > reader. If I want the reader to think well of my and my published effort > then I need to make the information accessible for everyone. So, if I was > writing a book about using a desktop computer I'd probably have two entries > for the optical media drive: "cdrom/dvd drive" and "cup holder." > > There's a very useful book on SQLite that has the worst index I've ever > seen in a technical reference. I ended up buying the PDF version of the book > because I can search that within xpdf for information that's not in the > index. The author did not write the index so he's not to blame. > Please excuse my completely OT post, but that was very insightful. I love to read, especially coursework (yes, I am a nerd) and I never realized how much effort must go into the index. I simply never thought about that. Thank you for the insight into that technical bit that I've appreciated and cursed at times over the years, without ever really understanding the effort behind it until now. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il
Re: Removing languages
Probably more effective to request features (and support for them) at: http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/FeaturePoll Thanks, Cameron, I added the feature. Grep that page for my name to find it, it's at the end of the writing section. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Removing languages
Probably more effective to request features (and support for them) at: http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/FeaturePoll Thanks, Cameron, I added the feature. Grep that page for my name to find it, it's at the end of the writing section. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Removing languages
> Probably more effective to request features (and support for them) at: > > http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/FeaturePoll > Thanks, Cameron, I added the feature. Grep that page for my name to find it, it's at the end of the "writing" section. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: English appearing backwards
Thanks, Gunter. I will put some time into this. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Removing languages
+1 (from an end-user) for a separate _language_ button. So who is going to file an enhancement request to bugzilla.lyx.org? Give me a few minutes... -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Removing languages
Please, explain exactly how you see this.. ..then implementing this would me much faster. Where do you set the languages used in toggling ? Should this be stored in the LyX file ? Vincent I would imagine a button on the toolbar, that would toggle between preconfigured input languages. Somewhere in the options these languages would be configured. Anyone with a language bar on their task bar will be familiar with the concept. In any case, I am not getting the confirmation mail from bugzilla. Who can troubleshoot this? It's not my spam filters. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: English appearing backwards
Thanks, Gunter. I will put some time into this. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Removing languages
+1 (from an end-user) for a separate _language_ button. So who is going to file an enhancement request to bugzilla.lyx.org? Give me a few minutes... -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Removing languages
Please, explain exactly how you see this.. ..then implementing this would me much faster. Where do you set the languages used in toggling ? Should this be stored in the LyX file ? Vincent I would imagine a button on the toolbar, that would toggle between preconfigured input languages. Somewhere in the options these languages would be configured. Anyone with a language bar on their task bar will be familiar with the concept. In any case, I am not getting the confirmation mail from bugzilla. Who can troubleshoot this? It's not my spam filters. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: English appearing backwards
Thanks, Gunter. I will put some time into this. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Removing languages
> >> +1 (from an end-user) for a separate _language_ button. > > So who is going to file an enhancement request to bugzilla.lyx.org? > Give me a few minutes... -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Removing languages
> Please, explain exactly how you see this.. > > ..then implementing this would me much faster. > > Where do you set the languages used in toggling ? > Should this be stored in the LyX file ? > > Vincent > I would imagine a button on the toolbar, that would toggle between preconfigured input languages. Somewhere in the options these languages would be configured. Anyone with a language bar on their task bar will be familiar with the concept. In any case, I am not getting the confirmation mail from bugzilla. Who can troubleshoot this? It's not my spam filters. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Exporting to DOC or RTF
I need to export a document for a MS Office user. I do not see an option to export as DOC or RTF in Lyx 1.6, and PDF will not do because he needs to annotate the document. The best info online that I could find is this tedious document: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2755091postcount=2 Is there not a better way? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Problems importing Tex file
The Fine Manual. It is a common TLA in many mailing lists. OK, and what is a TLA? Three Letter Acronym! I suppose that _that_ is the detail that was not clear to me. I did not know that I need to have LaTeX packages installed in my LaTeX distribution. I'm still not sure what that _means_, but I have enough keywords to google on! A LaTeX distribution is the same as a Linux distribution, but instead of programs like a Linux distro it is a compound of packages. I see. Yes. So just open TeXLive and go there to its package manager (and install svjour if it is available there). How it works should be self-explanatory or have a look at its documentation. When svjour is not offered by the package manager, then do what I wrote in my initial mail. Thanks, I think that I can take it from here. Steep learning curves don't frighten me! Thank you for your patience with this noob! What is a noob, another TLA thing? A new user. :) -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Exporting to DOC or RTF
I didn't read that URL, but the best way I find is to export to OpenDocument, open it in OpenOffice.org, fix the right-hand border (at least, I always have to), and save it as a Word .doc file. Thanks. I do not seem to have an option to export to ODT. Must I add something? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Problems importing Tex file
2009/2/23 Guenter Milde mi...@users.berlios.de: On 2009-02-23, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dotan Cohen schrieb: I suppose that _that_ is the detail that was not clear to me. I did not know that I need to have LaTeX packages installed in my LaTeX distribution. I'm still not sure what that _means_, but I have enough keywords to google on! A LaTeX distribution is the same as a Linux distribution, but instead of programs like a Linux distro it is a compound of packages. However, a LaTeX distribution is usually a part of a Linux distribution. Most modern day Linux distribution come with a re-packed TeXLive. Installing a LaTeX-package is easy when you use the package manager of your LaTeX distribution. Under Linux you should preferabely use the package manager of the Linux distribution. As this is a Kubuntu system, should I assume that I am using TeXLive? Yes. So just open TeXLive and go there to its package manager ... While I have a TeXLive based LaTeX installation on my Debian GNU/Linux system, I cannot open TeXLive and the TeXLive package manager is not part of my installation. Under Debian (and I guess under the Debian-based Kubuntu too), I will have to look for svjour with the Debian package manager (apt, aptitude, synaptic, kpackage) or apt-file. However, `apt-file find svjour` returned only: lyx-common: /usr/share/lyx/layouts/svjour.inc texmacs-common: /usr/share/texmacs/TeXmacs/styles/springer/svjour.ts I was provided with a LaTeX Macro Package, with this content: $ ls LaTeX_macro_package/pub/tex/latex/svjour3/global/ history.txt svglov3.clo template.tex usrguid3.pdf readme.txt svjour3.cls usrguid3.dvi so it comes down to ... ... When svjour is not offered by the package manager, then do what I wrote in my initial mail. Additional question: For latex, it is sufficient to have contributed class and package files (like svjour.cls) in the work direc (pwd). I understand that `lyx --configure` will only consider installed packages and classes, but could tex2lyx be made aware of support files in the pwd? I did try putting the Olga_Lavrenteva.tex file in the same directory as the .cls file, alas it did no good. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Removing languages
How about a separate toggle-language button? In most cases, a document switches between at most 2 languages (native language and English, say). ++votes -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: English appearing backwards
For LyX (or LaTeX) it is important to know in what language you are writing. Not only the directionality, but also font encoding (while LyX uses Unicode by now, LaTeX does not) and hyphenation depend on this. I see, I did not realize that LaTeX does not support unicode. I suppose that it never will, from what I've been reading the past few days it looks like there will be no new features added. In any case, my language does not support hyphenation! Maybe that is the reason that I hate reading hyphenated documents in English. No, from the characters, as stated above. Still, a keyboard switch hotkey could also be programmed to send a language changing command to lyx via the lyxserver. I would very much like to know how to do that. ... I will ask on the Israeli Linux list about Lyx and LaTex in Hebrew. I will file the appropriate bugs. Fine. No answers yet! But I will persist. I remember that one Israeli user reported to use an English keyboard setting on the system level together with the hebrew kmap in LyX, so this might be a starting point... Would you happen to know his name, email address, or a text snippet that I could google to find his post? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Exporting to DOC or RTF
I need to export a document for a MS Office user. I do not see an option to export as DOC or RTF in Lyx 1.6, and PDF will not do because he needs to annotate the document. The best info online that I could find is this tedious document: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2755091postcount=2 Is there not a better way? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Problems importing Tex file
The Fine Manual. It is a common TLA in many mailing lists. OK, and what is a TLA? Three Letter Acronym! I suppose that _that_ is the detail that was not clear to me. I did not know that I need to have LaTeX packages installed in my LaTeX distribution. I'm still not sure what that _means_, but I have enough keywords to google on! A LaTeX distribution is the same as a Linux distribution, but instead of programs like a Linux distro it is a compound of packages. I see. Yes. So just open TeXLive and go there to its package manager (and install svjour if it is available there). How it works should be self-explanatory or have a look at its documentation. When svjour is not offered by the package manager, then do what I wrote in my initial mail. Thanks, I think that I can take it from here. Steep learning curves don't frighten me! Thank you for your patience with this noob! What is a noob, another TLA thing? A new user. :) -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Exporting to DOC or RTF
I didn't read that URL, but the best way I find is to export to OpenDocument, open it in OpenOffice.org, fix the right-hand border (at least, I always have to), and save it as a Word .doc file. Thanks. I do not seem to have an option to export to ODT. Must I add something? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Problems importing Tex file
2009/2/23 Guenter Milde mi...@users.berlios.de: On 2009-02-23, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dotan Cohen schrieb: I suppose that _that_ is the detail that was not clear to me. I did not know that I need to have LaTeX packages installed in my LaTeX distribution. I'm still not sure what that _means_, but I have enough keywords to google on! A LaTeX distribution is the same as a Linux distribution, but instead of programs like a Linux distro it is a compound of packages. However, a LaTeX distribution is usually a part of a Linux distribution. Most modern day Linux distribution come with a re-packed TeXLive. Installing a LaTeX-package is easy when you use the package manager of your LaTeX distribution. Under Linux you should preferabely use the package manager of the Linux distribution. As this is a Kubuntu system, should I assume that I am using TeXLive? Yes. So just open TeXLive and go there to its package manager ... While I have a TeXLive based LaTeX installation on my Debian GNU/Linux system, I cannot open TeXLive and the TeXLive package manager is not part of my installation. Under Debian (and I guess under the Debian-based Kubuntu too), I will have to look for svjour with the Debian package manager (apt, aptitude, synaptic, kpackage) or apt-file. However, `apt-file find svjour` returned only: lyx-common: /usr/share/lyx/layouts/svjour.inc texmacs-common: /usr/share/texmacs/TeXmacs/styles/springer/svjour.ts I was provided with a LaTeX Macro Package, with this content: $ ls LaTeX_macro_package/pub/tex/latex/svjour3/global/ history.txt svglov3.clo template.tex usrguid3.pdf readme.txt svjour3.cls usrguid3.dvi so it comes down to ... ... When svjour is not offered by the package manager, then do what I wrote in my initial mail. Additional question: For latex, it is sufficient to have contributed class and package files (like svjour.cls) in the work direc (pwd). I understand that `lyx --configure` will only consider installed packages and classes, but could tex2lyx be made aware of support files in the pwd? I did try putting the Olga_Lavrenteva.tex file in the same directory as the .cls file, alas it did no good. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Removing languages
How about a separate toggle-language button? In most cases, a document switches between at most 2 languages (native language and English, say). ++votes -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: English appearing backwards
For LyX (or LaTeX) it is important to know in what language you are writing. Not only the directionality, but also font encoding (while LyX uses Unicode by now, LaTeX does not) and hyphenation depend on this. I see, I did not realize that LaTeX does not support unicode. I suppose that it never will, from what I've been reading the past few days it looks like there will be no new features added. In any case, my language does not support hyphenation! Maybe that is the reason that I hate reading hyphenated documents in English. No, from the characters, as stated above. Still, a keyboard switch hotkey could also be programmed to send a language changing command to lyx via the lyxserver. I would very much like to know how to do that. ... I will ask on the Israeli Linux list about Lyx and LaTex in Hebrew. I will file the appropriate bugs. Fine. No answers yet! But I will persist. I remember that one Israeli user reported to use an English keyboard setting on the system level together with the hebrew kmap in LyX, so this might be a starting point... Would you happen to know his name, email address, or a text snippet that I could google to find his post? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Exporting to DOC or RTF
I need to export a document for a MS Office user. I do not see an option to export as DOC or RTF in Lyx 1.6, and PDF will not do because he needs to annotate the document. The best info online that I could find is this tedious document: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2755091=2 Is there not a better way? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Problems importing Tex file
>> The Fine Manual. It is a common TLA in many mailing lists. > > OK, and what is a TLA? > Three Letter Acronym! >> I suppose that _that_ is the detail that was not clear to me. I did >> not know that I need to have LaTeX packages installed in my LaTeX >> distribution. I'm still not sure what that _means_, but I have enough >> keywords to google on! > > A LaTeX distribution is the same as a Linux distribution, but instead of > programs like a Linux distro it is a compound of packages. > I see. > Yes. So just open TeXLive and go there to its package manager (and install > svjour if it is available there). How it works should be self-explanatory or > have a look at its documentation. When svjour is not offered by the package > manager, then do what I wrote in my initial mail. > Thanks, I think that I can take it from here. Steep learning curves don't frighten me! >> Thank you for your patience with this noob! > > What is a noob, another TLA thing? A new user. :) -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Exporting to DOC or RTF
> I didn't read that URL, but the best way I find is to export to > OpenDocument, open it in OpenOffice.org, fix the right-hand border (at > least, I always have to), and save it as a Word .doc file. > Thanks. I do not seem to have an option to export to ODT. Must I add something? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Problems importing Tex file
2009/2/23 Guenter Milde <mi...@users.berlios.de>: > On 2009-02-23, Uwe Stöhr wrote: >> Dotan Cohen schrieb: > >>> I suppose that _that_ is the detail that was not clear to me. I did >>> not know that I need to have LaTeX packages installed in my LaTeX >>> distribution. I'm still not sure what that _means_, but I have enough >>> keywords to google on! > >> A LaTeX distribution is the same as a Linux distribution, but instead >> of programs like a Linux distro it is a compound of packages. > > However, a LaTeX distribution is usually a part of a Linux distribution. > Most modern day Linux distribution come with a re-packed TeXLive. > >>>> Installing a LaTeX-package is easy when you use the package manager >>>> of your LaTeX distribution. > > Under Linux you should preferabely use the package manager of the > Linux distribution. > >>> As this is a Kubuntu system, should I assume that I am using TeXLive? > >> Yes. So just open TeXLive and go there to its package manager ... > > While I have a TeXLive based LaTeX installation on my Debian > GNU/Linux system, I cannot "open TeXLive" and the TeXLive package > manager is not part of my installation. > > Under Debian (and I guess under the Debian-based Kubuntu too), > I will have to look for svjour with the Debian package manager (apt, > aptitude, synaptic, kpackage) or apt-file. > > However, `apt-file find svjour` returned only: > > lyx-common: /usr/share/lyx/layouts/svjour.inc > texmacs-common: /usr/share/texmacs/TeXmacs/styles/springer/svjour.ts > I was provided with a LaTeX Macro Package, with this content: $ ls LaTeX_macro_package/pub/tex/latex/svjour3/global/ history.txt svglov3.clo template.tex usrguid3.pdf readme.txt svjour3.cls usrguid3.dvi > so it comes down to ... > >> ... When svjour is not offered by the package manager, then do what I >> wrote in my initial mail. > > Additional question: For latex, it is sufficient to have contributed > class and package files (like svjour.cls) in the work direc (pwd). > I understand that `lyx --configure` will only consider installed packages and > classes, but could tex2lyx be made aware of "support files" in the pwd? > I did try putting the Olga_Lavrenteva.tex file in the same directory as the .cls file, alas it did no good. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Removing languages
> How about a separate toggle-language button? In most cases, a document > switches between at most 2 languages (native language and English, say). > ++votes -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: English appearing backwards
> For LyX (or LaTeX) it is important to know in what language you are > writing. Not only the directionality, but also font encoding (while LyX > uses Unicode by now, LaTeX does not) and hyphenation depend on this. > I see, I did not realize that LaTeX does not support unicode. I suppose that it never will, from what I've been reading the past few days it looks like there will be no new features added. In any case, my language does not support hyphenation! Maybe that is the reason that I hate reading hyphenated documents in English. >> No, from the characters, as stated above. > > Still, a keyboard switch "hotkey" could also be programmed to send a > language changing command to lyx via the lyxserver. > I would very much like to know how to do that. >> ... I will ask on the Israeli Linux list about Lyx and LaTex in Hebrew. >> I will file the appropriate bugs. > > Fine. > No answers yet! But I will persist. > I remember that one Israeli user reported to use an English keyboard > setting on the system level together with the hebrew kmap in LyX, so > this might be a starting point... > Would you happen to know his name, email address, or a text snippet that I could google to find his post? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Removing languages
When I write mixed Hebrew-English documents, I have to select the language for each span of text. There are tens of languages installed, how can I remove the unused languages from the dropdown list? It would be much easier if I could choose from _four_ languages instead of four hunderd. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Removing languages
This is not possible. But why not defining a keyboard shortcut for the language change instead of using the dialog? On http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Hebrew this is for example done. Alternatively to the bind file there, you can define new shortcuts in LyX's preferences dialog under Editing-Shortcuts. In any case, I do not need the languages. Thanks, though I will make the shortcut. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Problems importing Tex file
When I try to import a tex file, I get a messages saying that there was an error running tex2lyx. When I try to run tex2lyx on the file manually I get this error: $ tex2lyx Olga_Lavrenteva.tex Creating file [snip_path]/Olga_Lavrenteva.lyx Ignoring options 'dvips' of package color. Error: Could not find layout file for textclass svjour3. However, in the same directory there exists svjour3.cls, svjour.clo, and template.txt, and I even put a copy of those files in ~/.lyx/layouts as per the tex2lyx manpage. What am I doing wrong? Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Problems importing Tex file
2009/2/22 Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de: Dotan Cohen schrieb: Error: Could not find layout file for textclass svjour3. However, in the same directory there exists svjour3.cls, svjour.clo, and template.txt, and I even put a copy of those files in ~/.lyx/layouts as per the tex2lyx manpage. What am I doing wrong? These files are LaTeX files, so they must be installed to your LaTeX distribution. So copy them to an appropriate folder to your LaTeX distribution usually under ~\tex\latex\svjour and then use either - the command line command texhash when your are using TeXLive under Lunix/Mac or - refresh the file name database in MiKTeX's settings program. Finally restart LyX and reconfigure it. regards Uwe Thanks, Uwe. I will go back to TFM as I'm not quite sure what I need to do here. I suppose that I do not understand the difference between tex and latex. Wikipedia says that tex is a typesetting system and that latex is a markup language for it. So .tex files are actually latex markup, no (like an HTML file is SGML markup, no)? There is a lot of material to cover, is there any one concise resource for getting up to speed quickly? I have gone through the wiki, I will start on the Lyx tutorial now: http://www.lyx.org/~jug/lyx/lyxdoc/Tutorial/ -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Problems importing Tex file
Thanks, Uwe. I will go back to TFM as I'm not quite sure what I need to do here. What is TFM? Why are you unsure? The Fine Manual. It is a common TLA in many mailing lists. I suppose that I do not understand the difference between tex and latex. But you don't need to know that. All you have to know is that LyX is a frontend to LaTeX, therefore it uses the LaTeX-packages you have installed in your LaTeX distribution. I suppose that _that_ is the detail that was not clear to me. I did not know that I need to have LaTeX packages installed in my LaTeX distribution. I'm still not sure what that _means_, but I have enough keywords to google on! Installing a LaTeX-package is easy when you use the package manager of your LaTeX distribution. What distribution are your using, MiKTeX under Windows or TeXLive under Linux? As this is a Kubuntu system, should I assume that I am using TeXLive? In your case you only have to install the LaTeX-package svjour to your LaTeX-distribution, that's all for now. I see, thanks. I now know the what to do, I will google for the how to do. Thank you for your patience with this noob! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Removing languages
When I write mixed Hebrew-English documents, I have to select the language for each span of text. There are tens of languages installed, how can I remove the unused languages from the dropdown list? It would be much easier if I could choose from _four_ languages instead of four hunderd. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Removing languages
This is not possible. But why not defining a keyboard shortcut for the language change instead of using the dialog? On http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Hebrew this is for example done. Alternatively to the bind file there, you can define new shortcuts in LyX's preferences dialog under Editing-Shortcuts. In any case, I do not need the languages. Thanks, though I will make the shortcut. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Problems importing Tex file
When I try to import a tex file, I get a messages saying that there was an error running tex2lyx. When I try to run tex2lyx on the file manually I get this error: $ tex2lyx Olga_Lavrenteva.tex Creating file [snip_path]/Olga_Lavrenteva.lyx Ignoring options 'dvips' of package color. Error: Could not find layout file for textclass svjour3. However, in the same directory there exists svjour3.cls, svjour.clo, and template.txt, and I even put a copy of those files in ~/.lyx/layouts as per the tex2lyx manpage. What am I doing wrong? Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Problems importing Tex file
2009/2/22 Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de: Dotan Cohen schrieb: Error: Could not find layout file for textclass svjour3. However, in the same directory there exists svjour3.cls, svjour.clo, and template.txt, and I even put a copy of those files in ~/.lyx/layouts as per the tex2lyx manpage. What am I doing wrong? These files are LaTeX files, so they must be installed to your LaTeX distribution. So copy them to an appropriate folder to your LaTeX distribution usually under ~\tex\latex\svjour and then use either - the command line command texhash when your are using TeXLive under Lunix/Mac or - refresh the file name database in MiKTeX's settings program. Finally restart LyX and reconfigure it. regards Uwe Thanks, Uwe. I will go back to TFM as I'm not quite sure what I need to do here. I suppose that I do not understand the difference between tex and latex. Wikipedia says that tex is a typesetting system and that latex is a markup language for it. So .tex files are actually latex markup, no (like an HTML file is SGML markup, no)? There is a lot of material to cover, is there any one concise resource for getting up to speed quickly? I have gone through the wiki, I will start on the Lyx tutorial now: http://www.lyx.org/~jug/lyx/lyxdoc/Tutorial/ -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Problems importing Tex file
Thanks, Uwe. I will go back to TFM as I'm not quite sure what I need to do here. What is TFM? Why are you unsure? The Fine Manual. It is a common TLA in many mailing lists. I suppose that I do not understand the difference between tex and latex. But you don't need to know that. All you have to know is that LyX is a frontend to LaTeX, therefore it uses the LaTeX-packages you have installed in your LaTeX distribution. I suppose that _that_ is the detail that was not clear to me. I did not know that I need to have LaTeX packages installed in my LaTeX distribution. I'm still not sure what that _means_, but I have enough keywords to google on! Installing a LaTeX-package is easy when you use the package manager of your LaTeX distribution. What distribution are your using, MiKTeX under Windows or TeXLive under Linux? As this is a Kubuntu system, should I assume that I am using TeXLive? In your case you only have to install the LaTeX-package svjour to your LaTeX-distribution, that's all for now. I see, thanks. I now know the what to do, I will google for the how to do. Thank you for your patience with this noob! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Removing languages
When I write mixed Hebrew-English documents, I have to select the language for each span of text. There are tens of languages installed, how can I remove the unused languages from the dropdown list? It would be much easier if I could choose from _four_ languages instead of four hunderd. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Removing languages
> This is not possible. But why not defining a keyboard shortcut for the > language change instead of using the dialog? > On http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Hebrew this is for example done. > Alternatively to the bind file there, you can define new shortcuts in LyX's > preferences dialog under Editing->Shortcuts. > In any case, I do not need the languages. Thanks, though I will make the shortcut. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Problems importing Tex file
When I try to import a tex file, I get a messages saying that there was an error running tex2lyx. When I try to run tex2lyx on the file manually I get this error: $ tex2lyx Olga_Lavrenteva.tex Creating file [snip_path]/Olga_Lavrenteva.lyx Ignoring options 'dvips' of package color. Error: Could not find layout file for textclass "svjour3". However, in the same directory there exists svjour3.cls, svjour.clo, and template.txt, and I even put a copy of those files in ~/.lyx/layouts as per the tex2lyx manpage. What am I doing wrong? Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Problems importing Tex file
2009/2/22 Uwe Stöhr <uwesto...@web.de>: > Dotan Cohen schrieb: > >> Error: Could not find layout file for textclass "svjour3". >> >> However, in the same directory there exists svjour3.cls, svjour.clo, >> and template.txt, and I even put a copy of those files in >> ~/.lyx/layouts as per the tex2lyx manpage. What am I doing wrong? > > These files are LaTeX files, so they must be installed to your LaTeX > distribution. So copy them to an appropriate folder to your LaTeX > distribution usually under ~\tex\latex\svjour and then use either > - the command line command "texhash" when your are using TeXLive under > Lunix/Mac > or > - refresh the file name database in MiKTeX's settings program. > Finally restart LyX and reconfigure it. > > regards Uwe > Thanks, Uwe. I will go back to TFM as I'm not quite sure what I need to do here. I suppose that I do not understand the difference between tex and latex. Wikipedia says that tex is a typesetting system and that latex is a markup language for it. So .tex files are actually latex markup, no (like an HTML file is SGML markup, no)? There is a lot of material to cover, is there any one concise resource for getting up to speed quickly? I have gone through the wiki, I will start on the Lyx tutorial now: http://www.lyx.org/~jug/lyx/lyxdoc/Tutorial/ -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Problems importing Tex file
>> Thanks, Uwe. I will go back to TFM as I'm not quite sure what I need >> to do here. > > What is TFM? Why are you unsure? > The Fine Manual. It is a common TLA in many mailing lists. >> I suppose that I do not understand the difference between >> tex and latex. > > But you don't need to know that. All you have to know is that LyX is a > frontend to LaTeX, therefore it uses the LaTeX-packages you have installed > in your LaTeX distribution. I suppose that _that_ is the detail that was not clear to me. I did not know that I need to have LaTeX packages installed in my LaTeX distribution. I'm still not sure what that _means_, but I have enough keywords to google on! > Installing a LaTeX-package is easy when you use > the package manager of your LaTeX distribution. What distribution are your > using, MiKTeX under Windows or TeXLive under Linux? As this is a Kubuntu system, should I assume that I am using TeXLive? > In your case you only have to install the LaTeX-package "svjour" to your > LaTeX-distribution, that's all for now. > I see, thanks. I now know the "what" to do, I will google for the "how" to do. Thank you for your patience with this noob! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: English appearing backwards
Then this is a bug. Report it at bugzilla.lyx.org with a minimal example and context-information (KDE or Gnome or ...). I will collect more information then file bugs. You can define keybindings to language english and language ... to speed things up. Thanks, I will look into that. This seems to be related to the recent English in Greek threads. I will read them. How should this be done? How do you change languages in every other application? I have several different keyboard layouts defined. I activate the different keyboard layout and just start typing. The application handles directionality. Many applications have directionality issues, but I've never come across one in Linux that displayed text backwards (in Hebrew or English). From the character? - How could LyX guess whether I write German vs. English, or Russian vs. Bulgarian or Hebrew vs. Jiddish? Here is where I think that the term language is important to _not_ be used. It doesn't matter in what language I'm writing, but different alphabets have different directionality. There is a whole law (study) of the field that is usually called bidi. See this document (pay attention only to the logical ordering, the visual ordering is outdated): http://people.w3.org/rishida/scripts/bidi/ From the system setting? - Write a script that does both, changing the system setting and passing language ... to the LyXserver. No, from the characters, as stated above. Lyx is Qt based, and I know that Qt handles this internally. Could it be that Lyx is trying to handle the directionally, then Qt does it too, and therefore they cancel each other out? Like encoding rot13 twice? LyX needs to take this into consideration twice: for screen output (using QT) and for LaTeX export (LaTeX, of course is QT-agnostic). There might be room for improvement. I see, thanks Günter. I will ask on the Israeli Linux list about Lyx and LaTex in Hebrew. I will file the appropriate bugs. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: English appearing backwards
According to Wikipedia, Lyx has substantial support for bidirectional writing. So the problem is most likely with me, not with Lyx. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: English appearing backwards
I'm not sure if this helps, but a colleague of mine had this to say when I spoke to him about the issue: Knuth actually wrote a version of TeX called TeX-XeT in order to support bidirectional printing. Back in 1987 he and Pierre MacKay wrote an article about the problem, Mixing right-to-left texts with left-to-right texts; it appears in Knuth's collection _Digital typography_. Their typeset examples are a sight to behold, because of course Knuth wanted to make the bidirectionality work correctly with line breaks, hyphenation, and so on, and also wanted to accommodate both the interests of people who use right-to-left text occasionally in a left-to-right typesetting environment and those of people who use left-to-right text occasionally in a right-to-left environment. And arbitrarily many levels of nesting, right-to-left inside left-to-right inside right-to-left inside left-to-right, etc. Thanks, David. Althoug TeX-XeT does not seem to be supported anymore, searching for it got me some pages that will help me. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: English appearing backwards
Then this is a bug. Report it at bugzilla.lyx.org with a minimal example and context-information (KDE or Gnome or ...). I will collect more information then file bugs. You can define keybindings to language english and language ... to speed things up. Thanks, I will look into that. This seems to be related to the recent English in Greek threads. I will read them. How should this be done? How do you change languages in every other application? I have several different keyboard layouts defined. I activate the different keyboard layout and just start typing. The application handles directionality. Many applications have directionality issues, but I've never come across one in Linux that displayed text backwards (in Hebrew or English). From the character? - How could LyX guess whether I write German vs. English, or Russian vs. Bulgarian or Hebrew vs. Jiddish? Here is where I think that the term language is important to _not_ be used. It doesn't matter in what language I'm writing, but different alphabets have different directionality. There is a whole law (study) of the field that is usually called bidi. See this document (pay attention only to the logical ordering, the visual ordering is outdated): http://people.w3.org/rishida/scripts/bidi/ From the system setting? - Write a script that does both, changing the system setting and passing language ... to the LyXserver. No, from the characters, as stated above. Lyx is Qt based, and I know that Qt handles this internally. Could it be that Lyx is trying to handle the directionally, then Qt does it too, and therefore they cancel each other out? Like encoding rot13 twice? LyX needs to take this into consideration twice: for screen output (using QT) and for LaTeX export (LaTeX, of course is QT-agnostic). There might be room for improvement. I see, thanks Günter. I will ask on the Israeli Linux list about Lyx and LaTex in Hebrew. I will file the appropriate bugs. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: English appearing backwards
According to Wikipedia, Lyx has substantial support for bidirectional writing. So the problem is most likely with me, not with Lyx. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: English appearing backwards
I'm not sure if this helps, but a colleague of mine had this to say when I spoke to him about the issue: Knuth actually wrote a version of TeX called TeX-XeT in order to support bidirectional printing. Back in 1987 he and Pierre MacKay wrote an article about the problem, Mixing right-to-left texts with left-to-right texts; it appears in Knuth's collection _Digital typography_. Their typeset examples are a sight to behold, because of course Knuth wanted to make the bidirectionality work correctly with line breaks, hyphenation, and so on, and also wanted to accommodate both the interests of people who use right-to-left text occasionally in a left-to-right typesetting environment and those of people who use left-to-right text occasionally in a right-to-left environment. And arbitrarily many levels of nesting, right-to-left inside left-to-right inside right-to-left inside left-to-right, etc. Thanks, David. Althoug TeX-XeT does not seem to be supported anymore, searching for it got me some pages that will help me. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: English appearing backwards
> Then this is a bug. Report it at bugzilla.lyx.org with a minimal example and > context-information (KDE or Gnome or ...). > I will collect more information then file bugs. > You can define keybindings to "language english" and "language ..." to > speed things up. > Thanks, I will look into that. > This seems to be related to the recent "English in Greek" threads. > I will read them. > How should this be done? How do you change languages in "every other > application"? > I have several different keyboard layouts defined. I activate the different keyboard layout and just start typing. The application handles directionality. Many applications have directionality issues, but I've never come across one in Linux that displayed text backwards (in Hebrew or English). > From the character? > -> How could LyX guess whether I write German vs. English, or Russian vs. > Bulgarian or Hebrew vs. Jiddish? > Here is where I think that the term "language" is important to _not_ be used. It doesn't matter in what language I'm writing, but different alphabets have different directionality. There is a whole law (study) of the field that is usually called bidi. See this document (pay attention only to the "logical" ordering, the "visual" ordering is outdated): http://people.w3.org/rishida/scripts/bidi/ > From the system setting? > -> Write a script that does both, changing the system setting and passing > language ... to the LyXserver. > No, from the characters, as stated above. >> Lyx is Qt based, and I know that Qt handles this internally. Could it >> be that Lyx is trying to handle the directionally, then Qt does it too, >> and therefore they cancel each other out? Like encoding rot13 twice? > > LyX needs to take this into consideration twice: for screen output > (using QT) and for LaTeX export (LaTeX, of course is QT-agnostic). > There might be room for improvement. > I see, thanks Günter. I will ask on the Israeli Linux list about Lyx and LaTex in Hebrew. I will file the appropriate bugs. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: English appearing backwards
According to Wikipedia, Lyx "has substantial support for bidirectional writing". So the problem is most likely with me, not with Lyx. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: English appearing backwards
> I'm not sure if this helps, but a colleague of mine had this to say when I > spoke to him about the issue: > > "Knuth actually wrote a version of TeX called TeX-XeT in order to > support bidirectional printing. Back in 1987 he and Pierre MacKay wrote an > article about the problem, "Mixing right-to-left texts with left-to-right > texts"; it appears in Knuth's collection _Digital typography_. Their > typeset examples are a sight to behold, because of course Knuth wanted to > make the bidirectionality work correctly with line breaks, hyphenation, and > so on, and also wanted to accommodate both the interests of people who use > right-to-left text occasionally in a left-to-right typesetting environment > and those of people who use left-to-right text occasionally in a > right-to-left environment. And arbitrarily many levels of nesting, > right-to-left inside left-to-right inside right-to-left inside > left-to-right, etc." > Thanks, David. Althoug TeX-XeT does not seem to be supported anymore, searching for it got me some pages that will help me. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: How to write degree symbol ° ?
I have big probems for entering a degree symbol as in 'cos 30°'. If entered as
such from the keyboard in TeX, it's not accepted.
What, exactly, are you entering?
If entered in Lyx, it's
represented as '\lyxmathsym{\textdegree}', but when it comes to producing
output an error is the result.
What error?
--
Dotan Cohen
http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
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